Murder: True Crime Stories - MYSTERIOUS DEATH: The Kidnapping & Assassination of Aldo Moro

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

On March 16, 1978, former Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro was kidnapped off a busy Rome street by the Red Brigades terrorist group, his five bodyguards killed in seconds. For 55 days, he wrote 86 let...ters begging for his life, while his own government called his death a spiritual victory. In this episode of Murder: True Crime Stories, Carter Roy examines the assassination, the political forces that may have sealed Moro's fate, and the questions that no official investigation has ever fully answered. Follow Hidden History with Dr. Harini Bhat wherever you listen to podcasts: https://play.megaphone.fm/1njgvcsrru6hokjge13mda Head over to our Murder True Crime Stories YouTube channel to WATCH our video episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@MurderTrueCrimeStories If you’re new here, don’t forget to follow Murder True Crime Stories to never miss a case! For Ad-free listening and early access to episodes, subscribe to Crime House+ on Apple Podcasts. Murder True Crime Stories is a Crime House Original Podcast, powered by PAVE Studios 🎧 Need More to Binge?  Listen to other Crime House Originals Clues, Crimes Of…, Serial Killers & Murderous Minds, Crime House 24/7, and more wherever you get your podcasts! Follow me on Social Instagram: @Crimehouse TikTok: @Crimehouse Facebook: @crimehousestudios YouTube: @murdertruecrimestories To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, listeners, it's Carter Roy. Before we get into today's episode of Murder True Crime Stories, I want to tell you about another show I think you'll love, Hidden History with Dr. Harini Bot. Every Monday, Dr. Bot goes where history gets mysterious. Vanished civilizations, doomsday prophecies, paranormal phenomena, and events that science still can't fully explain. Dr. Bot treats these moments like open case files.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Not myths, not superstition, just incomplete explanations waiting for a closer look. Hidden history drops every Monday. Follow now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. So you never miss a mystery. This is Crime House. On March 16, 1978, a man kissed his wife goodbye, walked downstairs, and got into a car. He was headed to one of the most important meetings of his life. He never made it.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Instead, 91 shots were fired in broad daylight on a busy Roman street. Five of the man's bodyguards were slaughtered in seconds, and he was dragged into the trunk of a car and driven away. The world knew who did it. The killers called the press and announced it themselves. But what happened next is where the real mystery begins. Because for 55 days, the Italian government had the chance to save him, and they chose not to. This is the kidnapping and assassination of Aldo Morrow.
Starting point is 00:02:03 People's lives are like a story. There's a beginning, a middle, and an end. But you don't always know which part you're on. Sometimes the final chapter arrives far too soon, and we don't always get to know the real ending. I'm Carter Roy, and this is murder. True Crime Stories, a crime house original powered by Pave Studios. New episodes come out every Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday. Welcome back to another episode of Murder Mystery Fridays,
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Starting point is 00:04:06 I'm especially glad to be joining you for this episode because, like you said, it's such a haunting murder mystery. I'm talking about the assassination of Aldo Morrow. On the morning of March 16th, 1978, former Italian Prime Minister Aldo Morrow was kidnapped off a busy street in Rome by a far-left terrorist group called the Red Brigades. Five of his bodyguards were killed in the attack. Aldo himself was held captive for 55 days. During that time, he wrote 86 letters begging for his life.
Starting point is 00:04:41 His family pleaded with the government. So did the Pope. More than 16 million Italians took to the streets to beg for his release. Despite all that, the government did nothing. And on May 9, 1978, Aldo Morrow was shot 10 times in the trunk of a car. The Red Brigades were convicted and the case was officially closed, but the questions never went away. Why did the Italian government refuse to negotiate? Who really wanted all? Aldo Morrow silenced and was the CIA involved? All that and more coming up. To understand why anyone would want Aldo Morrow dead, you have to understand who he was.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And to do that, you have to go back to the beginning. Aldo Morrow was born on September 23rd, 1916 in the region of Puglia in southern Italy. Unknown as the country's boot heel, Puglia was one of the most underdeveloped parts of the country. Its people were among the poorest in all of Italy, but Aldo's parents had bigger plans for their son. His mother was a teacher, his father, a school inspector. They understood the value of education, and they made sure Aldo did too. When he was five, the family relocated to the port city of Toronto, where the schools were better, and by the time he was 18, Aldo had graduated near the top of his class. He'd always been ambitious, always hungry to make a mark on the world.
Starting point is 00:06:28 He just hadn't found his arena yet. After Aldo graduated, the family moved again, this time to Bari, the capital of Puglia, and one of southern Italy's most important economic centers. It was there, surrounded by the noise and energy of real civic life that Aldo found his calling. Politics. in the early 20th century was technically a democracy, but King Victor Emmanuel III still had a lot of influence over politics. In 1922, when Aldo was just six years old, the king appointed Benito Mussolini as prime minister. What followed was a decades-long fascist regime
Starting point is 00:07:14 that reshaped the country from the inside out. Mussolini ruled through fear. He instituted a peaceful, police state, imprisoned critics, built a cult of personality around Roman imperial history, and pulled Italy into conflicts. It had no business fighting. For a young man growing up under this regime, it was hard to know any different. Like a lot of young Italians at the time, Aldo wasn't immediately turned off by Mussolini. In some ways, he was even impressed by Mussolini's ability to project national unity. So,
Starting point is 00:07:52 when Aldo enrolled at the University of Bahri to study law, he joined a fascist student organization. It seemed like the natural thing to do. But Aldo had another defining trait that would eventually pull him in a different direction. He had grown up deeply Catholic, and this wasn't a casual show-up on Sunday kind of faith. There's a real thing. And the more he leaned into it, the more Mussolini's ideology started to feel like a problem. In 1935, 19-year-old Aldo joined a second student group, the Italian Catholic Federation of University Students, unknown by its Italian acronym FUCI, FUCI.
Starting point is 00:08:36 The organization was run by the Catholic Church as a way to connect university students to their faith, and it stood in sharp contrast to the fascist group Aldo was also a member of. Lucille's government was using fascist college groups to to create a monopoly over-education, deliberately shaping young men into loyal subjects of the state. The Fusey resisted that. They championed independent thought and allegiance to God, not government.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And because the organization was backed by the Vatican, Mussolini couldn't touch it the way he did his other opponents. Under the Fusee's influence, Aldo began developing his own more. moral and political identity. He also met a friend who had come to define his entire life, a young Catholic priest named Giovanni Battista Montini. And the more time Aldo spent within the Fusei,
Starting point is 00:09:38 the more the fascist group lost its appeal. Eventually, he dropped out of it altogether. It was a quiet act of conscience. But in Mussolini's Italy, choosing faith over fascism was never entirely without risk. By 1939, Aldo was about to graduate from the University of Bari, and Montini, who had risen to become chief of staff to Pope Pius I, 12th, had a new job for him. He wanted Aldo to serve as the national president of the Fusee in Rome. Aldo accepted. He moved to Rome, stepped into the role with confidence, and privately, he began envisioning what a truly democratic Italy might look like.
Starting point is 00:10:27 He was still a few years away from having the power to build it, but the dream was already forming. In 1940, Mussolini allied Italy with Adolf Hitler and dragged the country into World War II. At the time, it probably seemed like a winning. bet France and Belgium were crumbling. Musilini thought Britain was next and he wanted a share of the spoils. He was wrong. Britain held the United States and the Soviet Union entered the war. By 1942, the Italian army was badly outmatched. That year, 26-year-old Aldo was drafted. He resigned his Fusey presidency and left for war, leaving a young idealist named Julius Giuliani and Riatti in his place.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Remember that name. He'll come back into this story and not in a flattering way. In July, 1943, Allied forces invaded Sicily. The Italian military had already suffered devastating losses in North Africa. There was no stopping what was coming. The blame fell on Mussolini, and King Victor Emmanuel III finally dismissed him as Prime Minister. After 20 years, the fascist regime was beginning to crack. That same month, Aldo, still technically in the army,
Starting point is 00:11:55 helped lead a conference of Catholic intellectuals. They were trying to lay the groundwork for what Italy might become after the war. After a week of deliberation, the group published a document called The Code of Kolmoldi. It was a sweeping blueprint for attention. Italian economic policy, one that emphasized family, Catholic values, and equality under the law, and support for the poor. It was a remarkable document for its time, and it gave Aldo something concrete to build on. In the months that followed, he co-founded a newspaper in Bari called La Raseña, or The Review,
Starting point is 00:12:38 which promoted the code of Commandole's ideas and gave a platform to center-right thinkers. On September 8, 1943, Italy officially surrendered to the Allies. The long process of rebuilding began, and Aldo Morrow wanted to be at the center of it. As new democratic institutions took shape, the code of Kamaldoli served as the ideological foundation for a new political party. The Christian Democrats. Aldo was one of its founding members. He also had some personal milestones. In 1945, he married a woman named Eleonora, who he'd met through the Fuse. She was an intellectual in her own right, studying Italian literature at the University of Rome,
Starting point is 00:13:33 and they would go on to have four children together. And soon, Aldo got some more good news. In 1946, King Victor Emmanuel III abdicated the throne. Aldo was appointed vice president of the Christian Democracy Party. In the general election that year, he was elected to the constituent assembly, the body tasked with drafting Italy's new constitution. Two years later, with the new government up and running, he was elected to the Italian parliament and made vice minister of foreign affairs.
Starting point is 00:14:08 At 32 years old, Aldo Morrow was no longer just a dreamer. He was a power player. Over the next 15 years, Aldo became one of the most formidable figures in Italian politics, which was no small feat. The country's political landscape was extraordinarily fractured. You had the centrist Christian Democrats, the left-wing Italian socialists and communists, and the right-wing Italian social movement made up of nostalgic former fashion. navigating all of that required patience, strategic thinking, and a willingness to make uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:14:51 compromises. Aldo had all three. In 1960, he helped push out the conservative head of the Christian Democrats to build an alliance with the Socialist Party. It was a bold move, and it worked. He became the party's new leader. In June, 1963, Giovanni Battista Montini, the priest who had given Aldo his first major role, became the new Pope, Paul the 6th. He promised reform, unity, and the church focused on the poor. Six months later, 47-year-old Aldo Morrow was appointed Prime Minister of Italy. He and the Pope were making similar promises at the same moment in time. that wasn't a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:15:42 They'd been building toward this together for decades. Aldo's first term as Prime Minister showed his potential and his limits. He built a coalition with the Italian Socialist Party the first time they'd held real power since the post-war period. But political infighting and rising inflation made it nearly impossible to push through the reforms he promised. And by the end of his five years in office, the Christian Democrats were weaker than when he started.
Starting point is 00:16:15 When Aldo left office in 1968, the socialists and communists were gaining ground. The political right saw this happening and they were alarmed. What happened next tells you a lot about what Italy was up against in those years, and it sets the stage for everything that followed. On April 25th, 1969, right-wing, Terrorists reportedly with support from the CIA detonated a bomb inside a bank at the Piazza Fontana in Milan. 17 people were killed, 88 more were wounded. I want you to sit with that for a moment.
Starting point is 00:16:57 A bomb inside a bank in the middle of a city, killing 17 people. This wasn't a fringe incident. It was the opening shot of what would become known as the years of lead, a roughly two-decade period of political violence that tore through Italy from both the left and the right. And Aldo Morrow was standing right in the middle of it. Think about some of the cases that defined true crime in America. Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart, the Karen retrial. Some crime cases are so shocking. They don't just make headlines they forever change a country.
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Starting point is 00:19:02 He did, and the train left without him. At 1.23 in the morning, a bomb exploded on the train's fifth car. Twelve people were killed, another 48 were wounded. According to some historians, Aldo Morrow was the intended target. The attack was attributed to a far-right Italian terrorist group called the Black Order. Did they know Aldo was on that train? Did someone tip off the government officials who pulled him off before it blew? Nobody has ever given a straight answer to either of those questions. What we do know is that someone wanted Aldo Moro dead badly enough to blow up a train full of
Starting point is 00:19:46 innocent people to get to him. Two months after the Italicus bombing, Aldo was appointed Prime Minister for a second time. Italy was looking for a steady hand amid the chaos, and he was the obvious choice. His second term was just as difficult as the first, but he kept moving, and crucially, he kept talking to the Communist Party. And by the mid-1970s, the communists were the second largest party in Italy, coming close to surpassing the Christian Democrats themselves. Aldo didn't see the communist as a threat.
Starting point is 00:20:26 He saw them as partners. People who could actually help him stabilize a country that was coming apart at the seams. When he left office in 1976, he announced his intention to return for a third term, and this time he wanted to bring the communists with him. The idea was to form what became known as the historic conference. a governing coalition that united the Christian Democrats and the Communist Party under a single government. It was a radical idea. For the Cold War era, a Western government formerly partnering with communists was genuinely shocking.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And it made certain people very nervous. On March 16, 1978, Aldo was on his way to the Chamber of the Chamber of the United. deputies to finalize the deal. It was supposed to be the day his political vision became reality. It was also the last day he would ever walk free. Aldo started his morning as he always did. A pastry, an espresso, a shave. He kissed his wife Eleanor goodbye and went downstairs to his waiting car. What he didn't know was that 11 men carrying submachine guns had already taken up positions along his route. They were all members of the Red Brigades, a Marxist-Leninist-terrorist organization founded in 1970 with the stated goal of sparking and armed revolution in Italy.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Their aim was to establish a communist republic. Sever Italy's ties to the Western world and align the country with the Soviet Union instead. Over the years, they had kidnapped politicians and industrialists, knee-capped enemies, and targeted schools. And by 1978, they were one of the most feared organizations in the country. The operation against Aldo was organized with remarkable precision. Because many of the terrorists didn't know each other personally, several war uniforms from Italy's national airline, Alitalia, to prevent friendly fire. Others dressed as telephone workers to sabotage nearby phone lines. They even slashed the tires of a florist van parked on the street, just in case it was in the way. At 8.45, that morning, Aldo's car pulled out of his apartment
Starting point is 00:23:08 building and headed toward the chamber of deputies. His security detail turned left down via Fani. All their weapons were in the trunk, and none of the guards had been formally trained to use them, which is wild to think about. The most powerful man in Italian politics, a known assassination target, was being driven through Rome by bodyguards who weren't weapons trained and whose guns were sitting in the trunk. Someone looked at that setup and thought it was fine. Someone was very, very wrong. That detail haunts me. As Aldo's car reached the end of Viofani, two Red Brigade's vehicles pulled out to block the exits. The security team tried to push through, but couldn't. They were trout. And that's when the Red Brigades stepped out. They fired 91 shots.
Starting point is 00:24:05 45 of them hit the security detail. All five bodyguards were dead within seconds. Aldo sat in the car, covered in their blood unharmed. A fiat pulled alongside the bullet-ridden vehicle. The terrorists dragged Aldo out and put him in the car. The whole thing took three minutes. A few minutes later, the Red Brigades called ANSA, Italia's top news agency, and claimed responsibility.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Now the architect of the historic compromise was gone. And whoever had decided the historic compromise could never happen got exactly what they wanted. The question is, who were those men exactly? The Red Brigade's operation was led by a 32-year-old commander named Mario Moretti. He had grown up in a middle-class family that supported Mussolini, but after college, he'd refashioned. himself into a communist revolutionary. By 1978, he was one of the organization's most prominent figures. Morady watched Aldo's negotiations with the Communist Party with what can only be described as ideological fury. He didn't see the historic compromise as progress. He saw it as betrayal,
Starting point is 00:25:27 a sellout of true communist principles in exchange for a seat at the establishment's table. He wanted to make a statement. He also wanted to free the Red Brigade's imprisoned founders who had been arrested in 1974 and sentenced to 18 years each. His plan was simple, at least on paper. He would trade Aldo for the Red Brigade's imprisoned leaders, and in doing so, forced the Italian government to recognize the organization as a legitimate political force. Moretie had followed Aldo for months. He watched his daily routines, tracked his movements, and knew that Aldo walked his grandson to a local church each morning with a single guard at his side.
Starting point is 00:26:16 He saw that Aldo's driver took different routes each day, which meant the ambush would have to happen close to home before the car had a chance to divert. The Red Brigades even traveled to Czechoslovakia to rehearse the attack using cars and dummies. This was not a spontaneous act of violence. It was a meticulously planned military operation. When the historic compromise looked like it was days away from being finalized, Morady decided it was time to act. Within an hour of the attack on Aldo Moro, Viafani was swarming with police. Aldo's wife, Eleanor, rushed to the scene with their children. Five dead bodyguards lay in the streets. The Pope sent her a telegram. Interior Minister
Starting point is 00:27:08 Francesco Cossiga, the man responsible for national security, mobilized 13,000 police officers. Every possible lead was pursued. They even arrested and interrogated the florist whose tires had been slashed. What the police didn't notice was the Red Brigades driving back to the to the scene of the attack and abandoning the getaway cars just one block from Viofani. It was a deliberate taunt, and it worked. By the end of the same day, the Italian Parliament had shelved the historic compromise. The Christian Democrats, now led by Aldo's old colleague, Giulio Andrioti, retained power without, the Communist Alliance Aldo had spent years building.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Two days after the kidnapping, a reporter from Il Messagiro, one of Italy's leading newspapers, received a call from an anonymous number. The caller claimed to be the Red Brigades. The reporter said, If you're the Red Brigades, I'm Buffalo Bill. The caller gave directions to an envelope. The envelope contained a letter declaring war
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Starting point is 00:29:26 fall asleep. I'll see you there. Here's where this case really gets under my skin because there are actually two questions here and people tend to only ask one of them the first is who killed aldo morrel the second is who let him die and i think that second question is a lot more complicated than anyone in power has ever been willing to admit now let me walk you through what we know over 55 days in captivity aldo wrote 86 letters he proposed prisoner exchanges he offered money He made legal arguments about the state's duty to protect its own citizens. He wrote to colleagues, to old friends, to the Pope. This was a man who had spent 30 years building bridges,
Starting point is 00:30:18 and he was using every last one of them. More than 16 million Italians, over a quarter of the country's entire population at the time, took to the streets to demand the government negotiate for his release. Even the mafia got involved. The increased police presence was bad for business, so they allegedly sent a message to the Red Brigades, negotiate, or will kill your imprisoned leaders. None of it mattered.
Starting point is 00:30:51 On March 31st, just two weeks into the crisis, the Christian Democrats released a formal statement. The party wrote, and I'm paraphrasing here, that as long as they stood firm against negotiations, the killing of Morrow would represent a spiritual victory for Italy and a definite defeat for the terrorists. A spiritual victory. Those were the words they chose. While their former leader was alive, writing letters, begging for his life,
Starting point is 00:31:25 his own party was already describing his death as a victory. Think about that. Now, the official reasoning for the, for refusing to negotiate was principled. The government argued that giving in to terrorist demands would set a dangerous precedent. It would invite future kidnappings and extortion. You don't negotiate with terrorists.
Starting point is 00:31:49 That was the position. I understand the argument. I do, but I can't stop thinking about what happened. Oh, just three years later. In 1981, the Red Brigades kidnapped Chiro Turelo, another Christian Democrat politician. The same party that had publicly written off Aldo Morrow's life as a spiritual sacrifice turned around and negotiated with the Red Brigades through the mafia to get T'Rillo freed.
Starting point is 00:32:20 They never explained why they'd reversed course. So the principle wasn't really a principle. It was a rule that applied to Aldo Morrow and apparently nobody else. But why? None of what I'm about to say has been definitively proven, but these aren't fringe theories. Serious journalists, historians, and parliamentary investigators have all gone down these roads, so let's go down them together. The first theory is the most straightforward. The historic compromise would have completely reshuffled power in Italy.
Starting point is 00:32:58 A Christian Democrat communist government meant the Christian Democrats no longer ran the show alone. Giulio Andriotti and others in the party stood to lose an enormous amount of influence if Aldo pulled it off. Letting him die kept things exactly the way they were. The second theory involves the United States. During the Cold War, Washington was deeply hostile to any Western government drifting toward communism, even a democratic parliamentary version of it. The CIA had already been linked to the Piazza Fontana bombing in 1969, which happened right as left-wing parties were gaining ground in Italy. The idea of a Christian-Democrat communist coalition in one of Western Europe's biggest countries would have set off alarm bells at CIA headquarters.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And here's where it gets really uncomfortable. There is a disputed account reported in multiple Italian investment. investigations that Aldo was directly warned by American officials, including then Secretary of State's Henry Kissinger, to walk away from the historic compromise. The message, according to sources close tomorrow, was not subtle. Pursue this, and you will pay a heavy price. Aldo pursued it anyway. Now the third theory is the one that unsettles me the most because it doesn't require foreign governments or Cold War politics and just requires powerful men protecting themselves. Aldo Moro knew where the bodies were buried, literally and figuratively.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Thirty years at the center of Italian politics meant he knew about the secret networks, the backroom deals, the compromises, that never made it into any official record. He knew what had really happened during the years of lead and who had actually been behind some of the violence. During his 55 days in captivity, the Red Brigades interrogated him extensively. They were building their political case against the Italian state and Aldo talked, not because they broke him,
Starting point is 00:35:21 but because he had always believed the truth mattered. And once he realized his own party wasn't coming, coming for him, he stopped having any reason to hold back. Some historians have asked a question that I think deserves to be taken seriously. What if certain powerful people in Italy weren't just afraid of the historic compromise? What if they were afraid of what Aldo might say if he ever walked out of that apartment alive? A man who had been interrogated for two months, who had decided his colleagues were cowards, who had vowed to leave the party and speak freely,
Starting point is 00:36:01 that man could do a lot of damage. I'm not telling you that's what happened. I'm telling you that serious people who have spent years studying this case have considered it, and I think you should know that. Pope Paul the 6th, Aldo's oldest friend, made one last attempt on day 37. He wrote an open letter to the Red Brigades, not a call for negotiation.
Starting point is 00:36:27 The church had fallen in line on that, too. Just a plea. On his knees, he asked them to free Aldo. No conditions, no deals. Just let him go. The Red Brigades read the letter to Aldo, but it still wasn't enough, and it only made Aldo feel more desperate. His letters after that get harder to read, darker, more bitter.
Starting point is 00:36:52 He wrote to Francesco Cossiga, the interior minister, the man who was supposed to be finding him, the man who had once been his friend, he told him he had killed him three times, once by providing inadequate security, once by refusing to negotiate, and once by making public statements that had antagonized the Red Brigades further. In early May, the Red Brigades held a nationwide vote on what to do. They had been holding Aldo for nearly two months.
Starting point is 00:37:26 No deal was coming. The debate among their cells was whether to kill him or keep trying. They voted to kill him. On May 7th, 1978, Aldo wrote his final letter to his wife, Eleonora. He told her they had informed him he would be killed soon. He told her the government could have saved him if they had wanted to. He told her it was the end. He asked her to kiss him.
Starting point is 00:37:58 the children. As a devout Catholic, Aldo asked for a priest. The Red Brigades had a connection with a radical young priest who came to give Aldo his last rights and absolution. Aldo refused his final meal. He took a shower and brushed his teeth. He dressed in the same suit he had been wearing the day he was taken, navy blue, striped shirt, dark tie. On the morning of May 9th, 1978 Aldo's captors carried him down to the building's parking garage in a large wicker basket hidden from view. Mario Morady helped load him into the trunk of a red Renault station wagon and covered him with a red sheet. He told Aldo he was being driven to a new location. Then Morady took out a silenced pistol and shot Aldo ten times in the chest. Not one bullet
Starting point is 00:38:58 struck his heart. It took him between five and ten minutes to bleed to death. The red brigades wrapped Aldo's body in orange vinyl and drove to a street called Via Kaitani in the Roman city center. The location wasn't an accident. Via Kaitani sits exactly halfway between the headquarters of the Christian Democrats and the Italian Communist Party. The message was clear. The historic compromise is dead, just like Aldo Moro. Later that day, the Red Brigades called Aldo's assistant and gave the location of the car.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Police found the Red Renault at 1.30 in the afternoon. In his last will and testament, Aldo asked that there be no public demonstrations, no national mourning, no state funeral, and no medals given in his name. He specified that none, of his former political allies were to attend his funeral. He was not asking to be remembered as a murder.
Starting point is 00:40:06 He was making a final statement about the men who had let him die. He knew exactly what his death meant and who had chosen to let it happen. I find that composure, even in his final weeks, remarkable, the clarity of it, the dignity. He never stopped thinking about what his story made. meant even as he was living through its worst chapter. What followed in the years after Aldo's murder was largely a validation of his worst fears about the direction Italy was heading. The Christian Democrats stayed in power but steadily lost ground to the rising right wing,
Starting point is 00:40:47 including openly neo-fascist parties. The economy kept struggling, hitting the country's poorest people hardest. The years of lead continued for another. decade with hundreds more deaths from terrorist attacks. And then in 1981, the Red Brigades kidnapped Chiro Chirillo, the same party that had refused to lift a finger for Aldo negotiated for Chirillo's release through the mafia and got him home safe. No explanation, no statement, no reckoning. The Red Brigades were largely dismantled by 1981. Mario Moretti was captured and ultimately received six life sentences for his role in Aldo's murder. He later gave interviews in which he
Starting point is 00:41:33 discussed the operation in detail, calling it a political action and defending his decisions. Moretti has never publicly expressed remorse. There have been multiple official investigations into Moro's case since 1978. Parliamentary commissions in 1983, 1998, and again in the 2010s, have examined what the government knew and when, what role foreign intelligence agencies may have played, and whether any rescue operation was deliberately sabotaged. None of them have come close to a real answer. Documents have been lost. Witnesses have died.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Some officials have declined to testify. The picture remains frustratingly incomplete. I keep coming back to those. final days, the shower, the suit, the letter to Eleanor, a man who knew exactly what was coming and faced it with everything he had. He was 61 years old, four kids, a wife who loved him, a lifetime spent trying to build a better Italy. None of that saved him. And the people who could have saved him chose not to. I don't know whether that was because of Cold War politics, domestic power struggles, fear of what he knew, or all three,
Starting point is 00:43:04 Aldo Morrow was not just a victim of the Red Brigades. He was a victim of a political system that decided he was more useful, dead, than alive. And that should make you angry, not just sad, angry, because he wasn't a symbol or a chesspiece or a spiritual victory. He was a person. And he deserved better. Thanks so much for listening. I'm Carter Roy, and this is Murder, True Crime Stories. Come back next time for the story of another murder and all the people that affected.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And now I'm welcoming back, Dr. Harini Bot, the host of Hidden History, the debut show from Pave's new history studio, Rewind. And be sure to stick around after for a special preview of Hidden History. Rini, I am so excited to talk to you more. We'll get in all the things hidden history soon, but first I want to start with you. Your background is so fascinating. Can you share a little bit more about yourself? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:16 As you can maybe see from my name, I have a doctorate in pharmacy. This was not the career I was expecting to have by any stretch of imagination, but during COVID, I started posting science videos on TikTok. And as the saying goes, the rest is history, pun intended. And all of this came to Hidden History with Pave and the new Rewind series. So I'm really excited to start this because what I do with my channel is I tell science with context, which in my eyes is just the history. What is the story around the science? And that is basically what we're doing with hidden history.
Starting point is 00:44:51 We're talking about these unexplained mysteries, these unanswered questions. We're going into all the theories. But through all these stories is the through line of science. It's going to be really fascinating. I am completely hooked already just hearing about it, but also from listening to it. I mean, I am loving Hidden History so far. I feel like it really, it stands apart from other history shows because of how deep you go into the mystery of it, the science of it, the what of it. And that's what I think fans of murder, true crime stories will really love, especially because I know you're covering some murder mysteries on the show as well.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yeah, is one of my favorite things about Hidden History. When you think about history, so much of it seems settled. But the truth is there's still so much out there that we don't know. even for events that are seemingly explained. Case in point and spoilers are head, one of our early episodes is on The Princes and the Tower, which is a murder mystery that will feel right out of Game of Thrones, because the case actually took place during the wars that inspired it.
Starting point is 00:45:47 This happened at the tail end of the Wars of the Roses, a series of conflicts between two rival houses around the middle of the 15th century for the English throne. Sound familiar? Yeah, yes, both because I know a little about this and of course have watched Game of Thoreau. And this is what I love about the history, science, even the murder mystery conjunction, is really drilling down onto these things that feel like myths or lore or things we've heard, but you're like,
Starting point is 00:46:11 oh, there's real evidentiary fact behind it, which fascinates me. Right. When the dust started to settle, the heir to the throne was a teenage boy whose uncle decided he wanted the crown for himself. So he had the prince and his little brother imprisoned in the Tower of London, and they were never seen again. The settled history says they were murdered by one of their uncle's agents, but not everyone is so sure. And getting into those possibilities is one of the things I love most about Hidden History. I am sold. I went into that tower. I want to know what happened.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Harini, thank you so much for joining us. And before we get out of here, can you tell everyone where they can find Hidden History? Yes, you can check out new episodes every Monday on Apple Podcast or Spotify and on YouTube at Hidden History Pod. Follow and subscribe so you don't miss a moment. I really am a huge fan and I highly recommend the show. I can't wait to see where it goes. Thank you. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Thanks for being here. And of course, you're welcome back anytime. And thanks to all you for joining us. Murder True Crime Stories is a Crimehouse original powered by Pave Studios. Here at Crime House, we want to thank each and every one of you for your support. If you like what you heard today, reach out on social media at Crimehouse on TikTok and Instagram. Don't forget to rate, review, and follow Murder True Crime Stories wherever you get your podcasts. Your feedback truly makes a difference.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And to enhance your Murder True Crime Stories listening experience, subscribe to Crime House Plus on Apple Podcasts. You'll get every episode early and ad-free. We'll be back on Tuesday. Murder True Crime Stories is hosted by me, Carter Roy, and is a Crime House original powered by Pave Studios. This episode was brought to life by the murder True Crime Stories team. Max Cutler, Ron Shapiro, Alex Benadon, Natalie Pertsovsky, Lori Marinelli, Cassidy Dillon, and Russell Nash. Thank you for listening. When it comes to mass psychogenic illness, there's not much you can do to protect yourself.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Your mind and body weaponize your own belief against you, blurring the line between fiction and reality until a perceived threat is made. very real. And once it has you in its grip, there's no letting go. Before we get out of here, I want to introduce you guys to a segment we'll be doing at the end of each episode called If It Happened Today. As the name suggests, I'll be looking at the event in question and asking, what would it be like if it happened right now? So let's imagine that on a summer day in 2026, a young woman steps out of her downtown apartment and just starts dancing. Your first thought would probably be, this girl's on something, and you wouldn't be alone. It's actually been pointed out that the dancing plague has a lot of similarities to modern rave culture. The dancing plague has
Starting point is 00:49:08 even been called the world's longest rave. And think about it. People at raves go long stretches without food, water, or rest while they dance. Their movements aren't graceful or coordinated. Of course, there are plenty of rangers out there who aren't on drugs. And soon enough, people would realize this girl in the street isn't on them either. So maybe you'd think as more people join in, is this a flash mob, some sort of protest, maybe an event put on by an online streamer? I'm sure it would come off as all fun in games with bystanders live streaming to TikTok and every social media app until the dancers start collapsing. Doctors would take some of the dancers in for testing just to find that nothing is physically wrong with them. And all of a sudden, it would be
Starting point is 00:49:55 all over the internet. Endless Reddit theories, blog posts, and speculation. Maybe some fringe religious groups would take it as a sign that the apocalypse is here. One thing's for sure, there would be plenty of opinions on it. But eventually, with what we know about mass psychogenic illness now, someone would realize the truth? The question is, would anyone believe them? If we're actually thinking about it with a modern lens, like if that happened today, I think the best analogy is Havana syndrome. If the dancing plague happened, in 2026, I'm pretty sure scientists would label it as mass psychogenic illness. In other words, mass hysteria. In our current landscape, it's easy to go online and find a viewpoint that supports
Starting point is 00:50:36 your thinking. It can be a good way to seek out a community of like-minded people or fall into a dangerous echo chamber. Back in 1518, the ceremony at the shrine of St. Vitas helped the dancers feel like something was helping them, that they had found the solution to their curse. They united around a common cause and found a way through. But could that happen today in 2026? You tell me, would we be able to harness the fear that started our dancing play and work together to end it? Or maybe we succumb to it one by one until the whole world is one big, deadly party. Thanks for listening to this preview of my new show, Hidden History.
Starting point is 00:51:18 If you want to hear what happens next, follow Hidden History on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or subscribe. on YouTube. I'm Katie Ring, host of America's most infamous crimes. Each week, I take on one of the most notorious criminal cases in American history. Listen to and follow America's most infamous crimes available now wherever you get your podcast. Looking for your next listen, check out Hidden History with Dr. Horini Bot. Every Monday, Dr. Bot goes where history gets mysterious. Vanished civilizations, doomsday prophecies, and events that science still can't fully explain. Follow Hidden History Now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen.

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