Murder: True Crime Stories - SPECIAL: Halloween Murder Houses

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

On Halloween morning 2010, a teenage boy in Sandusky, Ohio, walked into a nightmare — his mother, stepfather, and brother brutally murdered in their beds. The investigation pointed to a troubled family member whose demons had long been kept at bay…until that night.Five years later, in a quiet South Carolina town, another family’s Halloween turned into horror. Four members of the Scott family were found slain inside their home — a massacre that baffled police for nearly a decade.In this chilling Halloween special, Carter Roy unravels two stories of family bonds twisted by violence, of killers hidden in plain sight, and of the haunting truth that sometimes…the real terror waits inside your own home. Murder: True Crime Stories is a Crime House Original Podcast, powered by PAVE Studios. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. For ad-free listening and early access to episodes, subscribe to Crime House+ on Apple Podcasts. Don’t miss out on all things Murder: True Crime Stories! Instagram: @Crimehouse TikTok: @Crimehouse Facebook: @crimehousestudios X: @crimehousemedia YouTube: @crimehousestudios To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is Crime House. We usually think of haunted houses as creepy manners on misty hilltops. They have gargoyles covered in cobwebs and old paintings with eyes that follow us wherever we go. But the houses that truly haunt us are the ones where real loss has taken place. On Halloween morning in 2010, 16-year-old Devin Griffin discovered his mother and stepdad murdered in their bedroom in Sandusky, Ohio. The tragic events that followed would forever change how Devin viewed the house his family once shared. Exactly five years later and hundreds of miles away, more lives were shattered in Pendleton, South Carolina. On Halloween night, four members of

the Scott family were brutally killed on their property, but the carnage wasn't the only shocking aspect of the crime. So was the killer's identity. Both events have served as a terrifying reminder that on Halloween, nowhere is safe, not even your own home. People's lives are like a story. There's a beginning, a middle, and an end, but you don't always know which part you're on. Sometimes the final chapter arrives far too soon, and we don't always get to know the real ending. I'm Carter Roy, and this is murder. True Crime Stories, a crime house original, powered by Pave Studios that comes out every Tuesday and Thursday.

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On Halloween morning, their bloody bodies were discovered in their Ohio. home. Authorities quickly honed in on a killer, but even after a thorough investigation, their motive remained a mystery. Next, we'll talk about a quadruple murder in Pendleton, South Carolina. Four members of the Scott family were found dead in a blood-soaked scene that looked straight out of a horror movie. For eight years, the case went unsolved, but in In 2003, a series of shocking revelations changed everything. All that and more coming up. In 2010, Devin Griffin woke up early on Halloween morning.

He was headed to church in Sandusky, Ohio. Only half awake, the 16-year-old. splashed water on his face and ran a comb through his short brown hair. He desperately wanted to crawl back into bed, but he was part of the choir and couldn't miss service. And so he quietly snuck out of the house while the rest of his family slept. When he got home a couple hours later, around 11 a.m., all he wanted was to relax. The house was quiet, so he assumed his mom and stepfather were sleeping in. Devon called out a quick hello through their closed bedroom door and went straight upstairs without waiting for a reply. The next couple of hours melted away

as he lay in bed playing video games, but by 1.30 in the afternoon, he still hadn't heard from his parents. Curious, he went back downstairs to the master bedroom and wrapped on the door. There was no response. Devin cautiously turned the knob and saw the outline of his mother, 46-year-old Susan Liskey, under her maroon comforter. Next to her was his stepfather, 53-year-old Bill Liskey. The blanket was pulled up, so he could just barely see their hair sticking out from the top. Devin couldn't believe they were sleeping in so late. He tiptoed over to Susan and gently shook her leg when she didn't move he pulled down the comforter the pillow was stained dark red and sopping wet at first devon thought his mom must be playing a Halloween prank on him he grabbed

her shoulder and started talking frantically begging her to wake up but soon he realized this was no joke. The 16-year-old burst out of the room, crying and screaming for help. He called his aunt, who then called 911, and the authorities rushed over. The detectives were shocked by what they found. Bill Liskey had been shot five times in the head at near point-blank range. There were no signs of a struggle. His arms lay peacefully by his side in what looked like a sleeping position. Detectives realized Bill had been killed while he was still unconscious. Susan, on the other hand, didn't look like she was sleeping. She was awkwardly positioned, leading authorities to believe her body may have been moved after she was killed somewhere else in the room. Sadly, that

wasn't the only grisly scene authorities found. When detectives swept the rest of the house, they noticed a locked door upstairs. The room belonged to Devon's 23-year-old brother Derek. Police eventually broke in and spotted his body in the fetal position in his bed. There were several gaping wounds on his head, indicating he'd been killed by blunt force trauma. Well, not long afterward, authorities made another terrifying discovery downstairs. A hammer, still sticky with gore, was stashed in a closet. This meant that They'd found at least one of the murder weapons. The scene was one of the most violent the Sandusky detectives had ever witnessed.

They wrapped Devin in a shock blanket and asked him if he had any idea who might have done something like this. The 16-year-old thought for a moment, tears still running down his face. There was only one person on his mind, though it broke his heart to say it. He immediately gave police the name of his... stepbrother, 24-year-old BJ. Before Devin left for church, he saw BJ outside the family home, getting ready to run some errands. Now, BJ was nowhere to be found. Investigators immediately dug into BJ's records, and what they found set off all kinds of alarm bells. BJ had a serious criminal record. He took medication,

for mental illness and had a history of being violent with his family. His catalog of crimes went back eight years. His first brush with the law was in 2002 when he was just 16 years old. That was a year after his dad, Bill Liskey, married his stepmom, Susan. At the time, BJ was getting in trouble at school for misbehaving and skipping class. Susan imposed some new rules in the house aimed at getting him back on track but this turned into a fight

when BJ refused to comply at one point he even threatened to harm himself Bill called the police when they tried to intervene BJ turned violent he attacked the officers leading to charges in juvenile court the Liskey family had tried

to get him the help he needed but living with B.J. continued to be a challenge. In 2004, when he was 18, he got into another violent argument with his stepmom. The fight ended after he punched her in the chest. Then only two months later, he attacked her again, striking Susan with a coffee cup before swiping her car keys and taking off in her vehicle. That earned him charges for felonious assault and robbery. The state ended up dropping its case against him after Bill and Susan decided not to press charges.

But Susan's sons, Devin and Derek, were adamant that something had to be done. They wanted their stepbrother to stay away from their mom. Bill agreed. Soon afterward, he kicked B.J. out of the house. Susan, Devin, and Derek weren't the only ones who were happy to see him go. The family friend who lived next door, Mark Gradle, suspected BJ of being responsible for a number of murdered neighborhood pets. Though he never had any proof, someone had shot Mark's dog with 22 caliber bullets, and he thought it looked like BJ's handiwork. Even so,

Bill insisted BJ was harmless as long as he took his medication. The problem was, B.J. would randomly stop taking his pills, leading him to spiral. Bill wondered if his son just needed a more structured living situation. After kicking B.J. out, Bill and Susan found a local group home for mental health patients for him to stay in. B.J. was combative there, too, leading staff to call the cops on at least three occasions. But no matter how complicated the relationship between father and son, had become, Bill still loved BJ, and by 2010, they seemed to be in a better place. It had been a while since BJ had an episode, and he seemed more cooperative in his group

home, so a week before Halloween, Bill took a week off work to go on a hunting trip with BJ, who was then 24. The two drove down to the family's cabin in Carroll County about two and a half hours south of Sandusky. They spent a happy week together hunting and taking in the great outdoors. There were no signs of conflict, just good old-fashioned father-son bonding. On October 30th, they went back home and had a small party with some family friends. Mark Gradle, the neighbor who was suspicious of BJ, was there. He told the police there was no sign of friction that night. The get-together continued until around midnight. Since Bill had been drinking, he decided not to drive BJ back to his group home.

Instead, he set up a bed for him on the sofa downstairs. The next morning was Halloween. Mark Gradle's wife, Michelle, was woken up at around 6.30 by what sounded like gunshots. Since her neighbors were avid hunters and occasionally did target practice in their yard, she didn't report the noise to police. Around three hours later, 16-year-old Devin Liskey pulled up the driveway of his home. While Bill and B.J. were out on their hunting trip, he'd spent the week with his own father. He'd only come home that morning for a few minutes to change into his church clothes.

As he parked outside, he spotted his stepbrother, loading, some bags into Bill's pickup. Devin said BJ was unusually chipper that morning. Usually their interactions were brief, but for whatever reason, BJ took the time to strike up a conversation with Devin, asking about his plans for the day. He was particularly interested in how long Devin planned to be away at church. Devin answered his questions, but didn't have much time for small talk, he ran upstairs, changed into his choir outfit, and hopped back into his car. Before he left, BJ said he was just going out for a quick errand and that he'd be back soon. Devin said goodbye and pulled out of the drive. He didn't want to be late for the morning service. A few hours later,

Devin returned from church to find his mom, brother, and stepfather dead in their house. Police didn't want to jump to any conclusions, but after hearing the 16-year-old account, BJ became suspect number one. They put out an all-point bulletin to search for Bill's F-150 truck. In the meantime, they searched the Liskie's home, looking for the gun used in the murders. After failing to locate it, they spread out and searched the surrounding area. One investigator spotted a muddy footprint next to a nearby pond, leading them to believe the culprit had tossed the gun in the water. They got a crew out to drain it while a canine team searched the rest of the property. In the meantime, officers fanned out across Ohio to search for BJ, and by that point

he'd been missing for at least four hours and giving him quite a head start, but authorities had some idea of where he might end up. Several detectives raced onto the highway, heading south toward the family's hunting cabin in Carroll County. Their instincts were dead on. Police burst through the doors and caught BJ by surprise. He was taken into custody without incident and charged with three counts of aggravated murder. At the station, BJ appeared to be in a kind of days. His responses to detectives were not only short and vague,

but he refused to explain his behavior. Eventually, investigators allowed him to speak to his mother over the phone. When she asked why he did it, all he said was he wasn't in his right mind. A moments later, he became distraught and told her he couldn't talk about it anymore. After hanging up, he seemed to have a change of heart. He began cooperating with investigators and announced that he would plead. guilty. In 2011, B.J. was given three life sentences with no chance of parole. He would later say, I loved my dad very much, and it makes me feel sick every time I think about what I did.

I can't really explain why this all had to happen, but I think most of it all had to do with my mental illness. In 2015, B.J. was found dead in his prison cell at the age of 20, his death was ruled a suicide the story of the liskey family is one of compassion and loss despite their troubles bill susan and derrick loved bj and tried to get him the help he needed sadly their bond was shattered by a tragic act of violence that can never be undone even so devon hasn't let resentment shape his life every year on Halloween, he honors the memories of his mother, brother, and stepfather. Since their deaths, he's graduated high school, gotten married, and had a child of his own. Recently, his family all dressed up in Superman costumes to go trick-or-treating. Devin is determined to show his son the beauty of Halloween. His attitude should be an inspiration to us all. Five years after the Liskey family tragedy, another small town faced its own Halloween horror story.

Mike and Kathy Scott lived in Pendleton, South Carolina, and to them, family was everything. The couple was especially close with their elderly mothers. Since both women were widowed, they shared a gray double-wide trailer on my mother. Mike and Kathy's property. Kathy's 32-year-old daughter, Amy Valardi, also lived in her own trailer on the compound with her two children and new husband, Ross. With so many people, things could get hectic, but Mike and Kathy wouldn't have it any other way.

On Halloween night in 2015, the couple was enjoying a mellow night in. Mike had a brief phone call with his sister Pam, who he talked to every day. day, Pam would later report that nothing seemed wrong during their chat. Only Mike didn't call Pam the next day, as usual, or the day after that. This was strange. He rarely ever missed a check-in. Kathy's daughter, Amy Valardi, also started to worry. She was used to seeing her mom every morning walking the dog. But for two days, there was no sign of her. On November 2nd, Amy decided to go to the house. When she knocked on the back door, it creaked open.

Amy crept into the dark entryway and fumbled for the light. As soon as she flipped the switch, she screamed. The bodies of Mike, his 80-year-old mother Barbara, and Kathy's 82-year-old mother, Violet, lay slumped over each other on the hardwood floor. Blood spattered the walls, the floor, and the sofa. Amy's mother, Kathy, was nowhere to be seen. Amy ran out the back door and called the police.

Investigators were horrified by the gory scene. Mike, Barbara, and Violet had all been stabbed repeatedly and shot twice. Not only were their throat slashed, but there were also wounds on their chests, Still shaken by the state of the victims, police searched the house for Kathy. They found her body upstairs in her bedroom. She had been shot and stabbed just as brutally as the others. The cops collected all the evidence they could. A photographer painstakingly took pictures from every possible angle.

And several of them, bloody footprints could be seen on the floor. Detectives noticed that most of them were barefoot and likely belonged to the victims, but there were shoe prints too. These were probably left by the killer. While they searched the scene, curious onlookers gathered outside the police tape. It didn't take long for word to spread through Pendleton. With only 3,500 residents, it was a close-knit town. Amy Valardi and her husband, a 28-year-old former Marine named Ross,

received an outpouring of support. No one could believe a local was responsible for such brutal murders. For their part, the police were stumped. There were no signs of forced entry that, combined with how violent the crimes were, led them to believe the victims had known their killer. But no one knew what the motive could have been. Amy and the rest of the family insisted that Mike and Kathy were just ordinary members of the community. Mike worked for the Department of Transportation and was nearing retirement. On the side, he's sometimes bought and sold gold. Kathy was a former waitress who cared for Barbara and Violet full time.

They were loving, honest people. Investigators dug deep, searching for a dark secret that might explain the family's grim fate. After countless hours pouring over personal. text messages and financial records, they didn't find any obvious culprits, but they did settle on a possible motive. Money. After a lifetime of hard work, Mike and Kathy had accumulated some modest savings, but they didn't trust their cash with the local banks. Instead, they kept tens of thousands of dollars secreted away in their home. And after the murder,

Most of that money was missing. So the question became, who knew about the cash and was willing to kill to get it? Detectives combed through Mike's social media looking for an answer. He did business in cash, sometimes buying gold using eBay and Facebook ads. That reminded authorities of another recent murder in the area. In that case, a man had been killed by someone. he met online. The murderer set up the fatal meeting by posing as a potential customer and asking to buy jewelry from the victim. The culprit was caught, but investigators wondered if this was a

copycat crime. But when they looked into Kathy's text messages, then they started to develop a new theory. It turned out, Mike and Kathy didn't get along with everybody. Well, just like any other family, had some personal drama, and most of it had to do with Kathy's daughter, Amy Valardi. Though she lived only 50 yards away from her mom, Amy and Kathy weren't on the best terms. Kathy believed her daughter was irresponsible, especially when it came to her children. Amy liked to go out on the town and rarely held down a full-time job for long. Recently, she and Ross had been running a dog grooming business together, but they were having trouble making ends meet. According to Friends of the Family, Mike and Kathy were heavily

involved in raising their grandchildren. Kathy's brothers even claimed that Amy used her kids to extort money from her mom. She always seemed to be low on funds and had a reputation for spending recklessly. But that was only one side of the story. In Amy's opinion, her mom was an intrusive narcissist who butted into her life too often. She said as much to friends in text messages. However, one neighbor reported overhearing Amy saying something much worse, that her mother would be better off dead. With threats like that, it seemed inevitable that the two would have major falling out and only a few months before the Halloween murders in the summer of 2015 that's exactly what happened it was the 4th of july mike and kathie's church had an independent stay

picnic and they brought amy's kids when they came back to the family compound that night they saw that amy and her then boyfriend ross were having a party with some friends in their trailer because there was drinking involved, Mike and Kathy decided the grandkid should stay over at their place for the night. Amy disagreed. She wanted her children to sleep in their own beds. When Mike tried to talk it out with her, a screaming match erupted on the lawn. It ended with Amy vowing never to speak to her mother or stepdad ever again. A months passed with little to no contact between the families, even though they lived right next door to each other. Finally, a week or so before the murders, Amy and Ross got married at the local courthouse. Mike, not Kathy, swallowed

his bride and went over to congratulate the couple. He apologized for fighting on the 4th of July and the family's made up. Or so it seemed. After hearing about the blow up, Amy and Ross became prime suspects in the quadruple murder, and when detectives searched their trailer, they found $67,000 in cash, which they confiscated and took into evidence. Police believe the money was stolen from Mike and Kathy, but Amy and Ross claimed it was their life savings earned through their dog grooming business. Amy insisted that, like her mother, she distrusted banks and kept money on hand in her home. Investigators ran a DNA test on the money, hoping to find blood or some other physical evidence that tied it to the Scott family. The results were inconclusive.

Police still suspected the stash was stolen, but they didn't have any hard evidence to prove it. That meant it was time to go back to the drawing board. And when the autopsy reports finally came back, detectives gained insight into the night of the murders. The medical examiner determined the stab wounds were delivered by a long knife with at least a seven-inch blade. It also likely had a cross-guard dividing the hilt from the blade, and this wasn't the kind of thing you'd see on a regular knife. It was more like what you'd find on a sword or special knives designed for military combat. And because all the victims were both shot and stabbed, investigators theorized there may have been more than one killer. It would have been unusual for a single murderer to alternate between different

weapons. Based on the state of the bodies, they also determined that Mike was likely the first target. Being the sole man in the house, the killer or killers might have wanted to take him out first. Meanwhile, Barbara and Violet, the two 80-year-old women, sustained many wounds that showed self-defense. Violet was nearly decapitated while Barbara was stabbed six times in her neck, chest, and shoulder. These results provided investigators with a tentative timeline. More importantly, it was consistent with their primary suspects, Amy and Ross. If the two of them worked together, that would explain why multiple weapons were used. And Ross was a former Marine, so he was trained in military combat. He could have easily overpowered 58-year-old Mike and two women.

When detectives questioned him about the military knife called a K-bar that all soldiers receive, Ross said he wasn't sure he ever had one. If he did, he had no idea where it might be now. The detectives didn't buy that for a minute. In their mind, the case against Amy and Ross Valardi was steadily building up. But most of the clues, were circumstantial and relied on testimony from overheard conversations or emotional text messages. So far, the police still hadn't found the murder weapon or any other hard evidence they could use in a courtroom. That's what they needed if they ever wanted to hold the killers responsible. For that, they would need some help from an unlikely source.

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Valardi as their number one suspects. But even though they had a strong motive, police weren't able to definitively tie Amy and her husband to the crime. One of the few pieces of evidence they did have was a bloody shoe print taken from the victim's living room. Experts analyzed the unique tread on the print and determined it belonged to an A6 brand speed star running shoe. Now they just had to figure out if Amy or Ross own that particular model. Detective scoured social media posts and photographs of the couple, hoping to spot one of them wearing the shoes in question. But after an exhaustive search, they weren't able to find a picture that corroborated their theory.

Investigators were disappointed. The shoe was all they had to go on. Soon, the case stalled. Months passed away without any new breakthroughs. Detectives reached out to the community asking for tips, but no new leads surfaced. Gradually, enthusiasm in the department waned, and the case ran cold. The lack of progress frustrated everyone, including Amy and Ross Valardi. In 2016, they sued the local sheriff's office, but it wasn't because they were angry that the killer hadn't been identified.

Rather, it was because the $67,000 the police constantly. confiscated from them hadn't been returned. The authorities still believed the money was stolen from Mike and Kathy Scott, although they hadn't been able to prove it. Now, two years later, a judge sided with the police. He denied the Volardi's motion, saying the money couldn't be released without a trial. Amy and Ross were furious, but they weren't the only ones with complaints about the way the case was being handled. It was hard for many people in Pendleton to believe that the murders

remained unsolved after more than two years of investigation. But the police were trapped in a holding pattern. Without new evidence, they couldn't charge their primary suspects with anything. And if they pushed for a trial without hard proof, they risk losing the jury's vote and letting the perpetrators walk free. Mike and Kathy Scott's surviving relatives knew that they needed a champion. Someone who could find what the cops had missed and connect the final pieces of the puzzle. Mike's sister Pam worked to spread the word about the case through newspapers, online messaging boards, and even on TV shows. Finally, in 2003, she got an answer to their prayers when the hosts of the Oxygen TV series Cold Justice took an interest in the case.

Prosecutor Kelly Siegler and former detective Steve Spengola traveled to Pendleton to talk over the investigation with local authorities. And when they arrived, they found a town hungry for answers. Mike and Kathy's relatives, neighbors, and friends were all eager to share their suspicions about Amy and Ross. By the end of their interviews, Kelly and Steve believed investigators were on the wrong. right track. But building a strong case was easier said than done. Luckily, Cole Justice called in some backup. First, they brought in a social media expert to dig through Amy and Ross Velardi's Facebook posts one by one. It wasn't an easy task. Amy posted a lot, but eventually the search bore some fruit. The expert was able to confirm the falling out between Amy and her mother

just months before the murders took place. More importantly, he also found a missing link between the cash, the police confiscated, and the money Mike Scott kept in his house. Thanks to two remarkably clear Facebook photos, the expert matched the serial numbers of several hundred dollar bills to both Mike and Ross. Though it wasn't a smoking gun,

it showed that the money in Ross's trailer had originally belonged to Mike. Amy and Ross still might be able to argue that Mike gave them the money voluntarily, but it was a good start. The discovery prompted police to take another look at text records between Amy and Ross. They discovered that the couple's finances were definitely strained prior to the murder. A month earlier, Ross texted his wife to tell. tell her they only had $40 left in their business account. In just two weeks before Halloween in 2015,

Amy contacted her husband about debt collectors coming into their shop. Both of these findings contradicted the couple's previous claim that they had a steady income from their dog grooming business and savings totaling $67,000. Things just weren't adding up. And soon, police found their smoking gun. Late on the night of the murders, Amy asked her husband to run to the store to grab a six-pack of beer. When detectives pulled up the surveillance footage from a nearby convenience store, they were astounded by what they found.

On video, Ross Velardi was caught wearing A6 Speed Star running shoes. the exact model found at the scene of the crime. All of a sudden, the cold case was heating back up. Finally, detectives could use the footprint evidence against Ross, but they weren't ready to make an arrest just yet. They needed to make sure their case was airtight before bringing it to trial. And once again, the staff on the Cold Justice TV show gave them what they needed. they caught Ross on camera making statements that contradicted what he told police immediately after the crime.

Back in 2015, Ross and Amy insisted they were at home the night of Halloween with their two kids. But in 2003, Ross told Cold Justice that his parents were watching the kids that night. He went on to say that he and Amy left at one point to pick up the children. from his parents' house. Well, that didn't just go against his previous statements, but it was also contradicted by cell phone location data. Those records firmly placed the Valardis at or near their trailer during the estimated time of the murders.

Investigators believed Ross was trying to create a new alibi for himself eight years after the fact, as if that wasn't damning enough, Amy's cousin said she often saw Ross carrying around a military combat knife. The kind of weapon he told detectives, he didn't recall ever owning. Soon after this, police were finally ready to strike. They arrested Ross and Amy outside their home. The couple was charged with four counts of murder. In February of 2024, a judge,

denied their requests for bond as of this recording they're currently still awaiting trial after our eight long years police believe they finally found the people who killed mike kathy barbara and violet regardless of what happens at trial we can only hope their family finds closure soon And after so long, it's time for the ghosts of the past to be put to rest. Thanks so much for listening. I'm Carter Roy, and this is Murder True Crime Stories. Come back next week for the story of a new murder and to all the people it affected. murder true crime stories is a crime house original powered by pave studios here at crime house

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