Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #150 [Part Two] - Revealing The Receipts On How 'Egg Lady' Was Removed From Murdaugh Jury

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Starting point is 00:01:24 True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production written with journalist Liz Pharrell. Okay, so in reporter James Lasden's May 26th, story in The New Yorker titled How a Small Town Clerk's Misdeeds upturned the Murdoch verdict, reporter James Laston claimed that on February 27, 23, Colleton County Clerk of Court Becky Hill was, quote, laying her groundwork to get Myra Crosby, aka Jure 785, aka Egg Lady, aka Monkey Farm Juror removed from Elic Murdoch's jury. And he speculated that this alleged effort of Becky's was a broader effort. He recounted Myra's in-camera hearing with Judge Newman,

Starting point is 00:02:17 the prosecution, and the defense, in which she denied speaking to anyone about the case and she said that she would be waiting until closing arguments to make up her mind. James wrote of that, saying, it was the proper answer to give, but it may have spurred on those seeking her removal. An ominous reference that we believe is based on, again, a troll theory, that we, along with Mark Tinsley, whistleblower Christine Avery, Eric Land, and Becky Hill, somehow conspired to get the egg lady removed. This, despite the investigation into Myra showing that she

Starting point is 00:02:59 He did speak with three people about the case outside the courtroom in violation of Judge Newman's orders. You likely don't remember what was happening inside the courtroom on February 27, 2023. But here's a reminder of Elyke Murdoch's brother, John Marvin, on the stand. At one point, he had taken his seatbelt off and he had his head down where Yerfani would be in the seat, and is trying to stretch his legs and just kind of steady, just like thrashing them and kicking them. It's just, again, I've seen TV, but I've never seen something like this in real life.

Starting point is 00:03:41 And was he able to control himself? No, sir. I said about detail. So he messed himself. He had diarrhea. It just couldn't control it. And then... And I say diarrhea.

Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm not talking about... at a restroom, I'm coming about in the car, in his pants. Okay. Yeah, that day. We were in week six of the trial, and everyone was just about done. Now, this troll theory, i.e. troll lie, that we have seen for a while now, and that Elyx attorneys Dick Harputtling and Jim Griffin hint at whenever they get the chance, goes like this.

Starting point is 00:04:26 The Lunashard team, Colleton County Clerk of Court, Becky Hill, and Attorney Mark Tinsley all saw that there was a problem juror that wouldn't vote guilty. So they conspired to find a woman named Christine Avery, a Walter Borough resident who happened to work at Domino's and made her write an email to Judge Clifton Newman saying that she heard her co-worker. Lucky for them who turned out to be a tenant of the monkey juror talking about how the monkey juror was discussing Eleg's case

Starting point is 00:04:55 and how she thinks he's innocent. When absolutely none of that is true. Like not even a little bit. other than the part about Myra Crosby violating a court order. Like we told you in part one, a fact checker from The New Yorker reached out to Mark Tinsley about this story, and according to Mark, they removed a portion of the story that stated the troll lie, that Christine Avery, a resident of Colleton County,

Starting point is 00:05:21 sat on one of Mark's Beaufort County focus groups in 2020 in the boat crash case. That did not happen. Now, where did that come from then, right? Do trolls go into their outhouses and then come out with fresh new lies to share? Yeah, they do, apparently. But also, let's go back to Greg Parker's attorneys, Mark Moore and Debbie Barbier, who are or were criminal defense attorneys for Elex co-conspirators, Corey Fleming, and Russell the Feet. On March 31st of this year, they filed a list of people they said they planned to call as witnesses in the civil conspiracy case,

Starting point is 00:05:57 and they did something truly duplicitous. During my deposition by Parker's attorney Mark Moore, I shared the names of the people I remembered asking to take part in Mark's Beaufort County focus group. None of those names was Christine Avery, because that did not happen. And yet, in the witness list, there's a grouping of potential witnesses under item number 12, where Mark Moore and Debbie Barbier list the names of the people I remember asking to take part in the focus group. But there's one name in there. One, that I did not say, because again, it never happened. But there it is, among the list of the legitimate names of the people I shared information about the focus groups with, Christine Avery. And under that, it says, these witnesses are expected to have knowledge regarding their contact and or participation in a mock jury and or focus group relative to the boat crash case.

Starting point is 00:06:52 Why would Christine Avery be expected to have any information about that? The only reason to include Christine Avery's name in the witness list was to do what we've recently learned is called narrative washing, and it apparently worked. Parker's attorneys created a public record with Christine's name dishonestly attached as a potential witness, and the trolls, doing no research and no reporting furthered the lie by sharing it. To the surprise of no one on our team, by the way, Seton Tucker, with impact of influence, a humant anti-fan of ours, and someone who's seems very aligned with anything anti us, was quick to pluck out Christine's name in that filing and do a coy little post about it, thereby validating a lie and kept it up even after being told it was factually incorrect. Grace, I hate to have you do this, but will you read that post? Regarding all the recent filings in the Beach v. Parker quote-unquote outrage lawsuit,

Starting point is 00:07:50 and defendant's answers to first interrogatories, Christine Avery, as mentioned, as a potential witness. A person named Christine Avery allegedly wrote the email to Judge Newman regarding Myra Crosby, Eger, which ultimately led to her dismissal in the Murdoch murder trial. Avery claimed Myra was discussing the case outside of the courtroom. Question mark emoji, is this the same Christine Avery? According to the filing, quote, these witnesses are expected to have knowledge regarding their contact.

Starting point is 00:08:26 regarding and slash or participation in a mock jury and slash or focus group relative to the boat crash case, end quote, side eye emoji. If it is the same person, Avery is connected to the, quote, outrage lawsuit as well as Murdoch. It's a small world, Earth emoji. According to Mark Tensley, who commented on this post, Seton Tucker did not reach out to him to ask whether this was true. whether the Christine Avery sat on one of his focus groups, which again, she didn't. That's not true. Instead, Seton just continued to push the false narrative.

Starting point is 00:09:09 That said, there you have it, James Laston. That is the origin story of how and why you were apparently used by Dick Harpoolian and crew. And again, you should have called us. We have receipts, and we're going to show you a lot of them today. Speaking of, pst, y'all head to Beth Braden's Instagram and TikTok accounts to hear her appalling phone call with the New Yorker writer James Laston. It's stunning how this man acts when confronted with the truth. Okay, so in the past, we have told you some about our communications with Christine Avery, who I think of as a whistleblower.

Starting point is 00:09:50 But we've never shared the full story and the messages because honestly, I never thought that this dumb troll rumor would reach the dang New Yorker. But here we are in Stupid Land. So I went back and I dug up every piece of information that I could find on what happened with Christine Avery and Luna Shark on Discord with the help of my friend Ali Pavlitch, who used to work for Luna Shark. Allie is amazing. We have been friends since the fourth grade, and I would trust her with my right arm. Christine was one of a few hundred people who DM me on various platforms on February 27, 2023. And of course, I didn't see it. Around that same time, Katie Couric sent me a DM that I didn't see for over a week. I was incredibly hard to reach during the trial so that I could focus.

Starting point is 00:10:44 It was a busy time, I'm telling you. Now, I promise to do better next time around because of all of this. Anyways, at the time, Allie was working at Luna Shark as a contractor, community leader for our premium platform, and she was an administrator for our Discord channel, which was a private platform for members to chat about Cases and Connect. At around 4 p.m. February 27, 2023, Christine Avery sent Alley the following message that I will have Grace read as Christine. Good afternoon. Are you an admin here on Discord?

Starting point is 00:11:22 I have some info I would like to relay to Mandy or Liz. It's about a juror. I'm local to Walterboro. I don't really know what to do with it and it's been bothering me all day. Ali said, yeah, I can relay a message to them. And then Christine responded with this. I messaged Mandy on Twitter. I don't want to be involved whatsoever.

Starting point is 00:11:44 But the one female juror that works on the monkey floor, farm is my co-worker's landlord. She came out and told my coworker, she's a juror, and Alex is innocent. I don't see where she should be doing this. I don't want my info or my coworker involved, but at same time, if she's came out and said it to my coworker, who knows who else she's talked to and such. I just feel like it's wrong of her. Maybe it's nothing, but like the judge said jurors aren't allowed to discuss the case or that they are a juror. Please, I don't want my name outed the I mentioned this to you or Mandy's crew. I just didn't know rather to tell y'all or who.

Starting point is 00:12:27 I don't want to mistrial. Allie then said that she would pass the message onto the team and Christine said, Yes, ma'am, thank you. Ali then sent a screenshot of her messages to me. Then Liz and I figured it would be best to tell our co-host, Attorney Eric Bland, who was in direct communication with Creighton Waters at the time. Allie then followed up with this message at 7.11 p.m. that night. Hi, can we tell the prosecution we've heard from an anonymous source?

Starting point is 00:13:00 The Monkey Farmer Juror is talking about the case. This would allow Judge Newman to ask her if she has talked to anyone. Christine said, sure, just do whatever you think is best. So then Eric Bland contacted Creighton. That night, Creighton then asked Eric to ask me to ask the source, Christine, for more information, and then asked her to call them. As a team, we decided it was best to encourage Christine to contact Judge Newman directly because we all predicted that Team Murdoch and the trolls,

Starting point is 00:13:35 who had already made our lives miserable during the trial with their lives, would do what they always did, take the truths, make it dirty, and blame it on us. The best thing for us to do at that moment was to tell Christine to contact Judge Newman and make an immediate record of what she knew. The court would then investigate those allegations and we would be left out of it. At 8.25 a.m., February 28th, Allie sent the following message to Christine. Hello! This information could be really important for the trial. Creighton asked for more information slash for you to email Judge Newman.

Starting point is 00:14:14 I trust that he will keep you anonymous. Could you email him with all the information you have? See Newman SC at SCCccccccccccc.org. Link to Newman's contacted though. And then she said that she sent her email within an hour. We don't have that email. Which you would think we would if we were a part of some conspiracy to use Christine for Egg Ladies' removal.

Starting point is 00:14:37 Also, these were the only instructions anyone from our team ever gave Christine for that email. We did not tell her what to say. We simply asked her to email the information that she told us to the right source. Nevertheless, the troll theory adopted by the big boys over at Team Murnock Clubhouse have leaned into the troll's absolutely made-up story

Starting point is 00:15:03 that one of us or Mark Tinsley or Eric Bland wrote the email and attributed it to Christine or something like that, which is insane. And for years, Christine has been correcting this online, to no avail. On May 18, 2025, someone using the Twitter handle at Not Ashley again commented on a post by crime and cask on which Christine was also commenting, and she directed this comment. to Christine. It's no longer anonymous. So much for that anonymity, huh? You sent an anonymous email just to announce to all of the internet that you're the one who wrote it. And then there's a face palm emoji, and then she wrote in all caps, smart. I don't know who not Ashley is, but she has a very weird

Starting point is 00:15:51 sense of what all of the internet means. According to analytics on May 27th this year, only 52 people have seen that post. Christine, whose Twitter handle is her full name, responded to her with this. I never wrote an anonymous email. If I wanted it to be anonymous, I would have made a fake email and used a fake name. Not once did I. I've had the same email for many years now. So I pointed out that Christine used her full name on Twitter because none of the other dillweeds do. The yap, yep, yep, yep behind these opaque profiles like cowards. And I would say, by the way, Ashley, not Ashley, it's up to Chris. to say how, why, and when she decided to tell people who she was. But there's no winning there. They are determined to see what they want to see. On May 17, 2025, Jim Seidel, the felon, posted on Twitter under crime and cask investigations. At no point does the article identify any individual as the author. It simply poses a straightforward question, who actually wrote the email? To which Christine responded, you know who wrote the email. You know no one guided me in doing so.

Starting point is 00:17:03 as to whoever sent you discord images didn't send them all. On that same day, a menace going by the name low country lady asked Christine. So, who wrote the email? Matney or Tinsley? To which Christine responded, Um, Mandy, Liz, or Tinsley didn't write the email. Stop believing the stuff he, and she's referring to Criminacke's Jim Seidel, I imagine, says, please, it will all come out eventually, believe me. Christine was right, it will all come out.

Starting point is 00:17:31 And I hope this serves as an adequate warning to anyone who continues to perpetrate any of these lies. Christine wrote Christine's email, and Christine reached out to us. We had no idea who she was. Now, I want to point out the fact that there was a reason Christine came to us. We have developed a reputation for protecting sources and doing the right thing when it comes to speaking truth to power. We were a safe place for Christine, who was frightened but felt like she needed to speak. up and we told her what to do with that information after consulting the best sources available to us as anyone with integrity and concern for the integrity of the trial would have done.

Starting point is 00:18:13 I also have to point out that hundreds of reporters were fighting for pieces of exclusive information on anything related to the Murdoch trial at the time and we chose not to take that information and exploit it. We chose to tell the source to go directly to Judge Newman because again what she was saying was that there was a juror violating a court order. The court needed to find out if that was true or not. And like we keep saying, they did. They absolutely found out that it was true. Let's go back to Becky and the Facebook post that she wrongly attributed to Myra Crosby's ex-husband, and let's talk about how James Ladsden portrayed that as a failed Plan A of sorts, necessitating the alleged execution of the so-called Plan B, the non-existent plot to send Judge Newman

Starting point is 00:19:00 a so-called anonymous email from a so-called anonymous source. Again, there is a difference between asking that your name be kept out of something and not telling anyone who you are. Christine said who she was from the beginning, and she said she did not want to be named in this. More on that after a quick commercial break. You know me, I dig until I find the truth, and it turns out that same instinct that drives my investigative journalism,

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Starting point is 00:20:47 You know, that non-existent Plan A, in James Lassen's words, concerted attempt to have a juror moved. And the email was old Plan B, as James called it. But that is not the right timeline. On February 27, 2023, the day we got the message from Christine on Discord, we asked Eric Bland, our co-host and Cup of Justice, to tell prosecutor Crichton Waters about it and ask what we should do. So that means the court was likely,

Starting point is 00:21:12 informed that evening before Christine sent the email. But here's what Becky told Judge Newman about the Facebook post on February 28, 2023. In the in-camera hearing that was held about this with the prosecution and the defense and a court reporter present, Elizabeth Blanchard will read for Becky Hill and David will read for Judge Newman. I think it was Friday evening just for a brief moment. I perused Facebook, got on Walterboro word of mouth. and saw where someone had said that, well, it was the ex-husband of a juror.

Starting point is 00:21:48 And he said that he noticed that his ex-wife was saying that she was on the jury and saying stuff about how her verdict was going to be. And that he was the ex-husband, but she was known for talking way too much. And then I just kept on scrolling because that was enough for me. I've gotten enough. And how did you determine who he was talking about? When I heard there was an email on Monday, I figured the two went together if it was true. Remember how he said that Becky stuck her nose somewhere it didn't belong?

Starting point is 00:22:25 And remember how Judge Newman made it a point to put it on the record that this bizarre Facebook thing Becky brought up had nothing to do with his reasons for releasing Egg Lady Jur. Christine did not email Judge Newman until the morning of February. February 28, 2023. So if Becky did indeed bring up the Facebook post to Judge Newman, after she learned about the message regarding Myra Crosby, which at the earliest would have been the night before, maybe possibly from Creighton directly, or maybe Creighton emailed Judge Newman that night and Becky saw it. But then, how exactly would that be plan A to plan B, as James Lasden put it. How would Becky at this point know that this plan A didn't work? Especially,

Starting point is 00:23:18 as we said, before they were talking about reaching out to the alleged ex-husband on February 28th. It is ridiculous. And again, Becky had nothing to do with what the New Yorker called Plan B. Christine Avery does not know Becky. If she did, one would think Christine would have contacted Becky directly instead of going through all the leaps and bounds of messaging me on Twitter and then when I didn't respond, she found our premium Discord channel's admin contact Ali and asked her to relay a message to us. That would be a lot of hoopla for a plan B setup, right? Because there was no plan B, guys. We can verify that with this timeline of Christine's email being completely separate from Becky.

Starting point is 00:24:10 It was Becky, who again, screwed up by sticking her nose where it should not have been. So after Christine sent the email and after the in-camera hearing, Sled agents interviewed Crosby's tenants individually at around 9 p.m. that evening, according to two memorandums of interview.

Starting point is 00:24:30 That same evening, February 28, 23, Becky, who apparently wasn't busy enough, allegedly hosted her little sealed evidence jamboree with Willfolks. That would seem like a counterproductive move for someone fully focused on getting Egg Lady removed from the jury, right? To create a situation in which, if discovered, could have sent the case into a mistrial. Not really the actions of someone wanting a guilty verdict. So a lot was going on that night. I'll have David read what the sled agent wrote about his interview with the female tenant. The female tenant stated Myra Crosby liked to gossip.

Starting point is 00:25:15 Initially, Webb stated that Myra Crosby did not disclose any information about the trial after she informed them she was a juror. Later, during the interview, Webb disclosed that Myra stated, quote, As of right now, there was no evidence beyond a reason of, doubt that would make her think he was guilty, but I'm not supposed to be talking about anything, end quote. And here's what Slet's report said about the mail tenant. Special Agent Kirby told Dandridge that there was an allegation that someone spoke with him about the Murdoch trial. Dandridge replied with, quote, no, not really, end quote. He explained the importance of being honest about the incident. He

Starting point is 00:26:03 thought for a short time and said, quote, one of the jurors was at our house, end quote. Dandreds was asked who the juror was and he said, Myra Crosby. Special Agent Kirby asked Dandridge how he knew that Myra Crosby was a member of the jury and he said, quote, she, Myra Crosby, told us she was a juror, end quote. He explained that on or about February 18, in 2023 at approximately 9 a.m. while at his residence, his landlord, Myra Crosby, and her husband, John Timmy Crosby, delivered a replacement refrigerator. Also, in the residence was Dandridge's fiancée, Deborah Webb. While inside the residence, Myra Crosby asked Dandridge and Webb if they had been keeping up with the Murdoch murder trial. Myra Crosby then explained that she was a member of

Starting point is 00:27:00 the jury for the trial. Dandridge, Webb, John Crosby, and Myra Crosby then began having a brief discussion about the case and what the outcome of the trial would be. Myra Crosby said that she was not sure if Alex, quote, did it, or she, quote, didn't think he, Alex Murdoch, did it, end quote. He also thought Myra Crosby may have said something to the effect of, quote, I, Myra, don't think he is guilty." End quote. Now, I know we've taught y'all well. We don't know what was actually said in the interview because we don't have the transcript.

Starting point is 00:27:46 This is just a written summary. There is apparently a recording of this interview I would like to hear sometime. However, this wasn't a criminal investigation. There was no burden of proof to reach. They just needed to find out if Myra Crosby, had violated the rule to not speak about the case. To confirm this, two attorneys from Alan Wilson's office met with the tenants and they signed affidavits. The court then held an in-camera hearing meeting on March 1, 23 to further examine the accusations.

Starting point is 00:28:20 During the in-camera hearing, Busy Body Becky inserted her flimsy Facebook investigation that went nowhere. An egg lady denied talking to her tenants about the child. trial and she said that she was there with her husband. And according to Creighton, it was Dick Harputtlyan himself who said they need to get Myra's husband on the horn and figure this all out. Here is what Creighton said happened next. Juror 785 called their spouse, put them on speaker, and upon brief examination by the court, juror 785's spouse said the juror, quote, was talking with my tenant's girlfriend, I think. And you know, I know they talked about the trial, but I don't know to what extent if you know what I mean, end quote. Transcript 5724 through 25. The spouse further explained,

Starting point is 00:29:18 quote, nobody was saying like, you know, guilty or innocent, but they were talking about some of the facts that had come out in the case either way, you know, end quote. You guys, her own spouse said on speakerphone in front of the judge, the prosecution, the defense, and a court reporter that she was chit-chatting about the trial. Three independent sources who were not Christine, the source who reached out to us with secondhand information, told the court that the egg lady violated a court order, including her own husband. The next day, March 2nd, the final day of trial, egg lady was dismissed, and the world has never heard the end of it. Dick and Jim didn't object to her getting booted because ostensibly they knew she did violate the order. And they knew that Judge

Starting point is 00:30:06 Newman didn't just rely on Sledd's reports or the prosecution's affidavits. He watched the interview videos himself. Of course, that's never mentioned in any of Eleg Murdoch's filings. In their press conference earlier this month announcing Elyke's lawsuit against Becky, Dick actually addressed this because he obviously was going to have to address it at some point, knowing what he wants to do with this complaint. Have a listen. So we think there's going to be plenty of things that weren't looked into, and we want to look into those. And the question is, and Jim and Phil and I've been talking about this, did she do it alone? Did she have somebody help her with this?

Starting point is 00:30:46 And if you were sitting in the judge's chambers like we were, when she brought in information on the jury, you would call the egg lady, we call Mara Crosby, and listened to what she had. to say one time it was totally made up about some Facebook page the second time inexplicitably a a anonymous email came to the judge we weren't told about it was investigated by the Attorney General's office and Sled without us being involved no guardrails on that but I mean and call us naive because we were we didn't press that and I I I looked back on We should have, for 2020 high sight, we maybe should have taken a little more aggressive. But we still couldn't have kneeled that onion back then.

Starting point is 00:31:45 But we will now. Did Becky do it alone? Do what, dick? Stick her nose into the situation, trying to be in the know, trying to act important? Yeah, I would say so. David, will you read from the November 2020 response filing from the state? In the filing, the state attributes their assertions to specific passages in the in-camera transcripts, meaning this is all on the court record. It's not hyperbole.

Starting point is 00:32:11 It's not mischaracterization. After some discussion about the feasibility of finding the devil afflicted, suspected ex-husband, the court asked if the parties wished to locate him. Counsel Harputlian very clearly declined. Quote, I think no, Judge. I think if you would just accommodate me, bring juror 785 in, ask them about the specifics of the conversation. If juror 785 says yes, I'll have no complaints whatsoever." The court complied with Counsel Harputlian's request, again summoned juror 785, informed them

Starting point is 00:32:50 the court had met with the tenants and asked if the juror could recall anything further about the conversation. Juror 785 acknowledged delivering the refrigerator and that the tenants had expressed opinions to her about the trial, but denied expressing any of the jurors' thoughts to the tenants. After discussing Juror 785's ruse to claim they were in, quote, Facebook jail, end quote, during the trial and irrelevant particulars of their employment. Counsel Harputlian astutely observed that juror 785 placed her spouse at the scene of the conversation. and Jim were a part of the entire process. What Dick might be referring to is the night before Christine emailed the judge. When we weren't sure what to tell her, and Eric Bland contacted

Starting point is 00:33:46 the prosecution to ask what to do. So yes, the prosecution knew about the complaint before Dick and Jim did, but not for long. And again, Dick and Jim were consulted on the record about the inquiry into Myra. They were able to make their own arguments. And don't forget, it was Dick who suggested that they call Myra's husband, who verified that she did, in fact, speak about the case in violation of Judge Newman's instructions. So real quick, let's talk about the party line on Myra. Dick and Jim are careful to say that Myra had not made up her mind yet on ELEC, but that she was leaning toward not guilty because she did not believe that the prosecution proved its case.

Starting point is 00:34:33 Stick a pen in that. Myra believes that she was targeted by Becky in the fake helpers because Myra wasn't convinced of Ehrlich's guilt. But how could Becky and the fake helpers know to target Myra if Myra had not expressed her thoughts on Ehrlich out loud? Again, Myra's husband, her current husband, confirmed that she had been talking about the facts of the facts of the same. the case outside of the courtroom. The tenants can deny they said anything all they want

Starting point is 00:35:03 to Myra, but Judge Newman watched their interviews, and he concluded that they said what they said. And the New Yorker completely left that out, which again, watch Beth's TikTok y'all. This was not a conspiracy or a targeted effort to eliminate a juror. Judge Newman himself watched the videos of what the tenants said. He heard her husband, confirm what was said. She broke the rules. Judge Newman had every right to eliminate her as a juror because her integrity as a juror who did not follow directions and apparently lied about her actions absolutely compromised the integrity of the trial. Not that it mattered, I guess, since we're back here doing this again. Have you all noticed how different Myra's behavior is compared to every other juror?

Starting point is 00:35:57 Her sloppy, spiteful comments on social media, her suddenly buddying up to Elyke's biggest TikTok supporter, the felon, in writing a whiny book with him about how she was victimized. I feel like that behavior didn't come out of nowhere. That behavior seems to be of someone who is used to the rules not applying to them, and then gets really angry when they're called out on it. Does that sound familiar? back to the coordinated effort between Tim Murdoch and their apparent troll partners that's happening right now predictably on the day the New Yorker story was published after fact checkers

Starting point is 00:36:38 fixed the lies that Mark Tinsley says were in the unpublished version the felon posted a very long story on his website saying the recent New Yorker examination of the Murdoch case appears to elevate the anonymous email and juror 785 controversy from a side story into a central issue. Uh, yeah, duh. Wasn't that the point of the apparent plan dummy? Make something out of nothing and hope it works by virtue of the gas nuggets who readily carry fart water for dick? I don't want to go into what this mostly AI slop story says, but I do want to point out that either the robot author or the human author got the facts wrong. According to the felon story, the New Yorker quote described Becky Hill's conduct as part of a

Starting point is 00:37:25 broader, quote, breathtaking and disgraceful effort that ultimately led South Carolina's Supreme Court to overturn Murdoch's murder conviction. Nope, that's not what the story says. James Ladsden was quoting the South Carolina Supreme Court ruling, quote, the breathtaking and disgraceful effort of Hill to undermine the jury process is unprecedented in South Carolina. And he never used that phrase to describe any so-called conspiracy or broader effort. And we'll be right back. Now, let's talk about a few more ways the trolls and team Murdoch

Starting point is 00:38:16 continue to exercise willful ignorance and how they report what they say are the facts. In Myra Crosby's atrocious book, she says this about Christine Avery. You may be asking yourself, was Christine Avery really that good of friends with Becky Hill? Let's have Christine answer that.

Starting point is 00:38:32 Also to note, Christine has admitted to writing the anonymous email to Judge Newman. Okay, I want you to remember that last line especially. On the next page, Myra posts a screenshot of an exchange between the Critical K and Christine on Facebook. It's not clear when it's from. Critical K says to Christine, you sit here acting like you know who emailed the judge. Unless you're Becky or someone close to her, you can't know.

Starting point is 00:38:56 Christine responded to her. I know her better than anyone on this planet. Christine is referring to herself as the author of the mother-effing email. The Critical K was saying, you're acting like you know, and Christine was like, because I do. Christine has repeatedly told the trolls before this book was published that she doesn't know Becky

Starting point is 00:39:16 and is not and never has been friends with her. It's all made up. Back to Dick and Jim and their theory, Myra was the critical juror, which is why she was removed by a band of ghost raccoons. I want to do a quick dot connection for everyone. One, Myra, who the trolls and Team Murdoch says was undecided in her vote

Starting point is 00:39:37 at the time she was booted from the jury, was not as undecided as she claimed to be in the in-camera hearing with Judge Newman, and definitely not as undecided as Dick Jim and her attorney Joe McCullough have been careful to portray her as being. Here's what Myra said about that in her book. Grace, will you read that?

Starting point is 00:39:56 All you need for a hung jury is one person, a strong-willed person who will not be bullied by the clerk of courts, by fellow jurors, by her ex-husband, by part. or by X-Trolls. If I was on that jury one more day, March 2nd, 2023, I would have voted for what I thought and I never would have budged off of it, no matter how much the other jurors yelled at me

Starting point is 00:40:25 to be done with it. In my opinion, the prosecution did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Alex Murdoch killed his wife Maggie or his son Paul. Three other jurors that I know of also originally voted. not guilty. And I would have made four jurors against eight. As I sit here writing this, it's my opinion that Becky Hill knew all of what I just wrote. And if she wanted a guilty verdict, she and others chose the right person to fabricate stories about. And in my opinion, get me off that jury and get the guilty verdict they wanted. Let me repeat this. My vote would have been not guilty, along with three

Starting point is 00:41:06 others or one-third of the jury. For the prosecution to go out afterward and act like they won this big trial was ridiculous. They didn't win the Alex Murdoch trial. They were handed the victory on a silver platter, and again, in my opinion, I believe the prosecution knew 100% what my verdict was before I was wrongfully removed. They may not have been in on it, but I believe they knew about it beforehand and allowed it to happen and then pushed to have me be removed. I mean, she said it all. What's funny is that in the felon's hot robot garbage article about the New Yorker piece, he says, rather than ending the debate, the New Yorker article appears to intensify it.

Starting point is 00:41:56 The publication raises a larger question that still hangs over the Murdoch trial, whether the removal of one juror with unresolved questions changed the course of one of South Carolina's most significant criminal cases. That guy always tells on himself. The New Yorker piece essentially repeated all of the theories his sketchy website has been pushing for over a year now, and they didn't even mention him. Perhaps because mentioning a felon, who has his Google history, isn't all that good for the T. Murdoch brand. It should be insulting to him, but instead he's proud. Not to mention, guys, this same man threatened to show up to my Parker's deposition and caused me severe emotional distress.

Starting point is 00:42:44 And oh yeah, unresolved questions? Did this fella not read the book that he helped write? Myra is pretty clear on where she stood about Elek. And y'all, Myra herself says that she wasn't the only not guilty boat. on the jury that had she had been there, there would have been at least a third of the jury who would have voted that way. So, hmm, why would anyone seek to remove you, Myra? Can you hear your own logic, girl?

Starting point is 00:43:16 And again, why is it that the trolls, led by the felon, seemed to think that in addition to Mark Tensley knowing Christine since 2020, which is a lie, that Mark was apparently helping helping Christine compose and deliver her February 2023 email to Judge Newman? Wrong again, you losers. Mark didn't know who Christine was until August 2023 when Christine's sister-in-law contacted Luna Shark researcher Beth Braden on Discord and asked for her help because Christine was scared. Why was she scared? Because of Dick Harpulian. You remember that jurors told Sled that they felt threatened by him around that time. Well, so did Christine. The trolls, in their desperate attempt to have something, anything, that will support their lies,

Starting point is 00:44:07 have tried to twist this by insinuating that Christine had no reason to fear Dick Harpoolian unless, dun, dun, dang, she had done something wrong. Over the past few days, I've come through social media to get screenshots of Christine's comments to people who have relentlessly harangued her. It is sick and it is toxic, and it's put me in a terrible mood reading their harassment of her. On Tuesday, the felon, Seidel, posted a quote he attributed to Joe McCullough. Here's Grace with that passage. Another question raised by critics involves the authorship and writing style. Avery's public post contain obvious spelling and grammatical mistakes, while Attorney Joe McCullough previously commented hypothetically.

Starting point is 00:44:51 Quote, the hypothetical you suggest of a person with subpar English skills, linguistic, or writing skills producing a polished, urban, written product would generally and logically suggest assistance or another's authorship. Another question raised by critics? Oh, please. Name them, Mr. Journalist. Name the critics. Name them or own them yourself. I haven't read Christine's email to the judge. Has Seidel? And if so, how? It's not a public record yet. Back to Beth, Beth, Beth was contacted by Christine's sister-in-law and then Christine herself in August, Beth told us the situation that Christine was freaked out by Dick's aggressive visit and acting like she'd done something wrong. We're not equipped to give Christine advice on this, so I called Mark

Starting point is 00:45:41 Tinsley and asked him if it would be okay to give Christine his number. Christine called Mark at his office and told him about Dick and showed him a video she had taken during the interaction. Mark called Dick and told them that Christine Avery wanted him to leave her alone. Again, Mark is a decent human being. This woman wanted help, and he helped her. It's that simple. In September 23, Christine thanked Mandy and Beth for their help getting her connected with Mark. And of course, that's another thing the trolls have tried to cast as nefarious. So five, let's talk about that post. Mandy posted on Twitter about the potential for a cool fan event asking followers to make suggestions. People made suggestions, lots of suggestions for cruises. And Christine added her thoughts.

Starting point is 00:46:28 Here's Grace with that post. Local meet and greet for your premium members? I'd come. Not always on Twitter, how to make a new one. You and Beth have helped me out so much these past few months. Hi Beth. It's the person who offered to buy y'all lunch a few weeks ago in Walterboro. I'm not a troll.

Starting point is 00:46:46 Past few months, as in August and September. In Myra Crosby's book, she published the same post from Christine in a screenshot from a Discord chat. in which Christine said the following on October 15, 2023. I am the one who emailed Judge Newman about the egg juror talking. Then Dick called me after the trial and asked to meet. I recorded without him knowing. Thankfully, I did. It's helping Becky between Lunashark and Mark Tensley guiding me.

Starting point is 00:47:19 Again, Christine is referring to Lunasherk connecting her with Mark, who made the call to Dick to leave her alone. Again, when she was terrified and felt like she was being forced into signing an affidavit that she didn't want to sign. And as far as it's helping Becky, girl, we all thought that Becky was being unfairly targeted back then. That was before we saw her emails, and thou shalt not be judge for what you said about Becky in 2023. Here's what Myra dishonestly says about that post. Grace, will you read that? Christine goes on to thank Mandy and Beth Braden, both of Luna Shark, as well as attorney and prosecution witness Mark Tinsley for helping her four months.

Starting point is 00:48:06 Four months? Helping her with what exactly? Was it getting me kicked off the Murdoch jury because her good friend Becky had may have decided that I made vote not guilty? Okay, so first of all, had me. may have decided. That's like a one episode of the office when they're all reading Michael Scott's script for a movie and discover that Michael had named his worst character after Dwight Shrewd, but then changed it at some point along the way because he had misspelled one of the Dwites as Dwiggett, and Spell Check didn't catch it. I don't know for sure, obviously. But it almost seems like Myra was

Starting point is 00:48:45 plainly stating that Becky had decided that she might vote not guilty. And a scrupulous editor meant to change that to may have. Anyway, for months, really? Neither of those posts said for months. And the post that references past few months doesn't reference Mark Tinsley. So, seems like Myra's editor should, might should have, pointed that out, because that sounds very libelous to me,

Starting point is 00:49:13 to patch together two messages from two different social media platforms, and then in Myra's analysis, connect them in a way that falsely, sorry, dishonestly, concludes that Mark had been guiding Christine for months, which so would have he did, but he didn't. That said, expect a lot of this. Expect a lot of taking the truth and turning it into the world's greatest offense as we embark upon Murdoch murder trial 2.0.

Starting point is 00:49:42 Everyone is against Alec Murdoch. He can't get a fair trial in Colleton County or anywhere that Dick and Jim don't like the odds. So, expect us to be punching. back harder. We would prefer not to get into the mud with these people, but we are sick of the lies. We are sick of the attacks on our character and our credibility. We are sick of lawyers making things up and twisting the truth. And we are sick of the lazy, self-interested, easily led media regurgitating their lies with no accountability. Here's the thing. We stand by everything that we did in this situation. A Walterboro resident came to us during the trial and said

Starting point is 00:50:28 she heard from a source that a juror was acting inappropriately in breaking Judge Newman's rules that we all heard in the trial. We told that brave Walterboro resident, Christine, that the best thing for her to do would be to contact Judge Newman directly to create a record for the court. Christine wanted to stay anonymous for obvious reasons, because her telling the court would likely make her co-worker upset and her co-worker's tenant upset, and Walterboro was a small town, a small town that was under the Murdoch's power for nearly 100 years. Christine decided to be brave, though, and put her name on the email to legitimize it, so it would be brought to Judge Newman's attention as soon as possible, which it was,

Starting point is 00:51:14 and it gave Sled and the court enough clues to investigate the proper parties and determine that she was right and all the records show that she was. The juror 785, then known as Monkey Farmer Jur, because she over-identified herself during Vardier, she was breaking the rules. I think Dick already knows all of this, though. He's among several other lawyers working hard to push false theories specifically to discredit. us, Mark Tensley, and Eric Bland. He is still working really hard to plant those seeds of doubt against us. But why? Does he want to do what Deborah Barbier and Mark Moore did?

Starting point is 00:51:58 Subpoena us based on troll theories and tie us up in distracting and at times terrifying legal battles that they think will ultimately silence us? I don't know, but it was clear between between 2021 and 2023 to Dick and Jim that the Murdoch murders podcast slash Lunarshark Media was the biggest threat to their strategy. While they have most of the other few hundred reporters covering this case mindlessly repeating their lies and pushing their narrative, we were consistently calling them out week after week. While calling out those lies and working with credible attorneys like Eric Bland, Mark

Starting point is 00:52:39 Tensley, and Justin Bamberg to explain. expose the truth about Elyke Murdoch. We became known locally and internationally as a credible, reliable source for Murdoch information in a safe place for people like Christine who knew something to say something. We were a safe space for her and we encouraged her to do what we think was the right thing. And she did. Now, when I was looking at Christine's initial messages to Ali. She seems like a different person compared to the fierce, confident woman I'm now seeing on Facebook standing up for herself. After she sent the email on February 28, 2023, Christine wrote to Ali, saying, quote, I really hope he can make me anonymous. I asked him in an email and

Starting point is 00:53:29 fear for safety for myself or family, but only knew it was the right thing to do. This case has me scared to trust anyone in power here in Walterboro these days. Cut to three years later and that same woman is proudly all over Facebook correcting lies and standing up for herself. I saw a comment on a troll post in particular where Christine just said, I don't accept people bold face lying on me. I did the right thing in my eyes. And in many more eyes, I'm sorry others don't like the truth and some continue to lie. Get it, girl. Something I've learned in the past five years of podcasting is that people tend to change after they speak out despite fear of backlash. They find strength in their own voices and they realize that their fears keeping them quiet for so long

Starting point is 00:54:24 we're holding them back from being their true self. I don't know Christine personally, but I am proud of her for speaking up when she should have. And I'm sorry that Dick Rputtlian and his crew of trolls have worked so hard to discredit her. But what I can tell from her social media posts, kind of like what happened to me, it looks like now she's much braver and tougher for it. It may be this is all it comes down to.

Starting point is 00:54:53 On this podcast, where we speak truth to power week after week, we are empowering people like Christine, who are traditionally silenced by the good old boys, to use their First Amendment rights to call out bad deeds. Dynasties, like the Murdochs, have never encountered a threat like that, a threat that they cannot control. Turns out, a lot of lawyers in this state do not like us empowering people to speak up and expose injustice, because it makes their lives much harder and it takes away their power to easily lie and get away with it.

Starting point is 00:55:35 We know they want to eliminate our voices for Murdoch 2.0. But how far will they go to do that? I guess we'll have to see. If you believe in our mission to be a voice for victims, get the story straight and expose the truth wherever it leads, join Lunashark Premium today. Or when we launch our very own, Lunas Shark Premium 2.0. We are so excited to share some big news. Y'all, we need and appreciate your

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