Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #116 - Accused Pedo RJ May Digs Himself Into A Deeper Hole + ‘I’m Stressed as F**k’: Bradley Williams Tells Police Why They Shot Scott Spivey

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell have seen some dumb litigators in their day, but the person representing former South Carolina Rep. RJ May is by far the biggest idiot. RJ May �� who is representing himself in court after being charged with 10 federal counts of distributing child sexual abuse material this past June — filed his very first motion last week after firing his public defense team, who wouldn’t file the motion for him … likely because it’s a really bad idea.  The 32-page handwritten filing accuses the government of misconduct but not for any reason you could guess at. Mandy and Liz talk about RJ May’s attempt at being clever and how they already foresee it blowing up in his face.  Also on the show, after 33-year-old (33:50) Scott Spivey was shot and killed on Sept. 9, 2023, by North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Boyd and his friend Bradley Williams, Horry County Police Department failed to separate both shooters. Hours later, when questioned by investigators and two prosecutors, Bradley Williams appeared nervous and careful about the details he gave. At that point, though, according to the case file, police had already intervened in the investigation to make sure Weldon and Bradley wouldn’t be charged. So why interview them at all?  Mandy and Liz share the recording of Bradley’s interview with police and the shocking moments that show just how little effort was put into investigating Scott’s case. So much to cover, so let’s dive in! 🥽🦈 Episode References Trailer for Hulu’s Murdaugh: Death in the Family is here!! 🎥 Give Murdaugh: Death in the Family a follow on Instagram and TikTok ⬅️ Justice for (2:45) Christa on Facebook and Instagram 💜 Previous Episodes: TSP 71 & 115 🎧 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ Learn more about Premium Membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get bonus episodes like our Premium Dives, Corruption Watchlist, Girl Talk, and Soundbites that help you Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight Here's a link to some of our favorite things: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   |   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production written with journalist Liz Farrell. Well, let's start with some good news. The trailer for Murdoch Death in the Family played during the Emmys on Sunday, and y'all, that is a big deal. The trailer currently has over 10 million views on YouTube, and like I said last week, I don't think I've ever felt so proud to be a part of a project like this one. With the series, I know that our star will be rising this fall, and I want to say two things before it gets really crazy. The first is thank you.

And I mean you, the busy mom, who has listened to us in the school pickup line for four years. You, the diva who angry listening. to us while on your hot girl walks. You, the dad with daughters, who just wants men to be better. You are pesky listeners, especially our Luna Shark premium members who have supported us for all of these years and encouraged us to keep going when it would have been so easy to quit. You pushed us to this point where we will be seen on the red carpet and acknowledged in a real

way for our six years of tireless work on the Murdoch Inveyor. Thank you for seeing us. Thank you for hearing us. Thank you for supporting us. And thank you for believing in us. This podcast has changed the lives of so many people and it has always been an honor of a lifetime to publish hundreds of episodes with y'all. We aren't going anywhere. But like I said, things are about to get crazy. The other thing I will say is that I will never take the audience that we built for granted. I will always continue to build. The voice for the victims, expose the truth wherever it leads, and get the story straight. On that note, we need to update y'all on a case that we haven't talked about in months, but we think about all the time. The Krista Bauer-Gilley case. Krista Bauer-Gilley, a South Carolina native, tragically lost her life on a Tuesday last October in Houston, Texas.

She was nine weeks pregnant with her third child. Her husband, Lee Mongerson Gillie, is facing a capital murder charge in. her death. Since her death, a group of Krista's closest friends have made a social media page to advocate for justice in Krista's case, to raise awareness for domestic violence victims across the country, and to honor Krista's legacy that she left behind as a friend, a mother, a physical therapist, and a radiant force of good. Every Tuesday, the Justice for Krista page encourages those who want to honor Krista to wear the color purple, to make Tuesday the day that Krista lost her life, a little less heavy.

Oddly enough, since Krista's best friends, dubbed the Purple Ladies, started their Purple Tuesday campaign, some of the most significant events in Krista's murder case have occurred on Tuesdays. On a Tuesday in March, Christa's autopsy report finally came back. After more than five months of waiting, this was a big step toward justice, as it seemed unusually long to wait for an autopsy, and we heard the autopsy needed to be complete for Lee to be indicted. On a Tuesday in April, Christ's husband, Lee Gilley, was finally indicted by a Texas grand jury on one count of capital murder. And on a Tuesday in May, Lee Gilley finally faced his first

formal court appearance since he was charged in the murder of his wife and their unborn child on October 11th, 2024. And this week, on a Tuesday and September, Lee Gilly appeared in court again for another hearing. Thankfully, Justice for Krista's supporters were at the hearing, and I want to have David read what they wrote. Again, go follow this page for updates on Krista's case. Her friends are doing the work and leading the way,

and it's honestly inspiring. Christa's family returned to Harris County, criminal court today, surrounded by supporters from Krista's Houston community. The prosecution is working diligently to complete the discovery process, and a status hearing was scheduled for November 12th to ensure that discovery is complete. The judge set a tentative date for a jury trial with testimony to begin on February 23, 26. During the status update in November, the court will consider whether more time is needed. The next family court date is set for October 1st, where the defendant will be asking for supervised visitation of Christa's surviving children,

who were in the home at the time of Christa's death. The Bowers continue to care for the children as they cope with the loss of their mother. Please pray for the Bower family as they continue to navigate every family's worst nightmare and hope for justice. Okay, so that's a lot, but let's focus on the positive part of that update. the fact that Lee Gilley's trial is now tentatively scheduled for February 23, 26. We've said this before, but the sooner a trial date is set in a murder case, it is generally better for the prosecution. I'm not sure how things work in Texas, but I'm surprised that Lee Gilley's expensive defense team, led by the Dick DeGaron, who secured him a $1 million bond that got him released with few restrictions last year.

I'm surprised they haven't delayed the trial date more. Like we've said before, in South Carolina, it often takes five years after a person is charged with murder for the case to go to trial. February 23, 2026 will be less than a year and a half since Krista was allegedly murdered. The indictment states that Lee, quote, intentionally and knowingly, caused the death of an unborn child by applying pressure to Krista Gilli's neck and upper back, while Krista Gilli was pregnant with the unborn. Krista was nine weeks pregnant with their third child.

Their two children were in the single floor house at the time that Krista was allegedly strangled. On scene, Lee Gilley told police that his wife overdosed. But that story seemed to fall apart soon after medical professionals took a look at Krista and found that she suffered significant trauma, and they said that she was in fact killed by strangulation, according to court records. Far too often, police believe the suicide lie, a concept that we discussed in the Kalucci case in episode 71. We've discovered through multiple investigations that in many states it is way too easy for

police and coroners to label a murder a suicide because it is essentially less work for everyone involved. Unless, of course, someone pushes back. I think that this is a phenomenon not talked about enough in true crime. In this case, the medical professionals pushed back on Leah's narrative, and I am grateful that the police actually listened to them and looked at the evidence. What is terrifying and unique about Christa's death is that it is essentially a domestic violence murder case involving a defendant with no documented criminal history in a marriage

that didn't appear to be dangerous to many of Christ's loved ones. This is not at all to say that their marriage wasn't troubled, but simply to say that he could have been good at masking. The big mystery in this case that hopefully will be revealed at trial has always been the motive. If things went down the way that prosecutors say that they did, how did Lee Gilley go from putting his children to bed that night to murdering his wife? He told police that Krista and he argued that night because he bought a car earlier that day. But that doesn't seem like enough to trigger a man who doesn't have a history of violence.

What if the argument was about something more than a car? Christa's medical records have been brought up a number of times in discovery and appear to be important to both sides. We know that Krista was hospitalized for a serious medical condition in 2023. But what was really going on with Krista's health in the year before her death? and could it in any way be related to her murder? Had Lee Gilley ever done anything to hurt his wife before he allegedly killed her in October 24 when she was nine weeks pregnant?

One thing we know about Lee from his social media posts is that he was a supporter of so-called men's rights and the idea that mothers should stay home and not have careers. Krista not only had a career as a physical therapist, but she loved it and she excelled at it. Meanwhile, according to sources, Lee was struggling in his career as a spreadsheet guy, according to several sources.

We hope that the DA will answer the many questions that we have in this case during trial in February. While Lee Gilley has worked hard to appear like a loving father who would never kill his wife, remember that little innocence website that was quickly taken down after we found it, earlier this year? Lee Gillies' family has forced Krista's parents into a court battle over the past year for custody over Krista's two young children. Earlier this year, a judge finally ruled

that Krista's parents were awarded custody of the children and they were allowed to bring them to their home in Somerville, South Carolina, which was a monumental win in the Justice for Krista fight. Unfortunately, the Gillies have not given up. Now, Lee Gilly is asking the court for supervised visits with his two children, you know, the ones who were in the house on the night of their mother's alleged murder. Oh, the audacity of this man, who is being utterly and methodically supported by his family, you know, his parents, the owner of the Yum Yum snack shop in Greenville County, South Carolina.

By the way, that Instagram page has posted some weird cryptic messages recently. But newsflash to the gillies, in our opinion, a good father would never rip his grieving children away from a stable home to force them to see their father, who stands accused of murdering their mother and unborn sibling while they were in the house. A good father would wait until after trial to put Christa's family and children through that heartache. Shame on him and the Gillies for creating yet another hurdle for Christ's family and his own children to go through. So I will say this again, shame on the gilly family for making a horrible situation worse for the Bowers and for Christ's children. Please continue to support the Bower family by following Justice for Krista on Instagram and Facebook, by wearing purple every Tuesday,

and tagging them to show your support, and support the second annual Bower Power Golf Tournament on Sunday, October 19th at the Somerville Country Club. Again, check out the Justice for Christ's social media page for more info on that. So on last week's True Sunlight, we talked a lot about former South Carolina representative R.J. May, the accused pedophile who helped South Carolina Attorney General

Alan Wilson get elected to office way back when. and BT-dubs. That is how we're going to be referring to him from now on. The accused pedophile who helped Alan Wilson become Alan Wilson. Specifically, though, we talked about RJ's super brilliant decision to fire his taxpayer-funded public defense team over their apparent refusal to file a motion that he really, really, really wants the court to consider. As you know, a federal grand jury indicted RJ on 10 felony counts of distributing child sexual abuse material this past June. An agent from Homeland Security Investigations testified that RJ had allegedly distributed about 220 videos to more than 450 users on an app called Kick over the course of about a

week in March and April of 2024. According to court filings, the videos contain scenes of adults, raping babies, men and women forcing children under 10 years old into sexual acts and bestiality. R.J. allegedly distributed these videos under the username Joe Biden 69. In an equally brilliant move as allegedly choosing a sitting president's name as his alleged crime alias, RJ, who did not go to law school or sit for the bar exam, has decided to service his own attorney, at least for now. And I say at least for now, because because my money is on RJ failing at his own game. My money is on RJ finding himself back in line for his public defense entitlement,

or, as his crowd likes to say, his government handout. Because, again, he fired his lawyers so he could file this specific motion, which, without even knowing what this motion is about, that seems like an immediately bad idea, right? Jenny Smith and Jeremy Thompson, the two attorneys representing RJ with their combined amount of schooling and federal defense experience and solid reputation that they have, apparently did not agree that this would be a smart move for their client's case.

Instead of listening to that professional advice, their client, RJ, also known as Be Humble, Robert John, as his father warned him in a jail text, has decided he'd be better at defending himself in a criminal case that carries a potential 20 years in prison for each of his 10 charges. Oh, to have the confidence of a mediocre man. This is who you elected, by the way, Lexington County, South Carolina. This is the guy you put in office after knowing he was likely facing charges pertaining to C-SAM.

That brainiac right there. You voted for him. And that is wild. Anyway, like we said last week, we were really looking forward to reading RJ's high and mighty motion. And our researcher, Beth Braden, was pressing refresh on the government's court database all day last Wednesday, waiting for that motion to show up. And when it did, oh, little buddy, R.J. May, or someone on his behalf, hand wrote this 32-page motion to suppress one of the search warrants issued in his investigation. Now, we see a lot of handwritten motions from people in jail or prison. So I want to be really clear here that any joke we make about his Timo motion, like that, that was a joke, is about RJ May and not about other inmates and prisoners with limitations on their access to the court system. because we're not fully believing that R.J. May is going this alone. First, this man was a founder of the state's Freedom Caucus and was also a political consultant. That makes him both a hypocrite and a good old boy.

Second, we believe that R.J. May was afforded some gentleman's courtesy when it came to the timing of his investigation. Remember, two whole months went by between when R.J.'s former clients, state attorney general Alan Wilson, and Lexington County Sheriff J. Coon, first learned that the Joe Biden 69 account was allegedly connected to RJ May and when investigators raided RJ May's house. Three, we're not used to seeing good old boys or men with such unique access to money and power in South Carolina, go the public defender route, never mind the pro se route, i.e., defending themselves. So this is a new one and a bit suspicious to us because four, R.J. May's colleagues in the legislature sure were quiet during the nearly 12 months it took to charge him. They sure did act like nothing

was wrong, even though the public could see there was. Was that because they were expecting RJ would escape charges here and they could go back to normal? Did they think the investigation would go nowhere because during the investigation phase, R.J. had hired Trump attorney Mark Mukasey, who helped former congressman Matt Gates escape sex trafficking charges. Why so chicken, Freedom Caucus? What'd you stand to lose if you had spoken out against RJ at that time? And what are you all up to now? R.J. May had all those legislator lawyer friends, all those South Carolina lawyers who love to remind us that everyone deserves a defense. Where are they now? Team Murdoch once said they'd represent Ehrlich for free because they believed in his innocence.

So I'm not sure we can say money is the reason. We can't say for sure, obviously, but it kind of seems like one or two of them might be helping behind the scenes like true cowards do. Or maybe RJ made use of the Edgefield County Detention Center, inmate attorney? Is there an inmate helping other inmates with their court filings in Edgefield County?

Does anyone know? Because I find it hard to believe that RJ, who, according to his text messages, doesn't know the difference between your, as in, you're in jail, And your, as in how's your jail cell, came up with this motion on his own. And I would love to know who gave him the idea for it because it is truly bananas. And that's not because it's clever.

It's what the old folk call clever by half. It is truly a feat in logical self-destruction. So again, it's 32 pages handwritten with amazingly very few spelling errors in there. Again, if RJ wrote this, then kudos to him, but I remain suspicious. We'll talk more about RJ after a quick break. We'll be right back. Hey, y'all. As we've been bouncing around the country

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first got the tip about the alleged CSAM and it took two months after that before RJ's house was raided. Oh, and for those of y'all who don't know what RJ may looks like to be able to envision him on that square, here's some help with that. Picture of Flintstone's vitamin

that thinks it knows better than women when it comes to their own body's lives in health care. Okay, so this motion to suppress, let's start with the part that R.J. May thinks is the big ladder for him to climb, the one that lets him skip half the board and gets him really close to that finish line. During RJ's detention hearing in federal court

on June 12th of this year, agent Britton Lorenzen testified about the evidence against him and got into this back and forth with R.J.'s then-attorney, his private attorney, Dane Phillips. about how they could charge RJ when no CSAM was found on any of the devices they had seized from his home in August 2024. Again, federal court doesn't allow for recording devices, so we're going to have David read for Phillips, RJ's defense attorney, and Mandy will read for Agent Britton Lorenzen. Phillips, as far as you talk about some generalities, a little bit about general cases of these things.

things occur, how often is it that you prefer, execute a search warrant, and there is no C-S-A-M material or artifacts on any of the devices found? Lorenzen. Oh, it is very common. Phillips, very common? Lorenzen, yes. Phillips. So, if there is a search of federal cases that we will find many, Many cases where there is zero evidence on any devices after execution of a search warrant?

Lorenzen. With the technology of cloud-based systems, yes, you are going to find that there, commonly there are not items actually saved on the camera roll of a phone. Phillips. On device or artifacts. We can include the cloud because you don't have any CSAM material. in a cloud that connects that to Mr. May. Is that right? Lorenzen. Well, we can connect the KIC accounts with him, which is essentially a cloud-based

storage system for their phones and their content. Essentially, RJ's argument is like, how can I be charged with CSAM when no CSAM was found on any of my devices that were in my home that the government seized in the raid that they did months after two. former powerful clients of mine learned of these allegations. And the government's argument is like, because we know what Joe Biden 69's account did. All of that is traceable in the app. And all of your devices connect you to Joe Biden 69. This is where RJ has his foot on the bottom rung of the ladder, ready to hoist himself up on the shoots and ladders board. Because, Why? Because he thinks what Agent Lorenzen said there amounts to government misconduct. I'll say it's

slower. He thinks that her saying that it is very common for accused pedophiles to not have CSAMs stored on their physical devices amounts to government misconduct. I know. But let's let R.J. climb down his little ladder of the game board. He's not going to get far. Don't worry. All right, so what about Agent Lorenzen's testimony? That it's very common for alleged pedophiles to not keep CSAM on devices but rather use apps as de facto cloud-based storage. What about that would constitute government misconduct? Well, R.J. May thinks that her testimony contradicts the search warrant of his devices. Again, he fired his lawyers because they apparently wouldn't make this argument for him in court.

So we can already guess how the high court might rule here, but let's go through this anyway. RJ fully climbed the little ladder and he's excited because he thinks he's going to win the game here. In his little Timo motion that he likely got help with and we would love to know from whom, RJ argues that Agent Lorenzen lied in her affidavit to search his devices. And that is where this gets so rich. R.J. says Agent Lorenzen lied to the court because she needed to overcome the issue of quote-unquote staleness, meaning because the dates of RJ's alleged crimes are four months prior to when his house was raided. RJ is arguing that Agent Lorenzen had to show the court that it would not be a violation of RJ's Fourth Amendment rights to search the house when they did.

But wait a minute. Remember who handled the initial tips in the RJ? May case, Alan Wilson's office, and then Lexington County Sheriff Coon's office. Both places, RJ May has connections. And that was for months before Homeland Security got the case. I have to ask this, did either of them stall the case to help him? The question's worth asking, especially now that he is using the government's lack of urgency in his case for his own argument. It's a classic Elic Murdoch move to use the privilege that the system gave him to his own advantage. Again, why did he get all of that time between the time that the tip came in and the time that his house was searched? Did someone tip RJ off?

Were certain people in power working to protect him and to protect his seat? Or was it a simple, you better be right about searching a state representative's house. Either way, the staleness only reflects his privilege. Our constitutional right against search and seizure means that investigators need to work quickly if they want to search your stuff, and they need to have a very good reason for it, aka probable cause. In RJ's case, he's arguing that four months is a hurdle that Agent Lorenzen had to lie to overcome to get that search warrant, and therefore she lied to the court. and the reason he quote-unquote knows that she lied is because of the testimony that she gave

in court on June 12, 2025 about it being very common for alleged pedophiles to store their CSAM in an app-like kick. RJ is basically trying to have his knives out Benoit Blanc moment. Agent Lorenzen, how can it be very common for alleged pedophiles to store their videos in the cloud if you said this to Judge Page J. Gossett on August 1st, 2024. Um, uh, David, can you read what Lorenzen wrote on her search warrant, according to RJ's filing? As for the staleness concerns, individuals who collect child pornography rarely, if ever, dispose of their sexually explicit materials and may go to great lengths to conceal and protect

from discovery, theft, and damage for their collections of illicit materials. The known desire of such individuals to retain child pornography together with the sense of security afforded by using computers provides probable cause to believe that computer images, especially child pornography, and erotic nudity involving minors, will be retained by the collector indefinitely. R.J. goes on to share instances from the search warrant where Agent Lawrenson told the judge there was probable cause to believe that RJ's devices contained evidence of his offenses. And then he includes several pages about precedent and Fourth Circuit court rulings on probable cause and search

warrants. Just so you know, the courts regard the staleness issue much differently when it comes to child sexual abuse materials because of the nature of those crimes. So even though it is incredibly annoying that RJ's house wasn't searched immediately after the alleged crime was reported in March 2024. And even more annoying that it took two months for them to finally search his house after his former client's attorney general Alan Wilson and Lexington County Sheriff Jay Coon found out about the crime and the alleged connection to RJ. And even though it is beyond annoying that this delay gave RJ some sand for his sandbox so that he could make this dumb argument, four months is not necessarily an egregious amount of time when it comes to

CSAM cases, at least when it comes to search warrants. We'd argue it's very egregious in terms of word being able to get back to RJ that his house is going to be searched so that it doesn't come as a surprise to him. Nevertheless, RJ is saying that his rights were violated, that his devices should not have been searched because four months had gone by and Agent Lawrence quote unquote lied to get the search warrant by saying that it was common for alleged pedophiles to have CSAM on their devices. And he knows that this is a quote unquote lie because she testified on June 12, 2025 saying that it was very common for alleged pedophiles not to have their CSAM on devices, but rather stored in the cloud. And to be clear here, y'all, Agent Lawrence never said

one precluded the other. Two seemingly opposite things can be very common at the very same time. Watch this. It is very common for the male members of the South Carolina Freedom Caucus to act like women hating weirdos. It's also very common for them to be married and have children somehow. Common means prevalent, RJ does not mean majority of. I'm sure both ways of allegedly storing alleged C-SAM are prevalent among the alleged pedophile crowd. Okay, so second, again, do we think RJ came up with this argument himself? and the accompanying citations of precedential rulings? Maybe, I guess.

I mean, I don't think so, but I, thankfully, don't know him. Third, that search warrant includes the devices that purportedly show that R.J. was accessing that Joe Biden 69 account hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times during the time period of the alleged distribution of CSAM. Additionally, investigators found naked photos of a six-year-old member of RJ's family on one of his devices. photos that the child later told investigators he was not supposed to talk about. Investigators had to end the interview because the child began hitting himself and had put a piece of tape over his mouth. RJ does not face charges in connection with those photos and has not been accused of directly

sexually abusing a child. The devices also purportedly link RJ to another alias, Eric Rentling. Eric, aka RJ May, allegedly traveled to Bogota and Medellin, including. Columbia a few times and arranged to record himself having sex with girls who, according to Agent Lorenzen, appeared to be younger than 18. RJ does not face charges in connection with those trips. If the search warrant is thrown out, then how do investigators tie RJ to the Joe Biden 69 username and the KIC account that was used to allegedly distribute CSAM?

It's tricky, right? But the search warrants were for CSAM on his devices. It's likely they have other ways of allegedly connecting RJ. to that Joe Biden 69 account. Okay, fourth, and our most favorite point of all here, and thank you to our esteemed legal sources for helping us with this one. Did R.J. May just make an argument to the court

that he wants exculpatory evidence, i.e. evidence that could exonerate him, suppressed? Is he basically saying there was no probable cause to search my devices, which were in my home that has the IP address, that Joe Biden 69 was allegedly using to distribute CSAM. So do not let the jury consider the 35 devices of mine

that investigator seized that were found to have no CSAM on them. Could he be that dumb? The answer is yes. And oh, there he goes, y'all, right down the chute, all the way back to the beginning of the shoots and ladder board. He is gaining speed and that is going to be one rough landing. So bottom line here, this legislative terrorist fired his public defenders because they apparently refused to argue for the suppression of evidence that their client could use as evidence in his favor. I think we can

see why RJ is accused of distributing CSAM under the name of a former president. A friend of ours pointed out that RJ's motion sounds as though it was written by someone who considers having 35 devices, clear of child's sex abuse material, to be quite a feat. And therefore, that's why he was so focused on it. And maybe it was a feat. Imagine if you were a state representative and a political buddy of yours who you did favors for way back when, did you a favor and used his access to the CSAM tip line to warn you about the investigation

before agents were able to search your devices. Imagine the frantic clearing of phones and computers and other devices. Not saying that that happened. No, I'm not. But if it did, you would want to focus on that as a feat, wouldn't you? It is impossible to imagine how much dumber this case can get, but we all know that we're about to find out. At any rate, the court is expected to hear RJ's motion at 2 p.m., September 24th,

District Court and Columbia. Before then, we are expecting that the government will have its own response to the motion and we will keep you posted. Now let's talk about the Scott Spivey case. Over the past few months, we've shared recorded interviews and written statements with you from witnesses numbers 1 through 5, along with Weldon Boyd's interview with police the night of September 9th, 2023. Just a few hours after he and his friend Bradley Williams shot and killed 33 year old Scott Spivey on Camp Swamp Road and Loris, South Carolina. The interviews and statements from the witnesses not only show inconsistencies with the facts, they didn't back up Weldon's story about what happened on Highway 9, despite Weldon's repeated insistence in the dozens of phone calls

he recorded in the days after the shooting that all five witnesses had seen everything, including Scott driving erratically and pointing a gun at people driving by him. Again, no one knows what led to the altercation on Highway 9 between Scott and Weldon and Bradley. No one knows who started it. No one knows who displayed their weapons first or why. All we have is Weldon's word, which is hard to take it face value given the lies and exaggerations. We also have Bradley's word, which so far can be described as whatever Weldon says happened happened. And that's a problem for Bradley. Because while Bradley is now represented by his own set of attorneys, he and Weldon supposedly were both represented by Ken Moss on the night of the shooting. It's not clear who is paying for those lawyers. Is it Bradley? Or is it someone else who

is highly motivated by what Bradley might have to say? Because here's the really wild thing. Obviously, we don't think Weldon Boyd is covered under the stand-your-ground statute. We think the second he decided to continue chasing Scott, that he became the aggressor. And Weldon denies chasing Scott, but a recorded phone call with his mother would indicate otherwise. Unless, I was on his ass, Mama, means he left six car lengths between his front bumper and Scott rear bumper and we've simply misunderstood. We also aren't convinced that Weldon didn't fire the first shot. That said, there's an argument to be made that Bradley Williams was the only one who could legitimately claim self-defense in that TRX truck that evening. As the passenger, Bradley was fully

at Weldon's mercy. He was only on Camp Swamp Road and in that situation because Weldon had put him there. And we all know how Bradley felt about that because he said at the very second the shooting stopped. Something like, God damn it, Weldon, why couldn't you leave him the fuck alone? Today, we're going to share what went down during Bradley's interview at the North Precinct of the Ory County Police Department on September 9th, 2023. Let's do a quick recap, though, about Weldon's interview. At first, Weldon and Bradley were in the same room and surrounded by Weldon's and allegedly Bradley's attorney Ken Moss, Ory County Police Detectives Alan Wilson, and Mark Martin, Ory County Police Lieutenant Doug Dishong, and two prosecutors from 15

circuit solicitor Jimmy Richardson's office. That's George DeBusk and Dylan Bagnell. Ken Moss told Alan Jones that his clients needed to listen to the 911 call that Weldon had made before being questioned, which is not how investigators typically handle that. Listening to the 911 call was meant to help Weldon and Bradley keep their stories straight, because as we've shown over and over, the fix was in from the very start, which made this meeting a mere normality. These were voluntary statements, sure, but we would argue that they should not have been, given the lack of information police had about how this started and what happened before the 911 calls.

While they waited for Allen to go fetch Weldon's 911 call, the men chatted about sports and put a football game on the television. When Alan came back, Bradley was asked to leave the room so that he wouldn't hear what Weldon said, even though Ori County officers never separated them at the scene and even let them ride together to the police station. Bradley wasn't sent too far, though. He was sent across the hall into an office.

Meanwhile, the door to where Weldon was being questioned was left wide open. During Weldon's interview, he was asked just 12 questions by police and three questions by the prosecutors. No one asked him a single question seeking clarity over inconsistencies in his statements and with the evidence that was known at the time. Weldon was interviewed for about 17 minutes, and we'll talk about Bradley's even shorter interview after a short break. We'll be right back. The video of Bradley Williams interview starts with him seated in the middle of the room and rubbing his face.

The sound is off for the first minute, and you can see prosecutor George DeBusk and Detective Alan Jones smiling about something. When Alan Jones turns the sound on, he's talking about having to read Bradley his Miranda. writes. He then plays the 911 call that Weldon made. During the playback, Bradley fidgets, covers his face, looks into the distance, swings left to right in his chair, and looks at the ceiling at various times. After the 911 call is over, Alan hits Bradley with a really hard question. Just kidding. Alan covers his face with both hands and mumbles out some words. All right, and that reporting, you're talking about the guy that pulled back up there that said he saw all of it. Can you describe that individual to me?

Alan asked a similar question of Weldon. Can you describe one of the witnesses we've already interviewed and gotten a statement from? Oh, good thing he read them those Miranda rights. Is this what they call entrapment? They're referring to witness number two, by the way. The guy from Virginia who told 9-1-1 that Scott told Weldon to stop following him and had his pistol by his side with the slide back when he saw Weldon unload his mag on Scott.

He was dropping the little toy of pickup truck. He pulled up and he was asking to go check on the guy. And we told him, no, don't do that. I guess it was wife or girlfriend. Patrick C. They said they saw, you know, everything was going on on the road and everything. What else do you want to know about them? Yeah, I just, you pretty much told me when I ain't know, everyone's in both to pick up.

Yeah. Alan closes his eyes and rubs his face while trying to think of the next question to fill the time. Okay. um when you guys initially saw this other vehicle and what have you what was tell me how that came to be was it did you know this individual in any way-shaped fashion for him okay all right what was your initial contact with him with him i mean it was it we left tractor supply and then we're going on the road and i look over and there's a

black truck and he's pointing to gun at me i asked what i'm like dude who's this all right and then he's hanging up on the driving erratic brake checking this um he tried to push us off the room dude this is all the earth place i mean there's at one point where he even stopped so hard i mean this truck's starting to slide a little bit you know like The weight coming off the weird. But I have no idea who he is. As Bradley is going through his answer to the most important question of how did this start, he seems to repeatedly look directly into the police camera that is set up on the desk across from him.

It's really interesting because he seems nervous, which is normal. But also sounds like he's taking off points to make. And I started to wonder if someone was sitting behind the camera, even though that would be impossible given the setup. At no point does Bradley say what he and Weldon did in response to those supposed actions of Scots. At no point did he give a timeline or more than one geographical marker of when and where things were happening. At no point does anyone in the room ask him to do that. And at no point does anyone ask Bradley,

Is that normally how you would react to seeing a random man point a gun at you on the highway? Dude, who's this? Again, Bradley's only geographical marker to his story is, quote, we pulled out of tractor supply. And I think that that could be significant because it seems to confirm that this is about where they encountered Scott, which raises a lot of questions then about why Weldon waited so long to call 911. Was it because he was angry that Scott had run him off the road? and that was the final straw? What were Weldon and Scott doing between the first alleged contact

in Weldon calling the police? Because again, it speaks to how they perceived the danger they were in, and the danger that Scott was allegedly causing. Additionally, as if Bradley seems to be saying the initial contact happened around when they pulled out of tractor supply, this could mean what we suspected to be true, that witness number one, Blaze Adrian, made an assumption that Scott's beef was with her when it was really with Weldon or possibly another driver. A real quick aside here for anyone who might be wondering why we're not just accepting Bradley's account at face value. Why are we picking it apart for signs of deception or sincerity? In recordings of Weldon talking to Bradley on the phone, it is clear that Bradley was taking

instruction from Weldon as they corroborated their stories. Bradley even deleted Facebook at Weldon's request. So we are looking at this interview with that in mind. Bradley has shown himself to be coachable. It doesn't necessarily mean that he's being deceptive in this interview. And we're certainly not experts in the field of body language analysis, but we're still going to point out moments that strike us in a certain way. And this is an odd thing.

Bradley repeated twice that he didn't know who Scott Spivey was. The second time was unprompted. And each time he did, he watched Alan Jones' face for a few beats longer than any other time in the interview. Which makes us wonder, at what point in time did Bradley not fully believe Weldon when Weldon said that he did not know who Scott Spivey was? In the days after the shooting, Weldon was certainly worried about the connection. In a phone call, he had even told his mother that if it turned out that Scott Spivey was related to Bingy Spivey, the man he accused his ex-Biancee of seeing, then he would be in trouble.

Anyway, Detective Alan Jones asked Bradley a third question about that evening. Bradley answers him after a big sigh. In the background, you can hear someone, and it's not clear who, actually chuckling. So right there, kind of walked me through exactly what happened right there on Camps home when you guys come off a nine. Okay, so... Let's see, the best I can remember, it ran this off the road, you know, and the truck fell

again, all of us went airborne. We're coming back onto the road, we see a white truck and the black truck turn on to that road, and then as we turn on that road, I'm going to stop you out real quick. The white truck was it in front of or behind the black truck? It was in front of it at that time. Okay. But once we turn on to that route, his truck's already stopped and he's getting out. So as y'all turn the corner, he's getting out of the vehicle?

Yeah, like we see his door come up and he's getting out. You see him do like some dramatic rack of the slide and then he like brings the gun up and then he just points him at us. Bradley pantomimes the same action that Weldon did in his interview. Remember, witness number two said he saw Scott with the gun down by his side and the slide back, yelling at Weldon to stop following him. As he passed Weldon's truck, witness number two saw Weldon unload his mag through his window and in a side view mirror, he saw Scott do something with his hand. But more than that, Weldon had told 911 that Scott had racked his gun on Highway 9. And if that's trill, then the gun didn't need to be racked again on Amp Swamp Road, and in fact wasn't, according to evidence found at the scene, which was a single spent cartridge under the driver's side tire of Scott's truck, a cartridge that could have fallen out of Scott's truck during or after the shooting, as it did with Weldon's, or it could have been placed there. We're not saying it was.

We're just saying the possibility exists. Right, um, once he shot two, you got a shot back, right? yes okay was there anything that you saw that indicated that at that point he'd been struck at that point he went back to his truck so I'm doing the best I can here I mean this I'm stressed the fuck out right now but we see him shoot and of course immediately we shoot back um he stumbles back to his truck and I mean I'm saying stumble I mean I don't mean like a slow wall but he ain't right you know um but we see him get back into the truck

meal wouldn't stop and then you can see like his head or whatever pop around in the truck and then you hear him shoot again um and then we shot back and maybe one or two rounds and I think he may have shot two or three rounds I'm not sure I can't If you weren't counting, I get it. No, I was not counting at all. But once he got in the truck, I mean, the truck was dark in the glass. I mean, I can't hear they tell, but you know it's shooting out of the truck. And as far as I know, I don't know what he's got in the truck.

Bradley doesn't just admit to being stressed out. He looks stressed out. Again, it makes sense. This is a serious situation. But the truth is the truth. and you remember it, how you remember it. So is Bradley stressed because he's afraid of misremembering what happened, or is he stressed because he's afraid of misremembering a sequence of events

that have been decided on while waiting for the detectives to come? When Weldon and Bradley should have been separated. Because again, what was in those Facebook messages that Weldon wanted to be deleted? Were they messaging each other at the scene? According to body camera and dash cam footage, both men were on their phones quite a bit while waiting for the detectives. Next in the interview, Detective Alan J. Jones narrates the official shooting story for Bradley.

Essentially, you guys are going down the highway, this dude pulls up the side of the point of gun at you and start break-checking you and all kinds of different crazy ways. Yeah. You guys go to follow him while you're talking 911 and turn and he stopped in the middle of the road. Um, was he standing in his truck door, did he advance you guys or how did that happen? He advanced.

stepped out and he walked towards us, like I said, with the exaggerated rack of the side and like this wide aim. But when he came across and he pointed and he shot him. In the background, Prosecutor Dylan Bagnell leans over to say something to prosecutor George DeBusk. It is not clear what they're talking about, but Dylan seems to use his hands to demonstrate the positioning of two objects. Whether that's people or trucks, it's hard to say. At this point, Detective Alan Jones asked Detective Mark Martin if there is anything that he would like to ask Bradley. No, Mark's got nothing for him.

He strolls away with his hands in his pockets. But George Debusk and Dylan Bagnall, they suddenly had questions. Mark, yeah, anything else. Tell me, he said when he turned, I can't swamp there's a white truck in time of it. Yeah. So is that the same truck? that stopped by with a man and woman or is it a different truck?

No, no, no, a different truck. Tell me about a light truck that was in front of him when he turned a cask. Okay, so during the process of this black truck, fucking loves. There's also a white toyer, the full-sized truck. I get to call him. Tundra. Tundra. Yeah, the full-side truck.

I've seen that he is racing up with the black truck, and as the black truck's switching lanes and all that stuff, he would either set back or he would catch back up. Did you get the impression they were together? It seemed that way, like they were trying to keep together, you know. Uh, it was to see who or how many people were in the white... There's one white dude. One white dude in white truck. Yep.

And nothing special up the trip. Older in York? Older in York? That was, uh, maybe mid-2000s. Yeah. Beat up, pristine? Not pristine. So it was the whole round body's style of Tundra.

Yeah, kind of rounded roundy headlights on it. 08, 07. Somewhere in a room. Okay, the way these guys can tell the age of pickup trucks just by mentioning their light shape, it's kind of impressive. I wonder why they didn't seem to follow up, though, and try to find that second-way truck that was on Highway 9 and turned on to Camp Swamp Road because that seems like something that could be pieced together with time

and diligence. Oh yeah. And a desire to get the answers and not fix an investigation from the very beginning to favor your friend. We'll talk more about Bradley's interview after a quick break. You can save that girl. On September 26th, experience what is being called the best movie of the year. This is at the end of the line. Not for you. Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Pan, Benicio del Toro, Tiana Taylor, Chase Infinity. Let's go!

Here I come! One battle after another. Only in theater September 26th. Experience it in IMAX. You came back. Williams interview with police. They continue to question him about seeing that mysterious white truck. Did you see anything about the plate? South Carolina plate? But you didn't get a number? No number. But I didn't notice the black truck had North Carolina plates. And towards the end of

all this going on, when he raced up beside us again to get next to the black truck, that's when I looked at the plates. Because I was curious that they were, you know, running together or Did you notice any broken glass or pants in the back of white's gone? No. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. More of the focus was on the black truck than the black truck. When you saw the black truck were there any bullet holes in one ship?

I didn't see the front of the truck. Oh, I thought you about seeing what I could say. I don't know. I mean, I've seen the front of the truck. driver door and then everything else was from the back. Yes, there we go. a direct and important question. No, because I mean, we just left track supply and we took a left.

Excuse you, I don't know, at least I always, you know, I'm not going to come around here, but took a left. We're in the left lane, the vast lane. But, I mean, we're just cruising along. I'm looking at the phone on the eye, and then I just look over, and like I said, the black truck speeds up past us, but when he comes up, he's pointing his gun. And I'm just like, what the bug? Where was the white cone? I didn't see the white truck tool. after he the black truck passed us and uh I mean it is after on some of the

brake checks and stuff it was just a white truck sped up really fast next to him and then during the traffic and all that stuff as everybody's bobbing and weaving you know black truck kind of gets behind then it speeds back up um like I said I wasn't really focused on the white truck that's just something I noticed No, we didn't cut him off because we took a left and I don't know these highways. I would have maybe believed Bradley had he just said no and left it at that, but that doesn't seem like a full answer to me. George DeBusk then asks Bradley another prosecutor-worthy question.

All right now, we're getting somewhere. Why don't you start you? Sir, why did y'all shut the start shooting? as he shot at us. I just wanted to say that actually. What shot first? And never mind. Oh my God.

The prosecutor, with a big grin on his face, just said he asked that question because he wanted Bradley to actually say who shot first. Hilarious, George. What a fun game. You see, the prosecutor was pretending that he was trying to ask a trick question of Bradley to catch him in a lie.

Not that he actually was doing that. Oh, and it brought a smile to Alan Jones' face, too. How lovely. George then raises a point that never seems to be revisited after this night. It's interesting. A bike truck. I never saw it again after it turned on the console. I don't know if you could hear that last part clearly,

but Alan Jones tells George, I got a theory on that I'll tell you about later. Nothing like seeing a detective, at a corrupt agency tell the prosecutor, I've got a theory, while they're conducting what amounts to be a pretend investigative interview with Bradley sitting right there. After this, all of the men in the room

sort of sit in an awkward silence, because again, this is clearly all designed to check a box and not actually accomplish anything. And then, Ken Moss asked his alleged client a question about whether he knows anything about Weldon, his ex-fiance, and a man named Spivey. Bradley says, not really. Then George DeBusk starts to half-heartedly

fire off a few final questions for good measure. Okay, I was saying, all right, so there's never come up constantly about that. This might be in similar life times. You live here, or you said, sir? You live here now, or you said? I live in Darwin. Donovan, so you're just visit.

Yeah, I came down to help welding. We went to a little bit of the farm. Sir? We went to school together. We went to a farm in the time together. That was back in 08. So I'm not a sudden doesn't it. You dance a tourist to Merle Beach and coach you. No, that's the happen in rural beach. Not even nine. That's wrong. I don't know. We've had more incidents I've never known. But yeah. Oh, yeah. That was your gun? Sir?

Where was your gun? In my back. My bag sits in my lap. So, and then once gun started to get falling around, not in my hand, but that's a little bit. If I'm outside of the truck, I'll put the holster on. But once I get in for comfort, it was slackened a bag. Bradley, possibly sensing that this interview,

had wrapped up a while ago, and they're all just trying to kill and pretend that they care about doing a good job here, seems a lot more relaxed now. But then, the most annoying part of this interview happens. George DeBusk, again, the prosecutor, has one last question, not for the investigation, but for funzies. What guy can you say it was?

What kind of good to say it was? It's a shadow system. Um, and that's tough, I ain't good. Is it high and good? It's fairly high in, yeah. Nice. Must be a physiologist. I love guns.

Good. And a good way. Legal way. Very legal way. I want to clear that name. Legal way. I got plenty of them. So I'm casting stones.

Listen to George de Busk trying to impress broadly, Williams. Sure. George might be wearing shorts and a windbreaker and sneakers that have a good arch. But George de Busk is also a man who owns guns. Then Ken Moss has a question for Alan. Jones. Is that still recording? Yes, sir.

I am concerned about the suppressor that is licensed to Weldon. Ah, amazing question. We were wondering about Weldon's suppressor and upper lower, whatever gun. Surely that would raise alarms if Weldon were any other person who had just shot and killed a citizen, right? I'm so surprised Ken Mosque is asking about this in this recorded forum. Yes. He told us that he had a suppressor. the truck the truck when it leaves that scene it has this tape on it yeah this

tape gets put on all the doors by our crime scene they sign it that truck is sealed that truck is followed all the way to orie county police impound by a law enforcement personnel they are led into that impound lot that truck is unloaded they are escorted out of that impound lot and everything's locked up in it where the steel is still in place shut up. This is about making sure that Weldon's gun doesn't get stolen. And Detective Alan Jones is assuaging Ken Moss's worry by talking about the escort, Weldon's truck will be getting to the impound lot. This is truly unbelievable. The gist of it is it's not technically evidence yet. It's in the truck.

Yeah. My concern is it's not a Weldon he's supposed to have under his permit. So I just want documented y'all have his truck. We have this truck. And he doesn't have the ability. We have his truck and he told us that he had the suppressor in there and it is in process. Because, you know, we're going to do a certain form of the process to be here. The truck is understeal and if it's placed in evidence, it will be sealed and placed in a secure custody.

Hopefully that'll answer for the other thing. I understand it is it wasn't involved in this instance. It wasn't. Nothing in place on anything. And he just, and he, well, the mate, you know, wanted to let us know that there was a suppressor in it and that he had his tax stamp for it.

I'm good with everything. Anything else you want to add to this point? Sir? Anything you want to add? It's not a vocabulary. Okay. Fair enough. Good deal.

It's really hard to tell who works for whom, right? were the detectives and prosecutors working for the state of South Carolina and in the best interests of the taxpayers who pay their salaries? Or were they working for Ken Moss? Because everything seems to have either been on Ken Moss's terms or done in a way to assure Ken Moss. We will talk more about Bradley Williams and everything that he stands to lose here

by sticking with Weldon in a future episode. Today we wanted to first show you how Bradley's interview with police was even more baffling than Weldon's. Why bother with these interviews at all? Oh right, Weldon and Bradley were lawyered up, but wanted to give the impression that they were cooperating with the police, who were, allegedly, helping fix the outcome of the investigation from the very beginning. What is so disappointing here is that Bradley is the only witness who actually saw everything. Had this been a real investigation, that would have meant something. But it wasn't. It was a poor excuse of an interview in an investigation to check boxes

of a file that they never thought anyone would care to look through. Yet here we are. Still with zero criminal charges for those involved, two officers lost their jobs, but they will likely land softly in another position if they haven't already. Because after all, this is Alan Wilson State. This is Henry McMaster State, the land of no consequences for the good old boys. The place where we can expose shocking corruption on a global scale, and those in power won't lift a finger to fix it unless it helps their bottom line, like the Murdoch case helped Alan Wilson. As we were finishing this episode, the U.S. Attorney's Office announced that they arrested Charleston County Magistrate Judge James Benjamin Gosnell Jr. for a

a charge of possession of child sex abuse material, which the U.S. government still calls child pornography. Gosnell, known for making several racist remarks and claiming that killer Dylan Roof's family were victims too, he should not have been an office in the first place. Gosnell's arrest is being blasted all over the internet and I keep seeing the same comment over and over again. What the hell is going on in South Carolina. First RJ May, now this. Welcome to the land of no consequences, where the most vile and corrupt among us get pushed to the top into positions of power. We will be looking into possible connections between Judge Gossnell and RJ May, other than the fact that they

were both South Carolina good old boys investigated by Homeland Security in the same year for very similar crimes. And we encourage anyone with inside information to email. us at info at lunasharkmedia.com. As always, stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. by Beth Braden. Audio production support provided by Jamie Hoffman, case file management, provided by Kate Thomas. Learn more about our mission and membership at LunaSharkmedia.com. Interruptions provided by Luna and Joe Pesky.