Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #88 - Accused Killer Lee Gilley’s Shocking ‘Innocence Website’ + Could Bowen Turner Get Released Next Week? + More JP Miller Chaos

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Investigative journalists — Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell have encountered one of the strangest things they’ve ever seen from a murder suspect who hasn’t even been arraigned yet … a campaig...n website!  Last week a listener sent in a tip about former South Carolina resident Lee Gilley, who is facing a Capital Murder charge in Houston, Texas, in the October 2024 death of his wife, Christa Bauer and their unborn child. A website had been published about Lee and his life as an apparently flawless human being incapable of murder. It’s yet another brazen move from an entitled good ole boy who thinks the normal procedures of the justice system don’t apply to him.  Also on the show, a follow-up on the YouTube creator who is being sued by JP Miller. Plus, updates on Bowen Turner’s alleged parole violations and Buster Murdaugh’s defamation case. Plus, we'll update you on the latest in the Peter J. Strauss case who's sentencing is set for 2pm on February 20th in Charleston.  Let's dive in... 🥽🦈  Resources “John-Paul Miller closed his Myrtle Beach church last fall. The property just sold for $2.15M.” - Feb 17, 2025 Referenced Past Episodes: TSP 29, 38, 44, & 86  Premium Documents: Bowen Turner’s Arrest Warrant - Feb 11, 2025 Bowen Turner Hearing Transcript - Sept 25, 2024 Buster Murdaugh - Order to Sever & Remand - Feb 19, 2025 Jan Lancaster Restraining Order Appeal - Nov 12, 2024 Melissa Mancari Defamation Lawsuit - Sept 17, 2024 Melissa Mancari Motion to Dismiss - Feb 14, 2025 Lee Gilley Charging Instrument + Complaint - Oct 11, 2024 Stay Tuned, Stay Pesky and Stay in the Sunlight...☀️ If you are in crisis, please call, text or chat with the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988, or contact the Crisis Text Line by texting TALK to 741741. Premium Members also get access to ad-free listening, searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on lunasharkmedia.com all in one place. CLICK HERE to learn more: https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE. Check out our LUNASHARK Merch 👕 What We're Buying... Chewy - chewy.com/mandy - Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy. And right now you can save $20 on your first order and get free shipping by going to chewy.com/mandy. Here's a link to some of our favorite things: https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email info@lunasharkmedia.com and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** For current & accurate updates: bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com | bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com TrueSunlight.com facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/ Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod Twitter.com/mandymatney Twitter.com/elizfarrell youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:28 But I'm tired of being shocked by what we have seen recently between Bowen Turner, Lee Gillie, JP Miller, and even a YouTuber covering Micah's case. All I know is how important it is to keep calling them out every step of the way. My name is Mandi Matney. This is True Sunlight, a podcast exposing crime and corruption previously known as the Murdoch Murders Podcast. True Sunlight is a Luna Shark production written with journalist Liz Farrell. Whew, it's been another week, and we have a few updates before we get started. The first is a quick one about J.P. Miller.
Starting point is 00:01:16 We will talk more about all of this on a future episode, but on February 14th, Solid Rock Ministries sold the church building at 803 Howard Avenue in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina to Salem Woods Holdings for $2.1 million. Trisha Ross, who is now identified as the vice president of Solid Rock Ministries, signed off on the deal. A Post and Courier article from earlier this week identified the developer behind the purchase as Gaither Thompson and quoted him as saying, "'We bought it for a reason, and that reason might change.'"
Starting point is 00:01:53 Thompson did tell the Post and Courier that he is not planning to open up a church. Salem Woods Holding is the same company that originally sold Solid Rock, the two parcels of land on the Highway 17 bypass, for $610,000 in August 2023. Those two parcels were transferred to another JP Associated Churchy business, Living Water at Market Common, in December 2024. So yeah, it seems like JP has come into some sudden money. But also, we're going to dive deeper in this because it's JP and we know better.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Also, little fact, churches don't pay capital gains taxes. So there's that too. Now let's talk about the latest with Rice Accused Rapist Bowen Turner. As you know from our episode last week, Bowen was arrested again last Tuesday after he was caught day drinking at a municipal golf course in what appears to have been a pretty clear violation of his parole agreement, which prohibited him from drinking any alcohol.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Obviously not a single person was shocked by that news because we all knew it was coming. The shocking part was that after his arrest, single person was shocked by that news because we all knew it was coming. The shocking part was that after his arrest, we learned that just a week earlier, Bowen had tested positive for having THC in his system. And yet, he was still a free man, bold enough to go out drinking on a golf course on a Tuesday. Yeah, we can't wrap our minds around that one either. Researcher and reporter Beth Braden reached out
Starting point is 00:03:29 to the South Carolina Department of Corrections, AKA SEDC, to find out why Bowen wasn't arrested after testing positive for THC. And in response, the SEDC spokesperson said, quote, Turner's GPS monitoring was extended in response to his failed drug screen. Additionally, he was re-referred to the substance abuse treatment
Starting point is 00:03:53 as a condition of his supervision. The GPS monitoring was not ordered by the court. It was added by SEDC as a special condition of supervision. End quote. Yes, y'all. added by SEDC as a special condition of supervision." Yes, y'all, this story gets even more un-freaking-believable. The system gave this good old boy another GPS monitor, you know, because he has such a great history
Starting point is 00:04:18 with those in the past, when he failed a drug test while he was being monitored under the quote unquote, intensive supervision program at SEDC. I cannot take the absurdity of that sentence. And I cannot believe that an SEDC spokesperson decided to add that the GPS was not court ordered. They ordered it, like they deserve a gold star for giving a good old boy another
Starting point is 00:04:46 chance by providing a seemingly useless monitoring tool, which he had previously violated more than 60 times and got away with it because no one in the state was paying attention. So why would Bowen Turner give a good old boy damn about being on an ankle monitor after knowing that he can get away with doing pretty much whatever he wants with or without a monitor? So here is where it gets worse. We looked back on SEDC's terms and conditions of Bowen's release, and upon reading it for the second time, knowing what we know now, I am flabbergasted at the deference SEDC is still giving Bowen Turner.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Especially given all of the times that he has proven to be incapable of following the law and all of the times he has allegedly endangered other people. First, I want to point out, under the conditions of supervision signed by Turner just before his 2024 release, it says, quote, "...violation of any of these conditions will result in immediate disciplinary action and, maybe, cause for revocation of parole." It listed 12 conditions, most of which are basic requests of being a functioning member of society. He agreed to pursue lawful employment or further his education.
Starting point is 00:06:13 He agreed to respect SEDC's parole officer. He agreed to not break the law. Number 5 on this list is where we have problems. I'll have David read this part. I shall not use controlled substances except when properly prescribed by a licensed physician, not consume alcoholic beverages to excess, nor enter establishments whose primary business is the sale and drinking of alcoholic beverages. Further, I shall submit to testing for drugs and alcohol when required and agree that the test result may be used as evidence of violating my parole requirements. Okay, so I'm not sure how we didn't catch this before or more importantly, why SEDC didn't think to include
Starting point is 00:07:13 a more serious no tolerance for alcohol and drug use clause considering the fact that the last time he agreed to this pretty much exact same legal document a year prior, he was caught drinking and driving in a single car crash months later that could have easily killed a person. And considering the fact that every incident Bowen has been involved in, has involved alcohol. And considering that SEDC knew this, because they even gave him a taxpayer-funded shot
Starting point is 00:07:46 before his release to ease his alcohol dependence. One would think these conditions would include a simple clause, something like, quote, consumption of any alcohol or drugs can result in immediate parole revocation. But no. SEDC chose wishy-washy language that only helps Bowen and leaves entirely too much wiggle room
Starting point is 00:08:13 for a fancy attorney to debate into exhaustion and possibly could get him released next week. On February 28th, Bowen will appear in court for an administrative hearing at Orangeburg County Detention Center to determine whether or not he violated parole, and that board will send a recommendation for his sentencing. I'm not gonna lie, I'm worried about this. Especially after SEDC's baffling response to the situation and after reading the conditions of his parole
Starting point is 00:08:45 that offered Bowen so much protection, protection that he did not deserve. I hope the board sees the entirety of this case dating back to 2018 and I hope that they understand how much is on the line here. I hope they understand that I'm worried, really worried, about what happens if he is released." Would he try to retaliate against the employees at Hillcrest Golf Course? Or against Sarah Ford? Or Dallas Stallers family? Or us? We don't know what Bowen is capable of, but we know he is incapable of following the law, and
Starting point is 00:09:27 we are hoping that the board next week sees this and sees the deeply disturbing pattern in Bowen's behavior. And finally, we hope that SEDC chooses public safety over the good old boys by recommending the max sentence for Bowen Turner, which we are told could be two or more years. We will be keeping a close eye on this situation and continuing to make noise about it on social media because it matters. Please join us on social media by raising your concerns about the possibility of Bowen Turner being released.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Please call on other South Carolina local reporters to write about this story because we need everyone to know how many people are watching this story as the board decides what happens to Bowen next week. In the meantime, we forgot to remind y'all last week about what went down at Bowen's parole hearing in September and We think this is important because at Bowen's hearing next week We hope the court considers his total lack of credibility
Starting point is 00:10:32 and we hope that the judge at his future parole hearing takes this into consideration too because Words mean next to nothing to mr. Turner Check this out according to the the court reporter's transcript, Bowen's attorney said the following about Bowen at that parole hearing, quote, In his time in prison, he has taken it very seriously, taking advantage of many programs. He's completed the ATU program, the alcohol and addiction treatment program that they have there. And in my conversations with Mr. Turner, he has an insight into the root cause of these legal problems like I have never seen before.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And part of that has to do with the fact that he's 21. And we all know that the prefrontal cortex in men closes about that time. He has finally grown up and taken his addiction very seriously. This was an alcohol-fueled incident. Obviously, the DUI and the resisting arrest were alcohol-related.
Starting point is 00:11:28 He really understands and is able to articulate the way in which his mental health challenges interact with his alcohol abuse. And in fact, he consented to a shot that they offer at the Department of Corrections so that when he is paroled and he has made that parole, he will leave at the end of October. When he is paroled and he has made that parole, he will leave at the end of October. When he is paroled, he'll receive that shot so that he will not drink.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Remember the calls we played for you last week between Bowen and his parents. So right after his attorney is making this argument for him on his behalf, Bowen was on the phone talking to his father about going to Hillcrest golf course on the day he's released and then denying it when his father said, look, I'm not dumb. I know you go to the golf course alone to drink. Now I'm sure some people would roll their eyes at us pointing out this disconnect like, yeah, so tell me more about a prisoner lying to get out of prison. Our point is that it's harder to lie when you know people will hold you to the truth. And guys like Bowen grew up learning that all they had to do is pay lip service to something because no matter what anyone in his life said about this being
Starting point is 00:12:34 the last chance ever, it never ever was. Speaking of spoiled criminals seeking another chance, disbarred Hilton Head Island attorney Peter J. Strauss, who we've talked about in episodes 29, 38, and 44, among others, is scheduled to finally be sentenced this afternoon. But of course, nothing is simple and his attorney tried some more shenanigans to delay Peter's day in court again. On Tuesday, Peter's attorney filed a motion for continuance for another month,
Starting point is 00:13:09 claiming that the government had just informed them that there are two more victims seeking restitution from Peter on his single charge of aiding and abetting removal of property to prevent seizure. Peter pleaded guilty a year ago after being accused of helping former clients who are now serving time for a billion dollar Ponzi scheme hide money from the FBI. Peter's
Starting point is 00:13:33 name is one that has come up behind the scenes in both the Murdoch investigation and the investigation into the 2008 disappearance of John and Elizabeth Calvert on Hilton Head. There's a lot to discuss here when it comes to Peter's case So we'll come back to this in a future episode Bottom line judge Richard Gergel denied Peter's motion But is allowing a delay of up to 90 days in determining Peter's restitution Lunashark media will be at the Charleston Federal Courthouse to cover the sentencing hearing, so stay tuned. Okay, so as you all know, Bowen's arrest meant that we had to tear up last week's episode at the very last minute to report on that bit of breaking news, which even though we are really
Starting point is 00:14:18 proud of how last week's episode came together, it did mean we had to put off sharing our follow-up reporting on Jan Lancaster, who is one of the content creators being sued by JP Miller. As you know, since early January, JP and his team of gremlins have filed dozens of lawsuits against protesters and content creators. We'll talk more about those cases at the end of the episode. One last quick update. Late on Wednesday, federal judge Richard Gergel published an order in Buster Murdoch's defamation
Starting point is 00:14:51 case that changes the game of Buster's lawsuit because he went from having one case to now two. Originally, Buster had filed his case in Hampton County against a number of documentary filmmakers and a local reporter, Michael DeWitt, accusing them of defaming him by allegedly suggesting that Buster was in a romantic relationship with Stephen Smith and or responsible for Stephen's death in 2015. The defendants in the case banded together and attempted to have the case moved away from that hometown Hampton jury and into federal court.
Starting point is 00:15:28 But Buster fought to get them sent back to Hampton County. On Wednesday, Judge Gergel made that happen. Sort of. In his order, the judge allowed Warner Brothers and its associated production companies to separate themselves from the rest of the defendants. That case will proceed in federal court. As for the Netflix defendants, the Gannett defendant, and Michael DeWitt, they are headed back to state court.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Buster got most of what he had asked for, but lost his motion to have Warner Brothers sent back to. What that means is that we will potentially get to see these cases play out in two different forums. Bottom line, we still hope that these cases lead to answers in Steven's case. Anyway, when it comes to follow-up reports like the one that we are about to share with you, a single week can make a big difference in terms of how people interpret the intent there. As in why are we still talking about Jan Lancaster aka iPhone Guru? There is a good reason.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I know it is not a surprise to our loyal listeners who always know where we're coming from, who know that we are very intentional in what we report, and that it's always in service of the greater mission bringing sunlight to an issue. But like we said, Jan is a content creator, and he goes by iPhone Guru on TikTok, among other handles like Myrtle Beach Media. And he also has a loyal following of people. And it's members of that following
Starting point is 00:17:09 who started calling us out publicly and messaging us to either ask us to share the link to Jan's request for donation to his legal fund, or ask us why we were sharing one fund for protestors and not his fund. We could have ignored these people and not shared our reasons with them, which at the time was based entirely on our understanding that Jan might have blurred some lines with JP, and that mattered to us, because having blurred lines with JP is not something that
Starting point is 00:17:40 could be said about any of the protesters. But a understanding isn't knowing something. So we took a closer look to make sure we weren't jumping to conclusions or making assumptions. And what we found was worse than what we had expected. It suddenly rose to a level where we felt obligated to report our findings because this went beyond just answering Jan's followers. This was information that we felt should be talked about and made known to the defendants of JP's cases, to the lawyers offering pro bono time, to the magistrate court, and frankly, anyone who has been following the Micah Francis case who felt any sort of way about JP and
Starting point is 00:18:24 his team of associates filing dozens of frivolous lawsuits against people they wanted to intimidate into silence. Why? Because we knew that a potential legal strategy for the protesters infighting JP and his team would be to combine forces, so to speak. Additionally, it's not illogical to think that one case could influence another in the judge's eyes. We didn't want the judge, who already knew some of Jan's history with JP, to get anything twisted here. More on that in a minute.
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Starting point is 00:20:23 Conditions apply? Details at phys.ca. So in episode 86 of True Sunlight, we answered the question of why aren't you advocating for Jan along with the rest of the protesters? And we outlined why using public records, including police reports and court documents. In short, we told you all that we couldn't vouch for Jan because he not only had a history that potentially included an arrest in Utah on child abuse and domestic violence charges, records that he had filed with the court in his first legal dust-up with JP this past fall show that while purporting to stand in solidarity with the Justice for Micah movement, sometimes even as a protester, he appeared to be collaborating with JP on coverage behind the scenes,
Starting point is 00:21:09 and even admitted to offering JP a quid pro quo arrangement in an effort to get content that he could then exploit for money. Unsurprisingly, many of his followers were outraged. Not at what we found, no, no, but rather that we had reported on any of it at all. They didn't like that. And they clearly don't know us.
Starting point is 00:21:28 After the episode aired, we got a number of comments from people calling us petty. And we saw some posts online that reductively referred to our reporting as being part of some sort of squabble that is somehow taking away from the justice for Mike, a cause which is irritating and inaccurate. There's no squabble. It's simply this. We were asked to endorse Jan. We did our due diligence to see if we could. And what we found in the process wasn't something we could pretend didn't exist when talking about these lawsuits. It's not petty for journalists to do research and present their findings while being
Starting point is 00:22:02 transparent about their opinions on what they found. Which brings me to the Justice for Micah cause and the accusation that our reporting on Jan was a distraction from it. For months, the protesters, at their own expensive time and money and heartache and stress, have been committed to the Justice for Micah cause. They are doing the hard work. They are the ones making sure that JP and the police don't forget about Micah cause. They are doing the hard work. They are the ones making sure that JP and the police don't forget about Micah. They are the people making sure that those who
Starting point is 00:22:30 continue to stand by JP and his churchy business are reminded weekly about what it is they're supporting. They are the ones who remind the public week after week that the FBI is investigating this man for interstate domestic violence. They're doing it for the people who can't. They're standing there representing the rest of us. It is not a distraction for us to advocate that the court treat those people who have been shedding blood, sweat, and tears on behalf of the Justice for Micah cause be regarded in a separate and different light than a man who is using the fact that his neighbor was suddenly in national headlines as a way to grow his own online audience in
Starting point is 00:23:10 whatever way he could. At any rate, in the aftermath of our episode about Jan, he immediately tried to discredit our reporting and with the help of another content creator, took to TikTok Live and yes, I realize how ridiculous all of this sounds, but it's 2025 and this is apparently our new reality as journalists. Unfortunately for Jan and for us, he made it worse for himself and now we're obligated to correct the record because once again, it is no small thing that JP has targeted these protesters and we want the court and the public to
Starting point is 00:23:45 understand where the line of differentiation is here. So just to keep things sane and on point, we're only going to respond to two points of contention that are relevant to our goal of getting the court to regard these cases differently. The first is the court documents and how we got them. The text between Jan and JP are available on the Horry County Public Index to anyone who wants to read them. No one gave them to us. They are on the public record because Jan put them on the public record by submitting them to the court, and they are available for free with a few clicks of the mouse.
Starting point is 00:24:22 In that same case file, you will find a letter from Judge Christopher Arrakis outlining for the appellate court his rationale for granting JP a no-contact order against Jan. Jan maintains that the judge, quote, "'never said any of that stuff,' referring in part to our report that the court had found that Jan had admitted
Starting point is 00:24:43 to trying to extort JP. To be clear, we were quoting directly from the judge's own words, which I'll do again. And I quote, "'The defendant admitted to attempting to extort the plaintiff.'" According to an interview on a channel called Steph's Case Files,
Starting point is 00:24:59 Jann said that we had left out important context. So again, the documents are available to everyone. Please feel free to fact check us on that. The second point of contention is the most annoying one, because no good deed goes unpunished. To answer the question as to why we weren't trying to help raise money for Jan's legal fund and why we wanted the court to regard this case as separate
Starting point is 00:25:22 from that of the protesters, we thought it would be enough to report that there were allegations of abuse in Jan's history and that a man with his birthdate and name and physical appearance, according to a mugshot photo, was arrested and charged with inflicting serious physical injury on a child intentionally and domestic violence in the presence of a child in 2010 in Salt Lake County, Utah. Because again, we're not, despite what his followers have angrily accused us of doing, trying to ruin anyone's life here. Jan put himself in the public's fear and then asked for money.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And then his followers asked us to ask for money on his behalf. He put himself in the spotlight and then he doubled down in the spotlight. When it comes to the Utah charges, Jan and Steph on Steph's case files accused us of not doing our due diligence and said that we didn't quote confirm anything before reporting on the charges. They said we were horrible for that and not journalists. They said we quote, just went with what a certain person told them. We have no idea who that certain person would be, but I will tell you the person who did tell us and they go by the name Police Reports and Court Records.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Stuff then gave Jan her platform to set the record straight on our reporting. Jan told her and her audience that his little brother had used his name in Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, and everywhere, and that his brother had come to live with him in Utah. Jen says that he didn't know until not long ago that his brother had used his name. That's right. Jen appears to be maintaining the Utah charge was because his little brother was impersonating him and that, quote, some kid was beating up on his kid, meaning his little
Starting point is 00:27:05 brother's kid, and that his little brother quote, shoved that kid off of his kid and he got charged with something against a minor, but he used my name. Then Jan said the mugshot doesn't even look like him. And just for the record, we looked at pictures of Jan's older and younger brothers. There's only one of them that looks like the man in the mugshot and it's not Jan's brothers. Anyway, Jan told Steph that he is in the process of getting that taken care of, but that he would have done the same thing if someone were beating up on his kid, which is good. He should get started on that immediately because I imagine it's going to be a bit of an uphill battle given the circumstances of that case.
Starting point is 00:27:44 We want to protect the minor victims as best we can, so we are not going to identify them by name or say how Jan may be connected to them beyond the fact that at the time of these charges, they lived in the same house as him and a woman he was connected to romantically, who we are also not going to name. But the police reports and court documents are specific about the connections, meaning if this is Jan's brother, as Jan says, then he was deeply embedded in this I'm Jan swindle, right down to fooling people who would have known the difference between Jan and his brother. According to a police report at 6.45 p.m. on March 27, 2010, the South Salt Lake Police
Starting point is 00:28:28 Department received a 911 call reporting an incident involving child abuse. At least eight officers responded to the scene. The first officer on the scene was met by a teenage girl who was crying. She had run to a neighbor's house. When she saw the officer, she ran outside and hugged them, saying, quote, You have to help me. Please, you have to help me. According to the report, the girl was, quote, very shaken up. She told the officer that she had been washing dishes and that Jan Lancaster was in either her bedroom or the bedroom of another female child.
Starting point is 00:29:07 She said Jan was lying in the bed. The girl told police that Jan began to yell something at her. She told the officer she could not hear what he was saying so she went to see what he wanted. The girl did not say what precipitated this comment but told police that Jan, who, like we said, lived in the house with a woman, told the girl that she was grounded and that she responded, I'm
Starting point is 00:29:31 always grounded. According to the report, Jan Lancaster then quote, grabbed her by the neck with both hands, slammed her against the wall and her head hit the wall. The report says Jan then threw her from the threshold of the door to the bed. She said that when Jan was strangling her, she could not breathe. The woman who lived in the house heard what was happening and tried to intervene, according to the report. But according to the report, Jan wouldn't allow it. The girl told people that she had escaped out the back door and went to the neighbor's house.
Starting point is 00:30:05 The officer noted that the girl had a red mark on her neck. According to the report, the woman who lived in the house told police that she had heard the girl scream and came running to see what the problem was. She saw the girl crying and holding her head. She then began trying to comfort the girl. The woman told police that while she was with the girl, Jan kept trying to get the girl to go outside with him. Then the girl went into the bathroom, then ran out the door.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Jan was immediately placed under arrest, according to the report. He was read his Miranda rights, according to the report. And when asked for his side of the story, Jan told the officer that he was in the bedroom of either the girl or the female child, lying on her bed when he called for the girl. He said she came to the door of her room and then began to get quote unquote lippy. He said she started to raise her hand as if she was going to strike him. Quote from the report, Jan said that for his protection, he grabbed the girl and threw her onto the bed. Jan said that he
Starting point is 00:31:09 did not slam her against the wall or strangle her. Next, the officer spoke with a male child who lived in the house and asked him if he had ever seen Jan hit anyone in the house. According to the report, the child told the officer that Jan had hit him multiple times in the head before and that he is afraid of Jan. He also told police that he heard the girl screaming along with a loud bang. The officer went back to the girl. She told the officer that her head really hurt. The officer felt the back of her head and discovered a large goose egg, according to the report. The officer wrote that while they were speaking to the woman and the children in the house, he quote, could plainly see how fearful they were of Jan.
Starting point is 00:31:54 The report is redacted, so we're going to fill in the blanks with common nouns. Quote, One of the children told me that she is afraid every time Jan is home because she does not want to be hurt anymore." One of the children expressed that she is afraid Jan might take her life. The woman was very distraught and scared because she thinks Jan is going to hurt her and the kids when he gets out of jail. Still reading from the report here.
Starting point is 00:32:19 She said she hopes that she can finally get a new start. She expressed that she is so terrified of Jan that she has not been able to get out because she was in fear of what Jan would do to them. The report notes that the officer had taken photos of the girl and the scene and had entered them into evidence. The supplemental report notes that the woman told police that she and Jan had moved to Utah from South Carolina because quote, Jan apparently owed many people money.
Starting point is 00:32:49 She told police that Jan had been quote, physically and verbally abusive to her and the children in the past, although not arrested for anything similar. The woman told police that four or five days earlier she had witnessed Jan quote unquote slam one of the children against the wall by their throat. The officer noted that they asked the woman why Jan did that. The report says quote, She said it was because the child had talked back to Jan and this was his immediate reaction. The woman said he threatened the child that he had better not ever find out that he is talking back to the woman either.
Starting point is 00:33:27 The woman could not remember what was actually said, but her sense was that Jan would hurt the child if he caught them doing that again. This incident was not reported. According to the report, the woman told police that on the day of the 911 call, she was lying down on her bed when Jan came home around 6.30 p.m., which would be about 15 minutes before the 911 call. She said that Jan went into one of the girls' bedrooms and quote, was on his computer. He then yelled at the girl to come to the room. The woman told police that she immediately
Starting point is 00:34:01 heard the girl scream in a thud against the wall and then crying. The other children in the house immediately ran out of the house, according to the woman. When the woman asked the girl what happened, the girl said that Jan had choked her and put her against the wall. The girl told Jan, quote, "...you are not going to do this to me again." The woman told police that the girl went into the bathroom and that Jan followed her in there and that she heard Jan say, I'm sorry, I'll never do that again. The woman said that this is when the girl rushed out of the bathroom and outside.
Starting point is 00:34:33 The woman said that she was unable to call the police because she and Jan only have one cell phone and that Jan controls it. Jan was charged with inflicting serious harm on a child intentionally, which is a second degree felony, and a charge of domestic violence in front of a child, which is a Class B misdemeanor. He was held on a bond of $100,007 in order to have no contact with the victims. Jan was given a court-appointed public defender as his attorney. On June 14, 2010, Jan pleaded guilty to the first charge,
Starting point is 00:35:10 which was reduced to aggravated assault causing serious injury to another person, which is a third-degree felony. And the second charge of domestic violence was dismissed. He was given credit for 78 days time served and a suspended prison sentence of up to five years. He was required to complete 50 hours of community service and placed on supervised probation for 24 months. He was ordered to have no contact with the victim and to pay $247.71
Starting point is 00:35:40 in restitution which according to court records, he objected to. He was also ordered to have a mental evaluation within 90 days and complete whatever treatment was recommended. According to court records, Jan successfully completed his probation and his charge was further reduced from a third degree felony to a Class A misdemeanor. Looking into who Jan is was important for several reasons in this case but more importantly we are concerned about the protesters getting justice for themselves right now and we think their cases could potentially be
Starting point is 00:36:14 weighed down by Jan's case from this past fall not only because of the judge's findings there but also because of his blurred lines relationship with JP. I cannot make this clear enough. The judge is already familiar with JP and with Jan and with the facts of that case, and based on court records, the judge showed sympathy for JP, for JP, based on what he was seeing from Jan. I know these frivolous cases are starting to get dropped now, but it's not over until the very last protester is free and clear from JP's bullying.
Starting point is 00:36:53 We believe in redemption. J. Anne served his time and as far as we can tell, he was never arrested again or criminally accused of assault again. That said, the accusations made against him in the police reports were disturbing and not just the counts of assault again. That said, the accusations made against him in the police reports were disturbing and not just the counts of physical abuse. The victims expressed real fear of him.
Starting point is 00:37:13 The woman told police that she felt like she couldn't get away from Jan because she didn't know what he would do. And let's not forget how she told police that she couldn't call 911 because Jan controlled their one cell phone. We didn't like the sound of that, especially given the nature of Micah's story.
Starting point is 00:37:29 To the people who say that this is a distraction from the justice for Micah cause, well, this is it. This is the cause. We are in it. The protesters are in the thick of what, according to police records and Micah's list, Micah was experiencing toward the end of what, according to police records and Micah's list, Micah was experiencing
Starting point is 00:37:45 toward the end of her life. JP is, in our opinions, using the legal system to harass them, to get what he wants. We are watching it play out in real time, and we don't want them to fall victim to it. We want the courts to see what we see here. We want a win for the good guys. This is not a squabble.
Starting point is 00:38:07 This is not some childish disagreement between creators. This is us on behalf of the protesters, on behalf of Micah, and on behalf of every woman out there who has had the court system used against them by bullies, using our platform to stand up for justice. We are holding firm on our values and our boundaries. Getting justice for the protesters is a necessary step
Starting point is 00:38:32 in the road toward getting justice for Micah. And to suggest otherwise is to ignore the reality of what Micah went through with JP because these lawsuits are showing us who he thinks he is and what JP still thinks he has the power to do to someone. Finally, if Jan Lenkester would like to address the accusations from the police report, you are welcome to email us at info at lunasharkmedia.com and we would be happy to consider your response for
Starting point is 00:39:02 our audience to hear. So again, we ask the Horry County Magistrate Judge Christopher John Arrakis to pay attention to the details, to the evidence or lack thereof, and to realize there are two sets of grievances happening here. In the first, JP is misusing the court system to bully the protesters into silence because he not only hates what they're saying about him, per their First Amendment rights, he hates that it's happening right as he's trying to rebuild his churchy business. In the second set of grievances involving Jan and his girlfriend, we think JP's probably bullying them too.
Starting point is 00:39:44 But we can't say that with any sort of conviction given Jan's history with JP and what Jan's already admitted to doing to JP, according to court records. Which is why we think it deserves separate scrutiny. We hope this is the last time we have to talk about this. And we hope y'all understand why this is important. And one final JP update for this week. On February 14th, the paralegal that JP Miller sued for slander at September filed a pro se motion to dismiss the case against her because she was never served. In South Carolina, civil suits must be served within 120 days of filing at the courthouse.
Starting point is 00:40:24 The suit against her was first filed on September 17. On February 19, attorney Russell B. Long filed a stipulation of dismissal without prejudice and the case is now listed as dismissed. On February 20, a status conference on JP's remaining 14 cases is expected to take place in Myrtle Beach Magistrate Court. On February 20th, a status conference on JP's remaining 14 cases is expected to take place in Myrtle Beach Magistrate Court. One of the protestor defendants, Ali Quazo, has filed a countersuit against JP asking
Starting point is 00:41:01 for her case to be removed to common please. Her attorney, Philip Curry, also represents two other protestor defendants who have filed countersuit. On February 21st, J.M. Lancaster has a hearing for his appeal of the restraining order that Magistrate Judge Christopher Arrakis granted on behalf of JP Miller in October. According to the Public Index, Judge Milton G. Kimpson will preside over the hearing. And next week, on February 26, another handful of J.P.'s restraining order cases are on the docket in Myrtle Beach Magistrate Court beginning
Starting point is 00:41:37 at 8.30 a.m. Stay tuned to Beth Braden, Liz Farrell, and me on social media for updates on all of those cases. Let's talk about Krista Bauer's case after a quick commercial break. So many of you have asked us for an update in Krista Bauer's case and boy do we have one. Last week, a source sent us a link to a website that is, unlike anything we've ever seen before here, that is the only way to describe it. It is next level spoiled rich kid murder suspect a nonsense. Okay, how do I put this?
Starting point is 00:42:22 For you to have the appropriate reaction to what I'm about to tell you, I need to do a little imagination session with me. So, think about the last time you saw a woman walking around with her baby boy strapped to her chest. Adorable, right? You got that pictured in your mind? Okay. Now focus on the baby boy and picture him as a 38 year old man with a 5 o'clock shadow,
Starting point is 00:42:46 strapped into the baby bjorn with his giant loafers, scraping against the pavement with every step his mother takes. That is what finding out about Lee Gillies delusional website felt like to us. We're not saying his mother put the site together, but we've been told by multiple sources that Lee's mother seems to be very enmeshed in his life and the tone of this website is definitely that of a man who's been told he's mama's perfect boy way too many times in his life. So let me back up here for a second. You all know who Lee is. He's currently facing a capital murder charge in Houston, Texas in the murder of his wife Krista Bauer
Starting point is 00:43:23 and their unborn baby. Krista appears to have been strangled, Texas in the murder of his wife, Krista Bauer, and their unborn baby. Krista appears to have been strangled to death in the couple's house while their two young kids, Maddie and Gannon, were home. Lee originally told police that his wife had committed suicide. According to police and court documents, the medical examiner begged to differ. Lee and Krista were both from South Carolina. Lee is out on bond and on house arrest and he's barred from coming within 200 feet of his house and the children's daycare. The court has ordered that the kids remain in Texas though, forcing Christa's parents to
Starting point is 00:43:59 temporarily live more than a thousand miles from their large family and their business. Krista has three sisters whom she was very close with and a large supportive group of long-time loving friends in South Carolina. In other words, we think the court is making a huge mistake here. The children belong in South Carolina, but stick a pin in that because you're not going to believe what is happening here. First, we need to talk about Lee's website and his petition seeking to get the charge against him dropped. Yeah, a said petition. As in, he thinks people are going to rally to his cause on his behalf in great number. I cannot overstate what I'm about to say. Never in our lives have we seen a murder suspect launch this
Starting point is 00:44:43 blatant of a public relations campaign this early in the process. Lee hasn't even been arraigned yet. He doesn't even know the extent of evidence investigators have against him. But he appears to have published a site filled with Lee-gilly propaganda and photos and even a resume for some reason. It's an entirely new tactic for us when it comes to rich good ol' boys' attempts to buy their way out of accountability.
Starting point is 00:45:10 We have never seen a website get published extolling the virtues of a defendant while he's currently awaiting trial. And this website is structured as if he's running for an elected position of local innocent man. It's intense. And by the way, can you imagine if Elec Murdoch had created a website to promote his lies about being not guilty, or Bowen Turner?
Starting point is 00:45:36 I mean, we're surprised old JP Miller didn't think to do something rotten like this. One of the biggest criticisms we get on this podcast is that we don't tell, quote, both sides of the story, which is something that people have come to expect because some old man somewhere said that journalism was that a long time ago. So you know what? Today we are going to share legally side because even with the most expensive PR teams, usually someone's true colors will shine through even their own carefully crafted narrative of their quote, side.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And boy did they shine this time. That said, we want to report on this in a way that is respectful to the Bauer family, meaning we want to talk about what an aberration this is and how tremendously inappropriate and manipulative it is. But at the same time, we don't want to promote Lee's URL because he doesn't deserve the page views. Every time someone clicks on that site Lee Gillie is likely thinking he's got a friend who believes whatever story it is he's going to be providing as to how Christa died that night. Every click is a gut punch to Christa's memory. So I know it's tempting, but please try to refrain from seeking this out.
Starting point is 00:46:47 So again, we were totally unprepared for what we were about to embark on when we first looked at Lee's website. And I don't know why we were shocked when we already knew that Lee's family treated his court appearance like a 5k fun run with their Team Lee t-shirts and when we can see for ourselves the total lack of respect and regard Lee's family seems to have for the mother of their grandchildren. We were sent the link to the website last week, it was accessible, but after we had Beth Braden get in touch with Lee's attorney, Dick DeGaron, to ask about the site, it was put under password protection.
Starting point is 00:47:25 So with our jaws on the floor, we scrolled through the sections home, Krista and Lee, who is Lee, signed the petition, and resources. Yeah, guys, this is next level, privileged man on trial for murder PR stuff. Buckle up. The top of the homepage has a cover photo featuring a collage of AI-generated images depicting fatherhood. One image shows a muscly man in an all-american tank holding a baby on one arm and a basketball in the other with two toddlers playing at his feet. Another image shows a man cooking, wearing an apron, because,
Starting point is 00:48:06 you know, nothing says innocent father who loves his kids like an AI-generated picture of a man who appears to know how to cook for himself. A few of the AI images show presumably middle-aged fathers playing with their children, and one is just a bearded white dude sleeping with a baby on his chest. They were really going for heart-string tugs here using those AI images. Okay, so the title of this whole project is called Legally, colon, a husband and father wrongly accused with the subtitle, Real Life, Happening Now, Not a Documentary. I'll have David read the opener so that you can get a feel for what we're dealing with here.
Starting point is 00:48:53 A dedicated husband, father, and respected entrepreneur, Lee Gillie is now in a battle not just for his reputation, but for the love he shares with his children. Despite facing severe accusations, substantial evidence shows his innocence. The absence of physical signs to support the charges against Lee, three past polygraph tests, and an undeniable record of a loving family life. We stand here not just to defend a man's capacity to be a contributing and loving member of the world, but to fight for the truth and the right of two young children to grow up with their father, whom they love and who loves them.
Starting point is 00:49:48 This situation has torn a family apart, leaving young lives in uncertainty. A well-documented recipe for disaster for developing minds, and it's our human responsibility to seek justice and goodness. Together we can make a difference. We invite you to stand with us to support Lee Gilley in his quest for the restoration of justice and family. Your involvement, your voice can light the way to truth and family. Your involvement, your voice, can light the way to truth and healing. Be the voice for justice. Be the hope for reunion. So, we don't have all day to read this entire website to you, but the following information is important because it gives us unmatched insight into Lee's defense strategy and like I said this is his side of things. Here is David again. Lee has been wrongly charged with capital
Starting point is 00:50:58 murder. He is forbidden to contact his children. What to know? Number 1. No physical evidence. Number 2. No motive. Their marriage was one of love, clearly shown by countless date nights, pictures, and love notes. Number 3. Polygraph Innocence – Three extensive polygraph tests conducted by a world-renowned expert
Starting point is 00:51:27 show complete innocence. Number 4. Impeccable Record – In his 38 years, Lee has no criminal record, no misdemeanors, nor felonies. Number 5. Impact on His Children – Unnecessarily growing up without a loving father is a mental health and developmental crisis for his young children.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Number six, community support. There's significant community backing for Lee. Join us, share your voice, and be a positive impact on the world. The next section on the website says lie detector test shows innocence. First of all, as we have said many times in the podcast, polygraph results are inadmissible in most courts because they have been deemed scientifically unreliable due to varying accuracy, lack of standardization and subjectivity further. And we're not saying this is the scenario here, but this is also good to know,
Starting point is 00:52:30 studies have shown narcissists are more likely to pass polygraphs due to their ability to regulate their emotions during questions and responses. And of course, they are confident in their lies because they are so used to lying. And lastly, tell me more about the results of the test that you paid for. This is like Lee's parents paying for him to be listed in the who's who of American men who we swear didn't murder their wives. Anyway, Team Lee doesn't want you to know that no polygraph ever actually proves innocence. However, it was interesting to see the PDF they provided,
Starting point is 00:53:06 which opened an entire can of worms that we weren't quite ready to report on. But here we are. In the summary of what Lee told the polygraph examiner, it mentioned that the investigation revealed Krista had physical markings on her face, visible patechiae on the outer edges of her eye, and ruptured blood vessels within her eyes.
Starting point is 00:53:29 But Lee apparently had an interesting explanation for this. The report stated that Mr. Gilley asserted to investigators Christa had previously suffered an incident of hemoglobin anemia. Lee also said, quote, in 2023, Christa had a medical episode of hemoglobin anemia, where blood cells don't transport oxygen, which caused her to be hospitalized. Now, according to sources, Christa did have a serious medical issue that caused her to
Starting point is 00:53:58 be hospitalized in 2023, but it was not hemoglobin anemia. And to our knowledge, she had no such blood condition at the time of her death. We are still gathering more information on this medical issue that could or could not be related to the motive of Kra's murder. But we hope the DA's office is looking into Christa's medical records and asking the right questions. Because it is interesting at the very least that Lee mentioned Christa having a blood disorder
Starting point is 00:54:38 to explain why she had serious injuries on her face. And yes, they were serious. Reminder that Team Lee left a very crucial part of this case out of his little Road to Freedom website. And that is, according to the district attorney's office, the medical examiner found that Krista had suffered significant trauma. She had two black eyes,
Starting point is 00:55:02 along with petechial hemorrhaging to her eyelids and chin, meaning her breathing was so restricted it caused blood vessels in her face to burst. There was visible discoloration and swelling to her eyes and cheeks and extensive bruising to the muscles and tissue in her upper back between her shoulder blades. Her hyoid bone was also fractured, which is rare and usually caused by extreme physical trauma. That said, we are still learning more about Krista's previous medical incident and we hope that the DA's office is looking into this, especially since Lee brought this up
Starting point is 00:55:43 in his own defense. In addition, the polygraph gave us a glimpse into Lee's defense for what he and his team will claim at trial when they are trying to convince the jury that Lee did not kill his wife on October 7th. I'll have David read the summary of what Lee told the polygraph examiner.
Starting point is 00:56:03 read the summary of what Lee told the polygraph examiner. Mr. Gilley identified the alleged victim in his case as his wife, Krista Gilley. He stated on October 7th, 2024 he took the children to school, went to work, and also purchased a new car all in the same day. Upon learning he had purchased the vehicle, Krista became upset and after he returned home, she yelled at him in front of the children. After helping bathe the children and putting them to bed, Krista went to sleep in their bedroom
Starting point is 00:56:40 and Mr. Gilly continuing working on the couch in the living room until 11 or 11.30 pm. Thereafter he walked into the bedroom and observed her laying diagonally face up in their king-size bed. According to Mr. Gilley, quote, I turned on a light, she looked just terrible with the sheets bunched up on her and she wasn't responding, end quote. Mr. Gilley stated he called 911 and performed CPR on Krista while waiting for paramedics
Starting point is 00:57:17 to arrive. First of all, in my opinion, it says a lot about a marriage when a spouse purchases a vehicle without the other spouse's knowledge, especially in a situation like this, where, according to sources, A. Christa appeared to be the breadwinner, B. Money was tight in their household at the time, which is completely normal for a young couple with two kids and a baby on the way, and C. Again, I have to say this, sources say that Lee's business was not doing great and this is backed up by what he wrote down for his monthly income and court documents. Second, it is also telling,
Starting point is 00:57:56 in my opinion, that Lee felt the need to tell the polygraph examiner that Krista quote-unquote yelled in front of the children on the night that she was killed. To me, that doesn't sound like something a loving husband would say. It sounds, to me, like someone's subconscious is justifying a reason for her death. Again, it's my opinion, but a sick thought. Also, an important thing to note because as we've already shared with y'all before Christa's death, Lee seemed really into misogynistic memes online and the whole idea of tradwives and men's rights. So yeah, it would be triggering for a man like Lee
Starting point is 00:58:38 to have his wife yell in front of the children. Three, it's important to note here that in Lee's side of the story, he does not mention anything else abnormal happening in their home that night. He says he helped bathe the kids, put them to bed, and worked. And not once does he mention anything like, I heard a strange noise, or hint at the possibility that someone else could have entered their home that night. Four, notice it quoted Lee saying, "...she looked just terrible, with the sheets bunched up and she wasn't responding."
Starting point is 00:59:13 An interesting choice of words for describing the moment when you found your wife unresponsive the night that she died. And again, he said the only physical contact he had with Krista was performing CPR. Leah was asked the following questions on his polygraph. Do you know how Krista died? Did you do anything to cause Krista's death? Did you grab Krista by the neck? Did you put any pressure on Krista's neck? Did you choke Krista by the neck? Did you put any pressure on Krista's neck?
Starting point is 00:59:45 Did you choke Krista? Did you impede Krista's breathing? Did you administer an intoxicating drug to Krista before she died? Did you give Krista any type of controlled substance before her death? And Lee answered, no, no, no, no, no. And the polygrapher, likely hired by his
Starting point is 01:00:06 own defense attorney, wrote, Mr. Gilley's third examination was evaluated as no deception detected. Also interesting, when we last checked the website last week, Team Lee did not include the results of the other two polygraphs he was administered. Scrolling past the polygraph portions of the website, the next section is titled, See the Love. And it shows a collage of photos of the Gillies as a happy, healthy family. One picture shows Lee surrounded by tall trees
Starting point is 01:00:35 and a smiling baby in each arm. One shows Lee lifting Krista up as they kiss. You get the picture. These photos are heartbreaking. And scrolling past each one, we both kept thinking about how gut-wrenching this would be for Christa's family and friends to see. A website advocating for her accused killers,
Starting point is 01:00:55 in a sense, with myriad photos showing Christa and her children with the man accused of ending her life. Also noted, he didn't bother blurring out either of his children's faces in any photo. Could you imagine how these kids will feel in 10 years when they search their name and see their faces being used to sway the public to believe that their dad is innocent? Sick, twisted, and telling, in our opinions at least. I don't know how many times Mandy and I have to say this, but we will say it again. Some of the worst men on this planet appear to be loving fathers and husbands to the outside
Starting point is 01:01:27 world. Elec Murdoch was one of them. Chris Watts was another. Men like that can smile for kissy pictures with their wives in Coach T-ball and even look like good dads in videos playing with their children. Photos and videos that appear to show a happy family prove nothing as far as what a man is capable of doing behind closed doors. But apparently team Lee never got that memo so in addition to the photos he linked to a plethora of
Starting point is 01:01:54 home videos showing him with the children. At least one of the videos appears to have been from a security camera inside their house which could be huge when it comes to the evidence in this case. So back in early November, we noticed an entry in Lee's online case file related to a subpoena sent by the state to Simply Safe, which is the watermark on the family's video that Lee posted on his website. So this is going to be interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:21 We imagine the look at any video from before and after the time of Krista's murder and whether there's continuity in that footage, including whether anything was manipulated or erased. We aren't even done describing the homepage to you. This website just keeps going on and on. The bottom of the section is kind of like a resume for Lee's volunteer work between 2014 and 2024, which was very strange. It's like he's submitting this website as a college application. But the second to last section of the homepage,
Starting point is 01:03:05 titled Nothing is More Serious, is, in our opinion, perhaps the most offensive part of the whole thing. We're gonna summarize this section to keep us all from vomiting, but again, it's important to see his side of the story, right? Because it tells us more than he thinks it does.
Starting point is 01:03:25 It says, quote, life without parole ends a life. And that quote, Lee knows that life is love and a life in prison completely strips one's capacity to love and turns a productive loving member of society into a burden on society. Well, that sounds like a threat. It's giving don't convict me unless you want to make me worse vibes. Also, Krista's life mattered too.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Where is the demand for justice for her? Where is the call for investigators to find the so-called real killer if Lee and his family say law enforcement arrested the wrong person. Next, Team Lee claims that the media's quote-unquote rush for clicks has led to a storm of sensationalized misinformation already damaging Lee's life and his children's. And I just need to pause here because and his children's. And I just need to pause here because I have actually been shocked by the lack of media coverage in this case.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Aside from the initial reporting on the case that happened after Lee's arrest, and to be clear, there was no media coverage pressuring the police to file charges against Lee during the three days between Christa's death and Lee's arrest, it's pretty much just been this podcast and the Houston Chronicle covering this case.
Starting point is 01:04:49 But based on this very unique website, I am sure that that will change because Lee just made his own murder case one million times more interesting to the media. Also to note, Lee's attorney, Dick DeGaron, has spoken to Beth Braden several times, and not once has he ever mentioned any misinformation on this podcast. Which one would think a lawyer would do
Starting point is 01:05:15 if a podcast was spewing lies about their client? Here's where it gets worse though. The last two sections are gut punches aimed at Christa's family, claiming that Christa's children, who are in the care of Christa's parents under court order, are in living conditions with, quote, neither a mother or father figure, and their current environment, quote, does not meet any toddler's requirement for healthy development by no fault of their own. To be absolutely clear, we have spoken to a multitude of sources in this case and have heard
Starting point is 01:05:45 nothing but absolutely positive and encouraging statements about the Gilley family. Remember Krista's parents uprooted their lives to move from South Carolina to Houston to take care of Krista's two babies. Then the site says, quote, many are grieving, none more than Lee, who now faced this life without his beloved wife and partner, Krista, and without their excitedly anticipated unborn child. Grieving is natural and healthy, and blame is part of the second stage of grief.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Blaming Lee may seem natural, but it is reckless and wrong, and its consequences are real and completely inexcusable for Lee's sake and his children's. It is so embarrassing. I cannot stop picturing Lee's family ordering in salads for dinner and brainstorming ideas for this dumb site because what?
Starting point is 01:06:37 Blame is part of the second stage of grief? Lee Gillie is suspected of strangling his wife to death. This is not a case of, oh hey, why didn't you stop her from going mountain climbing, Lee? There's literally someone to blame for Krista's death. There's no psychology behind that. There isn't any stage of grief attached to it. It is a fact.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Somebody killed Krista and her unborn child. And the state of Texas says Lee did it. Is the state of Texas going through the second stage of grief? So why did they decide this was a good idea, right? Because it is so obviously a bad one. We think we know what's going on here, at least in part. Because in conjunction with this website being made available online, Lee's family appears
Starting point is 01:07:23 to be fighting Krista's family in court to either get custody of the kids or more visitation. It's not quite clear because a lot of the case is under seal. But is this website their sales pitch? Is that what's happening? In November, the court ruled in a temporary order that it would not be in the best interest of Christa's surviving children to have Lee serve as managing conservator. Instead, Christa's parents, Chris and Sharon Bauer, were named managing conservators. And Lee's sister-in-law, Kristen Autry-Gilley, was named as possessory conservator.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Kristen is married to Lee's brother, Matthew, who the court declined to name conservator for some reason. Since that ruling, there has been a lot of action in the family court case files, but most of it remains under seal. However, it's clear that Lee's family seems to be fighting for access to the kids. According to the file, there's a deposition scheduled for this week with Lee by the Bowers' attorney, and Lee's brother and sister-in-law are fighting it and asking the court to quash it. Last week, it appears that the court granted a motion for protective order and awarded attorney's fees. It's not clear though who requested the order or who the fees were awarded to, but a good
Starting point is 01:08:31 assumption would be that the Bauer family was the party seeking the order based on the court records. That said, we have to ask this question. Why can't the Gilley family accept reality right now? Their son is going to be on trial for the murder of Krista Bauer and her unborn child. He is a murder suspect. And that makes them the family of a murder suspect. In no world would a rational person think that it makes sense for the children of a
Starting point is 01:08:58 murder victim be put in the care or custody of the suspect or his family when the children's mother's family is able and willing to give them all the love and care in the world. So hey, Gilly family, team Lee, how about stop making life difficult for the people who lost their daughter in a violent death? How about you pump the brakes and be decent people and just wait until the outcome of Lee's case is clear. Just wait until you know what the evidence shows. Wait until you know what you're actually talking about.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Back off and let the kids be with their mother's family. I know we threw a lot of updates at y'all today, but I think the theme is pretty clear here. Good old boys will continue to have limitless audacity as long as the system allows them to get away with whatever they get into. And it is our job to not let them. We have so much more to share on the Lee Gilley case, the Turner case, JP Miller, and everything in between.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. True Sunlight is a Lunar Shark production created by me, Manny Matney, and co-hosted by journalist Liz Farrell. Learn more about our mission and membership at lunasharkmedia.com. Hey there, EB here, your faithful Cup of Justice co-host. I am so excited to tell you about my new book, Anything But Bland. In this memoir, I share stories about my childhood marked by bullying, my father's job loss, and the indomitable spirit that propelled me into the law and ultimately
Starting point is 01:10:52 international recognition during the Alex Murdoch murder trial. I believe in certain life principles that have helped me and helped others achieve success. From the power of organization and a sense of urgency to the importance of truth, leadership, and resilience. With vivid recollection from challenges and triumphs framing each chapter, success isn't about luck. It's earned through skill and hard work. Please visit TheErikBland.com to learn more about the book Anything But Bland is the manifesto for those
Starting point is 01:11:25 seeking triumph over adversity and a guide for anyone aspiring to reach their full potential.

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