Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #155 [Part Two] - Pink in the Courtroom: Why Greg Parker Apparently Fears Free Speech

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

[Part Two of Two] Investigative journalist Mandy Matney is still processing — but she’s not shrinking. In Part Two, Mandy begins the episode reflecting on how Greg Parker’s scorched-earth legal campaign was supposed to scare her into silence and instead flipped a switch. Then David delivers a blistering First Amendment Moses Moment, calling out Parker’s attorneys for using the court as a weapon against a non-party journalist — asking what she was wearing, how many Instagram followers she has, and why she dared to eat dinner in public. And ⁠Liz Farrell⁠ breaks down Parker’s desperate venue transfer motion, which weaponizes LUNASHARK’s own Crowd the Courthouse 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 posts as evidence of jury contamination.  Then we roll the tape: Debbie B. Barbier’s closing argument, Judge Kelly’s bench remarks, and the moment the courtroom turned. The billionaire’s lawyers claim billings in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for the failed deposition. But Parker still can’t buy or force Mandy’s silence. Let's Dive In… 🥽 🦈 Lawyers & judges: email your insights to [e-mail] Join the LUNASHARK Premium Community - Together we go further ☀️ Fresh LUNASHARK Merch designs and styles 👚 Episode Links SC Rules Governing the Practice of Law including 3.1, 3.4, 4.4, and 8.4 ⚖️ Mandy’s greatest hits binder 🌐 Liz questions Greg Parker’s motivation and his lasting legacy 🌐 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ Learn more about LUNASHARK Premium Membership at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get bonus episodes like our Premium Dives, Wherever It Leads..., Girl Talk, and Soundbites that help you Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight. Plus BTS content from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Murdaugh: Death in the Family⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ AND Mandy's book Blood On Their Hands. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support Our Show, Sponsors and Mission: https://lunasharkmedia.com/support/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quince⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hungry Root⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bombas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lunashark.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/mandy_matney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   |   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/elizfarrell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So we promised y'all last week that we would have a full episode telling y'all about the latest absurdities in the Beach v. Parker case and how my civil contempt hearing from Greg Parker and his attorneys went down. I'm still processing all of it, to be completely honest with you. We're waiting for Judge Kelly to make his decision and we hope that decision will not be forcing me to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to billionaire Greg Parker. just because Greg Parker's attorneys refused to depose me in a place where I felt safe. But can I just say something? I am so proud of myself for the person I've become in the strength I have gained through this ordeal with Greg Parker. And I hope that my fight encourages all of you to stand up for yourselves in your own fights. I know this whole thing has not been the easiest route.

Believe me, it has taken an enormous emotional toll on David, my parents, my attorneys, my friends, and me. I had a laugh in court last week when Deborah Barbier insinuated that I purposely did not attend my deposition so that I would have checks notes. Material for content creation. Girl, please. Going up against a billionaire whose loser attorneys have focused their unwanted and bad energy solely on defaming, demeaning, and destroying me in the past eight months, that would not be a good plan for content creation, especially when I am a world-renowned journalist known for exposing corruption in the justice system. This whole thing has been scary, terrifying,

actually. The stress, the tears, the fear of losing everything I built because of one deposition. It is all on the line here. I'm not grateful that any of this happened, but I am proud of how I have handled this situation with strength, grace, and integrity. When I was ambushed by Greg Parker's attorneys on April 7th, I cried on the stand because I was worried that their harassment and abuse would break me and scare me into silence. I was worried that the voice I had worked so hard on developing as a powerful voice for victims and justice would be scared into silence. after getting railroaded by the justice system myself. I was worried I would shrink back into the girl I used to be.

But none of that happened. Instead, I grew. I got tougher and braver and louder and smarter and even funnier. I believe that they thought all of this would scare me into silence, but instead it flipped a switch in me that I've wanted to flip for a very long time. When you see a courtroom full of people show up for you twice in a place four hours away from your home and thousands of miles from many of theirs, it gives you something that Greg Parker and company can never take away from you. Power and perspective.

So while we hope that Judge Kelly will make what we think is the right decision here and not force us to pay an absurd amount in Greg Parker's legal fees, we aren't going to base our worth off of that decision either. Listen, no matter what happens, we did not lose. We did not quit like they wanted us to. We did not shut up about them like they wanted us to. We did not give up on our morals or our integrity. We actually gained so much more than any amount of money

they could ever try to pilfer from us. That said, David and Liz have a lot to say about what Greg Parker and Mebbe have been up to in the last few weeks, and I'm going to give them the floor this episode. As we walk into Independence Day, July 4th weekend, I want to share some thoughts on a more important date, in my opinion. June 21, 1788. The day the U.S. Constitution was ratified.

And if anybody wants to have a real Freedom 250 party in 11 years, please let me know. Back in April, Chief Justice Kitteridge shared his state of the South Carolina judiciary with the full South Carolina legislature. In those comments, he said this. First, we in the judiciary, like you, are aware of the half-truths and false narratives that circulate on social media, podcasts, and other outlets masquerading as journalists. attacking you and our justice system. I believe you understand that judges, we are bound by ethical constraints. In those rules, prohibit judges from responding to attacks against court decisions, no matter how false or outrageous the allegation may be. I interpret this comment much differently than certain members of the media whose career is up far past its bedtime.

I believe this quote is so magnificently powerful and a reference to the importance of the First Amendment and the magnitude of why the judicial branch must protect, respect, and embrace the idea that the truth is not an enemy of the state, but rather essential to improving it, fostering respect in it and building support. of it. The truth can be hard to hear at times, but that is why the founders of this nation codified certain inalienable rights into the Constitution which most every public official,

judge, legislator, lawyer, and most public officers swear allegiance to, and certainly every soldier enlisted to defend it from enemies, foreign, and domestic. The First Amendment in its entirety reads, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. It was so salient that these were included, that the comments of the First Amendment supersede all others. Practically every word which this passage hangs signals to the heart of what is at stake

in Mandy's contempt proceedings. And the heart of it is this. An aging, ugly man named Greg Parker seems to be questing for legacy and has completely jumped the shark. Both he and his hideous attorneys want one thing they bring up in filings time and time again. They simply want Mandy's constitutionally protected freedoms. to be rescinded by dishonestly attempting to manipulate the court into thinking she doesn't respect the court's authority. An authority born from the people. It's patently obvious they want to

silence her opinions, silence her reporting, silence the voices of her supporters, and protest their peaceable assembly in our most sacredly public places, our courts. Something remarkable happened during the three months long contempt process. The gap between what was said and what the law and rules of professional conduct and rules of civil procedure require tells you everything you need to know about this case. In the courtroom, Mandy was accused of monetizing controversy, of clutching my pearls, going out in public, building revenue on conflict, of going out to dinner instead of trembling in fear from people Parker's counsel communicates with, allegedly. She was asked about swimsuits

in her own backyard, about merchandise that makes light of the threats against her. She was asked how many Instagram followers she has, how many listeners, how many people believe in our mission, how many members contribute financially to that end, how much money we make and or have, so they can take it all? She was asked whether controversy drives engagement. A journalist who has spent six years exposing corruption in South Carolina was cross-examined about coasters and magnets, and I wish they asked about bitchy little footnotes, available on lunasharkmerch.com, about her enjoyment of caviar, about how she dares to have a normal life amidst the storm of litigation, and violence brought her way.

She was told her fear was manufactured. She was asked what she was wearing. She was told that she invited whatever harassment might exist. That her voice, her gender, her thoughts, her opinions draw the fire and brimstone now upon us. She was accused of being the hero and simultaneously the victim. And it's that point that needs addressing. Yes, Deborah B. Barbier, Mandy is the hero, and you are the villain in this story. Yes, Mark Moore, Mandy is the victim of your callous and unprofessional attacks.

Yes, Jim Bannister. Similar to how Tiffany Sowers was the victim of your rapist murderer, death row client, Mandy has been dragged through the mud of strategic lawfare against her public participation. You have each attempted to silence Mandy and lied to Judge Kelly in order to do it. You invented evidence. You falsely claimed outrage. And while I tried to find information on co-counsel Ret Ricard, I'm not really sure what he does, so I'll leave him out of us. I'll say this plainly, though.

Opinions are not contempt. They are protected speech. Attending a public court hearing in whatever color you choose to wear isn't contempt. It's exercising our right to peaceably assemble. Inviting our audience to observe public proceedings is not contempt either. It's a fundamental right, perhaps a petition to the government for a redress of grievances. Suggesting safe alternatives to a deposition location is not willful contempt. It's cooperation to discover amicable and agreeable solutions between attorneys.

But you didn't want to do that, did you? Posting about your own case while a free citizen is not contempt either, and Parker's own attorneys know this. The attempts to punish a non-party journalist for exercising every procedural right available to her while trying to stay safe amidst horrid cyber-stalking and threats to our personal safety is so incredibly low, so wildly low. Mandy Matney is not the plaintiff in Beach v. Parker. She is not a defendant.

She is a journalist who reports on public corruption. And yet, here she sits. More than eight months into a legal battle over a deposition that lasted one day and has long since concluded, a deposition, the contents of which do not appear in any defendant's motion for summary judgment as to why they should be released from this litigation. It was not important to their case, not the facts, not the law, and certainly doesn't deserve all the table pounding. But ask yourself as a listener, why does this continue? And I don't think the answer has anything to do with Mandy at all. Greg Parker is embroiled in a second litigation with the Beach family after the first

wrongful death suit was settled for millions of dollars through his insurance company. Mark Tinsley represents those plaintiffs again in this civil conspiracy to intentionally inflict emotional distress case. And Mandy Matney, her mental health, her finances, her bandwidth, her supporters, her fighter flight response, her fear, her reasonable fear of physical harm befalling her, has now become something team Parker can leverage. Every motion, every hearing, every proposed order that keeps Mandy exhausted and distracted and distressed to no end is a resource drain on the people who are actually holding Parker accountable. That's not coincidence. That is strategy. In my opinion, Greg Parker and his lawyers do not want the harassment of Mandy to ever end. Because if it does, that means he will finally have to

defend against the alleged intentional infliction of emotional distress. And if justice exists, it will end with Greg Parker paying millions upon millions of dollars, which I'm sure he'll appeal and never actually pay. In my opinion, Greg Parker and his attorneys are using this assault on Mandy as a bargaining chip in settlement talks. To potentially decrease his personal liability in the suit. Civil settlement discussions and indeed lawyers exist because civilization decided that grievances should be resolved through argument, through discussion, not swords, not violence, not pistols at dawn, the privilege of bar membership, and not the kind in Utah, the license to issue subpoenas, to compel testimony, to move courts, to negotiate on behalf of others, is granted on the understanding

that attorneys would be the voices of reason, restraint, and operate in good faith. But that understanding comes with obligations. Rule 3.1 requires lawyers to only bring non-frivolous claims. Rule 3.4 prohibits conduct that unfairly obstructs an opposing party. Rule 4.4 forbids using means. that have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden a third person. Rule 8.4 reaches conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, or misrepresentation, including misrepresenting what happened in a courtroom or on social media, to the public index and to the court, and then misrepresenting all of what happened in a courtroom to the court itself.

When a lawyer stands before a judge and argues that a woman's opinions about her own case our evidence of contempt. Something has gone horribly, horribly wrong in our system, not just strategically, ethically. The courtroom is open to the public. The docket is public. The hearings are public. Sunlight is not misconduct. Wearing pink is not misconduct. People believing in your mission is not misconduct. Building a company based on exposing the truth about failures in our justice system is not illegal. Rather, it is essential to the proper functioning of that system. Enjoying the support of a loyal following should not garner the venom of lawyers just because they cannot fathom why people like Mandy, and they don't like Debbie, Mark Moore,

or Jim Bannister. They are each so horribly unlikable in their actions and revolting behavior. And on June 22nd, video of Mark Moore's menacing faces at the Sea of Pink, well, he seemed to get a visceral and disgusting satisfaction from being despised. Their strategy from the first hearing, every filing, every deposition, has been designed to terrify Mandy from exercising her voice, to convince her that any post will be catalogued and entered as evidence at the rate of thousands of dollars an hour, which they intend to bill her for. The Constitution of these United States protects speech, the press, assembly, and our right to show the system its own failures. Thankfully, Mandy has the enviable courage to stand up

for the rights of the people, and we hope that Judge Kelly sees through Parker's attempts to destroy the First Amendment and distract from the core elements of their ongoing civil battle. And there's one more vast miscalculation from Team Parker. We're not motivated by money. We're motivated by a higher calling. We're motivated to call attention to bad people, to protect the First Amendment, to raise our collective voices in preventing these unscrupulous attorneys from victimizing one additional person. We are guided by an indefixtrous. fatigable drive to expose the truth wherever it leads, and we count our lucky stars for millions of real people who show up for us, not robots and fake accounts bought and paid for.

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Oh my God, y'all. Sound the alarm. Greg Parker is in the midst of a legal emergency. According to his attorneys, Mark Moore and Debbie Barbier, there have been recent developments that the court needs to hear about immediately. Defendants Gregory M. Parker, Gregory M. Parker, Inc., doing business as Parker's Corporation, Blake Greco, and Jason DeCruz, collectively the Parker's defendants, submit this supplemental memorandum in support of their motion to transfer venue, the quote, motion filed April 7, 26. and initial memorandum in support, the memorandum, filed June 5, 26th, in order to, among other things,

make the court aware of a recent development that further supports transferring the venue of this action. The recent development is that Mandy Matney, Ms. Matney, and her podcaster colleagues, promoted a coordinated, quote, crowd the courthouse campaign directed specifically at proceedings in this case. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Ha ha ha. What? Do Craig Parker and his attorneys not have, you know, friends, people who care about them? No casual acquaintances who suffer from second-hand embarrassment around them?

No one to stop them from being this silly? I mean, I think we all know the answer. And I say silly, only because I can't think, of a word that conveys the ridiculous low these people have gone to while I also speaking to the depressing gravity of the whole thing, because this is yet another example of them ruthlessly and cruelly using Mandy and Luna Shark as cover in their case. As you all know, Greg Parker and his attorneys Mark Moore,

Debbie Barbier, and Jim Bannister, have electively pursued a, let's call it a vanity project that has cost, at least according to what we've been told, hundreds of thousands of dollars so far, to argue their motion to hold Mandy in contempt. I'm not talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars as in the cost of his defense in Beach v. Parker at Al. I'm talking about this.

Literally, this, this side road, they've decided to go down. They want to hold her in contempt because she had the audacity to ask to have the location of her deposition with them, changed from the office where Parker's attorneys wanted to hold it, to Mandy's attorney's office just half a mile away. For days, her attorneys tried to work with Parker's attorneys on this, but Parker's attorneys not only refused to budge, they refused to have the conversation. So Mandy sought emergency relief from the court, asking for the judge to intervene,

and allow her to be deposed in a place that was more convenient, more accommodating, and most importantly, a place where she'd feel safe and comfortable. Why? I mean, it's a stupid effing question. But Parker's attorneys have found 6,000 ways to ask it and 16,000 ways to answer it. In there, in my opinion, dishonest effort to make Mandy look like a scofflaw in front of the judge. I say stupid effing question because no woman should ever have to explain why she would prefer setting she feels safer in because the world doesn't stay for us on a good day. And this certainly was not a good day. This was a bad day. It was the day that the felon, Jim Seidel, the man who brokered the for Greg Parker to buy our allegedly stolen text messages in November 2025,

right around when all this started, and who has claimed to have been working with Parker's attorneys in the case, was commenting publicly about and hinting that he was going to show up at Mandy's deposition. Hence, her heightened fear. But again, we shouldn't have to outline all that for anyone, never mind over and over and over again. But here we are, literally fighting for our future. futures where we've been forced to constantly defend ourselves against this billionaire gas

station owner and his attorneys. So, and I promise this recap is almost over. On the morning of Mandy's set deposition, she showed up at her attorney's office, along with the Beach Family attorneys and the attorneys for Greg Parker's co-defendants, who are Parker's former private investigators Max Furtati and Henry Rosado? At 745 that Friday morning, Judge R. Keith Kelly rejected Mandy's request for emergency relief, according to a timestamp on the order. But nobody, at least not on Mandy's side, was told about this order. In fact, it didn't get publicly filed until Monday afternoon. Stick a pin in that for a future episode because I have some thoughts about that strange situation.

But you're with me, right? Greg Parker has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to hold Mandy in contempt for this for wanting to be in an environment that suited her safety concerns. an environment that felt less hostile to her. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. I can't say it enough. Greg Parker has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to drag Mandy through the bowels of legal hell where everyone else can see how dumb and dishonest this is,

except apparently Greg Parker and company and the court. All because Mandy wanted to be deposed in a location that felt more safe to her. Does Greg Parker have something against women who say they want to feel safe? I sure hope not. His name is on a women's shelter in Savannah, a place that helps women get back on their feet after traumatic and tragic events in their lives, which I find really weird given the abusive legal behavior we've seen in the past few months,

where he's literally using South Carolina's court system, in my opinion, to show a woman she should think twice before messing with him. Or is Greg Parker one of those people? who simply believes that things need to be black and white without any room for flexibility or change. The deposition is supposed to be held here and that's that. Or is Greg Parker against accommodating people? Well, gee, I hate to think about a convenience store owner who doesn't want people to feel taken care of, or at least accommodated. I asked these questions because I honestly don't know what's driving him.

I mean, of course, I think what's driving him is that no one in his circle is brave enough to be like, Dude, chill. And clearly he hates our opinions and the way we report on things. He also seems dug in on this big, troll baby lie that Parker's attorneys adopted from online commenters who say, with no evidence at all, because none can possibly exist since it's not true, that the Beach family attorney Mark Tinsley pays us for coverage that's favorable to him. Oh, and by the way, now that Parker and his attorneys and their very few fans for sure know this isn't true, And as they continue to wipe the troll snot off their faces, they've now shifted the argument. Now it's Liz and Mandy are not being paid by Mark, Your Honor, but they're infatuated with him.

They gushingly call him Mark the tiger Tinsley, and they coordinate coverage with him. I mean, lies, lies, lies, other than the infatuation gushing, I suppose, because, yeah, we do call him the tiger. And yeah, we refer to him as Zero Dark Tinsley. just like we call Eric Bland E.B. And state prosecutor Crayton Waters' Big Crayton Energy, or BCE, just like we call the summer of 2022, Hot Corey Summer, because the fired, fired Murdoch co-conspirator Corey Fleming, who was represented by Debbie Barbier, was out there looks maxing at the community Y before it was a thing. That's how we communicate with our listeners.

And we are absolutely happy to come up with some more nicknames, if that's the thing. the issue here. So let's see. We already have Mark J. Edgar Picklejuice Moore. Let's keep him there, since it really seems to bother him. And then there's gassy Greg Parker, aka Mr. Chewy Ice. We're also calling the Mark Moore and Debbie Barbier duo Mebby, because obviously, and we've been playing around with calling Debbie Barbier either Officer Debbie Barbier of the backyard swimsuit patrol or maybe Diabolical Debbie is more suitable. Oh, and Jim Bannister. Obviously, he's little Lord Wannister. Given that he's the guy who cried to Judge Kelly about lunashark posting on flattering photos of Parker's counsel on social media.

And stick a pin in that too for another episode because it is unbelievable. Okay, so that was a bit of a sidetrack. Back to Greg Parker and why it is he seems to see no problem with spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to punish a woman who simply wanted to be in a location where she felt safe. because of the felon and his connection to Parker's legal team and his threats of showing up at her deposition. Need, I say more. Like I said, we can only guess at the answer. One thing is for certain, though. He was not letting Mandy and her legitimate fears cause a relocation. Um, David, can we go back to Parker's filing about the recent developments? I've marked a few things for you to read.

Ms. Matney is a resident of Beaufort County, which is of course adjacent to Hampton County and in the 14th Judicial Circuit, and her media company is headquartered in Beaufort County. According to Ms. Matney, she has many thousands of supporters in the low country region, while her promotional campaign against the Parker's defendants, and their counsel has certainly amped up in the past eight months, she has waged a years-long public influence campaign against the Parker defendants, which was set forth more fully in the Parker's Defendant's Memorandum, the recent social media post, which was posted on or about June 20, 24th, 2026, as seen below,

urges supporters to appear at the Beaufort County Courthouse wearing pink, to demonstrate solidarity with plaintiffs and to display a visible show of force during the litigation. Ms. Matney's campaign is not merely commentary on matters of public interest, nor is it designed to show support for her and her interest. as her previous crowd the courthouse campaigns relative to her contempt proceedings. The Post expressly states that, quote, the pink presence was powerful, end quote, at a prior court appearance and seeks to replicate that public demonstration

during future proceedings in this case in which Ms. Matney's interests are not directly affected. Hang on. Greg Parker and his attorney's finally admitting that Mandy has nothing to do with this case? I mean, dagnam it, Officer Debbie. Dagnamet, Pickley Jay and Mr. Choochoo and Wannister and Mebby. I thought y'all said Mandy was a critical part of your defense. No? Isn't that why it was imperative that you depose her?

And then remember in April how you told Judge Kelly that Mandy's deposition was so important to your case that you were going to now need two days to depose her. You brought her into this case, plain and simple, and your best argument for doing that is this. David, will you read a few lines from a bitchy little footnote in their June 24th memo in opposition to the Beach Family's motion for sanctions against the Parker's attorneys? As set forth in prior filings,

it is indisputable that Ms. Matney and her colleague Ms. Ferrell have collaborated with Plaintiff's Council. In July 2020, Ms. Matney published a blog article that uses a direct quote from Plaintiff Renee Beach's statements in the video that is the subject of this action. At minimum, it is clear Mr. Tinsley fed Ms. Matney a quote from Ms. Beach for inclusion in Ms. Matney's purported news reporting. Right, right, right.

And will you read the quote that Mr. Tinsley, where's my head? Sorry. The tiger said to Mandy that proves their indisputable collaboration. I'm going to cover my eyes and cover my ears while you read it because I don't think I can bear witness to something that sounds just so corrupt and salacious. Quote, I think that's the problem. Parkers is not training them properly. So that's why kids are coming in with fake IDs or using their brother's IDs, and they're not trained. So they don't know what to look for. If they would start training them properly, it would help save someone else's life.

End quote. Wait, oh, no, you read it before I was ready. My eyes, my ears. How could Mark Tinsley have fed this quote from his client Renee Beach to Mandy Matney, a reporter? who asked for a quote from his client, Renee Beach. I mean, what does journalism come to? Look at the collaboration there. It's so obvious.

A reporter called an attorney for a quote from his client, and he gave her one. I mean, torn feather them because collaborators. They're collaborators. Y'all, that is the best that Parker's attorneys have been able to come up with when it comes to their reasoning as to why they needed to depose Mandy in the first place. to ask her about a quote that she had gotten from Mark Tinsley, that Mark gave her a quote from his client that was used in a mediation video that the client paid to make.

It's really sick that the court let this deposition happen in the first place. And it's sicker that Greg Parker and his attorneys continue to use this example with a straight face as they've continued to drag Mandy into this case for months now just because they can afford to and just because the court is letting them. But now it's she has no part in this, Your Honor. She has no interest here. She has no reason to want to stand up and speak out and rally support in favor of a legal system that doesn't tolerate this kind of nonsense from lawyers and their well-heeled clients.

She doesn't have any reason to want to reclaim her professional reputation, which Greg Parker and his attorneys have sought to diminish and destroy. I think, could these people be any less serious? Again, back to the questions about why Greg Parker would spend so much money to make a point about Mandy for pursuing a simple relocation request. There is an extreme irony here, a sick irony, as one listener of our show put it on Instagram. Sorry, so they ridiculed you for wanting to relocate away from a felon, but they would like to relocate away from checks notes. People in pink clothing. Yes, girl, that is it in a nutshell. And you weren't the only one to see through Parkers.

Several listeners have pointed this out to us on social media. Stocker fear is not valid, but fear of pink clothing is valid. And get this. On Monday, the felon, aka the allegedly stolen text message broker for Greg Parker, posted a photo outside the parking garage at the Lexington County Courthouse, shortly before Ehrlich Murdoch's first pretrial hearing in his second murder trial. David, can you read what the felon said? Murdoch Murders 918 a.m.

All the attorneys are in the courtroom, Craton Water, John Meadors, Sled agent Peter Rodowski, Jim Griffin, Dick Harputlian. The entire media show is here. No sight of Mandy and Liz. So I don't know about you, but when I see a photo of a parking garage instead of, I don't know, the courthouse, a courtroom, and a comment from a man who has caused us nothing but trouble for months now about how there's no sight of Mandy and Liz. It makes me think that the person posting that photo and making that comment is waiting for us, keeping an eye out to see if we show up, positioning himself to pounce on us, which is weird. We have never had colleagues, actual colleagues and actual journalism, which we do not consider him to be one, but he considers himself to be. Post about whether we were at an event they were covering.

And, you know, I don't want to hear a single person say, well, maybe he was posting that because y'all are the ones most synonymous with the Murdoch story and you weren't there at the courthouse and maybe he thought that was newsworthy. No, no, no, no, no. Like I said, post a picture of the courthouse, if that's the case. Don't post a picture of the place where you would stand to monitor the people arriving and leaving the courthouse. Or you know what? How about post nothing whatsoever about two women who have repeatedly cited the many ways you and your fixation on them and their careers continues to make them feel unsafe?

But also, thank you for doing that because it further proves our point. You are out there and you are watching for us. courts might not see it, the police might not see it, your probation officer might not see it, but we and our list owners know better. There is no good ending to fixations like this. They only escalate. And we are calling it out because there's safety in numbers. And at this point, we have no other option when it comes to making you stop. The number of women we have heard from who have had to deal with something similar to this is really depressing, by the way. It's so common and these people are so good at going right up to the line, right up to the line, right up to the line,

before they finally cross it. John Monk, the longtime veteran reporter at the state newspaper, has done nothing but mock Mandy and ridicule me as it relates to this case. Greg Parker has spent, and I hate to say it again, but hundreds of thousands of dollars to try and invalidate Mandy's safety fears in front of the court. An officer Debbie swimsuit misrepresented the content of a so-called bathing suit photo of Mandy to get the court to doubt her actual fears about this person. So the only thing left is sunlight.

We have to fight this by turning the lights on to the brightest level. Stick a pin in that. We'll be right back. And speaking of sunlight, let's talk about the lies in the courtroom and in their filings. And by the way, people get weird about that word lies. They want us to soften it in some euphemistic way so as not to offend the lawyers or the court or whoever, but I don't know, you tell me what this is. This is how it feels in our opinions. During Mandy's hearing, June 22nd, Officer Debbie Swempsuit seemed determined to get the judge to see Mandy as someone who not only hated South Carolina's noble legal system, but as someone who had no respect for the judge personally or his orders. One of the things Officer SwimSuit latched on to was whether Mandy was allowed to talk about her May 15th testimony. On May 15th, Judge Kelly gave Mandy two sets of instructions on that.

One was for the lunch break. Don't speak to anyone about your testimony. And then one was for the end of the day when we broke for what was at that point an unknown amount of time. Judge Kelly's instruction to Mandy was not to talk about her testimony with her attorneys, which she didn't. but let's listen in. Thank you, Your Honor. I will do that. Ms. Matney, do you recall during the break,

the judge told you that day not to speak to a single soul about your testimony? Yes. Okay. And then before we broke for the day, he also told you not to speak to your attorneys about your testimony, correct? Correct.

Okay. And then as soon as you left this courtroom, you began making social media posts about the hearing about your testimony didn't you? Objection mischaracterization are. I was not told that I could not speak about my testimony. I was told that I could not speak with my lawyers about my testimony. Well, Ms. Matney, if you'll turn to page 84 and read the first paragraph out loud. Oh, this is during lunch though. Okay. You were still a live witness, correct?

Yeah. Okay. Your Honor, this mischaracterizes the transcript. If you look at page 108, you have the court's admonition of you don't talk to your lawyers, and they know not to talk to you about your testament. Your Honor, you clearly instructed Ms. Matney not to speak to a single soul about her testimony. She was a live witness. We broke before she had finished testifying. You again told her not even to speak to her lawyers about her testimony.

and the first thing she did when she left was start making social media posts about it, and then she dedicated an entire podcast to this hearing and her testimony and solicited legal advice from lawyers and asked them to call her so that if they had any ideas, they could help with her defense. That is a clear violation of the court's rules, Your Honor. It is demonstrative of her contemptuous conduct for this court and this court's instructions. And court, I believe, needs to factor that into the punishment that is rendered here in her contempt hearing. Any after cited podcast or out-of-court statements, Ms. Barbee is relaying to the court, would be hearsay, the object to the same.

Additionally, it has no bearing on what the issue is in this proceeding, which is whether or not it has locally divided court order on terms of 27. 2008, 6. Additionally, Ms. Barbie is mischaracterizing the court record in which it is clear that the admonition not to talk to a soul was for lunch. And then we clarify both at the sidebar, Your Honor, and on the record that Ms. Matten was just not to speak to Ms. Lindel or myself regarding her testimony. So, obviously, there is a transcript of the May 15th hearing and audio. So let's listen to what was actually said first. Here's what Judge Kelly told Mandy at lunch. All right, ladies gentlemen, we are going to, we are going to recess at this time, 60 minutes to reconvene at 2.15, 2.15.

Not everybody get a chance for rest and felt. It gets one. Ma'am, you may leave the stand. You cannot talk to a single soul about your testimony, understand? Yes. Nothing. Okay. Can we provide lunch for her? We don't talk about her testimony. But she can't talk to others, just not about her testimony. Don't talk to anyone about your testimony, right? Now, it was very clear that Judge Kelly was not expecting this hearing to extend beyond the time allotted for it,

which is notable because Mandy has a right to defend herself against Parker's allegations of contempt. It seems like Judge Kelly was a little bit surprised by that, but maybe I'm wrong about that assessment. At any rate, the schedule became an issue. It wasn't clear when the gang would be able to get back together for Mandy's cross-examination by Officer Deb. So Judge Kelly gave Mandy instructions about who she was barred from discussing her testimony with. Ma'am, you may leave the witness stand. You are not to talk to your lawyers and they know not to talk to you about your testimony. You understand?

And you'll be asked that question when we reconvene under oath, okay? Okay, you may leave the stand. It seems pretty clear. During the lunch break, Judge Kelly didn't want Mandy talking about her testimony with anyone. And for the undetermined recess, which took weeks, he only instructed her not to discuss her testimony with her attorneys. Meaning, your attorneys can't strategize with you about how your testimony went and how it needs to go moving forward. Again, this isn't a criminal trial, and Mandy isn't one of many witnesses. There's no fear of her coordinating her testimony with others.

All the questions are about her. So this is the thing. Debbie Barbier tried to make the argument that Mandy is so disrespectful of the court that she ignored yet another order by Judge Kelly. And then she got corrected on the facts and she got corrected on what the transcript reflected. Did not, however, stop her from making the argument again. Here is Officer Deb with Eric Bland during his testimony. But you discussed all of that with Ms. Matney while she was a live witness, didn't you? you? Not with her with our audience, but she was a participant, sure. She was a part of that conversation, right?

Ms. Corby, I have no knowledge of what the admonitions of Judge Kelly were. I was not present. I told you I left at lunch. So if you had known that Judge Kelly said not to talk to a single soul about your testimony. Objection, mischaracterization of the court's statements and orders. Your Honor, I don't. I'm asking him whether or not he would have participated in this podcast, had he known that you had given her explicit instructions during the break not to speak to a single soul about her testimony. Your Honor, that was during the lunch break, and then we clarified when we adjourned to continue this hearing to today that your admonition not to talk about Ms. Matthew's testimony was bringing regards to her attorney. Okay. Mr. Bland, have you in your 38 years ever had a podcast with somebody who was a live witness

in a proceeding that had just taken a break on? Have you ever done that before? Yeah. It's a little unusual, wouldn't you say? Well, it's just the way of the circumstances square down. I've only been over one podcast. And so you would agree with me that her talking to you as a lawyer and soliciting advice from other lawyers is a circumvention of the court's order not to discuss this case with your lawyers.

Absolutely not. You don't think it's unethical and inappropriate and in violation of this court's order to discuss for Ms. Matney to discuss her testimony with lawyers after she's been told not to? Her lawyers. So all other lawyers was okay, in your opinion? She is in a podcast where she is educating the public to get them better informed about the legal system and about their own rights and their own legal needs. Well, we'll leave that to the court to decide whether or not she's actually informing them of correct procedures.

And despite being corrected by the record, Officer Debbie Barbier again brought it up during her closing arguments. Miss Matney walked out of this courthouse on May 15th, and the first thing she did was start after the court had clearly instructed her not to discuss her testimony and not to discuss her testimony with her lawyers. She went out and participated in a podcast about this hearing and about her testimony and complaining to the public about these proceedings. So, Your Honor, this matter is far more, it's much larger than this dispute. The thing about this is that this is just one example. of the hellishness that occurred on June 22nd, when Parker's attorneys would make,

in our opinions, dishonest arguments based on mischaracterizations of the facts, they would get corrected and advised of the truth, then they'd go right back to making the, in our opinions, dishonest argument again. Is that a legitimate strategy? It's almost like Officer SwimSuit thought that the mere recitation of mischaracterization would be enough to lull Judge Kelly into some sort of state where he wouldn't believe the truth. For instance, Parker's attorneys spent untold hours and untold money assembling binders of Mandy's social media posts where she had tagged herself in particular locations. Debbie's, in our opinion, dishonest argument there was, you tell the public where you are all the time. That doesn't sound like someone who is scared for her safety. I mean over and over and over

again. Mandy had to correct Debbie. No, you're wrong. I was no longer in that location when I posted those photos. And then again, no, you're wrong. I was no longer in that location when I posted those photos. And then again, again, again, no, Debbie. I have a rule. I do not post photos from locations until after I've left that location. She wasn't getting what she wanted for Mandy, so swimsuit changed her tax. When you were in these locations, did you have security? Did you Did you have private security at this restaurant, this hiking trail, this beach, this bar, your backyard? Mandy again reiterated that she never posts from the location she's in and then had to explain multiple times that she cannot afford to bring private security everywhere with her, that she's allowed to be in public and live her life and that she is always with David, her husband, who makes her feel safe.

And yet here's Debbie in her closing arguments to the judge. Yet only days before the deposition, after every other effort to avoid the deposition had failed, she suddenly asserted safety concerns. And even then, even on April 7th when she testified, she could not articulate one specific threat tied to that location. And at the evidentiary hearing, when she was asked repeatedly to identify a concrete safety concern about the law office where the deposition, was to occur, she could not do so. Instead, she spoke in vague generalities about distrust and fear. And while claiming she was too fearful to comply with a court-ordered deposition at a law office,

her own conduct reveals something very different. She traveled publicly without security. She socialized publicly without security. She dined publicly. She posted selfies publicly. She walked public streets in Savannah with her lawyer. Savannah with her lawyers, she promoted her podcasts, she promoted travel programming, she advertises upcoming public appearances, and she encouraged supporters to crowd the courthouse

for today's hearing for the hearing before this on May 15th. Right, right. So Mandy couldn't possibly be concerned for her safety on March 27th when Parker's attorneys aggressively and bizarrely refused to depose her at her attorney's office in contradiction of logic, humanity, and common practice. Parker's attorneys, who had released personal information about her and me in the public index for no valid reason at that point, Parker's attorneys, who bought stolen work product text messages in what appears to be a subpoena runaround from when we were to Fitznews and made them public.

Parker's attorneys, the very people that the felon, Jim Seidel, said he was working with, the man who brokered a deal with Parker's in the sale of those text messages, the man who was publicly indicating that he was going to be there. Again, and I warn you, I cannot say it enough, Greg Parker has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this to Mandy, to me, to David, and to the whole Luna Shark family, to turn our lives inside out over and over, all because, wait a minute, is this all because gassing Greg Parker, aka Mr. Chiuy, Mark J. Edgar Pickleges Moore, Officer Debbie Barbier of the backyard swimsuit patrol, and little Lord Wannister, are jealous of Mark Tinsley. Or is it fear? Do they fear the tiger?

Do they fear Zero Dark Tinsley? Who knows? Probably, though, right? The bigger question is, why is Greg Parker, the man who just celebrated 50 years since the creation of Parker's Kitchen and Gas, the man whose name is on a woman's shelter? Will I. willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in an attempt to ruin the lives of two women journalists. Why would a man who wants to be seen as a community leader use his vast wealth to punish, humiliate, publicly flogged, demean, embarrass, scare, hurt, harm, bully a woman who already sat for his deposition? Is he getting bad legal advice by the people who stand to gain money from this vanity project? Or is he, I don't know, exactly who he appears.

appears to be in all of this. Until next time, stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. True sunlight is a Luna Shark production created by me, Mandy Matney, co-hosted and reported by journalist Liz Farrell, research support provided by Beth Braden, audio production support provided by Jamie Hoffman and Grace Hills, case file management by Kate Thomas. Learn more about our mission and membership at LunaSharkmedia.com. Interruptions provided by Luna and Joe Peskey. You know me, I dig until I find the truth.

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