Murder With My Husband - 324. The Morehouse Student Murder - The Murder of Carlnell Walker

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

On this episode, Payton and Garrett explore the murder of Carlnell Walker, a promising Morehouse College student with big dreams for the future. When a welfare check uncovers a disturbing scene, investigators begin unraveling the events that led to his tragic death. Links: Netflix Video Every Monday @11am PST, 12pm MST, 2pm EST 1pm CST https://www.netflix.com/murderwithmyhusband  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband NEW MERCH LINK: https://mwmhshop.com Discount Codes: https://mailchi.mp/c6f48670aeac/oh-no-media-discount-codes Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/themwmh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/murderwithmyhusband/ Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@murderwithmyhusband Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327 Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7?si=f5224c9fd99542a7 Case Sources:EastBayTimes.com - https://www.eastbaytimes.com/obituaries/memoriam-carlnell-walker/ SFGate.com - https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Arrests-in-torture-slaying-of-college-student-2515641.php Legacy.com - https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/carlnell-walker-obituary?pid=18529575 Oxygen.com - https://www.oxygen.com/the-real-murders-of-atlanta/crime-news/keith-roberts-ringleader-behind-torture-murder-of-carlnell Caselaw.Findlaw.com - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ga-supreme-court/1694566.html WISTV.com - https://www.wistv.com/story/5135551/morehouse-student-found-dead-in-car-trunk/ UPI.com - https://www.upi.com/Top_News/2006/07/22/4th-suspect-sought-in-Morehouse-slaying/52631153610371/ BlackCollegeWire.com - https://blackcollegewire.org/news/060726_morehouse-walker/ TheEduledger.com - https://www.theeduledger.com/home/article/15088959/former-morehouse-student-gets-life-in-torture-killing-case BET.com - https://www.bet.com/article/xuqij1/former-morehouse-student-gets-life-in-prison MyLifeOfCrime.com - https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/tag/carlnell-walker/ HenryHerald.com - https://www.henryherald.com/news/man-sentenced-in-morehouse-student-s-torture-murder-gets-two/article_ef2e376a-cf99-54b7-8a91-d10dc940accb.html Law.Justia.com - https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/2015/s14a1430.html Atlanta Magazine - https://books.google.com/books?id=sg4AAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=carlnell+walker+obituary&source=bl&ots=FlYdgj1piX&sig=WQm9R7WdCm4CyA5Lse6elGpCUjw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd5tnqsZHTAhUpilQKHX4PDjkQ6AEIQzAH#v=onepage&q=carlnell%20walker%20obituary&f=false The Real Murders of Atlanta on Peacock.com - https://www.peacocktv.com/watch/playback/vod/_/99d0061c-9f02-3093-819d-c397049a8106 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Nothing. I think we're ready to get in your 10 seconds. Peyton and I were talking about this the other day. And it's something I've, how do I say this? Not that I've been into, but I think about like, I love zombie apocalypse movies. I love the end of the world movies. I don't know. I just, I love those type of movies.

I don't know why. Maybe I'm crazy. But let's say we had an EMP go off. All the electricity went off everywhere. Just our, the electrical system in the U.S. is just shot, like our electrical grids down. Like, how long before people stop using cash to pay for things and we start bartering? Like, how long does cash and digital payments or cash, how long is it still looked as a commodity,

like something we want? You know what I'm saying? So Peyton and I talked about this day the day for a second because I was like, I think like a week or so when people were just over it and like you go to like cigarettes. that's alcohol, drugs, medicine, like guns, like all that stuff starts becoming the commodities instead of, like I think pretty quickly people stop using cash. Because I've read a couple books on this and it's surprising. I mean, it's not surprising to me, but maybe it's surprising to you guys, how fast a society

would become hostile. And maybe not, but there's a lot of people that would like when people start fighting for their lives or their families or their loved ones, I just think it turns hostile so quick, which is unfortunate. But I've, yeah. I've like had this sudden realization lately that modern day, like currently, we live in a very different world than majority of history has lived in. It would just revert back to history.

Like we would almost just rewind, right, to earlier times. Yeah, I mean, I guess depending where you're, where you are at in. The world. Yes, I would say we are a more civilized. Yeah, I'm obviously talking about like our current civilizations, but I also think. Depending where you're at, I would say we are the most civilized we've ever been. And I think it continues to get better to an extent each year. There's lots of different things you can say about that. But yes, I agree.

And I think pretty quickly if things were to go south and go wrong, we would like, well, just your natural human tendencies take over. And I think it would get, I just think it would get. I just think it would get crazy so fast. We're kind of rambling, but that's my 10 seconds. That's a very deep 10 seconds. This has been a thought that has been plaguing me lately, and then you just came out and we're like... Yeah.

So if you guys have any thoughts on it, feel free to leave it in the comments. Yeah, that's all I got. Anyways, on that note, on that deep thought of EMPs and society collapsing, let's hop into this week's episode. Our sources for this episode are East Baytimes.com, Sfgate.com. legacy.com, oxygen.com, caselaw. dot fine law.com, W-I-S-TV.com, UPI.com, Blackcollegewire.com, the edu-ledger.com, B-E-T.com, My Life of Crime.com, Henry Herald.com, law.com,

Law.justia.com, Atlanta magazine, and the real murders of Atlanta on Peacock. There are a lot of people in this world who work really hard to break this cycle of the past, whether that's getting out of a tough neighborhood, escaping age-old stereotypes, breaking generational trauma. It's not an easy thing to do, but everyone deserves a bright future, regardless of where they came from or what has happened before. And moving forward means trusting the path you are on and trusting those around you to help support you along the way. And that was Carnell Walker. He was a focused, driven, 23-year-old college student determined to succeed in life. He created his own opportunities. He saw positivity even in the negative. But not everyone around Carnell was rooting for his future.

Some were actually planning to rob him of it, even if that meant taking his life along the way. So today we are headed to Atlanta, Georgia, to meet 23-year-old Carnell Walker. A miracle child, as his mother, Peggy described him, and honestly in more ways than one. Peggy said doctors originally told her she couldn't have children. And then along came Carnell. He was born on January 13, 1983. He had actually grown up in Richmond, California. This was a tougher neighborhood, about a half-hour drive right over the bay from San Francisco.

Now, growing up, Carnell was always energetic. According to his cousin, he was the kind of person who could turn any dull situation into a good time. type person you always wanted around when you were filling down. And he also had that quality where you just knew he was going to be successful at whatever he set his mind to. He had, as some people like to call it, the sauce, that charisma and appeal. Plus, he was extremely determined. For example, when Carnell was a junior in high school, he told his mom out of the blue that

he wanted to join the tennis team. Now, usually high school sports are something you work your way up to after years of practice, but Carnell didn't even need that. He joined the team that year and was a natural at it, becoming the top tennis player in Contra Costa County. But junior year also had its downsides for Carnell, too. He was kicked out of high school for drug possession, and he later spent some time in juvenile detention. And when he violated his parole, a judge actually sent him to Byron Boy's ranch.

This was a youth rehab facility and he was sent there for six months in high school. But Carnell knew he wanted to turn things around. He worked hard. He completed the program early and went on to graduate high school with honors in 2001. He then took the year after graduation off to first. focus on himself and really figure out what he wanted to do with adulthood, which he eventually realized was music and songwriting. By the following summer, Carnell told his family he was ready for college. He tried out two different schools, one in Tennessee and one in North Carolina,

before he set the bar even higher for himself. He decided he wanted to transfer to Morehouse College in Atlanta, and he got accepted there on a tennis scholarship. Now, finally, in the fall of 2004, now 21-year-old Carnell arrived in Georgia, ready to attend the prestigious, historically all-male Black College. Now, I say that because Morehouse is nicknamed the Black Harvard. It's known for shaping important icons like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., director Spike Lee, and actor Samuel L. Jackson. It's actually been around for nearly 160 years now. So becoming what's called a Morehouse man was something Carnell and a lot of other young men dreamed of. And with its great reputation for academics, it set Cornell up for a bright

future and plenty of opportunities. But Morehouse also sat within its own little bubble in the the middle of downtown Atlanta, which back in the mid-2000s was a city on the rise. A lot of students were flocking to the area because there were so many other historically black colleges and universities there. But Atlanta itself was still dealing with a notably higher crime rate compared to the rest of the country. This didn't deter Carnell though and while he lived alone in an off-campus house, he felt confident that he could handle this new journey at this college. So Carnell kept his site set on his studies, majoring in business administration, but ultimately he did want to produce music, rap, and hip-hop to be specific.

He even set up his own record label called Triple Gold Mine Records, and he went by the nickname C-Money. and posted on MySpace about how he was looking. MySpace. Let's go. Early 2000s. That's a throwback. About how he was looking for fresh new talent to basically produce. MySpace was awesome. I never had it.

I was a little too young. I had it for a little bit. I thought it was cool. But, I mean, it's also been so long. So I don't know. But Carnell was also incredibly focused on keeping his life on track since he had had those slip ups in high school. And to do that, he made sure that he stayed connected with his religion and a local church in Atlanta.

Now, his mom, Peggy, actually he claims that she found this surprising at first. Carnell didn't go to church much back when he lived home in California. But she was excited to hear that he had found this community near school. Peggy said she could hear the excitement in his voice after he had joined this church. and how he just spoke about it with such passion and high regard. It seemed like it was really bringing Carnell peace, especially when he had an unexpected accident in March of 2006. Okay.

Now, I wasn't able to find too many details on this, but I know Carnell was in a pretty significant car crash just outside of Atlanta. He was okay, I believe. There was no terrible injuries for him. from what I found, and Carnell was told that because the other driver was at fault, he might be getting anywhere from a few thousand to $50,000 in insurance payouts for the damage from this crash. It was something that he actually began banking on when he made his trip back home to

visit his family in May of that year, 2006. He told them all about how he was waiting for the money to arrive. And though it was looking closer to just a few thousand dollars, it was still a lot for a young college student. Yeah. Maybe because of that, Carnell was really in good spirits during that trip home. I remember in college, I'd save a box of pizza for like the whole week. I know.

Like, this is my food. I know. Anyways. So on this trip home, he gets to spend Mother's Day with Peggy. He went to a cousin's wedding. And then he returned back to his off-campus housing. Atlanta around the first week of June. And around mid-month, he called his grandmother for a long overdue chat. And during this phone call, she said Carnell seemed like his same old usual self.

They talked about his upcoming semester at Morehouse, where he'd be going into his junior year, according to most sources. And he also mentioned how he'd be sending her some money soon to pass on to his 10-year-old cousin. And then after this phone call with his grandma, two weeks go by. Okay, July rolls around. And on the 8th, Peggy gets a call from one of Carnell's neighbors saying she hadn't heard from him in a few days. So she was now reaching out to his mom to see if he's okay. And Peggy tells a neighbor, well, I haven't spoken to him recently either. They weren't necessarily a family that chats every day. So it wasn't unusual for her to go a week or so without hearing from her son. But this specific day when the neighbor calls also happens to be Peggy's birthday. And so she does

find it alarming that she hasn't heard from her son, Carnell, yet. So this is when Peggy decides to call the Clayton County police department and ask, hey, can you stop by my son's home in Atlanta for a welfare check? So after this, an officer goes to his rented home where Carnell, remember, lives by himself. And they find that the front door is locked. So they go around the back and the back door to his house is wide open. Okay. Now, as the officer steps inside, she sees there's actually quite a bit of blood. in the kitchen that's leading towards the living room.

And I imagine if you're a cop doing a welfare check and the first thing you see when you open the door is blood leading into a different room, you're immediately like, okay, this welfare check was warranted. We've got something going on here. It's just a crazy. It's some of these professions out there just, I think you get, and maybe not, I'm not in these professions, but I would assume after of, while of doing something over and over.

Like being a, oh my gosh, what's it called? Someone who inspects people when they're dead. What's that called? A mortician. A mortician? Like, I guess you get used to it after a while. Yeah. I'm just seeing that many dead bodies.

But as someone knew, I'm sure it's just like, whoa. Well, also, I would hope that most welfare checks don't end up bleeding with blood. You know what I mean? And so I'm sure it's still alarming. Yeah. Like, just happens. The cop also notices that there is stuff everywhere,

as if someone has rummaged through this place. We are talking tables turned over, couch cushions on the floor, drawers were pulled out, the panel leading to the attic was out of place. It was clear immediately that there had been some sort of struggle that had happened here. the blood, number one, but there were also bloody handprints on the wall, as well as drag marks around the house that implied someone or something had been pulled. And then there's a bunch of items in the middle of the living room floor piled together next to an empty bottle of lamp oil, almost like someone had like made this pile and then was planning

to set it on fire using the oil. and among them were these pieces of hair. Like there was hair in this pile, dreadlocks, to be specific. Now, Interesting. Obviously, you've probably put two and two together, but Carnell had redlocks. And they also, nearby is a pair of scissors

that had seemingly been used to cut the dreadlocks. Oh, I don't like this. This already sounds like some, like he had been tortured. Right. Disreed, like, it's just not. Yeah, I already just know. Uh-uh. Yeah.

But the thing that is most concerning is there is a terrible smell of decay lingering around the house. And that's when the cops know, okay, it is time to call for backup. And as soon as the other officers arrive, they kind of follow the smell into the garage. And inside of the garage, there's Carnell's Oldsmobile. And the trunk is cracked open ever so slightly. I'm sure the officers are like, please, please don't. Like, this is the last thing they want to see.

But inside his own trunk is 23-year-old Cardinal. God. He has been tied up and gagged with a computer cord, TV cables, and electrical tape. Again, his hair has been cut in sections. He has been beaten and stabbed. They noticed he's missing some of it. of his teeth. Oh my gosh.

And from the level of decomposition, detectives actually believe he's been dead for several days, if not weeks, by this point. Why? Like, what? Yeah. So. No, just why? Like, what's going on?

So it's around 1 p.m. Peggy's time when she finally gets a call back from the police in Atlanta. And you can imagine, like, she's called, said, hey, can you just do this welfare check? It's my birthday. He hasn't called me. What she's going to hear on the other end of this call when they finally call her back to report in about that welfare check, like I can't even imagine the devastation. Yeah, I just, I can't imagine being a parent or a loved one and having to just go through that trauma in just awful situation. Like, truly, I can't imagine it.

Obviously, the news they delivered a Peggy on her 50th birthday is something no one ever deserves to hear. her son, her miracle child, has been found dead during that welfare check. And it looks like it was the result of a heartbreaking and gruesome homicide. All right, you guys, I don't know about you, but organizing finances is incredibly overwhelming for me. I hate it. I usually just try to leave it up to Garrett, but I do try to do my best to stay informed and involved. and that is where Rocket Money steps in because Rocket Money has made it easy for me to follow our finances, organize them, and then even also be involved and help.

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Old Navy's drapey denim wide leg. Now, knowing they obviously have a murder scene on their hands, police cordoned off the area and begin searching for more clues inside Carnell's home. And all throughout the house, they find bloody shoe prints. When they compare them to all of the shoes found inside Carnell's place, there isn't a match. So immediately police are like, hey, this must belong to the killer. Now, in the laundry room, they also discover one of the weapons used on Carnell. it was a claw hammer with blood on the handle and the head. But the blood patterns in the house suggest there might have actually been more than one person committing this crime.

So police collect a lot of DNA samples and fingerprints. They photograph the bloody shoe prints. Basically, they collect anything with blood on it. Honestly, it's a gold mine for potential evidence since so many of Carnell's things have been moving. around and gone through, but testing this much evidence is going to take time. So if they want answers right now, they're going to have to try to turn to eyewitnesses. And unfortunately, those are a little harder to come by. After canvassing the area, none of Carnell's neighbors reported seeing anything of note. And remember, they don't even know the exact day, maybe even

week that this happened. Carnell lived alone and in a cul-de-sac, so there weren't many, like, random people passing by. When they speak with Peggy, she's like, listen, Carnell was not involved with drugs or gangs. The only time he had been in trouble with the law was that one event back in high school. He hadn't done anything like it since. So next, detectives speak with one of Carnell's mentors. A Morehouse alumnus named Myron Johnson, who said, he actually had done. He actually had been a bit worried about Carnell lately ever since he'd befriended and started, quote, hanging around with the wrong crowd. So this is what his mentor tells police. And this made sense to the police because it did seem like Carnell may have known his attackers. There didn't appear to be evidence of

forced entry and whoever was in there was looking for something specific. So they had to have known something about Carnell's life. Now, when the medical examiner does, does Carnell's autopsy, he determines that Carnell has been dead for two to three weeks before being discovered. That's a long time. He found extensive stab wounds on Carnell's hands and thighs. Also, it's going to make it even harder to find out who did this. He showed multiple signs of blunt force trauma, likely from a hammer. But none of those injuries actually resulted in his cause of death.

that was from hyperthermia, aka heat stroke. So that means Carnell was definitely beaten, stabbed, but alive. Oh, gosh. When they placed him inside his trunk. Okay. But because it was such a hot summer day and the humidity was so high, not to mention the position of his body was probably made it difficult for him to breathe and get more oxygen. But just that discovery alone is heartbring.

At least investigators feel like they have a lot of leads to work off of in this homicide. And they start with one of the more obvious things they found in Carnell's driveway. It was a black BMW that didn't belong to Carnell, but instead belonged to his landlord, a guy named Terry Alexander. Now, Terry, his landlord, was someone that Carnell was known to not get along with, which means Mr. Alexander is one of the first people of interest in this case. And when police first speak to Terry, he tells them that he lives on the property across the street from the one he'd rented to Carnell. And he sometimes parks his car in Carnell's driveway since there's space.

And when they tell him, okay, well, we found Carnell dead inside the garage and he's been there for a while, Terry seems more like annoyed than upset that there's a dead body on his property he's going to have to deal with. Police are like, okay, lack of empathy. Like this is a red flag. But Terry also told the detectives he didn't have a lot of interaction with Carnell. They mostly communicated through notes, which he does admit were often contentious because Terry said Carnell wasn't exactly the best tenant. Apparently Carnell had some issues with respecting the process. He had done some damage to the unit.

He'd gotten at least one threat for eviction. So knowing about the tension between the two, detectives bring Terry in for more formal questioning. And they ask him when the last time he saw Carnell was. And he claimed it was back on June 19th. This was 19 days before Carnell's body was found. And sometime between June 19th and July 8th, Terry went over to Carnells to give him another letter saying,

hey, you're overdue on rent. He's annoyed. And Terry says Carnell wasn't home at the time. So he let himself in and put the letter on the couch. Now, I need to be clear. It's possible that by this point, Carnell was already dead and in the trunk of his car. So the house would have been in complete disarray when the landlord let himself in to leave the note.

Okay. Though detectives can't be certain. If it was before after Carnell's death, they still don't really have a concrete timeline. If it was after, you would think Terry would have noticed the same things police did when they went inside on July 8th. I mean, he's basically entering a crime scene. So either way, the timing is suspicious. So they end up collecting the landlord's shoes to run them against the bloody ones that were found at the crime scene. And when the tests come back, it ends up ruling Terry out.

Seems the shoe prints don't even match his size. So he's kind of let off the hook, which is when the police pivot. And this time, they take a look at Carnell's cell phone records prior to his death. And they find that Carnell's last call was actually at 2 a.m. on June 16th. It was made to a friend named Vincstra Dillard. And when police speak with her, she tells them that the last time she says, saw Carnell was two days later. So now June 18th.

So now we know he was at least alive until June 18th. But when they're talking to her, she's also hysterical. She tells police there's something she needs to get off her chest because she actually thinks she knows who killed her friend, Carnell. Which is, okay, if he needed to get it off your chest that bad, you would have called the cops earlier. So, I don't know. A little weird.

Vincentstra tells the police this story. She's like, listen. I had known Carnell for about three and a half years. We were pretty close, the type that kind of looked out for each other. So when Carnell got a part-time job with a cleaning service, he called her to ask if she would be interested in working for them too. Maybe they could just like do this on the side, have a little fun, make a bit of extra cash. And Vincentstra says she's in.

So Carnell introduces her to a guy named Ari Baum. Now, one of their first jobs, at least together, is clean. cleaning Ari's friend's parents' house. So they go, they show up to this house for this cleaning job. It is a big three-story place. And Carnell and Vincentstra spend the whole time busting their butts to get this place sparkling clean. But afterwards, something strange happens. Vincentstra gets a call from Ari, the guy she'd been introduced to, asking if she had heard what happened.

And then he tells her, your friend Carnell stole $2,000 worth of stuff from my friend's parents. home. Okay. Now, Vincentstra thinks this is super weird because not only has she known Carnell for years and has never known him to be a thief, she was in the house with him the whole time. And then things get stranger. Ari tells her, he spoke to Carnell and he says he's going to pay it all back. So Vincentstra's like, okay, why are you calling me? What's the problem? And Ari says, well, I don't want to get the police involved, but I have to do something to get him back. Like, he can't just steal. And that's when he starts getting angrier and angrier.

Ari begins yelling that Carnell messed everything up and that, quote, I'm going to kill him. I want him dead. In fact, he tells her several times on this phone call that Carnell was a dead man. And he mentions to her he's going to cut off his dreads. Yeah, there's something else going on, obviously. So, Vincentstra tells police, I'm so sorry. I regret not coming to you just immediately after this conversation when this man

was threatening my friend's life. And she's like, I am so positive that Ari was the one who killed Carnell. So the police think, okay, maybe this is the lead we've been waiting for. They get the address to Ari's business, which also happens to be where he lives. They find him. They bring him in for questioning. But Ari seems completely baffled. He says, I don't know anything about a murder.

Detectives aren't buying it. I think I know whom I have done it. They impound his Mustang. Who? I think the friend's lying and she's involved, or they're involved somehow. Vincentstra? Correct. Interesting. Maybe not, then, maybe not.

They impound his Mustang. They get his fingerprints and confiscate his shoes. But the one thing they can't really do in this case is check an alibi because there's still such a vast window of time during which the crime could have been committed. So it takes a little while, but eventually the CSI text do come back and say, hey, are. Ari's not a match for those shoe prints either. Not him. He doesn't match the fingerprints that were found on Carnell's car. So is it just a coincidence that someone else had beef with and spoke about killing Carnell around the same time he was actually murdered?

No, I think the friend might have been lying. So they let Ari walk, but things become a bit clearer a few days later. After detectives hold a press conference asking for help from the community. Now, I'm going to back up a second, back to the crime scene, because there was one big thing that police did take note of I haven't mentioned, and that was a letter. It was not the one from his landlord Terry, but it was a letter from his car insurance provider about a recent claim. So this is going to come full circle when a few days after calling for help from the public,

the police get a phone call. It's from an attorney who apparently had been held. helping Carnell with his settlement from that really bad car accident. But he says Carnell hadn't received a dime of this settlement yet. He was told he would be getting about three grand back here pretty soon. Oh, now I think I know what happened. And that's when police start to realize. Carnell had brought this up to a few different people.

Like he had mentioned some of his friends around campus, yeah, I got in this really bad car accident. I'm actually going to get money back thousands of dollars. And shortly after zeroing in on the insurance letter, on July 18th, detectives receive another call. And this time, it was from the Morehouse College campus police. And they say, hey, we have someone with us. It's a cafeteria worker at the school who claims they know someone who apparently witnessed car. Carnell's murder. So police are like, okay, let's sit down with this person.

They sit down with that worker later that day, and they get that witness's name. It was a 20-year-old Morehouse student named Braylon Garland. Now, Braylon had started at Morehouse the same year as Carnell. They were both from California originally, though they didn't know each other back home, from what I can tell. Braylon was from Lancaster. This is over 350 miles away from Carnell's hometown in Richmond. Braylon was the son of a police officer and a teacher. He was on the track team.

He did well in school. He never had any run-ins with the law. But things changed for him once he got to Morehouse. Apparently, he goes to college. He tries to reinvent himself. He talks about previously being in a gang. He claims he was actually from Compton, not, Lancaster, he starts hanging out with a different crowd than he had in the past. But when he got in front

of the police the following day to be like, hey, we heard like you've been opening your mouth and talking about this murder, possibly witnessing it, that tough persona he's tried to put on at college, it kind of falls away. Brayland's like, no, no, no, I'm afraid for my life. I'm willing to talk just so I can kind of put this behind me. And here's what he tells police. On the night of the murder, he woke up to his phone ringing. It was his friend, 21-year-old, Miles Allen. This is another Morehouse student who said he needed a ride. So now we just have some of the college kids. Now, Miles tells Braylin, he had run into Carnell earlier, and they were now going over to his house to smoke marijuana, and that he was with two other people as well, 22-year-old Moorehouse

student Keith Roberts and another he knew only as Rahim. So he's basically getting invited to this little shindig at Carnell's house with a bunch of either current or past students from Morehouse. No, I get it. I'm just so if the friend wasn't involved, like, if it's just random people, this is crazy. So we have Braylon, his friend Miles, who knows Carnell. So the three of them at Carnell's home with Keith. and Rahim. So five guys at the house. Now, Brailin and Miles obviously get together and they go to

Carnell's home. They knock on the door. They're there to just, you know, hang out, smoke marijuana, but according to him, there's no answer. So Miles picks Carnell's lock with a credit card. And that's when Braylin said he could just tell something was off. They go inside. They wait for Carnell, who came home a short while later. And according to Braylon, the second Carnell walked through his door, Miles knocked him unconscious. Now Braylon is like, I had no idea any of this was happening. I thought we were just going with five dudes to smoke marijuana, but then we end up breaking into this guy's home. He comes home and now my other friend is knocking him unconscious. He says they tied him up, said they were going to interrogate him until he told them where the money was from his settlements.

Okay. They had heard Carnell talking about this huge payout, it had gone around campus. They figured the money was probably somewhere in his house. Now, of course, according to Raylon, Carnell's insisting at this point, like, no, I haven't been paid yet. Like, I don't even have the money. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, and instead of believing him, we just interrogated him for the next eight hours. Interrogated is a crazy word to use instead of tortured and killed.

For eight hours, my June. That's insane. He says we cut off his hair. Again, like Garrett just said, torture. Yeah. He cut off his hair. They cut off his hair. They beat him with a hammer.

Oh my gosh. I can't. And as Carnell was basically begging for his life, they turn his house upside down. They keep up this torture. And as the sun started to rise, they bound and gagged Carnell, doused him in flammable liquid,

and stuffed him into the trunk of his car. So according to Braylon, as he's talking to police, they knew he was alive when they put him in this car. Braylon said the ringleader of this entire thing was Keith Roberts, one of the other four men. And when Braylon himself tried to push back about locking Carnell inside the trunk

after these eight hours of beating and torturing him, Keith told Braylon, you better do what you're told or you're going in there too. So Braylon's like, obviously I listened. I did what I was told. And he goes, after this, we all just parted ways when our separate ways and left without finding the money.

But Braylon claimed he actually did go back to Carnell's house later that day to check on him. But when he popped the trunk and touched Carnell's leg, he could tell he was no longer moving. That's when he got scared and left and decided to keep the story to himself, which that part kind of makes sense because the trunk was slightly popped. No, no, it could very well be true, yeah. So at the end of it all, they had only found $20 in Carnell's home. Bro.

Eight hours of torture for $20. The most heartbreaking part of all of this, though, is these were guys that Carnell thought was his friends, fellow college students from campus who he hung out with. These were people that Carnell- A bunch of freaking losers. Called his friends. Now, Braylon is arrested that day after the confession, And then later that afternoon, Morehouse campus tracked down Miles, Alan.

This is Braylon's connection. And during Miles's confession, he also claims that Keith Roberts was the one who, like, put this all together and was calling all the shots. So Miles is then arrested. And then they arrest Keith Roberts that day. So Braylon and Miles have both confessed after being, you know, brought in for questioning. But Keith, the ringleader, supposedly, was far less. eager to cooperate. He told the police he wanted a lawyer as he was thrown into county jail, but we obviously know there's still a fourth suspect at large, former

more house student known as Rahim Muhammad. Well, it takes a little longer to track Rahim down, but a month later on August 22nd, they actually find him living under the name Theodore Holliman in Chicago. So they do track him down. They do find him under his big name and they bring him in and he is also arrested and brought back to Georgia to face charges. So now all four of the guys involved have been arrested. The four men were charged and tried separately. So all separate trials. And they were each facing murder, aggravated assault, kidnapping, and burglary. Now, unfortunately, it took three long years before Carnell's family could start to get justice. That just sucks.

Now, shockingly, Braylon Garland, who was now 24 years old, who was the first one to confess, he was acquitted at his trial. And, okay, I'm not saying maybe that should have happened, but... According to him and his story, he had no idea it was happening. I'm sure there's some sort of deal. I mean, they probably would not have got as far as they did without him. Not saying you should be acquitted. I'm just saying there's deals happen. Like stuff happens.

Apparently, this is what the jury said. They were like, if it wasn't for him, if he hadn't have originally confessed and told the truth during his first confession, apparently the case might have never been solved. And as well, according to his confession, he had no idea. He tried to go back and save him. They're just, I think the jury was like in comparison to all four men who've been there, Raylon is the least guilty. And to them, that meant acquitting him. You don't have to agree with that. That is just...

That's their side of the story. Now, Miles Allen and Rahim were both convicted and sentenced to life in prison. But then there was Keith Roberts, the supposed ringleader that all of the other boys agree on. And the evidence seems to support it. There were call logs that showed Keith himself had reached out to Miles, Braylon, and Rahim. But it didn't seem to be about the money, at least not at first. Keith said he felt disrespected by Carnel over what, I'm not sure.

But Keith planned to write that wrong by breaking into Carnell's house, stealing the money he'd gotten from the settlement. So all the boy's story is the same, that like this was Keith's idea. He was the ringleader. He's the one who put the entire scheme together. Now, Keith was found guilty and sentenced to life in prisons. Good. Okay.

Now, as for Carnell Walker, he spent his life trying to prove that your past does not have to define your future. But in the end, it wasn't even the past that caught up to him. It was the people around him in his new life that took his life away. It's horrible. It sucks. I just wish people wouldn't kill people, man. Why are you torturing someone? Like, who, like, hello? And like, I'm sorry. Like, what? A couple thousand dollars. Insane. Carnell would have eventually, after eight hours of torture, if that money was there, he would have told them.

Like, they knew that. Like, rot in prison. Like, absolutely just rot. Throw him in, like, throw him in a cell that's two by two and just rot in prison. Because hear me out. By the time they left him alive in that trunk, they knew he didn't have the money. They just knew they had taken it too far. I just, yeah.

To, like, just up and walk away and look away and. leave him alive. Yeah. Like that that's just the reality. Let's take today and think about Carnell's family, as I just cannot imagine the pain and suffering they had to go through, especially with so many people involved, the years it took to get justice. And on top of that, we have a another crime that just does not seem to even have a motive.

I mean, yes, you have money, but it wasn't even real. It just does. It's, it's, they didn't even get it. It blows my mind. Thank you guys so much for listening to today's episode and we will see you next time with another one. I love it. I hate it. Goodbye.