Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #129 - Blue Lights & Bright Spots: “Did Horry County Police Plant Drugs In Scott Spivey’s Truck?”
Episode Date: December 25, 2025Merry Christmas from True Sunlight! In this holiday edition, investigative journalist Mandy Matney shares unexpected jury duty experience in Beaufort County—complete with an awkward courthouse reuni...on with lawyer-lawmaker Todd Rutherford. Mandy reflects on the question that led to her dismissal as a juror… whether legitimate reasons exist to not stop for police lights, diving deep into the dangers of police pursuits and the corruption she's witnessed firsthand covering Low Country law enforcement. Then Mandy and Liz Farrell dive deep into how Horry County Police Department potentially planted a bag of steroids in Scott's truck to support Weldon Boyd's narrative that Scott was a "drug crazed, raging out of control maniac." And finally we’re expressing deep gratitude for the True Sunlight community—whose support helps hold public agencies and good ol boys accountable. We’re making the world a little brighter, one investigation at a time. So much to cover, so let’s dive in! 🥽🦈 Playlist link: https://staypes.ky/micafrancis Join the LUNASHARK® Premium Community and support independent journalism! Get 50% off our annual Soak Up the Sun membership through December 31, 2025 ☀️⭐☀️ *Be sure to choose the annual option to unlock the savings.* Leave A Review for Hulu's Original Series! “Murdaugh: Death in the Family” on IMDB ⭐ “Murdaugh: Death in the Family” on Rotten Tomatoes 🍿 Episode References Mandy’s Jury Duty Post - Instagram, Dec 17, 2025 🌐 “Hilton Head man was killed in crash after nearby police chase. Now his sister is suing” - The Island Packet, Updated June 3, 2021 📰 “Vehicular Pursuits” - Police Executive Research Forum, 2023 📘 Referenced Episode: MMP 90 🎧 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ Support Our Show, Sponsors and Mission: https://lunasharkmedia.com/support/ Quince - Hungry Root - Bombas https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email info@lunasharkmedia.com and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: lunashark.supercast.com Instagram.com/mandy_matney | Instagram.com/elizfarrell bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com | bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com TrueSunlight.com facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/ Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I don't know if ORI County police planted drugs in Scott Spivey's truck on the night of his death,
but after Liz Farrell took a closer look at the investigation,
we now know for certain that they had the means, the motive, and opportunity to do so.
So did they?
My name is Mandy Matney, and this is True Sunlight,
A podcast exposing crime and corruption, previously known as the Murdoch murders podcast.
True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production written with journalist Liz Farrell.
Well, Merry Christmas to my pesky people.
I'm feeling extremely grateful this Christmas, and it's mostly because of you all,
our amazing listeners who stuck with us through the ups and downs of this year,
who supported us through a dark time this past month and encouraging.
us to keep going. Those who joined us in taking a big collective sigh of relief in
celebration last week when we hit a major milestone with the highly anticipated indictment
of J.P. Miller. This podcast is a roller coaster, and I wouldn't want to be on this ride
with any other community. Your support helps us get the bad guys and hold them to account,
and I hope you all realize that you are listeners, and especially
our Lana Shark Premium members played a big role in making the world a little brighter this year.
And that is a big deal.
That said, I want to start the podcast today by sharing what I wrote for my intro last week
before the indictment came in and we had to completely redo the episode.
I had the great displeasure of being called to jury duty in Beaufort County, South Carolina
last week.
And I need to tell y'all, I was reminded yet again how the work we do,
to educate as many people as we can on the justice system is so important.
And yes, much to my surprise because I thought for sure I was on the do-not-call list
of the 14th Circuit given the fact that I have been one of Duffy Stone's loudest critics
for over four years now.
I was in fact called to serve the justice system this last week.
And as rotten as I think our entire system is, I still showed up because I do believe
in the process and I believe in following the rules, as long as the rules don't hurt anyone.
Also, my sweet husband David came to the courthouse with me, since my stalkers are apparently
now active again, and I don't go anywhere, especially to the heart of low country corruption alone.
The Beaufort County Courthouse was exactly how I remembered it from my reporter days,
like a haunted house of corruption. This was the courthouse where I first saw.
locked eyes with Elic Murdoch in 2019 during Paul's boat crash hearing. This is the first and last
place I saw Maggie and Paul Murdoch. This courthouse is where I learned how to really report on the
legal system here. So of course, it did not take me long to see a familiar face that I absolutely
did not want to see on a Monday morning. As I walked to the restroom, I saw Representative Todd Rutherford.
Of course, in his platform sneakers shoes that appear to make him a couple inches taller,
pacing around the hallway as his client sat on the bench.
Of course, he was the defense attorney on the first case of the docket for that week.
Todd Rutherford, you know, Russell Lafitte's attorney who infamously embraced Elyke Murdoch in court
after he was convicted of murdering his wife and son.
And that reminds me, we should talk about Todd and how,
Seeing him reminded me of the positive impact that our podcast have made on the justice system.
Y'all first heard about Todd Rutherford, who has been a lawmaker since the 90s, by the way.
In Murdoch Murder's podcast, Episode 90, when we exposed the egregious secret deal that he landed
with a retiring judge, Judge Manning, to get his convicted murderer client Gerard Price out of prison
30 years before his sentence was up for no reason. Gerard. Gerard was known for quote-unquote
running South Carolina prisons and was apparently so powerful and so dangerous behind bars
that they sent him out of state before one day Representative Rutherford managed to get
Judge Manning and solicitor Byron Gibson in a closed-door meeting that granted Gerard's early
and a legal prison release.
State leaders who are very used to seeing egregious corruption in our legal system,
well, they were even horrified by this deal.
And ultimately, they called a hearing to get Price back in prison.
They spent thousands of dollars in tax money on super embarrassing billboards
that should have said, have you seen this prisoner?
Three state officials helped him escape and we need your help finding him.
Eventually, Gerard Price was recaptured and sent back to prison, but the price debacle,
which we dubbed as the boat crash for South Carolina lawyer legislators, opened up a colossal can
of worms on state reps like Todd, using their poll as voting members of the commission that
selects judges, the JMSC, to inappropriately influence judges to work in favor of their clients.
After the Price debacle, Governor McMaster called for a review of similar cases with secret release orders.
And surprise, surprise, Price was not the first client of Rutherford's, whose sentencing appeared to be illegally reduced by judges quietly, who likely wanted to stay on Todd's good side.
I didn't realize this until this week, but Todd Rutherford was quietly removed from the JMSC this summer.
And y'all, that is a big deal and a huge step in the right direction.
There are still lawyer lawmakers on the committee that selects our judges.
However, it is a big deal to see a powerful lawyer, like Todd Rutherford, get the boot.
It's a real kick in the knees for a lawyer like Todd,
who has used his influence over judges to build his private law practice for literally years.
However, Todd is unfortunately still a state representative who holds more influence and more sway than the rest of us on electing judges.
And it's unfortunate, in my opinion, that he is still a state representative, especially after he was exposed by the state newspaper in 2021 for using the private state plane to literally woo his girlfriend as they travel to luxury resorts on the taxpayers' dime.
Again, South Carolina is the land of no consequences for powerful men like Todd Rutherford.
So it is in fact a big deal that he did get some of his power taken away this year.
And I am proud that our team has helped expose him.
So back to jury duty.
Todd was not happy to see me or David, and I was not happy to see him.
I thought for sure I could be dismissed immediately, but no.
Todd's case ended up in a plea deal.
His client got 10 years for armed robbery.
I could have an entire show about how outdated and offensive the process of jury selection
is in South Carolina, but I will spare y'all from my whining.
The first day literally could have been an online survey that could have saved hundreds
of people, time, and money.
But no, we just had to waste several hours on hearing hundreds.
of people stand up individually and state their occupations and their spouse's occupations.
Day two of jury duty was much better.
The first case involved a man who was accused of fleeing police before causing a deadly car crash.
Ultimately, he ended up pleading guilty after a jury was seated and he received 20 years
in prison.
But that part isn't what I really want to talk about.
What struck me was what I learned about my peers in the jury selection process for this
case. The Lunar Shark team did an amazing two-part premium dive series into the process of
jury duty that y'all should definitely listen to. But basically, in South Carolina, the judge
asked the jury pool a series of questions, and in this case, when you answer yes to one of those
questions you go to speak to the judge and chat it out before he decides to dismiss you or not.
In this case, the judge at first asked a bunch of questions that did not apply to me. Like, do you
family members who have been in a serious car accident, or do you personally know any of the witnesses
or attorneys in this case? Only a few people stood up. Then he asked,
Does anyone believe there are legitimate reasons for not stopping for blue lights, like when you're
pulled over? I swear you could have heard a pin drop, and no one in the pool of over a hundred
people moved. He then repeated the question, and y'all, for a minute, I hesitated to stand up
because I thought that I misunderstood the question considering the fact that no one else was standing up.
The person I was seven years ago before the Murdoch mess would have remained seated simply because nobody else stood up.
But after listening to the judge's question again, I sprung up in the sea of jurors
and bounced to the judge in my pink fluffy coat to politely explain how my reporting on police corruption as a journalist,
particularly focusing on corruption in the 14th Circuit has provided me a laundry list of reasons
to not stop for blue lights. Starting with the fact that the same solicitor's office who was
prosecuting this case, the 14th Circuit, actually provided Elic Murdoch with a badge in blue lights
not too long ago, and they were never held accountable for giving him that unchecked power.
As a reporter, I carry with me over decades of stories that I have reported on that I can't shake.
Many, many of those involved police officers assaulting women and people of color.
As you all know from the Scott Spivey case, we have caught police officers on numerous occasions
and dirty and despicable cover-ups that require those with only the moral backbone of a snake to participate.
I have read thousands of police reports and watched hundreds of body cam videos, so many to the point that I am honestly surprised when the police officer accurately describes what happened without inserting lies and intentional bias.
Liz and I were once tailed by a highway patrol car while investigating the Stephen Smith case in 2019, and it scared us to the point that we called our Beaufort County cop friend and he told us to stay on the phone until we crossed the
county line. There are millions of reasons I could give for hesitating to stop for blue lights.
And by the way, that does not mean that I would start a police chase. But unfortunately,
there aren't many safe alternatives for what to do besides slowing down, turning on your
hazards to acknowledge the blue lights, and calling 911 to see if you could meet at a police
station or in a well-lit area. But in jury duty, all I could tell the judge in that moment was
that I was a journalist who knew entirely too much about how deep the corruption is in the
low country and that would obviously affect my bias in the case.
Judge Bonds then dismissed me from the case and then asked another question,
does anyone have strong feelings about the dangers of police pursuits? Granted, everyone who had
been dismissed like me at that point did not have to stand up, but there were still over
100 people in the pool, I would guess at that point, and not one person stood up.
I was slightly upset that I was dismissed already because I really love educating people
on the dangers of police pursuits. But I was more upset that no one stood up in that moment,
either because they weren't educated on the dangers of police pursuits. They simply didn't care,
or they were afraid of standing up and rocking the boat. So, I want to take a moment to remind you
about the dangers of police pursuits and encourage everyone to demand change in their local jurisdictions
to alter their police policies to limit the reasons that officers can initiate a police pursuit
for only violent crimes and serious threats to the community. One case on the roster during my
jury duty service was a tragic one from March 2020. Also, tragic that Duffy Stone's office took
five years to bring this case to trial. A man named Esteban Javier Rosa Mendes did not stop
when a Beaufort County Sheriff's Office deputy tried to pull him over for speeding. According to an
article in the island packet, the deputy gave chase at 7.42 p.m. and 34 seconds. After about 30 seconds,
the deputy stopped the pursuit, but Rosa Mendes continued on at high rates of speed.
Two and a half minutes later, at 7.45 p.m., Rosa Mendes failed to stop at a red light and drove into an intersection, traveling about 80 miles per hour, where he struck the side of a car driven by 22-year-old Colton Poirot. I don't know the reasons why this man didn't stop for blue lights, but I do know it is inexcusable to accelerate to 80 miles per hour in a 45-mile-per-hour zone and endangered bystandards, and it is
absolutely tragic that Colton lost his life so young. Colton's sister filed wrongful death
lawsuits against the Beaufort County Sheriff's Office, but a judge ruled in the Sheriff's Office
favor, dismissing the suit in 2022 due to how the deputy's 32nd pursuit was determined not to be
a proximate cause of the fatality because it was terminated two miles away from the crash site.
However, and this is a big however, what are we doing with police chases?
This would have been a dang speeding ticket.
We have the technology for police officers to clock that ticket and license
and hold that driver accountable by sending a ticket in the mail.
In my opinion, an innocent man lost his life
because of both the deputy engaging in a dangerous pursuit
and Rosa Mendes' reckless behavior.
In this type of thinking is probably why I'll never be selected for a criminal jury.
Why shouldn't the officer be held accountable for causing a dangerous situation in the first place?
Officers, pulling people over for speeding, are supposed to be doing that with the intention of making our roads safer.
Initiating dangerous police pursuits for traffic violations is actually doing the exact opposite.
According to a 2023 report by the Police Executive Research Forum,
More than 90% of police pursuits are initiated because of traffic violations or minor violations.
So if you're sitting there thinking people must be fleeing because they have committed a serious crime,
research actually shows the exact opposite.
90% of these chases could have been an email or a ticket in the mail.
And from my experience, reporting on police chases, particularly foying police radio recordings,
to see how exactly these police pursuits actually start.
I believe that a good majority of these stops are initiated by police officers
with an ego problem and a power complex.
They get offended when their magical blue lights don't immediately force people under their control,
and their lizard brains kick in,
and suddenly, in a few moments, they go from pulling someone over
for endangering the community for speeding,
Two, endangering the community because someone wouldn't pull over.
Again, police pursuits are dangerous.
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,
more than one person every day in the United States dies from a police pursuit,
and that number is increasing.
525 people were killed in 2021 and 545 people were killed in 2020 from police pursuits.
That is far too many, especially when 90% of them are for minor violations.
More so, the consequences for initiating these dangerous police pursuits are much more likely
to fall on the citizens than they are to fall on the cops.
A study from law enforcement management and administrative statistics
found that more than 20% of people injured or killed in police pursuits were bystanders
that had nothing to do with the chases at all.
Even more shocking, only 3% of those killed or injured
in police chases are police officers.
So it kind of makes sense why police haven't bothered
to change their ways for initiating police pursuits.
That is all to say.
I hope you now have strong feelings
about the dangers of police pursuits if you are ever asked.
People should not die over speeding
Colton should be alive today if our system wasn't so broken and corrupt, and my heart
goes out to his family.
I hope they find peace after last week's sentence, and I hope all of us are encouraged to
advocate for change when it comes to police pursuits and to stand up and say something
when no one else will.
And speaking of police corruption, after a quick break, we're going to dive back into the
Spivey case.
We'll be right back.
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Okay, let's talk about the Scott Spivey case,
specifically about an element of the investigation
that we hope special prosecutor Barry Barnett is looking into.
And that's how the Orly County Police Department
had the means, motive, and opportunity
to plant a bag of steroids in Scott Spivey's truck
to help make it look like Scott was a drug-crazed,
raging, out-of-control maniac on the day he was killed
by North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Boyd and his friend Bradley Williams.
This potentially police orchestrated depiction of Scott would not only make Weldon's and Bradley's side of the story more believable,
that Scott, for no reason whatsoever, was randomly pointing his gun at strangers on Highway 9 in South Carolina,
and for no reason whatsoever tried to run innocent couch-trailering Weldon off the road,
it would also paint Scott as a broader threat to the community,
A threat that needed to be stopped by two wannabe good guys with guns.
Enter the citizen's arrest law.
Which, as you all know, the Attorney General's office is using to justify its decision
on not charging Weldon or Bradley and Scott's killing back in 2024.
Even though neither Weldon nor Bradley have ever claimed they were trying to citizens arrest Scott.
Anyway, Scott is not here to tell his story, including how this road battle began.
But with that bag of steroids, Ory County Police and South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson don't need to consider what his side might be.
To them, that bag of drugs is Scott's side, full stop.
They have made that his side.
And this is important because apparently to the minds of the police and Alan Wilson, this alleged bag of drugs found in Scott's truck absolves them of having to analyze Weldon's and Bradley's story and determine the credibility of it.
They don't have to do additional math on Weldon and Bradley as long as they have that bag of drugs.
Their equation is simple.
Steroid user leaves a sports bar and goes bonkers on a man who is trailering couches,
and the police have vouched for the couch man,
and witnesses, at least at first glance, appear to support the couchman's story.
As we've shown you over the past 10 months, that police and prosecutorial equation falls apart within minutes of action.
looking at the evidence and what the witnesses actually said versus what police wrote down in their reports.
It falls apart within minutes of police officer Damon Viscovy,
arriving on the scene and showing Weldon a handwritten note that instructs him to act like a victim.
It falls apart during Weldon's recorded phone calls with Deputy Police Chief Brandon Strickland,
who told Weldon he was working in the shadows for him.
It falls apart any time Weldon opens his mouth,
but especially when he admits in a recorded call with his mother to chasing Scott and intentionally terrorizing him.
And yet, the police and the state attorney general's office refuse to see that.
They'd rather gaslight you all into thinking that your ill-informed nuisances guided by misinformation put out there by bloggers and podcasters,
which has become good old boy code for Mandy and Liz are on to us.
They don't want us to put any significance on the fact that Scott's alleged erratic driving didn't appear,
to start until Weldon, a guy who seemed ready and waiting for a gunfight at any minute,
pulled onto the road in his giant souped-up truck. After he had spent the afternoon stewing
about his pregnant ex-fiancee showing up to his aunt's house with a man, which didn't happen,
to return the car and engagement ring that Weldon had given her. The police and Alan Wilson
don't seem to put any value on Weldon's state of mind at the time at all. Because just minutes
before pulling onto the road with Scott, Weldon had hastily put the engagement ring up for sale
on Facebook and was texting with a friend about the breakup. In fact, for three minutes prior to Scott
passing Bell and Bell car dealership on Highway 9, right near where Weldon joined him on the road,
Weldon was texting back and forth with a woman named Diane. Here's David with the last text
Weldon sent to Diane, just 55 seconds before Scott crossed his path. We've taken people's names out of this message
to protect their privacy, and we replace them with common nouns.
My ex-fiance had to deliver the car and ring to the church at one today.
My family went at 1.30 to pick it up, and my ex-fiance pulled up across the street and watched
them. She had a guy with her, we think, driving, her sister in the back seat.
That's a pretty good indicator of what was on his mind at the time, right?
his pregnant ex-fiance had the nerve to disrespect him by allegedly bringing a man with her
to return his big ticket gifts to her.
Anyway, the next three texts from Diane went unanswered, David.
Text one. Good. Screw her. Text two. Who is she dating? Text three. Did you have Diamond checked?
51 seconds after Diane texted that last message to Weldon,
witness number one, Blaze Ward, called 911 to report Scott for waving a gun at people.
Based on Blaze's lack of credibility when it comes to narrating what's happening in real time,
we believe that she perceived Scott's actions as being directed toward her instead of Weldon.
30 seconds later, Blaze told 911 that Scott had made Weldon run off the road.
Not that he ran Weldon off the road, but he caused him to run off the road,
is an important distinction because according to Weldon, Scott had been breakchecking him,
which is something a person does to stop the person behind them from driving so closely on their
bumper. We believe Weldon was driving so close to Scott's tail that one of the times Scott
break checked him, caused him to have to drive into the median to avoid hitting him. That said,
look at that little time frame there and what we know happened during it. That is just a tiny,
unfurled moment in time. That's what analysis looks like.
Weldon says he was the victim in this, because, to qualify for stand-your-ground immunity,
Weldon can't have brought the harm upon himself.
All the police have is Weldon's word on that, that he didn't start this.
That Scott was a menace to everyone that day, which again only becomes a credible theory
with that bag of steroids.
But what happens if that bag of steroids that allegedly belonged to Scott didn't exist
prior to Ory County Police Department's investigation the night of September 9th, 23?
Last week, we told you about South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson
and how he went on his cousin's political podcast to double down so many times on his decision
not to charge Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams that he actually broke the world's biggest
dummies association world record in the 45 to 55-year-old white male category for
digging their heels in.
I know we already shared a bunch of his horrifying quotes from the podcast, but there's more.
and they're especially relevant for this episode.
I'll have David read a roundup from Alan Wilson's conversation
with his cousin Joel Wilson from December 5th, starting with this.
I've had to make tough decisions as attorney general,
and sometimes you have to do the right thing, even at political cost.
Hold up.
Sometimes you have to do the right thing even on political cost?
No, Alan.
you always have to do the right thing, even at political cost,
and how dare you act like you're doing the right thing in this case?
I'm sorry, y'all.
I'm fired up about this.
What Alan doesn't seem to realize is that we're all on to him,
and the things he's been saying about the spivey case
and how he's had to, you know, stick to the law and the facts,
and that's why he cannot charge Weldon and Bradley.
Well, it very obviously reveals he didn't look at the facts,
or doesn't understand the facts,
or is purposely looking at the facts through a stack of Palmetto State Armory receipts maybe.
You know, his family's guns store chain where Weldon and Bradley went the morning after killing Scott
to restock the pistols the police took from them the night before in the investigation.
In order to base something on the facts, you have to demonstrate that you know the facts.
For instance, if you tell people your favorite movie is Elf and that your favorite part is when he's on the shelf,
people are going to know that you are full of it.
It's immediately apparent to anyone who has watched Elf.
So you've given yourself away, Alan.
You didn't watch the Spivey Investigation movie, and we can all see it.
Okay, sorry, David.
What else did Alan say?
So I wanted to preface that first.
The second thing I want to preface, before I address your question,
is there's still an ongoing civil case involving this matter.
And so I don't want to get two in the weeds.
And I don't want to litigate this thing on this.
but there's there's a time for me to do that correct but obviously last month as
everyone knows who follows this last year when we when my office made the decision I was
not the one that made the initial decision three three attorneys reviewed this
thing in the prosecutor's office so it's not Alan Wilson by himself making
decisions basically he's saying that he stands by his decision that he did not
make alone, which I'm not a political consultant, but I've heard that people like candidates who are
willing to take full responsibility for the decisions that come out of the offices they were elected
to. It astounds me that he said this because either he's saying, hey guys, don't worry, I made sure
to shop this around because you know how people can't trust my solo decisions. Or he's saying,
the buck definitely doesn't stop with me, so stop looking at me when you talk about the spivey case.
Okay, two more things before we get into the steroid's investigation.
David, tell us what Alan said about evidence and the Roershack test.
You know, people are out there saying he chased him down and shot him in the back.
These things are not true.
Now, reasonable people, you've heard of a Roershack.
Yes, Roershack test.
That's like an inkblot.
And one person looks at it, and based on what's going on in their brain, they see a butterfly.
Another person looks on it, and they see a starfish or something.
They see a cloud.
Some people can look at the same thing, right?
And they can look at it from different angles and they can have different perspectives.
And that's probably what's happening here.
Alan is so right about that, guys.
Because when Weldon told his mother that he was on Scott's ass and knew that Scott was terrified,
and when he lied to police about the reason he turned on to Camp Swamp Road,
the road that Scott needed to take to go home but that Weldon had no reason to be on,
beyond chasing Scott, we were seeing ink blots of guilty butterflies that Alan says our innocent
starfish. When we saw hard evidence of Ori County police officers immediately working in service
of Weldon escaping charges, and when we saw a growing list of anomalies in that investigation,
we were seeing clouds shaped like justice. And Alan was seeing clouds shaped like voting precincts
where he needs police to turn up in droves on his behalf. Which brings me to the fun
Here's David with what Alan Wilson said to his cousin on that podcast.
Our decision to apply the Stand Your Ground standard was based on the facts that we got from an investigation conducted by the Ory County Police Department.
Okay, now I know that a lot, there are a lot of critics out there regarding the Ory County Police Department.
There are a lot of allegations about the Ory County Police Department.
Our decisions were based on evidence collected from that investigation.
Our decision was made based on that evidence.
There must be a body under every single bus in South Carolina because of Alan Wilson.
He is throwing them under there.
So there was a lot to unpack there.
One is that I cannot believe that the state attorney general on December 5th, 2025,
is referring to the massive corruption case involving the Spivey investigation and or a county police department
already resulting in at least two long-time officers losing their jobs that we know of as a matter of there being critics.
Critics? Is that why you call people calling out very serious issues with what is supposed to be a trusted public agency staffed by people who can take away your freedom
and are legally allowed to kill you under many circumstances? Critics. What is this to you, Alan? Just unsolicited.
feedback. A deputy chief of police is on several recordings assuring Weldon Boyd that everything
is going to be okay because his agency was doing everything that needed to be done to make it okay.
The solicitor is involved. A magistrate judge's name is mentioned. A state legislator's name is
mentioned. If Alan thinks that everything that has been uncovered so far in the Scotsby
case about Orie County Police is criticism, then he's going to love the rest of this episode. More
feedback coming your way, boys. Second, again, Alan is corkscrewing his way down an escape path here. He is
threading a very tiny needle. My office made the final decision, he said, but it wasn't just me.
Other people made the decision, too, and we didn't actually look at the evidence that we told you
we thoroughly examined. We looked at the evidence given to us by police, which, by the way,
is what the bloggers and podcasters have been saying all alone. Alan went on to tell his cousin
that this was why he has Seventh Circuit Solicitor Barry Barnett looking at the case.
Alan said Barry is looking at the investigation into the police and not the spy v. shooting itself,
but he will look into the spy v. shooting if he determines there is new information or if the police investigation turns up corruption.
In other words, instead of there being an honest from scratch look into this case,
this guy, Barry is supposed to be first determining if Alan, sorry, not Alan, but Allen and company because he didn't make this decision alone, guys, if they were misled by police.
literally, what does it take to get these guys to listen?
Okay, let's talk about steroids.
Here is how one man, driving by Scott, immediately after he was killed, describes Scott.
Now, we've played this for you before, so this is just a refresher.
Yeah, something doesn't look right over on Camp Swamp Road off of Highway 9, Morris.
Did somebody call that in already?
Yes, we do have a call in for that location.
Was there anything that you saw that?
you'd like to share to ask his call?
I didn't, but
the person in the
the truck in the front
don't look alive.
Which truck are you talking about?
Is the white truck or a black truck?
Black truck in front.
She had a green shirt. I think it was a girl.
Back truck was a white
Dodge Rebel,
I want to say, with a trailer on it.
And it looks like they
exchanged fire. The person
in the black truck does not look alive.
I didn't see any blood or anything,
but she's sitting in the driver's seat,
the head in the passenger seat.
She. He called Scott a she,
because what he saw was a more petite figure,
and he assumed it was a woman.
Now, I've seen some steroid users in my time.
Not one of them would ever be mistaken for a woman, not one.
Scott Spivey was 5'9,
and his driver's license doesn't include his weight,
but his autopsy notes that he was around 180 pounds at the time of his death.
His sister, Jennifer Spivey Foley, says that Scott was working out at the time of his death,
but confirmed that he did not have the physique of a steroid user.
He did not have acne or any of the other physical side effects one would expect to see
with someone using steroids to heighten performance in the gym.
Which brings us to the toxicology report.
The report noted the presence of testosterone,
but made a point to say that this test does not distinguish
between synthetic testosterone, i.e. steroid use, a naturally occurring testosterone.
Scott's testosterone level was 410 nanograms per decilator. The normal range is considered
between 300 nanograms per decilator to 1,000 nanograms per decilator. So Scott's level appears
to be on the lower end, right? Now, Wellenstein would probably tell you that the toxicology
astronauts that Scott's urine was diluted at the time of the test, and that another test would have been
recommended. According to a quick search online, the best way to test whether someone is
using testosterone is through a blood test, which was not done here, despite Scott's blood
having been drawn. Why wouldn't police have wanted the most accurate look into whether Scott was
on steroids at the time of his death? Gee, I can think of some reasons. Ambiguity is a friend
to the defense, remember? Now, we've done a little of this before, but I want to quickly go over the
full timeline of when Weldon learned that steroids might be in play here and what that
looked like from his inner world. Here's Weldon's mother on the night of Scott's killing around
1030 p.m. after Weldon was questioned by investigators and I use the word questioned very loosely there.
Well, Brandon said that he's talked around and people said that this guy has a terrible temper and when he
gets mad, he goes crazy.
Well, he's dead now.
But he had to have a problem before he caught up.
Now, is that Brandon Strickland that Weldon's mom is referring to or another Brandon?
Stick a pin in that one, okay?
Next we have Brandon Strickland talking to Weldon at 859 the next morning.
Well, I'll tell you what I was told.
Well, what I heard not from my people, but from somebody else who knew.
this guy was. He says he
must have been a pretty big dude because he said
he was royd. He was on royd
or bad. He might have been having a fucking
some royd raid shit.
Well, hopefully
they do a talk screen on them.
Yeah, they will.
After that call, Weldon talked to
his mama at 1025
that morning.
Brandon says he's known to have a steroid
problem
and he's hoping that when they do
the talk screen today,
that they're going to see steroids in his system and say that he was on a steroid rage.
And that's what it does, too.
Steroids can make you go, I mean, they can make you very angry.
After that, at 1038 that morning, Weldon spoke with a friend named Porter.
I don't either.
Some people I know do know him, and they all say he had a bad anger problem,
and the police believe he has a steroid problem.
I mean, he was out to kill somebody, I think.
And he was by himself?
By himself.
Big old boy.
Here he is, less than two hours later, talking to an unidentified woman who tells him that someone told her that Scott had done steroids eight or nine years ago.
You know, he was just different.
But he said Mary Grace told me he did steroids.
She dated him a year or nine years ago.
And she told me, let's just get our heads off of that shit.
stop at my house.
If you're out of
steroids,
I don't want to
go sit at the house
to stare at
say that again.
I said
steroids will make
them off of that
crazy jug,
you know what
yeah,
but we got to be
able to prove that.
Do you know?
Uh,
hopefully the top screen
will show alcohol
or steroids or something.
If they see him
to the,
um,
all right,
right,
I don't know.
One,
seven,
one.
One.
Come on.
Here's Weldon the next evening, speaking with a man named Scott.
What's his motive? Was he just crazy?
The dude has a steroid problem and a history of battery and anger.
So that's what we're working on now.
Working on, huh, what an interesting word there.
Here is Weldon, three days after Scott's death,
talking to his friend Brandon, who owns an ice cream shop,
and who says his sister, new people.
people who knew Scott. This could also be the Brandon that Weldon's mother was referring to in the
first phone call. This conversation starts out with Brandon asking Weldon about the rumor that Scott Spivey
was connected to his ex-fiancee in some way. Yeah, the detectives are going to try and I talked to him
this morning. He knows that's an issue. He knows it's hurting me. He said that he's going to try and get
that squashed out today. But they're doing the autopsy on him today. And
And Ken's hoping that something's going to come back in his system because of the way he was acting.
And apparently there's, I mean, there's people that are saying he's got bad steroid problems.
I'd also like to mention here, we have what police say are all of Weldon's calls and messages.
Maybe all of those people that he's referring to who were confirming his assertion.
that Scott was on steroids, each visited him in person to say that, because we don't see that
anywhere other than the messages that we're sharing today. The only person who has mentioned
steroid usage to Weldon in this case file is, in fact, Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland. Anyway,
here is Weldon right after that call, talking to the estranged wife of the man he was
accusing his pregnant fiancé of dating, a man named Ben Spivey.
But other than that, this dude's got a history of steroid problems.
They're doing the autopsy today in a top screen.
We're hoping that something was in a system.
Here is Weldon talking to his friend Diane 45 minutes later.
But I mean, you know, the guy, he was a clean-cut looking guy.
I mean, he's young, but everybody that we've talked to that knows him or knows his family
We have all said the same thing.
The guy had horrible anger issues, steroid problems, and was an extremely arrogant person.
I read where he's a big volunteer for the young boys in baseball and football,
and everyone saying shit to his sister, how he'll be pissed.
It just was just Mr. Whatever. Wonderful.
Yeah, well, I hope they can find a new person to coach that team because he's not here.
The cruelty of that conversation is unreal.
Here is Weldon on the phone with his parents later that evening.
Ken said in this kind of situation, alcohol is not going to help our argument.
Ken said alcohol won't really, I forgot how he worded it,
but in this situation, the alcohol isn't going to be hard-hitting.
He said, we need narcotics or we need steroids.
Yeah, and I don't think alcohol would make you a great.
That's why Ken said that alcohol isn't going to be something that helps you.
Shortly after that, Weldon tells his parents he had a damn blast, and then he burped.
Now, let's talk about what the coroner's investigation said.
Here is David.
Toxicology report shows alcohol was present in system at time of injury.
Exact BAC unknown.
No evidence of drug use.
There you go.
No evidence of drug use.
Exact BAC unknown.
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Now, Scott was drinking for about five hours prior to encountering Weldon and Bradley on Highway 9,
but the Oriakami police only included the last hour and half of surveillance video showing Scott at the bar.
His receipt included seven Miller lights and eight shots of fireball.
But hold on, hold on a second there.
The receipt shows that three of those shots were purchased.
altogether at one time and four were purchased altogether at another time. And just one was purchased
by itself. We know from the video that Scott was buying shots for people he was talking to at the bar.
So a possible assumption is that three of the shots were consumed by Scott and the rest of them
were consumed by others. While there, Scott ate a spicy tuna roll and about 45 minutes before
he left, he had a cheeseburger with homemade chips. According to the video we have, Scott was also
eating shelled peanuts from a big bucket on the bar.
It's obviously impossible for us to know Scott's BAC at this point,
but given his weight and his consumption over five hours of food and alcohol,
the internet estimates that his BAC was likely around 0.08,
which is right at the legal limit.
Again, you heard it from Weldon, who heard it from his lawyer, Ken Moss.
Alcohol would not be enough to paint a picture of Scott being a maniac.
So, and again, you heard it from Weldon,
they were working on the steroids theory.
But Scott's toxicology showed no such thing, which is interesting, because at 10.9 a.m., on September 10, 2023, in the ORI County Police impound lot,
ORI County investigators discovered a plastic bag filled with 26 bright blue capsules.
On September 27, 2023, a chemist with the Ory County Forensics Lab, tested the pills and reported that the capsules were methamdanone or anabolic steroids.
Back to our original question of whether it's possible that these pills were planted in Scott's truck.
We're going to talk more about what happened between the time Weldon Boyd called Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland from the scene that evening and 109 a.m. September 10th, when those pictures were taken.
But for now, we want you to ponder this, because we see a lot of this from good old boys.
When the facts are not on their side, they don't care about whether they're actually able to prove something 100%.
They just need to push people in the direction of their truth.
Scott's toxicology report came back clean for meth and dionone, and all drugs, actually.
So he wasn't on the drug as Ori County Police, Attorney General Alan Wilson, Weldon Boyd,
and his attorney Ken Moss appeared to whoever wanted him to be.
But finding a bag of steroids was clearly enough.
It was enough to put that in the report given to Alan, his crack team of police pleasers,
over at the AG's office, which made it enough for Allen and company to ignore the rest of the story.
The water was muddied. The well was poisoned. The beach was closed due to sewage in the water.
And that is why we're all here today. Standing side by side with Jennifer Spivey Foley,
whose devotion to her brother and to the truth of what happened to him continues to not only expose
police corruption and prosecutorial cowardice, it has brought the state of South Carolina to a day of reckoning.
A stand-your-ground hearing will be held on February 17th in Ory County in Jennifer's wrongful death lawsuit against Weldon Boyd and Bradley Williams.
And Judge Bubba Griffith will decide whether South Carolina is a state where you run the risk of being legally killed by a good old boy with police backing for whatever reason the good old boy says.
On Tuesday, Luna Shark researcher and reporter Beth Braden spoke with Jennifer about the insidious absurdity of this bag of steroids and why she believes police might have planted them.
as her attorney Mark Tinsley has already suggested in court.
For one, all of the body cameras went off around the same time at the crime scene.
So there is no, other than the last time Carrie Higgs camera was on Scott's truck, it looked like 618 or whatever,
that's the last time Scott's truck has a camera on it until it rolls off the lot.
Why does Vice show it? Why does street crimes show up? They're not called.
That's all we have.
When Vascovy towed Scott's truck, when he pulls into the impound lot, he specifically turns his truck so it does not face it.
It does not face Scott's truck.
Like I said, there is so much to share with y'all.
Why does the Vice Squad haul ass from the other side of the county to get to the crime scene?
And why are there people on the scene who never sign in with dispatch?
Oh, and why oh why did they tow Scott's truck to the impound lot with Scott's body in it?
There's just a lot of things that we, I mean, there's just no way to prove that they are his
because you can't prove that they're not.
Just like they took those clips out of Scott's truck and they didn't want to give them back
to me because they said I couldn't prove that they were his.
I can't prove that the clips that you took out of his truck are his.
Why are you telling me that the drugs you found in his truck are his?
That is a great question, and I think it's a very safe bet to say that it is not a piece of logic that has crossed the minds of any investigators or prosecutors.
Alan Wilson never mentioned Scott's alleged steroid use in his interview with his cousin, but it is a pretty big part of the underlying argument as to why no charges were filed against Weldon or Bradley.
Because again, that bag of bright blue pills is just enough to give police something to lean on
when accounting for what Weldon says Scott's behavior was that evening.
It keeps the prosecutor's office from digging too deeply with the evidence.
And it allows Weldon Boyd enough extra spice for his hyperbole.
You know, he says Scott was a maniac.
He was on drugs.
They found drugs in the truck.
He started this with us.
I don't know why. Maybe the drugs? All the witnesses agree with everything I'm saying.
That's my Weldon voice. So yes, spend one minute in the Spivey case file and it all falls apart.
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Welcome to David's Favorite People Awards for 2025, or just some folks that we want to recognize.
First, I want to say thank you to videographer Ben Hugh from Artistic Eye Productions
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