Murdaugh Murders Podcast - TSP #98 - ‘Act Like A Victim’: The Evidence That Broke The Good Ole Boys + Angie Solomon’s Stunning Conversation With Undercover Cop In Hitman Sting

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

Investigative journalists Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell share a jam-packed episode of shocking revelations in several ongoing cases.  We’ll start with developments in the Houston, TX prosecution of ...(2:47) Lee Gilley from his  "Closed-Door" hearing on Tuesday and then move to (11:41) Angie Solomon’s simultaneous 'Live-Broadcast-Against-Judge's-Orders' Probable Cause / Preliminary hearing in Franklin, Tennessee.  Before Angie’s arrest earlier this month, she had vocally accused her ex-husband, former TV news anchor Aaron Solomon, of killing their 18-year-old son, Grant, in 2020, and sexually abusing their daughter, Gracie, who is now 18. On Tuesday, the undercover officer who posed as a hitman for hire played a recording for the court in which Angie — the mother of Grant and Gracie Solomon — can be heard trying to negotiate for her Aaron’s killing … on a credit plan. ..? Also on today’s episode, (28:00) Part Two of the Weldon Boyd Calls and what former Horry County Police Deputy Chief Brandon Strickland AND recently-fired HCPD Officer Damon Vescovi did in the aftermath of Scott Spivey’s killing.  Let's dive in... 🥽🦈 Episode Resources “Horry Co. officials urge Governor, SLED to reopen contentious 2023 shooting case” - WPDE, April 17, 2025 📰 “ACT LIKE A VICTIM - CAMERA” Note Video 🎞️ “Horry County terminates longtime employee for ‘conduct unbecoming of an officer’” - The Sun News, April 30, 2025 📰 Referenced Episodes: TSP ⁠88⁠ & ⁠96⁠ 🎧 Premium Links Justice for Christa’s FB Update - April 29, 2025⁠ 🌐 ⁠Lee Gilley’s Grand Jury Indictment - April 7, 2025⁠ 📄 ⁠Lee Gilley’s Motion for Discovery & Protective Order - April 28, 2025⁠ 📄 ⁠Angie Solomon’s Arrest Warrant Paperwork - April 13, 2025⁠ 📄 Angie Solomon Hearing - April 29, 2025 🎞️ Interactive Map of Scott Spivey’s Final Hour 📍 ⁠Premium Members ⁠also get access to ad-free listening, searchable case files, written articles with documents, case photos, episode videos and exclusive live experiences with our hosts on ⁠lunasharkmedia.com⁠ all in one place. ⁠CLICK HERE⁠ to learn more: ⁠https://bit.ly/3BdUtOE⁠. ⁠Check out our LUNASHARK Merch 👕⁠ What We're Buying... Chewy - ⁠chewy.com/mandy⁠ - Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy. Save $20 on your first order and get free shipping at ⁠chewy.com/mandy⁠ or visit our storefront here: ⁠https://www.shop.anchor.store/chewy/@trusunlightpod⁠ Here's a link to some of our favorite things: ⁠https://amzn.to/4cJ0eVn⁠ *** ALERT: If you ever notice audio errors in the pod, email ⁠info@lunasharkmedia.com⁠ and we'll send fun merch to the first listener that finds something that needs to be adjusted! *** Thank you to Lori M. for an adjustment near 27:55 :) For current & accurate updates: ⁠bsky.app/profile/mandy-matney.com⁠ | ⁠bsky.app/profile/elizfarrell.com⁠ ⁠TrueSunlight.com⁠ ⁠facebook.com/TrueSunlightPodcast/⁠ ⁠Instagram.com/TrueSunlightPod⁠ ⁠Twitter.com/mandymatney⁠ ⁠Twitter.com/elizfarrell⁠ ⁠youtube.com/@LunaSharkMedia⁠ ⁠tiktok.com/@lunasharkmedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:55 way out of this one. My name is Mandi Matney. This is True Sunlight, a podcast exposing crime and corruption previously known as the Murdoch Murders podcast. True Sunlight is a Lunashark production written with journalist Liz Farrell. Hello, hello, and happy Thursday from Atlanta. Yesterday, Luna Shark journalist Beth Braden exposed game-changing evidence that led to the immediate termination of Horry County Police Officer Paul Damon Viscovi. And that is a big deal. A huge deal.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And we are so proud of Beth. And so proud that she is a part of our Luna Shark team. Unfortunately, Horry County Police Chief Chris Leonhardt lied about this in his press conference announcing the termination. And he did this while promising to demand high standards from their officers from this point forward, ironically. We will talk more about this lie later on in the episode, but I want to start out by saying this. The good old boys lying about this only motivates us to
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Starting point is 00:04:25 We have a lot to cover today, so let's start with the Gilley case. Christina Bauer Gilley of Houston, Texas lost her life on a Tuesday in October. To honor Christa's memory while bringing awareness to domestic violence, Christa's best friends, who run the Justice for Christa page, have vowed to wear purple every Tuesday to make Tuesdays a little less heavy. Oddly enough, since Krista's best friends, dubbed the Purple Ladies, started their Purple Tuesday campaign, some of the most significant events in Krista's murder case have occurred on Tuesdays. On a Tuesday in March, Krista's autopsy report finally came back after
Starting point is 00:05:07 more than five months of waiting. This was a big step toward justice as it seemed unusually long to wait for an autopsy and we heard that the autopsy needed to be complete for Lee to be indicted. Then on a Tuesday in April, Krista's husband Lee Gillie was finally indicted by a Texas grand jury on one count of capital murder. And on this Tuesday, Lee Gillie finally faced his first formal court appearance since he was charged in the murder of his wife Krista and their unborn child on October 11, 2024. Initially, Lee Gillie was held on no bond. That was before he hired his fancy defense team, now led by Dick DeGaron, who secured him a $1 million bond that got him released.
Starting point is 00:06:00 He was released on October 21. On October 17, the judge issued an order on Lee's bond and pre-trial supervision. Ever since then, Lee Gillie has pretty much been free to roam around Texas with very few restrictions. He's barred from coming within 200 feet of his house in his children's daycare. The court has ordered that the kids remain in Texas under Krista's parents' care, forcing Krista's parents to temporarily live more than a thousand miles from their family and business, which is why we urge anyone listening to this podcast to donate to the Ghillie family's GoFundMe to help with their legal battle. Tuesday's arraignment was a big deal because it has been postponed twice already this year.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I've heard from sources close to the situation that Lee Gilley considered these delays with the arraignment, indictment, and autopsy as signs that his charges were going to be dismissed. In Texas, prosecutors have 180 days after filing charges to indict. Otherwise, unless a special motion is approved with the court, the case is dropped. We heard that Lee Gillie was allegedly telling people in Texas last month that he was holding out hope that prosecutors would dismiss his murder case after the six-month mark had passed. But Lady Justice said, girl, no. And 180 days exactly after Christa's murder, Lee was indicted. The indictment states that Lee, quote, intentionally and knowingly caused the death of Christa
Starting point is 00:07:40 Gilley by applying pressure to Christa Gilley's neck and upper back and intentionally and knowingly causing the death of an unborn child by applying pressure to Christa Gilley's neck and upper back while Christa Gilley was pregnant with the unborn. Christa was nine weeks pregnant with their third child. Their two children were in their single-floor house at the time that Krista was allegedly strangled. On scene, Lee Gilley told police that his wife overdosed, but that story seemed to fall apart soon after medical professionals took one look at Krista and found that she suffered significant trauma and was in fact killed by strangulation. It is not unusual for accused killers to tell police that their wives had died by suicide.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Because think about it, it is the best way to derail an investigation, and sadly, it works more often than we would think. Some cops just want to close cases, and it's often too easy for everyone on scene to just call it a suicide and skip all of the initial steps in preserving evidence in a murder scene. Not to mention, it's totally indicative of police giving men the absolute benefit of the doubt and screwing things up because of that. We discuss this concept in the Kaluchi case and extensively in episode 71 and we call
Starting point is 00:09:04 it the suicide lie. What is unusual in this case is that we haven't found a history of domestic violence from Lee Gillie. We have FOIA'd for police reports and 911 calls and unlike pretty much every other defendant we have ever investigated on this show, Lee Gillie had no documented history of encounters with the police, from what we can find at least. We also found no evidence of Christa trying to leave the relationship, which was also unusual. The big mystery here has always been motive. If things went down the way that prosecutors say they did, how did Lee Gillie go from putting
Starting point is 00:09:46 his kids to bed to murdering his wife? He told police that Christa and he had argued that night because he bought a car earlier that day. But that kind of fight doesn't seem like enough to trigger a man who doesn't have an extensive history of violence? What if the argument was about something more than a car? Tuesday's arraignment was focused mostly on discovery and planning, with an upcoming June 4th hearing on the books.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Unfortunately, not a lot of details of the case against Lee Gillie were revealed. However, Krista's medical records were discussed as part of Discovery. And we need to talk about this part of the case as it could play a big role. Remember in episode 88, back in February, when we exposed Team Lee Gillie's strange website advocating for his freedom? A section of that weird website that was quickly taken down after our episode aired included a PDF of one of Lee's polygraph results, which he had gotten through his lawyer and paid for himself. As you all know, polygraphs are worthless for a number of reasons, but Lee's polygraph
Starting point is 00:10:59 report provided something very interesting. While attempting to explain why Christa had bruises on her face and ruptured blood vessels when she was found unresponsive on the night of October 7, 2024, Gilley told the polygraph that Christa, quote, had previously suffered an incident of hemoglobin anemia. Lee also said, quote, in 2023 Christa had a medical episode of hemoglobin anemia where the blood cells don't transport oxygen, which caused her to be hospitalized. But the thing is, according to sources, that isn't correct. Christa did have a serious medical issue that caused her to be hospitalized multiple times
Starting point is 00:11:39 in 2023, but it wasn't hemoglobin anemia. And to our knowledge, she had no such blood condition at the time of her death. So what was going on with Krista's health in the year before her death? And could it be related to her murder? In February, we specifically mentioned that the DA's office should be subpoenaing for Krista's medical records to find out. And props to them because they have fired off several subpoenas related to Krista's medical records to find out. And props to them because they have fired off several subpoenas related to Krista's medical records.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Had Gilly ever done anything to hurt his wife before he allegedly killed her in October 2024, when she was nine weeks pregnant? One thing we know about him from his social media posts is that he was a supporter of so-called men's rights and the idea that mothers should stay at home and not have careers. Krista not only had a career as a physical therapist, she loved it and she excelled at it. Meanwhile, Lee struggled in his career as a spreadsheet guy. We hope the DA finds the answer to
Starting point is 00:12:41 this in Discovery. In court this week, Lee's defense team, led by Texas legal powerhouse Dick DeGaron, filed a motion for discovery from one of the medical facilities Christa was treated at, specifically her IVF treatment, saying that Team Lee believes there is exculpatory evidence in those records related to her medical condition. What could be in there? Hopefully we learn more at Lee's upcoming court hearing in Harris County on June 4th. Stay tuned to the Justice for Christa page on Instagram for updates on this case and wear your purple on Tuesdays. Okay, like I said, this was a busy week.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Earlier this month, we told you about how Angie Solomon, the mother of Grant Solomon, who died mysteriously in 2020, was arrested and charged with trying to hire a hitman to kill her ex-husband Aaron Solomon. Angie has accused Aaron Solomon publicly of being involved in Grant's death and sexually abusing their daughter Gracie. Erin, the former Nashville TV anchor, and Erin Solomon had a nasty and treacherous divorce over a decade ago. Angie has also publicly accused Erin of having good ol' boy connections throughout Tennessee, most importantly.
Starting point is 00:13:59 She's been a loud critic of multiple police agencies in the Nashville area, since Grant's death, Angie Solomon has fought to have the district attorney's office take another look at the evidence in Grant's case and she's fought to keep Erin away from their teenage daughter, who also alleges that Erin sexually abused her for years. On April 11th, Angie Solomon was arrested and charged with trying to hire a hitman to kill Erin and she's been held in jail on a $500,000 bond until her arraignment on Tuesday. We obviously had a lot of initial questions about this incident as we said Angie's been a vocal critic of law enforcement since her son's 2020 death. Like we were asking, was this a setup? What exactly led the police to use an officer as a fake hitman? And how did they contact Angie?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Could this be entrapment? How exactly did this happen? And most importantly, is there audio or video that shows this happening? On Tuesday, April 29, Angie appeared before Judge MT Taylor for a preliminary hearing where the state presented their case for probable cause. This was essentially a very early preview of trial. And I'll be honest, the evidence that they have against Angie is alarming. The state called Agent Atkins from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations to the stand,
Starting point is 00:15:31 and they played a recording of Atkins' encounter with Angie Solomon on April 29th, when Atkins went undercover as a hitman and met Angie in the Macy's parking lot in Franklin, Tennessee. When Atkins went undercover as a hitman and met Angie in the Macy's parking lot in Franklin, Tennessee on the afternoon of April 11th.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Let me start out by saying, yes, they had audio of this. And yes, it is damning in our opinion. Here is a clip from the beginning of this exchange. By the way, premium members can watch this entire hearing at the link in the description. It is worth it, because it's wild. I understand you do support. What I've seen the last, I have my own people working for justice. The problem is what I've seen is that what he's been doing in the last six months, because I called support and then instead I dropped it before I could drop it back in that address again.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And what I found out is, well, he's got teeth in and he's never letting go. I, he has to be able to just like a council wants him to be able to do that. He's ready to go. He belongs in prison or he belongs under the ground. And I mean. He belongs in prison or he belongs under the ground. He belongs under the ground.
Starting point is 00:17:11 That is what Angie said, to be clear. We are all baffled at this recording, particularly about how relaxed Angie felt with this undercover officer who in our opinion sounds and looks like a cop. She even joked about the possibility of the fake hitman recording her. I don't be worried about you doing that before me. Well, that never happened. I'll tell you that right now. This conversation has never happened.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And I thought two things disappearing or is one and the other would be the proof of it Of it and that allows Large trust and that we can not make a default place, but I've had there. I don't care about the money I think it's a plan of them just to disappear Anyway, you want it done? You want me to, what do you want me to do to it? I want you to do whatever you do." So to be clear, what Angie was saying here is that she wants proof of Aaron disappearing,
Starting point is 00:18:20 so she will be given access to a large trust through their daughter. I also want to be clear that after Angie said that she wants him to do whatever he does, she followed that by saying basically do what you feel is appropriate to do to a man that she believes sexually abused their daughter and that she believes killed her son. So I need to pause here because these are merely accusations largely based off Angie Solomon's beliefs, which are now obviously less credible and we have to state over and over that Aaron Solomon has not faced charges for anything that Angie has accused him of doing and he sued Angie for defamation several years ago. However, it is important to also point out that Gracie herself, who is now 18, remains
Starting point is 00:19:10 the true living victim of this story. On a YouTube video, she publicly accused her father of sexually abusing her. We also obtained texts from Grant Solomon before he died, where he talked about getting custody of his little sister when he turned 18 to protect her. It's also important to say that police have never accused Aaron of causing Grant Solomon's death. Grant died after his truck rolled over him in the parking lot of a training facility in Gallatin, Tennessee, where he was meeting his father for baseball practice.
Starting point is 00:19:47 The police did not thoroughly investigate Grant's death, and Aaron did not want to have an autopsy done on his son. So a lot of the details related to how exactly the 18-year-old was killed by his own truck rolling over him remain mysterious and baffling. We also have to note what we revealed in episode 96. Earlier this month, Beth Brayden learned of a police report documenting the accounts of two witnesses who came forward in Grant's case last year. They told police that what they saw was an accident. Angie has known this information for over a year and has not shared it with the public.
Starting point is 00:20:30 This context matters to understand the full scope of what is happening here. More on that in a minute. We'll be right back. Let's take a pause so I can tell you about this amazing sponsor, Lumen. All you have to do is breathe into your Lumen first thing in the morning and you'll know exactly what's going on with your metabolism, whether you're burning mostly fats or carbs. Then Lumen gives you a personalized nutrition plan for that day, based on your measurements. We love that Lumen is helping us be more consistent in achieving our goals, and the app is so
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Starting point is 00:22:20 Corey Mitchell, the British Airways killer, serial killer Peter Sutcliffe, and cases I've worked. Crime Analyst is more than entertainment. It's life changing. Follow and listen to Crime Analyst wherever you get your podcasts. And for deeper dives, exclusive episodes and videos, and to be part of my dynamic monthly live events and more, join the Crime Analyst Squad. Go to patreon.com forward slash crime analyst. There are a lot of layers of trauma in the Solomon story. And that's how I see Angie in this recording. I hear a broken woman on the verge.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But what is scary is the level of details she went into when asked about Aaron's day to day whereabouts. She told the fake hitman about the gym that he visits every day. She told him about his millionaire apartment that is gated. But she said that there's a way to get through the back fence. She told him details about the cars he drives and the bumper stickers on them. She told him exactly where he went to work every day. I don't want to play this part of the clip because I don't want to encourage anyone to stock this man,
Starting point is 00:23:31 but I want to make the point that Angie indicated she had spent a significant amount of time and energy closely monitoring Aaron to the point that would concern anyone. In another part of the recording, Angie said that she wanted Aaron to know that the hit came from her and that she quote, wants the hitman to be mean while killing Aaron. She said that she was considering the hit Vigilante Justice of the olden days. And in another part of the recording presented in court on Tuesday, the agent posing as a hitman asked Angie about payment for this hit. This is where it gets tricky, because Angie claims to not have any money and the detective, posing as a hitman, knows that he needs to secure some form of payment for the solicitation of murder charge to stick. life insurance on him or anything. Well here's the thing, so I've talked to him to disappear
Starting point is 00:24:48 so people wouldn't think they were going after you to trust, right, because that is false to my thought. But he doesn't disappear and was found, like he was suicide, something like that, then or he's known to be a super fit a really fast job I like to get I'm gonna bet I worry that you can draw more attention to it but then the How much are we talking? I don't know. I just don't know how to... I don't know how to... I don't know even if you would tell me that that's the thing for me. We're still be following. For his aesthetic. Even if he just disappeared.
Starting point is 00:25:44 So those money will be common. Well something like this about five thousand. That's all. Yeah. I'm sorry I'm laughing but he's the murderer. He's not worth it. Yeah well. I'm sorry but you know what, I'll just tell you something. It's a risk I'm taking.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I pray for me. I pray. I mean this person is tight. And you've said this is like back in the olden days. And a lot of other people's lives. And a lot of other people's lives. And a lot of children that I know personally. Yeah. We're talking about paying later. I want to need something to hold in. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like some kind of This is when Agent Atkins brought up the idea of Angie giving the hitman her…car registration. Yes, the piece of paper that shows that you paid state vehicle taxes. So this is completely bizarre because there's no monetary value to a car registration. It's not a car title.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It literally only proves that Angie paid her car registration. It's not a car title. It literally only proves that Angie paid her car taxes. So we are not clear on what this might mean for the future of Angie's charges, because she gave this guy essentially nothing. Later in court, the judge asked Agent Atkins about this. Everyone that you spoke to is either either your boss, Agent Ogle, or were on the scene that day. Yes, sir. Is that accurate? Now you stated you received vehicle registration, correct?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yes, sir, from Mississauga. Okay. Now, you didn't ask for a vehicle title? No, sir, just the registration. I don't think I asked for the title. Okay, so you would agree registration does not necessarily denote ownership? Right, it's just a registration. Okay, and someone is paying a car loan, you'd still register a vehicle? Yes sir. Or someone leasing a vehicle
Starting point is 00:28:17 would still register a vehicle? Yes sir. Okay, so the ability to transfer ownership is virtually non-existent regarding if registration is the only... As far as I understand, you would need the title to transfer ownership. And there was a discussion regarding a trust fund. Are you aware if a trust fund does exist? No, sir. Okay. Do you have no details regarding that? No, sir. How long after the end of the recording we just heard was Ms. Solon taken into custody?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Once she got out of the vehicle and started walking away, I gave the takedown signal across the transmitter and they immediately pulled up and stopped her before she got to her vehicle. So after Angie retrieved her car registration, again, weird, the other officers nearby arrested Angie on the scene. In court, Atkins was asked how this investigation began and we were shocked to hear that he was assigned to this case the day before after an informant had called law enforcement to report Angie. He testified that he did not know Aaron or Angie before this happened. He also said that the informant who notified police of Angie's plan to hire a hitman was
Starting point is 00:29:40 on scene with them and introduced Angie to the agent. He also said that the informant who notified police of Angie's plan to hire Hitman was on the scene with them and introduced Angie to the agent. We'll talk more about that in another episode. Also Kyle Brink of the Franklin Police Department testified that Angie had intentions of having two other individuals killed by a hitman and from our understanding she could face more charges. Surprisingly, after all of that, Judge MT Taylor reduced Angie's bond from $500,000 to $250,000.
Starting point is 00:30:18 If she is able to make a bond, she will be on house arrest and only permitted to leave her home for court appearances or meetings with her lawyer. Additionally, phones and internet-connected devices will have to be removed from her home. As of Wednesday morning, Angie Solomon is still behind bars. The court mentions scheduling a mental health evaluation for Angie sometime in the future. All of this is difficult to report. When one victim like Angie, who has fought the system, allegedly does something illegal like this, it unfortunately hurts not only the credibility of her story and her daughter's
Starting point is 00:30:58 story, it tends to hurt all victims. But we cannot let that happen. Going forward, we are going to continue to fight for victims. We are going to continue to expose the truth wherever it leads, including in this case. We need to know more about the alleged abuse Aaron is accused of and we need to know more about what Angie's alleged search for a hitman really looked like. Because despite what Angie says on the recordings, we still need to know how did she end up in this situation? Okay, now let's talk more about the Scott's Byvie case.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Last week, we gave you part one of North Myrtle Beach businessman Weldon Void's calls with one of his BFFs forever, the now former Horry County Police Department's Deputy Chief, Brandon Strickland, who was forced to resign last month as a result of what Scott's sister, Jennifer Foley Spivey, and her attorney Mark Tinsley had uncovered in the files of the so-called investigation. Let's do a quick recap. The calls between Brandon and Weldon started at 629 September 9th, 2023, about 30 minutes after Weldon and his friend,
Starting point is 00:32:12 Bradley Williams, shot and killed Scott to death on Camp Swamp Road in Horry County. Weldon asked Brandon to come to the scene. At first, Brandon was like, okay, but then he called back to be like, yeah, that's not a good idea, but I'm sending the right people your way. The right people included good old boy detective Alan Jones, which is exactly how Brandon described him to Weldon, a good old boy.
Starting point is 00:32:37 In those phone calls we told you about last week, Brandon told Weldon that he was, quote, working in the shadows on behalf of Weldon, and he explained why Horry County police had towed Scott's truck with Scott's body still in it to the impound lot, where they put Scott's body contorted from rigor mortis on a tarp on the floor, undressed him, and photographed him. In one photo, Scott's body is lying on the tarp
Starting point is 00:33:04 with just his tank top on. Police had taken off his shorts and photographed him. In one photo, Scott's body is lying on the tarp with just his tank top on. Police had taken off his shorts and his underwear and took a photo of him, which wasn't, as Horry County Police said at the time, normal or because of the weather. It was because Brandon, according to the recordings, wanted to make sure that the evidence would paint the picture in the best light to help clear Weldon. Last week we left you with Brandon's called to Weldon around 1 p.m. on September 10th, 2023, the day after Scott's killing. An hour and a half after that call,
Starting point is 00:33:38 Brandon called Weldon again. Three minutes are redacted from this call and in the bits and pieces a conversation that weren't redacted from this call. And in the bits and pieces, a conversation that weren't redacted, Brandon tells Weldon again to stay off social media. He tells him to keep a low profile. And here is how they ended that call. I thought you had something to worry about, I tell you. Okay. I'm telling you, I have nothing to worry about. I'm just going to take a sleeping pill and try to sleep. Yeah, you probably do need to go to sleep. You'll probably sleep a bit, a good hard sleep for you.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Alright, I'll call you if I get upset. Yep, do it. Come right here, dude. I got my phone on me 24-7. You call me. Thank you, Brandon. Yeah, buddy. You have nothing to worry about.
Starting point is 00:34:25 The number two guy at Horry County Police Department said to a homicide suspect, reach out 24 seven. He said, I'm here for you. You know how we always point out that Horry County Police treated JP Miller like they were his personal security team and treated Micah like she was an inconvenience and immediately gave her zero benefit of the doubt and questioned her credibility based on a history that, in our opinions, was manufactured and documented by her husband for this very purpose. In this case, the Oreg County Police Department is Weldon Boyd's concierge service, his on-call
Starting point is 00:35:03 therapist, his cleaning crew, his public relations team, his nanny. I don't even feel like I'm being hyperbolic about this. I half want to look at Weldon Boyd's DoorDash orders from September 2023 just to make sure there's not a receipt in there from a restaurant called The Fix's Inn where they serve only one meal and it's called No Charges Filed. While looking through text messages between Weldon and various Horry County Police Department friends, I'm honestly surprised I didn't find an alert that said, Brandon's got your
Starting point is 00:35:35 order and is headed your way. Speaking of, we now know who Daniel is. Remember last week we said that Brandon had told Weldon that he had been talking to his wife and someone named Daniel about how hard it was for him not to go down to the scene. Turns out Daniel is Daniel Spencer, one of Brandon's closest friends who is a detective at Horry County Police Department. Daniel is also saved in Weldon's phone as Daniel Spec Ops or Daniel
Starting point is 00:36:03 Special Operations. At 6 29 on September 9th, 2023, right when Weldon was calling Brandon Strickland from the crime scene, Daniel Spencer texted Weldon, Hey, do you still have the ring? My son is looking for one. Five minutes later, Daniel texted, are you okay? Four minutes after that, he texted, call me if you need to. Weldon didn't text him back for an hour and a half, at least according to records we have from the investigation.
Starting point is 00:36:32 When he did reply, he simply wrote, he tried to kill me. Daniel responded, you are fine. You are okay. That's all that matters. The next day, Horry County Detective Daniel Spencer initiated a conversation over text with Weldon, according to records. Here's how it went. Daniel said,
Starting point is 00:36:50 I'm very happy you are okay, buddy. If you ever need to talk, I will talk with you. If not, it's okay. Just try to relax and wind down. Weldon texted Daniel back about how people were spreading rumors about him and how he didn't even know Scott before that day. Daniel consoled him and told him the best thing Weldon could do would be to let it go. On the afternoon of September 12th, Daniel texted Weldon,
Starting point is 00:37:14 Hey buddy, checking on you. Weldon responded, I'm just laying low. It's gotten so much worse. People calling the restaurant, telling employees they work for a murderer. I guess a new witness came forward that contradicts what the other five witnesses said, so that makes me nervous. My reputation is ruined. I keep getting told it's okay, but I'm living in total fear of cops coming to my door to arrest me. I defended my life. That's all I did. This is just awful.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Daniel, the Horry County police detective, wrote back to Weldon, the current homicide suspect. I know you did. You're okay. Weldon replied, Everyone keeps saying that. I just hope I am. I didn't want this shit. All I wanted was to make sure he didn't disappear before a cop could find him.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Daniel said, I know buddy. I know. Hang tight, man. You'll be okay. It takes time. Weldon reacted to that message with a heart. Then wrote, I wanna pay for the guy's funeral, but that would look bad offering, right?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Daniel wrote back, I can't tell you what to do with that. Maybe just sit back and just give it a little time. Weldon wrote, okay, I'm sorry this happened and added to all of y'all's workload. Daniel said, Man, never be sorry for where you were and what you had to do. We'll talk later when this is all over buddy. Just relax and try to focus on other things if you can.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And Weldon reacted to that with a heart. And Daniel wrote, That's what I'm saying buddy. You were out there at that moment for a reason. So that's two big players at the Horry County Police Department in contact with Weldon in the days after the shooting for purposes other than getting information for the investigation. Then there was Weldon's call with someone saved in his phone as Ken Kowarski, Horry County Police. In fact, Ken called Weldon the morning after the shooting to check up on him.
Starting point is 00:39:04 He told Weldon, if there's anything you need, let me know, even though there's not a whole lot I can do for you. Weldon thanked him and mentioned he'd already had a bunch of officers reach out to him that morning. It's not clear who those officers were beyond Brandon and Daniel, but at the end of the call Weldon then tells Ken, as always, if there's anything I can do for you, let me know and I'm going to get it done. So that makes three Horry County officers who were having conversations with Weldon to make sure he was okay and taken care of.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Oh wait, there were at least four. Let's not forget handpicked good ol' boy Detective Alan Jones. On the morning of September 11th, 2023, Weldon complained to his mother that he thought Scott's family was going to sue them because, quote, all the people are sharing and saying how great he was and the Sun News article is awful, making it out like he was the victim. Weldon's mom said, Sun News is the trash news and, quote, the family has no facts from the cops yet. They don't know anything that happened.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Weldon responded that he didn't think that was true. And Weldon's mother texted back, the detective told us the other night, they don't tell family anything until the investigation is closed. So that's great, right? Weldon's getting information about the investigation, but not the Spivey family.
Starting point is 00:40:26 That conversation between Weldon and his mom happened two days after Scott was killed. The detective was telling the shooter's parents that the dead man's family will be kept in the dark. According to texts and phone calls, Weldon was particularly agitated with social media and reactions to news reports of the shooting. Later that same afternoon, Weldon's mom tried to soothe his anxiety by asking him a question. She texted him this. Do you remember the detective telling y'all at the truck that no charges were going to
Starting point is 00:40:57 be filed? Which sounds a lot like a detective telling suspects, before an investigation had been conducted, what the results were going to be when all was said and done, which to our ears anyway, sounds super shady. And also the exact opposite of what Horry County Police Department wants the public to believe about who they are, which is an agency that values transparency, honesty,
Starting point is 00:41:20 and that follows the evidence. And we'll have more on this horrible agency after a quick commercial break. We'll be right back. Okay, back to Brandon and Weldon's calls. So that was their sixth phone call since the shooting, less than 24 hours before. Or at least the sixth, according to what is in the case file. There are inconsistencies between call logs and other information that lead us to believe
Starting point is 00:41:56 that there could be calls missing. But just going from what we got a few hours after ending the call with Weldon, Brandon does that interview that he had told Weldon, Brandon does that interview that he had told Weldon about earlier that morning. The interview he had to knock off while on the road with the good old boy detective, again, Brandon's words, that Brandon handpicked to investigate the shooting. That interview was necessary because according to Brandon,
Starting point is 00:42:24 Weldon had called him from the scene and they needed to do this so Scott's family couldn't accuse them of doing anything corrupt down the road. Now, Brandon was obviously worried about the appearance of impropriety from the very, very beginning. In our opinions, he didn't seem bothered by the impropriety itself, just that people would accuse them of that and therefore they needed to preemptively cover their butts.
Starting point is 00:42:48 We'll talk more about this in part 3 of Weldon's relationship with the Horry County Police Department and what the calls, texts and body camera footage says about that. In the meantime, here is what Brandon said happened in the two phone calls he had with Brandon from the scene of Scott's death. This is the interview between Brandon and his handpicked good old boy. Today is Sunday, September 10th, approximately 620 in the afternoon. Detective Alan Jones speaking with Mr. Brandon Strickland via telephone in reference to the incident that occurred at Camp Swamp Road and Highway 9 on September the 9th
Starting point is 00:43:32 Mr. Strickland, I think Mr. Boyd had called you shortly after that incident. Could you just tell me what he said? Yes, sir about 6 to 29 p.m. I was at my home. I received a phone call from Weldon Boyd. I answered, and he said, hey, where you at? And I could tell in his voice, he sounded like something was wrong. I said, I'm at home. I said, what's going on? And he said, I need you to come to me right now. And I said, well, what's going on? And he said, I need you to come to me right now.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And I said, well, what's going on? What's happened? And he said, well, there's a guy, he just pulled a gun on me and was shooting at me and I had to shoot back. And I said, well, where are you? And he said, I'm at Camp Swamp Road and Highway 9. Can you please come to me?
Starting point is 00:44:29 And I said, you had to shoot somebody. And I'm just recalling in my mind, you know, it's not word for word. I said, you had to shoot somebody. He said, yeah. He said, the guy was trying to kill me. I said, was, is the guy, I said, you need to call 911. He said, well, the police, I've already done that. He said, the police are here.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I said, okay, I said, is Weldon, is the guy alive? He said, no, I think he's dead. And I said, okay, well, you need to get off the phone with me. You need to talk with the officers and take care of talk with the officers and take care of that with the officers on scene. And he said, okay, please come to me. I said, look, just get off the phone with me and talk with the officers.
Starting point is 00:45:15 So I hung up the phone with him and I was like, you know what, I don't need to go up there. So after a couple minutes passed, I called him back to get an answer and I called him back again. I said, look, man, I can't come up there to you. And he said, look, I understand. I said, you know, you'll be fine. Just talk with the officers.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Tell them what happened and go from there. He said, okay. and that phone conversation ended. But in the original, that was the gist of the conversations that we had, but in the first one, I asked him what happened. He said they were driving down Highway 9 and a guy run run him off the road and he said he run us off the road I never asked who he was with
Starting point is 00:46:12 or anything like that but by what he was saying sounded like somebody else might have been in the vehicle with him he said a guy run us off the road and was pointing a gun at us and he was kind of all over the place. I could tell he had, you know, he was upset about, you know, what occurred in the situation. And he said a guy ended up getting out, pointed a gun at him and some shots were fired and that he had shot back and something about a gentleman that got back in a vehicle and then started shooting again and he had shot again. And that's pretty much the gist of our conversation that we had.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And he told me that there was a woman there, or a female. I don't know if she was with him or somebody else. I suppose they had either a video or a picture of the guy holding the gun up or pointing the gun. And that's pretty much it. And there was never any mention of that he knew this fellow or anything like that? No, no. And I didn't ask him.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And he never brought it up that he knew the guy or didn't know the guy. He just said they were traveling on Highway 9 and a guy run him off the road and was pointing a gun. And I got very little from him initially. Um, you know, when I was talking to him, I can kind of, you know, paint a mental picture of what he's telling me happened. Um, but he said the guy was, um, shot at him and the guy was trying to kill him and he shot back and he believed that the guy was dead. And you just referred him to the officers that were on scene at that
Starting point is 00:48:05 point? Yeah, yeah. I told him he needed to call 911, call the police and he said he hadn't the police were there and I told him he needed to speak with the officers who were on scene. And that was pretty much the gist of the conversation until I called him back and told him that I was not going to be able to come to the scene. And he said that he understood. And from there and I ended a phone conversation and that was it. Okay. Well, Mr. Strickland, I appreciate your time. How official of them. You can almost hear their brains clapping their little hands
Starting point is 00:48:48 together with satisfaction as in, well, that's taken care of now. You might remember that Weldon didn't mention a woman in either of the two calls he had with Brandon Strickland the night of the shooting, at least not in the calls included in the case file. It's an important detail because Brandon seems to be consciously putting on the record that there is a woman who says she
Starting point is 00:49:10 witnessed Scott pointing his gun on Highway 9. And it's this witness that we'll talk about in a future episode, who law enforcement might be relying on almost totally to support their decision to not file charges against Weldon and Bradley in 2024. Did you also notice in that interview how Brandon didn't reiterate the lie that Weldon had told him in that first call made from the crime scene? Did you notice that Brandon didn't tell Allen that Weldon had told him initially that the reason he was on Camp Swamp Road in the first place was because he'd pulled off to fix his trailer and that's when he was ambushed by Scott. This again is another really important detail because did Brandon know that Weldon's version of what happened contained a lie?
Starting point is 00:49:59 And was Brandon not repeating that lie because he wanted a clean record that showed Weldon being consistent with the 911 call when we all know that wasn't true? But it raises this question. If Brandon knew that Weldon's trailer fixing story was a lie or at least not the thing that Weldon said in his 911 call as to why he was following Scott, then why was Brandon continuing to help Weldon? Because why would Weldon lie about the reason for making that turn if all was copacetic? If it was really about him following Scott to tell the police? Another important detail like we said, Brandon had had at least six calls with Weldon at
Starting point is 00:50:43 this point, but Brandon didn't mention those six calls with Weldon at this point, but Brandon didn't mention those additional calls with Weldon to Alan, did he? If the first ones needed to be explained, then certainly the rest of them should have also been explained for the record. Beyond all that, though, did you notice what Brandon didn't put on the official record detailing his calls with Weldon? He didn't put on the record that the night of the shooting, Brandon had told Weldon he had the right people coming to him to take care of him. He left that part out.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Ugh, why am I dancing around this? Brandon lied. It was a lie. He didn't just tell Weldon to talk to the police. He told Weldon not to worry because he was sending help. Again, here is what Brandon said to Allen Jones. And you just referred him to the officers that were on scene at that point? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:37 I told him he needed to call 911, call the police, and he said he hadn't, the police were there. And I told him he needed to speak with the officers who were on scene and that was pretty much the gist of the conversation until I called him back and told him that I was not going to be able to come to the scene and he said that he understood. And from there, and I ended the phone conversation. And again, here is what Brandon allegedly said to Weldon in the phone call he is outlining for Allen. So there won't be an appearance of impropriety. Hey, look, hi.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Look, I got the right people. I got the people coming to meet you. Come, but I need you. I need you to listen to me and understand me for a second, okay? Okay. It might not make sense now, but it'll make sense later. You come out there, okay? Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:52:35 No, I get it now. I understand. That keeps it clean. And what you're telling me is a case, and it's a self-defense thing. Yeah. You're gonna be trying, you're gonna be fine. You just gotta get through the process.
Starting point is 00:52:47 They're gonna ask you questions and probably gonna take you calmly since you haven't talked to you." So, you know, that is not the same thing. And this doesn't even factor in Brandon's call with Weldon from the next morning, when he admits to handpicking a quote-unquote good-old-boy detective for him and that he was working in the shadows the night before. The deputy chief of Horry County Police was asked about what he said in the phone call with his friend and the deputy chief of Horry County Police lied.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Worse than that, this interview between Brandon and Alan Jones was not provided to Jennifer and Mark Tinsley with the rest of the case file. They only learned of it when they discovered Weldon's recorded phone calls hidden deep in folders in the mess of a data dump they got from Horry County. When they asked for the interview, Horry County appears to have slipped it into a drop box, claiming it had been there all along, not realizing that the date of its very recent upload gave them away.
Starting point is 00:53:54 We have so much more to share about Weldon's phone calls with Brandon Strickland and along with their text, which we will share with you in part three of the Weldon calls next week. In the meantime, about two weeks ago, the chairman of the Horry County Council asked Governor Henry McMaster to step in and appoint a special prosecutor to reopen and investigate the homicide investigation because SLED was refusing to do so, according to letters sent
Starting point is 00:54:22 by Council Chair Johnny Gardner and County Administrator Barry Spivey, who has no relation to Scott Spivey. Sled is, however, investigating Brandon Strickland and what he may or may not have done when it comes to the original investigation into Scott Spivey's death. In response to the request, Governor McMaster was basically like, let's wait and see how things shake out. Which fine, we know these guys hate bad PR. And they continue to think that they can manage the messaging like in the olden days, when male power players only had to tell male reporters who looked a lot like them that something was true or okay or not an issue and most of those reporters would be like,
Starting point is 00:55:06 nothing to see here? Sounds good to me. We have to pretty much embarrass them into doing the right thing. So let's do that, shall we? Things are about to get seriously pesky. Remember how we said earlier there were at least four Horry County Police Department officers supporting Weldon behind the scenes. Well, there were at least five. And that fifth one is now under investigation by SLED,
Starting point is 00:55:32 just like his former boss, Brandon Strickland, for his role in the Scotts-Bivey case. On Wednesday, he was fired. Last Thursday evening, reporter and researcher Beth Braden caught something pretty big in the case files. A piece of evidence that unequivocally shows that despite Horry County Police Department's insistence that they did not try to help Weldon escape charges in Scott's killing, they sure did set him up for success in that regard. So quick recap here. Weldon and Bradley were not charged in Scott's death because they claimed to have killed him in self-defense. They claimed they were the victims and not Scott, the man they were chasing for miles. The man they continued to follow onto a road
Starting point is 00:56:17 they didn't need to take while on the phone with 911 warning the dispatcher that a gunfight was coming. At the heart of this case is whether the Stand Your Ground law, the law that protects people from getting charged when they kill or hurt an intruder on their property, protects Weldon and Bradley who, according to the 911 call, knew that Scott had a gun and yet were continuing to follow him. Okay, now let's talk about that smoking gun piece of evidence Beth found in the body camera footage. Beth spent most of the day combing through the footage for us, going frame by frame and
Starting point is 00:56:53 taking careful notes to alert us to parts of the videos we needed to watch first. This is when she saw responding officer Sergeant Demon Vescovich do something incredibly corrupt. Right there on the screen. It was right there in the evidence that Horry County Police Solicitor Jimmy Richardson Sled and the Attorney General's Office all had in their possession this whole time. After speaking with witnesses but not signing the crime scene log and documenting his time behind the taped off crime scene yet. Sergeant Vescovy went over to Weldon and Bradley who were sitting on the trailer Weldon had been pulling. It was 6.35pm. Weldon had spoken to Brandon Strickland a few minutes earlier
Starting point is 00:57:37 and was on the phone with his lawyer Ken Moss. Scott was dead in his truck about 30 yards away. Sergeant Vescovy instructed Weldon to tell Ken that he was there. That Damon Vescovy was there. Damon, as it turns out, is the husband of Jan Powell Vescovy, a councilwoman in Loras who ran for mayor not too long ago. Damon took the phone from Weldon and walked toward his vehicle. Here's what you can hear from Damon's side of the conversation. Note, he does not ask Weldon for his name. I think you're okay as far as what I've heard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Our detectives were already out so they're coming up here with that thing because the guys. Let me ask you, who you on the phone with? Ken? Yeah. Tell them it's me, it's Damon. Hey, Ken, it's Damon here. Damon?
Starting point is 00:58:42 Viscovy. Damon Viscovy? Viscovy. He said to tell you it was him. Do you want to talk to him? It's Damon here. Damon? The Scovie. Damon Scovie? The Scovie. He said to tell you it was him. Do you want to talk to him? Yeah. Here. Ken, it's Damon.
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's Damon's husband. Yeah, I'm here for a separate. Yeah, are you coming out here? Yeah. Okay, you know how long you'll be? I got you. It sounds like self-defense. And I got witnesses here that are back at another house.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. Um, it sounds like self defense. And I got witnesses here that are backing it up as well. Just so you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Well, see how these come is blocked off. If you'll stay by if you're adamant coming out here, if you just hang on a minute, I'll let them know you're okay as far as I've heard. And then he gets on the phone with the suspect's lawyer and chuckles about it, saying quote, let me get control of this whole debacle. But that's not even the bad part, y'all. After returning the phone to Weldon, Vescovi went back to his vehicle and made a phone call. Here is how that went.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Hey, are you coming up here? Well, you suck. Who you sending? Who do I need to call? Lemp? Okay, sorry. I was giving your name. Road rage turn self-defense 10-7. Yeah, alright, bye bye. To watch the full video of this interaction and see for yourself what Vescovich did, go to Lunashark's YouTube page or any of our social media accounts. So who was he calling? Unclear. Was it Brandon? Did he think Brandon Strickland was coming to
Starting point is 01:00:54 the scene? Or was it another officer? Brandon Strickland's attorney, by the way, maintains that Alan Jones was always the on-call detective for that night and that Brandon did not send Alan to the scene as Brandon himself says in a recorded call with Weldon that Brandon didn't seem to know existed. Brandon's lawyer says that that was all just Brandon engaging in braggadocio. But let's say Alan Jones wasn't the on-call detective
Starting point is 01:01:22 that night and frankly, Brandon Strickland has no credit at the True Sunlight store, so we're not putting much stock in the value of his word. Then was this call Viscovi contacting the on-call detective in the assumption that that on-call detective was handling it? Anyway, after that call, Viscovi took photos of Weldon's and Bradley's licenses on his
Starting point is 01:01:46 phone then texted someone in his contacts. And this is where it got dirty. Vescovich then took his notebook and rotated it so it would be horizontal on his driver's seat. He took out a pen and began writing something in big letters. When he lifted the notebook, his body camera briefly caught the page he had just written on. Beth froze the screen and she zoomed in, and she could not believe what she was seeing. The note Viscavi had written in big text said,
Starting point is 01:02:18 act like a victim with the word camera written under it. Vescovian then walked that note over to Weldon and showed it to him. Weldon's eyes darted to the notebook and then around. Act like a victim. Act like the thing you need to be in order for the Stand Your Ground law to apply. Self-defense. You, Weldon. You were the victim. Now, why would Vescovich do that? Was he passing on a message from his conversation with Weldon's attorney? That wouldn't make sense, right? Weldon's attorney was on the phone with Weldon and could have just told his client that directly. And he did according to a recorded conversation Weldon had with Bradley later. So did the person Vescovich called right before writing the note tell him to do this?
Starting point is 01:03:06 Did he have a conversation earlier with Brandon Strickland? Or did someone else with authority and influence in the agency mention that Weldon was a friend of the agency? Or did word just spread among the lower ranks? Did Damon Vescovy, knowing that this was a friend of the police department, knowing what the Horry County police culture was like when it came to friends, and being eminently aware that he was a middle-aged patrol officer whom sources have told us has had performance problems in the past. A police officer who did not have the latitude to buck the system, but was now presented
Starting point is 01:03:42 with an opportunity to do something that would get him maybe a wink and a nod for being a team player with the big guys. Did he do this to get that informal recognition from the number two guy at the agency? Was this an opportunity to be part of the cool kids at the agency? The Sunday fun day crowd of hand-picked friends from the office who would hang out at Brandon Strickland's pool on the weekends. Or, again, was he told to keep an eye on things for Weldon, and this is just him doing that? Whatever Vescovy's reasoning, he just told Weldon how this needed to play out.
Starting point is 01:04:21 But if Weldon acted like a victim, which, God, give him an Oscar for this because he has taken this role seriously, then it allowed Horry County to rule this a justified killing. Even though Weldon's call with 911 outs him as a man who seemed to seek out a gunfight, even though you can clearly hear Bradley, after the two had sent 40 rounds towards Scott and his truck, saying, "'God damn it, Weldon. Why couldn't you effing leave him alone?'
Starting point is 01:04:53 Act like a victim on camera and you've got yourself a future without a murder or manslaughter trial. Act like a victim and the witnesses around you will use that to fill in the blanks about whatever they saw. Act like a victim and maybe that will help keep Scott Spivey's family from being able to sue you. If not, it'll at least delay things. It'll keep them from knowing where they took his body. It'll keep them from getting the investigation case file as quickly. And all I can say is get ready. body. It'll keep them from getting the investigation case file as quickly.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And all I can say is get ready, because all these agencies who have been dragging their feet on things, hoping that this case will go away, are about to snap into action as though that was always their plan. They're also probably really annoyed to find out that it was this pesky team of women who were the ones who found this very damning piece of evidence that shows very clearly that the corruption they've continued to say wasn't there was actually caught on camera. And they're not just annoyed because we exposed them, but because it didn't fit their narrative of why they fired Vescovy. On Wednesday afternoon, after Sled questioned Vescovy, we got word that Horry County
Starting point is 01:06:11 Police was planning a press conference. We kicked into action because we knew what they were about to do. They were going to whitewash the whole thing and act like they're doing a proactively noble thing. So we posted about Vescovy all over social media to preempt them. What we didn't expect was for them to do it anyway, and worse, to take credit for finding the evidence. Their evidence. At the conference, Police Chief Chris Leonhart told the public this, quote, Since March 2025, when HCPD requested a review of the incident, HCPD has been cooperating with SLED in the state agency's potential misconduct investigation.
Starting point is 01:07:00 A simultaneous HCPDIA investigation is also being conducted in April 2025 as a part of the Incident and Case Review, Law Enforcement, Identified Conduct, Unbecoming of an Officer as defined by HCPD General Orders, as well as a violation of General Horry County Employee Conduct Guidelines. as well as a violation of General Horry County employee conduct guidelines. After the conference, WBTW reporter Adriana Lawrence asked the chief what specifically led to Vescovy's termination. And he didn't have an answer, except to say it's under investigation. Then he told her this didn't happen on his watch. Anyway, y'all know that's a lie.
Starting point is 01:07:45 In March 2025, the FBI and Sled were already aware of what had been found in the case file. They knew before Horry County, but Horry County police went and took credit for the review of the case, a review that was likely going to happen with or without them. But no, they wanted the public to believe that this was them being honorable and proactive,
Starting point is 01:08:12 instead of reactive and left with no choice. And boy, did they do that again, because Beth Braden identified conduct unbecoming of an officer. Horry County Police learned of it from Sled and then they had to act upon it. That's not nothing, but it's not the truth. And that's important. These guys need to be honest with the public.
Starting point is 01:08:36 It's time for them to put actual pants on and act with integrity because they're running out of cover right now. In the coming weeks, we'll talk about what else we've been finding out in this case file including Weldon's ever-changing story about what happened that evening on Camp Swamp Road. Plus, we'll talk about what the witnesses saw and what they didn't see. And we'll share more about what we've found out about the legislator who just two days
Starting point is 01:09:07 after the shooting allegedly offered his help to turn Weldon into an untouchable hero, along with the other big names that came up behind the scenes. Until then, stay tuned, stay pesky, and stay in the sunlight. True Sunlight is a Lunashark production created by me, Mandy Matney. Co-hosted and reported by journalist Liz Farrell. Research support provided by Beth Braden. Audio production support provided by Jamie Hoffman. Learn more about our mission and membership at lunasharkmedia.com. Interruptions provided by Luna and Joe Pesky.
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