Murder In America - EP. 82 UTAH - The Hi-Fi Murders

Episode Date: September 23, 2022

WARNING: This episode is especially gruesome. In the 1970's, a robbery gone wrong escalated into a torturous hostage situation that ended in a series of disturbing murders. The victims were random, an...d the location of the event? An audio store. This is the story of the Hi-Fi Murders, and you're listening to MURDER IN AMERICA. - Get your dose of MICRODOSE GUMMIES (available nationwide!) at https://www.microdose.com and use code "MIA" for FREE SHIPPING and 30% OFF your first order! _ Try HelloFresh today- America's #1 Meal Kit! Just go to https://www.HelloFresh.com/state65 and use code STATE65 for 65% off plus free shipping! - This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com and use our custom code MIA for 30% off your first month of easy online therapy! - Stay Connected:  Join the Murder in America fam in our free Facebook Community for a behind-the-scenes look, more insights and current events in the true crime world:https://www.facebook.com/groups/4365229996855701 If you want even more Murder in America bonus content, including ad-free episodes, come join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderinamerica Instagram: http://instagram.com/murderinamerica/ Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/people/Murder-in-America-Podcast/100086268848682/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderInAmerica TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theparanormalfiles and https://www.tiktok.com/@courtneybrowen Feeling spooky? Follow Colin as he travels state to state (and even country to country!) investigating claims of extreme paranormal activity and visiting famous haunted locations on "The Paranormal Files": https://www.youtube.com/c/TheParanormalFilesOfficialChannel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:04:05 by utilizing disturbing audio and sound effects. Trigger warnings from the stories we cover may include violence, rape, murder, and offenses against children. This podcast is not for everyone. You have been warned. It's December 20, 1973. In a major film called Magnum Force, has just been released in theaters around America.
Starting point is 00:04:29 The film stars Clint Eastwood, who plays Inspector Harry Callahan, a man on the hunt for a group of vigilante police officers that are murdering people in San Francisco. In Ogden, Utah, hundreds of people pile into the movie theaters and anxiously eat their popcorn as the movie intensifies. In one scene, a pimp forces Drano down a prostitute's throat. and she instantly dies from the toxic chemicals.
Starting point is 00:04:59 While most people in the theater are disturbed by the scene, there's one man watching who is inspired. In fact, he would return to that theater at least three more times just to watch that specific scene. There's a famous saying that life imitates art. And in this case, the man watching the film decided to carry out his own version of Magnum Force against a group of people inside of a store in Ogden, Utah. But his imitation of this film was far worse than what was shown on the big screen.
Starting point is 00:05:36 In fact, the murders inside of the hi-fi store would go on to be one of the most disturbing hostage situations in United States history. This is the story of the hi-fi murders. I'm Courtney Browne. And I'm Colin Brown. And you're listening to Murdoch. murder in America. Story starts on April 22nd, 1974 in Ogden, Utah.
Starting point is 00:07:07 There, at about 6 p.m., 16-year-old Courtney Naesbitt was walking back to his car after finishing up some errands. But before leaving, he decided to go inside the local audio store called the Hi-Fi Shop to thank his friend Stanley for letting him park in their lot. You see, 20-year-old Stanley Walker was an employee at the Hi-Fi store, and Courtney knew that it was closing soon, so he walked right in thinking nothing was out of the ordinary. But as soon as he stepped through those doors, Courtney Nasebitt's life would change forever. There, inside of the store, was indeed his friend Stanley, along with his co-worker, 19-year-old
Starting point is 00:07:45 Michelle Ansley, but they weren't returning records to their sleeves or turning off equipment for the night. They were right in the middle of a robbery. One of the first things Courtney notices, besides the two unknown males inside of the store, is the terrified look on Stanley and Michelle's faces. They are frozen in fear, with eyes wide, and suddenly they all turn in Courtney's direction. No one expected him to walk in the store that evening, especially the two robbers. And as soon as they saw Courtney, they started yelling at him while brandishing their weapons. I'm sure there were a million things running through Courtney's head at the time.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And suddenly, he remembers the man standing outside, waiting by his car. It soon became clear that these three men were here to rob the high-fi store. As for Michelle Ansley, it's unclear exactly what she was thinking at this time, but I can imagine she was regretting picking up that shift that afternoon. Yes, she worked at the hi-fi shop, but she wasn't originally. originally on the schedule that day. Michelle had only been working at the store as a bookkeeper and cashier for about a week at that point. And when her co-worker asked her to take their shift, she happily agreed. Michelle also had her entire life ahead of her. The previous night, she had
Starting point is 00:09:12 just announced to her mother, Laura, that she was engaged and was planning on getting married that upcoming August. The owner of the high-fi shop, Brent Richards, had hired Michelle because she had a bubbly personality that naturally attracted people to her. She was exactly the kind of employee the shop was looking for. Michelle was also beautiful, and the owner liked to have pretty girls working because he knew it brought in more business. Stanley Walker was also supposed to be off work that day, but he had to fill in for the store owner who was out of town in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Stanley was a college student who attended Weber State College. and was active in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, where he was an elder. He also coached basketball at the church. Brent, the owner of Hi-Fi, really liked Stan because he was good with the customers and always had a smile on his face. He was also very skilled with electronics. Courtney Naismet, who walked in on the robbery, was a sophomore at Ogden High School, and at 16 years old, he was nearly six feet tall and very muscular. Courtney also loved to fly airplanes, and earlier in the day he had to be able to be.
Starting point is 00:10:22 had been at his flying lessons at the Ogden Municipal Airport. Courtney had been obsessed with flying ever since he was a little boy. He started by collecting model airplanes in kindergarten. Like many 16-year-olds, he had big dreams for his future, and if you asked what he wanted to be when he grew up, he always replied, I want to be an aeronautical engineer. The three young victims woke up that morning having no idea that their lives were about to be changed forever. But reality quickly set in when 21-year-old Dale Selby-Pierre and 19-year-old William Andrews ordered the three victims down into the basement, while 19-year-old Keith Leon Roberts patiently waited in the getaway car outside. Surprisingly, all three men were in the U.S. Air Force, and they were stationed.
Starting point is 00:11:15 at the Hill Air Force Base outside of Ogden, Utah. They had come to the high-fi shop with the intention of robbing the store, but what happened that night became far worse than what anyone could have imagined. Shortly after holding the three victims at gunpoint, Dale and William ordered them downstairs into the basement, where they were ordered to get down on the floor. While one of the men continued to hold them at gunpoint, the other tied their hands and feet.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And once they were secured, the men made their way back upstairs to the store. The basement was dimly lit with only a single light bulb, and Stanley, Courtney, and Michelle anxiously waited for what would happen next. The three continued to lay on their stomachs, unable to move, and all they could hear were the sounds of the men's feet shuffling across the floor above them as they loaded thousands of dollars worth of merchandise into the getaway car outside. Hopefully, best case scenario, the men would take what they wanted
Starting point is 00:12:24 and leave the store. But as you'll find out, that is not what happens on this fateful night. Shortly before 8 p.m., Courtney's mother, Carol Naysbitt, was sitting at home and began to grow worried about her son. It was getting late and Courtney was supposed to be home. by now. After all, he was only running a few errands and then coming right back. So she decided to grab her car keys and go out looking for him. First, she drives through the Weber State College parking lot, hoping to see his Brown Buick, but no luck. She eventually returns home and calls a few of Courtney's friends to see if they had seen him, but no one had. By now, she was growing even more worried, so she decided to head out again and drive by where Courtney was running
Starting point is 00:13:07 errands near 2-309 Washington Boulevard. Another worried parent was Stanley's dad, Orrin Walker, who knew it was past closing time for the store. Knowing that Stanley should have been home by now, he too drove towards the high-fi shop to make sure his son was okay. This loving act by parents would end up changing both of their lives forever. Now, Stanley's father, Orin, was actually the first to arrive at the store that night to look for his son. Once he arrived, he opened up the back door of the shop and slowly walked inside. It was eerily quiet and Stanley was nowhere in sight. Then suddenly, before he could even realize what was happening, two men were standing in front of him, pointing a gun in his direction, and they quickly ordered him down into the basement.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I can't even imagine what it was like when Stanley and his dad, Oren, locked eyes for the first time down in that basement. Now both of them were in the hands of these robbers, who seemed to be getting more and more anxious as the night went on. Once Orrin was tied up, the robbers, Dale and William, started to argue about what they were going to do with the hostages. There were only supposed to be two victims involved, and now two more people, Courtney and Orin, had stumbled into their master plan. During the argument about what they should do, Dale lost his cool and shot a bullet into the basement wall. William quickly confronts him, saying,
Starting point is 00:14:37 What the hell are you doing? The tension was running high, with both the robbers and the hostages. And during the argument, Michelle interrupts them by screaming out, I'm just 19, I don't want to die. Hoping to de-escalate the situation, Orin tells the men, quote,
Starting point is 00:14:58 Go ahead and take whatever you want. We won't tell the police. who you are." End quote. But it was already far too late. The victim's fate had been sealed. Shortly after this, Carol pulls her family's station wagon into the parking lot and approaches the building.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But as soon as she steps inside, she is greeted with a gun in her face. What are you doing here? William asks her. Stunned, Carol assures him that she's just there to try to find her. son. Courtney, who is still tied up downstairs, hears his mother's voice and screams out, God damn it! And soon enough, Carol would join the rest of the four hostages downstairs in the basement, where she too would be tied up on the floor. The five hostages now lay in silence, not speaking a word. Now, like we mentioned earlier, these men were in the Air Force,
Starting point is 00:15:58 and the Hill Air Force Base, where they lived, had advertised a movie that would be playing at the bass's theater. The movie was called Magnum Force, a sequel to Dirty Harry, which starred Hollywood actor Clint Eastwood. In one graphic scene, a pimp is shown murdering a prostitute by forcing her to drink Drano. And almost immediately after ingesting the fluid, the prostitute drops dead. And it was a known fact that Dale absolutely loved this movie, and that scene in particular. Something about the way Drano was able to kill the woman so quickly fascinated him. Little did he know, however, that that's not how it works. Ingesting Drano can be deadly, but it usually doesn't work instantly, and he would soon learn that the hard way.
Starting point is 00:16:40 With all of their victims tied up and secured, the two sadistic men could now execute their evil plan. Dale pulls out a jug of Drano in a green cup that he had brought with him. The victims watched as he poured the blue liquid into a cup and started walking in their direction. First, he stands in front of Carol and he tells her, It's time for a cocktail. I don't drink alcohol, she tells him. But right when those words escaped her lips, Dale grabs her by her hair, pulls her head back and says,
Starting point is 00:17:19 It's a mixture of vodka and medication that'll make you go to sleep. He then puts the cup up to her lips and pours the drino down her throat. But as soon as he does this, Carol knows that this is not vodka. As soon as the liquid touches her skin, she felt an indescribable burning sensation, and she immediately began to cough and gag as the liquid regurgitated from her mouth and nose. Her son Courtney watched in horror as his mother choked and struggled to breathe. and soon enough he would be next. Dale grabs Courtney by the hair and forces him into a seated position.
Starting point is 00:18:03 He then leans his head back and as the cup gets closer to his face, Courtney can feel his nose and eyes start to burn. It's at that time when he realizes that Dale is feeding them chemicals, but there's nothing he can do. The liquid is forced down his throat, and as soon as it ends, enters his body, he begins to cough and vomit, just like his mother. But with every cough, Courtney could feel bubbles forming in his throat, making it incredibly
Starting point is 00:18:35 difficult to breathe. He could also feel the chemicals start to drip down into his stomach, which caused such immense pain Courtney started convulsing on the ground. And to make matters worse, the skin around his mouth was burning so badly that he could feel open sores start to form. As Courtney and his mother Carol were convulsing on the floor of the basement, Dale turned to Stanley. He was also lifted into a seated position and forced to drink the liquid.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Stanley coughed violently, trying to spit it out. Dale then repeated this process with Michelle and then Orrin. And Orin had actually worked with chemicals before, and he knew that this liquid was toxic. And at first, he thought that it was maybe hydrochloric acid. Knowing this, Orrin pretended to drink the liquid when Dale forced it into his mouth. But when he walked away to pour more, he slowly let it ooze out. Hearing the other victims cough and spit, he too started to do this so the men would think he swallowed what was given to him.
Starting point is 00:19:36 The sixth pour was given to Stanley again. This gulp made him violently vomit, and soon the entire basement was filled with sounds of coughing and spitting. And now we're going to take an outbreak. So we've been talking a lot about microdosing on this podcast, but do you know what microdosing is? Microdosing is basically taking an entry-level dose of THC, and it has so many different benefits. Microdosing can help you enjoy the moment more. It can give you a creative boost. It can help relieve pain and anxiety, and it can even help you sleep better.
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Starting point is 00:21:43 blockages when poured down a drain by dissolving and decomposing masses that may be blocking your pipes. When you pour Drano down your sink, a series of reactions take place that is meant to clear a clog. First, the lie in Drano decomposes physical matter in your pipes. Then, aluminum in the product reacts with the lie, causing the temperature in your pipes to reach near boiling to help speed up decomposition. Finally, the lie forms a soapy substance that dissolves the clogged material and creates room for water to wash the clog away. End quote. In the website goes on to say that Drano is so toxic that some plumbers don't even recommend you using them in your pipes because it can cause severe damage. And if it's doing that to pipes, I can't even imagine the amount of damage it can cause
Starting point is 00:22:40 your flesh and organs. And as time goes by, down in that dark basement, these five victims are all feeling the effects of these toxic chemicals eating away at their inside. And again, Dale and William assumed that they would be dead in a matter of minutes, just like what happened in Magnum Force. And to pass the time, they began rummaging through the boxes in the basement, looking for valuables. For the next few minutes, the robbers ran up and down the stairs, and the victims could hear the sound of a car and doors opening and closing. They used this opportunity to try and loosen their restraints, but the skin around their wrists and ankles was nearly rubbed raw. The men eventually returned to the basement and started carrying boxes of records up to the
Starting point is 00:23:25 car waiting outside. Courtney tried to listen to their conversations, but he couldn't hear what they were saying. He could hear, however, the sounds of toilet paper, and he realized that the men were wiping down the shelves to remove any fingerprints that had been left behind. After taking all the items they wanted and wiping down the area thoroughly, they came back down to the basement. There was a sound of snapping, and Courtney saw that the two men had put on rubber gloves. What were they about to do next? They had already been tortured, and these men had already loaded thousands of dollars of merchandise into their van. The sound of rubber gloves meant only one thing. They came back down here to finish the job.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Dale and William first walked over to Oren and stole his wallet out of his back pocket. They also took the gold watch around his wrist. They then took Courtney and Stanley's wallets and Michelle in Carol's purses. Michelle's engagement ring and Carol's Rolex and necklace. And all while this was happening, the sound of deep, painful coughing continued to echo throughout the basement. And it was at this point when the men realized that their Drano plan hadn't worked. Now, all they're left with is five people struggling to breathe.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So Dale and William began discussing what they're going to do next. Dale suggests that they murder them, but William was hesitant. According to the book Victim on the Other Side of Murder by Gary Kinder, William said, quote, I can't do it, man, I'm scared, end quote. But to Dale, there was no turning back, so he told William to go wait in the car and give him 30 minutes to handle it. Now, there are some sources that say that William stuck around for this. next part, but others say he went to the van. But regardless, what happened next was horrific. Dale walks over to Carol as she lays on the floor and he raises his gun to her head and pulls the trigger.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Her son Courtney was next to her, watching in horror as his mother bled out. Next, Dale walks over to Stanley and shoots him in the head as well. Then Courtney and Orin. With the four victims bleeding out, Michelle was the only victim left. But Dale had other plans for her before he killed her. Frozen in fear,
Starting point is 00:26:01 Michelle is forced into the corner of the basement, where Dale removes her clothes and brutally rapes her. After the rape, Dale escorted Michelle to the bathroom where he allowed her to urinate. The only item of clothing she wore were her white socks.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Her clothes were still full it in the corner where she was violated. She was scared and pleaded with Dale to let her go. She even asked him if he would take her with them when they left the store. He didn't answer her and escorted her back to where the others were on the basement floor. Dale then told Michelle to get back down on her stomach and she did what she was told. I can't imagine the fear she was feeling in this moment, knowing she was about to face the same fate as the others. But then Dale goes back upstairs. I'm sure Michelle felt a huge wave of relief, knowing her at attackers were leaving. And as she laid on the floor, she could hear Orrin's labored breathing
Starting point is 00:26:52 next to her. Michelle quickly elbows him in his side, making sure he was still conscious. Orange slowly opened one eye, letting Michelle know he was alive, but he didn't utter a word, and he quickly went back to playing dead on the floor. In that moment, there was a brief sense of hope, but all of that would suddenly disappear when she heard Dale's footsteps coming back down the stairs. Suddenly, he appears out of the darkness, and he's now standing over Michelle's naked body. And without warning, he fires a bullet into her head, killing her instantly. Orrin heard her moan after the bullet penetrated her skull, but now all was quiet in the dark basement once again. After shooting all five victims, Dale takes a step back to look at what he just
Starting point is 00:27:38 did. And when he does so, he notices that Orrin was still alive. Presumably out of bullets, Dale grabs a piece of wire and wraps it around his neck, pulling it up with great force. Orrin could feel his airway closing and the wire tightening around his throat. When suddenly, his head dropped to the floor and he rolled over on his side. Dale must have realized that this wasn't working. So he moves on to his next idea. As Oran is lying on the floor, Dale walks over to the side. of the room and grabs a ballpoint pen. He then walks back over to Orrin and places it in his ear canal.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Then Dale lifts his leg up in the air and stomps down on the pen as hard as he could. All while Orrin is still alive, he feels the pen pierced through his ear canal and exit the side of his throat. Afterwards, Dale is now sure that all five victims were dead, so he runs up the stairs, gets into the getaway car, and all three men take off down the road away from the high-fi shop. The trio made it out with $24,000 worth of equipment. What they didn't know at the time was that Courtney, Oren, and Carol were still alive. Unfortunately, Michelle and Stanley were still alive.
Starting point is 00:29:12 dead. With the men gone from the store, Carol turned over onto her back. Her breathing was shallow. Courtney lifted his head and looked in the direction of the basement stairs. His hands and feet were still tied, but he twisted his body in a way so that he could attempt to slither towards the bottom of the staircase. And now we're going to take an ad break. HelloFresh is one of Courtney and I's favorite products and services in the world. With Hello Fresh, you get farm fresh pre-portion ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstep. Hello Fresh is here to make your hectic fall week nights a little easier and a lot more delicious. They're quick and easy meals, including 20-minute meals, low prep and easy cleanup options. Take the stress out of meal time with time-saving,
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Starting point is 00:30:37 again, that's hellofresh.com slash state 65 and use code state 65 for 65% off plus free shipping. HelloFresh, America's number one meal kit. Now, back to today's story. For the next few hours, the town of Ogden, Utah was completely unaware that the city's most infamous crime had just taken place. Courtney had been too weak to make it up the stairs to call for help. But luckily, after a few hours, Joyce Walker, who was Stanley's mother and Orrin's wife, began to be began to worry about her son and husband. She had woken up and realized that they never came home. So she and her other son, Lynn, got into the car and made their way to the hi-fi shop to look for them. Upon arrival, the two get out of their car and walked around.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Lynn Walker buzzed the back door of the shop when suddenly he heard the sound of his father yelling for them to call the police. Lynn quickly kicked the door in and what they saw next would forever be ingrained into their minds. Stanley was dead on the floor of the basement. and Orrin was barely clinging to life. Joyce and Lynn quickly called the police, and soon enough, the hi-fi shop was swarmed with first responders. When the police made their way inside, they almost immediately noticed a man with matted and bloody hair
Starting point is 00:31:58 and what appeared to be a pen sitting behind his ear. It was Orrin Walker, who quickly informed them that the other four victims had been shot as well. They found Courtney near the bottom of the same. staircase, and it appeared as if he was trying to speak, but the police could tell he was gasping for air, believing he had been shot in the lung. An officer reached down and ripped Courtney's shirt open to cover the hole in his chest, but they only discovered that his chest had collapsed. There was a single hole in the back of his head, and they rolled him over on his side thinking
Starting point is 00:32:37 he was drowning in his own blood. Scanning the rest of the room, they knew that the the other three victims were likely dead, which was true for Stanley and Michelle. Carol, however, still had a faint pulse. As this was all happening, Oren was anxiously running around the basement looking for tools. When the officer asked what he was doing, Oren pointed to Stanley and told the police that that was his son, and he was searching for something to remove Stanley's restraints. heart-breakingly, the officer had to inform him that his son was dead, and there was nothing they could do for him. They then instructed Orrin to go upstairs, and that's when the officers noticed that the pen was not behind Orrin's ear, but rather inside of it. And the only reason
Starting point is 00:33:31 they noticed this was because the pen was literally moving up and down as he breathed. And I think that's just wild that Orrin was clearly in excruciating pain, but all he was worried about was his son, Stanley. According to the first responders, the odor in the basement was overwhelming. A lingering chemical smell filled the air and made the men dizzy. When the medical staff arrived at the scene, Courtney, Carol, and Orrin were whisked away to St. Benedict's Hospital, where Carol would eventually succumb to her injuries. Courtney Naisbitt was fighting for his life and the ability to breathe. An emergency tracheectomy was performed, and as he struggled to take deep breaths, it was noted that bloody foam was coming through the tube. After being shot in the head and forced to drink Drano, it was a miracle he was alive.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Courtney's father and Carol's husband, Dr. Byron Nasbit, arrived at the hospital that night and said, I was devastated. I've got a family of six, and two of them, a third of my family, are wiped out. My wife is dead and my son is not expected to live. I don't know. What do you do with something like that? Grief is bad. Grief is a terrible thing that you have to confront. With Stanley Michelle and Carol all dead, the police were now dealing with a triple homicide. And while Oren and Courtney fought for their lives in the hospital, the Ogden Police Department was hard at work trying to find whoever did this. And the brutality of the crime quickly got out and stunned the people of Ogden, Utah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 People were now afraid to leave their homes, wondering if the killers would strike again. The panic throughout the community made the police react quickly, and they were using every available resource. 24 hours after the crime, the police in Ogden were busy interviewing witnesses, following up on phone tips, and tracking down every possible lead that could get them closer to the men who committed this heinous crime. The lead detective was a man named Deloy White, and after looking at the crime scene, it was clear to him that he was dealing with organized criminals, who had planned out the robbery in advance. In an article for Deserate News, Deloy says, quote, They knew exactly what they were looking for before they went into the store.
Starting point is 00:35:58 They also knew there would be at least two people in the store, and they would have to be killed. they did no more and no less than what they had planned. End quote. The surviving victim, Orrin Walker, was also able to help the police with solving the crime. Orin told police that the two men responsible were African American. Orin described one of the men as shorter and quiet, but when he spoke, it sounded like a Caribbean accent. Oran also described a cream or yellow-colored van that was parked behind the high-fi shop when he arrived to look for his son, Stanley. County Prosecutor Robert Newee spent a lot of time at Orrin's bedside gathering as much information as he could
Starting point is 00:36:37 and relaying it back to Detective White. Despite gathering a description from Oren, police were still at a roadblock with the case. When the information was made public regarding the description of the men in the van, a lot of tips rolled through the police station. But they wouldn't get a big break until Tuesday, April 23rd, 1974, at 5 p.m. when two boys were rummaging around in a dumpster at the Hill Air Force Base looking for soda bottles. As the two go into the dumpster, they find the purse of Michelle Ansley and Carol Naisbitt, as well as a few driver's licenses of the victims.
Starting point is 00:37:10 The boys immediately called the police, who were then dispatched out to the Air Force Base. When investigators arrived and began to comb through the dumpster, they noticed a crowd of people had gathered around to watch the investigation unfold, and police kept a close eye on the crowd as they searched for evidence. They figured that their killers would most likely keep a close eye on the investigation, and that they might even be in the crowd that gathered around. And as they closely watched, they noticed two men that matched the description of the killers. And not only did they look like their guys,
Starting point is 00:37:51 but they were also acting very strangely among the crowd of people. George Throckmorton, a forensic crime scene specialist, was sifting through the dumpster with a fellow detective when a light bulb went off. He recognized one of the men as Dale Pierre, and it turns out, Dale had a history with the Ogden Police Department. George even points to the barracks next to the dumpster and tells his coworker, quote, where Dale Pierre lives. End quote.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It turns out, the police in Ogden, Utah, were well aware of who he was. In fact, Dale Selby Pierre was a suspect and another homicide involving an auto crime ring and police had been dispatched
Starting point is 00:38:37 to the barracks before. Dale was originally from Trinidad and Tobago and had moved to the United States just a few years prior to the high-fi murders. He had been in trouble throughout his life,
Starting point is 00:38:48 and he was known to be a pathological liar with a hot temper. And shortly after moving here, Dale joined the Air Force. But on the side, he got into the business of stealing cars. And what he would do was go to a car lot, asked to take the car on a test drive. And while he was out, he would duplicate the keys. And then a few days later, the car would be gone from the lot. And he was in this business with several guys from the Air Force, and everyone knew that this is
Starting point is 00:39:13 what he did. And it wasn't really a big deal to anyone until one day, when Dale allegedly stole a car from someone on the base named Sergeant Edward Jefferson. In that story, it all started on October 1, 1973, when Dale went over to Edward Jefferson's apartment. I wasn't able to figure out what Dale was doing there, but when he left, Jefferson noticed that his car keys were missing. Now, everyone on the base knew that Dale stole keys, so it was very obvious what had happened. Dale pretended to search for the keys with Jefferson, but it wasn't until the following day when he miraculously found them. It's believed that Jefferson confronted Dale about duplicating his keys while they were missing. And afterwards, the two got into a pretty heated argument.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Jefferson even ended up changing the locks to his apartment and he switched out his car's ignition so that Dale couldn't steal anything from him. But just days after this incident, on October 4, 1973, Edward Jefferson would be found brutally murdered inside of his apartment. When police arrived on scene, they found him on the couch with a stab wound deep in his face. Based on the evidence,
Starting point is 00:40:39 they believed it was from a military-style bayonet. Now, everyone knew that Dale Peelette. Pierre was responsible for his murder, even the police. But when they questioned him, he denied everything. He even offered an alibi, but it wasn't able to be verified. A search warrant was eventually issued at Dale's apartment in the barracks, but they weren't able to find the weapon or any evidence that could connect him to the murder. And with that, Edward Jefferson's case went cold.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Dale Pierre had a dark past, and detectives knew deep in their hearts he was responsible for the high-fi murders. As for Dale's accomplice, William Andrew, he grew up in Virginia and seemed to have a normal childhood. He joined the Air Force in 1973 for helicopter mechanics and was placed in the barracks with Dale Pier. The two became good friends, which was odd because many of the men in the barracks didn't care for Dale.
Starting point is 00:41:39 They said he had a temper and could be extremely moody. When William and Dale started hanging out, many of William's friends drifted away from him. Their commanding officer also noted that William was a follower and Dale was the one who liked control. Hearing this, the police ended up questioning the 1550th organizational maintenance squadron's first sergeant, James Stevens, about Dale and William. The police wanted to know a number of things. For one, if Dale was short and spoke with a Caribbean accent, they wanted to know if William owned a light blue van,
Starting point is 00:42:10 and if the two men had been spending a lot of time together recently. Sergeant Stevens relayed as much information as he could about Dale. He also informed them that he personally had come to the 1550th Squadron to restore discipline there. He had been briefed about the Jefferson murder investigation when he arrived around November 1973 and how the Air Force investigators believed Dale was a murderer. The commanding officer, Colonel John Newbauer, even told him, I lie awake at night worrying about that guy. I just wonder who he's going to kill next.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Little did they know, his next murder would completely devastate the town of Ogden. While police are gathering all of this information, they're slowly building their case against Dale and William. And eventually, they would obtain a search warrant for the men's barracks. When the warrant came through, police and Throckmorton headed to the 351 barracks. where 475 men were housed. The men who lived in the barracks were trained to maintain helicopters used for airborne paramedics. Throckmorton, who had been assigned to search Dale's room, would ultimately find a key piece of evidence in tying these two men to the high-fi murders.
Starting point is 00:43:32 It was around 1 a.m. when Throckm. began moving and dragging furniture around Dale's room to peel back the car. carpeting from the floor. One of the officers in the room joked that they wouldn't find stereo equipment under a rug. But that didn't stop Throck Morton from continuously moving furniture to each
Starting point is 00:43:54 corner so that he could peel back every section of the carpet that he could. And so far they had found some interesting evidence, like a brochure of a list with all of Ogden's stereo stores. The high-fi shop was
Starting point is 00:44:10 the first store written on the list. They also found a pair of surgical gloves hidden in an Andrew's closet and plastic wrapping from records with the high-fi shop's label right on top. However, they didn't find any weapons and there was no sign of missing stereo equipment. But Throckmorton wasn't going to give up just yet. He knew there was evidence in Dale's room. He just had to find it. And what do you know, on the last corner of the carpeting that he pulled back, he found a white envelope sitting in between the carpet and the carpet pad. Throck Morton examined the envelope and opened it up.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Inside was a folded piece of paper that was a lease agreement between Dale Pierre and a storage facility that was only a few blocks away from the high-fi shop. And he knew right then and there that that was where they would find the stereo equipment. In addition, Dale had rented Unit 2 the day before the murders. Upon finding this, Throck Morton turned to the other officer in the room and said, Bingo, we got him. After this discovery, officers moved to maintain a search warrant for Unit 2. Although it was after 2 a.m., the warrant was granted quickly,
Starting point is 00:45:37 and everyone involved in the search of the barracks headed to the Wasatch storage to see if the door of the storage unit lifted. They knew that the unveiling of this unit would be the key to solving the crime. County prosecutor Deloy White led the police officers to the storage unit. 30 officers stood behind Deloy, their flashlights bouncing off the steel door, as he unlocked the padlock and slid the door open. And as soon as it opened up, the officers knew they had found the jackpot. Piled high in the storage unit was stereo equipment. Many of the officers cheered knowing that they could finally get justice for the victims.
Starting point is 00:46:11 They all stepped inside and walked through a maze of equipment. In the middle of the storage unit was a stereo dust cover with a rolled-up car mat. When police unrolled the car mat, they found a green cup and a bottle of Drano, half full, next to the cup. The bottle red. Tough on clogs won't hurt pipes. Doctors and nurses at St. Benedict Hospital would now know the mysterious liquid that had burned Courtney and Orrin's face, and what had caused the bloody foam in Courtney's lungs.
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Starting point is 00:47:54 And now, back to today's story. Next morning, media caught wind of Dale and Williams' arrest and the items found in the storage unit. The news and radio, stations were broadcasting the information and the front of every newspaper in Ogden said the high-fi-shop murderers were finally caught. But before we get into the trials, we want to talk about the victims and their funerals. Michelle Ansley was buried on Saturday morning, April 22nd, 1974. Brent Richardson, the owner of the hi-fi shop, eulogized her funeral.
Starting point is 00:48:46 He spoke about her upcoming wedding in August and how her life was cut far too short. He spoke about her outgoing and bubbly personality and about how a week before the hi-fi murders, when the hi-fi shop hosted a dance at the local high school, Michelle had grabbed Brent's hand and guided him onto the dance floor. She was put to rest at Washington Heights and Memorial Park, where later that afternoon, Carol Nassbitt would be buried as well. Carol Elaine Peterson Nesbitt was buried on the afternoon of Saturday, April 27, 1974. Her family was allowed to view the body before the funeral,
Starting point is 00:49:30 and when the casket lid was lifted, they noticed the woman lying before them didn't look anything like the wife or mother they knew. She didn't look peaceful. She looked like she had died a horrible death. Her husband, Byron, took the diamond. ring from her finger and placed it inside a coin envelope. Her diamond earrings were also replaced with gold studs. The main speaker at Carol's funeral was a close family friend named Dr. Paul Southwick. He spoke about the good memories they shared and how she had been a wonderful, doting mother to her
Starting point is 00:50:00 children. Her love and concern for her kids would ultimately be what ended her life when she drove to the high-fi shop to look for her son. She was buried at Washington Heights Memorial Park. Stanley Walker would be buried on Friday, April 26, 1974. And his father, Orrin, was in the hospital at the time, but he was able to leave to attend the funeral. Orin's gunshot wound to the head appeared to be superficial. But he was on a high dose of antibiotics to prevent infection, so when he left to be with his family, a nurse stood by his side until it was time to return. Two days after Stanley's funeral, Orrin would walk out of the hospital for good and start preparations to be the prosecutor's key witness in the case.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And once the victims were laid to rest, the people of Ogden, Utah were ready for justice. And the victim's families were angry. After Dale and William are arrested, Dr. Byron Naspid, Carol's husband and Courtney's father, arrived at the police station the next day. morning and demanded to see the two men. He wanted to look them in the eye and ask why. He couldn't fathom that two men could do something so brutal to another human being. The police didn't want Byron to do something foolish that he might regret later. And Byron eventually agreed with the officers and went back home to wait for the fate of the two men at their trial. During his son's recovery, Courtney had to undergo several surgeries and spent 266 days in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Courtney was lucky to be alive, but he would be physically and mentally changed for the rest of his life. The bullet left Courtney with permanent brain damage that interfered with concentration and the ability to cope with everyday life. The right side of his body would be permanently damaged. His right foot dragged when he walked, and his right eye stared off to the side. He would never be able to hold down a job, and the Drano did such extensive damage to his esophagus. It had to be permanently removed and replaced. Doctors were able to use a part of his bowel to create an esophagus for Courtney, but the effects left him with stomach pain and difficulty digesting food. One of his doctors would later say, quote,
Starting point is 00:52:37 Courtney is here, but in some ways, it's almost worse than had he died, because he's not normal and will never be normal. End quote. And Courtney not only struggled physically, but emotionally as well. It wasn't rare for him to lash out at nurses trying to help him. He would get so violent when they came into his room that he would swing his arms trying to hit them. Many nurses had bruises on their bodies from,
Starting point is 00:53:03 Courtney. At one point, Courtney grabbed the arm of a nurse, twisting it and holding it behind her back until she started to cry and someone helped her get free from his grip. He would often curse and scream, God damn, God damn, God damn! He complained of stomach pain and had a hard time controlling his bladder and bowel movements. When he had an accident in bed, he would try hide it from the nurses due to his embarrassment, and that would cause him to lash out when they came to clean him up. A nurse described Courtney as psychotic because he would rip IVs out of his arm so often he had to be restrained. If anyone tried to approach him, he would be extremely aggressive. Doctors and nurses chalked it up to a PTSD-type situation,
Starting point is 00:53:47 where Courtney might be thinking the staff were going to torture or kill him. Courtney also battled many infections in high fevers. He had chest infections that left him gasping for air. His weight had dropped to 106 pounds and every day was a struggle to, survive. One nurse compared Courtney's situation to a dying, suffering animal. He was like a pitiful animal suffering. When he was alone in the room, he would cry out these terrible hurt animal sounds. And yet you could go in and say, what's the matter, Courtney? And chances are you'd get no response at all from him. No response at all.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Walker also faced many difficulties after the murders. Although he was lucky to be alive as well, The crime was mentally and emotionally debilitating. His son was dead, and he would forever remember the brutal night that he watched his son be murdered. He would later say, quote, this has been hard for me. It's been hard for me to believe that I was ever involved with this. My son Stanley's life was taken with two shots and Drano. He tried five different times to kill me. Each one could have been lethal.
Starting point is 00:55:01 It certainly changed our lives." End quote. Lynn Walker, Orrin's youngest son, the one who called police and stumbled upon the crime scene, slept on the floor in his parents' room for a year after the murders. He also refused to go into any basements. Orin's wife, Joyce, spent a lot of time in bed, trying to forget what happened to her son on April 22, 1974. Dale Peer and William Andrews trials for the high-fi shot murders began on October 15th, 1974,
Starting point is 00:55:37 and only lasted one month. And given that the defendants were black, there was a lot of racial tension in Utah at the time. The black community felt a lot of backlash. It wasn't rare for police officers to pull over a black person driving on Washington Boulevard just because of the color of their skin. Sarah McLennan, an African-American woman, who had moved to the area in 1966, and taught biology at the Intermountain Indian School had a young son who attended Bonneville High School.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Her son had been pulled over on Washington Boulevard for no reason other than the fact that he had dark skin. She said, there was a lot of profiling going on back then. There seemed to be a lot of hostility back then. Before the suspects were caught, it was even said that police were instructed to pull over every car that had a black person in it, hoping to catch the men responsible.
Starting point is 00:56:28 But things started to go back to normal once the two men were eventually caught. It took two weeks for jury selection and the courthouse venue was moved to Farmington, Utah, 20 miles away from Ogden. The jury consisted of 11 men and one woman. There were no black jurors picked. Defense attorneys for Dale and William fought for Courtney to take the stand as a witness, but Courtney's doctor refused. stating that he wouldn't be able to remember facts about the murders. Retrograde amnesia tends to involve memory loss of facts rather than skills. The doctor also went on to explain that he had never seen a patient who had gone through such terrible trauma,
Starting point is 00:57:16 and it was unlikely Courtney would ever make a full recovery. Dale Pierre, William Andrews, and Keith Roberts, the getaway driver, were charged with three counts of first. degree murder and two counts of aggravated robbery. The prosecutor Robert Newey presented the full array of items taken from the storage unit to the jury. There were 120 items on full display, including amplifiers, turntables, and speakers. The defense argued for a mistrial when at lunch one afternoon, a juror opened a folded napkin and found a picture of gallows with a handwritten note saying, quote, hang those inwards, end quote. The jurors informed the judge that the note
Starting point is 00:58:06 had not and would not persuade their findings and the mistrial was denied by the judge. The star witness for the prosecution was Orrin Walker. When he took the stand, he pointed to Dale and told the jury that that was the man who pointed the gun at him when he arrived at the high-fi shop looking for his son. He then told the jury that William was the man who pointed the gun at him when Dale tied him up downstairs in the basement. He told the jury that Dale raped Michelle, how he forced them to drink Drano, how they were all shot one by one, and how Dale tried to strangle him with an electrical cord. Orrin had made a full recovery and the bullet hole in his head proved to be superficial. The pen that was kicked into his ear canal had been safely removed,
Starting point is 00:58:48 and the only wounds visible were the burn marks on his chin and throat, where the drano had burned his skin. When he told the jury what happened to his son, Stanley, downstairs in the basement, he began to cry, but he wouldn't leave the witness stand until he was finished with his testimony. Carol's husband and Courtney's father, Dr. Byron Nasbit, also took the stand, and he informed the jury of his son's permanent injuries. Dale would later say that during Byron's testimony, two members of the jury kept looking at him while Byron told the horrific aftermath of Courtney's life in the hospital. The jury was also presented with colored pictures of the crime scene. There were close-up pictures of the victim's burned skin on their faces and shoulders from the Drano.
Starting point is 00:59:37 They showed Michelle's naked body and the close-up picture of the bullet hole in her skull. Dale recalled feeling sick while looking at the day. the images. He would later say, quote, it was generally gross. They had pictures of the whole room down there. The court broke out then for lunch. I told my defense attorney, I was sick, and he asked for a doctor, end quote. Which is so weird that he was getting sick looking at the crime scene photos, but it didn't seem to bother him when he was shooting them in the head that night or kicking pens into their ears. On October 15th, 1974, the prime prosecution and the defense rested their cases. The jury was released at 6.45 p.m. to deliberate their
Starting point is 01:00:23 findings. Less than 12 hours later at 5 a.m. the next morning, the jury returned with their verdict. They found Dale Peer guilty on all counts, two counts of aggravated robbery, and three counts of first-degree murder. They also found William Andrews guilty on all five counts. When it came to Keith Roberts, the getaway driver for the crime, the jury was hung on the murder charges, but he was found guilty of aggravated robbery. Orne's testimony throughout the trial let the jury know that Roberts wasn't inside the high-fi shop when the crime was being committed. The penalty phase of the trial was set for November 20th, 1974. Pierre and Andrews were facing the death penalty under the Utah death penalty statute that stated if a person was found guilty of first-degree murder, a separate
Starting point is 01:01:09 hearing would be held to determine if the person would serve a life sentence or be sentenced to death. Laura Ansley, Michelle's mother, in asking about the death penalty for William, who many thought should have received a life sentence because he didn't commit the murders, responded. Let him join his companion in hell. She felt that her daughter wasn't given the option to live, so the life of William Andrews shouldn't be spared either. During the penalty phase of the trial, there are two main components being examined regarding the defendants.
Starting point is 01:01:41 There's the character of the defendant and their background. Would it be better for society if the defendant spent the remainder of their lives in prison? Or should they be killed for what they did? The defense went into full detail on what would happen to Dale and William when the day came for execution. He would later say, quote, The sun rising, the chains rattling. the defendants drugged and crying, being dragged to the chair where he would be tied down, a heart sewn to the front of his shirt, the six rifles that would be aimed at the heart.
Starting point is 01:02:21 End quote. Newey, the prosecuting attorney, was the last person to present his statement to the jury. He recalled that Dale and William had no remorse for the suffering of the victims as they pleaded for their lives on the night of April 22nd, 1974. How in cold blood, each victim was forced to drink Drano, the vomiting that followed, their burned skin, the rape of Michelle, and the bullet that had been put into each victim's head. Newey told the jury that at least Dale and Williams' death would be quick and painless,
Starting point is 01:03:02 and they would never know the suffering the five victims endured. Then he left the jury with a chilling question. How humane was their executioner? It didn't take long for the jury to reach a verdict regarding the fate of Dale and William. Dale speculated that he would receive the death penalty and Williams would receive a life sentence. But when they were taken back into the courtroom, the judge read the decision. Dale Pier and William Andrews were both sentenced to death. three times for the three victims they had murdered.
Starting point is 01:03:35 In Utah's history, out of 140 people found guilty of first-degree murder, 79 were issued a life sentence and 61 had been sentenced to death. Of the 61 people who received the death penalty, only 31 had been actually executed by the state. The last execution by the state of Utah was on March 30, 1960. The two men were escorted back to their jail cells after the decision was made. In the morning, they would be transported to the Utah. Utah State Prison, where they would wait for their execution date.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Many people in the African American community were outraged at the ruling. They believed William was only an accomplice in the murders and should have never been sentenced to death. Reverend France Davis was one member of the community who believed it was unfair for William to be put to death. His belief was that the justice system is unfair to African Americans. In a news article for ABC4, he said, The death penalty was being used as a racist device that they were more African-Americans. African Americans being put to death than there were any other group. He was one of the many members of the Ogden community who supported commutation for William Andrews. On November 20th, 1974,
Starting point is 01:04:45 the same day Dale and William were sentenced to death, Courtney Naspett finally left St. Benedict's hospital. He mostly spent his days watching television and sitting on the couch in the corner of the family's den. The corner would eventually be called. Courtney's Corner by his family. Courtney had to learn how to feed himself with the right amount of formula to be injected into his feeding tube. His father was adamant that no one should help him because he had to learn how to do things on his own, although it was hard for his father to watch his son struggle with day-to-day tasks. He stated, quote, I babied him quite a little bit, probably more than I should have, just mothered him.
Starting point is 01:05:32 and put up with his immaturity and stuff like that. I figured he'd had enough stress, and I wasn't going to push him that hard. End quote. But Byron knew that it was in Courtney's best interest to eventually be able to take care of himself. When Courtney was able to return to school, he could only commit to two hours a day.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Before the murders, he hadn't been very popular at Ogden High School, but when he returned, everyone knew who he was. Many students went out of their way to say hello or encourage him to keep fighting. He was deemed a hero. The students wanted him to feel welcome and missed when he returned. But most of all, they pitied him for what he went through. It was hard for Courtney to remember his friends. He seemed distant when people spoke to him. His eyes were glassy, and there was a gray coloring to his skin.
Starting point is 01:06:34 When students and staff spoke to him, he often wouldn't respond. One student even said of Courtney, quote, the best way to describe Courtney is haunted. Now, in better news, on May 27, 1976, at the Weber State College,
Starting point is 01:06:53 a stage had been set up for the high school graduation of Courtney's class. When his name was called, and it was time for him, to make his way across the stage, there was an eruption of applause, and people stood to honor him. Courtney limped across the stage, focusing on uncurling his right hand to receive his diploma from the principal. He said, quote, after they read my name, my dad said that everyone in the bleachers stood up and started clapping. I didn't see it because I was concentrating so hard trying to get my
Starting point is 01:07:28 hand open." End quote. Courtney's father would later remarry in 1978 and go on to live a fulfilling life until his death in November of 2020. In an article for the Associated Press in 1987, Byron voiced his concerns for victims' rights after a brutal crime. He believed money spent for legal battles to execute Andrews and Pierre, feed and house them in prison, would have been better spent on helping Courtney. He said, quote, no one has once given any thought to my son as to what he needs. His rights were the ones that were violated. When asked about his thoughts on the death penalty verdict, he responded, quote, whether they execute him or not, it's not going to help Courtney's situation one bit.
Starting point is 01:08:21 end quote. Dr. Naspit's hope was for one day there would be financial aid funds in place for survivors of violent crime. Dale Peer tried to appeal his conviction three times, but he was denied every time. In one last ditch effort, he tried for clemency.
Starting point is 01:08:39 In August 1987, Peir's attorneys filed his appeal to the board, and they agreed to hear his case. He was granted 10 hours of testimony, five from Peer and five from the state. In the morning of the first day of the hearing, He did what a lot of criminals never do. He confessed to the murders.
Starting point is 01:08:55 He informed the panel that he never intended to kill the victims. He only wanted to rob the store. The Drana was brought as a possible way to keep the victims quiet. He blamed his behavior on his strict upbringing in Trinidad, where he experienced multiple beatings. Upon his arrival to New York City as a teenager, he had never known prejudice. He claimed the discrimination he felt and the U.S. began to boil inside of him,
Starting point is 01:09:18 creating a rage he had never known. The rage continued. when he joined the Air Force, and on the night of the murders, he was angry and under the influence of Valium, beer, and marijuana. Ultimately, though, Peer's attempt at clemency didn't persuade the panel, and the death sentence would remain in place. Peer was set to die by lethal injection. On August 28, 1987, Peer was executed and pronounced dead at 1.12 a.m. by a lethal dose of three different drugs. When asked if he had any final words, he responded, Thank you. I just... want to say my prayers. He bequeathed the rest of his money to William Andrews, and Andrews became
Starting point is 01:09:57 richer by $29. Earl Dorias, from the Attorney General's office in Utah, witnessed the execution of Dale Peer. He described the scene, saying, Not a bit of pain. It's just as if they were sedating a patient to prepare them for surgery. That's the best way I can describe it. It's the most painless appearing form of execution imaginable. As for Andrew Williams, he spent nearly 18 years on death row. In 1992, the NAACP stood outside of the courthouse in Ogden, Utah, demanding that Williams' life be spared because he didn't participate in the murders. Defense attorney Steve Hawkins believed that Williams was sentenced to death because he was a black man. Janetta Williams, a member of the Salt Lake City's NACP, was outraged at the decision to uphold the death sentence. She believed
Starting point is 01:10:51 as did many others, that William was solely given the death penalty because of the color of his skin. She would later tell the media, quote, William Andrews did not kill anyone. I'm here to let you know, we are outraged. We have a right to be upset. End quote. Attorneys for Andrews believed he would never receive a fair trial in a state that is composed of mostly white people. They emphasized that white men convicted of murder,
Starting point is 01:11:21 in the state of Utah were given less harsh sentences and highly publicized murder trial. But the fate of Andrews rested in the hands of the parole board and his last appeal to commute his sentence to life in prison was rejected. A pro-life march for Andrews was held in 1992 outside of the governor's mansion near downtown Salt Lake City. But on July 30, 1992, 37-year-old William Andrews was executed by the state of Utah after many appeals to reduce his sentence to life in prison. His last words were, quote, thank those who tried so hard to keep me alive. I hope they continue to fight for equal justice after I'm gone. Tell my family goodbye and that I love them. End quote. As he lay strapped to the gurney, Ivy
Starting point is 01:12:17 tubes running into his arms, he lifted his head for a brief moment and saw family members watching. He mouthed them, I love you, and smiled. Witnesses say he was calm and relaxed, almost ready for the nightmare to be over. And at 146 a.m., Williams was pronounced dead. And for the getaway driver Keith Leon Roberts, he served nearly 13 years in prison for two counts of aggravated robbery. but on May 12, 1987, he was paroled. He moved to rural Chandler, Oklahoma and got a job at an electronics company. His testimony during the trial was that he had his wisdom teeth removed at 9 a.m. on April 22nd, 1974.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Around 4 p.m., Pierre and Selby woke him up in his room and said they were going to take Andrew's van and look for an apartment for Robert's wife and baby. Roberts drove the van but started to feel sick from the surgery, so Peer got into the driver's seat. That's when Pierre drove to the hi-fi shop, parked, and he and Andrews got out of the van. Growing up, my mom was always the best at handling sticky, stressful situations. I mean, we have so many crazy family memories, so many things that stick out to me, so many trips that we took and just funny moments. I mean, I remember specifically one just crazy time when we had jet skis and we took them out.
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Starting point is 01:15:30 He arrived back at the barracks at 7 p.m. and fell asleep. But witnesses for the prosecution told a different story about Roberts. They stated that they saw him actively pacing back and forth on the sidewalk during the HIFI robbery and murders. In a later testimony, he confessed that he wanted to rob the store for easy money, so he agreed to drive the getaway vehicle. He thought the store was empty when they arrived to rob it. Orrin's testimony saved him from being convicted of murder, because Orin did not place Roberts inside of the hi-fi shop during the crime. After being paroled from the Utah State prison, he flew under the radar and never got into trouble again. His parole officer said he
Starting point is 01:16:10 adjusted well to life after prison and established himself in Oklahoma. On August 8th, 1992, Robert Stein, a week after William Andrews was executed. And there are some sources that say it was from suicide, but we were not able to confirm this. As for the survivors of this horrific tragedy, they clearly don't have a happy ending. Orrin Walker, his wife, Joyce Walker, and their youngest son Lynn lived a quiet life in Utah after the murder of Stanley. They tried their best to live through their grief, but it definitely wasn't easy. Orrin would later pass away on February 13, 2000. Courtney Nasbit continued to struggle throughout the remainder of his life. And on June 4th, 2002, after an undisclosed illness in Seattle, Washington, he passed away at the age of 44. His father, Byron, refused to
Starting point is 01:17:06 refused to comment on how his son died but said, quote, this is the end of the high-fi story. I want this to be the end of it. End quote. The hi-fi shop was demolished after the murders and replaced by a new shopping center. A restaurant called Cooper's now stands where the hi-fi shop was once located. However, it appears that Cooper has permanently closed its doors. In 1991, a made-for-television movie called Aftermath, A Test of Love, aired on CBS. The local news in Ogden slammed the movie for being pointless and poorly made.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Desert News writes, quote, CBS would have us believe that this is a movie about the victims of violent crime that does not dwell on the actual killings. But more than enough time is spent showing the victims being forced to dream. drain cleaner and shot in the head. There's also a contrived happy ending that negates any supposed message about the suffering of victims." End quote. The truth is, the city of Ogden would never be the same after April 22nd, 1974. The high-fi murders are now considered one of the worst hostage situations in United States history because of the brutality of the crime. The proletes
Starting point is 01:18:31 The prolonged torture, the rape of Michelle, and the shooting of five victims will forever be remembered in the town of Ogden, Utah. Hey, everybody, it's Colin again. Thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of Murder in America. We have some cool news and updates for you this week. We're going to get into that in a second. But first, I want to shout out all of our new beautiful patrons out there, Person King, Christina Castro, Stacey Hudek, Kelsey Shelburne, Ysena Jimenez, Katrina Bowman, Dave Fulton, Chad Carter, Brittany, Kaelin Goodrich, Tyler Myers, Shannon Coff, Heidi Laska, Tony Robinson, Ibrahim Mikhail, and Callie Kof, or Koff. Sorry, Callie, if I slaughtered that, but wow, that is a lot of patrons. If you're wondering what we do on Patreon, we post the ad-free version of every episode on there as soon as the episode goes live on all streaming platforms. So if you don't like ads, sign up to
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