Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #141 - Charity Beallis’ Best Friend Speaks Out + Weldon Boyd’s Witness Gets Arrested

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell continue their coverage of the Charity Beallis case with a look at what divorce court records say about her marriage and life with Dr. Randy Beallis.  Charity was found dead by gunshot along with her 6–year-old twins just one day after her final divorce hearing on Dec. 3, 2025, in Fort Smith, Arkansas. Based on the hearing transcript Mandy and Liz share their opinions about what was going on in Charity’s relationship with Randy. Also on the show, Charity’s lifelong best friend Kayla talks about who Charity was as a friend, a mom and a woman struggling in an allegedly controlling relationship — as well as Charity’s surviving son’s search for a legal team to help with his mom’s investigation (and potentially pursue legal action).  As the Sebastian County Sheriff’s Office and prosecutor’s office continue to operate in the dark, Charity’s son, John Powell, is taking on the fight to get justice for his mother and his siblings. To help with John Powell’s legal fees, go to staypes.ky/charitygofundme Let's Dive in… 🥽 🦈And since we all want something bright to look forward to, Listen and Follow our new Travel Podcast: Wherever It Leads… Episode Links Listen and Follow our new Travel Podcast: Wherever It Leads… Charity Beallis GoFundMe 💜 Beth Braden’s FB Post on Michael Quick Crash 🌐 LUNASHARK Media’s Lorry Sarvis FB Post 🌐 Sebastian County Sheriff's Office’s Press Release on Charity Beallis Investigation - March 4, 2026 📰 Support Independent Journalism with a Premium LUNASHARK Membership 💖 Previous Episodes: TSP ⁠134⁠ & ⁠140⁠ Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ Learn more about LUNASHARK Premium Membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get bonus episodes like our Premium Dives, Wherever It Leads..., Girl Talk, and Soundbites that help you Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight. Plus BTS content from ⁠⁠⁠Murdaugh: Death in the Family⁠⁠⁠ AND Mandy's book Blood On Their Hands. ⁠⁠Support Our Show, Sponsors and Mission: https://lunasharkmedia.com/support/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quince⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hungry Root⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bombas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   |   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's earned through skill and hard work. Please visit theericblan.com to learn more about the book, Anything But Bland is a manifesto for those seeking triumph over adversity and a guide for anyone aspiring to reach their full potential. When I look back at my younger self, I remember the feeling of being bullied and disrespected. I remember hating that feeling, and I remember the day that I resolved that it would never happen again. When I founded Blan Richter with my partner, Ronnie Richter, we committed to build a firm that demanded respect that would fight for the powerful on behalf of the clients who felt powerless. Since forming Blan Richter, we've stood tall against the largest law firms in the state in the country,

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exposing crime and corruption, previously known as the Murdoch murders podcast. True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production, written with journalist Liz Farrell. So I have some really exciting news. Luna Shark has a brand new show, and it is live right now. It's called Wherever It Leads, and you can find it in the link in the description. Y'all know David and I share a true love and passion for travel, and it is a real dream of ours to combine our love for traveling with our podcasting talents.

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click the link in the description and hit that follow button so you won't miss an episode. Also, I haven't said this in a while, and it feels like old times, but please leave a five-star review if you like the show and if you like us and if you want to support our our happiness. It would mean the world to us if we made this launch successful. The link is right there in the description. Go check it out and come explore the world with us. We'll have the ad-free version on the premium feed this weekend. So please consider supporting independent journalism with your membership. So we have a few updates for y'all in the Scott Spivey case, starting with Weldon Boyd. Last Wednesday, Judge You

Gene Bubba Griffith posted his written order denying Stand Your Ground Immunity to Weldon. Obviously, Judge Griffith let us all know last month that he thought Weldon was full of lies and tailored couches, which was deeply gratifying to hear. But seeing this in writing, just as it did in the order that Judge Griffith wrote denying immunity to Weldon's co-killer Bradley Williams, Well, that is a whole other experience. I'm not going to get too detailed here because there's a lot to talk about today, and I know that so many of you have the spivey case practically memorized at this point, but I do want to point out a few things in the order because it demonstrates how this wasn't just a case of police and prosecutorial corruption,

meeting ORI County Police Department in the South Carolina Attorney General, and Governor Primary Candidate Alan Wilson, where one big thing gets overlooked or explained away. In order to keep Weldon Boyd charge-free, Alan Wilson and the Ory County Police overlooked and explained away a lot. And y'all know this. I mean, I know this. But it is disturbing to see that this is acknowledged and memorialized by a sitting judge. Anyway, I just want to mention this part of the order because we haven't talked. a whole lot about Judge Griffith's take on Alan Wilson and his senior prosecutor, Heather Wise, deciding to incorporate South Carolina's

citizens' arrest law into the protective legal quilt that they sewed together for the Ory County Police in their pursuit of no justice in the Scott Spivey case. Here is David with that passage. Bradley Williams argued that he and Weldon Boyd had a common law duty to pursue Scott Spivey until Spivey was was stopped by law enforcement, citing, state, Vinal. Noting, from the earliest times, the English common law placed a duty on every person who encountered another in the commission of a felony to apprehend him

or to make outcry calling the community to pursue and take him. South Carolina statutory law permits a citizen to arrest another person upon certainty that a felony has been committed or in the nighttime, under specific circumstance. See State v. Maceteer, Parentheses describing the genesis, development, and operation of these two statutes,

and holding there is no common law right to make warrantless citizens arrest of any kind. In Macatier, the Supreme Court held the adoption of these acts in 1865, quote, "'Invinses a legislative intent to regulate all warrantless arrests by private citizens and thus to supplant the common law in this field, end quote. Therefore, the only right that exists is statutory, and neither of the statutes places a duty on a citizen to pursue and arrest someone who commits a crime in the person's presence,

in any event. At no time during the events on September 9, 2023, or thereafter up until this motion, did either Boyd or Williams claim to anyone that they were attempting to affect a citizen's arrest of Spivey. Significantly, in their deposition testimony, they denied ever attempting to make any citizens arrest. Now, neither Alan Wilson nor Heather Wise ever claimed that Weldon and Bradley had been trying to citizens' arrest Scott Spivey. Heather even acknowledged that in their meeting with the Spivey family, that citizens' arrest was not a defense that Weldon and Bradley had offered them. But, and there's a big but here, they certainly rested on that argument, right? And they certainly gave Weldon and Bradley the idea to use citizens' arrest as their hero shield in the immunity hearing.

Remember Bradley's lawyer Morgan Martin's closing arguments? The law in South Carolina is, common law that is, that from the earliest times, English common law has placed a duty on every person who saw another commit a felony to apprehend him or make outcry, call in the community to pursue and take him. This duty remains an important feature of Anglo-American law in the modern day. Any person who views a felony has a duty to arrest or to call others to his aid by seeking an officer of the peace. That's what Mr. Boyd, and to the extent he had any role in it, Mr. Williams, did. you got the 911 call, listen to it. Girl, we have listened to it.

But that's all Attorney General Alan Wilson right there in that argument. To protect the Ory County Police Department's corrupt investigation into the Scott Spivey case, Alan Wilson tried to sell us all a story about how there was nothing he could do about it in terms of filing criminal charges. He so badly wanted us to believe that. So it is pretty satisfying and significant that a sitting judge, made it a point to call this out as an unconvincing argument, which means that not only did the judge deny stand your ground immunity to Weldon and Bradley, something Alan Wilson and Heather Weiss

insinuated wouldn't happen and therefore it ethically barred them from charging Walden and Bradley. Their citizen's arrest plan B also failed. Their quilt to protect the corruption fell apart completely, and God, do we love to see that. There are a few other fun things happening in this Bivey case, by the way. Insofar as fun is a word that can be used in a case like this, but the hits keep on coming for ORI County Police in Weldon and Bradley's best friends forever defense team. First, their witness, Ory County Police Investigator Michael Quick, was in a single car crash on February 28th when he was on call for the Criminal Investigations Division. That's not the fun part. That is the very unfun part. The fun part is that he was in his county-owned

vehicle at the time and he was not on his way to a call. The crash occurred around 8.20 p.m. when Quick was turning left from Oystor Bluff Drive onto Big Black Road in Myrtle Beach, according to Ory County Police anyway, who are about as trustworthy as literally any one of our dogs would be if they were hired to work as meat inspectors at a packaging plant. Okay, pause. Wouldn't that be such a great day for a dog, though? Just getting unleashed into a meat factory and fooling everyone with their little work badges and their little clipboards. Adorable, but not trustworthy in that situation, just like the police in investigating their own. The Ory County Police Department referred Beth Braden to the Highway Patrol as they were the investigating agency. According to the

report filled out by trooper Xavier Burgos, quote, Unit 1, that's Michael Quick, made an improper left turn and ran off the roadway right. Hmm. Unit 1 driver, that's Michael Quick, then struck a ditch and came to a final rest. Unit 1 is an unmarked police vehicle and the plate number does not return the correct registration information. Also, we don't know if a field sobriety test was performed. Orie County Police referred us to the Highway Patrol and Troop 5 public information officer Joseph Rell told Beth that he didn't know if a field sobriety test was administered or that. That's two agencies, one crash, no idea if a field sobriety test was administered. We foyered

for the trooper's dash cam to see what else we can learn. Let's be clear. Any one of you would have been subjected to a field sobriety test if this had happened to you in the car that you pay for with the money you earned that is filled with gas that you have to pay for yourself, unlike Detective Quick, who was on the taxpayer dime for both of those things. As you might remember, Michael Quick testified in Weldon's and Bradley's immunity hearing. He was the one who interviewed Blaze Ward at the scene. She's the witness who Weldon believed had corroborated his story, despite that not at all being the case.

In that interview, Blaze had told him that Scott Spivey had come barreling up behind her at the Bell and Bell Light, which would be right before meeting up on the road with Weldon and Bradley. Quick accepted that as fact, and no further investigation was done on whether that was true, which is interesting because Blaze's other main contribution to the case, was her saying that Scott Spivey shot her car up. And at this point, Detective Michael Quick already knew this was not factual, meaning the witness needed to be fact-checked, Michael.

Remember this part of the hearing when Mark Tinsley, aka Tiger Tinsley, smushed Quicks' face in this. At the red light at Bell and Bell, what speed does Mr. Spivey's vehicle go to? It says 0.0 for the... Zero right there. stops in the red light, correct?

It would appear since it says, sir. No rain of terror, no holy hell, no Jason, nothing crazy right there. It would appear based on that 0.0 miles an hour. Right. It would appear that sometimes Ms. Ward misspoke, didn't she? It's possible. Well, it's more than possible. I mean, you know that when she, for instance, towards the end of the video, and she said that she saw the dust fly, and that's how she knew this got spiking shooting, you know now, and you knew then.

that was not what happened, right? You did the defendant shot through their windshield. At the time of me interviewing her, I had no idea what actually happened. Okay, but you know now? I know now through the course of the investigation and what took place. Okay. And the words that she said on the video that we watched were incorrect, right? That she saw Scott's Bobby shooting or she saw the glass flying off the windshield. So yeah, that guy. Do we,

We think something's fishy with this one vehicle crash with no field sobriety test given and photos that showed an unmarked Ford F-150 laying on its passenger side in a ditch. Do we think it's off that Quick was apparently placed on administrative leave after the accident and we don't know if he's allowed to ever return to work? Do we think that it stinks that the Highway Patrol report says that the roads were dry and the weather was clear on the night of the accident, but the supervisor's report from HCPD says that it was wet and rainy. Uh, yeah, duh. Which brings us to the last bit of fun spivey news this week. Again, using the word fun here loosely, but get ready because remember this voice?

Not related? No, sir, not. But this is the bad blood there, right? Um, I won't really say bad, bad blood. You've been fairly vocal. Yes, sir, I have. Yes, sir, I have. I hate a liar. Okay. And stuff she was telling on Facebook was not true. And so you felt compelled to get in touch with somebody and let everybody know? Yes. And I felt like it that they needed to know the whole story, not just her story. And the bad blood has to do with some engagement. Was it to your daughter? My son. To your son. Ain't got nothing to do with sir. Girls come, go. Boys come and go.

come and go. It ain't got nothing to do with that. And did you hate her before this or was it during this that you did? I don't hate Wendy Sarvice, sir. Do I spy some of the stuff she does? Yes, I do. I ain't going to lie about it. Yes, I do. Yeah, so she got arrested and charged with unlawful communication. Let me tell you all, there is no high out there like karma and seeing something like this play out. I swear, It felt like all Laurie Sarvis had been training her whole life for that moment that she had on the stand and a hearing that was being watched by thousands of people.

After years of being the angry mayor of her little Facebook village that she created for herself, Lori Sarvis hard-launched herself into the public eye. Welcome, girl. We'll be sharing more details about her arrest and what this charge is connected to in an upcoming episode, but we see you smiling in that mugshot, Mrs. Next up, we have so much to tell you about the Bialis case. After a quick break, we'll be right back. Where are my gloves?

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Okay, it is time to talk about the Bialis case that has somehow gotten much crazier and more complicated than it was a week ago. Like Murdoch, the more we learn, the more horrified we are, and the more that we want to fight for victims. As y'all know, Charity Bialis and her two six-year-olds, Maverick and Eliana, were found shot to death on December 3, 2025, hours after Charityaieie. the last divorce hearing with her estranged husband, Dr. Randy Bialis. Last week, we discovered that the Sebastian County Sheriff's Office, the lead investigative agency in this case, lied in its press release about Charity's final divorce hearing, and we will talk more about what went down in that hearing in a moment. But this week, Liz and I had the honor of sitting down with Charity's longtime best friend, Kayla Hart.

Up until this point, what we've learned about Charity was mostly through court transcripts and Facebook post. But Kayla reminded us this week of the full person that Charity was, a selfless, strong mother that the world lost on December 2, 2025. I met Charity in third grade. Her first day there, she had moved to our school, and she was dressed head to toe and Ninja Turtles in when she was a little tomboy. and I came up and asked her she wanted to be my friend and we've been friends ever since. We had a very special bond. She spent a lot of time at my house growing up. She spent holidays with my family.

You know, she was raised by a single dad. So, I mean, well, I say that, you know, he was remarried eventually. But, you know, so she, she and I were just connected the hips. We would, you know, sing. We dressed up silly. We told a paper teacher's house together. You know, we just did all the things. and then into adulthood, we continue to stay in touch and be very close friends.

She was a very thoughtful and generous person and friend. I have so many things in every room in my house. I have coffee mugs with, like, sweet, personalized messages. I have a little frame next to my bed with like a letter that she wrote me and she had it printed on a nice page. And this necklace, she got me and I always wear it like to meetings for good luck. She got me this. I have this by my desk. This was at their birthday.

We were just, we were soul-connected. We just had a very special bond. You know, she was extremely devout in her faith, in her Christian faith. And she was a wonderful mother who adored her children. And she had JR at such a young age at 15 that, you know, she really, she was just growing up herself. And, you know, there was some, his dad was not the greatest. He was quite a bit older than her. I was there the day they met.

I remember when J.R. was born. I mean, it just, yeah, she had been through a lot. But she always just always was there. If she'd always be thinking of you, she'd send me a Bible for her. She would send me just nice things. Or if she knew if I had a work meeting coming up, she just checked in. And she did that for all of her friends. Kayla confirmed what we already knew.

The charity's whole world revolved around her kids, Maverick, and Eliana. the children who should never be forgotten in this tragedy. So far, the world just knows them by their photos. Kayla told us about Eliana and Maverick's unique and bright personalities. Here's what she said about Eliana. Oh my gosh. She was an absolute angel. She was my bestie.

She loved to, she'd always, if she was around, she'd be holding your hand. She wanted to hug. She'd always do her little hearts, you know, a little heart to you. She loved to sing. She loved to draw. We did the last thing we all did as a friend group. We went to like a paint with a twist type of party and we all painted these spring wreath cut out things. And Eliana's was awesome. She was really talented and just a little light in everyone's life. I mean, she just brightened everyone's day. She at charity always told me that she had this like innate ability to like see people and connect with. people. They went to the laundry mat one day where she was, you know, getting, where she would get his clothes pressed. And Eliana just walked up to the lady at the counter and was like, can I give you a hug? And the lady just bent down and hugged her and just started crying and said that she, how did she know? She said, since she just told Charity like, you know, I just got out of an abusive

relationship. I just got a job. I'm getting like my life back together. And it touched Charity so much she went to the car and got her some money and gave it to her. And she's like, you know, Eliana just has a way of just knowing when people need to be loved. For us, Kayla's words immediately brought Charity, Eliana, and Maverick's memories to life. At one point in the interview, I looked at Liz and we both felt like Charity was right there in the room with Kayla. We can't explain it, but we felt a bigger presence in that interview. Here is what Kayla said about Maverick. Oh, he was the little angel, too.

They were so different because Eliana was just this sweet princess, you know, whereas he was boy, you know, he was like a little more rowdy. He liked to play. He liked to be silly and, you know, and just make his little faces and stuff. He was very, very, very, very smart. And, you know, Charity and I would talk about that a lot. He did have, you know, some, she had more, like, behavioral issues with Maverick. than she did with Eliana.

Ellie was pretty soft and she would get her feelings hurt. And she just, you know, typically went with what Charity had asked. And Maverick did have a little bit more about, he was more headstrong. But she worked with him really well. And, you know, just, you know, they were always doing something. And the two of them were literally, I mean, they're twins, obviously, but they were two pieces in a pot. I mean, they played, they fought.

They played, they fought. And they never wanted to wear clothes. As soon as they got in the house, they were stripped down to their underwere. And, you know, every time she's sending me videos of them and stuff playing, I was just like, they never wear clothes. They're always just running around and around these. But yeah, yeah. He loved school. He was a perfectionist.

He really wanted to be the best, be the first one done, makes perfect grades. He would get really upset if it wasn't perfect, you know? Maverick and Eliana often get lost in this story, when in fact, they should be at the very center of it. Two innocent children and their mother died by gunshot, and the Sebastian County Sheriff's Office want the public to simply believe that it was a murder suicide without revealing any evidence that would support that conclusion. Simply put, if police are covering up this murder, they wouldn't just be covering up the murder of a woman, which they so often do.

At the heart of this story is two innocent children who were murdered, And at the very least, the Sebastian County Sheriff's Office owes it to those children and the people who love them to find out exactly who killed them. If children aren't owed justice in our society, then who is? The reality is truly sickening and despicable. It is fairly typical for police to cover up a woman's murder. But it is inexplicably evil and rare for police to cover up the double homicide of two. two children. Kayla did not tiptoe around it. Family life in the Biala's home was far from perfect. She said Randy and his alleged abuse, anger, and need to control charity, always weighed heavily

on charity, the children, and their relationships. Our relationship definitely changed when they were married because she was very much under lock and key and couldn't really do much, I couldn't really go many places, couldn't talk on the phone much. If he was there and the kids were there, she had to be involved with the kids to keep him out of his hair. And it was more so towards the end when he started drinking more and she'd say, oh, he's passed out. Thank God, you know, I can talk to you on the phone now because he either wanted attention or just wanted her with the kids. It was just always something. I know that she tried really hard to change him and to change herself to make it work.

She was reading books about a narcissist and how to deal with a narcissist. And she was crying about it. She was going to therapy, which he chose the therapist. And when she told me some of the things her therapist was telling her, I was like, you need to stop going to this lady. Like she is clearly biased. She would act like things were really good for sometimes. So sometimes it was like we would just dance around it.

And then she would come back and say, oh, he's really, I'm really struggling with him. He's been, you know, being mean to the kids or he's been mean to me again. or I don't know what to do. I can't get over this hump type of thing. So it, yeah, it was definitely, she did get to where she could start coming and seeing me up here. And I would go see her some because it's about an hour and a half apart. But we would just, she could come during the day when the kids were in school.

I would take like a Friday off and we would go have brunch and go shop or go get our meals done or something and just spend some time together. And we came back to my house because we'd ride in one car. And then before she had it out, we were. visiting on the porch and she started sharing some things about the relationship and she ended up taking her phone and putting it in the house because she said I just always feel like he's listening to me. Kayla said to her belief and knowledge, Charity lived in fear of her husband long before her death and her divorce. Today we need to talk more about that relationship. So it's time to return to everything we learned in the transcript of Charity Bialis's final divorce hearing on December 2nd

in Fort Smith, Arkansas. As you know, after three months of saying, nothing. and no arrest being made, the Sebastian County Sheriff's Office posted a bizarre press release earlier this month on their Facebook page, kind of sort of maybe saying that Charity had killed herself and that the twins,

Eliana and Maverick, had died by homicide, but also that the investigation is still open, for some reason. Also in the press release, investigators included the evidence, I guess you could call it that, that supported a half-hearted finding of suicide. Remember that phrase,

that the medical examiner's lab had a conclusion of suicide? One piece of evidence was that Charity had gone through four sets of attorneys over the course of the divorce case. Another piece of evidence was that Randy's phone and Tesla weren't at or near Charity's house. Another is that Charity turned off her security at 10 p.m., but no doors or windows were allegedly opened.

And the final piece is that transcripts of the December 2nd hearing show that Charity wanted to reunite with Randy. I think we made it pretty clear last. speak, that that is not at all what the transcripts show. And the more we look at this press release, we have to ask whether anyone outside of the police had any hand in pressuring the police to post it. Charity, who represented herself in the hearing, was at a huge disadvantage and ultimately the very fishy, in our opinion, Judge Shannon Blatt, ruled that Randy was more credible than Charity and not a narcissist, which is a weird thing for a judge to weigh in on,

never mind, declare so certainly. The judge gave Randy a greater share of custody for six months. After that, each parent would get one week with the children, one week without the children. Arkansas is obviously new territory for us, so we don't yet have the experience that we have in South Carolina where we can read situations immediately, but who, boy, have our listeners been helpful with this case. Apparently, Sebastian County, Arkansas, is a hotbed of corruption when it comes to the justice system. We're learning so much about how things work there. And let's just say it sounds very similar to us, a la Hampton County familiar, a la Ori County familiar, but somehow more sinister. Which is all to say, if the Sebastian

County Sheriff's Office and Sebastian County Prosecuting Attorney Daniel Shoe think this is going away anytime soon, that they're embarrassing press release solved their problems, then they need to seek help for their very dumb thoughts because we're just getting started. Okay, so let's talk about the December 2nd hearing and what the transcript actually does say about Charity and Randy, their marriage and their family life in our opinions. Obviously, our report is going to look a lot different from the one Sebastian County Sheriff's Office published because we've actually read the transcripts more than once. And it's kind of incredible that investigators and the judge ignored so much of what went down. I promise you, you will see exactly what I mean by that.

Let's start with the very, very beginning of the hearing because it was off to the races. There were two cases being heard that day. The first was Charity Bialis v. Randy Bialis. The second was Randy Bialis and it is every bit as chaotic as that would seem. Charity was first to present her case and as she was about to call her first witness, Randy's attorney, former Sebastian County prosecutor

Michael Pierce of Jean, Jean and Jean attorneys at law told her that she could testify if she wanted, which prompted Cherry to say the following to the court. Okay, so my understanding is Randy really wants to see the children as often as he can. I have... Judge Black cut Charity off and was like, are you wanting to testify now?

Then Charity explained. Honestly, I want to know where Randy stands. Him and I... And then the judge cut her off again and told her to call her first witness. It is obviously not clear what was on Charity's mind at that moment in what she was trying to share with the court. But it makes me wonder if she was attempting

to make this less adversarial. As in if Randy had changed his stance on things, then maybe she was open on changing hers. Was she trying to tone things down before they got started? If so, what a missed opportunity. Stick a pin in this thought because we think it's important. Charity's first witness was Randy, and here is what happened when he took the stand. Here is the very first exchange between the two. Again, big trigger warning here.

especially to all of those who have gone through a family court. David will read for Randy Bialis and Grace Hills will read for charity. Do you, Randy, are you open to communicating with me as the mother of our children in a respectful, safe manner, and in the best interest of our children and not solely for you or me? I'm seeking full custody. Okay. And with that, Charity turned to the judge, saying, That's what I needed to know, Your Honor, is where he stood on that.

So clearly he's irrational. The judge was uninterested in that assessment. She told Charity that it wasn't the time to make arguments and to continue questioning her witness, which Charity did. So can you tell us why you think you deserve full custody? Because you abuse them horribly. Okay, projection. That is not my truth. That's your truth.

That's documented, sir. We have a misdemeanor of domestic battery guilty. We have the Arkansas State Police who have substantiated severe child abuse. In April 2025, Charity reported to state investigators that her children had told her a physical abuse they had experienced from their father when they were out of her presence. The accusations were deemed credible by the state and Randy's name was placed on a list of those with substantiated claims of child abuse made against them. He was never charged with child abuse and denies ever physically or emotionally hurting the children. But did you notice how old Randy turned that right around on charity? He seized the narrative immediately.

Here's what happened next. So tell us how I abused the children. You systematically lied to them, and you took six weeks after we separated to instill lies into them, and specifically about the abuse they obtained. Supposedly by me, while you were in the hospital, for two days, seven months prior to the incident. So did you or did you not tell the children you would kill them if they ever told anyone what you did to them? I did not.

The children told me that you did. Without an objection from Randy's attorney, Judge Blatt stepped in and stopped charity, telling her that it was hearsay for her to say what the children had told her. Throughout this time on the stand, Randy, who was a hearsay, who was a hearsay for her, who was a hearsay for her, again, had pleaded guilty to a domestic battery charge just two months earlier and was recommended to be on the state maltreatment of children list, repeatedly accused charity of being the abuser. Do you have any other accusations you want to tell the courts? Oh, everything you said was a lie. You've said multiple lies about me. You've tried to ruin my career.

and the lies are too numerous to even mention. I'm no expert on witness testimony, but lies too numerous to even mention when you're fighting for custody of your children and accusing your wife of abusing them sure seems like the kind of thing a man without any receipts to back up that claim would say, which is accurate, at least according to this transcript.

And this is another thing the judge should have been attuned to in our opinions, but Randy had nothing to worry about. because this judge, Shannon Blatt, could have been CEO of a red flag manufacturer called Red Flags R Us, and she could have been surrounded by a field of her product of red flags everywhere. And because of whatever it is that's going on

with the Sebastian County Justice System, whatever that is and incentivizes her, she still would have been like, red flags. Huh, I don't see any red flags. Randy's contention that Charity abused the kids was wholly centered around how he felt. There was no accusations of actual abuse. What he was calling abuse came in the form of his opinion

that charity was depriving the children of their 10 out of 10 star father, a man who was on his at least third wife, had no relationship with his other children, in fact, had signed away his rights to those children for some reason, has allegations of abuse in the past and current abuse allegations, including a domestic violence charge, he had just pleaded guilty to. But in Randy's mind, Charity was the abuser in this equation, because he said so.

He said so. And God, how lucky is it for Randy that Sebastian County has a family court judge who likes it when a man says so, right? Randy went on to accuse charity of implanting false memories in the children, which is a bold move given his history. So may I ask how you think you can give the children what they need by trying to take their mother? You initiated this completely. You poisoned them, and you have damaged them, severely damaged them. Severely damaged them. And you, can you tell us why you think that it's what damage you're

referencing? The poisoning. I'm referencing the poisoning. Tell us about the poisoning. What you put in their head over a six-week period that they suddenly remembered. Six- weeks after our separation from the incident. They come up with a story and that's the story, this elaborate story that you put in their heads, and they may truly believe it because it's been repeated. To come up with such an elaborate story, both of them, with time frames such as, quote,

when my mom was in the hospital seven months previous to that for two days, end quote, six-year-olds don't do that. They don't have that kind of detail, that kind of recollection. They were perfectly happy. They were thriving in school. We were a happy family. We had outings together. As you know, we go out, me and those two out to the woods all the time.

I had alone time with both kids. kids. They would be very reluctant if I hit them in the stomach, smothered them until they can't breathe and passed out, and they use that term passed out. You know, it's the whole story is sickening. For the record, that's not accurate. Those were not their words. I agree it is sickening. We don't have the extensive reports on what the children told. state investigators yet or how they phrase things. But we do have Bobby Woodrum, the Sebastian County Sheriff's Office investigator who was taken off the Bialis children abuse case. Remember Bobby from last week, that investigator who, based on nothing but his emotions with no training, no extensive

experience, no professional requirement to do so, concluded that Charity had coached the children into saying that Randy had abused them. He was written up for that by his supervisors for being unprofessional and inappropriate. Again, the allegations were ultimately found to be substantiated. And no matter how much Randy's attorney, Michael Pierce, tried to make this true, Charity was not, according to Bobby's testimony, investigated for making a false report. So there's that. Randy giving his reasons why he feels that Charity is the abuser in that household. Again, just feelings, all centered around him. Randy, no receipts, no police reports, no findings from investigators, just Dr. Randy Bialis's old feelings. And again, I have to remind y'all,

at the end of this hearing, Judge Blatt specifically said that Randy does not exhibit narcissistic personality traits. Huh, more on that in a minute. Okay, let's talk. about how Randy viewed charity and their life together, because I think it's really telling. So how do you? Tell us how you can be the father of the year to the children. I was an excellent father to them the whole time. I've never abused them. I gave them nothing but love, and they gave me nothing but love back. There was never any fear whatsoever exhibited in either children. They were, Like I said, thriving, happy, and we were supposedly a happy family.

You know, you would claim that you were blessed. We would claim to each other how blessed we were when we looked out onto our backyard. And we mentioned my job is perfect because we get to spend so much time together. It's wonderful that I get to pick up the kids every day and be with them, nearly a hundred percent of the time. And then very, very few families get that opportunity. And that's why we're so blessed. Okay.

And you would say that to me. For me, it's charity saying okay to that. I can almost hear the tone of her voice. I feel like most of us have been charity at some point in our lives where a man is telling us about our... our own experiences while quoting us on things we might have said in the past before circumstances changed, you know, like fearing for your life. But it's also Randy saying, and you would say that to me, really just adds that extra narcissistic cherry on top. And again, like Judge Shannon Blad,

I am no psychiatrist, so I'm not at all diagnosing Randy there. I'm merely pointing out that it's narcissistic to think that you can dictate to another person what their reality was in a situation just because that was your perception of that situation. By the way, if this were a movie script, I would so write Charity's next question to him to be, oh, when did I say that? Did I say that on February 16th before the police came while you were choking me? Answer the question, Mr. Bialis. There's more to this exchange. So tell us why you walked out then, if everything was so I walked out? Well, are you? kidding me? What do you mean I walked out? We have documentation a few days prior and text

messages you were leaving us. We had an, the worst argument of our lives because there was a series of events that made me truly believe that you no longer loved me, and I can list those. Okay, list them for us, please. Okay. So approximately nine months before this, you, underwent a drastic transformation. So you were drinking a bottle of wine every day because you would get a double, you know, whatever that's called, a 1.75 liter bottle every two days. You were smoking marijuana heavily and suddenly everything changed in one day. You stopped doing both of those, which are, it's a, that's a good thing in and of itself. But then you took, you went away from me physically.

We used to spend all our time in, not all of our time, but a significant amount of time together in the same room. I would finish my job in three to four hours in the morning. In the very early morning hours, I'd go to work at four o'clock in the morning. morning and you did the getting ready for the children you did the care of in the morning of getting the children prepared for school you took them to school when you came home we would spend the rest of the time together so we were very close me and you supposedly and we had a healthy relationship

supposedly. But now I know all of that is different after looking at your psychiatric records. We had a very dark relationship looking at those records. So you were the one living a false life. You were the one lying to me on a daily basis about the health of our relationship.

Oh, gosh, where to start, right? So even though old Randy sort of stopped himself there to make sure the court knew that not drinking a bottle of wine and not smoking marijuana was a good thing, he still gave himself away. He gave it away because here's how it looks to us. Sure does seem like Charity was using the fuzzy warmness of wine and pot to cope with what seems like never-ending amounts of Randy. we used to spend a significant amount of time together in the same room. He basically worked part-time, which makes his $400,000 plus a year salary very interesting to us. But was he just always there in Charity's presence? Before the physical fight in February of last year, according to the testimony,

Randy told Charity that he was getting an apartment and moving out because she did not love him in the way he deserved to be loved. Throughout testimony, Randy repeatedly told the court that Charity, was 100% responsible for the problems in their marriage, which like we said last week, seems to be a mantra for Randy. Here's what he said of his first wife, Donna, with whom he had three children. In episode 134, we shared with you some of the contents from police reports that we had, as well as a witness statement Donna gave to Sebastian County prosecutors shortly before Randy pleaded guilty to assaulting charity in October 2025, meaning prosecutors had this and still

chose to drop charges and reduce one of his charges that he pleaded guilty to. In those reports and in that statement, we learned that Randy has faced several allegations of abusive behavior with those three kids. Randy, as far as we know, has never faced charges for any of the incidents mentioned. From Randy's perspective, it seems that any problem he's had with his oldest children are the entire fault of the children's mother, much like with charity. Let's look at some of that testimony. Do you have a relationship? Do you have a relationship? with your prior three children? No.

Do you know why? Yes. You were a witness to that. They were turned against me by their mother, and the Adelitum in the case agreed at the end of when I chose to finally give up my rights to see them, you were witnessed to the horror that put me through. Each time I went to see them,

them, they would tell me that they didn't want to see me. And so after years of going through that, I didn't want to put them through any more pain. So I gave up my rights to continue to see them because it was making them miserable because they were being poisoned at home. So you believe the mother. You were a witness to this, and you agreed with me at the time that what she did, did was horrible, and then you befriended her on Facebook, contacted her, sent them to the same counselor that had their own opinion on it, which isn't a objective party because they never interviewed me. They never looked at the other side of the story, and that's the whole job of the AdLytum. The AdLytum believed they were manipulated. That was her final conclusion.

And you copied what she did to me. That's not true, Your Honor. There are so many patterns in Randy Bialis's life, right? He is a long-term victim of women. Of course. My goodness. He has two wives who are completely at fault for his children not talking to him. And in both cases, though 15 years apart, a third party that is supposed to be a neutral party told him that the wife manipulated the children into not wanting to be around him. Oh, in our favorite part, Randy thinks that the children's therapists, meaning both the older

kids and the twins therapists, plural, who they went to after making allegations of abuse against their father, the same father, he thinks they are biased. The therapists are biased toward the children because they weren't just buying Randy's version of things. If only, he could explain a way to the therapist about what his children meant there, right? This is why we said trigger warning at the beginning, because we know that so many of you have dealt with family court cases like this. Now we need to warn you again.

Let's go back to the testimony, with Grace Reading for Charity and David reading for Randy. Have you tried to have a relationship with your other children? Yes. Recently? Yes. In November, we were at a funeral and I talked to Ali, my oldest child, for a good hour and a half, very briefly to Chloe. And I didn't. Travis did not want to see me. Did you speak to them after the funeral?

No. At any point? No, even though Ali and I had a very long conversation and a very big hug at the end, she made it, that she didn't want to maintain a relationship, and that was very heartbreaking, and you are well aware of that. Did she give you a reason? No. Are you... She did give me a reason before, and because I did ask her years ago why they didn't want to have contact with me, and the reason was just simply, I left the house. We had, you know, we fell out and we had a divorce, and that was the whole reason.

and why they didn't want to have contact with me. Okay, so first, we changed the names of his children in that for obvious reasons. Second, the one child who talked to him at length at this funeral, Ali, also told him that she didn't want to talk to him after that, which is very telling, right? In Randy's answer to Charity's question about whether Allie told him the reason for not wanting a relationship with him, it kind of sounded like Charity either knew the answer or knew that he knew the answer

when she started to say, are you, as in, are you sure? Perhaps. Because Randy appears to have cut her off with an answer about the reason why Allie supposedly gave him back in the day, which she absolutely might have. And that might actually be the reason Allie did not want a relationship with her father because he left. But also, kids and parental relationships that involve allegations of abusive behavior tend to avoid things starting with that parent. So it's not inconceivable that Allie answered Randy that way just to keep the peace. And I say all this, not to be anti-Randy for anti-Randy's sake. This is about the things that we can see, the police reports and the transcripts, in our opinions on what we're seeing.

And this is about how we are still baffled that at the end of this hearing, Judge Blatt herself specifically made a point to say that randious risk to others is low. She said specifically that he does not demonstrate antisocial or narcissistic personality traits that could potentially compromise his judgment or put others at risk. Again, she specifically said that. Okay, let's hear more testimony about Randy's and Charity's home life. We've edited Randy's testimony to shorten it to the parts that are relevant to the point we're making here. Do you remember when I came to you before you chose to flee, I asked you to please make a change, to please see that you need help.

Out of love, I said, out of love, Randy, please do that for our children. Please do that for yourself. Please do that for me. No. I remember you calling me a narcissist, and you know some kind of these other changes that you transformed to. So let me go back to that, if I may. These, this transformation that happened to you in one day. So you came from sitting with me in the same room to going in the kitchen with your phone and notebook and AI and cross-referferferfer. referencing the Bible to AI and spending hours and hours and hours a day on that. And even at night you would do that. And traditionally, we would all go to bed at the same time. You stopped going to bed, and you finally admitted to me that you needed some down time. So that's the reason why you were doing that at night and not going to bed.

And yes, we did sleep with the children, slept. on the same bed as us. We both agreed and tried to stop that, but then they came in and then the bed, and frankly, we both enjoyed it immensely to feel close to the children, and my fondest memories are scratching each other's backs to get to sleep. I would roll over and scratch Eliana's back, and then she would scratch my back, and then I would scratch Maverick's back, And we would go back and forth to get each other to sleep that way. And you stopped coming to bed at the same time. So you would come to bed at 10 or 10.30 because you needed some downtime.

And you were also very rude to people on the phone. You suddenly, it was cringe-worthy. You would talk to people on the phone and have absolutely no respect. And just yell at them. for their supervisors and treat them with utter disrespect. It was a complete change from the old you, all the stuff that happened the previous nine months, and then you would give me glares.

I would catch you glaring at me, and I asked you what that was about, and you would always say, quote, Oh, it was my father, end quote. End quote. And you convinced me through all the actions that you did that you hated me. I not only felt you didn't love me, but that you hated me. And that's what that argument ten days before that was about.

And then we discover that you had obtained a lawyer, and even before that fight for a divorce. So of all the actions that you've done, you've proved that indeed. you did hate me. It wasn't just a falling out of love. It was a true despisement of me. You couldn't stand me. You hated me, and that is in the proof. That is in all you have done.

That's your belief, Randy. That's not my truth. And for the record, the attorney, the retainer fee was paid after. We have the text messages. February 8th, you were leaving us. Okay, so. if anyone wants to see me crash out on the spot, then definitely mention that Randy Bialis

used the word cringe-worthy on the stand to describe Charity's behavior because, a yuck. Who has he been hanging out with? You are too old for that, sir. Okay, so let's break this down a little. From the testimony, it seems like Randy wasn't just an ever-present part of Charity's life, but he was closely watching her for nuance in how she felt about him and listening to her phone calls, I guess. The life Randy describes is one that seems like surveillance, like him watching Charity and then challenging her on what he sees, at least according to what we're seeing in the transcript. Okay, I need to have David read one part again. David? We both agreed and tried to stop that. But then they came in the bed and frankly,

we both enjoyed it immensely to feel close to the children. And my fondest memories are scratching each other's backs to get to sleep. I would roll over and scratch Eliana's back, and then she would scratch my back, and then I would scratch Maverick's back, and we would go back and forth to get each other to sleep that way. So I just want to qualify this by saying that I'm probably reading into things a little too much here, but Mandy and I both had very strong reactions to this part of the transcript, because it almost sounded like Randy was talking about the kids as if they were already dead. It's that word would. It feels like a mental severing. There's finality there. Randy is literally in the hearing where he is asking for full custody of the children.

Not only full custody, but he wants to take the children to another state and not offer any visitation to charity until she gets help, which we can only deduce to mean that she starts reading from his script again. And maybe this only seems weird and it's tripping us up because we know what happens tomorrow, right? Tomorrow, Charity, and her babies will be found dead. So regardless of what happened, it's just a weird thing to read knowing that. Another thing that stuck out to us was the phrasing of, you've finally admitted you needed downtime. The finally part of that could indicate that, as Charity was trying to make space for herself, he was hounding her about why. The finally admitted part is where a person in a tough relationship breaks, right? They've avoided the

fight of, I just need time alone and away from you for as long as they can. I'm not saying this is the case here. I'm just saying what it sounds like to us. While Charity had Randy on the stand, she asked him whether he liked to control people. Here's how that went down. Do you admit that you have issues with control? I have no issues with control. I am a very well-controlled individual. I mean in controlling others is what I mean. I have absolutely no desire to control anybody else, their thoughts or their actions. Oh, cool. Let's all go home now, right? My God, these, if I do say so, myself guys, are a trip. Wait, I forgot. Judge Blatt seems to like these kind of guys. Anyway, this exchange happened right after Charity questioned Randy about their finances and how his role as Breadwinner played out in their relationship.

Do you admit that we had our separate bank accounts? Yes. And you admit that you historically replenished that monthly. You had a credit card yourself. I'm the sole breadwinner, and so I would subsidize you with sometimes monthly, sometimes every other month, an amount about equal to $10,000 to pay off that credit card. So with that, can you tell us what the money was spent on, what I used? used that money for?

You use that money to purchase about five things a day. We would have UPS and FedEx and USPS come and drop packages off, probably averaging five packages a day for six days a week. So, but you admit to the court we did our shopping online. We didn't go into stores. Yes. You had everything delivered including groceries to the home, and we have had disagreements recently about cutting down on all the things that you would get delivered.

Interesting, how Charity made it a point to say that they did their shopping online and didn't go to stores. Was this another way for her to say that she didn't go shopping because every day was Randy B. Alice Day in the same room together, with the same bedtime? Obviously, we don't know the answer to that, but there's some reason why Charity cut in to highlight that part of Randy's testimony. for the court. Let that sink in, and we will tell you more. After a quick commercial break, we will be right back. The moment you've been waiting for is here. GMC's truck month is on. For a limited time, get 0% financing for 72 months on the 26 GMC Sierra 500 crew cab pro graphite. Feel the strength of GMC Sierra's 5.3-liter V8 engine.

Elevate your confidence with a factory 2-inch lift and off-road suspension. Ready for whatever lies ahead. Power, capability, confidence, all at 0% during GMC's truck month. Don't wait. Visit your local GMC dealer today and make it yours. Randy's testimony then continued. I'm going to condense his testimony here so that you can get the full picture of his grievances with charity. For instance, many of the children's clothes don't get worn once,

and you give them away when they outgrow them. And then another instance is I have. asked you specifically to buy generic foods. You did so for a few days and then went right back to buying full-priced foods. We were trying to save for a Disney cruise that you wanted one of those top sweets, which is very expensive. We were trying to save for that and you completely did not help our situation in trying to save for that. As a matter of fact, I wasn't able to put my into my retirement account for quite some time now because of your excesses. Having your nails done all the time, having your eyebrows done, your eyelashes done,

laser therapies, your lips done, your breasts done twice. We were going to have your breasts done a second time, getting all of these cosmetic things every week. You would go and do a facial. You would do fillers. You know, it was endless to the amount of things that you did, and you would not be a good steward of our finances. You used, we had a joint credit card account,

and to prove that you spent on my birthday while I was in jail, I think you spent $3,500 on my birthday from our joint credit card in one day. I'm sure you saw what that was for. Do you want to tell the courts? Yes. It was for an extraordinary amount from the co-op. Like $900. Then you spent several hundred dollars at Sam's Club and several hundred dollars at two different Walmarts, I believe. And one was in Bentonville, I believe. First of all, headline alert. Woman spends a lot of money on her looks to meet standards of the patriarchy.

Raise your hand if you think Randy, from this testimony alone that we've shared with you, sounds like the kind of guy could be okay with Charity is she had let her looks go. Exactly. Charity was about 18 years younger than Randy. She was about 26 years old and a mother of an 11-year-old when they first got together. Randy himself is in shape and seems a little on the number. north side of possibly being vain. So I'm finding it a little hard to believe that Charity was doing any of those things without feeling some sort of pressure to be perfect for him, without some sort of buy-in from him. But we didn't know Charity. So we asked Kayla about the surgeries and fillers and

how Randy used them in his effort to get the court to think negatively about Charity. He's the one who encouraged it. He's the one who pushed her to get the surgeries in the first place. And he's the one who put things in her head that she needed those surgeries. So the fact that he threw them up at her does not surprise me, but it was much to do with him. Not shocking, right? But also, I'm sure Randy would deny that. And does that remind you of anyone? J.P. Miller. But let's go back to Randy's birthday. February 18th, just two days after he was arrested on allegations of choking charity. I obviously can say this for certain, but from the transcript, it almost seems like he's consulted that Charity spent $3,500 on things that weren't for his birthday while he was in jail

after being charged with choking her. Maybe. In response to his accusation about the co-op, Charity asked Randy if they had livestock and he admitted that yes, they did. And she did that because the co-op is a reference to a farmer's co-op that sells farm equipment and animal food. Apparently, Charity was running household errands on his birthday and that was too much for him. Charity followed that up with another question. So you admit that we regularly shopped at Sam's to buy things in bulk? Yes, but we've never, ever spent nearly that amount in one day, not even close. Then you continued to spend nearly $1,000 a day for quite some time,

and that's, I had to shut off you from my credit card, and then somehow you got in a back door because of Apple Pay. I had to shut it off again and the whole new credit card once again. Talk about a moment of Zen. There are so many horrific and awful points in this case. But picturing Charity using Apple Pay after Randy tried to cut her off from her only source of money to live on, meaning him is satisfying. Until you remember that just hours after this hearing, Eliana Maverick and Charity would die by gunshot, and that's the horrific reality at the heart of this case. It is sickening and baffling to those who love Charity and her babies to think how this could happen. We asked Charity's best friend Kayla if there was any chance that Charity could have

killed herself and or possibly the children like the media and police are insinuating happened. She said zero. There was quote zero percent chance in her mind. Here is why. She didn't believe And at first of all, with her Christian faith, who did not believe in taking her own life, that would be taking it out of God's hands. She also adored her children and she would never harm them whatsoever. I just, she had such devout faith and she fought tooth and nail. Like, she would not just give up. Like, there's no way.

There's no way she did it. Kayla has known charity for 30 years. The fact that she believes that there is a 0% chance of charity committing suicide, that is a big deal. For those who love charity, nothing about the way the Sebastian County Sheriff's Office is handling this investigation is sitting right. They all need questions answered. Like, did the police find a weapon at the scene? Where was it? What was the weapon?

Whose was it? How exactly do they think that charity was shot twice? How many hours did police lock down the crime scene for? Did police ever treat Randy Bialis like a suspect? Did they ever get a solid alibi from him? Was there an insurance policy on charity and or her children? How many doors and windows did the police check in Charity's home? Were there any windows that were not monitored by the security system

that someone could have entered through? And really, we all need to know. Was this investigation thorough and fair at all? Or was it designed to reach the conclusion of the press release? This crime should go down as one of the worst in Sebastian County, Arkansas's history. This crime deserves a thorough and fair investigation from a non-biased police agency,

and the public deserves to know about how the sheriff's office reached the conclusions it did that it put in its press release. Public safety could absolutely be at risk if the killer in this case is not brought to justice, and that should concern every single person in Arkansas. If anything, Charity's only surviving son, J.R. Powell, deserves answers in this investigation. He has begged the Sebastian County Sheriff's Office officials to see the results of the autopsy that supposedly came to the conclusion that his mother died by suicide.

He deserves to see evidence, but he has had no luck. As y'all know, from the cases we have covered, legal representation for victims in situations like this is unfortunately often essential for getting justice. JR needs an attorney who will demand answers from the police and file lawsuits until they get those answers. To help JR with that endeavor, Kayla has started a go-fund me

to help raise money for legal expenses connected to John's fight for his mother. Please see the link in the description if you are able to contribute. I started the GoFundMe a couple of our good friends and I put it together. He needs good counsel. He does not have that. He's actually had several attorneys turn him down. And he's a 24-year-old kid. He's a very smart young man. He's got a good job. But he doesn't have just, you know, extra thousands of dollars lying around to get an attorney on retainer to help fight this battle. And, you know, in looking it up because I don't know what I don't know. And I've been Googling and using chat TBT.

It said we need like a civil rights or wrongful death attorney that's experienced in, you know, dealing with potential corruption within, you know, law enforcement and otherwise. And unfortunately, I don't have anybody that has like a smoking gun like recommendation in my circle. So I've just been Googling and then we are trying to raise the money to be able to get that lawyer. And we have a carve out time tomorrow to make those phone calls and try to see what that's going to look like. Charity's son, JR, who is her personal representative, needs a good, honest, trustworthy, badass attorney to help him get answers in this investigation and consider every legal option he has. We'll talk more about this in a future episode, but there is a reason Charity had four attorneys. So thank you, Sebastian County Sheriff's Office for pointing that out in your unprofessional list of, quote, evidence that charity kind of sort of might have killed herself.

Because if there's one thing we can count on, it's that the corrupt always accidentally telling themselves. That said, J.R. Powell needs an attorney who not only wants to be a hero, but can be. If that is you or someone you know, please let us know. It was a gut punch and I know J.R. is, we're all devastated and he's very devastated. He just wants to do right by his mom. He wants to honor her name. He wants justice for her and for the babies.

And, you know, I just want to support him in any way I can because I cannot imagine navigating that in any age or circumstance. For now, we want to leave you with the top three things on our minds. One is that we believe charity and we believe in her. We see her and we see her love for her three children, John, Eliana, and Maverick. We also see that her experiences are unfortunately familiar. Her story is that of so many women out there who have decided to stand in their power. We want to honor her in every woman like her, meaning get ready, Sebastian County, Arkansas.

We're at peak pesky right now. Two is that Charity feared for her life and ended up dead. Of course, Sebastian County kind of sort of maybe says that Charity took her own life. No one that we have spoken to so far believes that. This is all to say. To get answers in this case, we need help. If you have access to information in this case, or even in other Sebastian County cases that demonstrate judicial and legal corruption, please reach out to you.

us. We protect our sources and we help them protect themselves. Time is important right now. We do not trust the sheriff's office, the judge, or the prosecutor. So if you are able to screenshot, photograph, or otherwise get us information that is being kept from the public, please consider doing so. Three is what we've said before, and this is important. This is the pin that I've had you holding on to during this episode. Randy Bialis went into their final divorce hearing wanting full custody of the children. He wanted to take the kids away from her.

And yes, Charity also wanted full custody, but she demonstrated what seems like a willingness to be flexible if Randy were open to parenting the children together in a peaceful way. Randy had no concrete evidence of Charity abusing the children. He just had his opinions. Charity did have evidence of Randy being deemed a potential danger to the children. In the end, the judge decided that for six months, to apparently make up for Randy's last time with the children over the previous 10 months, he would get the children for two weeks and Charity would get the children for one week. After six months, they would each get one week on, one week off. That was the decision.

And that decision might not have been exactly what Charity wanted, but it definitely, definitely was not what Randy wanted. He wanted to take the kids away from Charity, in our opinion. He says because she was a danger to them. But after reading the transcript and other court materials as well as police reports, it is in our opinion that Randy wanted to take the children from charity, at least on some level, to punish her for not loving him enough and for standing up for herself over the previous 10 months, which affected his career and compromised his medical license, the thing that he needs to allow him to work part-time and yet earn several hundred thousand dollars a year.

Again, there are far too many unanswered questions in this. case, J.R. Powell deserves to know what happened to his mother and to his half-siblings, and he deserves to get a good lawyer to help him find those answers. Please consider supporting his fight for justice by donating to the GoFundMe in the link in the description. Until next time, stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. True Sunlight is a Lunas shark production created by me, Mandy Matney, co-hosted and reported by journalist Liz Farrell. Research support provided by Beth Braden. Audio production support provided by Jamie Hoffman and Grace Hills.

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