Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #76 - Land of Too Many Coincidences: Pastor JP Miller and the Mysterious Death of His Alleged Paramour’s Husband...

Episode Date: November 28, 2024

Less than three years before Mica Francis’ body was found in a North Carolina swamp after her alleged suicide, there was another strange death near Solid Rock at Market Common, the Myrtle Beach church that belonged to Mica’s husband Pastor JP Miller. That’s the death of Chris Skinner, the 41-year-old quadriplegic man who was married to the woman JP was allegedly having an affair with at the time — the same woman JP has routinely been photographed with since Mica’s death in April. Chris was found in his wheelchair at the bottom of his neighborhood pool. Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell take a look at Chris’ inspiring story of determination and hope — at who he was BEFORE he entered into JP’s ecosystem in 2018. They also take a deeper look into his death, the ensuing investigation and the strange coincidences and inconsistencies that exist between his and Mica’s cases.  Was Chris at the pool this morning because he was meeting someone to play chess? Or did he go there because he had lost hope? Chris’ wife Suzie told police that he wasn’t suicidal and she later referred to his death as having been a result of getting too close to the edge of the pool. But that’s not what surveillance footage shows. And what role did JP’s alleged relationship with Suzie play in Chris’ death and Mica’s desire to divorce JP?  JP and Suzie have reportedly denied having an affair. And JP has denied any and all allegations related to Mica’s death and her allegations of coercive control abuse during their marriage.  Also on the show, alleged Alex Murdaugh co-conspirator Russell Laffitte is out of prison and home for the holidays and what will it take for courts to take women seriously when they ask for restraining orders against the men they fear? Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ Premium Episode Resources COJ #107 with Amanda Knox Luna Shark Merch Website Russell Laffitte Release and Bond Order - Premium File “John-Paul Miller fights back against Myrtle Beach area protesters.” - The Sun News Chris Skinner Drowning Incident Report - Premium File “Police at Pool where Chris Skinner Passed” YouTube Video Allison Williams Affidavit - Premium File Chris and Suzie Skinner share love story ADAPTIVE SURF PROJECT Myrtle Beach community comes together to help local veteran Back on Track: Chris Skinner's Surprise Gift Chris Skinner Mini-sode - Premium Episode Mica’s List & Mica’s Law Chris Skinner Probate File - Premium File Luna Shark Premium today at Lunashark.Supercast.com. Premium Members also get access to searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on lunasharkmedia.com all in one place. CLICK HERE to learn more: https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE. If you are in crisis, please call, text or chat with the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988, or contact the Crisis Text Line by texting TALK to 741741. What We're Buying... Eric Bland's New Book!!! - Mandy's Book in Paperback!! - Marcia Clark's New Book - Amanda Knox's New Book - Tamron Hall's New Book - Peloton - onepeloton.com Find your push. Find your power with Peloton at onepeloton.com. Here's a link to some of our favorite things: https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn And a special thank you to our other amazing sponsors: Microdose.com, PELOTON, and VUORI. Use promo code "MANDY" for a special offer! *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email [e-mail] and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: TrueSunlight.com facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/ Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod Twitter.com/mandymatney Twitter.com/elizfarrell youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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My name is Mandi Matney. This is True Sunlight, a podcast exposing crime and corruption previously known as the Murdoch Murders Podcast. True Sunlight is a Lunashark production written with journalist Liz Farrell. Hello and Happy Thanksgiving! My gosh, I feel so grateful this Thanksgiving. First of all, this is the fourth time I am telling y'all Happy Thanksgiving on this podcast. And that in itself is a big deal.

I was thinking back to Thanksgiving of 2021, our first Thanksgiving with a podcast. Three years ago, we were grateful that Elick Murdoch was in jail after he had been charged with dozens of financial crimes for stealing millions of dollars from his vulnerable client's death settlement funds. Three thanksgivings ago, Elick Murdoch had not yet been charged with the murders of Maggie

and Paul Murdoch. Three thanksgivings ago, we had just signed our first big ad deal at Luna Shark, promising to produce about 50 episodes in 2022. And because of that, we were able to bring on co-host and journalist Liz Farrell to the Murdoch Murders podcast. The reality hadn't hit me at all that I had made a career for myself with this podcasting thing. Back then, I was listening to way too many critics who convinced me that I was just a one-hit wonder. And the thought of promising to publish 50 episodes throughout 2022 felt daunting and almost impossible. For a good portion of 2022, I still viewed podcasting as a

temporary gig and I assumed I would go back to being a regular old local journalist sometime after the trial. Fast forward three thanksgivings and more than 300 episodes later, here we are. 300 episodes later, here we are, grateful to be able to continue our mission all these years later, to expose the truth wherever it leads, be a voice to the victims and get the story straight. Once again, I want to say thank you to the listeners, especially to y'all who have been listening since the very beginning and especially to the Lunashark Premium members, whose emotional and financial support have kept us going in good times and in bad.

As we plan to cover more cases in 2025, I just wanna say thank you from all of us at Lunashark. And speaking of Lunashark, we had a dream guest on Cup of Justice this week. The Amanda Knox. Few people understand the implications of an unjust system, the unfairness of the sexist media machine, and how to navigate trauma quite like Amanda Knox. There is so much to learn from Amanda's story, including her

amazing ability to maintain a positive outlook despite how cruel the world has been to her. Here I want to play my favorite clip from the show. How would you describe to somebody how you were able to accept the world as it is and extend that compassion at the same time? Like how do you describe able to accept the world as it is and extend that compassion at the same time. How do you describe that to somebody? Great question. And I think that the problem is the word accept. Because I feel like when people hear the word accept,

what they hear is tolerate and sort of allow it to, just like when people hear the word, and this is actually a really interesting thing that happened between me and my mom when I was in prison. So like, after I was convicted, I had this sort of existential crisis, and I realized like, oh my God, I'm not just living somebody else's life by mistake.

I am like in prison and this is my life, and it's not fair and it's sad, and I have to accept that. And when I tried to talk to my mom about this, like what she interpreted that to mean was that I was depressed and that I was giving up. And that was not true. What it meant in a practical sense was that I was getting up in the morning and I was living my life. I was taking responsibility for how I was going to interact in the world, acknowledging my circumstances. I feel like acknowledge is the better word than accept because I feel like once you accept reality as it is, you can actually be a more effective agent of change.

Because if you are living in this mental state where you are just looking at how the world is different than the way it should be, and you have this vision of the way the world should be and you are focused on that, you are not actually engaging with the world as it is. And so you have this, I think one, it causes you a lot of unnecessary suffering.

So I think one of the things that are the silver linings of my prison experience is I could not afford to suffer more than I was already suffering. And so I was like, I am not going to make myself suffer more just because of like internal things in my mind. I'm not going to make myself suffer more just because of like internal things in my mind. I'm not going to torture myself imagining the life that I want to be living. I am instead going to look directly at the life that I have

and say, how can I make this life worth living? Okay, how can I make my situation better with the acknowledgement that I actually physically can't open my door. I can't. Like that is not within my realm of possibility but what is. And I think that that is the difference is acknowledging what is allows you to more effectively engage with what is and gives you the possibility to find opportunities within those limitations that you wouldn't otherwise

see if you were so focused on what should be. So that's how I would talk about bringing stoicism but also like a sort of Zen Buddhist attitude into this equation is like you just sit and try to see clearly what is in front of you. And seeing clearly requires that you acknowledge uncomfortable truths, and then you acknowledge what is within your capacity to change versus not. And then you make your best choices from there. Episode 107 of Cup of Justice is intriguing,

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own damn fault. Last Thursday, Judge Richard Gergel held a telephone conference to talk about the terms of Russell's release. He issued an order later that same day directing the prison to let Russell go and ordering Russell to go straight home. Judge Gergel set Russell's bond at $500,000, requiring a deposit of just $25,000.

According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, Russell is being tracked by an ankle monitor. As for whether his state bond and his state ankle monitor were reinstated as well, we're still waiting to hear an answer on that. Russell was released Friday from Coleman Federal Prison in Central Florida. Multiple sources are telling us

that Judge Gergel is hoping to put Russell on the docket for the end of March. Friday from Coleman Federal Prison in Central Florida. Multiple sources are telling us that Judge Gergel is hoping to put Russell on the docket for the end of March. So, reunion time. Our second update today is about JP Miller. Last week, the Myrtle Beach Sun News ran a story revealing that JP had filed a number of restraining orders against people in the Justice for Micah movement, also known as the Protesters. According to the report, JP believes that the Protesters have been harassing and stalking him. We've told you about the stack of police reports

that JP has created complaining about the Protesters, including one from the time when JP told police he was being chased by a woman with a gun who turned out to be a man with no gun. Then there was the time one of JP's apparently loyal church members was arrested after turning a water sprinkler on the protesters. And who can forget that glorious day earlier this month when JP was arrested for third degree assault and battery of a protestor.

The Sun News talked with JP's attorney Russell B. Long, who told them that JP has been, quote, forced to hide from the general public due to, and try not to choke on your mashed potatoes when I say this next part, due to a lack of help from the Myrtle Beach Police Department. A lack of help from the department that he has treated as his own personal security firm and who, frankly, acted that way until the FBI came into town with two dozen agents and showed them how to treat someone whose wife allegedly killed herself after multiple pleas for help from the police to get him to stop stalking and harassing her. Again, JP denies all allegations of abusing Micah and basically all allegations of anything

ever. Anyway, according to this latest news report, JP's attorney confirmed to the paper that two of the unknown number of restraining orders that JP has filed against protesters were granted by judges. This is a good time to remind you all that when Micah asked the court for a restraining order against JP about a month or so before her death, she walked out of that courtroom without one. JP has a history of stalking and harassment allegations against him starting with his first wife. And Micah had a list of instances in which JP had been mentally torturing her, according to reports. And yet the court was like, nope, not for you. But for JP, whose

chief complaint is that he doesn't like that people are continuing to call him out? Sure, here's two. To be clear, no one should be stalked or harassed or be made to feel unsafe in their homes or workplaces or when they're driving around town. So I am not saying that those restraining orders were not warranted. I haven't seen what evidence JP presented to the court, but it is a glaring reminder that when women seek help from the court system to protect them from a man, the standard seems to be much higher in granting that restraining order. Now, Micah and JP did not have kids together. So, in our opinions, it is irrational that the court would require more than a woman simply saying, I want this man to legally stay away from me.

Tell him to leave me alone. There are far more examples in this world of men hurting women in relationships than there are of pastors being harmed by peaceful protesters. It is time for the court to recognize that fact. When a woman takes the time out of her life to seek help

from institutions that generally leave that woman feeling even more helpless and dejected, then pay attention. She's saying, this is how bad that situation is. I'm willing to come here and fight for it. Help her before she is hurt. Okay, today we want to talk about the September 2021 death of Chris Skinner, the quadriplegic man who was married to Susie Skinner, the woman rumored to be Pastor J.P. Miller's longtime paramour. According to friends of Micah Francis, it was J.P.'s affair with Susie that factored in heavily to Micah's decision to file for divorce in October of 2023. Micah even cited JP's unfaithfulness as grounds for the divorce, which appears to have been something that

upset him greatly. Now, y'all know how strange this case has been from top to bottom. There are days when we are seriously shocked about how much JP Miller makes Elick Murdoch look like he committed his crimes in a tuxedo while reading literature. Because where Elick was unpredictably predictable, J.P. has just been plain unpredictable and all over the place. There's always some new low in the Miller case. The world of J.P. Miller is dark and twisted, and it constantly challenges our understanding of the word coincidence.

It's been three weeks since more than 20 FBI agents raided J.P. Miller's house in Myrtle Beach, and the internet is still buzzing about theories for why they were there and what is next in the case. What we know is that the FBI is still reviewing evidence and it will likely be a while, possibly several months, before we start to see major movement in their investigation. On the night of the raid, a Myrtle Beach TikToker posted a strange video to YouTube, claiming that there was police presence at the pool where Chris Skinner died. Specifically, TikTokers in the video said that the FBI

and Horry County police were at the pool, and one of them in the video said that she was, quote, crapping her pants due to excitement. The video showed the neighborhood pool at night, but you can't see a single cop, you can't see a police light, you can't see a police vehicle, etc. And yet, no one really called this guy out in the comments for being clickbait. I'm not sure why he thought the police were there that night on November 1st, but we had Beth Brayden check with both the FBI and local police and we found no evidence that

they were there that night. And yet the video is still up and no corrections have been made. And that's just the kind of media landscape that we are in with this story. Most of the people covering the Mike and Francis story are influencers, not journalists. And this makes it difficult to sort back from fiction in a case where everything seems too crazy to be real. But the story of Chris Skinner is real and complicated. And we wanna do our part to sort fact from fiction,

especially after we recently received security footage appearing to show Chris's death. So who is Chris Skinner and is his death related to Micah's? Chris Skinner was a motivational speaker and author who attended Solid Rock Church with his wife Suzie up until his mysterious death on September 6th, 2021. He was an army veteran who was left paralyzed from an accident over two decades ago, and Susie is a physical therapist. According to reports, they met shortly

after Chris's debilitating accident in 2000. Again, Chris's wife Susie allegedly has been in a relationship with JP Miller since before Kris's death, though she has reportedly denied that, according to YouTuber Robby Harvey. In the wake of Micah's mysterious death in April, rumors simultaneously flew about Kris Skinner's death. It reminded us of March 2019 when we were first investigating the death of Mallory Beach and we kept seeing posts and messages about Stephen Smith's death and Gloria Satterfield's death as well.

Per usual, we were highly skeptical of the rumors in this case until we saw JP Miller's ex-wife's affidavit, which by the way was full of shocking allegations against JP, including an accusation that he was sexually inappropriate with underage girls at the church. We think about Allison's affidavit all the time here because JP has spent a great deal of time refuting allegations against him, to the point of even filing a lawsuit against a paralegal and sending a cease and desist letter to Micah's best friend. So it's notable to us that JP has said nothing about the bombshell affidavit from his ex-wife. Why is that? He's had something

to say about everything else, it seems. Among the allegations, Allison Williams, JP's ex-wife, who shares four children with him, mentioned the strange death of Chris Skinner. Here's David. mentioned the strange death of Chris Skinner. Here's David. When I learned JP was exposing our children to yet another one of his adulterous affairs, I confronted JP and Susie and told them not to let it happen again. JP called me the day Susie's husband died in an alleged drowning incident, extremely upset, and asking me to pray, which was incredibly bizarre. Based on information and belief, just two weeks prior to this incident, Susie's husband had confronted JP and asked him to leave his wife and children

alone. It is chilling to know that the spouses of both Suzy and JP are now dead from tragic events. Okay, I'm going to repeat that. It is chilling to know that the spouses of both Suzy and JP are now dead from tragic events. What are the odds of that? What are the odds that two people who were allegedly having an affair with both lose their spouses in deaths that were sudden, mysterious, and plagued by bad police work? Police work that seems largely reliant on the accounts of this surviving spouse in both cases. Both deaths have another thing in common. Their official causes of death don't tell the full story.

In Micah's case, her death was ruled a suicide. In Chris's case, it was ruled an accident. And despite those official rulings, there are still so many things that just don't add up. We talked about Chris Skinner's death in a mini-sode in June, but since then, we have received more information that we need to share with y'all as we consider the question, should the FBI be investigating Chris Skinner's death too?

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the very strange world of J.P. Miller. Like many people in Myrtle Beach, Chris wasn't from there. He was born in Manassas, Virginia and grew up in Nags Head, North Carolina. According to a report in the Tidewater News, Chris was a quote, popular athletic college student trying to find direction for his life when around 1 a.m. on June 11th, 2000, after a night of drinking with his fraternity brothers, Chris was in a near fatal car crash. Before the crash,

Chris had been partying too much according to a 2004 feature in the Martinsville Bulletin in Virginia. So much so that his GP at Radford University dropped dramatically and he got kicked out of the school after his third semester. Because of that, his parents cut him off financially so he joined the Army National Guard for help. It's there where he says he sorted out his priorities and started attending community college. He had just been re-accepted at Radford and was about to start his summer semester when

the crash happened, according to the report. Chris, who was still struggling with his alcohol use and also with drug use, according to a 2006 report in the Roanoke Times, had been at a friend's wedding the night of the crash and planned only to stay for the ceremony and not attend the reception, but Chris's friends persuaded him to go, with the agreement that no alcohol would be consumed. And this is according to the Martinsville report. Needless to say, that agreement didn't hold. Chris started drinking and he and his friends decided to continue the party afterward at a location that was only two miles away.

According to a report in the Bristol, Harold Currier years later, Chris and his friends had opened some beers and were listening to Crash Into Me by Dave Matthews at the time. According to the Martinsville Bulletin report, Chris, who was a passenger in the car and had taken off his seatbelt to put tobacco in his mouth

and stick his head out the window only made it 750 yards. His friend who was driving was drunk and swerved to avoid hitting a deer according to news reports that quote car hit gravel and flipped two and a half times in a single car crash. He was thrown ten feet from the car and hit a ditch at 50 miles per hour. Chris was in a coma for two weeks feet from the car and hit a ditch at 50 miles per hour. Chris was in a coma for two weeks, according to the reports, and when he finally woke up, he learned that he was a quadriplegic. He spent the next four months in the hospital, according to the Richmond Times Dispatch. The driver wasn't seriously injured.

At one of his speeches in 2010, Chris told the audience, I deserve to be where I am for making the decisions I made. Chris remembered bits and pieces from the crash, including seeing his legs, which appeared sideways to him and not being able to breathe easily. He had broken his neck and right shoulder, severed his spinal cord and lost hearing in his right ear. Because of the crash, Chris only had about 60% of his lung capacity, which caused his voice to have a perpetual rasp. It's important that we clarify his injuries here though, especially given how Chris died. Chris had no ability to use his legs,

but he still had use of his biceps and some mobility in his fingers. According to a 2006 news report, Chris used a computer with speech recognition software, used buttons on his wheelchair to open doors in his house, and drove a modified van with a license plate WEELZ-7. Wheels 7. As for daily tasks, Chris required help getting dressed, washing up, and eating. He told the Richmond newspaper in 2005 that people doubted him and doubted that he could overcome his injury

to even return to college, let alone earn a series of degrees. He told them, quote, "'I was so determined to prove everyone wrong. "'I went back aggressively. "'The more time you have to sit "'and think about your situation, "'the worse it was for me.'"

Now, Chris wasn't the first member of his family to be in a drinking-related crash. When he was younger, his aunt was actually killed in a crash caused by a drunk driver. Here's David with a particularly interesting passage from a feature that was written about that. I knew the story all my life. I watched my cousin weep.

I knew what alcohol did to my family, Skinner said, but I thought it would never happen to me. Making the right decisions, he said, can make all the difference in the world. How a person's life pans out when it comes down to the littlest decisions, which Skinner jokingly compared to changing socks or brushing teeth. I believe life is like Russian roulette, Skinner said. You always have one bullet in the chamber, but there's nothing we can do about it because we can't control other people."

It kind of gives you the chills, right? After this life-changing crash, Chris returned to Radford University and remained on the Dean's List. While he earned his bachelor's degree, he began his career as a motivational speaker, traveling and sharing his story about the dangers of drinking and driving with students at colleges, high schools, and elementary schools, as well as at churches.

In other words, he didn't let his injuries stop him from living. According to news reports from back then, Chris had a busy schedule presenting his talk, which he called the ultimate learning experience. That is also the title of his book, which was published in 2004. One Tennessee newspaper described Chris' talk as a drama based on Chris' personal experience.

In the six years after the crash, he made more than 70 appearances on stage and he had spoken to around a million people. Chris told a Richmond newspaper in 2005 that at first he struggled with his new reality. Before the crash, he was over six feet tall and strapping. Afterward, he was in a wheelchair with atrophied muscles weighing nearly 70 pounds less than he had before. He was also learning the harsh truth about how society regards people with disabilities. But according to a 2012 story in the Daily Reporter, Chris was still able to find humor

in his situation, referring to himself as half man half car. After getting his degree in communications at Radford, Chris went on to earn his master's degree there in counseling and human development. He earned a second master's degree in Christian education from Dallas Theological Seminary. In addition to his motivational speaking, he also began serving as a consultant for businesses and community groups on accessibility for disabled people and he began participating in state conferences on assistive technology. He also started the Chris Skinner organization, a non-profit

dedicated to motivating kids to make responsible decisions and avoid alcohol and drugs. In 2007, Chris was awarded the National Spinal Cord Injury Association's Emerging Leader Award at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C. In 2013, he received the Courageous Man Award by the North Carolina Boys Academy in Conover, North Carolina Boys Academy in Conover, North Carolina. In January 2004, while he was still pursuing his master's degree, he got married to then Suzy Jeffress, who was a licensed physical therapist.

More specifically, she was Chris's physical therapist. More on that in a second. According to a 2006 report from the Roanoke Times, Chris said that Susie was his reason for reconnecting with his faith. Here is David reading an excerpt from that story. Susie Skinner said she fell in love with Chris Skinner's honesty and sense of humor. Quote, he likes to have fun with life, she said. Plus, I was attracted

to him. Skinner has lost 70 pounds since the crash. Muscle atrophy is largely to blame. But he also had significant digestive problems this year. Though Skinner can seem relentlessly positive, there are those times when his health is bad or the challenge he faces seems too much, and he has to use all his motivational ability on himself. Quote, sometimes, to be honest, I don't want to get out of bed. He said, that's when my faith in the Lord hits me and I feel motivated and grit my teeth. I think of it as selflessness. If I can't do it for myself, I do it for whoever

needs to come in contact with me today, whoever needs to hear my story. It's hard to hear these things without thinking about Chris' future and what that looks like when it came to Suzy and where their faith ultimately led them. In 2014, as a part of its Valentine's Day coverage and almost a year after Chris and Susie moved to the Market Commons neighborhood where Solid Rock is, the Myrtle Beach Sun News wrote about their love story. According to the paper, Chris was dating a nursing student that he had hoped to marry when he met then 25-year-old Susie. He was around 20 at the time and it was just

3 months after the crash when he was adjusting to his new body. Chris told his grandfather about his plans and his grandpa was like, whoa, make a list first. He told Chris to write out the qualities that he wanted in a woman. The next month, Chris said that he found all of those qualities in Susie. He was quoted saying, I just got hit by this force. I thought this is exactly what I want. As Susie's patient, Chris worked with her for eight weeks, two hours a day, five days a week. Here's David with an excerpt from that story. Chris said he was in a sensitive, intimate, and vulnerable situation,

and Susie was, quote, incredibly professional, as he poured his heart out during that emotional time. It also was emotional for Susie, who said she had never worked with someone so acute. They worked on strength and balance, aiming for him to get in and out of his wheelchair on his own, but they didn't reach their goal. That was a

new experience for Susie, who had had success with her other patients, but she said Chris's personality was new for her too. Quote, what was different about Chris is he is always very honest," Susie said. At some point after his therapy with Susie, Chris contracted MRSA and according to the paper Chris and his mother guilted Susie into visiting him at the hospital. But even then they didn't connect romantically. It wasn't until later in 2002, according to the paper, when Chris was hiking in the Blue Ridge Mountains and ran into Susie at an overlook.

He asked if he could give her a call. On the third anniversary of his crash, he proposed to Susie at that same overlook. In 2023, after Chris's death, a blog about them was posted on Solid Rock's website. Here's what Susie recalled about this event. Quote, there was a handicap accessible hiking trail in the mountains of Radford,

and he proposed on this overlook. Actually, now that I think about it, that was the trail we walked on our first date. I forgot about that. Six months after Chris proposed, they got married. In 2007, they had twins. At the end of the Myrtle Beach story, the reporter left readers with this thought from Chris,

quote, I used to think no one's ever going to love me and I wanted to be more normal, but now I've realized no one's normal. Before the accident, it seems like that life didn't exist, like it was like a different universe. My life is so much sweeter now. Shortly after Chris and Susie moved to Myrtle Beach, their neighbors raised $5,000 for them to pay the medical expenses on a Yorkie rescue who became Chris' service dog and was there with him when he died. In 2016, the community secured a grant to renovate Chris and Susie's home to make it handicapped accessible. That

year they had a deck built on their home with a wheelchair ramp and wheelchair friendly grass planted in their yard. Inside the house they converted all their lighting to LED so he wouldn't have to change out his light bulbs for a while and they put handles instead of knobs on cabinets so that he could open them. In a story about this that ran in the Myrtle Beach Sun, Suzy is quoted as saying, I love Chris, I love my husband. I love that he's so sacrificing like with his own comfort. He'll be in pain and he'll do whatever the kids and I want to do.

He just pushes himself through it. And so it just means a lot to me because this gives him some comfort. It gives him the ability to do things on his own and he doesn't have to work as hard. He doesn't have to call neighbors and call people and ask them to help and all that. He doesn't have to struggle as much. A few months after that story ran, the Myrtle Beach Sun ran a front page piece about the Adaptive Surf Project, which Chris was a part of. Yes, he was a surfer. In 2013, the Adaptive Surf Project raised money to create a

surfboard for Chris that included bumpers, handles, grips, and a slope that lifted Chris' chest off the board. Chris told the paper that surfing felt like a homecoming to him. Seven years after Chris' return to surfing, ESPN reporter Marty Smith, who Chris knew from Radford, along with the help of country singers Luke Bryan and Cole Swindle and Clemson coach Dabo Sweeney helped raise money for Chris to have a customized all-terrain wheelchair that allowed him to move around the beach better and without injury. That appears to be the wheelchair he was in the day he died. Marty made a video about it and posted it online. The video went viral. We're gonna play a little of that video

so you can hear Chris's voice. For those of you who have been following Micah Francis' story closely, you're going to notice something odd. He sounds a little like JP. You know, there's not a day that goes by the last 18, 19 years where I don't think back and go,

put your seatbelt on, man. I'm gonna put this in that vertical zipper of your backpack where your meds are. Did you take your afternoon meds? Yep. It was on a day just like today. I put my feet on the floor for the very, very last time. Stood up, took a shower on my own for the very last time.

Went and dressed myself for the very last time. It was a day of many last times for me. I went to a wedding of a friend of mine, and when I went to the reception I got intoxicated. Later that evening when we were driving we were going 750 yards away when the vehicle flipped and was thrown out. I made a choice not to put a seatbelt on. You know I tried to get up just like we all think we're going to do every day, you know, put our feet on the

ground and get up. I tried to move. I just couldn't move at all. Then I heard this noise, and I look over, and I saw my friend getting out on his hands and knees. And I was in a ditch, you know? And I remember when we made eye contact, it was the scariest eye contact I've ever felt in my life.

He ran to me, got down on one knee, held my head, wiped the blood out of my mouth, and said the words that no 20-year-old should ever hear at that time, and said, don't die on me, man. Now, Chris struggled. We don't want to paint the picture that everything was a lesson in positivity every day. But the biggest takeaways from the answer to the question, who was Chris Skinner are these? One, he was a man who knew how to dig deep and overcome setbacks in life.

2. His life's mission was to make young people understand that there are consequences for their actions. 3. He could move his arms and fingers. 4. He was not only comfortable in the water, he was comfortable in tidal water with waves. 5. He loved his life and he loved his wife. And six, his faith was incredibly important to him. So in 2019, they joined Solid Rock Church. That means inner JP Miller, right? Now, let's talk about the morning of September 6, 2021. Starting with the 911 call, which was made at about 8.50 a.m. according to the police

report. A neighbor who had gone to the pool for her water aerobics class made the call. I don't know the actual address, but it's on the corner of Yorkshire Parkway and Wellington Way in Evans Preserve. Yorkshire and Wellington? Yes ma'am, it's our pool. It's Evans Preserve Pool in the Evans Preserve Community and Market Commons. Okay what's going on? We have a dead body in our pool You have a dead body in your pool. Yes, ma'am. They tell me it's a male It's that he was disabled his wheelchair and all is in the pool

Okay. All right. I'm gonna Okay, all right. I'm gonna hold on. We can't know how long has he been in there? I don't know, but he's been in there sometime because when I first got here at eight o'clock, I thought it was an air tube that was, you know, deflated. I didn't go over and look.

I'm sorry. Okay, man. Just stay on the line with me I'm just talking to my fire dispatch here. Okay, I Don't even know get his wife's phone number Okay, is there is there anyone out there? Yes, we're up there. We were having water. We were going to have water aerobics. So there's like four of us here right now. So yeah, someone will be here to let them in.

Okay. Is anyone trying to get him out or? They tried. They tried to get him out, but they can't move him. Is he still in the wheelchair? He's still in his wheelchair. He could she could not move anything. According to surveillance footage, Chris fell into the pool at 7 56 a.m. So when this woman saw him at 8 50 a.m. and thought that he was a deflated pool toy, he

hadn't been there for long. According to the CAD report, police reports and dash cam footage, the first police officer arrived on that scene at 859 a.m., about nine minutes after the 911 call. We are not sure if there are two 911 calls and we only received one of them because when the officer got there, the fire department was already there and performing CPR on Chris.

Now the timeline between the reports and the videos is a little screwy and details don't always line up perfectly. The surveillance footage timestamps are an hour behind. That really threw us off. The dash cam timestamps are eight hours behind. The CAD timestamps also appear to be a few minutes off. We need to talk more about this footage

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Terms apply. Now, according to the dash cam, Susie arrived on the scene right after the ambulance did at 9.01 a.m. You can see around the corner of the intersection near the pool area, she is running, and there is a bald, barefoot man running behind her. It is not clear who he is.

According to the police report, Susie approached the officer to tell him that Chris had a living will, that he had done during a trip to Virginia, and he had a do not resuscitate order. The officer told her to go get the paperwork to show the first responders. According to the report, she left and came back and did not have a form filled out for a DNR.

It is not clear when she did that though, because according to the dashcam footage, at 9.04am, 3 minutes after Suzie got there, first responders came through with Chris on a stretcher. One of them was holding a bag-valve mask to Chris' face and appeared to be pumping it. As Chris was being loaded into the ambulance, Suzie and the bald barefoot man talked to another barefoot man who was with fire and rescue and likely one of the first responders who went into the water to rescue Chris. Though they seemed to continue to perform life-saving measures on Chris, the ambulance

didn't move for another seven minutes. When it did, it revealed that Suzie was still on the scene. Whether she went home and came back in that time isn't clear, but she was on the neighbors lawn and receiving hugs from people. Then she was gone for several minutes before returning at 9.24 am. She was holding the hand of a police officer and walking with a small group of people, including the bald, barefoot man. They rounded the corner of the intersection near the pool area and walked through the gate of the pool.

For most of that time, Suzy had her right hand in the air in the same way that people do when they're praising God. It looked strange. At this point, she was carrying a purse. At 9.39 a.m., a first responder put up police tape at the entrance of the pool area, just as JP and Micah pulled up in a maroon pickup truck, which they parked on the corner at that intersection. JP walked fast out in front of Micah, and she at times jogged a little to try to keep up with him. When they got to the police tape, they appeared to have been told to wait there. JP stood with his hands on his hips and Micah stood apart from

him a bit. At one point JP put his head in his hands. Shortly after, Susie appeared and again she put her hand up in the air in that same way she had it when she was walking earlier. When Susie came out from behind the police tape, Micah hugged her, and the three of them walked away together with Suzy in the middle. Micah continued to rub Suzy's back as they walked to JP's truck and got into it. It feels important to remind you all about this one more time. JP's ex-wife, Allison, says that at this point, she had already warned JP and Suzy to stop their alleged affair, and that two weeks prior to Chris's death, Chris himself had told JP to stay away from his family.

Another thing to remind you about, remember Micah's list? JB was not an early riser, according to Micah. He liked to morning, a man had been in the area of the pool when he saw Chris out for what is called his normal tour around the neighborhood. Chris approached the man and asked him to open the door to the pool for him because he was going to be meeting up with someone to play chess. So the man did that. He used his key card to open the gate for Chris, but didn't follow him in according to the report.

After police arrived on the scene, they notified a detective in the crime scene unit. And then they pulled the surveillance footage. According to the report, Chris had entered the pool area and gone over to the area where the chest sets were. He had his dog with him. Then Chris and the dog went around the pool. We were given a series of clips from the surveillance footage, but no video that actually shows that.

We do, however, have a video that corresponds with this description from the police. The victim then stops at a curve in the pool and then suddenly moves quickly forward and goes into the water. But what we see on the footage looks a little different, and this is important because Chris's death was ruled an accident,

meaning the chair either malfunctioned or Chris accidentally directed it into the water. We see Chris stopped at the edge of the pool in his wheelchair. His dog is by his feet. Chris slowly moves forward, perhaps a few inches. He stops for four seconds. Then he goes forward into the pool. The video then shows his dog sniffing the pine mulch near where Chris just had been.

The dog sees Chris go into the pool and goes to the edge and sort of looks over. According to the police report, Chris lifted his head a few times after falling in the water. We can't see that because the video is redacted with a black box over Chris once he's in the pool. A clip from 5 or 6 minutes after this shows Chris' dog wandering and sniffing around the pool area. Now, we took a look in Chris' probate file and like Suzie said, he did have a will that was drawn up in Radford, Virginia, but it doesn't appear to be from a recent trip. It was on March 28th, 2007, which would be right before his twins were due to be born. And it doesn't appear to be a living will, as the officer said Suzie told him it was. And there's no part of it that addresses what to do if Chris were to need resuscitation or intubation. This doesn't mean that a DNR or DNI don't

exist. If they do, they're not part of this probate file. Chris made Susie the executor of his estate and the court approved her appointment as personal representative. In an inventory of his assets, Susie listed that Chris had no assets apart from 50% ownership of a Toyota Sienna minivan worth about $25,000. The two owned their home jointly, but Susie listed Chris's real estate holdings as $0. This could be because the deed passed ownership of the home onto the surviving spouse if the other died.

The only debts listed in Chris's probate file are a $623 credit card bill and his cremation costs of $3,428, which appears to have been paid by his stepfather, Michael Henson. If there was an insurance policy on Chris, it was not listed. Okay, so let's talk about this. Chris's death was ruled an accident by the Horry County Coroner. Police appeared to close their investigation into the incident on September 7, 2021, just one day after Chris's death. The investigation was quick, but that is standard

considering that a video pretty much ruled out the possibility of this being criminal. After reviewing the video, we can now definitely say that no one pushed Chris Skinner in the pool. But what if something else was going on? This past September, the Statute of Limitation ran out on Susie's ability to sue the manufacturer of the wheelchair company and no claim was filed that we can find. This either means that she did not suspect the wheelchair was at all at fault, couldn't prove it, or possibly she just didn't

want to take on the fight. Let's just say the wheelchair wasn't at fault, then that means if this was an accident that Chris didn't mean to drive himself into the pool, right? It is odd that Chris, according to the police report, went to the area where the chessboards were and then drove to the curve of the pool, where we can see him, stopped before moving forward a few inches and then stopping for a few seconds and then plunging into the water. The controller to Chris's wheelchair, the thing that moved him around, was on his left arm rest. It is a long lever that stands straight up, almost like a large joystick from an old arcade

game. If the chair did not malfunction, then it means this lever was likely pressed forward. Journalist Beth Braden did some digging into this chair and it appears that this wheelchair was equipped with an attendant controller or a remote control option. But it's hard to tell for sure. When we watch the surveillance footage, you can appear to see, although it is blurry, what looks like Chris moving the joystick forward. So the question becomes, did he mean to?

Because guess what? Remember the part where Chris told the guy who opened the gate for him that he was meeting someone to play chess? The police report says that they saw footage of Chris go over in that area, but that footage was not given to us in our FOIA request with the rest of the clips. The report doesn't mention that anyone else was in the pool area at the time of Chris' death. There is no mention of anyone trying to track down the person who Chris was supposedly there

to play chess with. Since Chris' death and the spotlight brought on by Micah's death, when rumors about Chris' death and Susie's relationship with JP had been flying around, there doesn't appear to be anyone who has come forward to say it was me, he was supposed to meet me on that day. Because without that person, it looks like there was never a chess player, which would mean that Chris lied about the reason that he was there. And if he lied about the reason why he was there,

are we to believe that he then had the misfortune of falling into the water by accident? In 2023, Solid Rock Ministries posted a blog about Suzy on its website. Here's David with two excerpts. Quote, when the couple learned they were having twins from in vitro fertilization, Chris was scared to be a dad

when he couldn't even hold a pencil, end quote. He couldn't hold a pencil, but he could hold chess pieces. Huh. Perhaps his mobility improved, or maybe he called out his moves and the opposing player moved the pieces for him. Chris always went to the pool and walked his dog. Susie says if someone was around, they would let him into the gate of the pool and he would go in there all the time. That day, I guess when he was driving, his wheelchair, nobody was in there

and he got too close to the edge and fell in. A neighbor had come to get me and she said, you have to get to the pool right away and I just had that instinct. I just knew. Notice a few things. First, she doesn't mention that he used to go there to play chess. Second, she confirms that nobody was there. Third, she says Chris got too close to the edge and fell in, which we know isn't true because the surveillance footage shows him several feet from the edge before he moves the joystick forward to fall in. Then there's this. This is JP's interview with TikTok user flowdaddy from this past summer. JP- You know, the low is you want to end your life. And she went super high

and super low many, many times over the years. And it was a struggle, almost a constant struggle, but we got through it. We got through it. And the schizophrenia is where she would hear voices or talk to people that were not there. She'd play chess with people that were not there without a chessboard. Reminder, there's nothing in the medical records that were given to us through an intermediary of JP's that says that Micah had schizophrenia. Nothing. Also, chess you say? Chess? It's time to talk about JP.

In her solid rock story, Suzie said that three weeks after Chris' death, she was determined to reclaim the pool because of the happy memories her family shared there. She also said this, This wasn't a place where Chris died. This was a place where Chris saw Jesus' face for the first time. Instead of being a place of death, it felt like this sacred, holy place because Chris was paralyzed for 21 years before he passed away. He suffered a ton of pain all the time and he had wounds and infections and lots of medical issues. So he longed for heaven and getting a new body, not in a weird way but in a

healthy way. So to think about him finally getting to see Jesus face to face was a beautiful picture in my head and I realized that Jesus is always with us. He was with Chris in that water and I could see Chris going down into the pool and then Jesus just scooping him up and taking him to heaven. Let's talk about that, this notion of Chris reaching heaven and being returned to his 6 foot 8 inch body that could walk and hear and breathe. According to the police reports, Suzie said that Chris was not suicidal at the time of his death.

Now, if JP's ex-wife's affidavit is true, and again, it's sworn testimony, so it's meant to be true, then Chris confronted JP about the alleged affair with Suzie two weeks before his death. JP, a tall, able-bodied man of God, their pastor, their faith leader. Here's an excerpt from JP's sermon the day before Chris died. Whenever you have a hard time figuring out who you are, it's because a lot of times you've been in a manipulative relationship in the past. You've been abused. I can't

tell you how many people in this church have been abused by somebody that was supposed to love them and protect them. And it causes them to hold back who God made them to be. And they feel like, and I gave this analogy last week, you feel like you're drowning. And that person, every time you come up for air, they're pushing you back down underwater. And you don't even know who you are. Whoa.

So the date before Chris Skinner mysteriously drowned in a pool, he likely attended this church service where he heard JP preach about accepting your destiny and not to fight God's will. Oddly, during that sermon, which was less than 24 hours before Chris entered the pool, JP used an analogy of drowning and he mentioned the power of manipulative relationships over people. The following Sunday, after Chris's death, J.P. Miller preached at Chris Skinner's memorial service. Now, think of this. If what Allison Williams says is true, and by the way, JP has not refuted that affidavit

to our knowledge, then Chris confronted JP about his alleged affair with his wife just two weeks before his death and just three weeks before this funeral. If what Allison Williams says is true, then that would mean Chris Skinner was probably crushed by this betrayal, to find out that the man who he looked to

for spiritual guidance and the man he called a friend was having an affair with the love of his life. And now, after Chris's mysterious death in a pool, this man who allegedly betrayed him to that degree was then speaking at his funeral. The audacity of J.P. Miller. Listen to this man who was oddly giddy after Chris's death. This is JP at Chris Skinner's funeral. Exciting. I was Chris's pastor. To preach a funeral in which I don't have to lie is probably my first funeral where I get to say all the truthful stuff and that's because we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Chris was a child of God, is a

child of God, faithful husband, wonderful father, great friend, brother. Chris is strong, Chris is energetic, Chris always has ideas, he's an encourager, he's a motivator. One thing Chris is not, he is not in a wheelchair anymore. One time, one time during service, I was on the piano and we're having praise and worship and the lights, you know, going and everything. And I see Chris at the back in his wheelchair and his wheelchair was starting to act up. It was like going forward and back and forward and back and I thought, oh no, what's happening? So one of our ushers went over to him and Bob went to him and said, Chris, what's wrong with your wheelchair?

Okay. Chris said, I'm dancing. And, but now he's really dancing, not in the wheelchair, he's really dancing. He's probably dancing like a white guy with no rhythm, but he's dancing nonetheless. So that's cool. I remember being at Chris's house a while back and he always had a sense of humor

and I was noticing his tennis shoes and I'm a shoe kind of guy and I said, man, you got some nice tennis shoes. These things look brand new. And he chuckled. He said, well, one of the blessings I've had these for years, one of the blessings is my shoes never wear out and I didn't get it at first. Like five minutes later, I laughed and it was great. So anyway, Chris is an amazing man and we're honored to be here today to celebrate his life. Another thing Chris is not, Chris is not in pain anymore. And

that's because Revelation 21 says the streets are pure gold. God will wipe away all tears and there will be no more death, no more crying, and no more what? No more pain. No more pain. Let me add to that. There'll be no more taxes. J.P. Miller did what J.P. Miller does best. He danced on the grave of a person who didn't deserve it. He publicly mocked a person he allegedly betrayed when that person could no longer swing back. He was, in the words of Taylor Allison Swift, so casually cruel in the name of being honest.

And on that same day, JP continued on with his Manifest Destiny series of sermons and listened to this part where he talks about accepting your fate as God's will. You have to be the person God made you to be. You have to be you. There's no better version of you than you. An old Jewish rabbi who's passed away, his name was Zuzka. And on Zuzka's deathbed, his followers gathered around him and they said, Zuzka, what is God gonna ask you

when you get to heaven? And on his deathbed, he sat up and he said, I'll tell you what God is not going to ask me. God is not going to ask me, why were you not more like Abraham? He's not gonna ask me, why weren't you more like Isaac? He won't even ask me, why were you not more like Jesus? He will ask me, why were you not Zuzka?

Why were you not 100% totally and completely you? And throughout life, I've been talking to you about how easy it is for other people to manipulate our personality. The truth is, we manipulate ourselves. We will change ourselves just to receive affirmation from somebody we admire. You have to be the person that God made you to be. Which, okay, sure, great advice. There's something all of us can take away from that advice. But think about that in the context

of a man who lost almost complete control over his body, who then devoted his life to helping others and then had the audacity to believe he could have a life as a man, as a husband, as a father, as a man who could no longer stand six foot eight inches tall but who accepted that reality and pushed against the confines of it. And then think about that man being scared that he was about to lose everything he fought that uphill battle for. We don't know why Chris Skinner went into that pool three years ago. We do, however, know the context. After listening to hours of JP's sermons, reading through Micah's list over and over, looking through text messages from JP to various people and going through stacks of police reports and medical records and talking to sources who knew JP Miller and knew about his

relationships and his contradictions and his manipulations and reading and re-reading court records and affidavits and divorce filings and listening to the interviews JP has given and watching his own social media posts, we know the context. The context is JP Miller. The context is J.P. Miller. J.P. is the context. J.P. is a man who scandalized his flock when it came out that he, a married man, had been romancing his children's babysitter, a young married woman who he had known

and allegedly groomed since she was just 15 years old. He was a man who defied the church's board and stayed on as head pastor at his own church. He was a man who erratically applied rules to his flock, forbidding some women like Micah's sister from appearing on stage as a part of the worship team because she wasn't married to the man that she lived with. And telling some church members that they could only side hug people of the opposite sex and requiring some church members to include a person, spouse in any text messaging. Did JP apply those same rules to himself when

interacting with Chris Skinner's wife? It's a question worth asking. JP is a man who appeared to use his church like it was his own personal sexual playground. And he used his sermons to get what he wanted. To get the people around him to see things the way that he wanted them to see things, to tell them who they are and who they should be and what they should tolerate. Remember, JP is the one that said, a man with a broken body is made whole in heaven. JP is the one that said, a man who accepts how God made him will accept what comes with

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