Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #35 - Anatomy of A Broken System: How A Prosecutor Who Gave Thrice Accused Rapist A Sweetheart Deal Keeps Failing Up

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

So while we have a bit of an Alex Murdaugh break this week, True Sunlight Co-hosts Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell wanted to talk about something really important that’s expected to happen the week ...after his evidentiary hearing. With South Carolina’s judicial elections on the horizon, today's episode revisits the Bowen Turner case and how his prosecutor’s 12-year journey to the judgeship continues to expose the darkest corners of legal power.  After reviewing hundreds of documents SC judicial selection, it seems like the Judicial Merit Selection Commission (JMSC) has unspoken rules. They can’t - and don’t - talk about the thing that is central to their existence – those few people in our state with the power to elect our judges wield unspoken power from the statehouse to the courtroom. That power has tipped the scales of justice for far too long in South Carolina. This system makes legislator-lawyers’ private practices potentially more profitable. And it gives a certain class of attorneys in the state much more power in the courtroom — especially when their clients can afford to surreptitiously fund a judge’s upheaval. Its truly unreal to watch some of the most powerful people in our state operate as if they don’t have a clue – nor do they care – about the concerns of South Carolina citizens or public safety.... Catch up on previous episodes dealing with the JMSC and Bowen Turner debacle at lunasharkmedia.com/truesunlight. We'll also Premiere the November 8, 2023 JMSC hearing for Soak Up The Sun members near noon and for the public on Luna Shark's YouTube channel near 2pm ET on Thursday January 25th. In January we’re offering your first month of Soak Up The Sun membership for 50% off. Join Luna Shark Premium today at Lunashark.Supercast.com. Premium Members also get access to searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on lunasharkmedia.com all in one place. CLICK HERE to learn more: https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE. And for those just wanting ad-free listening without all the other great content, we now offer ad-free listening on Apple Podcast through a subscription to Luna Shark Plus on the Apple Podcasts App. Or become a member on YouTube for exclusive videos and ad-free episodes. SUNscribe to our free email list to get that special offer for first time members, receive alerts on bonus episodes, calls to action, new shows and updates. CLICK HERE to learn more: https://bit.ly/3KBMJcP Visit our new events page Lunasharkmedia.com/events where you can learn about the upcoming in-person and virtual appearances from hosts! And a special thank you to our sponsors: Microdose.com, PELOTON, and VUORI. Use promo code "MANDY" for a special offer! For current & accurate updates: TrueSunlight.com facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/ Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod Twitter.com/mandymatney Twitter.com/elizfarrell youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 with the way we elect judges in our state. But after exposing so much legal corruption in this state in the last two years, I can say for certain that the Bowen Turner case and the dirty deal his prosecutors struck should go down in history as the case that could end up undoing them all. My name is Mandy Matney. This is True Sunlight, a podcast exposing crime and corruption previously known as the Murdoch Murders podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:27 True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production written with journalist Liz Farrell. ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] Hello and Happy Thursday in this never-ending first month of the year. This could mark the last podcast of our Terrorized by Dick and Jim era, if next week's hearing goes as we expect it to. We are currently a few days away from the showdown, and so far, Team Murdock has failed to publicly produce any convincing evidence of jury tampering, which means, unless they come up with some major Murdock magic in the next few days,
Starting point is 00:02:15 Justice Toll will likely shut down their quest for a new trial, and Ellic will continue serving his life behind bars for the murders of his wife and son as he should. But this is still Murdoch World. Anything could happen. And speaking of that, Attorney Joe McCullough, who is Dick Harputlian's friend who is representing two jurors in this case, suffered a heart attack this week. He is reportedly in stable condition and we hope that he continues to recover. The Post and Courier reported that another lawyer from his firm is expected to cover for him
Starting point is 00:02:51 at next week's hearing, but it is also possible that he will make a showing. On Friday, January 26th, one of the jurors who rendered a verdict in Ellick Murdoch's murder trial will be questioned by Justice Toll as a part of the Evidentiary hearing, which technically begins next week.
Starting point is 00:03:09 The juror, who's being represented by Eric Bland, could not make it to next week's hearing. According to our understanding, we will not be able to broadcast the hearing on Friday, but we will be there to update premium members on what happened Friday and we will be broadcasting the hearing Monday and Tuesday to Lunasherk premium members on what happened Friday and we will be broadcasting the hearing Monday and Tuesday to Luna Shark Premium members. Check your premium feed on Friday to hear from us about what went down and check your premium feed on Monday for live coverage. Speaking of premium, I want to say a special thanks to all of the new members this month.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Today, which is Thursday, we will be broadcasting a full hearing of the Judicial Merit Selection Commission, which shows lawmakers questioning the controversial prosecutor, David Miller, specifically about the Bow and Turner case. Because the JMSC apparently does not like transparency, they didn't broadcast the hearing live.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But now that lawmakers are set to vote on judges beginning next month, we thought now is the time to add a little sunshine to this dark corner of our state. So we will be broadcasting the entire hearing and commenting for premium members, starting at noon Thursday January 25th. So y'all can see the insanity for yourselves. It is truly unreal to watch some of the most powerful people in our state operate as if they don't have a clue, nor do they care about the actual concerns of South Carolina citizens, nor do they care about public safety, and boy,
Starting point is 00:04:46 do they certainly not care about victims of sexual assault. You will see it for yourself tomorrow. While we have a bit of an Elix Murdoch break this week, we wanted to talk about something really important that is expected to happen the week after Elix Evaniciary hearing, and that is judicial elections. Remember, the way our state elects judges is unusual, and basically the same way fraternities and sororities handle Rush. But no one is making a Rush talk out of this.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I promise you. No one wants to see what outfits these potential future members of the judicial branch are wearing while they're on their hands and knees of the state house steps. Begging. Legislators for their votes. I say this, as someone who went through sorority rush, go Delta Gamma a long time ago. As I was reading dozens of documents of how judicial candidates are rated and questioned, it dawned on me.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Our state is straight up using the same system that frats and sororities use for recruiting social members, but to elect our judges. You know, some of the most important members of our judicial system, the ones who decide which people get their freedom taken away. During sorority recruitment, circa 2008, we couldn't talk about the three B's, boys, booze, or bars, when we were talking to recruits. This was drilled into every sorority girl and recruits head from day one at the University of Kansas.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But it was silly, because we were 18-year-old college girls rushing sororities. How could we not talk about the three things that were pretty much central to Greek life and the college experience? So the talk of the three Bs was mostly in whispers, and the talk was in code with the cool girls who you knew wouldn't tell on you. It seems like the JMSC has similar unspoken rules. They can't and don't talk about the thing that is central to their existence,
Starting point is 00:06:53 that those few people in our state with the power to elect our judges wield unspoken power from the state house to the courtroom. That power has tipped the scales of justice for far too long in South Carolina. South Carolina is one of only two states in the union that uses the legislative elective process, by the way. Virginia is the other one.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Our legislator elects our judges. It is a process that we believe is largely responsible for there being two distinct systems of justice, one that can be upgraded for VIPs. This system means that judges, in South Carolina at least, are very much aware of the power that legislators, legislator lawyers in particular, hold over them, and it means that legislators are very much aware of the power that they hold over judges. And power can be leveraged, and that which can be leveraged can be traded upon.
Starting point is 00:07:55 This system makes legislator lawyers' private practices potentially more profitable, and it gives a certain class of attorneys in the state much more power in the courtroom, especially when their clients can afford to surreptitiously fund a judge's upheaval. So becoming a South Carolina judge means having to schmooze a lot of people along the way, including members of their local bar associations as well as the state bar. There are also rules that everyone has to follow to quote-unquote prevent favoritism, and there's a half-hearted attempt by the members of the Judicial Merit Selection Commission to maintain the appearance of an open-minded process,
Starting point is 00:08:38 but everyone knows that the decisions are often made long before the candidates have even appeared for their interviews. The whole thing is seriously cringy. There are good people who want to service judges, whose judgeships we would benefit from as a society, and they have to engage in this wicked game, or they cannot come to the party. As we speak, there is likely an assortment of the more than three dozen judicial candidates vying for contested seats right now gathering in the lobby of the state house so they can shake hands with and get hazed by the likes of Dick Harpooleon. Oh, and make no mistake about it. Legislators love that attention. They love this recognition of their power. And not just the legislators,
Starting point is 00:09:25 we've heard Jill McCullough was even up in the mix recently, meeting and greeting judicial candidates. On January 16th, about two months after they initially appeared in front of the JMSC for their hearings, the judicial candidates were finally allowed to lobby for votes and secure commitments from various legislators, hence all the handshaking at the state house. Here's a fun story. In 2006, when Judge Carmen Mullen was first going through the election process, Judge Mullen, the Murdoch connected judge,
Starting point is 00:09:56 whose permissiveness allowed for the Satterfield heist to happen and who was on body camera, ordering a sheriff's deputy to arrest a man who'd committed no crime, just to get him out of her upscale neighborhood. The JMSC asked her if she understood the rules against lobbying legislators before a certain date. Mullen was like, yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Then they made her explain the rule, which she did. They also asked her whether she'd contacted any member of the commission to which she responded no before altering her answer to, except Senator Cleary. I have called his office and it was before he was actually put on this commission. He and I did exchange voicemails. I don't believe I've ever spoken with even one of his assistants at his dental office. I had left a message stating that I was going to be in his territory and wanted to stop by. And he called me back and left me a very nice message that said,
Starting point is 00:10:48 I'll be in my dental office, you know, all day Friday if you'd like to stop by. Unfortunately, I got caught up and couldn't get by there. And in the meantime, he was obviously put on this committee, so I contacted you, Ms. Shuler, and you would extend my apologies. And again, Senator, I hope you forgive me for never calling you back and not showing up. Obviously, it would not have been appropriate. Oopsie.
Starting point is 00:11:12 That was just one slick answer among many. My favorite part of her interview with the JMSC in 2006 was when she told them that, when it comes to white-collar crimes, quote, stealing is stealing. And therefore sentencing should be commensurate with that crime. In 2020, during her reelection hearing, she had changed her philosophy on that significantly and said that if white collar criminals can't pay back the money they stole, then they should go to prison. Mind you,
Starting point is 00:11:41 this was after ol Elic Murdoch and his best co-conspirator, Corey Fleming, were able to get her to overlook all the red flags in the Satterfield case when, had she asked one single duty-bound question, it would have caused the entire plot to fall apart. Okay, so on February 7th, South Carolina Senators in the House of Representatives are expected to vote in a joint session to elect judges. They will be electing our Chief Justice, the Pellet Judges, Family Court Judges, an Administrative Law Judge, and Circuit Court Judges.
Starting point is 00:12:13 That date is still tentative and hasn't been decided yet though. There are 23 open seats on the Circuit Court. That's 19 regular seats and four at large seats. 13 of those 23 seats have candidates running unopposed. 10 of those 13 seats are current judges who are seeking reelection. The remaining three seats that are unopposed include one in the 14th Circuit, which is Murdoch Country.
Starting point is 00:12:41 That one has Master Inequity Judge Marvin Dukes running for it. There's a seat in the 13th Circuit being sought by a current family court judge and then there's a seat in the 7th Circuit being sought by the son of a former Circuit Court Judge, Jay Durham Cole, Jr. He's also a former legislator who decided not to seek reelection in 2018 and went on to a newly created and high ranking chancellor position at the University of South Carolina Upstate, but not before receiving the Order of the Palmetto from Governor Henry McMaster. The Order of the Palmetto is the highest civilian honor in the state and it's presented by the governor to those who have made, quote, extraordinary contributions to the state.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Randolph Murdoch III was awarded the same honor. So in November, the JMSC held hearings where each candidate appeared before them. Though the hearings were public, and though the South Carolina legislature routinely livestreams their public meetings, recordings of the hearing were not made public until January 11th along with transcripts from the hearing.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Additionally, the JMSC released its nearly 600 page report including qualifications of each candidate. The legislature will ostensibly use this report to help guide their decisions next month. Now, this process has come under a lot of scrutiny over the years, but particularly over the past few years now that Ellick Murdoch is a household name and everyone is getting a peek under the hood of South Carolina's long-corrupted justice system. We've reported before on a lot of the elements
Starting point is 00:14:16 of this corrupted justice system, all with roots firmly planted by the judicial selection process. We've told you about the Carmen Mullen issues. We have told you about Gerard Price and State Senator Todd Rutherford's ability to secure secret early releases for his imprisoned clients. And we've told you about Bowen Turner, the Orangeburg County teen who was accused of raping three teenage girls in three counties between 2018 and 2019.
Starting point is 00:14:46 For a refresher on the Bow and Turner case, we suggest listening to the Bow and Turner playlist on the Lunasherk website. Check the link in the description. The Bow and Turner case is one of the most telling cases beyond the Murdochs. It's a case that has exposed so many facets of a system that basically allows wealthy defendants to purchase their way out of accountability. Now many people who just heard that line will say wait a minute, but when went to prison, he didn't get a buy his way out of it any more than Paul Murdoch.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But here's the thing, those two are but for situations. But for media scrutiny, the plan likely would have worked. But for sunlight, those two cases would have gone away quietly in the dark. Bowen, like Paul, was able to afford a legislator attorney to help fight his charges. In Paul's case, the strategy was to wait everyone out. Dick Harpulian was planning to sit on Paul's case
Starting point is 00:15:45 for at least five years in the hopes that the AG's office would lose its resolve as more and more witnesses fell out, as is often the situation when cases take years to prosecute. Dick was intent on Paul getting a plea deal that amounted to a suspended sentence with probation. In Bowen's case, his family hired Senator Brad Hutto, who was able to secure a plea deal that included a suspended sentence with probation. And soon after, Bowen, some would say predictably, ended up violating that deal.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And that is how he ended up behind bars for less than two years. Bowen's case put a much needed spotlight on several things. One it exposed the bullying that his victims experienced at the hands of Bowen's friends and their parents. Bullying that was so severe that it led to the death of one of his victims, Dala Stoller. His case also further exposed the power that legislator lawyers have over those wanting to become judges in South Carolina.
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Starting point is 00:18:16 at becoming a judge. Fifth attempt. For the past 12 years, he has been working toward this goal, which is why his questionable decisions as they relate to two legislator attorneys matter, especially given that one of the two is a member of the commission that serves as the gatekeeper for judicial nominations. Let's hear from that guy, by the way. Here's Todd Rutherford at David Miller's hearing on November 18th, 2020. The videos for JMSC hearings prior to this past year's hearings are not available to the public because there simply are none. According to the chief counsel for the JMSC,
Starting point is 00:18:53 this past year was the first year these hearings were ever filmed. So here's David Moses reading for Todd Rutherford. Sir, I just, I don't have a question, but I did want Mr. Miller to know rather furred. probably doing wrong, but that he thinks he can fix it. And he very ably and kindly fixes it every single time. And he has just been a prince of a guy over the years that I've known him, and has been an awesome solicitor and an awesome person. And I think at the appropriate time would make an awesome judge. So, David, again, I can't thank you enough for all of the pitfalls you've helped me avoid
Starting point is 00:19:46 and all of the personalities you've helped me understand. And David was, in fact, the solicitor on the call when the victim, who I thought, who had paid me to represent this defendant and get him out of jail, then flipped on the Zoom call and told me how he was. My client was going to kill her with the bullet that she found in her car. And David called me and we laughed about it later. But David is always a good sport,
Starting point is 00:20:12 always a great solicitor. So again, thank you for continuing your endeavor to make it to this high honor. Now, I'd like you to hold what you just heard in your head from David Miller's 2020 hearing and listen to David Moses read you an excerpt from a story that ran in the state newspaper last fall with the headline, Early Release of South Carolina Man Who Terrorized Family in 2006 Home Invasion Shrouded in Secrecy. This story is about Alberto Lopez, another prisoner who was released early
Starting point is 00:20:46 in a secretive process led by legislator attorney and powerful member of the JMSC, Todd Rutherford. Deputy Solicitor David Miller, a self-described point man on quote, weird stuff, end quote, for the Second Circuit Solicitor's office, spearheaded the office's handling of Lopez's Substantial Assistance Case, quote, it's not something that happens every day
Starting point is 00:21:12 or even every month, end quote. He said of Substantial Assistance Claims, quote, but it just so happened that I had done this before, I knew the process." Miller said Rutherford contacted him in 2020 and told him he had an Aiken County client in the Department of Corrections who was entitled to a sentence reduction under the Substantial Assistance Statute. The Second Circuit Solicitor's Office took no position on relief for Lopez because it wasn't familiar with the substance of his assistance, Miller said. Other than filing a motion in August 2020 to get the process rolling and notifying the Circuit's Chief Judge as the statute requires,
Starting point is 00:21:58 the solicitor's office took mostly a hands-off approach to the case," he said. When Rutherford called Miller shortly after filing and told him he needed the motion to be sealed, the deputy solicitor said the request made perfect sense to him. Lopez was an informant whose safety could be jeopardized if his cooperation was revealed. So he went to judge Courtney Clyburn Pope, a second circuit jurist who happened to be with him at the
Starting point is 00:22:25 Aiken County Courthouse at the time and asked her to seal the motion. Clyburn Pope, the daughter of longtime State Representative Bill Clyburn, a Democrat from Aiken, signed an order placing the motion and any resulting orders under seal. Miller said, quote, I don't think anybody thought twice about the fact that this should be done to protect Lopez,' end quote, he said. According to Miller, that's more or less where his direct involvement in the case ended."
Starting point is 00:22:58 You're seeing what I see, right? The same year that Todd Rutherford sang David Miller's praises, calling him a prince of a man, Rutherford got substantial assistance from Miller and was able to get 14 years shaved off his client's prison sentence. In the very same breath that Miller is saying he wasn't familiar with what assistance Lopez allegedly provided to the Department of Corrections, he's also saying that it made perfect sense to him to seal the records, keep them from the sunlight, because of the assistance that Lopez provided to the Department of Corrections,
Starting point is 00:23:35 which Miller said he wasn't familiar with. This kind of thing plays out in front of our very eyes over and over and over, and yet so many people refuse to see it because seeing it is hard. When you see it, you are going up against the most powerful groups of people in the state, lawyers. And not just lawyers, but lawyers who are part of the legislature, and not just lawyer legislators, but lawyer legislators on the JMSC who choose their own judges. They are unaffected by this criticism. The reward is too big for them.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Rutherford does not care if people don't like what they're seeing. Speaker of the House, Merle Smith, does not care. Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey doesn't care. Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Luke Rankin, does not care. Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey doesn't care. Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Luke Rankin, does not care. They are waiting all of us out, waiting for the scrutiny to go away. So one thing to know about the judicial merit selection process is that there are nine criteria that candidates must be qualified on. They must first be constitutionally qualified, which means be at least 32 years old, or be residents of the state, things like that. They also must be
Starting point is 00:24:50 administratively qualified. In other words, not be a current member of the General Assembly, for example. They are also evaluated for ethical fitness, professional and academic ability, character, reputation, physical and mental health, their experience, and their temperament. It's on the JMSC and the state bar to quote, investigate each candidate. I say quote, investigate because again, like we keep saying, this is like rushing a fraternity or sorority. You can't find what you don't look for. Now, one of the biggest hurdles for a judicial candidate is that thing called temperament. We've had a lot of conversations about what that means. Here's
Starting point is 00:25:30 David Moses with the JMSC's definition. Conduct, which is arrogant, impatient, or arbitrary, is an impediment to the administration of justice, and this should be considered by the commission. When Judge Carmen Mullen was first up for reelection in 2015, she did not have to appear for a public hearing. It was waived for her. But for her 2021 reelection, she was brought in front of the Commission. Though State Senator Luke Rankin seemed to take great pains to get as much as he could on the record about Judge Mullen's volunteer work in Tanzania.
Starting point is 00:26:05 It didn't fully mask the issue. As part of the judicial selection process, lawyers and members of the public can submit feedback on the candidates. During Judge Mullen's 2021 reelection, more than 650 surveys were submitted to her ballot box from the bar, and more than 80 comments came in from additional places.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Of those comments, 13 expressed concern about her temperament. The commission asked her how she'd respond to comments about her poor demeanor. Here's David Moses with what she said. I don't know exactly what a poor demeanor would be. I don't know. You know, like I said, you know, it's sometimes patience is difficult. My joke is that my screensaver on my computer is quote, patience is a virtue, end quote. Because sometimes it's very difficult when, you know, I understand what lawyers are trying
Starting point is 00:26:59 to do, but you know, when come in front of me and I'm hearing a lot of motions and they want to tell me what the standard is for summer re-judgment, you know, respectfully, I hear that motion every single day, all day long. Don't tell me what the what the law is. I know the law and something that's, you know, pretty straightforward. Talk to me about your case. Talk to me about your case. Talk to me about your facts." Judge Mullen didn't argue with the commission though. She told them that sometimes she does get tired and needs a break. She made a joke about whether those comments maybe had come
Starting point is 00:27:35 from her husband. The commission then asked her this. Some of these concerns with temperament talked about eye- rolling and facial expressions. What do you think about that comment? She said it surprised her to hear that and she couldn't imagine where that had come from. She told the commission about how there was this one time when a defense attorney had criticized her for being too nice to a child's sex abuse victim, but other than that, she was stumped. That said, she told the commission that she would do better and curb her potential eye-rolling. Now, you all know our opinion of Judge Mullen, but we have to point out that women come under fire
Starting point is 00:28:16 way too often for perceived tone and temperament issues that otherwise would not register with people. So this in no way is an indictment of Judge Mullen's demeanor in the courtroom. But this example shows you how murky of a qualification temperament is. It's a qualification that's widely open to interpretation and one that can easily be used to bully a judge who isn't ruling the way someone powerful wanted her to. So if a lawyer doesn't like a judge's decision, they can just complain about that judge's temperament come their next election. And if the commission wants to remind that judge of its power, they can make an issue
Starting point is 00:28:55 out of it, or they can choose to ignore it altogether. In David Miller's case, temperament, in addition to a lot of issues that we'll get into in a second, came up in November 2023. This next excerpt has been edited for brevity. The part we cut out pertain to him believing that the number of friends he has is a testament to his ability to make sure he does not offend anyone. I am aware that I am certainly passionate about the positions that I take in the courtroom. I do think it's fair to point out in that regard that there are times whenever because of my position as the end of the line before you get to the solicitor making decisions that there's going to be disagreements about cases.
Starting point is 00:29:52 There's going to be disagreements about what needs to be done and I know that there are a lot of times when I'm really trying hard to find some kind of reasonable compromise and working to try to find some way to help a lawyer with their client or to help a victim get some kind of relief that maybe the circumstances don't necessarily normally look like that. And sometimes you just got to draw the line in the sand. And that can be interpreted poorly. So I try to make sure that that doesn't carry on. Obviously though on the bench, you're not an advocate. You're not an advocate for either side. And so that is one of the reasons why I feel like I would have a better control over anything that was going on in front of me.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I mean, I'm not advocating for either side in that position. Whereas as a deputy solicitor, I have to advocate for the state. His response was basically, I'm passionate about what I do and my job is hard and therefore people are misinterpreting my steadfast loyalty as an advocate for the state as me having a temper issue.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Now, this is important. Miller's demeanor was brought up to the commission not only by comments that were sent in, but by in-person testimony from Carl Stoller, the father of Dallas Stoller, who was one of Bowen Turner's victims. Good afternoon. My name is Carl Stoller. I came to speak to you today as a parent of a victim, one Dallas St, and also has a law enforcement officer in the state. In my capacity and law enforcement I've had been privileged to deal with many fine judges, solicitors, and even attorneys on the defense side. But I've never quite had the occasion to deal with someone quite like Mr. Miller. What I
Starting point is 00:32:07 experienced as a parent of a victim was someone who I would bring his character in the question after dealing with him, his demeanor, and his general lackadaisical attitude towards that case. And what I mean by that is I never met the man. Okay, I talked to him one time on the phone with one of us. And again, as a law enforcement officer, I've never experienced. Now, a few side notes here. One is that David Miller's hearing was scheduled for 3.45 on November 8, 2023. For weeks, that was the time it was scheduled. But around one that afternoon, the hearing got moved to 1.45.
Starting point is 00:32:58 At the start of the hearing, Representative Micah Kasky noted that there were four affidavits contesting Miller's candidacy, but that only two of the four people were present at the hearing, so the commission could only consider the testimony of the two people who were there and not of the affidavits from the other two people. The two people who were there were Carl and Victim's advocate attorney Sarah Ford, who represented the rape victims in the Turner case to make sure that their rights were protected throughout the process. The second side note is, again, this was not televised at the time of the public hearing. We didn't get to see the video until recently, and for some reason, Carl's microphone cut
Starting point is 00:33:38 out in the middle of his initial testimony to the commission, so we've had to rely on the transcript of the hearing to know what he told them during that part. Here's David Moses with what Carl said happened with David Miller. He stated during that Zoom meeting, he was somewhat apologetic initially, but he said, you know, in light of Dallas's death, they had decided to dismiss the charges
Starting point is 00:34:03 against Mr. Turner regarding Dallas's case. That did not come as a complete surprise to me because I do know it's very difficult to prosecute a case without a victim. I get that. Even more so when the victim's deceased, I understand that too. However, it's just a matter of fact approach to it. And I do know as an officer that you can prosecute some cases without the cooperation of the victim. I've done it on assault and battery cases myself in Magistrate
Starting point is 00:34:29 Court. I'm not a prosecutor, so I don't do it on a general sessions court level, but obviously, you know, law enforcement generally in the misdemeanor level cases does their own prosecution in those summary courts. And I didn't have the cooperation of a victim. Some I was successful with, some I wasn't. But to my point, I questioned him and I asked him, I said, do you think that you actually did the best job you could for not just my daughter, but all these victims involved? And his response, he fired back at me. He was angry that I even asked that. He said, I absolutely do. He said, as a matter of fact, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:35:05 tell you this. And a sled agent witnessed this conversation. Our attorney, other people on the Zoom call, a lady from the Attorney General's office, he said, I'm not wasting my time or 12 jurors time on a case I can't win. Is that the kind of person that we want as a circuit judge in South Carolina? Now, is it pragmatic for a solicitor not to expend state resources on a case that he doesn't believe will result in the defendant behind bars? Sure, of course that argument can be made, but when it comes to cases of sexual assault, that argument is a cop-out in our opinion. These cases are challenging ones, and solicitors like Miller tend to talk themselves out of those challenges because they want wins, they want victims who present well, and they want everything to be
Starting point is 00:35:59 clear cut. And in our experience with the justice system, these cases often are not clear cut. And even when solicitors have the two elements that they want, they still hesitate. Beyond that, in this case, Miller did not seem to intend on keeping that defendant behind bars either way. Instead, he signed off on a lawyer-legislator negotiated plea deal that allowed Bowen to remain free, which Bowen immediately violated with public drunkenness, mouthing off to a female employee of the detention center and threatening to bite off the finger of a deputy. So the prosecutor's office got nothing out of the deal.
Starting point is 00:36:40 The public got nothing out of the deal. What did David Miller get out of that deal? Well, he got to be seen as helpful to a very powerful lawyer legislator. But oh, how that has backfired on him. Miller's temperament has been an issue for him since the very start. In 2012, it was brought to his attention by the commission and his response was, well, he's a passionate guy. We don't have a transcript from when he tried again to become a judge in 2016 because he withdrew before the commission voted on his nomination.
Starting point is 00:37:15 In 2019, when he was just one of three candidates buying to fill a vacant seat in Aiken County, he told the commission that complaints about his temperament concerned him but that he was baffled by them and didn't understand where they were coming from. It seemed to surprise him but again, he blamed it on his passion for his job. Additionally, the commission brought it to his attention that a complaint had been made about sexist comments he'd reportedly made about women's bodies. The complaint called Miller arrogant. His response, again, he was mystified as to where that could have come from. In 2020, when he again tried to become a judge,
Starting point is 00:37:53 he was told by the commission that they had received complaints about his ability to control his anger and his lack of respect for others. Again, Miller was confused. He had no idea where this could be coming from other than it's the nature of his work and things get misinterpreted. Then, in 2023, it all came to a head for him with the Turner case. Not only did people complain about him,
Starting point is 00:38:17 they were there in person to discuss the issue and the issue went far beyond his temperament. We'll be right back. As a part of her complaint, Sarah Ford filed a 404 page exhibit of email exchanges and court filings in the Bowen Turner case between 2019 and 2023. The emails fill in the blanks of a storyline we are all too familiar with, an aggressive and powerful state senator calling the shots in our justice system.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And Brad Hodo, by the way, isn't just a state senator. He is a powerhouse. He has been in the state senate since 1996 and is currently the senate minority leader. Now, Bowen was first arrested a few months after Dallas' assault in January 2019. But remember, Bowen was accused of raping a teenage girl in April 2018, six months before Dallas' assault. But still, in early 2019, Judge McFadden did not consider Bowen to be a danger to society, and he released him on a $10,000 bond. 41 days after Judge McFadden released Turner in early June 2019, Bowen assaulted Chloe Bess, his third high school victim in a third South Carolina
Starting point is 00:39:47 county. Bowen Turner was initially denied bond and temporarily sent to the Department of Juvenile Justice until Senator Brad Hutto entered the picture as Bowen's new attorney and demanded another bond hearing, where he, Mr. Champion of Women's Rights, slut-shamed Chloe Bess, and claimed to the court that Chloe's rape was simply consensual sex that she was not proud of after. I will never forget this quote, and I have to say it again. From Brad Hutto, well guess what? You had sex on the ground with a boy you didn't know, and you got up and
Starting point is 00:40:25 you feel ashamed. You feel regret. That's not rape. I had to quote that again because, oh my god, a state senator who claims to fight for women actually said those words to a teenage girl and never apologized for them. Bowen then got out on a $100,000 bond and supposedly a strict ankle monitor situation, which wasn't strict at all. For the next two years, Brad Hutto, as state senators do, managed to stall and delay any progress with the case
Starting point is 00:40:59 and David Miller made it easy for him. In 2019, Sarah Ford kept pushing for a preliminary hearing, but David Miller and Brad Hutto stalled and stalled, and they never ended up having one. Brad mentioned in an email that he didn't want any more publicity on the case, and that was in 2019. That preliminary hearing would have likely been validating for Dallas and for Chloe, who were both being harassed, maligned, and attacked for reporting their assaults to the police. It would have been the
Starting point is 00:41:30 first time a prosecutor would present to the public some of the evidence against Bowen Turner. Dallas and Chloe never got that validation, though. They just got a lot of silence. It was heartbreaking to read the emails about Dallas in 2020, knowing the level of pain she was enduring at the time and how much it would have meant to her to have a prosecutor care about her case. After several emails back in July 2020, David Miller agreed to meet with Dallas in August 2020 via Zoom.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Sarah Ford attended that meeting and said Dallas could tell that there was no sense of urgency on David Miller's part. And that really weighed on her. In late 2020, Sarah Ford, who again is representing the victims, started to get understandably pesky on behalf of her clients. Here is David reading the email from Sarah. Hi, David.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I know Sled has given you the case file on this matter, and it is my understanding that we are waiting on a decision on whether your office will prosecute. Please let me know your timeframe for this decision as the family is understandably anxious awaiting this decision. I appreciate your time, attention, and consideration to this matter. Best. Sarah.
Starting point is 00:42:47 In November 2020, Sarah sent the following email to Miller. Crickets? If it's being prosecuted or not, the family deserves to know. Let's meet either way and get it done. Thursday at 3 p.m.? That works well for me. Miller responded. Thursday at 3 p.m.? That works well for me. Miller responded. No decision has been made about prosecuting the case. There is no reason for any meeting until a decision is made.
Starting point is 00:43:13 You will be informed as soon as that happens. Then Sarah responded. Well, the one good thing is you are just ignoring the emails and you haven't fallen ill with COVID, David. The bad thing is this family requested this investigation be reopened back in August 2019 after somewhat questionable reasons encouraging them not to proceed. Sled wrapped in June of 2020 and this is November 10, 2020.
Starting point is 00:43:44 We are coming up on three years since the incident date. This family isn't looking for a crystal three-year anniversary platter, they're looking for justice for their daughter. And you're the only man they can look to to try to get that, David. I've done everything I can to explain how things take time and investigations are slow,
Starting point is 00:44:06 and there's always delays, and I've been in David's shoes and yada, yada, yada. And at this point, I barely believe it myself. These are good people who have been more than patient, who have placed their trust in the system, and they're understandably about to crawl out of their skin and want to give up. But their main focus is on justice for their child. Please give them the respect and courtesy of fully considering this case and prosecuting this matter.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Can I just say thank God for Sarah Ford, one of the few people in this system who actually gives a damn about victims and its shows. In the emails, I noticed how eager David Miller was to accommodate Brad Hudow's needs. He responded quickly and granted his random request for Bowen to get permission to leave his house arrest for different scenarios. Yet, when David Miller was contacted several times beginning in 2019 from Sled about rumors of Bowen breaking his house arrest violation, that sense of urgency just didn't exist. Nor did that sense of urgency exist for Sarah Ford.
Starting point is 00:45:22 In September 2021, Sarah Ford again emailed David Miller to ask for an update. She knew that the victims needed answers in this case as soon as possible. Here is how David Miller responded. We have one term left in Bamberg this year, in November. In theory, we don't have to try the Bamberg case first, but Brad Hutto has protection indefinitely because he is on the redistricting
Starting point is 00:45:52 committee. I am guessing that will be the case until they go back in session and then he'll be protected until next August. I don't believe that there is a realistic chance of getting the case resolved, but I continue to discuss the case with Hutto every time I see him. When we last spoke, at a preliminary hearing on another case, he claimed he wanted to get something done with it, but he apparently doesn't want to try it, and he knows I'm not going to dismiss it.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I wish I had something more definite, but that's about all I can tell you for now." Time passed, and the weight of the case became unbearable to Dallas Stoller. From the lack of action from Miller's office in her case, to the continued bullying from people in her hometown who called her a liar, to the PTSD from the assault itself, Dallas' sister Brett told us that Dallas became physically ill with stomach ulcers from the assault itself. Dallas sister Brett told us that Dallas became physically ill with stomach ulcers from the stress of it all. Just two months after David Miller replied to that email using Brad's legislative status as an excuse for his inaction, Dallas Hayes Stahler unfortunately
Starting point is 00:46:58 succumbed to a self-inflicted wound on November 14th, 2021. She was just 21 years old. And the awful thing is that David Miller never bothered to send Sarah Ford a simple I'm so sorry about Dallas email. Instead, he saw her death as an excuse to get out of a tough case against a powerful state senator. At least that's what the emails show. In January 2021, after hearing several tips that Turner was violating his bond conditions, Sled finally ran a report on his GPS ankle monitor. Between November 2021 and February 2022, there were more than 65 examples of Bowen breaking the rules to go golfing, go to random apartments, go to bed bath and beyond.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And perhaps the most concerning, he visited the cemetery where Dallas Stoller was buried. As I was pouring through these emails this week, I was just trying to answer a simple question. How does a thrice-accused rapist who violated his bond 65 times wind up getting a sweetheart deal and his charges dropped? violated his bond 65 times, wind up getting a sweetheart deal, and his charges dropped during a hearing where he would normally be sent back to jail for breaking the law.
Starting point is 00:48:12 How does that happen? So on March 22nd, David Miller wrote the following email to Sarah Ford. The motion to revoke is based on repeated violations. We were able to get them confirmed through the GPS monitoring company and a lot of work by SA Bacallister. I'm hoping we have enough now that the judge will see this wasn't a one-time slip-up and that Turner's parents are not, in fact, monitoring him.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I'd love to figure out a way to convince Judge Dennis to have him drug tested because I'm sure he wouldn't pass. But frankly, if the judge won't revoke him based on the information we are presenting him with, then he wouldn't revoke because of a failed drug test either. And on March 25, 2022, David Miller filed a motion to revoke Turner's bond due to his many violations. That same day, Miller sent the motion to Hutto that stated they have asked for a hearing on the bond revocation to be scheduled on April 4, 2022, in front of Judge Markley Dennis after apparently multiple judges recused themselves from the case,
Starting point is 00:49:26 which is also odd. That same day, by the way, David Miller filed a motion to compel production of a DNA sample from Turner. The motion stated that in 2019, Bowen's DNA was ID'd by Sled as a match to the DNA profile from Siemens submitted after Chloe Bess's assault. So if they needed more DNA, why wasn't that gathered earlier? It's like in March 2022, David Miller suddenly realized that he needed to start collecting proper evidence for a sexual assault case that took place three years before. Well, after March 25th, David Miller seemed to flip from the side of justice and the side of victims
Starting point is 00:50:06 to the side of a powerful lawyer-lawmaker representing a thrice-accused rapist. It was clear in his March 30th email to Sarah Ford that things changed. Brad Hutto contacted me and indicated he would like to try to get the case completely resolved instead of hearing the motion to revoke. He has some conflict with Monday, but we would need time to meet with the best family to discuss any potential plea, and wouldn't be able to do that by then anyway.
Starting point is 00:50:42 So we are aiming to get on the schedule in Orangeburg Friday, April 8th. Obviously, we would also like to meet with the Stoller family before then as well. On that Friday, we will either have the motion heard or Turner would be entering a guilty plea. Sarah Ford replied politely, thanks for the update. Would the plea be in both cases? Before then, apparently Miller hadn't mentioned anything about dropping Dallas' case. Miller emailed her back with his reasoning. There will not be a plea in the Stoller case. Without Dallas to testify, we cannot ethically pursue a conviction. And I do not believe that Brad Hutto can ethically plead his client to a charge regarding any assault on her. As such, any offer will be on the best case alone."
Starting point is 00:51:32 I want to point out that at the end of most of his emails, David Miller included this quote from Harry Filo, quote, we are the lawyers on the side of the people. Never let us forget that the law is never settled until it is settled right. It is never right until it is just, and it is never just until it serves society to the fullest. Gosh, I hope he sees the irony there. Because here, he is giving up on a case that is nor right right nor just, and his decision to quit is not at all serving society. Mind you, Dallas was willing to testify for three years before she died.
Starting point is 00:52:15 An eyewitness saw Bowen pulling his pants up as an unconscious Dallas laid in the dirt that night. They had DNA from her sexual assault exam. The one that a nurse at an Orangeburg hospital discouraged her from getting. They had photos of Dallas' injuries, her bruises, her scratches, and her strangulation marks. But suddenly, after David Miller spoke with Brad Hudow in late March 2022, suddenly that evidence that he could have looked at in the three years prior was not enough. Suddenly, after stringing Dallas Stoller along to the point that she couldn't take it anymore,
Starting point is 00:52:52 suddenly that evidence was not enough. And I have to add this, it seems like Brad Hutto jumped on the opportunity when Judge Markley Dennis, who hadn't been scheduled to preside over a case in Orangeburg in nearly a decade, was assigned to the case, Dennis, who once sentenced a father who pleaded guilty to raping his own minor daughter to therapy. When Huddo saw the opportunity to appear before Dennis, that is when he suddenly wanted to resolve the case instead of holding a bond revocation hearing. Normally, a defense attorney in Hutto's shoes with a thrice-accused rapist client who was caught violating his bond an absurd amount of times wouldn't think to have the audacity
Starting point is 00:53:37 to say to a prosecutor, hey, instead of sending my client back to jail, let's work out a deal where we drop most of the charges and my client gets probation. I would like to think that most prosecutors in the United States would say, um, no. We have evidence of the rapes and the bond violations. He needs to go back to jail, and then we need to go to trial. But most prosecutors in the United States aren't running for a judgeship. As Miller was during this time, where his fate is determined by a small group of people, including the absurd defense attorney that he's up against, so here we are.
Starting point is 00:54:18 On April 4th, 2022, David Miller emailed Sarah Ford the offer for Turner to plead guilty to one count of assault in Chloe's case and be sentenced to probation under the Youth Offenders Act. He would not be required to register as a sex offender. Obviously. The victims were stunned and frankly offended by the offer, and Sarah Ford immediately tried to fight it. The Stoller family and the Best family met with Miller via Zoom, and Miller told the Stollers that he didn't want to spend tax dollars on a case that he couldn't win.
Starting point is 00:54:54 But at that point, the victims were still thinking that the offer was not finalized. They were thinking they could still fight it at the April 8th hearing. They thought that they could plead with the judge in court that week during the hearing that they thought would be about bond revocation. After all, they had been waiting for the wheels of justice to turn in their case for more than three years. Certainly, the state wouldn't rush to finalize a bad deal like this one. But here are David Miller's own words describing what happened on April 8th, 2022.
Starting point is 00:55:30 On Friday, April 8th, 2022, all parties appeared in Orangeburg for the hearing. Prior to the hearing, the presiding judge asked the attorneys to come into chambers, which was not surprising, considering the size of the audience and the amount of media in the courtroom. Senator Hutto and I explained to the judge what was going on.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Ms. Ford explained she had motions she wanted to argue in the case. Two were motions I had been emailed Wednesday evening. The third was a, quote, motion to enforce victim rights, end quote, that had been handed to me along with copies of the other two motions when I walked into the courtroom. Until Ms. Ford mentioned her motion
Starting point is 00:56:12 to enforce victim rights, I did not realize there was actually a third motion I hadn't seen before. It's like he's saying what victims rights, like he did absolutely nothing wrong in this situation Then of course Bowen Turner walked away with a sweetheart deal of a lifetime Which he soon screwed up by violating his probation order that eventually sent him to prison for almost two years The problem we have with David Miller when it comes to his fitness for judgeship is this. For three years, he dropped the ball on the Bow and Turner case over and over again.
Starting point is 00:56:51 He kicked the can so far down the road that one of the victims eventually lost her life, waiting for the system to save her. His inactions made the victims feel hopeless, and that hopelessness led to Dallas losing her own life. Dallas' death should have been a wake-up call for Miller. He should have vowed to fight for Chloe and for Dallas, and for all the victims of sexual assault. He should have vowed to do what he could so that victims no longer feel defeated by the system. He should have gone to trial in Chloe's case. He should have gone to trial in Dallas's case.
Starting point is 00:57:32 He should have tried and at least shown victims of sexual assault that he cares enough to try. Instead, he poured salt in their wounds and allowed a powerful state senator to dictate his own client's case with no one to stop him, all at the expense of public safety. David Miller fundamentally overlooked his duty to serve the people in favor of serving the defense. Likely, he did this because he wanted a judgeship.
Starting point is 00:58:00 That was the problem, and he had done it before with Todd Rutherford in the Lopez case. But that wasn't the problem that the JMSC focused on when they held a hearing in November to allegedly screen Miller to see if he was qualified for a judgeship. They didn't focus on that because how could they? Focusing on that problem would be dangerous for them. They don't want to remind the public of the dirty deals done in the dark between lawmakers and attorneys that want to impress them. Nope, that threatens their power.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Just like the three B's in sorority recruitment, the JMSC danced around the elephant in the room because it could lead to trouble. Instead, they focused on whether or not David improperly communicated with the victims in the Bo and Turner case. Again, we're going to play this entire hearing for premium members to chat live with us on Thursday at noon because it is really important to watch how these powerful people running our government
Starting point is 00:59:01 actually operate. It's important to note that in 24 years of transcripts and reports from the JMSC hearings that we went through, David Miller appears to be the very first candidate where a member of the JMSC dissented on his nomination. And not just one member, but two members did that. Neither Pete Strom nor Representative Kasky would sign off on Miller's candidacy, and yet he made it through anyway.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And that's interesting, because it makes us wonder what the JMSE was up to here. This is also, like we said, the first year where they've made recordings of the hearing's public. So again, what are they up to? They've come under so much well-deserved fire over the past year, so this could be their effort to appear more transparent, which would be great if what we're seeing is genuine and not just an effort to get critics off their backs. Far too many legislator lawyers continue to deny that there's even a problem, and far too many lawyers, like this judicial election system
Starting point is 01:00:05 insisting that any other method would be worse and more open to corruption. The hearing itself seemed like a spectacle. It seemed like a place for JMSC members to posture and show that Miller's behavior bothered them and to express sympathy for Carl and show tolerance for Sarah's position, but also to downplay the concerns from Sarah and Carl for the benefit of the public, to minimize them as nothing more than
Starting point is 01:00:32 casualties of an unwieldy bureaucracy which had nothing to do with David Miller or his compliance with legislator lawyers. Worse than that, they seemed to not only blame Sarah's involvement for the communication issues, they paved a path to allow David Miller to do that same thing. He got to appear reasonable and sympathetic to the scholars and to Sarah Ford's cause while also shaping it into this one misunderstood case among many that solicitors just have to make tough calls on, despite how that call might disappoint victims. In the meantime, he got a scolding from the JMSC, a true scolding, he was
Starting point is 01:01:12 told, you're better than this, and told that they were very concerned about his temperament issues again. But then in their report on Miller, the complaints against him were seen as unsubstantiated. Why? Because the JMSC focused on the communication, the minutiae of it, and seemed to ignore the copious exhibits provided by Sarah. Instead, they relied on her short testimony against him and his denial of it and then dismissed it all. They wrote, quote, in conclusion, in assessing the veracity of the complaints and all the evidence before the commission,
Starting point is 01:01:49 the claims that Mr. Miller failed to communicate with the victims as required by law are baseless, unreliable, and without merit. And then they nominated him. On February 7th, the legislature is expected to vote on his candidacy. He is one of three candidates for the second circuit seat. I say expect to vote, but according to a source familiar with the situation,
Starting point is 01:02:12 it likely won't happen because legislators are holding off on voting on a date to vote. Why? Politics. Specifically about abortion. Republican legislators are reportedly trying to use the judicial reform issue, the legitimate issue, the one in which people are calling for lawyer legislators to not serve on the JMSC at a very minimum, as a Trojan horse for electing judges more in line with their thinking. As such, there is talk of them holding the vote over the JMSC's heads. To combat that, other legislators want to push the vote back until after the
Starting point is 01:02:51 filing date for their seats, so they'll know whether they'll be facing competition in their re-election campaigns. Once they know what they're up against, they're free to vote their conscience. It's just the same thing over and over again. Politicians out for themselves in their own enrichment in every possible way, while victims suffer for it. Carl and Sarah went to that hearing in good faith. They did the hard work of trying to change a system that treated them as mere nuances. Worse, they treated Carl the way they would treat a baby at a political rally, using
Starting point is 01:03:36 him as a prop so they could express their condolences and seem caring and bothered in the moment. But like Carl said about victim impact statements, the decision was already made. We were allowed to give a victims impact statement to the judge at that hearing, which I think we all know that's a joke that amounts to decisions already made before you're allowed to speak as a victim.
Starting point is 01:04:07 That's a fact. Okay. So it has about as much bearing on it as excuse me, but flying to the moon. Okay. Now, where do we go from here? Of course, we need y'all to continue to make noise and write state lawmakers in the next month to discourage them from electing Miller. And we need you to keep making noise about the Bowen Turner case. Bowen is out, and while we hope that he is rehabilitated,
Starting point is 01:04:35 we want girls in South Carolina to be warned of his violent history. But the thing is, David Miller and Bowen Turner are just symptoms of a much larger problem. A system that favors those with power, money, and connections. A system where victims don't have a shot in the dark at justice, because deals are being made ahead of time. A system where an elite few decide who the judges are
Starting point is 01:05:08 and the rest of us are just at their mercy. I noticed on Miller's application, he cited a 2014 bank robbery case, where a man who drove the getaway car was sentenced to life in prison because it was his third felony. His two other felonies happened when he was just 15 years old. And this man didn't have the luxury of hiring a state senator attorney.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Miller was proud of this case and used it as one of his five most significant litigated matters of his career. Miller decided that this case was worth fighting for and going to trial over, but not the rapes of multiple teenage girls. He didn't think they were worth fighting for. Is that really who South Carolina lawmakers want as their next judge? Is that the future we want for our justice system?
Starting point is 01:06:08 We will be watching closely. Stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. Music True sunlight is a Luna shark production created by me, Mandy Matney, and co-hosted by journalist Liz Farrell. Learn more about our mission and membership at lunasharkmedia.com. Interruptions provided by Luna and Joe Pesky.

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