Murder With My Husband - 19. Angie Housman - The Brave and Resilient Student

Episode Date: July 20, 2020

Payton tells Garrett the story of Angie Housman on this episode of Murder With My Husband. Angie was an outgoing, 9-year-old girl who was tragically taken at her bus stop. After 25 long years, Angie's... case was finally solved using advanced DNA testing. LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband Case Sources: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dna-leads-police-to-suspect-25-years-after-murder-of-9-year-old-angie-housman/article_942dcb89-196a-50ea-85d5-b308f177ab1a.html Reddit https://fox2now.com/news/it-was-like-looking-at-a-real-life-monster-no-trial-date-yet-for-earl-cox/ Follow our social media: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, welcome back to our podcast. This is murder with my husband. I'm Peyton, moreland and I'm Garrett, moreland and he's the husband husband. Why were you laughing? What do you mean? No, I'm good. It's not my fault. My voice sounds like this. It's been such a crazy week for us you guys. I was so happy when today came because I just feel like I was finally able to relax and do something I love, which is true crime in
Starting point is 00:00:52 this podcast. I like this was heaven sent this week for me. No, it has been busy. We've both been working a lot this week. So it's been pretty crazy. Well, before we start, I just wanted to say a fun fact about Peyton and I. But so funny. You go. Oh, man, this is going to be a rough one. So I just wanted to say a fun fact about Peyton and I. We're waiting.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Peyton and I actually really, really like food. And I know a lot of people like food, but Peyton and I really like food. We just really enjoy food. We bond over food. We've bonded over food since our second date. Yeah, we are passionate about food. Food is one of the best parts of our day every single day. Yeah, we just eat, I don't know, we just like food.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I don't know how to just explain it. So for the future, hello, fresh. If you want to sponsor us, a cheesecake factory or a gear really wants a sponsorship from cheeses. All I'm saying is if any of our listeners have any inside scoop on the cheeses executives, I can speak properly. Then they should let me know because I could eat a box of cheeses easily every single day. Yeah, and I just like fries and McDonald's. So if anyone knows the McDonald's CEO, then yeah, hit me up because I really just want free fries
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Starting point is 00:03:05 Garrett built a little website for us. You know, he's so good with his hands. I don't know. That's how. Mm-hmm. Okay, keep going. Anyway, so we have a website and a new email. So it's murder with my husband at Gmail.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yes, correct. So go ahead and email us. Anything you want, even if it's just a little gift my husband at Gmail. Yes, correct. So go ahead and email us anything you want, even if it's just a little gift of someone dancing, I'll be pumped. Yeah, we haven't received any emails yet. I mean, I'm not offended or anything, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah. We've been checking it every five minutes, but no worries. But we're super excited to keep growing. And I hope you guys love these stories. Yeah. So Maria Harris actually sent this story to us via Facebook. So thank you, Maria. I had actually never heard of this. I don't think sometimes all of those stories. I've
Starting point is 00:03:52 heard kind of blend. So awesome. So yeah, my sources were, um, www.stl today.com. And this is just like a local news, um, site station, whatever for this county or city that this case is from. And they were so good at like doing updates. So I just read every single article they released on the case. So a lot of my information came from their articles, but there was a lot of articles. So just www.stltoday.com. Reddit had some pretty good threads about this and I'll tell you why later on and then Fox to now dot com had a more updated news story on this and I used them as well.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Okay. Okay, so here we go. So, as we know, or I know, you might not know, but I think you know because I've talked about it. DNA testing has come a long way in recent years. We've seen many cold cases close because of the advancements created, and even notorious killers like the Golden State Killer was finally captured due to new DNA testing. I think we are in a historic era for DNA and crime solving. Let's travel back to when detectives first started using DNA fingerprints and evidence to catch a killer. Rapists left their DNA because we didn't even know DNA
Starting point is 00:05:13 could be collected and traced at this point. Fingerprints were only a big deal if you had been fingerprinted at your local station and detectives had the time and energy to go through with a magnifying glass and identify your prints. When a database was created and then eventually a national database created for prints, it was over for the sloppy killers. Those who didn't even think about being caught in that way, like, were instantly in trouble when all of this came out. And this is the same for DNA
Starting point is 00:05:43 testing. I'm so grateful that before all of these advancements, CSI collected the evidence anyways, hoping that one day it would be useful. I mean, think about it. Like, how weird is it that they collected evidence that they couldn't even test yet? Yeah. No, it's crazy. And now we have all the ancestry 24 and mean all that is like, exactly. We've finally reached those days that all of this evidence is now useful in February of 2019 lab technicians in St. Charles, Missouri were asked to run some tests on DNA that belong to a 25 year old cold case With the advancements that we've seen recently in DNA testing detectives were hoping to finally gain some insight into a case that had haunted them since the beginning. After using innovative technology to run the bit of DNA they had collected and saved from the case in 1993, 25 years ago, it came back and they had a match. 61-year-old
Starting point is 00:06:38 Air Force VET, convicted pedophile and online child pornography fanatic, Earl Cox would be arrested and charged for the 1993 abduction, rape, and murder of nine-year-old Angie Hausman. All based off of the little bit of DNA that was found in her underwear collected and saved waiting for this exact moment. Wow, 25 years later. So in 1993, nine-year-old Angie Hausman was living in St. Anne, Missouri. In the fourth grade... You can't speak today.
Starting point is 00:07:10 In the fourth grade and the sweetest little girl. Angie's mom says that Angie was outgoing and happy. She was ambitious, strived to do good, she was proud of her school projects, which she gave 100% effort to. She wanted to be a nurse's aid when she grew up. She had and made many friends at school and was innocently loving, just completely genuine, like the sweetest little girl you could imagine. On November 18th, 1993, Angie got off her school bus at her bus stop that was located only half a block away from her house where she lived with her mother and her stepfather.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It was a short five minute walk from her bus stop to her home. Oh, no, usually two neighbors watched as the kids all got off the bus, making sure everyone crossed the street safely, you know. This day though, both of those neighbors that usually watch happen to be busy not able to be there on their front porch watching the kids get off the bus. Oh, so they usually do watch the kids every day. And that's pretty common.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Like if you go to a bus stop, there's usually two or three parents that are like waiting to make sure all of the kids get off safely and cross safely and all of that. Yeah. It was between this stop and her home during Angie's five minute walk that she was abducted and seen alive for the last time. Angie's mom and dad were waiting for her to arrive home, but it's time passed and Angie still wasn't walking through the front door. Her parents grew anxious. After 30 minutes they were genuinely worried. This behavior was very unlike Angie. If she was stopping to play with a friend,
Starting point is 00:08:42 she would have come home first and asked. They eventually reported Angie missing and the search for her began immediately. So, because I never really took the bus to school growing up, I always walked to school. But, did parents usually not pick their kids up from a bus stop? I'm just... So this was like a suburb area. A suburb area, I'm pretty sure. Okay. And so I think everyone just the bus stopped in a neighborhood. So it wasn't like a busy street or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:09:12 So everyone just got off and walked to their house that was in that neighborhood. Her house was only half a block away. Yeah, that's true. So I think maybe if a bus was stopping in like a country road, like we've seen parents come and pick up because there's still a 15 minute walk away from the house or whatever. But this was like in a neighborhood, all of these kids were five to 10 minute walk away from their home, which is basically what you were walking home to school. Yep. So speculation swarmed as reports of an attempted abduction just 10 days earlier
Starting point is 00:09:49 Where a man tried to grab an 11-year-old girl as she got off her school bus She managed to break free after he pulled her into some bushes He like tried to attack her and she broke free in 11 year old just 10 days before this happened to Angie So everyone was like you are freaking out. You know, I. This information led police to immediately believe that this was a kidnapping and that Angie's life was in danger. Angie was last seen wearing blue jeans, white tennis shoes, and a long pink coat. It was cold.
Starting point is 00:10:14 It was like, it was November. She was carrying a blue and white bag and was five feet tall, 65 pounds, had blue eyes, brown hair, and a scar on her chin. Her mom had to actually be given a sedative during this investigation. The first couple days after Angie was missing because she refused to go to sleep. She hadn't slept in like three days. Oh, I got it.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And so doctors were worried about her and she was like, I can't go to sleep. How could you as a mom, right? So as they gave her a sedative, so she like, she was unhealthy, you know? Yeah. Do you know if it was snowing, by chance, when she got kidnapped? I don't think it was snowing, but it was cold. OK. The FBI ended up joining the search for Angie pretty soon, like a couple days in.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And a police dog tracked her scent from where she got off the school bus up to about halfway home. And then it just vanishes. There was nine days of excruciating searching and investigating before Angie was found. Two deer hunters came upon Angie in a wooded area. If you live near here and are listening, the area was known as August A. Bush Memorial Conservation Area. So trigger warning, I'm going to go into some detail right now about how Angie was found. And it's kind of graphic and heartbreaking, and it's
Starting point is 00:11:31 a child. So skip forward about 30 seconds if you can go on with this story without these details. Angie was discovered in the woods and sources differ on whether she was tied or chained to the tree, but either way she was bound to a tree in the woods. And the outside in the middle, oh, that's horrible. She was nude and her hands were clasped behind her back with handcuffs. Her eyes and mouth had been covered in duct tape and because it was severely low temperatures outside,
Starting point is 00:11:59 there were actually icicles hanging off of her hair. Did you say her eyes were covered in duct tape? Yeah. Well, that's really interesting, OK? And there were icicles hanging off of her hair in her cheeks, because it was that cold. Her little body was pretty frail. It had been 10 days since she had last eaten.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Her backpack that she was carrying when abducted was nearby, with all of her clothes folded very neatly into a pile, including her winter coat. So whoever did this undressed her completely. Yeah. Um, and folded her clothes, which I thought would. Oh, I just, that's horrible. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Little Angie had obviously not made it. There was no pulse upon discovery. During autopsy, examiners and concluded that was beaten, sexually assaulted, and tortured for days. They determined the cause of death was exposure, meaning that the freezing temperatures and starvation eventually overcame her. And that's how she passed away. Angie had a strong will to live. She stayed alive for many, many days. But the worst part of this case is that the examiners concluded that Angie had finally let go only hours before being discovered.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Okay, so time out for a second. So where they found her, I'm not going to say could they have found her sooner, but was it just they had found her sooner? Yeah, but was it just really in the middle of nowhere? Was it? So it was just in the woods and I mean they were doing searches. I didn't couldn't find how far away from her actual abduction site this site was. I don't know if it was, I mean I don't think it was probably that close because I feel like they most likely would have found her. But it wasn't even the officers that found her, it was like two hunters. This is so this seems so much different too because I don't think, I mean, you might have heard a story like this, but were there tied up outside that seems so different than
Starting point is 00:13:55 most cases? Yeah, yeah, especially for a child, I feel like. I mean, obviously I've seen stuff like this on TV. Yeah. But yeah, I've never really heard of a case of a child being just left for dead. That's basically what happened. He tied her up and then left her to starve and die. Yeah, just really weird. It just seems so odd compared to other cases, I don't know. Like why not just kill her?
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Starting point is 00:17:26 husband and use promo code husband. So this means, you know, her being discovered very soon after she had died. This means that Angie fought through the violent acts that should have never happened to her. She was so strong. So while all this was happening to her, she never let go. She was being beaten. She had like cut wounds and stuff and she held on for a very long time and fought for her life. Although the devastation of this discovery was debilitating to the whole city, police did find a fingerprint on the duct tape but when ran, no match was made. Upon investigating, police discovered that Angie had told her school teacher that she was going to visit a relative very soon.
Starting point is 00:18:10 She also stated that she had a friendship with an older man who made her call him uncle, and that was who she was going to visit. When talking to her parents, her parents were like, no, we were never going to visit an uncle. Oh, wow. Soon. So there was like some weird thing going on where she was making friends with
Starting point is 00:18:28 They kind of say that Angie was very Talkative she wasn't scared of stranger. She did have adult friends. It's interesting when you start talking to teachers and you start doing some Research there's people find things out the parents don't. And it kind of just blows your mind a little bit. There was some hate on this teacher of like, she said she was friends with an older man that made her call him uncle and you didn't say anything. But I think from a teacher's point of view and force playing, you're like, oh, it's her uncle.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Well, and kids tell you stuff all the time. Even now kids still say things. You can't blame the teacher for that. So even though this information was pressing, nothing ever came of it. They never figured out who Uncle was, who this older guy was. Police had lost all leads and we're not giving up, but the investigation was definitely dry. It wasn't until December 9th, when ten-year-old Cassidy Center was abducted and found later by two pedestrians in an alleyway.
Starting point is 00:19:27 She had been wrapped in bed comfortors and curtains. Her autopsy was very similar to Angie's that they were like, maybe we have a new lead. Like there's another girl in close proximity who we think it might be the same killer. December 9th of that same year. Yes. Okay. This spread fear throughout the community. Everybody believing there was a child killer on the loose.
Starting point is 00:19:48 In February of 1994, police announced that a neighbor of Cassidy, named Thomas Brooks, was arrested and charged for Cassidy's death and that the two cases were in fact not related. But what are the chances that you have two child killers that were active in like that close proximity to each other. It was super devastating for Angie's parents and everyone that was like rooting for Angie because they finally thought, oh, a new case, which can bring new evidence, new leads that
Starting point is 00:20:14 might tie to Angie's and it didn't. Yeah. It's also kind of devastating because it was in the same community as I said. Yeah, it was in a different city, but it was close enough that they were like this guy could live. Yeah, it was also like, well, who's next? Yeah, exactly. I mean, everyone, it was fear.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Like everyone was running around in fear. Yeah, totally. The case, Angie's case sat pretty dry after this. Random abductions of children would happen in surrounding areas and states, which would you know, flare up a possible connection, but nothing ever stuck. Like none of the kids that were abducted, they ever could tie to Angie. Why do people do stuff like this? It's just, I know.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It's horrible. Police even looked into Angie's stepfather for a while, but eventually ruled him out as well. And that's pretty normal. Like if there's an abduction, they do look into the parents first. It's sad, but that's just what happens. During the 25 years that the case sat still, Angie's mother tragically passed away. Even to her deathbed, she worried and hurt over her daughter, never able to see justice served. That's so sad. In 2019, after a cold case unit combed through the evidence and decided to send in a piece of Angie's underwear for testing, they finally got a match they were waiting for. Earl Cox's DNA was a match to that on Angie's
Starting point is 00:21:30 underwear at the time of her murder. Earl grew up in the St. Louis area. He had joined the Air Force in 1975 but was dishonorably discharged in 1982 after molesting four young girls that he babysat while stationed in Germany. He was paroled after serving three years and returned home. He was actually questioned twice after by police on other molestation charges and was arrested for one of them, which broke his parole and he returned to federal custody.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It sucks that there really is so many people who've been charged with pit affiliate or whatever it may be. That's like that in the past and they're still out and they're in this world and they're walking around. It's bad. Yeah. So he was released again in 1992.
Starting point is 00:22:19 So this is his second time, his second offense for molestation of younger kids, of children. He was released again in 1992 and returned home to live with his mother, which was in Saint Anne, half a mile from where Angie disappeared. It was only 11 months later that Angie was found tied up in the tree in the woods. Okay. Earl moved to Colorado eventually, and attempted to meet in person a 14-year-old girl he was emailing as his sex slave, but was arrested when the girl ended up being an undercover federal agent.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Oh, that's awesome. No federal agent. So upon his arrest, police found 45,000 images of child porn on his computer and discovered that he was an admin of an online child pornography ring. He was scheduled to be released for these crimes. Those ones I just said in 2011, literally why, released again for the third time. I don't see, I don't understand that. But due to the Adam Walsh act,
Starting point is 00:23:26 he was incarcerated beyond his sentence which is known as civil commitment. The Adam Walsh act for those of you who don't know who Adam Walsh is. I'm sure you don't hear another boy who's abducted and it was a big case. And now he's created that they've created this act in his honor. This certifies people as sexually
Starting point is 00:23:44 dangerous after being reviewed by a panel. So if someone comes up for parole or someone comes up to be released and they get it, they get parole or it's like yes you're being released, they then go in front of a panel of like psychiatrists and all these people who interview them and then say no they're still a danger and we're making them incarcerated. So it can go override basically and the government signed it and everything. So it's fine. So he actually still stays incarcerated and he tries to appeal the government's decision to keep him locked up. But he was actually still in federal prison when his DNA was matched
Starting point is 00:24:26 to Angie's case. So does it work like they incarcerate him again or they say, oh, you can't come out. How long does he stay there for? I don't know. It's just every six months. Is it every year? I don't know. I'm guessing what they do is probably just keep reviewing him.
Starting point is 00:24:42 But the Adam Walsh Act was for what you just said is it's crazy that we have all of these pedophiles out there that just get out because they didn't kill, right? So that's kind of what this is to combat. It's like, no, they're still a danger. They're not changing. Child pornography, all that's still gonna. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:00 So he is arrested and charged with the abduction, rape, and murder of Angie Houseman. It's quite confusing how he was listed as a sex offender and lived around the area, like literally it right next door to her, yet was never questioned. He was literally on the list of suspects, and they never brought him in for questioning. That's strange. But the problem is most of the original detectives on the case are either retired or have since passed.
Starting point is 00:25:30 So we can't really figure out why they never questioned him. Like, people literally say he was in the hands of the officers and no one ever questioned him. That's weird, I wonder if they just got tired of the case and moved on or what? I don't know, it seemed like they were pretty vigilant. Like they opened it a lot. I think maybe you just start overlooking things. The police said early on that she knew her killer, which obviously wasn't true. Yeah. Well, random. Well, that will.
Starting point is 00:26:01 What the teacher said though. Yeah, but they haven't tied him to that guy. Oh, okay, so they're not sure. They're not sure because he still hasn't gone to trial and he's not talking. Okay, got it. So I guess he could be uncle. Uh-huh. But from their point of view, they were thinking, no, it's literally someone she knows. They were looking at people because they thought that she willingly got into a car. Okay. I don't know what evidence they had to draw that conclusion. Did any of the other kids not see her get stolen? No, literally no. And that's what's crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:33 It was middle of the day. She was walking home. There should have been. There's a lot of kids. Yeah, and there's usually two or three parents watching to make sure that the kids are going in their direction safely. I see what's also hard because if I can imagine myself
Starting point is 00:26:48 as a little kid and I see another little kid get taken, I think my mind would just be like, oh, that was their parents. Well, and here's the thing is like, maybe that's also why police think that she knew him because if a car pulls up and you know him and you get in, you're not gonna cause any distraction.
Starting point is 00:27:02 You know what I'm saying? Totally. So Angie's case is not the only case that Earl Cox is currently under investigation for. There's another four counts for different cases that he's facing as well. Oh my gosh. So it wasn't just Angie.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah, it's a lot. Earl's trial for Angie's case has been set for April 2021 and that's the story of Angie Houseman, the Brave and Res and resilient student. Oh, that's it. It just, that's all there was to it. So we'll know more. So I mean, I don't know if we even see April 2021
Starting point is 00:27:33 or if we're still in lockdown and they can't get to the trial, but right now that's when it's set for. So are they gonna charge him with the other crimes as well? Um, the April 2021 trial is just for Andy. It's just for Andy. I'm sure that they'll charge those other ones. And how old is he now? You know, 61 or something.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He's gross. He's one of them. The picture of him is scary looking. I can imagine. I'm like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:27:59 These ones are hard because little kids are just so, uh, I just little kid ones are hard. They are. But I did this one because it just bear like it was an unsolved mystery. Yeah. Most of the sources I was reading from were this unsolved case of Angie, this unsolved case of Angie. And then just barely in 2019 they solved it. They just got solved. Yeah. So that's why I did it because I want like this is just another example of DNA like just freaking knocking out these cold cases like crazy like we're just seeing right now so many cold cases close so many that these aren't even making the news anymore like this wasn't even like top news. I wish that just individuals could well I guess they can but work on these cold cases and you know because there's so many. Yeah, I know there's like things to work on rape cold cases,
Starting point is 00:28:50 like in the backlog of rape, because right now there's a whole bunch of people who they have the DNA, but they don't have the money to test it. So, like, rapists aren't found, you know, but there's, there's organizations to end that backlog. And I think if you look into your local departments, most places now actually have a cold case department where all they do is focus on cold cases and I'm sure you can donate. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah, this one's tough. I'm curious to see what happens in April though. But it is kind of heartbreaking that her mom passed before that she could see this happen. Yeah. I mean, it was 25 years after 25 years, they got their answer of what happened to their girl. Yeah. And she was unable to see it, which is kind of heartbreaking. But you know, at least there's justice for Angie, at least civil justice. You know, I don't know if you can't ever make up what happened, no one deserves that to happen to them, especially an innocent child. But at least now there's some civil justice that we can do here on Earth for Angie.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah, I agree. But no, yeah, that's the case of Angie Houseman. So don't forget to follow us on social media We're at murder with my husband on Facebook Twitter and Instagram We actually have been getting a lot more discussions going on there. I respond to every single DM So if you have a question or a suggestion go ahead and leave it there also email us with any like suggestions or news on any cases We're anxiously awaiting those. Who's gonna be the first one? Yeah, maybe we'll give you a shout out
Starting point is 00:30:31 or something for a female. That's funny. Oh, this is awesome though. It's someone I saw a comment to the day someone said, I think you're starting to like true crime. It made me laugh, it was funny. What are you? I think it depends maybe what type of case. I think I'm 50-50 right now.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I do feel like there's ones where you are very interested. Yeah, but ones like these, they just, they kind of make me sad. I'm gonna be honest, they do this. Well, I mean, I would worry about you if they, yeah, I would worry about you if they didn't make you sad. The reason we covered these heartbreaking cases, I wish we could always just do the ones
Starting point is 00:31:08 with happy endings or exciting and movie-like. The reason we cover these is because Angie deserves coverage. Like these victims deserve coverage, they deserve to have these stories told and to be heroes and to be remembered for their personality traits and how strong they were. And so that's why we cover.
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