Murder With My Husband - 273. The Man Who Dreamt His Own Death - John Yelenic
Episode Date: June 16, 2025In this episode, Payton and Garrett unravel a chilling murder case, one where the victim seemed to sense his fate long before it struck. As tension builds and secrets surface, they explore how John Ye...lenic’s life spiraled into a deadly end he may have seen coming. Links: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband NEW MERCH LINK: https://mwmhshop.com Discount Codes: https://mailchi.mp/c6f48670aeac/oh-no-media-discount-codes Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/themwmh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/murderwithmyhusband/ Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@murderwithmyhusband Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327 Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7?si=f5224c9fd99542a7 Case Sources: Oxygen.com - https://www.oxygen.com/dateline-secrets-uncovered/crime-news/state-trooper-kevin-foley-kills-dentist-john-yelenic MSN.com - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/the-murder-of-john-yelenic-shattered-a-small-community-but-they-could-never-guess-who-did-it/ar-AA1xOQVa?apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1 Wikinews.org - https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_state_trooper_found_guilty_of_first-degree_murder NBCNews.com - https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna29601049 Cybgen.com - https://www.cybgen.com/news/cases/Pennsylvania-v-Kevin-Foley.shtml IndianaGazette.com - https://www.indianagazette.com/news/cousin-to-john-yelenic-recalls-his-murder-at-crime-scene-diorama-presentation/article_85447758-ed5e-5d77-91a6-6f8823a39bb2.html SoapCentral.com - https://www.soapcentral.com/shows/dateline-5-harrowing-details-kevin-foley-s-crime-explored FindAGrave.com - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14421356/john_joseph-yelenic NBC.com - https://www.nbc.com/dateline/video/the-premonition/9000204536 HappyScribe.com - https://www.happyscribe.com/public/dateline-nbc/the-premonition Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hey everybody, welcome back to the podcast.
This is Murder With My Husband.
I'm Peyton Morland.
And I'm Garrett Morland.
And he's the husband.
And I'm the husband.
You know we've sat in these same chairs for five years.
I guess, yeah, five,
because I think we got them the first year.
Yeah, I think you're right.
This table right here, Gary got this.
Where do we get this?
On Facebook Marketplace.
Guys, the table that is in front of us,
if you're not watching on video, if you're listening.
But it's our set, we've recorded here for five years.
Yeah, same set.
Table in front of us,
Peyton and I got when we first got married.
We didn't have any money.
This was like 40 bucks.
Yeah, off Facebook Marketplace.
Off Facebook Marketplace, some guy built it.
We went to, it was pretty far.
Yeah.
It was kind of sketchy.
It was.
But we went up, went into their backyard,
grabbed the table, went home,
and this thing is still hanging on.
The state with us.
Just, there's some pieces that are coming apart, but you can't tell.
Well, we used to attach our mics onto the side of the table and those
side pieces, like, I don't know if you can see they're like almost
broke off from the weight of those mics.
So we had to change the way we do that.
At this point, we can't get rid of it.
It's nostalgia.
It almost feels like it's carrying all of our energy.
Like from the beginning of this podcast, it's almost like a relic.
Yeah, it's actually kind of crazy.
So we've had this table for a long time.
Chairs.
We got new mics.
Yeah, we've got like new mics and equipment and stuff like that.
The table and chairs.
Hanging on by a thread.
Don't have much for my 10 seconds today, but I don't know.
Look, I have some good podcast ideas.
What?
Tell him.
I don't know.
I kind of want to start a conspiracy theory podcast,
but I don't know if I want to start any more podcasts.
You know, I do that over on Into the Dark.
Are you trying to compete with me?
No, remember I told you it was going to be different.
Yeah, he did tell. It was like a different form of her format and stuff and
It could be cool only conspiracy theories not true crime
No only conspiracy theory just because I'm pretty open-minded
like I will like kind of listens to people I will kind of listen to
Different people's opinions and be like, okay, I can see that or I understand that and so
Do you think you could be convinced of almost anything?
Well, it depends.
I mean, sorry, I thought about that for a second.
I mean, like you'd have to give me both sides
and then let me form an opinion.
Yeah. Does that make sense?
Yeah, I think.
But I think there's certain things
that I have strong opinions on that,
like, no, I wouldn't budge from,
but I feel like majority of things, like, no, I wouldn't budge from, but I feel like majority of things like conspiracy theories, for example, I like I'd sit
there and listen and like truly try to like take in what the person's saying.
Also, I love, I like, I'm a good, I like, I like a good conspiracy theory.
Do you think you would play devil's advocate?
To an extent.
I think I could be convinced of everything.
So I don't think I'd be a good host
for a conspiracy theory podcast.
I feel like there are certain things
where I'd be like, that sounds a little dumb.
Yeah, I don't know, but I would ever say that.
That's a little crazy.
Oh, okay, I see.
I would, I'd be like, I don't know about that.
That's like, that's a little wild.
Yeah.
Anyways.
That would be interesting though.
Yeah, it would be interesting. Maybe we'll talk about another time. Get into get into it.
On that note, let's hop into today's case and hope you guys love it.
I just couldn't speak English at the end.
Our sources for this episode are oxygen.commsn.com wiki news org, NBC news.com side, I work
side, Jen.com, Indiana gazette.com soap central.com find a grave NBC.com and
happy scribe.com. So we've definitely covered cases on the show that have had
dreams and premonitions. Typically someone who says a vision came to them
in the middle of the night, an image of a friend or even a stranger
lying motionless somewhere,
surrounded by a pool of their own blood.
And sometimes these people do wake up
and decide they're gonna report it to the police.
And oftentimes that dream or premonition
makes them a person of interest in the case,
because when you randomly show up to the police
and say, I had a dream of a murder,
and the murder's real,
well then a vision like that
isn't something that comes across a detective's desk every day.
It definitely looks suspicious.
But what happens when the person having that vision, that premonition about a murder is
the victim themselves?
And do you follow that information as a clue when the person who predicted their own
death actually turns up gruesomely murdered in their own home?
Okay. Today we are dialing back the clock 19 years, which should be like 1987, but it's actually 2006.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Okay.
Right?
Yep.
You're correct.
As we head to a small town called Blairsville, Pennsylvania to meet a
single dad named John Jelenik, the 39 year old single dad, John has spent
most of his life in Blairsville, Pennsylvania.
John has spent most of his life in Blairsville, Pennsylvania, and that's where he was born on February 20th, 1967. Though when he was born, John didn't get
to spend much time with his father because tragically his dad died in a car
accident when he was just a few months old. Luckily though, John had a strong
mother who was dedicated to giving him the best life possible. And it seems like
John worked hard growing up to make his mother proud. He was always making honor roll in school,
and he seemed to know exactly what he wanted to do with his life. After he graduated, he set his
sights on college, where he made the Dean's List. And then he went on to dental school.
And after getting his degree, he partnered up with his own childhood dentist, the same
person who had inspired him and mentored him.
And together they started a new practice in Blairsville.
But John wasn't just any dentist.
He worked with kids.
He made them feel comfortable, happy, maybe even excited to get their teeth cleaned, which
I imagine
isn't an easy job.
But John wasn't all work.
He had a fun loving side too.
A lot of people who knew John would describe him as a bit old fashioned.
He had a taste for old movies and music.
He wasn't really one to get in on new technology trends.
He never owned a cell phone, but a lot of his friends agreed he was always the life of the party.
If you walked into a room,
you could always find John surrounded by a group of people
telling them some story that was making all of them smile,
which was seemingly what attracted a beautiful young woman
named Michelle Kamler to John
back when they were in their twenties.
Now, everyone said
Michelle was a total catch for John and apparently he knew it too. The bookworm
had finally landed the homecoming queen. This was the way John described it to
his friends. When they met Michelle was a divorced mother of two who worked at
bars as a Budweiser girl. And while things were
definitely moving fast between the couple, Michelle really seemed to be
dedicated to their relationship. When John's mother got sick with pancreatic
cancer, Michelle stepped in to help out in every way she could while John was
busy trying to get his new practice off the ground. So it was clear that things
were serious between them because just two months into their relationship,
John gave Michelle a two-carat engagement ring.
That New Year's Eve, 1997, the couple flew to Vegas
and tied the knot officially, making Michelle Mrs. Jelenik.
And John wore the role of stepfather really nicely too. He helped
shuttle the kids to school, sporting events, social activities, but there was
still something missing for John. He had always wanted a child of his own. And so
he and Michelle seemingly tried for a while, and when it became clear that
things weren't going the way they planned, they decided to look into
adoption. They found an agency in Russia who paired them with a little boy.
They would go on to name JJ and with JJ now back in America living with
the family or like they adopted him, got a boy.
They adopted a kid.
John finally felt like his life was complete, especially as his
practice started to blossom.
The family bought a nice house for their three kids, had a pool, a hot tub, a bar.
But over time, cracks started to form in the couple's marriage.
It began with little things, like John would be affectionate with Michelle, though she
didn't seem to return it.
And then about four years in, rumors began that both of them were cheating
on each other. So by 2002, John and Michelle had decided they were just no longer meant to be
together. Michelle took the kids and moved out of John's house officially separating. But as the next
few years passed, John started to feel a bit paranoid.
Okay, so his wife moves out with his kids.
So they separate, wife moves out with the kids.
Okay.
So sometime around early 2006,
so this is about four years after they separated,
John contacted his lawyer with a strange request.
He gave them $10,000 and told them to set it aside
for something specific.
He basically says to his lawyer,
I have a feeling that I'm gonna be murdered.
And if I am, I need you to use this cash
to investigate my death.
What the freak?
Okay.
So John didn't tell the attorney who he was suspicious of or even why, but he seemed very
convinced.
He knew something bad was about to happen to him and that the police would likely never
find his killer.
He even mentioned something about how he thought his death would be covered up as well.
And he believed there would be no evidence left behind.
Now this whole thing is strange
for several reasons obviously,
but one of the biggest being,
if you had a sense of who was going to kill you,
wouldn't you just tell them,
like tell the lawyer the name, someone to look out for?
Why would you put money aside
to investigate your own death?
It's got me a little confused.
Well, he doesn't say any names.
So maybe he's coming to his lawyer with this premonition of no idea who's going to kill
him, only a feeling.
And unfortunately that vision, gut instinct, whatever you want to call it, turns out to be right.
Because on April 13th, 2006, that same year, John's next door neighbor, a nine-year-old
boy named Zachary, comes over to John's house to see if his son, JJ, is home and if he just
wants to come outside and play.
But as he's walking up their driveway to the front porch, Zach notices broken glass on the front steps.
And then he sees that one of the glass panels
on the side of the door is broken
and there's some blood on it.
Now, when he peeks inside the house,
he only sees their red carpeting at first.
So he doesn't notice the pools of blood in the house,
but he does see emotionless 39 year old John
lying on the floor with his throat slit.
Oh my gosh.
From ear to ear.
So this nine year old little boy, Zack,
runs back home as fast as he can.
Holy crap, dude.
Grabs his older brother and the two of them call nine
one one and within a matter of minutes, John's home is swarming with first
responders and police, but there's no hope for John. He is pronounced dead at
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they misunderstood and put the call out
as someone having died from a heart attack at John's address.
So when police arrived, they are shocked to find
that this is no heart attack.
Someone has been like violently slit from ear to ear.
This is obviously not an accidental heart attack.
This is a murder with intention.
And whoever did it left bloody boot prints
leading out of the back door of the house.
In fact, cops notice there is blood everywhere in the house
on the carpet, the walls by the front door.
And when detectives go down into the basement,
they also see a pool of blood there too.
So at first they think this is probably
where the crime began, but when they look up,
they realize there's just so much blood
spilling from John's body upstairs
that it had actually started dripping down
through the floor into the basement.
Holy crap, that makes me, I feel nauseous.
And that's how bad and bloody this attack was. When the forensic pathologist gets there,
they literally describe it as quote, one of the most violent deaths they had ever seen.
So as a forensic team collects samples for DNA analysis, detectives are speaking to other people in the neighborhood who say
they had actually heard some pretty interesting things coming from John's home the night before.
So a little before 1.30 in the morning, one neighbor tells police
they heard what sounded like a loud argument,
and they said they heard John screaming something
along the lines of, quote, I'll never loan you money again.
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first statement about John yelling at someone in his home in regards to loaning
money. Well that sort of tracks because apparently John was a pretty generous
person who had helped several people out with loans over the years. And one of them actually being one of his neighbors,
a woman named Melissa Youse. So Melissa and John had been friends for a long time. Apparently,
they actually went to high school together. And recently, John had loaned Melissa about $15,000
to start up a bakery that she wanted to open, which wouldn't be all that weird, except Melissa was apparently
married and there were rumors that she and John might have been more like than old high school
friends. Something that wouldn't have been too hard considering Melissa's husband was in the
Navy, so he was gone for long stretches of time. Oh, and by the way, Melissa and her husband Tom are
Zach's parents, the nine-year-old little boy who came over and found John dead in
his house that day. You know, this is kind of random. I mean, not super random. I just
find it interesting, like how having an affair with if you're in the military is is illegal the right word.
It's illegal in their law.
Yeah.
But like, obviously, if you're not, then it's not illegal.
At least in the.
Yeah, I know there's other countries with different role in talking about the US.
Well, and I guess like it's illegal not in the way of like, oh, you would go to jail.
You just get kicked out.
So it's basically just like honor code.
Yeah, like job honor code.
Yeah, that's true.
But is vastly different, right?
From any other job where it's.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very different.
If you work at a bank and you're cheating on your spouse, you're not going to get
fired. It's like that's an that's your issue.
Yeah, I was also going to say, but it also could be because.
Like a lot of people get married when
they're in the military for different benefits, so it also could be because like a lot of people get married when they're in the military for different benefits. So it also could be surrounded around that.
Definitely. I'm sure there's people that are listening that are in the armed
forces that will have more information, but just a food for thought. So when
police start learning all of this more about john more about the neighbors,
they wonder, is it possible that tom, this is melissa's husband,, came home realized his wife was having an affair with John because John had lent
her money and then did something to John. But the more they look into these
neighbors the more they realize it's not really adding up for them. For starters
the bloody shoe print that they found leaving the house, which means after the
blood was already coming out someone stepped in that and left, so probably not
the victim.
They realize it's not the same size as Tom.
And when they give Tom a polygraph, he passes.
He even says he liked John,
that he was actually really upset by the loss.
So the police pivot to someone else
John had loaned money to, his cousin.
This is a man named Tracy Jacobs.
Now, apparently Tracy went to John when he needed help starting his lawn mowing business.
And John, the good guy that he was, gave him about $20,000.
But when police speak with Tracy, he's like,
no, my cousin John didn't loan me that money.
It was a gift.
Like John wasn't asking me to pay that money back.
And then Tracy passes a polygraph too.
So this lead of a neighbor hearing John yell,
I'll never loan you money again.
It's kind of just taking detectives
on this wild goose chase
that isn't going anywhere at the moment.
Which means now it's time to look at the one person
John did seem to maybe have bad blood with
is soon to be ex-wife, Michelle.
So the more they look into John's past, the more detectives learn that the timing of John's
death isn't completely random.
See at the scene of the crime, they find something very telling.
On John's coffee table covered in his own blood are his divorce papers, papers that he was set to sign and file the very next.
What the freak?
So they've been officially separated for years, but never actually gone through
and finalized a divorce. Wasn't she the one who wanted the divorce or am I wrong?
They both mutually agreed because the
rumors were they both had stepped out on their marriage.
Okay.
Because of their separation, Michelle was actually
currently receiving about $2,500 a month
in spousal support, but this was something
that she was going to lose the second
the divorce papers got filed.
By this point though, Michelle had already moved on,
at least romantically, she was now living with her kids and her new boyfriend a
Pennsylvania State Trooper named Kevin Foley and it was in a new house
They had actually been dating for two years by this point. Remember the couple had been separated since 2002
It's now 2006 and the day before John is finally going to make the divorce official. He's brutally murdered in his own home
This is not a good look for Michelle. Just interesting because no
way $2,500 a month is enough to murder somebody. Well you have that but then you
also have what detectives learn about the history of those four years between
the separation and this day. Things had got pretty heated between the two of them.
Michelle seemingly did some pretty awful things to try and get her way during this time.
For example, about a year and a half after they separated, Michelle accused John of physically
abusing their adopted son, JJ. Something every single one of John's friends denies being a
possibility. They say they never even saw John raise his voice, let alone a hand at JJ.
Still, Michelle got a court order to keep John away from her and JJ.
And then she reported him for violating
that order, and John was arrested at his own dental practice one afternoon because
of this. OK, now from there, the unfounded allegations against John
continue to the point where Michelle claimed John was now sexually abusing
JJ. However, a judge found zero evidence of these accusations and this abuse,
and it never results in any charges. Instead, Michelle was accused of coaching
the six year old JJ to make these
accusations against his father.
That is horrible.
A horrible, horrible parent. Do that to another parent.
Obviously we have no idea what was going on behind closed doors.
So all we can trust is what's been reported.
But it also sounds very similar to the case we did where this happens off.
Yeah.
I remember she was just claiming a bunch of false things and it
ended up proven to be false and she wait, I forget. Oh, he died.
Well, and honestly, yeah, he got killed this. I don't have
statistics here, but messy divorces are messy because of
things like this. Yeah, it's just toxic. The person wants to
hurt the other person wants to get as much as they can,
unfortunately, which honestly, it's just toxic. The person wants to hurt the other person to get as much as they can. Unfortunately, which honestly it should be illegal.
Like I think they should create more laws around it. It should be illegal to
use the kid in some way to hurt the other person. Well, according to everyone
in this couple's life, you know, during these four years of separation,
Michelle seemed to be playing a pretty complicated game because she wanted John out of her life.
She wanted to move on.
She wanted to be divorced,
but she also wanted his money.
He made pretty good money being a dentist.
By January, 2006, it seemed like she was getting closer
to making that a reality because they came to an agreement
that said Michelle would get 60% of their assets
and that they would share custody of JJ.
Police are like, okay, that's a pretty good deal
for a divorce, but maybe she wasn't satisfied.
If John was dead and they were still married,
not only would she get all of the assets,
she also stood to gain a million dollar
life insurance payout.
Maybe John sensed this.
Maybe that's why he went to his lawyer and gave him the 10 grand to investigate his death.
If he died suddenly, here's the thing.
There's no evidence at the scene of the crime that points to Michelle.
So sure, you can come up with a motive for an ex-, but those boot prints were far too large to be hers boyfriend. And when questioned,
Michelle adamantly denies having anything to do with John's death. So now
we're going to move over to the autopsy for a second because I found it
interesting that the person working the case, Dr. Cyril Wecht, happens to be a pretty high profile pathologist.
He's consulted on cases like the JFK assassination, the John
Benet-Ramsey case.
Apparently he's performed more than 20,000 autopsies.
And coincidentally, he lives really close to John.
So he's asked to help out with this murder too.
Coincidentally, he lives really close to John, so he's asked to help out with this murder too.
And based on what he finds there, Dr. Wecht comes up with his version of what he thinks
happened to John before he died.
And it went something like this.
He says, John was chased through the house by someone.
His head shoved through the pained glass window by his front door, causing major, nearly fatal
injuries to the side of his neck, but it doesn't end there.
Wecht then thinks John's attacker pulled a knife on him, one with a six-inch blade or
longer, and used it to slash John's throat where he was then left for dead.
But Wecht says John's attacker had to be someone bigger than him to make all of this happen,
and John was six feet tall.
So this means it likely was not Michelle herself who pursued him that night.
Gotta be her boyfriend.
It's gotta.
So between that and the boot prints, it's gotta be someone else.
But here's where detectives get creative.
Worrying that the case might need more physical evidence, one officer named Janelle Lydic
shows up at the morgue and she takes fingernail clippings off of John, but she doesn't send
them to the state crime lab.
Instead, she puts them in the storage refrigerator at the Blairsville Borough Police Station
and doesn't tell anyone.
And while this may seem pretty shady,
Officer Lydic is actually trying to help
because she sees a conspiracy unfolding
and she wants to make sure that she's protecting the evidence in this case
at all costs.
What is going on right now?
Okay, so she is freezing or saving? Saving the fingernails?
Evidence. But the fingernails? Yeah because if he fought his attacker okay DNA would be in it. Yeah
yeah okay. So remember I said Michelle had been dating someone for two years. You remember what I said he did?
No. He was a Pennsylvania state trooper named Kevin Foley.
Surprise, surprise.
Oh my gosh.
Kevin and John didn't really get along too well.
And Kevin's name was definitely being whispered
around the local police station
when John turned up murdered.
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But Lydic, who was running her first murder investigation
ever, was told by superiors not to interview him,
not to even really look in his direction.
Like we know he is dating the ex-wife, but he's one of us.
I can't take that.
Don't go there.
No, it annoys me, but
she's like
Making me even more suspicious
The stakes are really high for her though. She doesn't want to mess up this case
It's her first murder case hence the storing the fingernails for later, but not really telling anyone
The more though she considers Kevin the more these red flags pop up. Like the fact that right
after the murder, Kevin supposedly had this big mark on his forehead and when someone asked him
what happened, he said, oh, I just got hurt playing hockey. But Leidig feels like her hands are tied.
Even if she were to speak out against Kevin in the department, who's going to listen to her?
Especially because it seems like everyone is protecting him? The state police, which Kevin is one of, comes knocking on the Blairsville police's door
to say, hey, we're actually going to take over the investigation now.
Wait, what?
I don't think it works like that.
Well, the state police apparently do get a search warrant for Kevin's car in the house
he shares with Michelle, but they claim they search it and they don't find anything.
Now whether or not they actually did their job or just wanted to make it seem like they did and clear him as a suspect
I have no idea but I can tell you this of Rick is going on the case starts to run cold
Meanwhile the rest of John's friends and family are literally shouting from the rooftops. Hi
please interview Kevin Foley like
Tape it and let us know that you've done this.
Like, let us know that you have properly looked into him.
Like he's clearly an issue here.
I need to know what the was going on with the attorneys.
Well, John had mentioned to a friend that he was being threatened by someone in the
police force before he went to that attorney and gave him the money.
Okay.
I remember he told the attorney,
I feel like my death also might be covered up.
Now luckily that same friend who John had talked to
is involved in local politics.
So they go to the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office
and say, hey, so this is what's going on over here.
There is a man who's been murdered
and his ex-wife is dating a cop.
And he had told me before all of this that he was having issues with the cop
and now he comes up murdered.
I don't think the case is getting proper attention.
I'm not saying one of the cops has murdered him.
I'm just saying I don't think the case is being properly looked into.
And once the state prosecutors start looking into the case, they realize there are problems
in this case that they might be dealing with some sort of police corruption over here.
So as they're looking back at the case files, they find all of these interviews from Kevin's
coworkers, none from Kevin himself though.
So there's no interviews in files from Kevin, but all of his coworkers claim, yeah, Kevin
hated John. In these interviews, his coworkers would say that Kevin would just casually
mention out loud how he wished John, his girlfriend's ex-husband or soon-to-be
ex-husband, would die a horrible death.
What is wrong with people?
And that was sometimes the first thing out of his mouth after the words,
good morning.
Like he made it very
Obvious and loud that he hated this man. It's crazy what an ego can do
Like it's absolutely wild what an ego can do and we see it every day with just
People in general just like how their egos completely just can't stay silent. They just can't they can't handle it
No, like so many men more than women,
like so many men, they just cannot handle any form of,
I don't even know, any form of feeling inferior at all.
Well, and he just like, can't help but to walk
into a place of work as someone who has power
and let everyone
in the office know who has no idea who John is.
They have no affiliation with John.
It's not like he's also a co-worker.
I say I hate this guy care.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not their lives.
Like your delusional.
These people don't even care, but you are so bothered in it that you think
everyone cares, you think your opinion needs to be
heard. People are wild. So the prosecutors are like, okay, we're looking into Kevin right now.
And they start to compile some real evidence against him. And it starts with some surveillance
footage. So they find these security tapes from two convenience stores right near John's house
from the night of his death. And in them, they see a truck passing by around 1am headed in the direction of
John's house. And remember, this is about 30 minutes before
neighbors hear those horrible, what they said pig noises coming from John's house.
Here's the thing about this truck in this footage, though,
while the prosecutors feel confident that it is Kevin's truck, they have it analyzed by an FBI specialist and they're like, hey, it's kind of hard to make out.
There's some similarities to his truck, but there's also differences too.
So it's not the smoking gun they're after. They keep digging and they start looking at the bloody boot prints that were left behind.
Now, they do seem to be Kevin's size, but that alone is not going to make
them able to press charges. What they needed to match was the tread of the boots as well.
They needed to prove that Kevin owned boots that matched the ones from the blood prints.
And they find that it's a brand of shoe called ASICS, but they learn it's a limited edition
shoe that was never sold in stores in Western Pennsylvania.
However, the brand actually had
this law enforcement purchase program thing
at the time that allows police and firefighters to order.
Oh man, it's all coming down.
Directly from them for a discount.
Now this is in 2006 before shopping online.
I mean, it just wasn't what it is now.
So it's a lot crazier that someone was ordering directly from a store and not in person
And when they look into those records they find sure enough Kevin Foley bought a pair of these same
Special edition shoes before John's death. Okay. I just have to say what an absolute
When what an idiot because he's a cop and just that he forget that
wouldn't what an idiot because he's a cop and just that he forget that they
would be able to do this. Like also you just walked out with you didn't even
try to clean up your boot prints like you're a cop. You know what they're
going to be looking for. I just think this goes to show that like he really
didn't think he didn't care. He's hated. He's like I'm safe like I'm safe. I'm
a cop too. Yeah, I will never be charged for this. I don't even need to try to
think he just hated him so much. I don't think he cared. Like what was happening in that moment?
So this is obviously the same tread and size
as the bloody prints found in John's home.
But there was still one more piece of evidence
that they wanted to examine.
And that was the secret fingernail clippings
that Lydic had kept after the autopsy.
Those still hadn't been sent out for DNA testing,
but that was about to change.
So the clippings are sent to an FBI crime lab.
And when they come back with the results, they say,
there's only a one in 13,000 chance
that the DNA found under John's fingernails
does not belong to Kevin Foley.
Those are pretty good odds.
That's also a weird way to say it though.
Instead of saying there's a really good chance it's the DNA.
You know what I'm saying?
No offense to how you said that or how that was written, but it was just
like there's a one in 13 chance it no 13,000 chance it's not usually.
I don't know.
Anyways, keep going.
Well, how else would I have said that
there's a one in
there's like a 50% chance that it is his DNA.
Well, when you're ruling out like when you're ruling out that it's just usually
we do it backwards, you know what I'm saying?
Okay, but I know what you're saying.
It was just, you know, it confused me a little.
Don't blame me.
Blame the sources that give me the information. I can't change their statistic.
I don't know that. I don't blame you. These are pretty good odds either way in my opinion that this DNA
belongs to Kevin Foley and then you add in everything else. The DA is confident
they have enough to file murder charges and on September 27th, 2006,
the state trooper is finally arrested for John's
murder. Kevin's trial begins in March of 2009 and here is the story the prosecution paints.
On the evening of April 13th 2006 Kevin might have shown up at John's house to bully him about some
of the terms of his divorce agreement, including
the spousal support Michelle was about to lose when the divorce went through. Maybe
the discussion got heated, a fight broke out and ended in murder after Kevin pursued John
through his home. Now, when it comes to evidence, one in 13,000 chances that it's not his DNA isn't great when 13 million people are in
Pennsylvania. But it's been two years since they got those results back by the
time of trial. So in the meantime, DNA testing had made some pretty big leaps
and bounds. So during the trial, they call up another expert who ran that DNA
again in a newer test, and their technology says there's actually a one in one hundred and eighty nine billion chance that it's someone else's DNA.
Okay. That feels like a smoking gun. Now of course the defense tries to refute
these findings especially because this is really the first time that results
from this new technology have been used in court before but they also point to a
few different loose ends that they believe show Kevin is innocent. Like the
fact that someone heard John yell, I'm never
going to loan you money again, even though John had never actually.
Yeah, but I mean, let's be honest, I are always all over the place.
They even tried to point the finger at an already incarcerated convict who
said he killed John, even though he had zero connection to the case.
Overall, the defense's case of trial is pretty weak, especially when they called up one of
Kevin's friends and fellow troopers who said Kevin had asked him at one point to actually
help him kill John.
Oh my gosh.
And then shockingly, Kevin Foley himself takes the stand at his own trial.
He kept insisting he was innocent and that he had a sick sense of humor and sometimes he did make off-colored jokes but he claimed he
never said any of these things with the intention of actually carrying them out.
So he's like yeah yeah I did say that I wish he would die a horrible death I did
say I hate him and I actually did ask someone to help me kill him but I was
joking. You know who wasn't at this trial though?
The wife. Michelle. She never stepped foot into the courtroom and probably for the best after about two weeks of testimony, I say some
that's a little sus to me. I know we're not. It's probably not going to be
about her at all, but that's a little suspicious.
According to the law, Michelle never asked her boyfriend to go kill her
soon to be access according to the freaking law. I think the reason they go
for this because they they're not saying it's necessarily premeditated.
According to the law, she's innocent.
According to Garrett Merland, she's not.
You're gonna stink in your identity.
Identity, yeah.
So after about two weeks of testimony, the jury deliberates and after over six hours,
they return with a verdict.
Kevin Foley was found guilty of first degree murder
and he was sentenced to life behind bars.
Now as for Michelle,
she never faced any charges in John's death.
After the trial ended,
she took the three kids and moved to Georgia.
Did she get all the money?
She probably did, she probably got all the money too.
Yeah, I didn't see anything in sources about that.
Apparently no one's asked that question,
but I'm gonna assume yes.
I mean, if she has nothing to do with the murder,
his family can't come in and say, you know what I mean?
That just irks me the wrong way.
Just my opinions that something's a little off there.
There are still people who think she played a role in this.
She should be held accountable that Michelle allegedly
may have even manipulated Kevin
into doing it.
But Michelle denies this.
She says she never fueled any hostility Kevin had toward John.
Prosecution never found evidence in their investigation
to charge her with anything either,
though John did have one request before he died.
One he set aside with that money
in case his premonition came true, he wanted his attorneys
to pass along a message to JJ.
So he said, I'll take the $10,000, investigate my murder and also make sure JJ knows how
much I love him.
That's so heartbreaking.
And that is the case of John Jelenik.
That's so heartbreaking.
I mean, John didn't do anything, man.
I mean, people get divorced every day and ain't nobody killing anyone.
That's so sad.
Honestly, I don't know.
That's sad.
It's horrible.
All right, you guys, that is our case for today and we will see you next time with another
one.
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