Murder With My Husband - 271. The Missing News Anchor

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

In this episode, Payton explores the baffling disappearance of Jodi Huisentruit, a news anchor who vanished without a trace just outside her apartment. Links: NEW MERCH LINK: https://mwmhshop.com ... Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/themwmh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothedarkpod/ Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbh-B5Or9CT8Hutw1wfYqQ Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327 Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7 Case Sources: Fox9 KMSP - https://www.fox9.com/news/jodi-huisentruit-winsted-search-no-remains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58m9bdDlc6Y Find Jodi - https://findjodi.com/the-team/ https://findjodi.com/jodis-early-beginnings-in-broadcasting/ News Nation - https://www.newsnationnow.com/missing/jodi-huisentruit-suspect-list-four-people-private-investigator/ https://www.newsnationnow.com/missing/jodi-huisentruit-search/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW4ia-90Ehg Star Tribune - https://www.startribune.com/iowa-officials-search-winsted-property-in-connection-with-disappearance-of-jodi-huisentruit/601181505 Independent - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/jodi-huisentruit-missing-new-search-b2650602.html KTTC - https://www.kttc.com/2024/12/10/investigators-revisit-previously-dismissed-lead-jodi-huisentruit-case/ https://www.kttc.com/2024/12/27/private-investigator-shares-passing-figure-once-linked-with-jodi-huisentruit-investigation/ Dakota News Now - https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/2024/12/08/nonprofit-struggles-fund-search-missing-mason-city-news-anchor/?outputType=amp Mason City, Iowa - https://www.masoncity.net/pview.aspx?id=17966&catid=481 Iowa Department of Public Safety - https://dps.iowa.gov/contact-dps Biggest US Cities - https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/mason-city-iowa Arizona’s Family 3 - https://www.azfamily.com/2024/06/28/answers-may-still-lie-arizona-case-iowa-news-anchor-who-went-missing-1995/ KCCI 8 Des Moines - https://www.kcci.com/article/jodi-huisentruit-missing-person-case-investigation-update-christopher-revak/63160204 WSAW TV - https://www.wsaw.com/2024/12/06/forgotten-wisconsin-cold-cases-christopher-revak-deadly-connections/ https://www.wsaw.com/video/2024/12/06/mason-city-pd-investigating-chris-revak/ Radio Iowa - https://www.radioiowa.com/2024/12/12/podcast-sparks-new-lead-in-case-of-long-missing-mason-city-woman/ Wisconsin Clearinghouse for Missing & Exploited Children & Adults - https://www.missingpersons.doj.wi.gov/sites/default/files/unsolved-cases/harm-deidre.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Refreshingly simple. A couple of things. If you're an Apple subscriber or you're a Patreon, Garrett, I did secretly record a short 15 minute episode. You can go check that out. I am going to do a full episode at some point. That was just kind of like a little test. See how it is. Did it by myself. Payton had no idea.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Clarify. Garrett told the story. I told the story by myself, literally by myself. Payton had no idea. Clarify, Garrett told the story. I told the story by myself, literally by myself. Payton had no idea. It was to kind of relieve just some stress off of her. You've just been busy with some things. So you can go check that out if you're a Patreon, Spotify, or Apple subscriber.
Starting point is 00:01:37 If you're not, no worries, no stress. I love you. But you don't get to listen to Garrett tell a story now, do you? But I do need to do a full episode at some point. So we'll see. We're getting into the works with that. Yeah, for my 10 seconds, I am burnt.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I am burnt like a red tomato, but that's OK because that burn will turn into a tan and that is all that matters. Hope everyone is having a great summer. Summer's coming up and we love you. All right, you guys. So before we get into today's episode, it's actually a little different and a little special. So let me explain. As you guys know, a while ago, I started a solo show that is now called Into the Dark. It is a true crime show that every once in a while ventures into
Starting point is 00:02:28 crime show that every once in a while ventures into ghost, UFO, spooky stories, all things dark and mystery. Again, it is majority true crime. I love Into the Dark and it truly is my little baby. And I'm going to beg you right now, please go follow Into the Dark. Please go follow Into the Dark. Please go turn on automatic downloads. Please subscribe, do whatever. Please, please, please help me grow Into the Dark and support the show. I know you guys are awesome. I know I can always turn to you. So thank you so much for doing that right now.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And that being said, this week we are going to drop one of my favorite Into the Dark episodes. Don't worry, it is still a true crime case and it has one that genuinely blew the Into the Dark listeners away. So we thought Murder with My Husband needed to hear it. If you do listen to Into the Dark, you might be a little sad or sorry. We will be back to regular scheduled programming next week. And again, if you are curious, you can check out the Patreon episode if you want to kick a Garrett because Garrett won't be in this episode.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Also there will be a Dear Daisy record of this month. So Dear Daisies, we'll be back. All right, you guys, we love you. Thank you for the support. This case is truly gonna blow your mind. So let's get into it. You're listening to an Ono Media podcast. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Into the Dark podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I'm your host, Peyton Morland. I'm so, so happy that you are here listening. Thank you for your continued support, you guys. It means more than you will ever know. I'm gonna jump straight into my 10 seconds right now. Okay, if you know me at all, you know that I really only watch crime shows on TV. I've never really been a big reality TV person
Starting point is 00:04:16 or series show, honestly. I just love true crime and crime on TV. CSI, Las Vegas is my favorite. I've watched it too many times to count. I love Law and Order SVU. I love Criminal Minds. I love CSI Miami. And I was thinking about Criminal Minds the other day, because I've kind of been on Criminal Minds TikTok and I've watched it multiple times through. But you need to let me know, there's There's this phenomenon in Criminal Minds where you have Derek Morgan who is just the idealistic, perfect guy, right? Like that's his character in the show is he is this hunk, he's a hottie, he's so just everything you'd want. But then there's just this huge group of Criminal Minds watchers who are team Reid. Okay, we love Spencer Reid and we,
Starting point is 00:05:09 he is our crush in the show. And it's so funny because in the show, they make his character the opposite of Morgan. And he's nerdy, he's skinny, he can't shoot a gun, you know, like all these things, but there's all these girls who love him And so I want you to tell me in the comments if you do listen to criminal minds Are you a Morgan or Reed stan? Let me know. I will tell you right now. I Am a bigger fan of Reed, but I obviously love Morgan, but I am a Reed girl. Okay, I am But yeah I just thought that was a funny discourse
Starting point is 00:05:46 that I've been seeing going around and I just wanted to know what you guys thought. All right, jumping into the episode, unsolved cases are always frustrating. It's difficult to get invested in someone's story and to want to learn what happened to them only to be left with more questions than answers once the investigation is all said and done.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Well, I am going to spoil today's case right now. It is an unsolved disappearance. But you're going to want to tune in because in the past few months, the police have actually made some huge breaks in this case. And my hope is that before too long, we can change the narrative. We can find a solution and get closure and finally see this case get solved. So let's go back to the 1990s when an ambitious young reporter was working her dream job.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Her name was Jodie Housentroot, and she was working for a television news station in Mason City, Iowa. It was called KIMT. And Mason City in Iowa was a decent sized Midwestern town in the 1990s. It had a population of just under 30,000 people, meaning Jodie's job was a great chance to reach a big audience and make a name for herself. She was still young and early in her career. She was just in her twenties. And Jodie knew that in the years and the decades to come, she had a lot of potential to go even further, but she'd have to push herself. So each time Jodi appeared on camera, she would ask the crew to make a recording of her performance. Now in the early nineties, that was much harder to do than it is today.
Starting point is 00:07:38 She had to talk to the people working in the recording booth who were already busy filming, editing and broadcasting everything live. And she'd ask them to do her the favor of making her a tape while they were also focused on making sure everything looked right. The good news was though that her coworkers in the booth were willing to help. And she collected dozens of tapes over the years, beginning with her very first appearances on her college's student-run channel all the way through her time with KIMT. And the reason she's doing this is honestly kind of like game film. She would take each tape home and then watch it, and she would make a note of
Starting point is 00:08:21 each time she misspoke or maybe didn't deliver a line perfectly, every moment when her smile slipped or when her volume was a little loud or quiet. She was studying her film to get better. She was a perfectionist. She kept track of everything so she could improve on areas where she could. And then the next day she would show up to work resolved to do better than she had the day before each broadcast in her eyes was a chance to knock things out of the park and
Starting point is 00:08:54 Honestly, all of that effort paid off by 1995 Jodie was 27 years old and appearing on air Regularly, she was fairly well known in Mason City and honestly had kind of become a local celebrity. Now since she was such a hard worker it's safe to say that it was out of character for Jodie to ever be late to work or to blow off a shift. But that is exactly what happened on June 27th 1995 and it's gonna be very obvious if she doesn't show up to work because she won't be on air. So that day in 1995, she was supposed to come in by 3.30 a.m. I know that's very early, but Jodie was a part of the morning news team. She had to be there by 3.30 to have enough
Starting point is 00:09:40 time to prep for the broadcast that would begin live at 6 a.m. So it was a problem for her to not be in on time and that day there was no sign of her when her shift began. Jodie's producer, a woman named Amy Coons, thought it was possible that Jodie might just be running late. It was too early for her to hit traffic but maybe something else had held her up. Except by 4 a.m., Jodie still hadn't made it into the station, and she was now a half an hour late to her shift. So that is when Amy, the producer, called Jodie to see what was going on. And after a few rings, Jodie answers her home telephone. As it turned out, she had just overslept and Amy, the producer, had woken her up.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So Jodie on the phone is like, no, no, no, I just overslept. I'm not in any kind of trouble or anything. Nothing bad has happened. And nothing about Jodie's tone of voice made Amy think she was lying. In fact, she sounded groggy, like the phone call had indeed woken her up. Amy explained that she was reaching out, you know, because it's already 4 a.m., Jodie was late and Jodie promised, I'm going to hit the road as soon as I can. I will be in the office right away.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And then they hung up. Now, Amy knew that Jodie only lived about a five minute drive from the TV station. So it shouldn't have taken her very long at all to make it in. Even if you assume that Jodie needed some time to get up, get dressed, brush her teeth and do her hair and makeup, she still should have gotten there pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:11:16 But after this phone call, a full hour passes and Jodie still doesn't show up. By 5 a.m. Amy the producer calls again to ask Jodie what is going on. I mean someone has to go on air that morning and this time nobody answers at Jodie's home. So the clock was ticking and Jodie was supposed to be live on air at 6. There was no sign of her and Amy knew that the station couldn't wait much longer. It's like they say, the show must go on.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So Amy made the spur of the moment decision to fill in for Jodie and do the broadcast herself. She sat at Jodie's usual desk, read all of her lines, and by the time that the morning news was finished, there was still no sign of Jodie. Jodie never came into work that day. By now it had been three hours since Amy had supposedly woken Jodie up on the phone that morning and so Amy is extremely worried at this point. It was one thing for Jodie to
Starting point is 00:12:22 sleep in but it was completely out of character for her to answer the phone, say she's coming in, and then not show up and miss an entire broadcast. She had never blown off her work like this before. She cared too much about her job. And with Jodie still not answering the phone, Amy decides it is time to call 911 to ask the police to head over to Jodi's home and just do a welfare check, see if she's okay. As soon as Amy requested the wellness check, the investigators rushed over to Jodi's apartment building.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Before they even had a chance to get inside, they saw something very concerning. Jodi's car was parked out front and there were marks on the pavement. It kind of looked like someone had dragged something heavy across the ground. And on top of that, a bunch of Jodie's personal possessions were scattered all around her parking spot. Okay, There were earrings, a blow dryer, a pair of red high-heeled shoes that were just strewn across the ground
Starting point is 00:13:30 by her car in the parking lot. And her car keys were also on the ground, but they had been bent, as though she was trying to get into the vehicle, but before she could, something had happened and she got caught in a struggle. The police also found a partial palm print on the handle of the car,
Starting point is 00:13:50 like someone had tried to open the door. Maybe it was Jodie, or maybe it was someone else who had tried to get inside that morning. They haven't ever publicly confirmed whether they identified who the palm print belonged to. And interestingly, there was also a hair at the scene, but the police haven't said whether they know whose hair it was either.
Starting point is 00:14:13 So they have evidence that they still haven't publicly identified. But here's what I do know. The officers noticed this, and obviously we have the context that she was rushing to work. So these personal items in the parking lot aren't actually that mysterious.
Starting point is 00:14:28 It's most likely that Jodi woke up, was in a rush, grabbed a bunch of her things that she was gonna need at the station to get ready for work. And something happened while she was trying to get into her car. So when the officers went into Jodi's apartment, everything there seemed neat and tidy, not like the parking spot.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Her apartment looked exactly how it was supposed to, with one exception. In her bathroom, the toilet seat was up, which if you live with a man or have a husband, that probably means that a man was the last person to use it. sales on top of cashback. Just start your shopping with Rakuten to save money at over 750 stores. Join for free at rakuten.ca or download the Rakuten app. That's R-A-K-U-T-E-N, rakuten.ca. Now, since Jodie didn't have any male roommates, this suggested that maybe someone else had
Starting point is 00:15:40 been over the night before or early that morning, but the investigators obviously don't know who. Beyond that, there were no signs of forced entry or a struggle inside. So given the state of the parking lot, their theory was that Jodi left her place rather quickly right after Amy called her, but she left on her own accord. She wasn't abducted from her apartment. She made it all the way out the door and was about to unlock her car when someone ambushed her and dragged her off. So the crime scene isn't necessarily inside Jodie's apartment. Now while the police were
Starting point is 00:16:17 reviewing the scene and gathering evidence, a man walked right up to the detectives and started talking to them. Now this obviously struck the officers as weird. There was no reason for him to be there. It's not like there's an obvious crime scene happening. And he just seemed a bit too comfortable inserting himself into this investigation progress. So this man comes up and they learned that the man's name was John Vanceis and he was actually one of Jody's friends. This was in spite of the fact that he was in
Starting point is 00:16:53 his late 40s, so nearly twice Jody's age. Apparently they actually got along great and John told the police that the two of them went on boating trips together pretty frequently. So he's sitting here talking to police saying, yeah, we're friends, which is rather weird that he just shows up when she happens to be missing, but I digress. He admits to the police during this conversation
Starting point is 00:17:15 that the night before, Jodie had actually been over at his apartment with him. Earlier that month, he had thrown her a party for her 27th birthday and he had also filmed the gathering and according to John last night he had invited Jodie over so they could watch the video of her party that he had made. So she had come over, they'd watched the tape and then she headed back to her own place. In other words, John is basically telling officers
Starting point is 00:17:45 that he's actually one of the last people who could have seen Jodie alive. But that was the night before her disappearance, hours before her call with Amy in the early morning hours where she seemed fine. So either way, the police called John in for a number of interrogations. And during his sessions, he admitted that
Starting point is 00:18:04 he had called Jodie's office on the morning of her disappearance to see if she'd made it in and he made this call before she was reported missing meaning sometime before 7 a.m. John who might be one of the last people to have seen her called Jodie's work to see if she was there, even though no one really knew at that point that she was missing. Again, there didn't seem to be any particular need for John to be talking to Jodie so early at a time when she would have been busy doing her job. So it's all just a little odd.
Starting point is 00:18:44 But when John submitted to a lie detector test, he passed. Now we obviously know that polygraph tests are not airtight and it is possible to pass even if you're lying. But frankly, the police didn't have any hard evidence against John. In fact, when they found Jodie's diary, they read it and learned that Jodie actually did like John and trusted him as a friend.
Starting point is 00:19:07 She never gave any indication that she was uncomfortable around him or afraid of him, nor did he have any history of behaving in a threatening way toward Jodie. In fact, from the way she wrote, she really seemed to genuinely enjoy the time they spent together including that birthday party he had thrown for her. So yes, he's inserting himself into the investigation. He's doing some odd things, but police didn't have any evidence against John
Starting point is 00:19:37 beyond the fact that he'd called her work and shown up at her apartment. It was odd, but not that odd for a close friend. They certainly couldn't arrest him or name him as a suspect, so the police classified John as a person of interest and moved on. The good news was that the officers had plenty of other people to investigate in this case. After all, Jodie was locally famous. She appeared on the news and virtually everyone who owned a television in that area
Starting point is 00:20:09 probably knew who Jodie was, which meant that, like a lot of celebrities, Jodie sometimes got unwanted attention from her fans. Based on some comments that she had made to her friends before her disappearance, she may have also had at least one stalker. Police learn that on October 8th, 1994, about six months before her disappearance,
Starting point is 00:20:35 Jodie had gone to the police and asked for their help. That day she had noticed a white pickup truck following her around. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like anything really came of that report. There's no record of the investigators tracking down the truck driver or making an arrest. And Jodi also never filed any follow-up complaints. So maybe this was a one-off incident and not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Except the next spring, in March, Jodi mentioned to some friends that she had signed up for self-defense classes. She said it was because she felt like at this point in her career she needed some extra protection, which isn't necessarily normal. And then the most disturbing detail came from just one day before her disappearance. Police learn on June 26th, Jodie had been playing golf with some friends, and as they were making their way through the course, she mentioned to two of her companions that she had changed her phone number recently.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Apparently, she was getting a lot of unwanted calls on her old number. In Jodie's own words, these calls were nasty and naughty. She couldn't get the caller to leave her alone, so in the end she had taken the only course she could, and now she had a whole new phone number. But sadly, nobody knew who was behind all of this, who had been possibly following her in the white truck, calling her and making her feel like she needed to learn self-defense.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Jodie's friends didn't even know if this was all one person. Maybe there was one prank caller, someone else following her in a truck, and some other factor that made her wanna take those courses. And it's also worth mentioning that if Jodie did have one or more stalkers, it was impossible to know their motives.
Starting point is 00:22:35 It could have been a fan who was obsessed with her after seeing her on TV. It could have been someone from her own life or social circle, or an angry ex, or someone who had romantic feelings for her and took them to an extreme. It also could have been someone who hated Jodie because of the work she did. Remember, Jodie was a reporter. This wouldn't be the first time we've seen a reporter get hurt from things they are reporting
Starting point is 00:23:02 on. A big part of Jodie's job was investigating powerful people and bringing uncomfortable truths to the light. So maybe one of the stories she was working on had gotten her too close to someone who was dangerous. Really, I mean, police are looking at this case and thinking, geez, the possibilities for motive are endless. So they were basically at square one in
Starting point is 00:23:27 terms of figuring out who had been making Jodie feel uneasy and frightened and who had done this. So they began by looking at the people who were close to her, as in physically close to her, people who lived or worked near the areas where she spent a lot of her time. And as it turned out, there were two people who lived near her apartment who had previous records as sex offenders. One of these men was a serial rapist who lived just two blocks away from Jodie. And the other man also lived nearby and he also had been convicted of sex crimes. Except when the police questioned both of these men, they both insisted they were innocent. And a lot like what had happened with John, there was no hard evidence to show that either of these men had anything to do with Jodie's disappearance. They did have a history of violent crimes for sure, but that didn't automatically mean that they could be blamed for every
Starting point is 00:24:25 disappearance that ever happened in Mason City. So that was probably the biggest issue with Jodie's case. There were a lot of theories floating around, but not much evidence to support any of them. She might have been kidnapped by a friend, a stalker, a sex offender, or honestly anyone else. The police could not rule anybody out. And they also didn't have any clear leads to follow. So as time went on, Jodie's case went cold. It seemed almost impossible that this very recognizable celebrity could just vanish without
Starting point is 00:25:03 a trace and yet to all appearances that is exactly what Jodie did. Six years go by and in 2001 with no breaks or arrests her family has Jodie legally declared dead. Obviously this was not an easy decision for them to make. And of course, they still hoped that Jodi was alive out there somewhere. But after so long, it is hard to stay optimistic. And on top of that, there were certain legal matters they had to deal with related to her assets and bank accounts.
Starting point is 00:25:39 In order to settle her affairs, her family had no choice but to declare her dead and begin the difficult process of grieving and trying to move on. Then, two years after that, a group of journalists launched a website called FindJodie.com. This is just more progress in this case. Interestingly, the people who created this website were not Jodi's friends or family members. They had never even met Jodi before her disappearance. They were journalists, just like her. Some of them had actually covered Jodi's case on their own networks, and afterward, they just couldn't get her story out of their heads. I mean, one of their own had randomly disappeared.
Starting point is 00:26:25 So they got together. They wanted her found and they also wanted her to receive justice. On this website, they posted news articles and updates. They shared videos and photos of Jodie so no one would forget her face. They kept her name alive and they collected donations so they could keep advocating for her and honestly for other missing people. In 2010, they decided to up their website and formed a non-profit to fund their ongoing work. And as it turned out, the general public was also eager to see what they had to share. The website was very popular and at its peak it was getting hundreds of visitors a day. Now, that might not sound like a lot, but keep in mind that the early 2000s were still
Starting point is 00:27:10 a time where there were fewer websites and fewer people visiting them. But the Find Jodi page was one of the best resources for information about this case. There were no true crime podcasts or true crime TikTok back then. Anytime the police thought that they'd made a new break, FindJodie.com was there to report on it. For example, they covered the headlines when the police subpoenaed John Vansice, the friend who had made the birthday video.
Starting point is 00:27:38 This subpoena actually happened in 2017, meaning the police had reopened Jody's case and were probably re-investigating early persons of interest. Yes, 2017, meaning it had been 22 years since Jody's disappearance. They were still searching for leads. The subpoena required John to give the police his fingerprints and palm print and to share some GPS information on two different vehicles he used to own. Unfortunately, the investigators never
Starting point is 00:28:10 announced what they learned from the prints or the GPS data, if anything, and they didn't arrest John or reclassify him from a person of interest to a suspect. So as near as we can tell, nothing really came of this new break in 2017. And then afterward, the case would go cold again for another seven years. Which takes us to the latest set of developments in Jodi's case, which actually all happened in the fall and winter of 2024. Okay, so it starts in mid-October when someone made a tip to the police. Unfortunately, the officials haven't released the tipster's identity and we don't know exactly what the person said either. I think it's safe to say that
Starting point is 00:29:06 investigators in this case are keeping things closed down. We do know though that the information on this tip led the investigators to a town called Winstead, Minnesota. Now, Winstead is a community of about 2,200 people. Anywhere else, it would count as a small town, but in rural Midwest, it was considered a small city. It was also just about a half hour outside of Minneapolis, and it was 130 miles north of Mason City where Jodie disappeared in those early morning hours So it wasn't very close to her apartment
Starting point is 00:29:49 But for whatever reason the police still thought that the information on this tip that led them to this city Was worth searching so in November Police descended on an empty field an apartment was under construction not too far away, but the land the police were searching was part of a public city-owned park. Now, we don't know exactly what they were looking for, if they expected to find a body, or a murder weapon, or a clue, but I do know that after the search was over, the police confirmed that they had failed to recover any human remains. There were some animal bones, but that was to be expected in a rural, mostly empty park.
Starting point is 00:30:35 If they found anything else that was of interest in this recent search, they haven't disclosed that publicly. However, it does sound like the officials might be getting closer to learning what happened to Jodie. There's definitely things going on behind the scenes that we do not know about. And I'm basing that assumption in part on a statement from a man named Steve Ridge. Steve is a private detective who has been working on Jody's case for a long time.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And according to him, when he began his investigation, he had a huge list of potential suspects. It included every person he could think of who might have had the means, motive, and opportunity to hurt Jody back in the 90s. Then Steve eliminated people from that list one by one. He was checking alibis, he was gathering evidence, confirming their motives and so on.
Starting point is 00:31:32 By November 16th, 2024, Steve had crossed off all but four names on this list that he had made and he was very confident that one of these four people was Jodie's killer. He just needed a bit more evidence before he could say for sure what person was responsible. It was tantalizing being so close to finally having an answer.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Now in an interview, Steve said that while investigating Jodie's death, he uncovered what he believes to be that Jodie was murdered by someone who had romantic feelings for her. That was his thought. And the killer was jealous because she had been seeing someone new right before she went missing. So according to Steve, on June 17th, 1995, which is about a week and a half before her disappearance, Jodie had gone out to a bar. It was a Saturday night and the weekend crowd was all there. Before the night was over,
Starting point is 00:32:38 Jodie struck up a conversation with a man. There was an immediate spark and an instant attraction. man, there was an immediate spark and an instant attraction. Over the course of the next 10 days, they went on no fewer than five dates. This is what Steve learns. Yes, you heard that right. They went on five dates in 10 days, mini golf, dinners out, and she even went over to his place at least one time. They also talked on the phone every single day. Steve says Jodie was falling for this guy. Interestingly, she didn't tell many of her friends about her new man. My guess is that the relationship was just still too new.
Starting point is 00:33:16 She had known him less than two weeks. But she did mention him to one or two people, and those people actually told the police about the new boyfriend when Jodie vanished. So while Steve's looking into this and he uncovers this information that police know about, he thinks that there's a possibility that word made it back to one of Jodie's male friends or companions that she was seeing someone new and possibly that guy became violently possessive. This man very well might have killed Jodie once he realized that she didn't feel the same way about
Starting point is 00:33:52 him that he did about her. In Steve's opinion, the murderer probably buried Jodie very close to the apartment where she lived, not hundreds of miles away in Minnesota, but actually somewhere within a 26 mile radius. So this would mean that the tip police searched earlier does not line up with Steve's theory. Now, Steve never said who he suspected this person was, who was so obsessed with Jodi that he might've been willing to kill her. However, the PI did make an interesting comment
Starting point is 00:34:24 in a recent interview with News Nation. Steve on this news station said he thought the killer, even if he was caught, would probably never be convicted. Steve didn't explain how the alleged murderer would escape a conviction, but it's worth mentioning that when he gave that interview, John Van Sise, the friend who made the birthday tape, happened to show up at the crime scene and also call her work to see if she made it in the next day. He was in his late 60s. He was reportedly suffering from Alzheimer's disease, which would have made it impossible for him to ever go on trial if he was
Starting point is 00:35:05 accused of a serious crime. So people start putting two and two together and given Steve's comments about the killer probably never getting a conviction and the fact that Steve thinks it was a male friend who was close to Jodie, it's possible that John was Steve's top suspect. Now, this is not for sure. This is just what people have considered. And if that was the case, I can now say with certainty that John will never face justice for Jodie's disappearance if he was involved because he died of natural causes on December 6th, 2024.
Starting point is 00:35:43 His family kept the news quiet for a few weeks. They never released an obituary. And now we will never know what he knew, if anything, about what happened to Jodie. Now I know people just put two and two together thinking that John was the guy that Steve was talking about, but there is another possibility out there. There is another person of interest who couldn't be convicted because he is also already dead. This
Starting point is 00:36:09 man's name is Christopher Reevak and he might be a serial killer, but it's hard to say because there are a lot of allegations about his history that are impossible to confirm, but here's what we do know. Back in 1995, Christopher's ex-wife lived in Mason City. This is the same city where Jodie went missing that same year. Obviously, this is not a super strong connection, but if Christopher was in contact with his ex and visiting her in Mason City,
Starting point is 00:36:39 he might've seen Jodie on the news or even ran into her on the street. More importantly, over 10 years later in 2006, a 21 year old woman named Deidre Harm went missing in Wisconsin. And the circumstances of her disappearance were eerily similar to Jodie's. Deidre was 21 years old hitting bars with some friends and then vanished without a trace. Months later, her body was found and it was clear she had been murdered. And then a year after that, in 2007, Renee Williams also went missing and this time after leaving her shift as a bartender in a
Starting point is 00:37:18 Missouri town. So in this completely separate investigation from Jodi, detectives put together a list of everyone who had been at the bar that night and who might have talked to Renee and one of her customers was Christopher. Okay, this is the same Christopher whose wife lived in Mason City and he could have been visiting her putting him in proximity to Jodie. And even more alarmingly, Christopher's wife came forward not too long after this and said that Christopher had confessed to her and he allegedly told her point blank that he had killed Renee.
Starting point is 00:37:52 So in this again completely separate investigation, this was enough for the police to arrest him and put him in jail. But before his case could go to trial, Christopher took his own life and any information he might have had died with him. So that means to this day, they can never be sure if he really murdered Renee. It seems likely, but maybe he lied when he confessed to his wife. I mean, he was at the bar where Renee was before she died and then his wife also came forward and said he did it.
Starting point is 00:38:20 But we won't know. We'll also never know if he had anything to do with Deidre's murder or Jodie's disappearance. This is just a connection people have made. But very recently in December of 2024, a podcast called Forgotten Wisconsin Cold Cases presented this theory, okay, that Christopher had killed all three women. And if he was responsible for these three murders,
Starting point is 00:38:42 he might've committed more too. It was impossible to say how many victims he may have had. They are just kind of assuming that Christopher was a serial killer. Either way, the police took those allegations very seriously and they opened up an investigation right away. And as of this recording, we are still waiting to hear the outcome and if there is anything stronger to link Christopher to Jodie. Officially, Jodie's case is still open and unsolved, and the police are willing to explore
Starting point is 00:39:13 almost any possibility. So I'll end today's episode by saying that if you know anything about Jodie's disappearance, officials are still accepting tips. And I'll also say, the police suspect that Christopher might have had more victims, including people who could have survived his attacks. So if you or someone you know escaped an attempted abduction in the Midwest in the 90s or 2000s, again, please let the police know. The Mason City Police Department can be reached at 641-421-3000. And the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation is at 515-725-6010. If you don't have a tip and you still want to help out, findjodie.com does still accept donations to continue funding their work.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Even a social media post could help. The point is, there are a lot of people out there who are still looking for answers even after all these years. And what we can do is spread awareness about Jodie's case and the other cases that might be linked to hers. And hopefully all of these efforts will pay off soon. And that is the unsolved case of Jodi Hussentrout. Thank you so much for watching or listening today and I will see you next time as we dive further into the dark together. Goodbye.

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