Murder With My Husband - 164. Ana Walshe - The Ongoing Case

Episode Date: May 15, 2023

On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the ongoing investigation of Ana Walshe and how her husband is being accused of her murder.  https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband Cnn.com, “Prosecutors detail extensive evidence in murder case against Brian Walshe, accused of killing his wife Ana Walshe. Here’s what we know,” by Kristina Sgueglia and Elizabeth Wolfe, January 19, 2023   Cnn.com, “Brian Walshe denied bail after prosecutor says he stood to gain $2.7 million in life insurance for the death of Ana Walshe,” by Holly Yan, April 27, 2023   Cnn.com, “A timeline of the missing Massachusetts mother Ana Walshe and her husband Brian Walshe,” by Eric Levenson, Amanda Watts and Holly Yan, May 3, 2023   Foxnews.com, “Missing Ana Walshe: Romance with Brian Walshe was ‘love at first sight,’” by Rebecca Rosenberg, Adam Sabes, Stephanie Pagones, January 13, 2023 Wbur.org, “Prosecutors say Brian Walshe, who is charged with killing wife, suspected affair,” by Kathy McCormack, April 27, 2023   7News Boston, whdh.com, “Court documents detail husband of missing woman’s rocky family history,” by Jonathan Hall, Michael Yoshida, January 10, 2023   People.com, “Mass. Mom Ana Walshe Had Months-Long Affair with Man in Washington D.C. Before She Vanished: Court Docs,” by Tristan Balagtas, May 3, 2023   Cbsnews.com, “Ana and Brian Walshe’s 3 children in state custody as investigation continues,” by Brandon Truitt, January 12, 2023   Cbsnews.com, “Brian Walshe accused: What we’ve learned about the alleged murder of Ana Walshe,” by Kerry Breen, April 27, 2023   Cbsnews.com, “I-Team obtains Brian Walshe booking photos from 2018 arrest,” by Cheryl Fiandaca, January 14, 2023   Nbcboston.com, “Missing Cohasset Woman’s Husband Was Described as Violent, Deceptive During Probate Case,” by Ryan Kath, January 10, 2023   Insider.com, “Here’s everything we know about what Brian Walshe did in the days, weeks, and years surrounding Ana Walshe’s disappearance,” no author provided, January 18, 2023   Boston.com, “Court docs confirm Ana Walshe affair, which prosecutors referenced as possible motive,” by Abby Patkin, May 3, 2023   Crimegrade.org   Google maps   Apartments.com, 516 Chief Justice Cushing Highway   Thedailybeast.com, “Police Spoke With Man Having Alleged Affair With Ana Walshe Before Murder: Report,” by Dan Ladden-Hall, April 28, 2023   Thesalemnews.com, “Husband of missing woman had business, personal ties to North Shore,” by Julie Manganis, January 10, 2023   Masslive.com, “Who is Brian Walshe? Court records show two versions of missing Cohasset woman’s husband,” by Chris Van Buskirk, January 12, 2023   Bostonherald.com, “Who is Brian Walshe, Part I? A clash over his father’s estte,” by Flint McColgan, January 10, 2023   Boston25news.com, “Brian Walshe: Court docs reveal struggles with mental health, relationship between Ana & his mother,” by Lindsey Thorpe, Boston 25 News Staff and Litsa Pappas, Boston 25 News, January 11, 2023   Boston25news.com, “’He assumed a mantle of entitlement’: Family friend describes Brian Walshe’s scheming behavior,” by Drew Karedes, January 11, 2023   Assisted research and writing by Diane Birnholz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey everybody welcome back to the podcast. This is murder with my husband. I'm Peyton Morales and I'm Garrett Morales And he's the husband. I'm husband. You are watching on YouTube Probably know we are back in our set Apologize for everything going on in Some corner over here. We are currently fixing and redoing a couple of things Okay, before we get into Garrett's 10 seconds I wanted to remind everyone about our dear daisy episodes and that we need your true crime stories, your horror stories, your paranormal stories.

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Well, we were back from Colorado and we did a collab with Josh and Kendall from mile higher. It was super fun. Back just Peyton and I. Ready? And Daisy, ready to go. A bunch of people mentioned that it sounded like I had a list. And the episode, and I think it was just something with my mic.

Okay, so this is actually funny. When we sat down to record, I turned a gear and I said, why do you have a list? I don't, yeah. And so I think it was just something with my mic. Something was off, I don't know. But I don't have a list? I don't, yeah. And so I think it was just something with my mic, something was off, I don't know. But I don't have a list as far as I know. Maybe I do, nobody was just that episode.

Yeah. Because no one's ever said anything before. Yeah. So hopefully I sound a little bit better now. If I have a list, then I don't know if something happened to me. And yeah, now you got this? Now I have a list. But no, I think it was just a mic

I think something was just going on, but all is good now, but thanks to everyone who's concerned I know it probably played mine tricks on you. I know we are actually going to see Guardians of the Galaxy this weekend From other day super excited about that. I've been wanting to see it. It's probably my favorite Marvel franchise or Marvel. Yeah, movie. What about you, babe? What's your favorite? Well, it's hard. I've never seen Guardians. Crazy person. Currently right now with everything I've seen Captain America. I probably like... Oh no, Thor. The Spider-Man movies? Okay. Yeah, because we've only watched up, so that's why you're thinking that but I have seen the spider-man movies before it Well, obviously like Tom Holland and Zendaya. Yeah, you can't get it. You can't go right there

I also love that in the spider-man's Iron Man makes appearances like it because I really like Iron Man too So I just I think I just like that one the most yeah so on that note besides me having a list and us going to see Garnd of the Galaxy, kind of just been hanging out. So let's get into today's episode, just a reminder. If you want ad free content, bonus content, we have both Apple subscriptions and Patreon. You get ad free content.

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Harold. Okay, this week for our case, we are doing something a little bit different. We're covering a case that's ongoing as we speak. A case that's been playing out for the past few months in real time over in Massachusetts. The events we're talking about are very recent. This case has been widely covered in the press, although you're probably going to hear many more details in our podcast today than you may have already known. There is a man sitting in prison right now accused of first-degree murder, but there hasn't been a trial yet. In our system of justice, a criminal defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

This defendant, again, has not yet been proven guilty in a court of law. Here are the facts of our case this week. Anna Olchupisik was born in Belgrade, Serbia in 1983. Her mother is Melonka Olchupisik. Anna is smart and accomplished, and she actually graduates from the University of Belgrade with a degree in French language and literature. Anna then comes to the United States and earns her master's degree in hospitality management from Cornell University. Ah, sounds familiar. I actually got my degree in that as well. Anna is petite at five foot two and 115 pounds

and she's very beautiful. She's kind of known for her beauty. Ana is working at the upscale Wheatley Hotel in the resort area of the Berkshire's in Massachusetts. And it's there that she first meets a man named Brian Walsh. At this point, Ana is only 25 years old. By one account, Ana is a reservations manager at the hotel, but by a family members account, they meet when Ana cleans Brian's apartment. In any event, Ana first meets Brian in 2008, and Ana says that it's love at first sight. Brian, though, is about seven or eight years older than Ana, and he comes from a very well-to-do family. Brian Reza Walsh was born on August 17, 1976, to Diana and Thomas M. Walsh, and he's

an only child. Brian goes to boarding school in Rhode Island and to a private school in Boston. He will then attend Carnegie Mellon University. His dad, Dr. Thomas Walsh, is a very well-respected neurosurgeon working in Boston. And Dr. Walsh was working as the chief of neurology at the Virginia Medical Center in Bedford, Massachusetts. And by 2008, when his son and on a first meet, he has become the head of the Brigham and Women's Hospital Division of General Neurology, where he'll serve from 2005 to 2018. Got it.

So essentially, Brian's dad is just smart. Very smart. And he owns a beachfront home in Massachusetts. So smart and got's a little bit of money. Not as much is known about Brian's mother, except that she and Brian are close and that she depends on Brian quite heavily. Now after meeting in 2008, Anna and Brian start dating and they maintain a long distance relationship. Anna apparently is now working in DC at the Willard Intercontinental Hotel and she eventually moves to Boston to be with Brian when she and Brian get married.

On December 15th, 2015, after dating for years, they got married in a fairy tale wedding in Boston. Their reception is at a now-shuttered French restaurant in Boston and the wedding photos are just beautiful. According to Fox News, Anna Walsh stands beside her husband, beaming in a fairy-tale white tool dress, a long veil, and an elaborate beaded necklace as she clutches a bouquet of roses. That's what's described of the wedding. In attendance at the wedding, where a few dozen family members and friends, however, not one member of the groom's family was present. That's weird. Yeah, and we're gonna come back to that late. At the entire wedding?

At the entire wedding. All right, so there's obviously some sort of drama going on. Right. So soon after getting married, Anna and Brian start a family. They will go on to have three sons. Anna and Brian have their first child

about a year after they get married. And on September 17th, 2018, three years after their wedding, Anna buys a property on Edward Road in Marblehead, Massachusetts, and she pays about $510,000 for it. Brian isn't listed as a co-owner, but according to cellmnews.com, he's listed on a declaration of homestead for the Marblehead property, which means that it's going to be a family home, most likely. Then that same month,

Brian sets up an entity called Morecraft Wines, which is purportedly a wine brokerage business, and he lists the Edward property as the business address. Okay, do you think that she knows that he's doing this or that he listed that? You think it's like a talked about thing? Yeah, we'll get to that. Okay. On Valentine's Day in 2019, Brian gives on a 2015

Maserati worth over $100,000. Done. On a post about the Maserati online on her Instagram saying that it was quote, the best Valentine's present of her life. And that Brian, quote, makes all of my childhood dreams come true. In November 2020, on a sales the property on Edgewood Road in Marblehead for $840,000. This is a $330,000 profits since she bought it two years earlier. And I mean, for all accounts, their lives seem to be charmed.

They're doing well financially. They seem to be in love. Anna is described as a very driven business woman and sharp as attack. She switches from a career in hospitality, working at hotels, to a career in real estate. And she begins working as the director of operations at the Mootloo Group.

This is a real estate firm in Massachusetts. Okay. Around 2020, Anna reportedly owns four properties, because she's gotten into real estate. She started working as a real estate agent and she starts buying up properties in DC, Massachusetts, and Maryland. And they're all in her name.

Brian is not listed on any of them. Which, I guess you can't really say that's a red flag right now. No. Everyone has different relationship with finances and marriages and combined accounts and joint accounts and not joint accounts and all that. In early 2022, honest sells the family's home in Massachusetts for 1.3 million, which had been in her name only, and the family together starts renting a home with a pool.

In this home is in Cohaset, Massachusetts, which is a wealthy coastal suburb of Boston, and it's the scene of our case. So in 2022, the Walsh family moves into this $1 million rental house. And the home is less than a mile from the beach, which... That's amazing. That's amazing. In February or March of 2022, Anna Leafs her job at the Mootloo Group and takes a new job for an international real estate firm called Tishman Spayer, where she begins working

as a real estate investment manager. But the catch is that this job is in Washington DC. So with the family of five living in Coheset, Massachusetts, Anna now commutes to DC every week for her job and returns to Massachusetts on the weekends. At this point, Brian is primarily staying home to raise their three little boys and Anna is taking the role as provider for the family. So she buys a town home in DC and that's where she stays during the week. On January 1st, 2023, Anna is the mother of the three young boys that she has with Brian

and their two, four and six years old. She's 39 years old and Brian is 47. So this is just a couple months ago. Brian's father has now passed away, but his mom is living only about an hour away. Anna is described as a loving wife and mother. She's also described as a force to be reckoned with. Anna volunteers for an organization helping immigrants called Sky International Center. And her mom still lives in Belgrade, Serbia Serbia as well as all of her family members. It's basically safe to say the Walsh family is living the American Dream in early 2023.

They're enjoying a very upscale life in a very upscale community. They have three boys. He's a stay-at-home dad. She works. I mean, on the outside, it seems like everything is fine. Right. So to back up a little bit on December 30th, 2022, Anna flies home from DC to Massachusetts for the New Year's holiday. She's been doing this back

and forth all the time. This is very regular. She's planning to be home for about four days and then she'll fly back to DC on January 3rd. On New Year's Eve, Anna and Brian have a very small New Year's Eve gathering at their home. And they have their friend, Gem Mutlu over. He is the one and Anna's former boss at the Mutlu group. They have a festive evening within an elaborate meal. And according to Daily Mail, Gem says his former employee has been sitting on a bar stool in the kitchen texting her friends during the meal and party.

So he basically says during this New Year's Eve party, Anna is busy on her phone texting other friends. Yes, Gem leaves the Walsh's house at about 1.30 a.m. on what is now January 1st, 2023, and everything seems to find him. According to one source, a family member other than Brian sees Anna in the wee hours of January 1 after Jim leaves. Presumably this would be one of the kids, so one of their kids must wake up and see mom. However, most sources don't mention this and say that other than Brian, Jim was the last

person to see Anna that night. And it is important to add that the three young wall children are at home this night as well. The first sign that not everything is fine comes three days later on January 4th, 2023 when on a doesn't show up for work in DC. Remember she's supposed to fly back. She doesn't make it. It's always

not showing up for work always. On as employer reports her missing to the Massachusetts police and tells the police that on a didn't show up for work is expected that day. Is that weird that he reported so quickly? I feel like, maybe he just didn't have the ability to contact, he didn't know Brian's number and so he was like, I might as well just go to police.

I guess so. I feel like, but most employers, like if you work for a company, it's like, oh, they're not here today. I'll wait a day or I'll wait two days or I'll wait three days. I'll try to contact the family or a friend. I mean, I'm glad he did it. Obviously, but super interesting. According to one source, the police receive a simultaneous missing persons report from

both on as employer and from Brian on January 4th. So not only the employer goes to police, but Brian does as well. However, according to Daily Mail, the log shows that on January 4th, the Washington, DC, head of security for real estate firm, Tishman Spayer, called police in Massachusetts, where Walsh lived to request a welfare check. Okay, you guys, we are getting into an ad. I know you guys have both heard the story about how Garrett and I were both paying separately for peacock. Then we used rocket money and realized how dumb we are and are so happy rocket money

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better help, help.com slash husband. So two people called the police and then also the security calls Massachusetts and says, can you do a welfare check on this employee? I feel like they're going hard so early. I think it's pretty safe to assume that Anna was important in her industry, important at work, which is maybe why everyone is jumping on this so fast. The man who called told the operator that he had informed a while, she's husband Brian that she was missing too.

So maybe when Brian goes to police, it's because her work called and said she didn't even show up to work. The police go to the Walsh's home on January 4th after Tishman Speyer reports on a missing. Brian is there at home. He speaks to the police multiple times. He tells the police that he and Anna went to bed right after their friend Gem left. That was back on New Year's Day. Then at 6am on New Year's Day, Anna tells him that she has an unexpected work emergency and that she needs to fly back to DC.

She kisses Brian goodbye and tells him to go back to sleep. According to Brian, she leaves their house some time between 6 and 7am. And he says that's the last time he sees her. I feel like right away it's gonna be pretty easy to check if she had a plane ticket. Right. So Brian later tells police that she normally takes an Uber or a lift or a taxi to the airport and that she'd been flying out of Logan. He says that a babysitter came to their house that afternoon and then at 3 p.m. on January 1st, Brian says he left at 3 p.m. to go grocery shopping.

Brian says he then went to see his mother at 4 p.m. She lives an hour away, but the trip that day took him longer than that. He says he got lost on his way to his mother's house. Oh, man, Brian. And that this is because he didn't have his cell phone. I mean, you know your mom lives, man. Right. Brian claims that one of his boys must have hidden his cell phone. I mean, you know your mom lives, man. Right. Ryan claims that one of his

boys must have hidden his cell phone. And because of it, he wasn't able to use GPS. That means he also didn't take his cell phone on this. And who really leaves without their cell phone these days? Right. Nobody. Especially if you're leaving kids home with a babysitter. Exactly. About 15 minutes after he got to his mother's house, he says he started running errands for her. He went to Whole Foods and CVS for his mother. According to Brian, he called on his company to see if she'd shown up for work. Initially, police believe that Brian is being cooperative. However, police begin to notice something odd about Brian's car that day. His back seats are down and there's a plastic liner inside the back of his car. So January 4th, honest missing,

husband's claiming she left basically January 1st to go back to DC. That whole day, he was gone, he didn't have his phone, he was running errands for his mother. That's his alibi essentially. On January 5th, police go out to the Walsh House again, and they notice something else that's odd. Now the plastic liner that they had seen in Brian's car the day before is missing. The police

asked him about it and he says he threw the plastic liner out. The police can see vacuum marks on the carpeting inside Brian's car as though he'd just been cleaning out his car. Okay. Meanwhile, the police, of course, follow up on Brian's story to see if it checks out so that they can figure out what happened to his wife. At this point, do they have phone records? Have they looked into phone records, GPS, like where she is and you know that? It's gonna take time.

Those records always take time because you have to get a subpoena. Oh, that sucks. Cause it would be so much easier to be like, like we need her last location now. Where is it? They've probably put in the request. It's just gonna take time. Yeah.

And while police are following up on Brian's story, to see if it checks out, they quickly discover some inconsistencies with Brian's account of what transpired that day. They learn that Anna's cell phone pinged in the area of their home and could have sit on January 1st and January 2nd. So there's no way she could have gone,

but her phone isn't gone. Her phone isn't gone. Also, no activity had happened on Anna's credit card since then. Brian has said that he lost her misplaced his cell phone on January 1st. However, investigators determined that it was plugged in that day and was at the house because it was peeing. The police also find out that one of the family's cell phones had left the house that day. Their oldest child, the six-year-olds cell phone left the house on January 1st. Dang, that's, that's

pretty young. They have a phone. I mean, I agree. But, kids these days. I know. This different times. Different times. So the cell phone tracks is having gone to two stores. Police follow up and confirm that Brian is seen on videotape at these two stores supposedly carrying the six-year-olds cell phone with him. Okay, he's because his is lost, but it's actually plugged in in the house. Yeah, Brian's just, if it's not him, I don't know, but this is, he's looking suspicious. I agree. There's no way you're not a suspect during all this. Strike one was just being the husband. Yeah, and then Strike two was... My cell phone went missing. Yeah. And I went to my mom's house and she left.

And let me just, I got to vacuum my car. You know, she's been a while. Let me take out this plastic tarp. Yeah. So clearly he's been carrying around his oldest son's phone while leaving his own home. These two stores though are not the two stores that he told police he went to that day for his mom. Specifically, police learned that at 5.30 p.m. on January 1st, Brian went to a liquor store dumpster and surveillance tape catches him throwing away trash bags in that random dumpster. Then a little later on January 1st, police find that the oldest child's cell phone was pinging at another dumpster at

Brian's mother's house. The phone then pinging at a Lowe's hardware store. And if there's something I know, it's that if a person is going to a hardware store hours after the person they're last seen with is missing, it's probably not or a light bulb. You are a hundred percent correct whether it's minards Lose home depot none of which sponsor us by the way How great would that be if minards sponsored us they should do it Brian is also captured on video tape at this low store And if there's one thing that a 2023 crime has its

Video for Garrett Anytime there is video, it seems like an open and shut case and also it makes Garrett very happy. So the police learned that he bought the following items. This is as reported by CNN. Five, five gallon buckets, a hacksaw, 48 terry cloth towels, a full coverage suit, 200 disposable rags, trash bags, and cleaning products. Oh, this is insane. I, why open and shut? Why do you go by that the day your wife goes missing? There's two reasons you buy that.

One, there's a zombie apocalypse. Two, you have killed somebody. Right. The phone then travels to a CVS where Walsh was also seen on surveillance video purchasing 13 different types of hydrogen peroxide. Oh my gosh. Police determined that on January 2nd, 2023, on a cell phone pings at the family home and tell about 3.14am. This is contrary to Brian's initial story. He says she's gone by this time. Prosecutors say it had been stationary in the area of her home and could have since New Year's Eve. The babysitter comes over on January 2nd.

That was true. And watches two of the children while Brian takes the third out for ice cream. There was no school that day obviously, it's in between holidays. Brian and investigators all agree that this is what actually happens and he's seen on video tape at the juice bar with his child. On January 2nd, Brian also buys three rugs at a local home goods store. Then later in the day on January 2nd, Brian goes to a home depot in Rockland, Massachusetts. He pays $450 in cash for a number of items including a hatchet, goggles, tarps, another

bucket, mops, and 12 pounds of baking soda. Look, we're in 2003. It is no longer 1970, where you can go buy something in cash, and hopefully people don't figure it out. I just feel like I get you're using cash, though, but with cameras and everything everywhere, you're going to get caught. And these phone paint, even if you take your child's phone.

Yeah, there's phones everywhere. Like, what are you thinking, dude? He also wears gloves and a face mask in the store while buying these items. So upon checking on his flights, she does have a flight booked from Boston to DC on January 3, 2023. But police learned that she never gets on that flight, which

this does agree with her original story of going home on that day. Police learned that on January 3rd at 4.27 pm, Brian goes to an apartment complex in Abington. This is according to the peeing of the cell phone, and the complex has surveillance cameras. Surveillance tape catches Brian carrying a heavy garbage bag from his car, it's a Volvo, which he then hefs into a dumpster. The garbage bag appears to be heavy based on Brian's movements on the tape. It appears that he's maybe struggling

a little bit. It's crazy. They're getting everything. Yeah. Abington is a town about four miles west of where the washes live. At 4.48 p.m. on January 3rd, Brian goes to another apartment complex in Abington at 5, 10 PM. Brian goes to yet another apartment complex. This one in another town. He's throwing more things out in dumpsters along the way, which I need nothing to say. Cameras are getting everything. Right. There's going to be so much evidence for the trial. It's safe to say if there's a child or no, it's going on yet, but from January 1st to January 3rd, Brian is basically just stopping at

different hardware stores. There's a babysitter watching the kids. He's just buying very suspicious stuff. He's taking his kid's cell phone. He's going all these different apartment complexes. It's just crazy. He thinks he's going to get away with this. And the only time he has an alibi with like someone else that's been confirmed is when he took his oldest child out for ice cream. Okay. So police obviously immediately go to try to find these items that they can see Brian throwing away in dumpsters. However, at the time he was going around to all these dumpsters on January 3rd, on a hadn't even been reported missing yet. These

items that Brian was throwing out in various dumpsters were incinerated by the garbage folks before police could even be aware of them. Once they become suspicious of Brian, which is quickly given the evidence, law enforcement impounds Brian's car. Consistent with their initial observations, they find evidence that his car has been deep cleaned recently.

Wait, so they incinerated those bags So they'll never get them. They'll never get them. Oh my gosh. I wish something was said earlier. Well, this is not the first time I've seen a husband dispose of Josh Powell in the Susan Powell case also Went around to different dumpsters. It's assuming that he did this because if they pick it up before anyone notices and it's too late and it's too late. Speaking of Josh Powell, if you want an update on that case, rise and crime has been covering because there have been recent updates on that case. So if you follow that case, go check out rise and crimes updates. On January 5, 2023 at 8 a.m., Brian Walsh goes to the kids' daycare. Brian then goes to Swamp Scott, which is where

his mother lives, and goes to yet another dumpster. This is according to cell phone records, which established that Brian was, quote, circling his mother's apartment complex before he stops at the corner where the dumpster is located. As reported on CNN and many other news outlets, police will be successful in recovering the following items that Brian dumped in this specific dumpster. So these ones weren't gone yet. 10 trash bags that originated from this dumpster contained blood stains, cleaning materials,

a hacksaw, a hatchet, a purse, and boots worn by Anna Walsh and her COVID-19 vaccination card. She's always good. The trash in this dumpster had already been transferred to a transfer station in P body, but they are still able to intercept and collect it like I said. On January 5, 2023, the police publicly announced that Anna is missing. She was reported missing on January 4th a day before if you

remember. The police announcement states that Anna was last seen on January 1st shortly after midnight. It's kind of weird they would say that at this point just because I would assume they think what Brian was throwing out was her body. Uh huh. So I find it a little odd that they would say, oh, she's missing. Yes, but also because there's no body been found, they can't say that she's been murdered yet. It's just also because there's nobody been found, they can't say that she's been murdered yet. It's just hard because everyone's going to be looking for her, which is great, but after

everything you've told me and the police, the police know this, they probably just assume it's hard, it's hard. I'm assuming they're hoping people who know Anna come forward and tell more information or something. So the organized search for Anna begins on January 6, 2023. Police search the woods near their home in Cahasset using a canine unit and police search and rescue unit. The search will also expand into other towns.

Investigators also search on a town home in DC. They find something peculiar here. They observed the townhome to be ready for the kids to move there with clothes and other items available. This is according to a state troopers affidavit. The police wonder if Anna had been planning to leave Brian and take the kids with her. At this point police announced that there was absolutely no reason or indication that Anna would voluntarily vanish and just stop communicating with everyone. According to the affidavit of another trooper, Anna quote, had made future plans for both herself in a professional and personal context as

well as for herself with her children. Wonder what's going on? There's obviously something that we don't know. Right. Because you don't just do this out of nowhere. There's another significant development in the case of following day. This is January 7th. Detective Harrison Schmidt from the Cahasset Police Department receives an email from a Gmail account identifying itself as being from Richard Walker 9984.

It's a ransom note. The email demands $127,000 and claims that, quote, we have her here with us. We have the so named on a wall with us here. We had a deal worth $127,000. She messed up. We have her here with us, and if she doesn't pay the money, then she'll never be back, and we know

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a hoax and not a true ransom note given that there's no deadline for paying and no details for making payment. Meanwhile, police are dedicating extensive resources to investigating Brian and his movements and following up on the timeline he provided them. According to CNN, at least six investigators are busy watching surveillance tape at the store's Brian claims he went to while helping his mother on January 1st. And on January 7th, the police announced that the search is over. Police interview another man who they've learned is closely associated with the Walsh family or at least with Anna Walsh. They have discovered that Anna has been having an affair with a man in Washington, DC, for the past several

months, and they interview that man. The police have learned that things weren't quite as rosy in the wall marriage as may have appeared from the outside or on Instagram. So they announced the searches over probably because of the reason you stated they felt like they were wasting resources. And now they have found out she's having an affair. They talked to the guy and I assume Brian obviously knows about it. Right. So police at this point are like, who are Anna and Brian Walsh?

Really? Like we need to figure out what this marriage is. What is a motive here for even killing his wife besides the affair? The police have been busy investigating them and their past and their relationship. One thing they learn is that there's a reason that Anna and Brian are The police have been busy investigating them and their past and their relationship. One thing they learn is that there's a reason that Ana and Brian are celebrating New Year's Eve at home, aside from the fact they have three small children. The reason is that Brian Walsh has to be home. He has to be home because he's serving time on home arrest due to some federal fraud charges.

The police learn a lot about Brian once his wife disappears. According to a friend of Brian's father that says he knows Brian has known him since he was a child, he claims Brian became fixated on a materialistic and extravagant lifestyle. And as Brian got older, he sort of lost touch with how people make it in the real world and assumed a mantle of entitlement. There were signs from the beginning that he was a con artist. He dropped out of Carnegie Mellon University and checked into a mental health facility at the Austin Riggs Center where he spent a significant amount of time in his early years. Also, there's a reason that Brian's family isn't at the wedding.

Brian becomes estranged from his father in 2009 after being accused of stealing $1 million from his own father. This theft relates to an elaborate real estate fraud scheme concerning a property in Massachusetts. Brian, after this scheme leaves with his father's money upon closing of this property. And his father was permanently affected by this and then doesn't hear from his son, Brian, for years afterward. Then in 2016, Brian sold two fake Andy Warhol paintings on eBay to a gallery owner, a man named Ron Rivland, who believed they were authentic paintings. He says at first that Brian was charismatic, articulate, transparent, and professional.

This gallery owner says he'd been buying art for years, and that this was the one and only time he was ever defrauded. The total for these paintings was $225,000. While all of that's going on, Brian's father signs his will in May of 2016. Again, he's very wealthy. He owns a beach-front home. He keeps his will in the house. Two years later, Brian is arrested at 6 a.m. in connection with the charges of the art fraud. The police raid Brian and Anna's home in Massachusetts to make the arrest and the executed search warrant looking for evidence of the scam.

I'm just saying it's starting to make more sense why Anna didn't put his name on any of the homes. I'm curious, I don't know if I should even say it, but surprisingly, I got married in the first place. I'm guessing that Brian lied about a bunch of things, lied about his family, lied about everything. And she probably was like, okay, and she's a little bit.

And his family, there was already issues with his family because these issues happened way early on. Now shortly after his arrest, Brian transfers $95,000 to Anna. And of this, $4,000 is cash and 91 is made out in a check. Just a week or two later on May 24, 2018, Brian's mother gives him $125,000 for his expenses. He doesn't disclose these funds or the transfers he's made to Anna

to the federal court where he's appearing on the fraud charges. So he's messing with money. I'm also confused. There must be so much just family drama behind it because the mom then wires him money. We'll all source this said she had a very close relationship with him and kind of relied on him a little bit emotionally. So yeah, there's a lot going on. Yeah. Then just a few short months later, Brian Walsh's father, Dr. Thomas Walsh, dies on September 21st at the age of 71.

Dr. Walsh's attorney informs Brian that his father has passed away. However, Brian doesn't inform the rest of the family of his father's death. Instead, he leaps into action in an unlawful attempt to grab his father's assets. Brian asks his father's friend for a key to his father's beach-shide home, which is full of valuable assets such as paintings, rugs, jewelry, antiques. Brian claims he needs the key to get documents that will help get his father's body back to the US because his father actually died while on a trip in India. So the friend leaves the key under the door mat and while inside the home the friend notices the will and takes photos of it. Now this is going to be a good thing because he takes photos of the will before Brian gets so that's so smart.

So easy to change those. Yes. According to Daily Mail, with his dad deceased, Brian rated his father's home, stealing thousands of dollars worth of artwork and luxury items, as well as a car. He then tries to sell his father's house for 140,000 more than it was worth after he was wrongly named Executor of the Will. How did he think he would just come up with a sell it? I don't know. Brian goes online and tries to sell the valuables that he stole in. And according to court documents, Brian also withdraws over $100,000 from his deceased

father's bank account. Oh my gosh, it's just getting worse and worse for Brian. He's obviously not legally entitled to take any of these items. And according to Fox News, Brian drains his deceased father's bank accounts and sells off his valuables. Brian also finds and destroys his father's will. This will had disinherited him. So he had been disinherited in the will, and he

destroys it. Brian will lie and then tell the probate court that his father died without a will. Once the true will comes to light, the friend comes forward and says, hey, I took a picture, there was a will here it is. Brian then contests his father's will and a legal fight erupts over the terms of the will and the division of the estate. Brian claims that his father's signature on the will was forged. But all other family members come forward saying, no, no, no, these guys were estranged. There had been years of alleged swindling and manipulation. There is no way that his father didn't have a will and that he left everything to his son. Also according to the New York Post, the father's friend of more than 35

years stated in a 2019 affidavit that he had known Brian since the age of 13. And he said Brian's father told him that the son had been a long-term patient at the Austin Riggs Psychiatric Center and had been diagnosed as a sociopath while there. I wonder if Anna knew about any of this. Right? I would have to assume no. In November 2018, Brian pleads a not guilty to multiple federal fraud charges, and he is later accused of misleading the court by failing to disclose certain assets he has. Remember how he transferred money to his wife? So Anna in turn is accused of benefiting from Brian's fraud and from his failures to

disclose assets. Valentine's Day 2019, where Brian buys Anna that 2015 Maserati was only three months after he pled guilty to federal fraud charges. Like everything comes around and he pleads guilty. Yeah, I was going to say, where did, where did he get the money for this? Now it's all making sense. So everyone's pretty lenient on him, kind of believing that he was a family man.

So as part of the agreement, he was allowed to request to leave home so long as he provided details about where, when and why, and he was not forced to wear an ankle monitor, but he still technically was on house arrest. And he's allowed to take the kids to and from school. Okay. As for Anna, the police have learned a bit more

about her background as well. Around 2005, Anna met a man named Mark Nip apparently at a hotel where they both worked and they got married. She reportedly then was able to get her green card and they don't have any children together. She meets Brian in 2008 and they date for years. They get married in 2015 after Anna divorces Mark in 2014. So she was still married while dating Brian.

It doesn't say none of the sources really said either. I'm sure just because she is the victim and it doesn't. So Anna spends Thanksgiving of 2022 with the man she's been having in a fair with in DC for the past few months, they spend Thanksgiving together in Dublin, Ireland. According to prosecutors, Brian begins suspecting that his wife is having an affair. At this point, he's a full-time stay-at-home dad. He's doing cooking, cleaning, watching kids. And he starts trolling this male friend of his wife's Instagram account.

Trolling, okay. According to Brian's defense attorney, he doesn't suspect it and male friend of his wife's Instagram account. trolling okay. According to Brian's defense attorney, he doesn't suspect it and knows nothing of his wife's affair until he reads about it later in the prosecution papers. So once his wife dies, he's like, no, no, I had no idea. Now there's no way. On December 26, 2022, Brian's mother hires a private investigator to follow on around though in DC. So I'm assuming he Definitely knew about the affair on December 27th, 2022 Brian Googles What's the best state to divorce for a guy?

This search is done on the Walsh's oldest child's iPad the six-year-old so he's just using all of it He's clearly trying to hide it right which I mean, I feel like you don't have to hide that. I know. Out of all things, like what's the best state to divorce? Yeah. It's not like he looked up what's the best state to kill someone. On December 28, 2022, the next day, Anna has dinner in DC with a friend and breaks down in tears.

She tells the friend she's very upset about her husband that she's worried he's going to be sent to prison because of all of these fraud charges and that she's thinking about leaving him and moving with her three children to DC. The friend reports that Anna is uncharacteristically emotional and extremely upset. According to Boston.com, a friend of Anna's later tells the media that the marriage was strained and that at this point, Anna had given Brian some sort of ultimatum about the resolution of his criminal case and that she wanted the kids to move to be with her in DC. I mean, granted.

She's very upset that her husband had lied and had committed fraud and now might go to prison. I mean, that is stressful. Anna is reportedly photographed not wearing her wedding ring near the end of 2022. And I don't know if she'd like typically wore her wedding ring all the time or if this was rare for her. This takes us to Friday, December 30th, when Anna flies from D.C. to Massachusetts for the New Year's holiday. And on that Saturday, December 31st, Anna and Brian have that small New Year's Eve gathering at their home. Brian is still on home arrest. The three children are at home and Anna unsuccessfully

tries calling family members in Serbia after midnight that night. Prosecutors believe that Brian then beats Anna to death in their home in the wee hours. Oh my god. And that he kills her sometime around 4 a.m. on January 1st. Okay. Police obtained a search warrant for the Walsh House on January 8th and they find blood and a bloody broken knife down in the family basement. As part of the search for the wall-shome authorities do take and search the electronics including the iPad. But this is also about to get way worse because there is more searches done on the oldest child's iPad between 4.50 a.m. and 6.30 a.m. on January 1st. Again, this is shortly before the time that Brian claims Anna is going to suddenly leave home on the business trip, but also this is one police think he killed her. At 4.55 a.m., how long before a body starts to smell

is searched on the iPad? And others others how to dispose of a human body how long does it take for someone to be declared dead on January 2nd there are more Google searches on the child's iPad between 9.30 a.m. and 2.30 p.m. Hacksaw Best tool to dismember can you be charged for murder without a body can you identify a body with broken teeth? Oh my gosh, this is over. This is 100% over. There are also Google searches in the iPad's history about how to remove a SIM card from a cell phone,

how to mix ammonia, and searches relating to various apartment complexes located and brought. He should have looked up, can police do police know what I'm looking up on my iPad? Because like, what is he doing? Well, are you ready for the worst one? Yep. At some point someone uses the child's iPad to Google how to dispose of a 115 pound women's body. That's so crazy.

Could you lay it out any more obvious? Also, I've never looked these things up, so I don't know what pops up but what pops up. Right. Is there actual answers? I'm guessing a bunch of Reddit posts? Maybe. No idea. Don't look at that up by the way.

Yeah. On January 3rd, the day that Honours is supposed to be on a flight to DC but isn't. A person, police or certain as Brian Brian is back on the iPad doing more Google searches. What happens to hair on a dead body? What is the rate of decomposition of a body found in a plastic bag compared to on a surface in the woods? Can baking soda mask or make a body smell good? Oh my gosh, this is nuts. Oh he keeps going. There are also searches for how to remove blood from concrete, how to detect blood with fluorescent, so like how would police find it, and he does a search for a company that cleans up crime scenes.

Like this person's going to come over and clean it up. Hey, let me clean your house for you. Yeah. On January 4th, more searches. 10 ways to dispose of a dead body if you really need to, dismemberment and the best ways to dispose of a body. Can you be charged with murder without a body? And then again, can you identify a body with broken teeth?

This just goes to show. He has no idea what he's doing. Of course. Yeah. Also goes to show he's guilty. Yeah. On January 8th, police confront Brian with all of the Google searches they found on the iPad.

And I'm sure he never thought police would search the children's iPad, which is why he used it. So can you imagine that moment when police come to him and go, what are these? Yeah. Brian explains that it was his son's iPad that had made those searches. And his attorney ended the interview when officers asked

how a six-year-old could make the searches without any spelling mistakes. Yeah. Apparently Brian was implying that his six-year-old had been the one googling these things. Which if a six-year-old is googling, can you identify a body with broken teeth? We got some other problems.

Yes. On January 8, authorities believe they have enough evidence for an arrest. Brian is arrested and charged with the crime of misleading a police investigation. He's not yet charged with murder, as the investigation is still so early and there's no body. He's locked up in custody where he remains to this day. Which is ridiculous because I get they don't have a

body but you don't you do not need to have a body in this case. There is too much circumstand shot not even circumstand shot like hard evidence that he did this. So after this there's just a bunch of back and forth in court and prison. And I mean, those are just really small minuscule details because trial hasn't actually technically started. And there's still building a case. But we will be covering all of the court updates over on Rise and Crime for the story now

that you've listened to it onward with my husband. So if you're interested in following, you can follow it there. When's the next court date or parents, you know, the next pre trial conference isn't scheduled until August 23rd, 2023. I can't believe how long it takes. I know. There are three very young children who now don't have their parents. A mom.

Their mother is missing, presumed dead, and their father is in prison accused of her murder. The children have been placed with the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families. It's unclear where they are now, but according to Sienna, and a flood of families have offered to take the children and keep the children together. It's so sad that I can't believe he killed his wife,

a mother of three children. I know. Horrible. It's awful. Brian obviously had a long history of being a con man, but did he also have a history of violence? Those are two very different things. Yeah. According to one witness, the answer is yes. This man says he went on a trip to China with Brian and that Brian was trying to illegally smuggle antiquities out of the country. When Brian was confronted, he picked up a

stanchion and literally attempted to kill four or five guards that had come to talk to him about his crime. So, I mean, I'm sure that this will more of this will be brought up once trial actually starts, but it will be interesting to see if any character witnesses come forward claiming that Brian was a violent man. A charge of first-degree murder in Massachusetts carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. The prosecution's theory of the case is that Brian beat his wife to death after discovering her affair, then chopped her up in the family basement. He also was going to inherit 2.7 million in life insurance for her death. As far as we know, Anna's body has not yet been found. However, investigators found what she was wearing when she was last seen alive, her watch,

her boots. Remember, those were thrown away near the dumpster by his mother's house. Why would a woman throw away designer clothing? Because it was an air-mes watch and prodibutes and a kitchen and a glass. Dying together. There's no way she threw those away. Why would a woman throw away her purse? Why would they throw?

Why would she throw away her vaccine card? Yeah. Why would a woman leave her children and never contact them again? Why would she leave her cell phone behind? Why would a how would a person survive without money? We will keep you updated on future developments in this ongoing murder case on murder with my husband, but over on rising crime. And that is what is happening so far

in the death of Anna and the murder trial of Brian Walsh. Ah, I feel like it's gonna be a pretty just open and shut case with all the evidence they have. Cameras, which sucks is that the family will probably never see a body, cause I'm assuming that the body has been, you know, this member thrown into a bunch of different dumpsters and I don't know how you recover that. I don't need there. Um, I'm interested to see if this becomes like another Scott Peterson or

like, is it going to be open and shut or is trial going to come and put me on the jury, call me and coach. I'm going up yeah alright you guys that was our case for this week and we will see you next time don't forget to submit your dear Daisy stories I love it I hate it goodbye you