Murder With My Husband - 19. Angie Housman - The Brave and Resilient Student
Episode Date: July 20, 2020Payton tells Garrett the story of Angie Housman on this episode of Murder With My Husband. Angie was an outgoing, 9-year-old girl who was tragically taken at her bus stop. After 25 long years, Angie's... case was finally solved using advanced DNA testing. LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband Case Sources: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dna-leads-police-to-suspect-25-years-after-murder-of-9-year-old-angie-housman/article_942dcb89-196a-50ea-85d5-b308f177ab1a.html Reddit https://fox2now.com/news/it-was-like-looking-at-a-real-life-monster-no-trial-date-yet-for-earl-cox/ Follow our social media: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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heard kind of blend. So awesome. So yeah, my sources were, um, www.stl today.com. And this
is just like a local news, um, site station, whatever for this county or city that this case is from.
And they were so good at like doing updates.
So I just read every single article they released on the case.
So a lot of my information came from their articles,
but there was a lot of articles.
So just www.stltoday.com.
Reddit had some pretty good threads about this and I'll tell you why later on and then Fox to now dot com had a more updated news story on this and I used them as well.
Okay.
Okay, so here we go. So, as we know, or I know, you might not know, but I think you know because I've talked
about it. DNA testing has come a long way in recent years. We've seen many cold cases
close because of the advancements created, and even notorious killers like the Golden
State Killer was finally captured due to new DNA testing. I think we are in a historic
era for DNA and crime solving. Let's travel back to when detectives first started using DNA
fingerprints and evidence to catch a killer.
Rapists left their DNA because we didn't even know DNA
could be collected and traced at this point.
Fingerprints were only a big deal
if you had been fingerprinted at your local station
and detectives had the time and energy
to go through with a magnifying glass and identify your prints. When a database was created and then
eventually a national database created for prints, it was over for the sloppy
killers. Those who didn't even think about being caught in that way, like, were
instantly in trouble when all of this came out. And this is the same for DNA
testing. I'm so grateful that before all
of these advancements, CSI collected the evidence anyways, hoping that one day it would be useful. I
mean, think about it. Like, how weird is it that they collected evidence that they couldn't even test
yet? Yeah. No, it's crazy. And now we have all the ancestry 24 and mean all that is like, exactly.
We've finally reached those days that all of this evidence is now useful in
February of 2019 lab technicians in St. Charles, Missouri were asked to run some tests on DNA that belong to a 25 year old cold case
With the advancements that we've seen recently in DNA testing detectives were hoping to finally gain some insight into a case that had haunted them since the beginning. After using innovative technology to run the bit of DNA they had collected
and saved from the case in 1993, 25 years ago, it came back and they had a match. 61-year-old
Air Force VET, convicted pedophile and online child pornography fanatic, Earl Cox would be arrested and charged for
the 1993 abduction, rape, and murder of nine-year-old Angie Hausman.
All based off of the little bit of DNA that was found in her underwear collected and saved
waiting for this exact moment.
Wow, 25 years later.
So in 1993, nine-year-old Angie Hausman was living in St. Anne, Missouri.
In the fourth grade...
You can't speak today.
In the fourth grade and the sweetest little girl.
Angie's mom says that Angie was outgoing and happy.
She was ambitious, strived to do good, she was proud of her school projects, which she
gave 100% effort to.
She wanted to be a nurse's aid when she grew up.
She had and made many friends at school and was innocently loving, just completely genuine,
like the sweetest little girl you could imagine. On November 18th, 1993, Angie got off her school bus
at her bus stop that was located only half a block away from her house where she lived with her mother and her stepfather.
It was a short five minute walk from her bus stop to her home.
Oh, no, usually two neighbors watched as the kids all got off the bus, making sure everyone
crossed the street safely, you know.
This day though, both of those neighbors that usually watch happen to be busy not able
to be there on their front porch watching
the kids get off the bus.
Oh, so they usually do watch the kids every day.
And that's pretty common.
Like if you go to a bus stop, there's usually two or three parents that are like waiting
to make sure all of the kids get off safely and cross safely and all of that.
Yeah.
It was between this stop and her home during Angie's five minute walk that she was abducted
and seen alive for the last time.
Angie's mom and dad were waiting for her to arrive home, but it's time passed and Angie still
wasn't walking through the front door. Her parents grew anxious. After 30 minutes they were genuinely
worried. This behavior was very unlike Angie. If she was stopping to play with a friend,
she would have come home first and asked. They eventually reported Angie missing and the search for her began immediately.
So, because I never really took the bus to school growing up, I always walked to school.
But, did parents usually not pick their kids up from a bus stop?
I'm just...
So this was like a suburb area.
A suburb area, I'm pretty sure.
Okay. And so I think
everyone just the bus stopped in a neighborhood. So it wasn't like a busy street or anything like that.
So everyone just got off and walked to their house that was in that neighborhood. Her house was only
half a block away. Yeah, that's true. So I think maybe if a bus was stopping in like a country road,
like we've seen parents come
and pick up because there's still a 15 minute walk away from the house or whatever.
But this was like in a neighborhood, all of these kids were five to 10 minute walk away
from their home, which is basically what you were walking home to school.
Yep.
So speculation swarmed as reports of an attempted abduction just 10 days earlier
Where a man tried to grab an 11-year-old girl as she got off her school bus
She managed to break free after he pulled her into some bushes
He like tried to attack her and she broke free in 11 year old just 10 days before this happened to Angie So everyone was like you are freaking out. You know, I. This information led police to immediately believe
that this was a kidnapping and that Angie's life
was in danger.
Angie was last seen wearing blue jeans, white tennis shoes,
and a long pink coat.
It was cold.
It was like, it was November.
She was carrying a blue and white bag
and was five feet tall, 65 pounds, had blue eyes, brown hair,
and a scar on her chin.
Her mom had to actually be given a sedative during this investigation.
The first couple days after Angie was missing because she refused to go to sleep.
She hadn't slept in like three days.
Oh, I got it.
And so doctors were worried about her and she was like, I can't go to sleep.
How could you as a mom, right?
So as they gave her a sedative, so she like, she was unhealthy, you know?
Yeah.
Do you know if it was snowing, by chance, when she got kidnapped?
I don't think it was snowing, but it was cold.
OK.
The FBI ended up joining the search for Angie pretty soon, like a couple days in.
And a police dog tracked her scent from where she got off the school bus up to about halfway
home.
And then it just
vanishes. There was nine days of excruciating searching and investigating before
Angie was found. Two deer hunters came upon Angie in a wooded area. If you live
near here and are listening, the area was known as August A. Bush Memorial
Conservation Area. So trigger warning, I'm going to go into
some detail right now about how Angie was found. And it's kind of graphic and heartbreaking, and it's
a child. So skip forward about 30 seconds if you can go on with this story without these details.
Angie was discovered in the woods and sources differ on whether she was tied or chained to the tree,
but either way she was bound to a tree in the woods.
And the outside in the middle, oh, that's horrible.
She was nude and her hands were clasped
behind her back with handcuffs.
Her eyes and mouth had been covered in duct tape
and because it was severely low temperatures outside,
there were actually icicles hanging off of her hair.
Did you say her eyes were covered in duct tape?
Yeah.
Well, that's really interesting, OK?
And there were icicles hanging off of her hair
in her cheeks, because it was that cold.
Her little body was pretty frail.
It had been 10 days since she had last eaten.
Her backpack that she was carrying when abducted
was nearby, with all of her clothes folded very neatly
into a pile, including her winter coat.
So whoever did this undressed her completely.
Yeah.
Um, and folded her clothes, which I thought would.
Oh, I just, that's horrible.
I know.
Little Angie had obviously not made it.
There was no pulse upon discovery.
During autopsy, examiners and concluded that was beaten, sexually assaulted, and tortured for days.
They determined the cause of death was exposure, meaning that the freezing temperatures and starvation eventually overcame her.
And that's how she passed away.
Angie had a strong will to live. She stayed alive for many, many days.
But the worst part of this case is that the examiners concluded that
Angie had finally let go only hours before being discovered.
Okay, so time out for a second. So where they found her, I'm not going to say could they
have found her sooner, but was it just they had found her sooner? Yeah, but was it just
really in the middle of nowhere? Was it? So it was just in the woods
and I mean they were doing searches. I didn't couldn't find how far away from her actual abduction
site this site was. I don't know if it was, I mean I don't think it was probably that close because
I feel like they most likely would have found her. But it wasn't even the officers that found her,
it was like two hunters.
This is so this seems so much different too because I don't think, I mean, you might have heard a story like this, but were there tied up outside that seems so different than
most cases? Yeah, yeah, especially for a child, I feel like. I mean, obviously I've seen stuff like
this on TV. Yeah. But yeah, I've never really heard of a case of a child
being just left for dead.
That's basically what happened.
He tied her up and then left her to starve and die.
Yeah, just really weird.
It just seems so odd compared to other cases, I don't know.
Like why not just kill her?
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
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she had died. This means that Angie fought through the violent acts that should have never happened
to her. She was so strong. So while all this was happening to her, she never let go. She was being beaten. She had like cut wounds and stuff and she held on for a very long time
and fought for her life. Although the devastation of this discovery was
debilitating to the whole city, police did find a fingerprint on the duct tape
but when ran, no match was made. Upon investigating, police discovered that Angie
had told her school teacher that she was going
to visit a relative very soon.
She also stated that she had a friendship
with an older man who made her call him uncle,
and that was who she was going to visit.
When talking to her parents, her parents were like,
no, we were never going to visit an uncle.
Oh, wow.
Soon.
So there was like some weird thing going on where she was making friends with
They kind of say that Angie was very
Talkative she wasn't scared of stranger. She did have adult friends. It's interesting when you start talking to teachers and you start doing some
Research there's people find things out the parents don't. And it kind of just blows your mind a little bit.
There was some hate on this teacher of like,
she said she was friends with an older man
that made her call him uncle and you didn't say anything.
But I think from a teacher's point of view and force
playing, you're like, oh, it's her uncle.
Well, and kids tell you stuff all the time.
Even now kids still say things.
You can't blame the teacher for that.
So even though this information was pressing, nothing ever came of it.
They never figured out who Uncle was, who this older guy was.
Police had lost all leads and we're not giving up, but the investigation was definitely dry.
It wasn't until December 9th, when ten-year-old Cassidy Center was abducted and found later by two pedestrians
in an alleyway.
She had been wrapped in bed comfortors and curtains.
Her autopsy was very similar to Angie's that they were like, maybe we have a new lead.
Like there's another girl in close proximity who we think it might be the same killer.
December 9th of that same year.
Yes.
Okay.
This spread fear throughout the community.
Everybody believing there was a child killer on the loose.
In February of 1994, police announced that a neighbor of Cassidy,
named Thomas Brooks, was arrested and charged for Cassidy's death
and that the two cases were in fact not related.
But what are the chances that you have two child killers that were active
in like that close proximity
to each other.
It was super devastating for Angie's parents and everyone that was like rooting for Angie
because they finally thought, oh, a new case, which can bring new evidence, new leads that
might tie to Angie's and it didn't.
Yeah.
It's also kind of devastating because it was in the same community as I said.
Yeah, it was in a different city, but it was close enough that they were like this guy
could live.
Yeah, it was also like, well, who's next?
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, everyone, it was fear.
Like everyone was running around in fear.
Yeah, totally.
The case, Angie's case sat pretty dry after this.
Random abductions of children would happen in surrounding areas and states, which would
you know, flare up a possible connection,
but nothing ever stuck. Like none of the kids that were abducted, they ever could tie
to Angie.
Why do people do stuff like this? It's just, I know.
It's horrible.
Police even looked into Angie's stepfather for a while, but eventually ruled him out
as well. And that's pretty normal. Like if there's an abduction, they do look into the
parents first. It's sad, but that's just what happens.
During the 25 years that the case sat still, Angie's mother tragically passed away. Even to her deathbed, she worried and hurt over her daughter, never able to see justice served.
That's so sad.
In 2019, after a cold case unit combed through the evidence and decided to send in a piece of
Angie's underwear for testing, they finally got a match they were waiting for. Earl Cox's DNA was a match to that on Angie's
underwear at the time of her murder. Earl grew up in the St. Louis area. He had joined the Air Force
in 1975 but was dishonorably discharged in 1982 after molesting four young girls that he babysat while stationed in Germany.
He was paroled after serving three years
and returned home.
He was actually questioned twice after
by police on other molestation charges
and was arrested for one of them,
which broke his parole and he returned to federal custody.
It sucks that there really is so many people
who've been charged with pit affiliate or
whatever it may be.
That's like that in the past and they're still out and they're in this world and they're
walking around.
It's bad.
Yeah.
So he was released again in 1992.
So this is his second time, his second offense for molestation of younger kids, of children.
He was released again in 1992 and returned home to live with his mother, which was in
Saint Anne, half a mile from where Angie disappeared.
It was only 11 months later that Angie was found tied up in the tree in the woods.
Okay.
Earl moved to Colorado eventually, and attempted to meet in person a 14-year-old girl he was
emailing as his sex slave, but was arrested when the girl ended up being an undercover federal
agent.
Oh, that's awesome.
No federal agent.
So upon his arrest, police found 45,000 images of child porn on his computer and discovered
that he was an admin of an online child pornography ring.
He was scheduled to be released for these crimes.
Those ones I just said in 2011, literally why, released again for the third time.
I don't see, I don't understand that.
But due to the Adam Walsh act,
he was incarcerated beyond his sentence
which is known as civil commitment.
The Adam Walsh act for those of you
who don't know who Adam Walsh is. I'm sure
you don't hear another boy who's abducted
and it was a big case. And now he's
created that they've created this act in his honor.
This certifies people as sexually
dangerous after being reviewed by a
panel. So if someone comes up for parole or someone comes up to be released and
they get it, they get parole or it's like yes you're being released, they then go
in front of a panel of like psychiatrists and all these people who interview them
and then say no they're still a danger and we're making them incarcerated.
So it can go override basically and the government signed it and everything. So it's fine. So he
actually still stays incarcerated and he tries to appeal the government's decision to keep him locked
up. But he was actually still in federal prison when his DNA was matched
to Angie's case.
So does it work like they incarcerate him again or they say, oh, you can't come out.
How long does he stay there for?
I don't know.
It's just every six months.
Is it every year?
I don't know.
I'm guessing what they do is probably just keep reviewing him.
But the Adam Walsh Act was for what you just said
is it's crazy that we have all of these pedophiles out there
that just get out because they didn't kill, right?
So that's kind of what this is to combat.
It's like, no, they're still a danger.
They're not changing.
Child pornography, all that's still gonna.
Yeah.
So he is arrested and charged with the abduction,
rape, and murder of Angie Houseman.
It's quite confusing how he was listed as a sex offender and lived around the area, like
literally it right next door to her, yet was never questioned.
He was literally on the list of suspects, and they never brought him in for questioning.
That's strange.
But the problem is most of the original detectives
on the case are either retired or have since passed.
So we can't really figure out why they never questioned him.
Like, people literally say he was in the hands
of the officers and no one ever questioned him.
That's weird, I wonder if they just got tired
of the case and moved on or what?
I don't know, it seemed like they were pretty vigilant. Like they opened it a lot. I think maybe
you just start overlooking things. The police said early on that she knew her killer,
which obviously wasn't true. Yeah. Well, random. Well, that will.
What the teacher said though. Yeah, but they haven't tied him to that guy. Oh,
okay, so they're not sure. They're not sure because he still hasn't gone to trial and he's not
talking. Okay, got it. So I guess he could be uncle. Uh-huh. But from their point of view, they were
thinking, no, it's literally someone she knows. They were looking at people because they thought
that she willingly got into a car. Okay. I don't know what evidence they had to draw that conclusion.
Did any of the other kids not see her get stolen?
No, literally no.
And that's what's crazy.
It was middle of the day.
She was walking home.
There should have been.
There's a lot of kids.
Yeah, and there's usually two or three parents watching
to make sure that the kids are going
in their direction safely.
I see what's also hard because if I can imagine myself
as a little kid and I see another little kid get taken,
I think my mind would just be like,
oh, that was their parents.
Well, and here's the thing is like,
maybe that's also why police think
that she knew him because if a car pulls up
and you know him and you get in,
you're not gonna cause any distraction.
You know what I'm saying?
Totally.
So Angie's case is not the only case
that Earl Cox is currently under investigation for.
There's another four counts for different cases
that he's facing as well.
Oh my gosh.
So it wasn't just Angie.
Yeah, it's a lot.
Earl's trial for Angie's case has been set for April 2021
and that's the story of Angie Houseman,
the Brave and Res and resilient student.
Oh, that's it.
It just, that's all there was to it.
So we'll know more.
So I mean, I don't know if we even see April 2021
or if we're still in lockdown and they can't get
to the trial, but right now that's when it's set for.
So are they gonna charge him with the other crimes as well?
Um, the April 2021 trial is just for Andy.
It's just for Andy.
I'm sure that they'll charge those other ones.
And how old is he now?
You know, 61 or something.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's gross.
He's one of them.
The picture of him is scary looking.
I can imagine.
I'm like, ooh.
These ones are hard because little kids are just so, uh,
I just little kid ones are hard.
They are. But I did this one because it just bear like it was an unsolved mystery. Yeah.
Most of the sources I was reading from were this unsolved case of Angie, this unsolved case of Angie.
And then just barely in 2019 they solved it. They just got solved. Yeah. So that's why I did it because I want like this is just another example of DNA like just freaking knocking out these cold cases like crazy like we're just seeing
right now so many cold cases close so many that these aren't even making the news anymore like
this wasn't even like top news. I wish that just individuals could well I guess they can but work
on these cold cases and you know because there's so many. Yeah, I know there's like things to work on rape cold cases,
like in the backlog of rape, because right now there's a whole bunch of people who they have the DNA,
but they don't have the money to test it. So, like, rapists aren't found, you know, but there's,
there's organizations to end that backlog. And I think if you look into your local departments,
most places now actually have a cold case department
where all they do is focus on cold cases
and I'm sure you can donate.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, this one's tough.
I'm curious to see what happens in April though.
But it is kind of heartbreaking that her mom passed before that she could see this happen.
Yeah. I mean, it was 25 years after 25 years, they got their answer of what happened to their girl.
Yeah. And she was unable to see it, which is kind of heartbreaking. But you know, at least
there's justice for Angie, at least civil justice. You know, I don't know if you can't ever make up what
happened, no one deserves that to happen to them, especially an innocent child.
But at least now there's some civil justice that we can do here on Earth for Angie.
Yeah, I agree.
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We actually have been getting a lot more discussions going on there. I respond to every single DM
So if you have a question or a suggestion go ahead and leave it there also email us with any like suggestions or news on any cases
We're anxiously awaiting those.
Who's gonna be the first one?
Yeah, maybe we'll give you a shout out
or something for a female.
That's funny.
Oh, this is awesome though.
It's someone I saw a comment to the day someone said,
I think you're starting to like true crime.
It made me laugh, it was funny.
What are you?
I think it depends maybe what type of case. I think I'm 50-50 right now.
I do feel like there's ones where you are very interested.
Yeah, but ones like these, they just,
they kind of make me sad.
I'm gonna be honest, they do this.
Well, I mean, I would worry about you if they,
yeah, I would worry about you if they didn't make you sad.
The reason we covered these heartbreaking cases,
I wish we could always just do the ones
with happy endings or exciting and movie-like.
The reason we cover these is because
Angie deserves coverage.
Like these victims deserve coverage,
they deserve to have these stories told
and to be heroes and to be remembered
for their personality traits and how strong they were.
And so that's why we cover.
Totally, I know that makes sense.
It's true.
Yeah.
Okay, well guys, I love it.
And I hate it.
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