Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #111 - A New Trial for Alex Murdaugh? Good Luck with That! + Worst Is Yet to Come for Weldon Boyd’s Co-Shooter

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell were pleasantly surprised last week to find out how much power the South Carolina Attorney General’s Office’s packed with its punch back to Alex Murdaugh and his increasingly embarrassing attempts at getting his murder conviction overturned.  Six attorneys at the AG’s office — including Creighton “BCE” Waters himself — compiled a nearly flawless 182-page response to Dick Harpootlian and Jim Griffith’s arguments in favor of an appeal. Let’s just say, BCE and Co. ate and left no crumbs.🍪 But! It's high time for SC Attorney General Alan Wilson to start focusing on getting justice in other cases … like Alex’s unindicted co-conspirators, bringing the Michael Colucci case in front of the grand jury again and re-examining the need for criminal charges in Scott Spivey’s killing.  PLUS (27:46) we continue our look into North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Boyd’s co-shooter Bradley Williams and things aren’t looking good for him...Let’s dive in! 🥽🦈Episode References Therapist Alexandra Armas Tuck’s Website 🌐 Sunlight on Scott Spivey Spotify Playlist 🎧 Horry County Officer Writes “ACT LIKE A VICTIM - CAMERA” on Note to Homicide Suspects 🎞️ Premium ResourcesAlex Murdaugh’s Initial Brief of Appellant - Dec 10, 2024 📄 State of SC’s Initial Brief of Respondent - Aug 8, 2025 📄 Justice Toal’s Order Denying Alex Murdaugh a New Trial - April 4, 2024 📄 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ Learn more about Premium Membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get bonus episodes like our Premium Dives, Corruption Watchlist, Girl Talk, and Soundbites that help you Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight ⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Members ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠also get access to ad-free listening, searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunasharkmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ all in one place. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Here's a link to some of our favorite things: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   |   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Impact site located, entering spacecraft. Contact, but identified life form. Containment. We were safer in space. FX's Alien Earth, an original series now streaming on Disney Plus. Sign up today. 18 plus subscription required TNCs apply. Hey there, E.B. here. Your faithful Cup of Justice co-host. I am so excited to tell you about my new book, Anything But Bland. In this memoir, I share stories about my childhood, marked by bullying, my father's job loss, and the indomitable spirit that propelled me into the law and ultimately international recognition during the Alex Murdole murder trial. I believe in certain life principles that have helped me and helped others achieve success.

From the power of organization and a sense of urgency to the importance of truth, leadership, and resilience. With vivid recollection from challenges and triumphs framing each chapter, success isn't about luck. It's earned through skill and hard work. Please visit theericblan.com to learn more about the book, Anything But Bland is the manifesto for those seeking triumph over adversity and a guide for anyone aspiring to reach their full potential. I don't know why Alan Wilson is still choosing to protect Weldon Boyd and his co-shooter Bradley Williams, especially considering the major political risk involved. But as our team digs deeper into Bradley Williams in the absurd good old boy treatment that they got from the cops on scene,

we're seeing potential big trouble for old Bradley, especially if he stays on Team Weldon. My name is Mandy Matney. This is True Sunlight, a podcast exposing crime and corruption, previously known as the Murdoch Murders podcast. True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production written with journalist Liz Pharrell. First of all, I want to start this show by wishing a very special fan and friend a happy birthday. Happy birthday! Happy birthday to the amazing Los Angeles-based therapist who is now taking remote clients in South Carolina, Alexandra Armis Tuck. Alexandra reached out to us last summer as we were navigating the dark world of Micah Francis' medical records. Her Instagram message said something like, hey, I'm a licensed therapist and y'all are right.

Nothing that JP is saying about Micah's diagnosis makes any sense, and I am more than happy. happy to look through her health records and tell you what I see. That message started a beautiful friendship. Nothing like bonding over true crime, mental health, and female advocacy. We planned a call last summer and then we started a girl talk that just never ended. I didn't know it at the time just how badly I needed Alexandra in my life. I was still recovering from serious depression from the Murdoch investigation where I lost faith in humanity and I lost my sense of direction and purpose. I had been burned badly by people I thought I trusted for a while. And for a while there, I thought my circle was completely closed, and I started to be okay with that.

I mean, I had nine bridesmaids. I sadly thought I hit the limit of besties. Alexandra taught me that friendship circles should never close, because as your life changes, you need different people to help carry you through. As a superfan, Alexandra knew the ends and outs of my job and understood the emotions I had been dealing with over the past few years with online harassment and abuse and threats. And even though she never treated me for quote-unquote therapy, because that would be unethical and unethical people are not fans of this show. Her clinical knowledge of navigating mental health and her ability

to listen and encourage and guide me as a friend through this crazy life I've had in this last year, well, that has been instrumental in my depression recovery. It's been game-changing. So Alexandra, my favorite Leo, my best hype girl. My super, super, super fan, thank you for giving me the life-changing gift of your friendship this year. Thank you for proving to me that there are so many amazing, trustworthy women living to lift each other up only with the best of intentions. And to everyone out there listening to this, let this be a lesson to always keep yourself open to new friendships even after you've been burned. And because I'm a businesswoman, and a hype girl, anyone in California or South Carolina looking for a remote therapist who was

just as upset about all of the things that we talk about on COJ and True Sunlight, check out Alexandra's website at www. www. alexandra armas-A-R-M-A-R-M-A-S therapy.com linked in description. Again, this is not an advertisement. I just really, really love supporting my friends. And in more good news, we should have a big announcement coming soon about the Hulu show this fall. David and I are so excited and grateful to prepare for the biggest fall that we've ever had. And you know what I realized the other day? This project has helped me heal in so many ways. The word Murdoch no longer puts a hole in my stomach.

I am proud of the six years of work we have done on this case. and we are wrapping it up with the best bookend possible, with an Emmy-worthy show made by some of the best artist in the business. That said, Elyke Murdoch was back in the news this week. And look at me, I actually want to talk about it. Let's get into it. On Friday, the state of South Carolina responded to Ehrlich Murdoch's defense appeal with a whopping 182-page filing compiled by six attorneys

at the South Carolina Attorney General's Office, including Attorney General Alan Wilson and Creighton, Big Creighton Energy Waters. The filing was perhaps the most impressive, succinct document laying out all of the evidence pointing to Ehrlich Murdoch's guilt while quashing each of the egregious claims made by Dick Harputian and Jim Griffin in an attempt to convince the public that Ehrlich did not get a fair trial. We discussed this filing at length on this week. week's Cup of Justice, so I'll be brief with our analysis and give you some quick takeaways. Takeaway number one, there is an overwhelming amount of evidence proving that Ehrlich Murdoch is

guilty of the murders, and anyone who says otherwise is doing it for the clicks. In the filing, the state retold the story of the gathering storm coming for Elyke Murdoch up until the moment that Maggie and Paul were killed. Essentially, they said what we have been saying for years. Three people went down to the kennels on the night of June 7, 2021. Two of them died and one of them lied about being there. Not only did Ehrlich Murdoch lie to police multiple times about where he was the moment Maggie and Paul were shot to death at Moselle, but he lied to just about everyone in his life as he was stealing millions of dollars from clients, taking illegal drugs and facing increasing pressure from Maggie and Paul in the boat crash lawsuit.

I'm not sure anyone could read all of the evidence pointing to Ehrlich in this legal filing and pointing out the significant events in his life, like the fact that he was confronted for stealing money from the law firm that day on June 7 by Jeannie Secondger to come to the conclusion that anyone besides Ehrlich Murdoch did this. I know y'all know all. all the details of the Murdoch murders like the back of your hand. But just in case you need a few talking points for the next, what if Elyke Murdoch is innocent, idiot that you run into at a cocktail party? Here are a few indisputable facts that the state highlighted in this massive legal filing.

I'll have David read this for dramatic emphasis. 1. Alec lured both Maggie and Paul to the property where they were killed on June 7, 2021. 2. Maggie and Paul's phones locked for the last time at 8.49 p.m. while they were with Alec Murdoch. 3. Alec, a prolific phone user, did not use his phone from 809 to 902 p.m. The hour leading up to Maggie and Paul's death. then suddenly began recording a flurry of uncharacteristic movement after their murders.

Four, neither Maggie nor Paul showed any defensive wounds, meaning they were familiar with their killer and were not expecting to be shot. Five, Alec changed his shoes three times on the evening of the murders. He had a different pair of shoes before the murders when he took a video with Paul of the trees, from when he went to Almeida, then changed his shoes again before police arrived on scene, and police never found the clothes Alec wore on the night of the murders before calling 911. 6. Oh, and he pressured both his housekeeper Blanca and his mother's housekeeper Ms. Shelly to lie about his clothing and whereabouts on the night of the murders.

7. The weapons used in the murders were connected by ballistics as being owned. by the Murdoch family. The weapons were never found. And Alec lied by first telling police, Paul never got a replacement rifle after his was stolen. Also, as the AG's office points out in this response, Eleg's defense team has yet to identify any legitimate suspects or theories or even remotely point to anyone else besides Elek. They just keep making flimsy arguments that he didn't get a fair trial. Again, for someone to believe that anyone but Ellic Murdoch did this, they would have to believe that the killer knew Alex lured Maggie and Paul to Moselle on the night of June 7th, where neither of them were living at the time, and that while Ellick happened to be at the

exact same location, someone snuck onto their property, stole the family's weapons, and shot Maggie and Paul to death for no apparent reason. Right after that happened, one would have to believe that Elyc innocently skipped going to the kennels to tell Maggie he was leaving, as he normally would, then sped to his elderly mother's house, which he rarely visited, according to Michelley, at 9 p.m. while frantically making phone calls just to see her for a few minutes, and then sped back after having changed his clothes twice for some reason, all the while. Elick was facing a mountain of financial and legal pressure as his criminal empire was on the verge of being exposed. Yeah, right. Takeaway number two. Once again, after reading the 182 page

document, I am angry all over again at how much the state failed to prosecute Ellick's potential co-conspirators. The document mentioned that Ehrlich was a badge-carrying volunteer solicitor at the same office that was initially in charge of the Murdoch murder's investigation. Duffy Stone's 14th Circuit Solicitor's office. Of course, this isn't mentioned in the filing, but Duffy Stone was in charge of the case for two months before he finally recused himself in August. To this day, no one of authority has publicly questioned Duffy for his inappropriate involvement in the case, as he should have recused himself from day one. As a reminder, he recused himself from day one of the boat crash.

Why wouldn't Duffy immediately recuse himself from a case where the number one suspect worked for his office? We cannot overlook Duffy's influence on the Murdoch case whenever anyone from Team Elyc tries to claim that there is a lack of physical evidence proving Eleg's guilt. It's exactly like when Alan Wilson tried to claim last week that the evidence of the Spivey case proves that Weldon Boyd stood his ground. The evidence should be viewed from a scope of corruption. The missing evidence tells a bigger story in those cases, and any good prosecutor would know that. Back to Murdoch, though. The legal filing actually reminded me

of how much missing evidence actually pointed to Ehrlich's guilt and points toward co-conspirators. There is an evidence-backed theory that Ehrlich hid the murder weapons at his parents, parents' house on the night of the murders. Authorities did not search Almeda for months. Why is that? Did someone with authority tell them that they would not search there?

Did a judge or a solicitor ever stop SLED from searching there in those months after the murders? In fact, Slet didn't search Eleg's parents' house where Eleg claimed that he had been on the night of the murders until September 2021, until after after after after after after. after Duffy Stone recused himself. Remember Randolph Murdoch specifically handed the solicitor seat to Duffy Stone decades ago? These men go way back. It is not out of the question to imagine a scenario where Duffy Stone could have prevented Randolph's house from being searched at that time. And man, it would be really, really nice if we had an attorney general with a spine who cared to ask questions about that. Anyways, the filing also mentions that Duffy's number two guy, Dylan Hightower,

took Eleg's phone after the murders, but, quote, did not perform a full extraction at that time due to how long it would have taken because he felt pressure to get Appellate's phone back to him as quickly as possible based on Appellate's father's ongoing health issues. Huh, put plainly, the solicitor's office gave their co-worker Ehrlich the opportunity to delete evidence from his phone because they felt, quote-unquote, pressure to give Elyke special treatment and give his phone back before they completed an extraction. Who was pressuring them? Because they are the ones who should have been applying the pressure at that time.

It's all pathetic. Someone helped Elyke Murdoch hide the guns that night. Why is it that prosecutors have never cared to find out who and how? And for the 100,000th time, we do not believe that Ehrlich Murdoch stole over $10 million with just Corey Fleming and Russell Lafitte helping him. We believe that a lot of people knew and benefited from their silence for years until Ehrlich's mess spilled into their lives. Chris Wilson is mentioned in this brief as being tricked when he agreed to help Ehrlich

issue hundreds of thousands of dollars from a settlement to his name instead of to his firm because Ehrlich wanted to avoid paying the Beach family in the boat crash lawsuit. If Chris Wilson was so easily tricked into doing something he could have been disbarred for, maybe, just maybe, he's not smart enough to be a lawyer. And yes, I'm calling on you, ODC, if you even exist anymore. All of this is so frustrating. And maybe I don't hate the idea of a new Murdoch trial when Alan Wilson leaves office and maybe the state of South Carolina will actually go after the many people involved in Ellick Murdoch's crimes who should be thanking their lucky stars every day that they are not in prison. Huh, who knows?

Takeaway number three. Becky Hill's comments were, quote, fleeting and foolish, which is all you need to know about Becky and the allegations that she influenced the outcome of Ellick's guilty verdict. We're not going to talk about Becky Hill much because Mandy and I are so tired of talking about Becky Hill. We know that Dick and Jim don't have any evidence of Becky influencing the jury because it didn't happen. But they have the illusion that Becky influenced the jury and that's bolstered by all the media attention on Becky Hill and it was sort of legitimized by her arrest. But her arrest is separate from the jury tampering accusation. She was never charged with tampering with that jury. In the words,

of the state, quote, the jury convicted Alec Murdoch because he was obviously guilty. Not because three jurors heard Becky Hills, quote, foolish and fleeting comments about his upcoming testimony. Becky made dumb comments to the jury, but that doesn't change the fact that they all testified under oath that they arrived at their guilty verdicts based on the evidence presented in the courtroom. Becky's comments were foolish and fleeting, period, as the kids say. Takeaway number four. We appreciated the spicy digs by the Attorney General's office in this brief. The AG's office added some sass to this filing, and we want to point it out to you guys.

I'll have David Reed our two favorite parts. The first is about the poor theories presented by the defense as they attempted to point guilt at anyone other than Eleg Murdoch. Appellant had been suggesting the boat wreck was the cause of the murders, and that continued through, throughout trial. With defense counsel eliciting testimony from multiple witnesses about Paul receiving threats, bullying, and other backlash following the boat wreck, all that evidence was used by the defense to suggest the wrong person, perhaps a petite one, had seen all the media coverage about the boat wreck and then killed Maggie and Paul in a calculated act of vigilante violence. In addition to that, the defense advanced other motive theories for the killer.

Amongst them, defense counsel conducted questioning to suggest maybe the killings had been perpetrated by someone from the, quote, Sand Hill Drug Gang, end quote, or the, quote, Cowboys Drug Ring, end quote. Transcript page 3703 to 3704. Furthermore, in closing argument, defense counsel opined to the jury maybe Paul confronted appellant's drug source, which was a, quote, dangerous drug gang. 53. The footnote then added, quote, since no evidence whatsoever was presented to support such a theory of third-party guilt, the prosecutor immediately objected and the trial judge swiftly sustained the objection. Ironically, defense counsel followed that by arguing to the jurors, quote, you have to decide the evidence based on the facts that the state puts

before you, not theories, not inferences, not speculation, but cold, hard facts, end quote. That is in cold, hard truth, perhaps petite killers? L-O-L. I hope that made Dick and Jim get tachycardia, remembering the time they tried to tell the world that two five-foot two-inch people had showed up at Moselle in the middle of nowhere, got lucky that Maggie and Paul were there when they weren't supposed to be, and got lucky that there were weapons to use in this vigilante killing plot that did not include weapons or knowledge of where their targets would be. Our second favorite dash of sass was pointing out that ELEC was still lying to his attorneys in

November 22, after he was charged with murder, about not being at the kennels at the time of the murders. State attorneys pointed to Jim Griffin's absurdly stupid appearance in the HBO documentary, Low Country, where Jim gave a completely false account about where his client was on the night of June 7, 2021. Here's David again reading that spicy piece of legal literature. Further, the state asked if appellant was aware of, quote, national television interview and, quote, given by his defense counsel that again asserted, quote, as late as November 22. Appellant's statement that he was not at the kennels, but in his home, asleep. Appellant responded only that he had limited access to media in jail. The footnote says

The HBO production is available with appropriate streaming service access. In the internet movie database, Mr. Griffin is listed as a star in the miniseries and is featured in three episodes. And the miniseries is identified as airing in November of 2022. Defense counsel would later, in closing,

confirm he was on the special. but denied he was talking about the murder charges. Even so, the fact that appellant's counsel utilized the media to reflect the defense's position could hardly be contested. Defense counsel availed themselves of media during the trial. Defense counsel admitted to a, quote, retweet, end quote, of an article during trial. Judge Newman directed counsel to, quote,

not post or repost anything, end quote. And defense counsel asserted his intention to comply going forward, stating, quote, I will not retweet anything until the trial is over, end quote. I'm dead. Those footnotes kill me. If I were Jim Griffin, I would delete Twitter and I would never say the word retweet ever again because that was so embarrassing for him. Speaking of embarrassing things, the Attorney General's office pointed at a long list of errors the defense made throughout the trial and then afterward in their efforts to get a new trial.

Here are a couple of our favorites. There's the part where Dick and Jim want Ellick's conviction overturned because Justice Jean Toll dare to ask juror 630, aka Jersey, about her affidavit where she swore that the other jurors were pressuring her and that's why she voted guilty for Ellick. Now, that was during the new trial hearing in January 2024. And Jim and Dick say it's against the rules for a judge to ask a juror about what went on during deliberations, which is true. But here's what the state said to that. Ehrlich Murdoch put this very statement into the record. He cannot complain of an alleged error he induced. So like literally, Team Murdoch put that into the atmosphere and used it as a record to support

their claim that he deserved a new trial. And Justice Toll wanted to ascertain whether Jersey was being truthful now on a stand in front of the world, or was she being truthful in her affidavit over the summer. So, as the state is saying, can't blame her for bringing it up. Another good part is where the state pointed out that they were allowed to ask ELEC about his financial crimes, because Jim Griffin had opened the door to it by seeking testimony about ELEC's good character. Here's a passage. It's hell of funny. Quote, the defense's motive theory was that Alec Murdoch, who was seemingly distraught after the killings, was a family-oriented and loving father and husband who had such a great relationship with the victims. It was simply inconceivable he could have committed the murders.

So yeah, the state was right to challenge that and the court made the right decision allowing them to do so. Because, quote, if even a portion of that financial misconduct was ever to, exposed to others, it would have resulted in personal, illegal, and financial ruin for E. E. Homeboy would have gone to prison. Related to that is the part where the state pointed out that Dick and Jim didn't properly preserve the issue of the financial crimes being introduced at the trial for this future possibility of appealing on those grounds. Oh, and one more. There are so many good parts. But the part where the state accused Ehrlich of trying to get the court to create a new rule of constitutional law, quote, just for him, right before telling Ehrlich and his team of

merry attorneys that his case is not unique. And that takes us to our final takeaway of the state's massive response to Ehrlich Murdoch's appeal, that this appeal is costing South Carolina, way too much money, and it's wasting, way too many resources that we cannot afford. More on that after a quick commercial break, and we'll be right back. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to camp IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget.

After all, you're in your small space era. It's time to own it. Shop now at IKEA.ca. Okay, so back to my last takeaway. Fighting this appeal is costing the state of South Carolina way too much money. Like I said before, the filing is a masterpiece full of,

brilliant storytelling, smart legal arguments, and a whole lot of evidence and citations to back up the arguments. It's tough to criticize, even if you're a loud critic of Alan Wilson like I am. But even with all of its brilliance, it still exposes the same problem we have been shouting about on podcasts since 2021, the two legal systems in South Carolina. Most family members of crime victims in South Carolina could only dream of the state giving their case this much time and attention on any trial, let alone on fighting the appeal. Remember, the state of South Carolina spent well over $500,000 on prosecuting Elyke Murdoch, and that number only counts for their work up until the conviction. That was two years ago and several expensive legal battles

ago. Who knows what that number is now? But Eric Bland estimated that this 182 page filing alone will cost the state around $100,000, which is really silly when you think about it. Especially when you remember that this is South Carolina, where we consistently rank in the top 10 worst states for violent crime in the top five worst states for homicide per capita, according to FBI data. When you look at Dick and Jim's grounds for appeal, backed up by legal gibberish, exaggerated claims, and fueled by media that loves Dick clicks. No pun intended. It's extra absurd. It should not cost this much money to uphold a conviction of a man who is clearly guilty and a man who has other convictions that will keep him in prison for the rest of his life.

And every minute that Alan Wilson's attorneys spent on this 182-page filing, they were taking resources away from the other cases piling up in Allen's office that he continues to ignore. And speaking of Alan Wilson, y'all, keep up the noise on social media. He hears it. It's affecting him. And every single comment counts. This man is in the most competitive governor's race our state has seen. seen in over a decade. He needs every single vote and needs to know that he cannot win this race while failing to fix his office's messes in the Kalucci case and the Spivey case. And speaking of the Spivey case, here's Liz with the latest. Okay, let's pick up where we left off with the 2023 Scott Spivey shooting slash Ori County Police Department Corruption case. If you're just joining us in

this story and want to start from the beginning, go to the episode description for the case playlist. There is a lot to catch up on, and it is a wild ride, but a well-worth-it one, especially for those looking for inspiration, motivation, and a map for seeking justice in their own lives. Last week, we talked about the months leading up to September 9th, 2023, the day that North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Boyd and his friend Bradley Williams followed 33-year-old Scott Spivey for miles before shooting him to death. From the start of our coverage on this case, we knew that, less than five hours before Weldon and brother killed Scott, that Weldon's ex-fiancee, who were calling Lily, had returned

the $20,000 engagement ring and $65,000 Toyota Four Runner he had bought for her in the spring of that year. We also knew that Weldon wrongly believed Lily had brought a man with her to return the items, and we knew that shortly before encountering Scott. on Highway 9 in Long, South Carolina, that Weldon had posted both of these items for sale on Facebook. What we didn't know is what all of that might have meant for Weldon at the time. Obviously, duh, we could safely assume that there was some negative emotion attached to that situation given how quickly he put the ring in car up for sale, because that felt like

a nephew to Lily, who, reminder, was just over six months pregnant with Weldon's first child at the time and who he was already suing to establish paternity of her unborn baby and get custody and child support of a baby that hadn't even been born yet? Anyway, this was super important to know because it spoke to the state of Weldon's mind at the time he encountered Scott, meaning was Weldon Boyd already fired up? Was he in lizard brain mode where he was already predisposed to being reactive and feeling threatened and responding aggressively? Was he looking for a fight? The answers seem to be yes,

just from that in-the-moment snapshot of what was happening at the time and just based on knowing those few facts. Last week, though, we shared text messages with you from over the summer of 2023 between Weldon and Lily and between Weldon and Lily's mother

who were calling Ellen. And we shared recordings of phone calls between Weldon and his mom, messages between Weldon and his granny, who is the wisest, and presumably the most disappointed grandma on earth, along with text messages between Weldon and other members of his family, all on the day Lily returned the ring and the car.

And what we got from all of that is this. Weldon appears to live in his own skewed version of reality, and when people refuse to play the roles he's assigned to them in his head in this skewed version of reality of his, or when they push back on the things he believes to be absolutely true and aren't true, Weldon seems to become even more driven to inflict that reality he so very much believes in on others to the point of exhausting them and frustrating them.

But more than that, we learned from those texts and calls that September 9th, 2023, wasn't just the day Weldon got back the engagement ring and car. It wasn't just the day he was annoyed because he thought Lily had brought a man with her when she dropped those items off, which she didn't. She was with her mother and her 16-year-old sister.

September 9th, 2023 was the day that forced Weldon Boyd to accept that this version of reality, his version, could never exist now. Lily would never be with him. The picture perfect happy family life that Weldon seemed so intent on having one that was made for the spotlight of a social media stage was over. And not only over, it never existed. The ring and car being returned to Weldon meant he no longer had leverage over Lily. and his false belief that Lily was involved with other men would have likely registered as further public humiliation for Weldon, in his mind, where he saw himself as the unofficial mayor

of Darlington and Ory County's social media. To Weldon, who seems to put a lot of value on his perception of what the public thinks about him, this was likely seen as a PR crisis. So that is where his head seems to have been on the afternoon of September 9th, 2023. when the plan was to hang out with his friend from home, a guy he had grown up with, Bradley Williams.

We talked a little about Bradley last week, about his seemingly loving relationship with his wife and how when he finally got to Oregon County on that Saturday, Weldon took out some of his irritation on him, telling Bradley that he'd gone to the wrong meetup place. The loving relationship with his wife, Amanda, is important. And we mentioned it last week for a reason, and not just because it's a relationship we can imagine Weldon being envious of.

Which brings me to this. Before we start diving into what we believe the shooting look like from Bradley's perspective, we need to talk about the situation Bradley is currently in and how it could affect his family. Bradley is the one person who might actually have seen everything from start to finish. And obviously, from what we can tell on the videos and in the calls, in the minutes, hours, and days after the shooting, Bradley was as faithful and loyal to Weldon as Weldon's beloved dog Grady. And Bradley may still be that way.

he might still be a willing subscriber to Weldon's version of reality. Despite numerous examples on the record that point to the inaccuracy of Weldon's version of reality, and despite numerous examples from Bradley that point to that same inaccuracy. So here is a fun question to ponder. Who is paying for Bradley's defense team? Maybe Bradley is. We don't know. But if he isn't, if someone else is footing the bill,

and if that someone is tied to Weldon Boy, then Amanda, your husband is in trouble, girl. If Bradley's defense team is working closely with Weldon's defense team and from where we sit, they seem to be, and if that team is also being funded by someone tied to Weldon's camp, again, just a hypothetical here, I'm not saying that's true, but if it is, make no mistake about whose best interests are a priority in that scenario, no matter how many assurances Bradley might have been given about it. Let's say it comes to light that Weldon's shot his gun first, before Bradley and before even Scott.

Let's say that Weldon's bullet is the one that killed Scott. Then what happens to Bradley in any sort of joint defense effort? He would be just as guilty as Weldon would be in that scenario, even though Weldon put him in this situation. And given Weldon's promise refusal to go quietly should the police come a knock in, and we'll get to that at some point in the future, Bradley could be at risk of holding the bag for the whole thing.

Again, this is just a potential scenario that I would be thinking about if I would be thinking about if I were Amanda, the mother of Bradley's child. I would be thinking, what is the worst that could happen to my husband with this? Which is a question we actually can answer, regardless of who might be paying for Bradley's defense team. And that answer is, the worst is pretty bad, y'all. And we'll get there. Let's first go back to the afternoon of September 9th, 2023, when Bradley was set to meet up with Weldon. As we told you last week, Weldon for some reason thought Bradley was going to meet him in North Myrtle Beach, even though they had agreed to meet at the farm at three.

Just before three, Weldon called Bradley, who was closing in on Weldon's farm in Loras, which is about 40 minutes away from North Myrtle Beach. We played a clip of this conversation last week, but I'm going to play the whole thing for you now, including Bradley's garbled voice and the awkward silences, because I think it puts you right there in the moment. Where are you at? I can't hear you. I'm not looking.

I don't know we're talking about this year. The estimate of Robbins 2.50s. I'm like five minutes away. From where? The farm or the condo? The farm? But I texted you an hour ago and told you go to the condo. Hey.

Did you? Yeah. Oh, fuck. I'm a long way to land. Okay, just, um. Just, um. All right, I'm going to come to the farm. It's going to be about 30 minutes before I get there.

I'll see you at the farm in 30. All right, bye. That call was about three hours before Weldon and Scott would meet up on Highway 9. Let's do a quick revisit of what Weldon's day had been thus far. He overslept and was running behind. He was texting with a woman he had labeled Brooke E. In his phone about how tired he was. He manipulated his mom into taking care of his dog and going to Lowe's to pick up bushels of hay for the restaurant,

which he promised to do the day before but didn't. And now it was overburdening him. He was overwhelmed because he had to deal with getting the fans in the couch and buying a side-by-side ATV for the farm. His granny was giving him advice that was the exact opposite of what his insults. appeared to be, telling him what to do when it came to his emotions about his ex-fiance, Lily. Lily had dropped off her ring and the car that Weldon gave him in Hartsville, about an hour and 40 minutes from where Weldon was, and his Aunt Lucy said she thought there was a man

in the car that Lily rode away in. He was ruminating about it so much that he texted old Brookie, screenshots of the messages from his Aunt Lucy about the drop-off. Then his friend Bradley, to Weldon's mind, had screwed up their plans, making it so Weldon now had to go back to the farm to pick up Bradley, where he encountered a car versus motorcycle wreck and a dead body along the way. Around this time, like we said last week, Weldon was also on the hunt for three boxes, each with a $300 fan in it, that he had purchased for the farm and that had been delivered that Wednesday to his restaurant. Booie's on the boulevard. Only problem? The employee he was texting with could not find those fans. So Weldon called his mom back at 307 p.m. And I know y'all love listening to Weldon's mama's voice. So here you go.

Hello. I'm missing some packages that were delivered this week. Do you have anything at the house? No, is he playing at boys? They say they, no. I'm missing like three fans and then a two small box. What kind of fans? They're big giant industrial fans that you put in a phone. Oh, you know what? They're outside, inside the fence. Okay.

I saw one the other day and I wondered why they were three. I thought maybe it was something with the air commission upstairs. Okay. All right. Add that to Weldon's growing list of irritations on September 9th, 2023. based on data from Bradley's phone showing Bradley's movements, it appears that Weldon got to the farm around 3.20 p.m., and they got back on the road about 20 minutes after that. According to the phone data, they then went to Weldon's condo and got there around 4.17 p.m., presumably to pick up those

patio couches that he was trailering. This is also when Weldon posted Lily's forerunner for sale on Facebook at that same time, despite his granny telling him to not act hastily. Weldon and Bradley were at Weldon's condo for about 15 minutes, then headed over to Buoy's on the Boulevard, which is Weldon's restaurant, to go get those fans. While they were doing that, Scott Spivey was two and a half miles northwest of them at Boardwalk Billies. At 506 p.m., Scott asked for his tab. At 509, he signed the bill. At the time, he was continuing to carry on a conversation with the couple next to him. Because the surveillance video at Billy's that was included in the case file does not show Scott getting up from the bar, or leaving the restaurant, we don't know when Scott actually got in his truck.

We don't know why that video isn't in the case file, but Scott doesn't meet up with Weldon on Highway 9 for another 39 minutes. Boardwalk Billy's is about 9 to 20 minutes from the Bell and Bell Light in Longs, depending on the traffic. So that means if Scott left from Boardwalk Billies and got on the road to go straight home, he would have had to leave Boardwalk Billies by 528 at the earliest, and by 539 at the latest, to make it to the light at the time he did. So again, why wouldn't there be video showing Scott standing up from the bar and walking away

from the bar? One reason could be that the video showed that Scott didn't seem to be impaired, that he walked out of the bar steadily, and that just didn't fit the narrative that had already been established. At 512, Weldon and Bradley left buoys and headed over to the farm. They stopped at tractor supply along the way. They were there from 525 until sometime after 5.47 p.m. Weldon appears to have posted Lily's engagement ring for sale on Facebook right before going into the store.

At a 544 p.m., Bradley texted his wife Amanda, who was out of town. How's your party, love? Again, two very different frames of mind going on there, two very different things happening in their lives. In the driver's seat, we have Weldon, who appears to have been grappling with the fact that the reality he had built up his mind about him and Lily and their future son over the past six months had crumbled to his feet that day. And in the passenger seat, we have Bradley, who had dropped his young son off at his mother's house to come spend the night with one of his closest friends and was thoughtfully checking in with his wife about a party she appears to have worked hard at setting up the night

before. And that's when they got to Highway 9, where Scott Spivey was on his way home with only minutes left to live. Now, I want to fast word through the crime scene and the witnesses and the helpful boosts that Weldon got from various members of law enforcement until 8.44 p.m. When Weldon and Bradley were taken to the north precinct of Orey County Police Department in Longs, for reference, that's doubling back and it's near where the bell and bell light was. We'll revisit the crime scene through Bradley's eyes in a future episode. The two main things to know right now are this. Bradley was quiet at the scene, something Weldon had noted to his mother, and Weldon told police that his attorney, Ken Moss, who had come

to the scene, was also Bradley's attorney. It's not clear when Bradley actually spoke to Ken by himself for the first time. Another thing that is notable is that Bradley did not call Amanda or text her to let her know what was happening. It's hard to know what that might mean. Was he protecting her and not wanting to ruin her party? Or was he in denial or too shaken up? Or all of the above? At 7.44 p.m. that night, Amanda had texted Bradley to tell him that the party turned out great. He didn't respond. Ten minutes later, she asked, how's the bike? Presumably, a reference to Bradley riding on Weldon's property, which is what they should have been doing at that time. Bradley did not respond. At 8.30, Amanda texted her husband, I loves yous. Within seconds, Bradley wrote back,

I love you too. I can't quite talk at the moment. Now, we told you about the night before when Amanda and Bradley were texting each other in that cooey love language that couples sometimes use. It sort of seems like Amanda might have been expecting an I loves you's back from Bradley and not such a formal reply. And I don't know about y'all, but if my husband had texted, I love you, I can't quite talk at the moment when I was expecting in I loves you's back, I would have automatically known something was wrong. Many men throughout history have made fun of women's intuition, and some have even insisted we were crazy for following that intuition when it told us to ask them questions, like, is something going on here? And though they insisted we were nuts

for thinking something was going on there, they also knew damn well we were spot on. They just didn't know why. And, you know, sometimes they accused us back in history of dabbling in witchcraft because how else would we know something they hadn't told us? And I'm here today to clear it all up for them. It's pattern recognition, you women burners. Pattern recognition. That is just to say. Amanda texted her husband back almost immediately. Okie-dokey. Why? Bradley did not respond. Then at 1012 p.m. Amanda texted him again. I hope everything is okay. I loves you's and miss you bunches and bunches. To that Bradley responded, I love you and miss you's with one S instead of multiple ones. Everything is okay, he wrote, I'll call you in a little while. Amanda told him she was putting her phone on

the charger and would check it in a bit. Less than an hour later, she texted him to let him know she was back with her phone and then texted him twice more. He didn't respond. According to his log, he never called her. Just after 12.30 a.m., he texted her to see if she was still awake, and she did not respond. Around a quarter after eight the next morning, Amanda texted Bradley again. Good morning, love bug. I can't wait to hear what happened. We had a great party and I am not hungover. Bradley texted her back within a few minutes. You know, never a dull moment with Weldon. Amanda responded, oh man, oh man, my mind is wondering. Then at 8.30 a.m., Bradley texted his wife, who still did not know he helped kill a man the night before. L.O.L. I'm a finished pooping

and then call. So, laugh out loud. I'm going to finish going number two. Then I'll tell you about the hijinks I got into with that Weldon Boyd and how he chased and killed a man? What? More on that after a quick break. You know, this is a story. You know, this is a story in which a man was

chased and followed and shot to death, whose body was left in his truck and towed his truck to an impound lot where officers who were helping Weldon Boyd escape accountability for killing him stripped the man's clothes off of him item by item as they photographed him until he was naked and lying on the ground of the impound lot with his arms in the air contorted and not unlike a praying mantis because of the rigor mortis that had set in while he was kept slumped over in his hot truck. This is a story where the chief deputy of the police department told Weldon that he had the right people coming to help him at the scene, where an officer at the scene instructed Weldon to act like a victim, and where another twice instructed Weldon to stop

talking, something officers usually like suspects to do. That guy even sternly gave Weldon the universal sign for zip your lips. This is a story filled with lies and exaggerations and cruelty, filled with cover-ups and incompetence and cowardice, a story where the justice system has proven once again to have a VIP lounge for those who can afford to be there, where the South Carolina Attorney General's office continues to pretend that they did the right thing and the ethical thing in deciding not to charge Weldon and Bradley, based on a carefully crafted narrative that they were given by law enforcement officers who had already determined what the outcomes should be before they had begun collecting evidence. And despite all of that,

discovering that Bradley had texted his wife from the toilet the next morning to tell her that would be a minute before he could inform her that he had killed a man is still a very shocking thing to read. That said, they stayed on the phone for 42 minutes that morning. Now let's rewind the night before. According to Bradley's phone data, Weldon and Bradley left Camp Swamp Road at 8.45 p.m. They were driven to Ory County Police Department's North Precinct and Longs by Detective Michael Quick, who didn't start recording the subject transport until about two minutes in. Bradley didn't say a word during the entire recorded part of the 12-minute drive. Weldon and Detective Quick listened to the University of South Carolina versus Stanford University football game, and

Weldon peppered quick with many questions about working for Ory County Police, in between Weldon's many sleepy yawns. At the police station, where Weldon, Bradley, Weldon's attorney Ken Moss and Bradley's alleged attorney Ken Moss, and presumably the right people who were hand-picked by Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland met to talk. Though Weldon and Bradley arrived at the station just before 9 p.m., their interviews with police didn't start for another 40 minutes. So let me set the scene for you. Weldon and Bradley are sitting in chairs in the middle of what appears to be a large office. Bradley is on the left. Weldon is on the right. Both are sitting with their legs spread wide apart and hands on. Weldon is leaning back in his chair. To the right of

Weldon is a man in khaki shorts and a blue parquet type jacket standing in the doorframe of what looks like a supply room. He is casually leaning against the frame. That man is George Dubusk. The prosecutor sent to the scene by 15th Circuit solicitor Jimmy Richardson. Brandon Strickland would later tell Weldon he had spoken with Jimmy that night and had informed him about the situation. Weldon and Bradley's attorney, Ken Moss, is sitting off to the left at someone's desk, but facing toward the middle of the room. Standing next to him is Detective Alan Jones, the quote-unquote good old boy that Brandon assured Weldon would do right by him. Also in the room are Ory County Police Lieutenant Doug DeShong, who goes in and out, and another man who would

later sit with George DeBusk and presumably was also with the 15th Circuit Solicitor's Office. And the reason why Weldon referred to solicitors, in the plural, in his little love letter to law enforcement that Weldon posted to Facebook a few days later. And in the room was a detective with the last name of Martin, who was not on the schedule for that night. Before Ken Moss will allow Ory County to interview Weldon and Bradley, he has a few demands. Let's start with what Detective Alan Jones says to Ken, Weldon, and Bradley, and Ken's response to that.

I'll just want to tell you guys, without seeing this thing they're going to be I've gotten witness statements on all of it and what I've seen and what everybody's told me and you guys initially told the uniformed officers the CliffsNotes version of what took place. I need more of the novel version. We do this normally we separate you guys so your point of view that's your point of view, okay um so what i'm going to do for the time being mr williams is probably just let you go have a seat when in the offices here real quick and mr lord mr moss will have a conversation real quick

by anything it took place as long as he has no objection to it well i'm objection you separate and that's pretty typical but i do have some i do have an objection concern to them discussing whether without the ability to hear the 911 recording because that is the contemporane was supporting and I don't want the recollection to be inconsistent, that causing the problems for them. I confer with Attorney Lee on my drive here, and he concurred with that. They all the belly here, because that was... As far as what, they said on that only one? Yes.

Okay. You don't know the inconsistencies potentially is where sometimes people get in trouble when I just... Oh, yeah. I'm hard to understand where you're coming from. We have a contemporary answer. temporary recording what the events have happened, and I think they should rely on that or if it's sufficient now. I mean, if it's, if the audio quality is not sufficient, and they hear that, and, you know,

they're not worried about inconsistency, but I'd like to have that report on them. So, first, Ken Moss's reference to Attorney Lee. That is presumably Robert E. Lee, who is on either Bradley's or Weldon's legal team, or both, it is hard to tell. In October 2023, which is just one month after the shooting, quote, the Honorable Robert E. Lee is listed as a special referee for Ory County. So, interesting that Ken Moss would cite the Honorable Lee as some authority on whether Weldon and Bradley had the right to hear Weldon's 911 recording before they spoke to police.

Because second, Weldon's 911 call is evidence. And it's the kind of evidence that investigators typically listen to before even talking with the subject, because the inconsistencies in their stories might be notable. Allowing a subject, person of interest, suspect, whatever word you want to use, to listen to their own 911 call before they speak to police, compromises the investigation for the very same reason that Ellen Jones cited as to why they had to separate Wilden and Bradley for their interviews. The fact that a detective, other law enforcement officers, and a prosecutor, and his prosecutor's office sidekick

didn't even flinch at letting Weldon hear the version of his story he gave to the dispatcher which obviously differed from what Weldon was saying at the scene and clearly differed from the evidence at the scene specifically seeing that Scott could not have shot at Weldon and Bradley the way Weldon detailed because there weren't any casings in the spot where Weldon said it happened

and there was only one single casing outside of Scott's truck from Scott's gun and it was in the same place basically where a casing from Weldon's gun was found outside his truck, and we all know Weldon shot Scott from inside his truck with the door shut. Right there was a major inconsistency between reality, reality, and Weldon's reality. But sure, let the guy hear exactly what he said happened so he won't be inconsistent to that. Ken Moss is literally telling Detective Alan Jones, help us cheat here. Compromise the investigation for us.

Attorney ding-dong when Diddy says it's okay. And Alan Jones says yes to that. And not just yes, but I wholeheartedly understand where you're coming from. Third, why did Ken Moss mention the possibility that the 911 audio might not be of good quality? Why did he say if it's a poor quality, then we're not worried about the inconsistencies? I get that 911 calls can be frustratingly muddled sometimes, but they are the first piece of evidence in a case like this. Why not wait to hear the audio to determine the quality before mentioning it as a potential problem up front, before the detective has even retrieved the file.

Huh. I'm not saying I know the answer or that Ken Moss was trying to signal to the investigator that maybe the audio isn't usable so the investigator could come back and say, it's not usable. I'm saying, given what else we know about the police investigation up to this point

and what they seemed willing to do for Weldon, I know that this is a question that needs to be asked and answered. And fourth, here's how George DeBusk, the prosecutor, who clearly went to the Alan Wilson and Heather Weiss School of Prosecution in favor of the defense, coattails off of Ken Moss's argument for why they should get to listen to the call and starts asking Weldon banal questions about how he called 911.

I've got the phone. I'm sorry. I got the phone he called 911. This one right here. Tell us what time called. And I was on there for eight minutes and 12 seconds. Oh, still day. So it's still daylight.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it was still daylight? Isn't that a fun question? Remember State Prosecutor Heather Weiss's patchwork solution for why it was okay for Weldon to chase Scott and then take a turn onto Camp Swamp Road and to put himself in harm's way and still be justified for Scott's killing? Remember how she helped the defense by suggesting the citizen's arrest law might apply here?

Even though Weldon nor Bradley claimed to have been following Scott to make a citizen's arrest, while the law allows a citizen to shoot and kill their adversary if it's dark outside, which it wasn't, and even Weldon is telling the truth about that. Then, Ken asked Weldon whether the 911 call was made. from his speakerphone. Oh, Ken, just like my husband, always thinking about the audio quality. Little did he know

he would be getting so much audio in this case. Um, just wanted to call? Just made. Oh, that's it. Were you on the speaker phone when you called or like when you trouble?

No, I had it. That's why I had trouble getting them in reverse and everything, Now, Weldon mentions not being able to back up the truck a lot, and we think we know why that is. Bradley told Weldon to back up in the heat of the moment, which means from Bradley's perspective, the shootout was avoidable, and certainly that's not something that Weldon wants people to believe. So he pantomimes holding the smartphone between his ear and his right shoulder in that sort of classic back when we had landlines way, when your mom would be multitasking in the kitchen and

she would have the phone between her ear and shoulder talking to a friend. And Walden says this explains why he couldn't shift the truck into reverse because of how he was holding the phone, which like I just said, you can multitask. But more than that, it makes no sense because the shooting started a split second after Weldon said he couldn't put the truck into reverse. And that raises the question about where was the gun when Weldon said he could. back up the truck because how did witness number two see Weldon with both hands on the dashboard with the gun right as he's unloading it at the very same time that Weldon seems to be saying he can't back up? And also, where did the phone go at that point? It couldn't have fallen on the

floor, right? Because on Weldon's end, you can hear everything. Anyway, Ken Moss asks Alan Jones, who is off camera if he needs Weldon's phone number and George Debusk, top graduate of the Wilson-wise, prosecutors can also work for the Defense School of Legal Philosophy, chimes in, hopefully, that, nah, they just need the time. Mr. Lee, you call 911 as well? Yes, sir. Okay. You need his phone number?

No, time should be the matter. And then my favorite part, while they're waiting for Allen to get the 911 recording, they, of course, put on the game. I hear a game out. That was losing, buddy. Yeah, it's not me. I hear the game copter having a hard time performing. They're not.

I thought they were playing Carolina Forest. Go to 30 9, yeah. What channel's on here? ABC coming? Yes, yeah. I think. Yeah. So that's great, huh.

In upcoming episodes, we'll share what went down in both Weldon and Bradley's interviews with the police that night, the night that they killed Scott Spivey, and we'll talk more about why we think Bradley Williams is in big trouble. But for now, I want you to close your eyes and imagine that you were an attorney in Alan Wilson's office reviewing the Scott Spivey case. Actually reviewing it as a real prosecutor. looking at the evidence available against Weldon and Bradley, not whatever the heck Heather Weiss did when she thumbed through the case a year ago, and her conclusions were basically a series of defense strategies. Imagine being a real prosecutor who cares about public safety

and one who strives for the justice system to be better. Imagine finding all of the pieces of shocking evidence that Mark Tensley, Jennifer Spivey Folly, and our team have discovered, in the last few months. The recorded phone calls from a deputy police chief admitting to interfering with the investigation. The video evidence of cops on scene coaching the suspect to act like a victim

and to shut his mouth. The witness interviews that don't match up with the police reports, the police recordings, showing how the cops gave Weldon and Bradley the good old boy treatment before their investigation really even began.

The evidence of Weldon's state of mind leading up to Scott's death, and the mere fact that Weldon followed Scott for nearly 10 miles before shooting him to death. Imagine reviewing all of that, as Alan Wilson claimed they did in a press release last week, and then still doubling down on the absurd conclusion that Weldon and Bradley deserve to be protected, quote, under South Carolina's protection of persons and property act, because, quote, individuals have the right to defend themselves if they reason, believe they are in imminent danger, also known as the stand-your-ground statute.

Immunity from prosecution is provided in certain circumstances where the use of deadly force is deemed lawful. Imagine doubling down on that very unpopular legal opinion that will ultimately cost Alan Wilson, thousands of votes, and maybe even the election. That opinion makes South Carolinians feel unsafe. Like this is a land where law and order do not matter, where people feel like they have to buy weapons to feel safe, preferably from his brother's mega gun store. We know that Alan Wilson is risking a lot with doubling down, instead of just saying something like the whole investigation was tainted when we looked at it, and it deserves an entirely different analysis. What we don't know is what he gained from behind the scenes, issuing this opinion. Political

endorsements, campaign money, government contract exchanges. Or maybe he's cheap. Maybe he just wanted free lunches at buoys. And where does Bradley fit into all of this? How far does he think he will be protected by Weldon? And who is protecting Bradley, if anyone? Guys, we have so much more to talk. about. Buckle up and stay safe out there. Stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. provided by Jamie Hoffman, case file management, provided by Kate Thomas. Learn more about our mission and membership at LunaSharkmedia.com. Interruptions provided by Luna and Joe Pesky. When I look back at my younger self, I remember the feeling of being bullied and disrespected.

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