Murder With My Husband - 278. Caught in the Digital Fence - The Murder of Egypt Covington
Episode Date: July 21, 2025In this case, Payton and Garrett dive into the case of Egypt Covington, a beloved singer and bartender with dreams bigger than her small Michigan town. But in June 2017, those dreams were shattered w...hen she was found bound and murdered inside her own home. Links: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband NEW MERCH LINK: https://mwmhshop.com Discount Codes: https://mailchi.mp/c6f48670aeac/oh-no-media-discount-codes Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/themwmh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/murderwithmyhusband/ Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@murderwithmyhusband Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327 Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7?si=f5224c9fd99542a7 Case Sources: NBCNews.com - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cell-phone-data-helped-solve-egypt-covingtons-murder-experts-say-tool-rcna144651 Oxygen.com - https://www.oxygen.com/dateline-secrets-uncovered/crime-news/shandon-groom-tim-moore-shane-evans-kill-egypt-covington DetroitNews.com - https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2023/10/05/two-men-sentenced-in-2017-slaying-of-egypt-covington/70993271007/ People.com - https://people.com/egypt-covington-2-men-sentenced-killing-8348858 Forbes.com - https://www.forbes.com/sites/larsdaniel/2024/10/08/google-to-stop-sharing-location-data-with-law-enforcement/ APNews.com - https://apnews.com/article/ohio-men-sentenced-killing-michigan-woman-535d53b2f78d0dbcfc732d1faa170eec GLGMichigan.com - https://www.glgmichigan.com/media/who-killed-egypt-covington TrueCrimeNews.com - https://truecrimenews.com/2018/04/06/who-killed-egypt-covington-family-divided-on-suspicions-of-guilt/ SoapCentral.com - https://www.soapcentral.com/shows/what-happened-egypt-covington-details-michigan-singer-s-murder-dateline-explored DavidCBrownFH.com - https://www.davidcbrownfh.com/obituaries/Egypt-Elizabeth-Covington?obId=30504503 HappyScribe.com - https://www.happyscribe.com/public/dateline-nbc/a-girl-named-egy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm Peyton Morland.
And I'm Garrett Morland.
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Think Gary you ready for your 10 seconds? Got a haircut today.
No, that's nothing crazy, but my hair's been growing
faster and faster ever since I got my hair transplant.
I didn't know what to do.
I was gonna let it keep growing out, but it's the summer.
So I kind of just kept it pretty short,
kind of like a buzz cut, a guard buzz cut.
Yeah, just keeping it short. Probably will grow it out over winter. I was thinking about how I don't understand how there's people out there who can eat
Whatever they want and they're not running to the bathroom, you know
Like I know if I'm eating fast food or something that is a little greasy. I
Will be in the bathroom. Like I just will.
And I don't understand how there's people out there
who can eat anything they want whenever they want.
And it's just another day to them.
Kudos, because I wish that was me, but it's not me.
Good old IBS, what can you do?
Do you think I have IBS?
Does everyone have IBS or no?
No.
Because like, oh, is it just that everyone's allergic
to lactose or like something like that?
What do you mean?
I don't know.
Like, do you think our food nowadays
just makes everyone's tummy upset?
Or do you think there's people out there
who genuinely only get an upset tummy like once every?
That's what I mean.
And that's kind of why I said it
because there's genuinely people who've never experienced
having the chills, being trapped in a car, driving home,
and you know when you get home, you're gonna explode.
But are they eating like us?
Yeah.
That's why I said what I said,
because there's literally people out there
who can eat Taco Bell for three days straight,
and they're like, yeah, I'm fine.
Normal poop schedule.
Put it in the comments, you guys.
I don't know if I believe that exists.
That's what I'm saying.
But if I eat Chick-fil-A or I eat Taco Bell,
it's game over for me.
Oh yeah.
Like if I'm not near a bathroom within 15 to 20 minutes,
I just give me a bucket.
I'm gonna die.
Yeah.
Like I feel like sometimes, but then I think maybe people just don't eat like me
But I'm like if you had never had the chills
Speeding home in a car like passing cramps. Yep. I don't is that just like in us. No, no
There's people who I mean there no, there's lots of people who have experienced it
But I know there's people who haven't experienced it
because even I have friends where I'll be like,
oh, my stomach's cramping, I need to get home.
They're like, ah, you'll be fine.
No, I won't be fine.
No, no, you have no idea what's about to happen.
I will not be fine.
And it's because they've never experienced it.
So to them, it's like, oh, you have a little tummy cramp.
Yeah.
I will kill you right now.
You have no idea what's about, Yeah. I will kill you right now. You have no idea what's about what's happening
in my stomach right now.
If you don't know this next feeling,
I need you to tell me.
I need you to tell me in the comments
if you just eat healthy so you don't experience it
or whatever, but if you have never had the feeling
of butthole burning, Is that like so gross?
Are we just like outing ourselves right now?
I think that-
We eat so bad.
But the thing is even when I do eat healthy,
it doesn't change it for me.
It's so true, Garrett really does it.
That's how I mean, I do have IBS.
Whatever, I'm not gonna get into it.
But it doesn't matter how I eat.
Anyways, enough of that.
Sorry if you had to sit through that and you don't want
to. Sucks for you. Um, let's get into this week's case.
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Okay, if I asked you, what is one thing
you never leave home without?
What would you say?
Probably my wallet and my phone.
Cell phone, right?
Yeah.
It's pretty remarkable, if you think about it,
that 20 to 25 years ago,
people didn't, like not everyone had a cell phone,
but now there probably is not a single person that I know who doesn't had a cell phone, but now there probably is not a single person
that I know who doesn't have a cell phone,
especially because we rely on them for so much nowadays.
Even our wallets have become sort of irrelevant
now that we can keep our IDs on our phone
and have Apple pay.
But what we often don't consider is that our cell phones
are also capable of a lot of little
secret tasks that we don't even know they're actively doing, like targeting us with ads,
keeping a log of our user and search history, and knowing exactly where we are at any given time.
Which honestly is not ideal for a modern-day criminal looking to get away with a crime,
because it turns out the days of cell phone tower pings might be behind us. Now there is a much easier
way to track exactly who is exactly where at any given time and because of
that we're solving cases that might have otherwise gone cold which is especially
useful when the perpetrators or someone the police never even suspected
in the first place.
And I wanted to start it that way
because Garrett always asks me how there are still people
getting away with crimes in today's day and age
with cameras and cell phone.
And it's getting harder, it really is.
So for today's case, we are headed to a little town
outside of Detroit, Michigan called Belleville,
where in 2017, a 27 year old woman named Jacqueline Egypt Covington who goes by Egypt,
okay, she is living and working as a bartender again in 2017, in a little town in Michigan. Now,
Egypt is actually a Belleville native
and she's lived in this idyllic little Lake town
her whole life.
And because of that, Egypt has a really strong community
around her of people who know her and love her.
For starters, she actually comes from this big blended
family of full step and half siblings that she's close to.
Her brother, DeWayne, even got her a job that she had
been working at for some time, bartending with him at a local pub that everyone in town knew and went
to, which honestly only made Egypt more popular with the locals. Egypt turned a lot of those
customers into regulars who would drop in on the nights that she worked just to honestly
hang out with her. They said that she was kind of a ray of light in their life, just
the breath of fresh air they needed after a long day. But working at the bar wasn't
the real dream Egypt had for herself. It was just a way for her to make some cash as she
pursued her goals of eventually becoming a professional singer. People actually claimed
that she stole the stage at a 2014 competition in Michigan called Country Idol, which she won,
and she also had plans to audition for The Voice on NBC and was working with a local producer to
make her own album. And because a lot of people said Egypt had that star quality,
the thing that really makes someone stand out in a crowd,
that she had this presence that was undeniable,
and honestly, she was kind of unforgettable.
And that's what drew Egypt's on again, off again boyfriend,
Curtis Meadows to her, which is why by 2017,
he has decided he is really going to commit to Egypt.
Now, Egypt had actually first met Curtis back around 2008,
when she was 20 years old and he was 28 years old.
But Curtis said it was love at first sight.
They dated for almost two years.
The first time they broke up,
they got back together for a year and a half, they broke up. Curtis said it was difficult at first sight. They dated for almost two years. The first time they broke up, they got back together for a year and a half,
they broke up.
Curtis said it was difficult
because at that point in his life,
he had a daughter, he had a nine to five job,
and Egypt mostly worked nights at the bar.
So their schedules were opposite,
but the two always gravitated back to each other.
And come 2017, were back on.
And this time they both felt like it was forever.
Egypt had gotten her own little duplex
on the outskirts of town, which she was really proud of.
Plus, Curtis's lease was coming to an end soon.
So by 2017, they were planning to take the next steps
in the relationship and he was going to move in with her.
On top of that, Egypt had just started a new job
working as a beer sales rep,
something that would help her make even more money
and prepare for her future with Curtis.
But in June of 2017,
all of these plans came to a screeching halt.
Now on the afternoon of June 22nd, Egypt and her friend Lindsay texted back and forth
about their plans for that night.
Lindsay said she was too tired to go over to Egypt's house and asked if she wanted
to come hang at hers instead.
But Egypt said she was too busy trying to clean and get the place ready for Curtis's
big move into her house with her.
A few hours later, around 10 PM, Curtis texted Egypt that he was planning to go to bed back
at his place. He said he loved her and she responded with nighty night. Now, the following
morning Curtis reached for his phone and like he did every morning, texted Egypt hello.
Now usually Egypt was
very quick to respond back with her own good morning text but that day nothing
came through. But as the day continued with no word from Egypt even after
calling and checking in on our social media, Curtis started to wonder if
something was wrong and by the time his workday was over he was a complete
nervous wreck. He figured he needed to drive to Egypt's duplex immediately to check on her.
Now as soon as he turns onto her street and sees her car still sitting in her driveway,
his heart sinks because now he knows that Egypt must be home, but she's not responding to him.
And even worse, Curtis Parks walks up to her front door
and sees that it's cracked open.
So he takes a few steps in calling Egypt's name
and her little dog, Ruby comes running out barking.
Now, Curtis says, usually Ruby is super upbeat.
She just wants to lick you when she sees you.
But that day, Ruby seemed a little distressed.
She gave him a look before running back into the kitchen. So he follows the little dog Ruby. And that's
when Curtis saw something that will be burned into his memory forever. His girlfriend, Egypt,
was lying in the fetal position on her kitchen floor. Her hands were tied behind her back. There was
blood covering the side of her head and she was not breathing. So Curtis runs out
to his truck, grabs his cell phone and dials 911 and within a matter of minutes
the local police have responded to investigate. Now once they get there
they confirm that Egypt is dead.
She had suffered a gunshot wound to her head.
But there are two things that stand out about the crime scene to police.
First, it doesn't look like the house was broken into.
There was no forced entry anywhere.
And second, it's June, and the thing that's bounding her hands behind her back
because they were tied is Christmas tree lights. They also realize Egypt's neighbors who
share the duplex with her aren't home that weekend. They're at a music festival. So there's no one who
could have heard this or witnessed it except for the dog Ruby. But it also indicates to police that maybe whoever did this
knew that the neighbors were going to be gone for the weekend. Maybe they knew their schedule and
Egypt's schedule, which to them says they don't feel like this was a stranger. Maybe Egypt told
someone her neighbors would be out of town. So one of the first people they obviously look into
is the man who made the 911 call that day,
the one who found Egypt dead, her boyfriend.
You know what's interesting?
I feel like it's something I try not to do anymore
is tell people when I'm going out of town.
That's weird, but you know, just like a little privacy.
I don't talk.
I don't, I don't think I talk to enough people
to let them know when I'm going out.
I just try not to tell people.
I know it might be a little paranoid,
but yeah, I'll be coming over to my house.
So they are looking into Curtis and it doesn't help
that people who knew Egypt and Curtis did tell police.
I mean, yeah, they've had a complicated past.
Egypt's friend, Brooke, mentions that the relationship
could be a bit volatile at times,
that there were some fights,
even in the middle of the night,
that led to Egypt knocking on Brooke's front door,
looking for somewhere to stay at two in the morning.
Though they all say they don't believe anything
ever got physical between her and Curtis,
not that they were aware of. That what's hard is sorry to interrupt again
That's what's hard is
You don't know
Any most I feel like most domestic violence people?
Around don't even know that it's happening. They don't disclose. Yeah
So when police bring Curtis in for questioning they find that he is completely cooperative with them.
He answers all of their questions, even agrees to take a polygraph test, which he passes.
So police kind of rule him out quickly as a person of interest in this case, but that
doesn't stop them from thinking this still has to be someone they believe knew Egypt.
After all, Egypt worked at a bar in town. She had a lot of
people who knew her, who might have even had some sort of close relationship with her because they
would come in and talk to her every day when they would drink and she would obviously tell them about
her life as well. So that's when they start to wonder, is there a regular at the bar who was just
a little too obsessed with her?
And that's when the police catch wind of a different kind of person that was in Egypt's life,
and that was her boss.
So turns out Egypt's married supervisor kind of was a bit smitten with her, according to people in her life.
It started by taking a real interest in her singing career and then after she won country idol in 2014
He offered to take her to Nashville for another audition there and apparently Egypt took him up on the offer
Egypt told her friend Leslie though that once they got there the two of them got into a big argument
And while she didn't say what it was about
Leslie thinks it had to do with him wanting to take things further in their relationship
after driving her, getting her secluded in Nashville
and Egypt not really wanting a part of it.
And Egypt's brother, Dewayne, knew this man too, obviously.
And he said the guy could get very heated very quickly,
that he was volatile, not someone you would wanna piss off.
But when police look into this boss,
he cooperates fully with them,
says his wife knew all about the trip to Nashville.
There was never any kind of relationship with Egypt,
which is why the boss theory also turns into a dead end.
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But when one door closes, another opens,
and that's when police stumble upon another person of interest, Egypt's ex-boyfriend,
a guy named Kenny Machalik. Now, Kenny and Egypt dated during one of the periods where she and
Curtis had broken up and were not together. And word on the street was Kenny wasn't too happy that she inevitably got back together
with Curtis, basically choosing Curtis over him.
Apparently he was really heartbroken when he learned that Curtis was going to be moving
in with Egypt.
Turns out Egypt's family still kept in touch with Kenny, would kind of give him updates
on our life because his family had been friends with her family even before they had started dating. Kenny was 10 years older than Egypt. He was
a handsome mechanic who dated quite a few women, but it seems like he saw Egypt as the
one who got away. And while Egypt saw him as more of a placeholder, the kind of guy
who would never actually settle down and give her what she wanted.
She still tried to like maintain a friendship with him when she eventually got back together
with Curtis.
They kept in touch.
She still hung out with all of his sisters.
But Curtis said recently that Kenny, her ex boyfriend, had been overstepping some of the
boundaries.
He always seemed to appear at places Egypt and Curtis were at.
Sure, Belleville was a small town, but it was getting to a at places Egypt and Curtis were at. Sure, Belleville was a small
town, but it was getting to a point where Egypt needed to say something to Kenny. And
she chose the town's annual strawberry festival that June as a place to do this. So Curtis
told police that that day Egypt pulled Kenny aside to talk to him while they were at the
festival. And while Curtis stayed out of the conversation, he could see the two of them
yelling at each other during this conversation. And it ended with Egypt storm the festival. And while Curtis stayed out of the conversation, he could see the two of them yelling at each
other during this conversation and it ended with Egypt storming off.
And while I don't know exactly what was said, I do know that five days later, Egypt was
dead.
Now, Egypt's sister, Beth, said she heard quite a bit about what went on behind closed
doors with Egypt and Kenny, and it didn't look very good for him.
She said that when Egypt wouldn't answer him, he would start calling and texting
all of her friends to see where she was.
It's a case after case.
I know.
So many dudes just can't.
Chill.
It's a bunch of losers, man.
Like honestly, a bunch of losers.
Like there's not really another way to explain it.
And then as a way of like being controlling and manipulative,
he apparently slept with some of her friends
while they were dating.
Oh, sick.
Just to get at her.
Nice.
There was a time when he got so mad at her
that he supposedly punched a wall right next to her head.
And apparently, once at a wedding
that they attended together, he shoved Egypt up
against a wall after a fight.
Oh my gosh.
And like people witnessed this.
Now the problem is Egypt never filed any reports about this alleged abuse,
so there was nothing for the police to reference in that regard.
But it seems the aggressive behavior didn't actually end when they broke up.
According to Curtis, a month before Egypt's death, Kenny showed up at his house
after Egypt had spent the night there
and Curtis saw him from the window
as Kenny got out of his truck,
peered in all of the windows of Egypt's car
like he was looking for something
and then got back in his truck and drove away.
So Curtis sees the ex-boyfriend through a window,
sees him pull up to Curtis's house,
get out, go to Egypt's car, look through all her windows,
and then get back in his truck and drive away,
having no idea that Curtis saw him do this.
And Curtis started to wonder if maybe he had put
some kind of tracker on Egypt's car,
because as I mentioned, Kenny was also kind of casually showing up places
that they were at.
And after hearing all of this,
police were wondering the same.
It appeared Kenny was stalking his ex-girlfriend
and then just five days after an explosive public argument,
Egypt was found dead in her home.
What a surprise.
Which is why nine months into this investigation,
and I know that like kind of skipped ahead rather abruptly,
but it took this long for police to rule out
and then find their next suspect.
But nine months in, Kenny is named
the first official person of interest in Egypt's case.
And to make matters worse,
when Kenny comes in for a polygraph test, he does not pass
and he doesn't have a solid alibi either.
I know it, and maybe this exists,
but I feel like it doesn't because of all of our,
I guess, privacy rights and different laws
and regulations that are out there.
It seems like, right, she dies.
It seems like any phone that has been in that area in
The last 36 hours should be pinged should be pinged instantly uploaded to a database
The cops get it like next day and I get we have to go through all these regulations and warrants
But I mean come on like it needs to be a little bit easier than this here
It's no one's privacy is being invaded as someone someone was murdered, I'd be like, ping me out baby
like I have nothing to hide and I know a lot of people disagree with that and I
think you have something to hide.
That doesn't see. That's what I was going to say is would people switch
from Verizon to Sprint if Verizon was like, oh yeah, we willingly hand over.
I'd be like, give me two Verizon
phones.
I'm all about it.
You know, I just like, cause any phones in the area of that person that just died, I
mean, even if it's within a 50 foot radius, you ping them.
Yeah.
It might be a lot of phones to go through.
You get through those in a couple of days and you know exactly what's going on.
You have better suspects. I don't know. I
I know I'm just my thought anyways. We can keep going. I mean I'm on team your side. Like I
I know it's possible. I work a lot with different just apis and I just I know it's possible. It's
just I know it's the regulations and laws that are stopping it. Oh yeah, like cell phone companies,
police will go and be like,
we're really needing this person's records
and they'll say, get a warrant.
Yeah, like they have the data.
And I do think you should get a warrant.
That's fine, I'm okay with that.
I just think-
Yeah, but you have to have probable cause to get a warrant.
So you can't just be like,
hey, give me all the cell phone data.
You have to say, I need this person's specific data
because of, we are suspicious and have probable cause because of X, Y, and Z.
Sorry everybody, all of our data is now public. Good luck. Don't kill anybody and
you're fine. Okay so he claims, ex-boyfriend Kenny claims that he was
out bar hopping with friends the night before but then he went home alone and
just watched a few shows on his iPhone before falling asleep. Kenny denies he has anything to do with Egypt's
death. He says she was like family to him, that although they did have their differences,
he would never have killed her. And there was actually one person who wholeheartedly believed
Kenny, and that was Egypt's mother, Tina.
While she knew some of the details
of their volatile relationship,
she felt in her gut that Kenny wouldn't have done this.
She said when she confronted Kenny about her daughter's death
and asked if he did it, he cried like a baby,
said, absolutely not, I loved your daughter.
And that was enough for Tina.
Although I will say, if you even have to confront someone
and say, did you kill my daughter?
Maybe there was already some things urging you to go
there. Your head even went there in the first place. But she believed that the
police were feeling pressure to name someone in this case. And Kenny just
looked the worst. So Tina suspected that Egypt's killing might have just been
random, that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time,
even though the wrong place was her own house.
Because it turns out Egypt had been feeling unsafe
living alone in that duplex for some time now.
Apparently Egypt had been aware
that her neighbors were growing and selling marijuana,
and there had been some sketchy traffic
coming and going from the place lately.
Still, pretty much every lead they pursued
in the investigation
came to a dead end. With not much to go on other than assorted past, Kenny was never
arrested or officially named a suspect in Egypt's murder. Now, the Christmas lights
they found Egypt bound in were sent to DNA analysis, but that led nowhere and honestly,
her case stalled out. For the next three years, her file sat at the local police department collecting cobwebs.
And meanwhile, Egypt's family wondered who was still out there,
responsible for killing their daughter in cold blood.
But at the same time, life moved forward for the Covington family.
Egypt's closest brother, Dewayne, started dating someone new.
And it was a woman named Lindsay Brink.
When they first got together, Dewayne didn't mention that the family had just gone through
such a traumatic loss.
As he put it, he didn't want to overwhelm his new love interest with the fact that his
sister had just been murdered.
But a few weeks into dating, the conversation came up when Lindsay asked
DeWayne who the woman was on his iPhone background. And that's when DeWayne
explained, okay that's my sister, she was just murdered. And everything kind of
started to change for Lindsay. Lindsay wasn't a detective. She was a kindergarten teacher
But she was so intrigued by D Wayne's story with his family and so frustrated to hear about how the
Investigation was being stalled that she wanted to do something to help. She was just a little true crime person at heart
So together she and D Wayne started pressuring local police to
do more in his sister's case, to look closer at the neighbors who were out of town during
the time of Egypt's death. But the local police became defensive with this pressure saying
they'd already done all they could, except Lindsay, this brand new girlfriend, she did
not think this was true. So she started an online petition. She organizes
a public protest. I think it's safe to say that Lindsay definitely had some interest
in true crime because by this time she knew exactly what to do to get a case rolling.
She was like, yep, we're going to start a petition. We're going to cause an uproar.
She began copying the state police on all of the correspondence she was having
with the local department. So she's like, Hey state, this is what's going on in this
little town. And she obviously knows that the state police had a lot more resources,
that they were more equipped to handle such a complicated and mysterious case like Egypt's.
And it took some time, but finally her efforts began to pay off. In 2020, three years after the murder, the state police took over the case and began
their own investigation into Egypt's death.
And one of the first things they do is re-examine the evidence against Kenny.
And what they find is, while the local police put all of their eggs in Kenny's basket, the state
police were pretty confident he wasn't involved. His alibi about watching TV on
his phone that night checked out thanks to data confirmation. The GPS on his
truck also showed that it remained home the entire night of the murder, which is
when they wiped the slate clean and were like, hey, we're just going to go in a completely different
direction. And they used a trick called geo-fencing,
which Garrett is about to be very happy and intrigued about.
So historically the way to track someone's cell phone data
location is by what phone towers it pings when it's being used.
Which there are newer methods now. And there's honestly a lot of faults in that
technique. The biggest being it gives you a really wide radius for where that
person could have been at the time. But geo-fencing, which is more current, is a
lot more accurate. Basically if someone has their location history turned on,
which most people do because of their apps.
Don't turn it off, keep it on.
There's a way to create an, well,
there's a lot of apps that won't let you,
unless you like, won't let you use it.
Unless you have it on.
I mean, most of us even use like, find my-
Yep, devices and friends.
Buy my friends, buy my iPhone, all that, yeah.
So there's a way to create an invisible fence
around an area that shows what phones came inside those boundaries at any given time, which is exactly what Garrett was talking about.
Essentially, it gives a much more accurate reading on when and where a cell phone is.
And apparently they don't even need to be looking for any specific phone in particular, like Garrett said.
It will show all cell phones
that come and went from the area during that time. I'm honestly really impressed
that you knew that this was a thing. Oh yeah I know a hundred percent. Most people would be
like well look at the person's cell phone and you were like no just look at
all the cell phones in the area. Look at all the pings in the area and I'm
surprised it's not used more I'm sure I'm sure it's gonna be used more I just
know there is different rules around it,
which is probably why.
The state police obviously are going to have more poll
to do this. Correct. Yeah.
They're like, we're going to try to look at all the cell phones
that were in the area during this time.
And they retroactively created a geo fence for Egypt's home
on the night of the murder.
And with the help of Google and their massive internal
database called sensor vault, they get a hit. So they are using their resources and going about it
in a way that I like this is great. So they do this, they have an internal database to do this.
And there was one phone that wasn't Egypt's in that boundary on the night in question. So it's not like they really had a big pool.
It's a small town and she kind of lives
on the outskirts of it.
And it came from a number in Toledo, Ohio.
And when they run this number,
they find that it belongs to a man named Shandon Groom.
And you're probably like, why can't every case just do this?
And like Garrett said earlier, it's just, you got to jump through a lot of holes
and to do this and not every state is willing to, but every case starting now
should be doing this. I mean, here's the thing though. This is what's risky.
If you use this to find the person and then they have a good lawyer who,
depending on the state can go to trial and be like, you violated his privacy.
You ruined the case.
I think that I know I've said a lot about this.
I just think that when you buy a phone, it should be like, hey, look, if you want the
opportunity to communicate with others and have all the benefits that a phone does, this
is part of the agreement. Now I do want to mention that the local police had attempted does, this is part of the agreement, you know?
Now, I do want to mention that the local police
had attempted to do this geofencing thing,
but they were focused on connecting Kenny to it.
And so they weren't actually looking
at the entire analysis as a whole,
but the state police are.
And when they finally get that new person of interest,
Shandon Groom, they learn there's actually a lot more
evidence pointing in Shandon's direction than in Kenny's. For example, there's some surveillance
video that was taken from a gas station right near Egypt's duplex on the night of her murder,
and it shows a blue truck with an Ohio license plate passing by that night. And when police
zoom in on the plate numbers and run them through the system,
it's a match for Shandon's car. So not only is his phone there,
his truck is also seen on surveillance footage. Here's the thing.
He honestly seems to have zero personal connection to Egypt Covington.
They appear to be strangers,
but they know this is a lead that they need to obviously keep pursuing. So they revisit those Christmas lights that Egypt was bound with and
they resend them out for DNA analysis, especially since technology has
improved a little bit in the last three years. I mean, you have to admit from
2017 to 2020, oh, big change crime DNA took a major leap and this time they
get a hit, but it's for someone else.
It's for someone else.
So they rerun the DNA and it doesn't match Shandon,
but they do get the hit.
It's a man with a criminal record named Tim Moore,
who also happens to be from Ohio.
So it's a different man,
but he is somehow connected back to Ohio
where Shandon is from. Now, Ohio is a huge place, but they realize that Tim Moore
happened to have Shandon Groom's phone number saved in his contacts. So once the
state police get the ball rolling, things start to unravel pretty fast because
they quickly start to find the thread that connects these two
men.
And this thread's name is Shane Evans.
So we're adding a third man into this.
So using Tim Moore's cell phone data, they find that Shandon and Tim were at Shane Evans'
home in the hours before Egypt's murder. In fact, Tim and Shane are half brothers
and Shane lives just down the street from Egypt.
So this now puts them in connection to Egypt.
Also, it would have known
that the neighbors were out of town.
Plus, Shane worked for the landscaping company
that cut her grass.
He'd actually been at her house earlier the day of the murder, mowing her lawn. Oh my gosh. Which is how Shane knew the neighbors
at the duplex were out of town. And he was well aware that they were running a medical marijuana
business out of their home. So once police brought Shane Evans in for questioning, he actually
confessed pretty quickly to exactly what
and how things went down on the night Egypt Covington was killed. Shane says he
told his half-brother Tim and their friend Shandon about his neighbors who
had gone out of town and the two of them came up with an idea to rob the home and
steal all of the marijuana inside so they could sell it for a profit. They
asked Shane if he would
drive ahead of them, point out which property it was, and then the two of them would stop,
go in and steal the marijuana. So Shane does what he's told. He drives ahead of them, points
at the duplex, but they think he's pointing at Egypt's house.
No, you're lying. You're telling me this was an accident. I'm not an accident, but it's, no way.
Not the vacant side of the duplex.
But why did they kill her?
So Shane keeps driving,
because he's connected to this place.
And the two who aren't really connected.
Oh, I'm so sick.
Get out of the car,
and they go to the left side of the duplex, not the right.
And it seems like Egypt might have had her front door unlocked at the time because they walk right in.
And when they walk in, they don't find an empty house with marijuana.
They find Egypt standing in her kitchen.
So out of panic, Tim points the gun at her, still thinking this is the right house.
They're like, this still has to be the right house, right?
Someone just has to be staying here.
So one holds her at gunpoint and the other one goes searching the place and they don't
find any marijuana.
So he comes back and the two of them have kind of both searched the place.
And when they look back at Egypt, they realize she's using her phone.
So now they're afraid she's exposing them.
They tie her up with Christmas lights, though I'm not sure where they get them from.
They take her phone, they have her lay down on the floor, they place a pillow over her head,
and then Tim fires a gunshot through her head.
What the actual freak?
One shot that takes her life.
Now, Shane said he obviously didn't know about the murder at the time,
that this wasn't the plan he had been told.
The only indication things went sideways was when Tim sent him a text later that night that said,
wrong door. Shane says it wasn't until days later when he heard about Egypt's story on the news that he realized the two of them must have murdered someone that night.
What is wrong with people?
But you have to wonder, it would have been so easy
for these guys to just turn around and leave
and not kill her.
So why would you go to such extremes
when you were just attempting a robbery in the first place?
The only reason police could fathom
was that Tim Moore was actually out on parole.
And in his last crime, it was a female witness
who had identified him and sent him to prison. So maybe as a way of trying to avoid the same situation, he just killed this witness.
Frankly, if we didn't have the technology we do today, he might've gotten away with it.
Maybe one of the most frustrating parts of all of this was that the state police solved this case
and all three men were arrested just three months after
looking into the case and local police had sat on all of this evidence and let it run
cold for three years.
Cause like I said, they were able to geofence, but they were so focused on Kenny.
They didn't look at the other cell phones.
In the end, both Shandon groom and Tim Moore were charged with first degree murder, felony
murder and first degree home invasion.
Shane Evans was charged with felony murder and first degree home invasion.
All three ended up making deals with the prosecutor's office pleading guilty to second-degree murder.
So 34 year old Shane Evans got 15 to 25 years in prison,
37 year old Tim Moore got 20 to 55 years in prison, and 30-year-old
Shandon Groom got 17 to 26 years in prison. But you have to wonder, would all three of these men
still be out there walking free if it had not been for their cell phone data? It's definitely
something that saved the case, but it also has raised issues about privacy concerns that Google has actually since made changes on changes that aren't good
for law enforcement.
Around October of 2024, there were talks of Google migrating user data from the
sensor vault databases back to the user's devices, which would make it no
longer possible for Google to search and offer up users location data to law enforcement regardless of a warrant.
I don't, it's fine if you guys disagree with me. I just think you're a murderer.
I just, that's not true, but I just, I... Well, here's the thing. I don't like that.
Google's like, hey, we're taking the, we're taking the technology away to even run this.
So even if you come to us with a warrant,
we're not going to be able to give it to you.
We're giving the rights back to the people.
So I'm not sure if all of this has gone into effect yet.
Well, I'm pretty sure that Apple still has a way to do this.
It definitely begs some questions
about how much information law enforcement should have access
to, especially when it comes to solving crimes.
But in the case of Egypt Covington,
we can see how information like this can be beneficial.
Technology is going to keep advancing.
We are not going to all of a sudden backtrack from here and it will keep
helping us solve crimes, privacy arguments or not.
What we can't forget is the victims
at the center of these cases,
the families who want answers
surrounding their loved one's death.
Imagine how frustrating it would be
to have your daughter murdered
and then have police come to you and be like,
well, Google just doesn't wanna give us the information.
How do you feel in that situation?
It's hard because I promise if the
an executive at Google, one of their kids was murdered, they would use it. They would 100% want it to be used. So I mean, technology can solve crimes at a faster pace than we've ever
been able to before. How would they have ever even connected these men without this technology?
Yeah. The question is, how do we do this in an ethical and meaningful way when it comes
to right freedom and privacy for people? But I think like the frustrating part of
this entire case is the reason they even had to use technology was because these
men had no connection to her. Yeah, she was literally a completely random
person who, surprisingly, her mom ended up up correct was in the wrong place
at the wrong time, even though the wrong place was her own house. So sad, it's
so freaking frustrating to me when we cover a case where someone's life is
brutally taken for absolutely no reason. Like I know that there's never a good
reason to commit murder, but Egypt literally was in the wrong house.
Yeah.
And it's devastating.
That is the case of Egypt Covington
and how they used technology to solve her murder.
But we're kind of up in the air
about if this type of technology
is gonna be used in the future.
So we will keep you updated on that.
But yeah, that is our episode for this week,
and we will see you next time with another one.
I love it.
And I hate it.
Goodbye.