Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #23 - SHAMELESS: Alex Murdaugh’s Brother, Law Firm Try to Take Lion’s Share of Victims’ Money for Themselves + More Abuse from Dick and Jim

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Starting point is 00:00:47 or visit cupofjusticepod.com. I don't know how so many of Elik Murdoch's accomplices have managed to avoid accountability. But after more shameless actions by Alex Breather and former law partners this week, it is time to take a closer look at everyone involved. My name is Mani Matney. This is True Sunlight,

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Starting point is 00:04:47 So yet again, there is a lot to catch up on since last week. Let's start with the easiest one, Dick and Jim's apparently big mistake. So remember how in January 2022, Ellic agreed to sign a confession of judgment in the Satterfield case, which was essentially him admitting to the theft and agreeing that he owed the family $4.3 million. Obviously, we've said this a hundred times, but this was a ploy all along, so that he could look like he is capable of the human emotion called remorse, and thereby, get in the court's good graces to the point that the court would let him out of jail on a PR bond.

Starting point is 00:05:36 And the court was like, no, after the trial, in which the world saw just how guilty Elik Murdoch was of killing his wife and son. Dick and Jim surprised no one by filing a motion basically, asking the court to void the confession of judgment, which Elik had signed and executed a year earlier. Why did they do this? Well, many people, including our cup of justice co-host Eric Blan, believe it was done in

Starting point is 00:06:05 part, just to screw with Eric, meaning it was personal. But also, this confession of judgment in which Eric admits he owes the Satterfields this money, created trouble for him in the Nautilus case. Nautilus, the insurance company that paid out the bulk of the settlement in 2019 was now going after ELEC for the money he stole from them in the Satterfield fraud. So instead of Owing, $4.3 million, he potentially would owe an excess of $8 million for his theft. This is when ELEC was like, Meh, I lied about the dogs. So you shouldn't have even paid that money to quarry Fleming in the first place.

Starting point is 00:06:48 Gloria fell down the stairs on her own. Therefore, you go see her family about getting your money back. Think about how arrogant and entitled of a person you have to be and how averse you have to be the consequence to hatch a scheme using your housekeeper's family to steal millions. Get caught, watch your best friend get fired fired, and then arrested for helping you with

Starting point is 00:07:14 the scheme. Watch your law firm. The law firm, your own family, helps start a hundred years earlier. Get sued. Watch the bank that had been so generous and permissive. With you for your entire life, get sued. Be sitting in jail yourself. Hatch another scheme in an attempt to get out of jail, pretending to be sorry for the first scheme, and admitting fault for it. And then after you get convicted of killing your wife and son, which you know you did, because you sure did work

Starting point is 00:07:45 hard to cover it up. You then decide to say psych, and try to call back at the guilt you admitted to, and the money you said you owed the family, and your two lawyers, who say you aren't paying them, do all of this for you with a straight face. Then, when the judge is like, no, you can't do this, Ellic. You turn to the court of appeals to reverse that decision. Then, six weeks later, you're like, I've changed my mind on that. In the meantime, you are still making the state of South Carolina try you on these charges, even though you have already

Starting point is 00:08:26 admitted to stealing this money at least four times publicly. Through your lawyer on television in the Confession of Judgment, while on the stand in your own murder trial, and then again under oath by pleading guilty in front of a federal judge. In your not just insisting on a trial, you are insisting on a trial that happens only on your terms and when you want it to occur, which is after you've been sentenced in federal

Starting point is 00:08:54 court. But the state and court are holding firm. And now you're scheduled for trial on November 27th, but you still won't accept that, and instead, you're doing everything in your lawyer's power to stop it. The chaos of all of this is honestly just sickening. This is who the system has historically catered to. This man. Anyway, why is Team Murdock changing its mind on appealing the judge's decision on denying

Starting point is 00:09:25 them what they want to do in rescinding the confession of judgment other than to mess with Eric? We're not sure, but it appears that they realized possibly for the first time in all of this that they are dumb. That confession of judgment basically caps what the Satterfield can get from Elik at $4.3 million, which would not include the interest, nor does it account for the taxes they would not have had to pay, had their wrongful death settlement been handled honestly from the start.

Starting point is 00:09:55 By rescinding it, they would have been opening Elic up to the potential of a jury, or a court awarding the Satterfields even more damages. Can't have that happen. We talked about this on Cup of Justice. Because even though we can see what they're doing, we don't actually know what they're up to here. If Elic is broke, then what does it even matter? They're operating like this guy is going to get out of prison and get his law license back

Starting point is 00:10:23 or something. Or like he has money out there somewhere. So speaking of the Satterfield case, there are two more updates there. One is that Buford County appears who already have sent out their notices for potential jurors, and is reportedly indicating that they should plan on being sequestered for this trial should Should they be chosen? So questored. The man who broke prison rules

Starting point is 00:10:49 and who got his attorney to break prison rules by reading aloud over the phone from his alleged journal, he kept during the murder trial. So it could be recorded and played in a multi-part documentary that was used in his continuing to be used as a part of his scheme to get a new trial. He wants his juries sequestered. During his trial on charges, he has already publicly admitted to four times and twice under oath. Yeah, better get those jures locked down so they don't hear

Starting point is 00:11:21 something about elic mardock that makes them think he stole from the satir fields. The absurdity of this is astounding. So it is not clear why jurors are apparently being told of the possibility of sequestration. Is it a routine thing? Not in our experience in Buford County, but we can tell you who this would most serve if true. It would help Dick and Jim as they try to build a case that Alex financial trials are going to be so costly to taxpayers that all of these cases should be consolidated and therefore postpone. Past the current November 27 trial date and after he ascends federally, which is the goal. From what we understand, the pressure on the AG's office is real and even coming from lawmakers. You know, Dick's buddies and the legislature.

Starting point is 00:12:15 So it behooves Team Murdoch for this to look like an expensive circus in the making, from the cost of sequestering a jury to the cost of law enforcement and courthouse staff. It is staggering the links these guys will go for a trial that will not be like the murder trial. His financial cases are black and white and even though Dick indicated to reporter Eva Pilgrim at crime con that he has a few tricks up his sleeve, A.K.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.ALEC is not in their best interest. Again, it is unbelievable. Now, why does this state want to try ELEC separately in each of his financial cases? They are fighting for state accountability. Dick and Jim are trying to work the system so that Ellic can serve his time federally. In order to ensure that Ellic is kept where he is and where he deserves to be, behind state bars, the state

Starting point is 00:13:32 knows that one of their best options is to get him on the three strikes law. If they can get him convicted in three of the financial cases, then he will get life in prison without parole. I'm no state budget expert, but it sounds like that is worth it to me. And finally, our last Dick and Jim update of the day, their quest for a new trial. Now that their murder verdict appeal has been put on hold, they have officially asked the state court for a new murder trial in a 74-page filing that includes 11 exhibits That was filed in Colton County Court last Friday. This filing is word for word the same one They publicly filed with the Court of Appeals in early September. The only seeming difference is this and I need to say this In a case that is full of hot irony, it's really something to see a motion that

Starting point is 00:14:26 accuses the Colloting County Clerk of Court of tampering with a jury, stamped with the name of the Colloting County Clerk of Court to show that it has been clocked and received by her office. Honestly, it's perverse. So that's it. Dick and Jim have officially asked the court or an evidentiary hearing to prove that Becky Hill did what they're accusing her of doing, which really guys, it's been almost two months since you publicly made these accusations against her. In the meantime, the investigation has been showing that the charges you've made in this motion are not being corroborated. Plus, it's been repeatedly pointed out that the core accusation that you're making, that Becky fabricated a Facebook post to get the egg lady juror kicked off the case, has nothing to do with the actual reason she was kicked off the case. Two months have gone by and you have nothing new to add,

Starting point is 00:15:16 no other evidence you've discovered from people coming forward. Once again, these guys are all smoke and mirrors and they shouldn't be taken seriously, but here we are. It's not clear yet how this is going to go down, but so far, what a tremendous clown show and abuse of the system. On Wednesday afternoon, Dick and Jim filed a rare writ of prohibition with a Supreme Court, which we hope is their final throwdown.

Starting point is 00:15:43 We'll be talking about this more in depth next week, but suffice it to say that this 245 page filing is filled with gross exaggerations and mischaracterizations of the truth. They're asking the Supreme Court to remove Judge Newman from their cases. It's yet another step in their plan to get that November 27th court date delayed past

Starting point is 00:16:06 Alex's federal sentencing and it's yet another sign that these men know in their alleged hearts that the facts of Alex's case are bad. They're only beatable by manipulating the system and causing epic amounts of chaos. The only recourse they have, the only path to winning, is to shop around for another judge, one who, perhaps, will be more favorable to them. It is a universally held opinion that Judge Newman did his job fairly and admirably, and he was excessively fair to Dick and Jim I might add. Where he could have sanctioned Jim for his extra judicial tweet during the trial, he chose not to. Where he could have sanctioned Jim for his extrajudicial treat during the trial, he chose not to.

Starting point is 00:16:45 Where he could have sanctioned Dick for pointing a gun at the prosecution and making a joke, he chose not to. The accusations they're making against Judge Newman are despicable. And we hope that every member of the South Carolina Supreme Court acts with integrity when deciding this motion. We hope that they consider the truth, the context, and finally we hope that they consider the messengers and their history of mistating the truth in this motion. We hope that they consider the truth, the context, and finally we hope they consider the messengers and their history of mistating the truth in this case. Again, we'll talk more about this next week. It's just more games and it's gone way past audacity at this point.

Starting point is 00:17:18 If we thought for a second that Ellic Murdoch did not get a fair trial, we would call that out. So far, all we've seen in the way of evidence from T. Murdock is bluster and abuse of procedure. And if you think for one second this isn't just a trick, then ask yourself this. If what Judge Newman did was so egregious that it rises to the level of getting the Supreme Court involved, then surely there should be some call for sanctions for the judge, right? Surely he would need to be punished for his horribly biased actions in South Carolina's largest and perhaps most expensive case ever. But oh no, no, no, no. Dick and Jim don't want the judge punished. They just want him removed so they can get

Starting point is 00:17:56 elic out of prison. Surely the Supreme Court is smart enough to see through all of this, and PS, they never even filed a motion with Judge Newman first asking him to remove himself, which is what procedure would call for. Are they just dumb or is this yet another tactic to delay the November 27 trial to slow down the system and bog them down with nonsense? And I guess the better question is, who's gonna stop them? Okay, one last thing before we get started

Starting point is 00:18:22 on today's episode, Corey Fleming. The state newspaper reported that his 13-year 10-month sentence is going to look more like nine years total. Jinsa Zara, it will end up being even less than that because of the credits he's yet to earn. The federal Bureau of Prison still shows no expected release date for Russell of Feed, and that could be because of his pending appeal. Cory, by the way, is still listed as being under interim suspension with the Bar Association. We're going to continue to keep an eye on his status because when it comes to good old boy attorneys in South Carolina, you just never know what will happen. Since he voluntarily gave up his license and was not technically disbarred, we do have

Starting point is 00:19:02 to wonder if he's holding out hope that he'll be reinstated when he's finally released. I know, it sounds crazy, but think about the context here. Crazy is relative. We'll be right back. The justice system can be intimidating, but it doesn't have to be. Join us to hold public agencies accountable because we all want to drink from the same cup of justice. And it starts with learning about our legal system. With tales from the newsroom and the courtroom, Liz Farrell, Eric Blan and I invite you to gain knowledge

Starting point is 00:19:38 insight in tools to hold public agencies and officials accountable. If you liked our cup of justice bonus episodes, you will love cup of justice shows on the new feed. Together, our hosts create the perfect trifecta of legal experience, journalistic integrity, and a fire lit to expose the truth wherever it leads. Search for cup of justice wherever you get your podcast or visit cupofjusticepod.com Okay, so the biggest news this past week was that October 29th was the deadline for Alex victims to make a claim

Starting point is 00:20:15 with the court to receive money from his assets. In addition to the boat crash victims, specifically the Beach family, Morgan Dowdy and Miley Altman, the Plyler sisters and Gloria Satterfield's two sons, there are three other victims making claims. They are Alex Older Brother Randy Murdock, his former law firm PMPD, and his former law partner Johnny Parker. So first a bit about how this works, There's about 2.4 million dollars in assets that the receivers have found. After the receivers take their fees, that works out to about 1.8 million

Starting point is 00:20:53 dollars. Then there will be a fee of $50,000 to $75,000 that's expected from the special referee, Walter Tullison, who was appointed by the court to devise a fair system of compensating the list of claimants. Now, anyone who felt they were owed money from Eleg Murdoch could have filed a claim. It didn't just have to be people he stole from, just simply people he didn't pay back. That's what makes this whole thing interesting, seeing who chose to file a claim and who didn't. Let's start with who chose to. Obviously, we know that Mark

Starting point is 00:21:25 Tinsley's clients would be on the list because without them there would be no assets to divide. In fall of 2021, Mark put a stop to what he saw as Ellic in his family and friends, working quickly to liquidate his assets and hide them. Mark and his clients are the reason the assets were frozen and a receivership was put in place. We knew the Satterfield boys would be on that list because of the confession of judgment they got from Ellic. That confession secured them a spot in line in May 2022. Also, we should mention, the Satterfield family filed a transcript of judgment in court about a year and a half ago, so Ellic's confession of judgment to $4.3 million has been accruing

Starting point is 00:22:05 interest ever since then. Next, we expected that the Plylers would be making a claim because Alex has yet to be held accountable for what he did to them. Okay, so notice anything so far. Every victim who filed a claim is someone who was already known to the public. It appears that no other victims have come forward. Obviously, we know they're out there. So, what's happening there? We think a few things. First, we have to understand the categories here. There are six groups of victims in our minds. The first two groups are connected. There are the ones who still don't know they were stolen from because they haven't been told or it hasn't

Starting point is 00:22:41 occurred to them to ask questions. And there are the ones who might suspect they were stolen from, but haven't done anything about it. These two groups are connected culturally, meaning there's no telling how thorough PMPD was in going through Alex Files, but we can tell you that people are still scared to speak out against the Murdox and the firm. It's not worth it to them to invite trouble by pulling at any threads in their past dealings with Ellic. They might be happy with the money they did get from him, so lie look a gift worse than mouth, right? Their lives are easier when they stay out of the drama. The third group is the group who were allorted by PMPED about the thefts and quote,

Starting point is 00:23:19 were made whole by PMPED. We'll return that idea of being made whole by them in a second. Basically, this group might have been reimbursed for the theft directly by PMPED. We'll return that idea of being made hole by them in a second. Basically, this group might have been reimbursed for the theft directly by PMPED, and they might or might not have been represented by attorneys. The fourth group are victims who were represented by outside attorneys who have already settled their cases against PMPED, and perhaps as part of that settlement agreement, they agreed they would seek no additional compensation. The fifth are the victims we already mentioned, and the sixth group are, well, they're shameless. Let's start with all Randy Murdoch. Now, you'll remember that right before the receivership was put in place, like right when it was known that this was going to happen.

Starting point is 00:24:00 Randy, along with Alex Former-Law partner, Johnny Parker, filed claims against Alex saying that he owed them a whole bunch of money. Then, on the same day as the hearing regarding the receivership, Alex filed two confessions of judgment, telling the court, ''Yepers, I do owe them that money.'' It was one of the many attempts by team Murdoch to keep his money circulating within the Murdoch economy. Okay, so on October 28th, 2021, six days after the plaintiffs in cases against ELEC made a motion to the court to freeze ELEC's assets and point a receivership, Randy filed a claim with the court saying ELEC owed him $90,000 that he had loaned ELEC $90,000, meaning he filed this when he knew the court was being asked to take action to stop the wasting of ELEC's assets. Here's David with what Grandy said.

Starting point is 00:24:52 In the days prior to September 2, 2021, defendant represented to Randolph-Mardark IV, that he needed a loan to cover an overdrawn bank account, and that defendant had already written other checks including checks to workers, which will make the account more overdrawn. Defendant did not disclose that he was in a poor financial condition. There are not enough keyboards in this world for me to slam my head against. Defendant did not disclose he was in poor financial condition. Okay. A. Who needs an emergency loan of $75,000 to cover an overdrawn bank account and isn't

Starting point is 00:25:33 in poor financial condition? B. This is Palmetto State Bank we're talking about. Alex account was perpetually overdrawn. He wasn't bouncing checks there. C. Didn't Randy wonder where all of Alex's money was going? Wasn't it concerning to him that his brother didn't have money he could transfer over to cover these alleged checks? If Martinsley knew that it made no sense for Alex to be claiming to be broke, then surely

Starting point is 00:26:00 his own brother and law partner would have had that same thought, no? And D. Uh oh. his own brother and law partner would have had that same thought, no? N.D. Uh-oh. Uh-oh because Randy says in the days prior to September 2nd he was told about Alex need for money. Hmm, why is he saying this date so specifically? Because the timeline matters here. It's one thing to say that hindsight is 2020, that we know much more now than we did

Starting point is 00:26:23 then. But the truth is, those in Alex Inner Circle knew a lot, especially over that summer, and in our opinion, in an effort to protect themselves, they continued to aid him, and now here they are, looking to be reimbursed for that. So, back then, Randy said that quote, prior to September 2nd, he learned of Alex's need for immediate cash. But here's the thing, Randy's check, according to the exhibits Randy so helpfully provided in his filing last week, wasn't written until September 3rd,

Starting point is 00:26:53 and it wasn't deposited into Alex's account until September 3rd. What was happening on September 2nd? Why would Randy say prior to September 2nd? Because September 2nd is the day that PMPED says they quote first discovered Alex Thess. And according to the complaint they filed in college and county court on October 6th, 2021, the morning of September 3rd is when they asked to Alec for his immediate resignation. So the day Randy was loaning his brother $75,000 with the purported agreement that he'd pay him back within 30 days.

Starting point is 00:27:27 A day when law enforcement had been called, an elic-merdox should have been led out of PMPED and handcuffs, by the way. PMPED already had enough information to know that elic was not someone to be trusted. Maybe Randy didn't know that, right? Let's revisit the testimony of PMP DCFO Genie Seconder on that one. initially, initially we just we showed all the remaining partners what we had found in that that he had been doing. The consensus was let's get Randy in here and let show him. So he was up blind-fotted. Randy came in, we presented him the evidence and he immediately hung his hand and said he stole it we've got to

Starting point is 00:28:26 do something about this. Anybody and I, you're gonna make contact with the defendant. So, Deginnie Henderson in Randy Murdock went to the front, L.A.C. about it. And what was important to you after that conversation? The report was that L.A.C. had admitted that he sold the money and that we were forcing him to resign. So again, according to PMPED, Ellic was asked to resign the morning of September 3rd, 2021, which would mean that this conversation between him and Danny Henderson and Randy would have had to occur that morning.

Starting point is 00:29:05 Had Randy already written and deposited the check before knowing his brother was a thief? Maybe. Sure seems like he could have made a call to Charlie or Russell of the feat and put a stop to the payment on that one. No one fought a man for loaning money to his family, by the way. No matter the circumstances or family members' abilities to pay back that loan, that is a personal choice. It is often made by the heart and not the head. But that personal choice should not be something that ends up taking away money from people who had no choice, not a professional one, not a personal one,

Starting point is 00:29:43 and having money taken from them. Randy Murdock was not duped into this deal. Now, weeks later, Randy said he wrote another check on Alex behalf. This one was for $15,000, he said. Here is what Randy told the court it was for. Later, Randolph Murdock IV transported defendant to a rehabilitation facility for treatment for drug addiction. In order to get defendant's treatment, defendant requested that Randolph-Murdoch IV pay

Starting point is 00:30:15 for the initial treatment in the amount of $15,000. And Randolph-Murdoch IV wrote a check to the facility so that defendant could get his treatment, and Randolph Murdock IV has not been reimbursed by the defendant for this money. Now, according to Randy's filing last week, that check was written September 14, 2021, a full 11 days after Randy gave Elic $75,000. Where did that money go? And a fold and days after Elix roadside shooting

Starting point is 00:30:50 buffoonery and a fold eight days after Elix told the public he had entered rehab, which was purported to be in Atlanta. The check for 15,000 was actually a check for 13,000 and it was made out to sunrise detox or landau. In the memo of this check, Randy made sure to write Elic loan for treatment. Two days after this check was written, Elic was back in Hampton County, in standing in front of the Magistrate judge on charges related to his roadside buffoonery. That's quite the journey, right?

Starting point is 00:31:27 We're not going to get into it on this episode, but this certainly raises questions about where Elik was on the day his attorneys called Sled, purportedly, from a detox center in Atlanta to arrange for him to confess to the roadside buffoonery. I mean, a cynical person might say, hmm, this drug addiction thing seems suspicious. Was it just a cover for him to leave the state and avoid sled? Because he knew that they were on to him with the murders, that they had doubts about his roadside shooting story, and that his partners had reported him for stealing. What's he really in rehab or detox starting September 6, 2021? Well, according to John Marvin Murdoch's testimony, that's exactly where he was.

Starting point is 00:32:18 Did you transport Alec drive it, Alec from hospital in Savannah to a detox facility in Atlanta, that we can or... Well, I believe it would have been on that Monday. I was not driving. Randy and I were talking. Randy was driving and I was in the back. Yes, sir. We did take him to a detox facility.

Starting point is 00:32:44 And where was the facility located? Just outside of Atlanta. Okay. And what was he need to describe for the jury? All its condition like physical condition in the car. Yes, sir. So Yes or so. When I met Randy over in Savannah, he had Alec and I got into Coral Randy's truck with him. I'd never seen anything like it. I've seen television shows of talking about the leg twitching and squirminess if you will. And that's the first thing I'm gonna, I mean, you could just tell you was sweat and he was thrashing about, you know, Jemet. Did he turn around?

Starting point is 00:33:33 I don't know how much detail you want me to go into. What did you turn around and see to the car? And what was he doing here? Yeah, so maybe halfway there, at one point, he'd taken a seat belt off and he had his head down where Yuffani would be in the seat and is trying to stretch his legs and just kind of steady just like thrashing him and kicking him. It's just again I've seen TV but I've never seen something like this in real life and was able to control himself. No sir, I said about detail.

Starting point is 00:34:08 So he messed himself. He had diarrhea. It just couldn't control it. And then, and I say diarrhea, I'm not talking about that restroom but talking about in the car and his pants. Now regarding that $2,000 discrepancy, Randy accounted for that mistake on November 4th, 2021 with a court. Of course, Eric had confessed judgment to the incorrect amount, but what can we expect from these guys? Honestly, so in total, he loaned Eric $88,000 in the days after it was known that ELEC had stolen from

Starting point is 00:34:50 the firm that their family built. Around $43,500 of that debt was satisfied through the sale of ELEC's Kubota tractor and a rotary cutter, purportedly sold to him by buster. His filing includes two handwritten receipts dated October 5th, 2021. Now Randy says that ELEC owes him $52,809. That's the $44,500 balance plus $8,309 in interest. Interest. Which Randy accounted for in two parts to make sure he got the benefit of rising interest

Starting point is 00:35:32 rates. Now, another thing that was included in Randy's filing last week was a handful of exhibits outlining timber sales from a piece of property owned by Randolph Murdoch's estate, Randy, John Marvin, and Alec. Randolph's estate owns 50% of the property. In Randolph, John Marvin and Alec each own one-six. So one-sixth of the timber sales made since Alec's been in jail have gone to the receivership. The receivership, by the way, contested Alex's 2021 confession of judgment and immediately

Starting point is 00:36:06 sought to invalidate it. That decision is still pending. In the meantime, for Alex's family to sell timber on this property, they co-owned. Randy, as Alex creditor, had to renounce his interests in Alex's share. That money went into the receivership account. It is not clear why Randy is including this information in his filing. Is it to show that he was reasonable in the past? That he could have fought to take this money then, but didn't. Or is it to remind the receivers

Starting point is 00:36:36 that one way to compensate him would be to give him Alex's share of the property. No matter what the reason, the idea of Randy, who gave Elic money when he had reason to know, Elic was a low-down scheming, liar liar, trying to get back that money, is not just Goesh, it is utterly shameless. It is utterly shameless. Randy is hard to figure out. He didn't attend most of Alex Trial. He didn't

Starting point is 00:37:07 testify at all despite being on the witness list. On December 31, 2021, he, like the other PMPD partners, created a new business entity to practice law. Ten days later, he created seven new limited liability corporations. 80 Waters Avenue, LLC. 80 Waters Avenue is the address of the River House where Paul and his friends were headed to on the night of the boat crash, by the way. Cedar Branch Timber, LLC. Four Timber, LLC. Murdoch Timber, LLC, River Pines Timber, LLC, St. Mark Timber, LLC, in Waters Avenue, Common, LLC. In a New York time story that ran three days after Alec was sentenced, Randy said that he really wasn't close to Alec, that they didn't spend much time together alone. Randy Murdoch said he had no doubt that his brother was a serial liar, and a thief.

Starting point is 00:38:07 He said he also believed that Alex had not told the whole truth about what he knew about the killings, but as directly whether he thought his brother carried out the murders, he said he still did not know. As a lawyer, he said he respects the Jerry's verdict, but he finds it impossible to picture Alex. A man he is known for decades as a protective husband and father, pulling the trigger and inflicting the carnage that prosecutors described as a crime of cold calculation. He knows more than what he's saying, Randy said.

Starting point is 00:38:38 He's not telling the truth, in my opinion, about everything there. And this is what we call the re-brandy. opinion about everything there. here is Jeanne's seconder from the trial explaining what Elyk did in 2017. So as we said, we had the clerical error. And a few days later, Elyk came to our staff. It's not quite clear which staff, because our records don't show that. But a boy did check. He acted as if he lost this original check and had another check written. So replacement track was then written to L.I.K. again,

Starting point is 00:39:34 which was a mistake again. Did that second check get cashed? The second check got cashed pretty much immediately within a week or two. And then about a year later, the first check got cashed as well. And that's when a call and a system that he had cashed by the checks and looking back and realized that the mistake had been made, that the money had hit. Their names are right beside each other in the vendor list, and that they made a clerical mistake.

Starting point is 00:40:02 And that he was paid money that he was not owed. All right. Ultimately, did he get that money twice that he was not supposed to oversee? He did. And ultimately, was it because he claimed that he had lost the first check? Correct. Ultimately, did he cash both the checks?

Starting point is 00:40:18 He did. And cash the original one a year later. Correct. All right. Was he confronted about this back at that time when it was detected? I guess in 2017, is that right? He was. And he wasn't confronted with that time?

Starting point is 00:40:32 He was. Not. I don't remember that. He was confronted by me. I know that Danny Henderson spoke with him about it. And L.A. just claimed that he made him a strike and thought that he had paid the money. That he had loaned the money that year. And year, and Danny just kind of let it go and swoop it

Starting point is 00:40:50 under the rug. Meanwhile, Randy was definitely on Alex rotation in those jailhouse phone calls, but we only received a few of those phone calls between Randy and Ellie back from our FOIA. We were told that the jail lacked the ability to redact just pieces of the conversation and therefore if personal information was exchanged during the call, they just left out the whole call. So we're not sure if that's what was going on. Randy Wiesch had mentioned is also the personal representative of Paul's estate. On August 30th 2021, he sent Callton County probate judge a letter on PMPED letterhead asking the court to open an estate in Paul's name. The next day, Ellicor announced

Starting point is 00:41:33 his right to administer Paul's estate. Then on September 2, 2021, the day PMPED says it first learned of Alex Tha, and the day before Randy wrote Elika Chek for $75,000, the court appointed Randy as PR. On October 6, 2021, the same day PMPED filed a complaint against Elik, and the day after Randy was purchasing a Kubota and rotary cutter from Elik, Randy resigned as Paul's PR, and instead appointed John Marvin. But that resignation was never signed off on by a judge. So, in March 2022, Randy was sent a notice of delinquency from the probate court for failing to file an inventory and appraism in

Starting point is 00:42:17 a paul's estate and failing to file proof of delivery and notice to errors. That issue remains unresolved according to the Prove Court website. Okay, so enough about Randy, for now. That was a good overview though of a person who loaned money to a liar and who now expects that money back to the detriment of the liar's actual victims. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Let's talk about Johnny Parker. Johnny is a bit of a wild ride because in 2021, the year of the murders, he gave Elyk three jumbo loans.

Starting point is 00:42:56 He also had given Russell a feat the loan to pay off the money he had stolen from Han Appliar's conservatorship account. Russell was still paying on that loan at the time of his trial. So Johnny says, Eleg owes him $477,000. He first loaned Eleg $150,000 in March of 2021. Shortly after, Eleg would have received his annual bonus from PMPED. Right around when Eleg was bugging his buddy Chris Wilson about getting half of the nearly $1.6 million fee they'd earned in a case together. Then two months later Johnny loaned Eleg $77,000, which is an oddly specific amount. That check didn't specify that it was alone. Finally, after the murders in July 2021, when Eleg was trying to piece together the $792,000

Starting point is 00:43:48 in Chris Wilson money he had stolen from PMPED, Johnny, a partner at the law firm, loaned him another $250,000. Johnny's filings are not specific, so it's unclear what these loans were for or what Johnny thought they were for. There are also no written agreements that we can see in which Ellic had agreed to an interest raid or a repayment plan with Johnny. So Johnny, you might remember in January of this past year it was announced that the Beach family had reached a settlement agreement with Buster Murdoch. Not only releasing him from their lawsuit against him, but paying him a half million dollars from the money the family got from Maggie's estate. It was a generous deal that removed a big stressor from Buster's life while also leaving

Starting point is 00:44:36 him money to build a life. Johnny objected to that deal. Why? Well, because he wanted some of that money for himself. His objection was filed as a lien and is oddly listed under Alex's name and the public index. In response to Johnny's objection, the court was given an email that showed that Johnny had filed Alex's confession of judgment after being told by Jim Griffin that the judge had frozen Alex's assets and was appointing a receivership.

Starting point is 00:45:05 Needless to say, the judge approved the settlement in Johnny Gutt's bilge. And here he is again, like a shameless, avaricious zombie, repeatedly rising from the dead in search of dollar bills to Munchon. Okay, lastly, we have PMPED seeking money from Alex Asats. Big surprise. Just kidding. No surprise at all there. What fools. According to their filing, Alex thefts date back to at least 2005.

Starting point is 00:45:35 That means that for the majority of Alex legal career, he was stealing with a level of comfort where it seems like he knew he wouldn't get caught. Why was that? Was his father protecting him? Or did this protect him? Here's Genie 2nd Jira again. Did everybody move to the dollar? That's correct. I have to point out that it was... These attorneys worked as a brotherhood and were very family and they trusted him

Starting point is 00:46:04 and accepted the test explanation. What was that word you just used? You said it was a brotherhood? Yes. And so when the attorneys are dealing with one another, when the attorneys are dealing with you, how are y'all dealing with one another? What's the basis of that? Trust. Trust. Trust. And so over the years, well, now,

Starting point is 00:46:30 word out can tell you to do a transaction or anything like that. What will you rely on? It is word. Trust. Trusting someone is a choice that a person makes based on a multitude of factors including that other person's behavior. By all accounts, Alex behavior at PMPEDU was described as erotic and sloppy. In 2017, we know he did some shady stuff with the payment he diverted from Randy to himself. We know that his explanation was reportedly accepted by the brotherhood, as fact, but we also find it hard to believe that in a firm as small as PMPED,

Starting point is 00:47:12 that it wasn't a widely known bang that Eleg didn't pitch in money to loan the firm each year. We also find it convenient that no one knows who recut those checks for Eleg, or how this was able to go undetected for so long. Now, we've spoken with an un-taliable number of lawyers over the years about this case. Not one of them has ever said to us that they can understand how Alec was able to get away with his crimes at the firm for so

Starting point is 00:47:42 long. Not one. In fact, Mark Tinsley told the court that a five-year-old could see what Eleg was up to once you opened the books. So where was that accountability? We also know that this firm is liable for Alex Actions. They had a responsibility to all clients of the firm. We don't know whether someone was helping Eleg behind the scenes, but we do know that PMPED failed. We know that the full truth of what Eleg was doing there has not yet been revealed, and we believe that PMPED partners should be shouldering the full brunt of Eleg's thefts. Eleg stole that money because ultimately they let him by being asleep at the wheel

Starting point is 00:48:25 for at least 17 years. That means there's something systemically and culturally wrong with PMPED. Now, as for what they're asking for, they presented a court with a two-page, rudimentary looking spreadsheet with the names of the alleged victims were acted. All told, they say that Alex thefts cost them $14 million. They say that their insurance covered $5.35 million of that loss and that they were reimbursed almost $1.5 million. That's the Chris Wilson money and the Russell of Feed Money. They are requesting nearly $3.9 million from Elex 1.8 million in assets. And even though they know that they're set to receive nearly $1.6 million in restitution, thank you Judge Gurgle, they note for the referee that this restitution from Corey in Russell

Starting point is 00:49:18 does not have any bearing on what Elex owes them. It does not offset it. They include in their request for payment $70,000 in free reimbursement for the Chevy Suburban that fled seized from ELEC on June 7th, 2021, along with more than $2 million in quote, professional fees. We believe that to be money maybe for their investigation, which by the, they were obligated to conduct. They note that Ellic made more than $17,000 in personal charges on his company credit card. All told, they say he stole more than $1.4 million from the firm itself, and that they've paid almost $9 million to $25 of Ellic's clients. Now, there's more analysis we intend to do of this redacted list, but here are a few things to know. One is that it doesn't seem like the special

Starting point is 00:50:12 referee will be doing any investigation into the claims being made against Alex assets. The claimants will swear to their claims under oath, and that will be seen as enough for the court. The client names are all redacted, though, so it's not clear whether the special referee will even get to see the names to verify that they did in fact receive reimbursement. Regardless, the second thing to know is this, and this is the most important thing we can say right now. If you or someone you know was represented by EllLEC at any point in time, it is possibly worth it for you to talk to a lawyer who is not connected to ELEC's former firm. If ELEC

Starting point is 00:50:54 stole money from you or overcharged you for expenses or perhaps charged you for services you actually didn't receive or charged you for expenses that weren't actually yours. You are potentially entitled to reimbursement, and you're not just potentially entitled to be a amount of the money he stole, whether directly or through fraudulent expenses, but you might also be entitled to the interest that money would have earned had he not stolen the money. There are plenty of trustworthy lawyers out there who would be willing to look over your paperwork from Ellic to make sure that you aren't a victim. PM PADD has already acknowledged

Starting point is 00:51:32 that at least 25 people were victims. It's not clear whether the money they received as a reimbursement was the actual amount of what was stolen back in the day or if that amount included interest, but we'll say this, Alex' own brother, his flesh and blood, is currently using the court to not just get back money that he says Elik owes him, but is making sure to get back interest on that money. That is how much they protect themselves over others. If this were them, if any PMPD attorneys family member were represented by ELEC and had money stolen from them, there's no doubt in our minds that they would fight to make sure that they were actually quote made whole and not just given money that was stolen from them a decade earlier. No matter how

Starting point is 00:52:20 charming or seemingly kind, ELEC Murdoch or the Murdoch family has been to you, you might have been taken advantage of because ultimately, Elik saw his existence in this world as more worthy than yours. Okay, and finally, let's talk about the guy who Ellic owes a lot of money to. And yet, he isn't on that list of victims. Chris Wilson. To be fair, we appreciate the fact that Chris Wilson didn't get in the victim's line like the other greedy ghouls in this mess.

Starting point is 00:53:02 Remember, Ellic owed Chris a whopping $192,000, which he was so concerned about in August 2021 that he made Elik write a promissory note to ensure that he knew that he owed him that money. While the investigation into Elik's accomplices still isn't over, as far as we know. It feels like Chris Wilson, in a lot of ways, is the one who got away, or perhaps one of many who got away. Chris Wilson, the one who hired a super fancy lawyer, Bakari Sellers, and managed to duck out of a lot of the Murdock mess that he was in the middle of for so long. And after a slightly embarrassing couple days on the stand where he admitted to being shit

Starting point is 00:53:51 up by Elik Murdock, Chris Wilson appears to be back to business as usual. When he talk about the players involved, who should have seen the signs with Elik Murdock? Those big red flags that were there before June June 2021, that Alec was up to something highly illegal. Chris Wilson is at the top of that list. We found out a lot about Chris Wilson's role in Alec's financial schemes during Alec's murder trial in March. And I feel like we never really gave enough time and energy to focus on what

Starting point is 00:54:27 Chris Wilson actually did and whether or not it was unethical for him as a lawyer or plain illegal. Chris Wilson is still practicing law, but should he be? And is what he did? Much different from what Corey and Russell did. We rewatched Chris's trial testimony again to try to figure out what exactly Chris Wilson knew and when he knew it because accountability matters. Was he an accomplice or was he truly duped by the super duper himself? For a reminder, Chris and Elik had known each other since law school. They were besties, who not only did cases together a lot, but they hung out outside of work. You might also remember Chris as the third guy on that infamous private plane that Pamela

Starting point is 00:55:17 pinched me unknowingly paid for to the college world series in 2012. Remember, it was Chris, Elyk and Corey on that plane, and now Chris is the only one of them who is still practicing law, and also the only one who is not in prison. Funny how that works. So, Elyk and Chris work together on a big case that ended with a multi-million dollar settlement at the beginning of 2021.

Starting point is 00:55:45 They went splitsies on the fees. In their firms, we're supposed to get about $792,000 each for it, according to the fee agreement. So, Chris and Alec had done many cases before. And every other time, Chris's office would make out that would make the check out to PMPD, like the fee agreement said to do. But it was this time when they were cutting the checks in March 2021 when Ellic went rogue and asked Chris to make the check out to him. Not his law firm and to not worry about it because PMPD was totally cool with it. Here is Chris Wilson at the trial explaining how exactly Ellic Murdoch managed to convince him to do this.

Starting point is 00:56:32 When it came time to disperse the checks and I was calling him and the other lawyer to let him know that I'd have the checks ready, I guess somewhere around March 10th. Ellic told me that he was going to put the money into an annuity, that he was going to put his fees and an annuity, he called it a structure, and as he explained he was going to put his money into an annuity, and that the checks needed to be made playable directly to him instead of to his firm so that he could do that. Okay, and did he explain to you why he was gonna do that? He had just indicated that he was putting money away indicated he was concerned about the boat case

Starting point is 00:57:12 and That he was gonna put some money in the new idiot or into a structure You say he was concerned about the boat case what exactly did he what was he concerned about what did he tell you he was concerned about He was concerned about his exposure in the boat case In a simple lawsuit. Yes, sir You were aware that the defendant had been sued civilly in the boat accident case I yeah, I didn't know if he had been sued himself, but I knew there was a lawsuit going on involved And I believe I did know that he was himself sued at that time. Yes, sir So this was different than how you normally did things correct very much I believe I did know that he was himself suited that time, yes sir.

Starting point is 00:57:45 So this was different than how you normally did things, correct? Very much. Did he have any further explanation to you as to why this would be okay? Why this was all right to do? He told me that he had already cleared it with the partners in his firm. I mean, he was a partner himself with the authority to do things for the firm, but he told me he had already cleared it with his partners in the firm and that he was going to, that they were going to put the monies on the books and that they would be accounted for at the end of the year whenever they did their year

Starting point is 00:58:14 ends that a lot, that he would already be accounted for as having been paid these monies already. Looking back at this exhibit that's now up on the screen. On March 10th, 10 to 4.50, he says, I need to get the check today. Is that correct? Yes, sir. And did he tell you anymore about why he needed to get the check today? I spoke to him on the phone that day and he just asked me if the checks were going to be ready that day.

Starting point is 00:58:48 As I recall, I was on the road. I wasn't sure I was going to make it back to the officer. My bookkeeper was getting the checks ready and I spoke to him on the phone and told him that if I got back in time to sign the checks, I'd have him ready that day. He told me he'd like to get them that day, yes sir. He told you that he had already cleared this with the partners, they were okay with him getting this money right now instead of having to wait to the end of the year. He told me that the partners were aware that the monies were being paid to him, that he was going to put them into annuities and that they would be accounted for, and I own the books of the firm,

Starting point is 00:59:25 as I already haven't been credited as paid towards him. Did you believe the defendant, have any told me anything? Yes, sir. I didn't have any reason not to. Your best friend? Yes, sir. Did you trust him?

Starting point is 00:59:43 I did. Didn't set up any red flags to you at this point. Yes sir. Not knowing him for 30 plus years and did have any reason not trust him. Okay remember that. No red flags. But yet Chris is a lawyer. He knows how the real 4G accounts work. He knows that if Elik were doing a legitimate structured fee, he would A have to have written that into the fee agreement and B. The fee wouldn't have had to have been paid by the defendant directly to the account that had been set up. Also, I don't believe for a second that in March 2021, Chris Wilson wasn't aware that his own bestie was being sued for the boat crash.

Starting point is 01:00:32 People seem to forget this, but the boat crash was a big deal before the murders. Local media covered the lawsuit develops extensively. The case was well known, especially in the low country and especially among lawyers. Chris, saying he was unaware of his bestie being sued in a high-profile, wrongful death lawsuit, is like him claiming on the stand he was unaware that the University of South Carolina had a football team. But okay Chris, let's go with that. Chris claimed that Ellic indicated that he wanted to do it differently this time with an annuity because he was concerned with the exposure in the boot crash case. The wording Chris Wilson used to justify why he thought this completely abnormal way to split these

Starting point is 01:01:20 was completely fine. This really bugs me. As a lawyer, Chris Wilson should have been aware of exactly what he meant by that. He meant, my son was driving my boat, the killed Mallory Beach, and her family is suing me for what happened to their daughter, and I wanna be dishonest about my earnings so I can get away with paying them as little as possible.

Starting point is 01:01:44 How did that immediately not make Chris' stomach turn? How did Chris not hear that and immediately think, something isn't right here, let's hold off on this. Imagine if Chris did just the bare minimum to make sure his friend was telling the truth. Imagine if he called a PMPED partner then and asked if they were really okay with the check being made to Ellic and not them. Imagine if PMPED actually did something about it and stopped Ellic's path of destruction right then and right there.

Starting point is 01:02:20 But no. Ellic cashed those checks for $792,000 in April 2021, and the money was gone. Just like that. Then in May, PMPD started getting reimbursement checks for that case that Elik and Chris settled, and they were like, huh, wait a minute, where's our big check? And what's interesting is that when PMPD got word that Elic was trying to hide assets for the boat crash case, he claims Ronnie Crosby claims his reaction was much different from Chris' reaction. Here is Ronnie explaining in court what went down in May 2021 at PMPD.

Starting point is 01:03:02 at PMPED. It was sometimes in close relation to Eric asking me about structure and attorney's fees. I walked in Lee Coaks office, Lee and Jeannie were having a conversation about that issue and her efforts to get all the paperwork on the faireris matter and she was frustrated she thought she was getting to run around both of them Chris Wilson and Ella and then she mentioned something to me about that he had suggested to her that he was trying to hide fees from the voting case. You know what was your reaction to that when you heard that? Do you want me to say what I said? You can say the sanitized version or you can say the rule or the other way.

Starting point is 01:03:57 I said oh fuck no we're not. And why was that your reaction? Well, because to do that under any circumstance was illegal unethical and he would be putting us at risk and we absolutely were not going to participate in anything that was illegal, unyielding or some check to us to liability or you know, created issues with the South Carolina board. So Ronnie Crosby said it was illegal, in unethical, and he was angry at just the thought of Ellic doing such a thing. Yet, Chris Wilson was like, cool bro, whatever you say. And when P&P-D employees started calling Chris Wilson's office, he didn't stop to think,

Starting point is 01:04:52 huh, that's super weird. How like one of the fees to be paid to him in this case? Maybe I should make sure that it's actually an anonymity, and maybe I should tell P&P-D exactly what happened to that money that they are looking for instead of giving them the runaround. But no. And then the murders happened in June, and everything goes sideways. PMPD lays off on their quest to find the money, and they won't dare ask Elic any questions. After his wife and son were just murdered, just as Elic planned, by the way.

Starting point is 01:05:28 But by July, Genie 2, the PMPD's CFO started poking around again. This is 3-quarters of a million dollars, mind you, which isn't chump change even for PMPD. That sort of money missing isn't something that can just be forgotten about. And then, that is when it gets really wild. So this should have been another giant red flag for Chris. Actually more than a red flag, a flashing red light that says stop and think about this. Something is off here. So when Eleg noticed that PMPD was snooping around again, he called Chris up and was like, remember that money I said I was putting into an annuity?

Starting point is 01:06:10 Well, oops, I didn't do that. And now, I'm going to wire you $600,000 that you should put in your trust account. And we can act like it was there all along. And by the way, I need you to put $192,000 of your own money into your trust account because 600K is all I can find. Gotta go, bye! Talk soon, ex-I-Whexel. And Chris, again, was like... cool bro. No questions asked. Here is Chris explaining why he decided to cover the $192,000 instead of telling Ellic to buzz off and report him to authorities.

Starting point is 01:06:51 So what did you do in response to what your friend told you, or told you about the reason why he was short $192,000. At that point, I had an indication that I was supposed to have $792,000 in my trust account that was supposed to have been paid to his firm. I'm responsible for that trust account. I put $192,000 of my own money in that trust account to cover the shortfall. You hear that? He knew the money was supposed to go to Alex's firm.

Starting point is 01:07:22 And he paid the $192,000 because likely he knew he had to cover his own behind. Isn't that like a cover-up? And then the wires, totaling $600,000, came in a something weird again. The wires came from Palmetto State Bank in Bank of America. In fact, $350,000 was wired by Russell to Chris Wilson. That money is a big reason why Russell is in prison right now. The official reason for that loan was listed as beach house renovations. Yet Russell, TrudegoodleboyCode, didn't ask any simple questions. Like, does Chris Wilson's law firm do beach renovations? In the other portion of that $600,000, why are do Chris Wilson came from PMPD partner,

Starting point is 01:08:24 Johnny Parker? You know, the guy who was also claiming to be a victim of Eric Murdock right now, because apparently no one was telling him anything at all at PMPD that summer. And it hadn't clicked to him that something was up with Eric Murdock and why did he need all these boat loads of cash from his law partner? I don't have any idea what is what it is like to be the person that my co-workers go to for loans worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. But I feel like any person with just a slice of a brain would ask some basic follow-up questions about these

Starting point is 01:09:05 loans. Like, what is going on here? Where is this money going, Ellic? This is a lot of money, and it makes me angry how likely these men apparently viewed hundreds of thousands of dollars. A lot of people commit crimes because they don't have loan sharks or bank presidents to bail them out. Think about the amount of liquor stores someone would have to rob to take that kind of money. These men are privileged even in their thievery.

Starting point is 01:09:36 And because of that privilege, apparently, they fail to ask very basic questions. And ignore all of the flashing red lights, telling them if they keep going and they keep allowing this man to bulldoze through, danger would be ahead. In August 2021, Chris Wilson finally did ask a few questions about that fee situation. Well, not really. He asked about his own money and when he was getting it back. And he made Alex sign up promissory note. Here is him talking about it in trial. It is a very rudimentary, hand-written, scratched out promissory note that I ask Alex to sign for me, which he did August 17th of 2021. I acknowledge that I had loaned him $192,000

Starting point is 01:10:25 that he would repay within 60 days. I think is what it says. And tell me how the circumstances of how you came to get this essentially on full with piece of paper. This is a copy of what it is, yes sir. All right, tell me about it please. That was more about, I mean, I wanted to get repaying my money as quickly as possible,

Starting point is 01:10:43 but that was more about I was concerned Just like everybody else everybody has firm and everybody has family that he was gonna do something to himself you know, he was gonna kill himself and I mean I knew enough to know that if he That I could make a claim against his estate if there wasn't something in writing And so that was more I went to him and said, I look, look, I even asked this, but I need to ask you to do this in case something happens to you.

Starting point is 01:11:14 And I phrased it like if you get hit by a car or something, but it was more about worried about what he might do. And I need to ask you to do this so that if there's a problem, I can deal with it. And he did, he didn't have a problem with it. It is fascinating to me that Chris Wilson had the foresight to think ahead to the possibility of Eric Murdock dying and him getting in line for his estate claims. Yet he did not think of the possibility that Ellic was involving him in some serious criminal activity, in all of the runaround instructions, in the science that something was really off with the fees in that case, from the beginning, and maybe he should get

Starting point is 01:11:57 to the bottom of that to make sure. Also, he thought his bestie was on the verge of suicide, and the only action he took was getting a promissory note to make sure he gets his money back. I guess Elik Murdoch had the friends that he deserved. And even then, Chris Wilson stayed quiet. He didn't ask any further questions. He just wanted his money back. He claims that he was duped by super duper, Ellic. At trial, Chris Wilson essentially claimed that he was blinded by the big lights of PMPD.

Starting point is 01:12:34 And since Ellic was successful, and PMPD was successful, everything must have been A-OK. Big firm, big reputation, I like how the big reputation. I thought he made a whole lot more money than I did. Everything I knew from the way his partner treated him, the type of cases I saw him working on with them, the type of cases I knew he worked on with me. He was one of the biggest dogs in that firm, one of the biggest producers they had, seemed to own a lot of things, do a lot of things, spend money, didn't ever seem to have problems.

Starting point is 01:13:14 And I knew I was associating him and his firm on very good cases throughout the years and I knew all the lawyers that were, seemed like they were doing very well and that he specifically was doing very well. And is that perception that you had of him, one of the reasons why you trusted him, that there was no shenanigans going on? I don't know that that's the main reason. I trusted him because I knew him and had dealt with him personally and professionally for a long time. But I had no idea if he was having money problems, I mean I would have never

Starting point is 01:13:47 suspected that his asking me to write checks to him had anything to do with money problems on his behalf. Nothing gave that appearance. So I mean that could have factored into the back. Mostly just I knew the guy and I trusted him. And he wasn't asking me to do anything that raised any flags with me. He told me he had cleared it with his firm and with his partners. I didn't have any reason to doubt that. Big reputation. What an insult to Taylor Swift that Chris Wilson used that phrase to describe Elik Murdoch. Sorry, Taylor. But honestly, look at that statement. Chris is saying he didn't ask questions because Elik was so powerful and the firm was so powerful.

Starting point is 01:14:28 And as long as they seem to be making big money, then why should he worry? And that is exactly why Ellic Murdoch got away with what he did for so long. Big reputation plus big name apparently equals no questions asked for the good old boys. Even when all of the signs point to illegal and unethical. Remember when Corey Fleming claimed that he was duped in the satireville case?

Starting point is 01:14:57 Remember that long letter he sent to the Georgia Bar claiming that he was victimized by Ellic, and he had that odd explanation as to why he mailed the person he was victimized by Ellic, and he had that odd explanation as to why he mailed the person he was suing. Ellic Murdoch, millions in that case, instead of, instead of to his own clients the satirfields. Remember how none of that made any sense? And remember how Corey ended up confessing when he realized Ellic didn't have much of a big reputation anymore. After the murder trial, and he realized that there was no way out.

Starting point is 01:15:30 I don't buy what Chris Wilson is saying. I don't buy what Randy Murdock is saying. I don't buy what Johnny Parker is saying. These attorneys could not possibly be duped to this degree, and if they were, they have no business practicing law, because they aren't capable of upholding the duties of an attorney. They cannot have it both ways. They can't pretend to be so ignorant of ethics and basic rational thought while at the

Starting point is 01:16:03 same time smart enough to be an officer of the court. So the question is this, do authorities care enough to go after the big guns in this case? Right now, the message R State is sending to attorneys is to look the other way when you see the signs that something is not right. Do nothing, say nothing. And if you wind up playing a major role in one of the state's biggest criminal cases in recent history, you can avoid accountability by just simply playing dumb. By just simply playing dumb, or by just simply being dumb. It's almost insulting to Corey and Russell what they did was wrong, but how many others also did wrong and they're still practicing law

Starting point is 01:16:56 without further accountability for Murdoch's other accomplices. Nothing will change. It is time for investigators and prosecutors to start being bold about the questions that need to be asked of the people who are still keeping secrets. Stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. [♪ Music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in me, Manny Manny, co-hosted by journalist Liz Farrell and produced by my husband, David Moses. True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production.

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