Murder With My Husband - 335. The Aliso Viejo Spa Bombing - The Murder of Ildiko Krajnyak

Episode Date: August 24, 2026

On this episode, Garrett and Payton dive into the case of Ildiko Krajnyak, a successful spa owner whose life was tragically cut short by a mysterious explosion at her spa. Links: Netflix Video Eve...ry Monday @11am PST, 12pm MST, 2pm EST 1pm CST https://www.netflix.com/murderwithmyhusband Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband NEW MERCH LINK: https://mwmhshop.com Discount Codes: https://mailchi.mp/c6f48670aeac/oh-no-media-discount-codes Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/themwmh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/murderwithmyhusband/ Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@murderwithmyhusband Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327 Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7?si=f5224c9fd99542a7 Case Sources: Justice.gov - https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/long-beach-man-sentenced-life-prison-bombing-aliso-viejo-spa-attack-killed-his-ex?bm-verify=AAQAAAAN_____5vC8xIQMf-OeVQ1m3a9u04U1BdcRjmwkfsMSUZoeMlvKcN04ScwJiYwmFZEFUOWryhD2CuEMDy0TWKB0dV-Tqqj1oDud7Pyget6PrhRGcFaFkdLPDa-sW01CKkb1VPEmkGv73dkRahI1Og8eR1_gSIb_vdSG4WErRWYWs9iUQ9nvVlp3bD86-k7yzyQcDKPXWU5lMWOVzWezAAaAME-bMFIy-t2SKa9rzbQ-FIjImSsx3oOiClqhTeXV4NE2d0Ci-YB8PkPgd5vQBO2giImCeLe1-SWu_WWMf7GjwDIjnvHM0q1ge3x6EQA84tFSuKFW1eephMmSYX-hdqPEyHlFa25s1uD2Co3CGuZ269ByfPN-47sgd6sv5aiklLP8Sd94auzvnLtt3jnR3SgXzs PeacockTV.com - https://www.peacocktv.com/watch/playback/vod/_/f77604d6-ba0b-3091-bf1e-8cf4d5e3e531?paused=true BBC.com - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44157819 ABC7.com - https://abc7.com/post/aliso-viejo-bombing-spa-sentenced/14340689/ Medium.com - https://medium.com/@spikytv786/ildiko-krajnyak-murder-where-is-stephen-beal-now-39c7d953d4f7 CBSNews.com - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stephen-william-beal-ex-charged-blast-that-killed-california-day-spa-owner-ildiko-krajnyak/ People.com - https://people.com/inside-ildiko-krajnyak-bomb-murder-dateline-11875836 NBCNews.com - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-bomber-wife-dies-new-details-before-blast-dateline-rcna137641 CourtHouseNews.com - https://www.courthousenews.com/california-man-gets-life-sentence-for-day-spa-bombing-that-killed-his-ex-girlfriend/ FoxLA.com - https://www.foxla.com/news/stephen-beal-sentence-aliso-viejo-deadly-bombing Oxygen.com - https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/stephen-beal-arrested-in-connection-with-spa-explosion-that-killed-ildiko-krajnyak NY1.com - https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/ap-top-news/2024/01/19/man-sentenced-to-life-plus-30-years-in-2018-california-spa-bombing-that-killed-his-ex-girlfriend NPR.org - https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/17/611932563/fbi-arrests-rocket-builder-former-boyfriend-of-woman-killed-in-california-explos LAMag.com - https://lamag.com/news/long-beach-man-life-sentence-blowing-up-spa-to-kill-girlfriend/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an Ono Media podcast. Hey everyone, welcome back to the podcast. This is Murder with my husband. I'm Peyton Morland. And I'm Garrett Morland. And he's the husband. And I'm the husband. Hello, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:00:12 I hope everyone's having an amazing day. Yeah. I don't know how it's our day. Good. I don't know. Working. Working. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Working on the weekends like usual, you know? Yeah. Name that song, everybody. Thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. Thank you for supporting. We love you guys. Daisy's tired. She went swimming today
Starting point is 00:00:33 for the first time in a long time. So if you're watching on video, you will see she is just absolutely a little zonky. Droopy. Drowsy. Zonky. But yeah, I think that's all we got. We have any announcements. Merch. Oh, yeah. Dude, we almost forgot. We almost forgot. We have some new baby merch. You guys were dropping some kind of like mommy and me, spooky season baby merch,
Starting point is 00:01:03 but obviously we want you to get it now so that you know you can have it for all the fall. It's very much just like murder with my husband basics. Nothing super true crime, obviously, or graphic on them, more just like MWMH and cute matching stuff. But we have onesies. Don't worry, 100% organic.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I know none of us are putting our babies in anything. less. But yeah, I'm super excited about those and hopefully we have one soon that can also wear them. Yeah. They're cute. Go check them out. Links everywhere. Anywhere you can find a link, it'll be there. Yeah. Okay. For my 10 seconds, for anyone listening, I'm sure you are aware of what's going on. I want to say first, I do not have a lot of knowledge on this subject. So I know everyone's going to come at me. That's okay. I have a lot to learn. Second of all, it's just my opinion for what I have seen and what I know so far. What's that case going on right now that everyone's talking about?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Lindsay Clancy. Lindsay Clancy. And here's the hard thing. All I've seen... Okay. Garrett's still novice. He's saying he's definitely not as far down in the rabbit hole as the rest of us, but he is aware of the case.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Very novice, very surface level. It's just stuff that's randomly popped up on my TikTok. Usually I don't even watch it. Usually I skip it. But every once in a while, I'll watch something. Also, the reason people, Peyton I usually don't, we get a lot of questions. The reason we usually don't cover cases like this is we try to wait to everything's done. There's so much speculation right now. There's so many rumors. There's so many people saying I know what happened. I know what happened. This is what happened. The bottom line is we don't. Everyone's saying they think they know. We don't know what has happened. So that's why Peyton and I haven't covered it yet. We usually don't like to cover things until we have a verdict to error all the evidence is in one bucket we can pull from. I don't know. just something we do. So I know a lot of people looking for updates. We're still waiting for some
Starting point is 00:03:03 more information. We're waiting for other things before we will cover a case like that. Second of all, social media is good and bad, right? It's just interesting to see all the different speculation and people going, no, no, no, no, no, she did. Or no, no, no, she didn't do it. Or no, no, no, it was 100% the husband. And it's like, guys, we don't know. Like, there's so much happening daily, we just have no idea. And then also, I think I saw something yesterday where the mom just said that
Starting point is 00:03:31 that she's actually been planning it out, not the mom, but the daughter. That the daughter's been planning it out? Did I make that up? Was my TikTok lying to me? This is the problem. This is literally the problem with, like, TikTok and social media right now is there's so many things that I see
Starting point is 00:03:48 and read. I'm like, was that true? It's misinformation. Like, that actually happened? Like, I feel like just bits and pieces from the case and in my mind's just like, okay, I don't know what happened. And it's exactly why I don't continue watching the stuff because it's too volatile, like it's too up and down. I think kind of going along with what you said, I don't like covering current cases that are very well covered, especially on social media because social media coverage tends to get a little wild, a little misinformed, a little out there. And I just, number one, there's a thousand
Starting point is 00:04:22 some people who are talking about it. Not that we can't enjoy listening that stuff, but we just won't cover it yet until... An official podcast platform. Yeah. But I think, I don't know, I didn't hear anything about planning. I know that someone testified yesterday
Starting point is 00:04:41 that said after everything happened, she said, I'm so glad the kids are safe, meaning safe in heaven. That was like something that was being talked about a little bit. It's just so hard. So I'm going to tell you guys my short opinion on what I think happened. You just said not the day this. Well, that's why I'm saying it's my personal opinion.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Okay. No, like allegedly I'm just speculating. Don't take this because usually I don't like to do this stuff. But I think everyone's going to probably get mad at me for some reason. I think it probably was her. Don't think it was him. I think there's more things that are going to come out to show that it was her. So we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I don't know. It's all allegedly. I don't know. What I think tends to happen. I think it happens in our cases we cover a lot too. Sometimes it just is what it is. What I mean by that is... If you were on the jury, what would you vote?
Starting point is 00:05:45 Well, I don't... I haven't watched enough information. So you're just saying... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just off of like the little bits I've watched. Mm-hmm. I'm just saying that there isn't always a conspiracy. There isn't always a, well, well, well, well, well.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Like sometimes it's just, yeah, it probably was just this. As sad as that sounds. It happens in our cases a lot, too. Mm-hmm. I think sometimes we are looking for more in explanations and why, and sometimes when something is this crazy, I don't think we're all going to have all the answers. I think what it is, and we've had a couple cases that I think people will resonate with.
Starting point is 00:06:29 When there are nuanced circumstances behind a murder case, sometimes it is hard to see it as black and white. I think it's very difficult, which I agree with people, which I think that that's the reason why a lot of people are saying it's the, I know there's more reasons they're saying it's him. And it very well could be him. I don't. I want whoever did it, I want them to get caught. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying I think it's really hard to believe that a mom would kill her own children. I think it's very difficult to wrap your mind around that.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So I think naturally the other circumstances, it couldn't have been her. Well, yes, it couldn't have been her. But I also think there's a group of women who, I actually think a group of people, not even just women, who understand that postpartum is a real thing. That too. And that makes that super nuanced because a lot of women suffer from postpartum. I think it's like one in six suffer with diagnosed postpartum depression or anxiety. And when that many women have had complicated feelings, they then look at this case and it's nuanced.
Starting point is 00:07:43 It's exactly what I'm saying. It's really hard to see the clear bad guy and the clear good guy. All of that to be said. It's also hard because both attorneys right now, look, their job is to create doubt. Yeah. And that's what's happening. And that's also why the case has gotten so confusing because they're doing a good job. They're not only creating doubt for the jury.
Starting point is 00:08:06 They're creating doubt for every single person watching this case live. Well, and here's the thing. It's we are the people. Yes. And the jury is us. Like, obviously we're not in the courtroom, but the jury is. made up of us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And so, of course, anything that's confusing us is going to confuse them. I think also, again, when you have a case that is nuanced where there is a possible severe, severe mental situation going on. And that could be postpartum psychosis. That could be some other cases where we've seen horrific childhoods and kids who were set up to literally lose in life and then go on to become monsters and there's just this part of you that's like this is nuanced. This is really hard to to comprehend. It is important that like I think at the end of the day, three kids were brutally murdered. Oh, absolutely horrible. And my gosh, a kid can't.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I don't, I don't think whether the person who did it feels bad or not, whether there's remorse or not, whether there is responsibility or not, I think it's truly, truly so horrifying and sad that that is like a reality to know that three kids suffered in such a horrible way at possibly the hands of their own parents. Yeah. You know, whoever. And I think that that, again, like Garrett is saying, is so hard to wrap our minds around that our brains in order to make sense of it,
Starting point is 00:09:49 we can't. We try so hard and it's so hard. So then one doubt is placed. And again, I'm not giving, I'm not saying an opinion either way. I just think this, the reason this case has gone so viral and caused so much is because it's nuanced,
Starting point is 00:10:03 which most of our cases are, if we're being honest, humanity is messy. Yeah, it's, I don't know, it's really interesting because like there's times or like a TikTok will come up and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:10:14 oh, he did it. And there's times they'll come up and I'm like, oh, no, she did it. And I finally stopped myself the other day and I was like, we don't know. We don't know. We like there's so much going on. There's so much evidence being brought daily. There's so much doubt being put into us on purpose by the lawyers and the attorneys and
Starting point is 00:10:32 they're doing their job and it's just maybe we won't ever know. I don't know. Maybe it'll be a mistrial. Like we have no idea. It's just crazy. It's really interesting. Also, it's 100% bread. into us to try to figure out what happened.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Oh, 100%. And I think sometimes, you know, people are like, oh, speculation, obviously speculation to a certain degree, hence why Garrett and I don't cover this on an official podcast platform because I don't necessarily believe in large-scale speculation. But I think in not your own individual, it's very human nature to look at things that happen and dissect them to try.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It's self-preservation. And so there's also that point. heart to it too. I think that's the reason. Yeah, I think a lot of the reason is like I would hate to cover something like this and then while it's going and then start to form an opinion and be like, he did it, he did it or she did it, she did it. And then come to find out it was the opposite and they found some evidence and something happened. And it's like, oh, I just spread crazy amounts of information to millions of people out there. Like it's just not something I'm super comfortable with. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I mean, I do it to an extent on some of the cases we cover, like I have my own opinions. But those are, majority of them are solved. And they have verdicts.
Starting point is 00:11:52 They have like what has actually happened. And so again, this is kind of the reason we don't, you don't really do it. Like we did it a little bit with Gabby Petito. I think we learned our lesson there. And then I think after that we were like, I'm just not sure it's something we're a hundred percent comfortable doing
Starting point is 00:12:08 until we know, we know more. All of this to say platform. that cover it, do your thing. Yeah. I mean, information is allowed to be shared. I just think it's not.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I mean, it's the news. No different than the news. No different than anything else. We get information. Honestly, a lot of it can be helpful at the same time. I think there's pros and cons. 100%. That's why we have the news. But, yeah, again, I just feel like when something is so widely covered,
Starting point is 00:12:33 there's a thousand places to go look, you know? And then when you get into these really nuanced, and this happens in cases we cover too. The victims do start to take the back. burner. Yes. Because justice is important, right? And you want the correct person. And that is important. It is important. And so it's just so complicated and nuanced. We have, we've received a lot of people wanting us to cover it and or other current viral cases going on. We're not opposed to doing it. We just need more info. And until things are very black and white, it's just not something we'll
Starting point is 00:13:11 probably cover on this specific show. And they might be black and white soon. I mean, yeah, I think the jury is supposed to decide soon what's going on. I'm sure it'll rest soon. But yeah, so once we get more information,
Starting point is 00:13:23 we'll cover it. It's usually not too long after. It's usually a couple months. Just kind of depends where the trials are at, what's going on. So like the Idaho case, we waited quite a bit to cover it. And again,
Starting point is 00:13:34 and there's still stuff coming out with that. This complicated stuff. Yeah. Anyways, that was long. We are 15 minutes in, way longer than normal. So we're going to shut up and we're going to get right into this week's case. I'm literally not going to get right into it. I have to say something real quick.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I think we had a mishap with ads last week on a certain platform. So I just want to apologize to anyone who experienced that and was like, why the heck, are we completely bombarded? Apparently there was something going on on the platform's end. We triple checked everything on our end. So fingers crossed that that's fixed. But I did just want to give an apology because that was obviously never, it's never intended to be bombarded like that. All right. Our sources for this episode are justice.gov, peacock, TV, BBC.com, ABC7.com, Medium.com, CBSNews.com, people.com, NBCNews.com.
Starting point is 00:14:32 com, Courthouse News, Foxla.com, Oxygen.com, NY1.com, NPR.org, and L.A.Mag.com. Pretty often when we hear news of a bombing, we often think this is a random act of mass violence, that it wasn't so much about the targets themselves as it was about the message that the bomb or bombers were trying to send. So the thing that makes an act of violence like that. this so terrifying is anyone can literally be collateral damage and it leaves behind a crime scene that's very difficult to trace. There's usually very few witnesses, hardly any clues, and the perpetrator doesn't even have to be at the scene when the bomb goes off. They can do damage from miles away without ever leaving behind a hair, a fingerprint, or a shred of DNA. In many ways,
Starting point is 00:15:29 A bomb is a good weapon for a murder, but no weapon is perfect if the person who built it can't seem to keep it a secret. Okay. So today we are actually headed to sunny California, to a town about an hour south of Los Angeles called Elisa Viejo. Ooh, very familiar with this town, this city. Yes. How haven't heard of this? Because it's not as a grand skill As a bombing typically is.
Starting point is 00:16:02 This is like 15, 20 minutes for where I grew up, by the way, everybody. So we're headed there to Elisa Viejo and we are meeting a 48-year-old estetician named Ildilco Kroniak. Now, quite a name. Il-Dilco was born and raised in Hungary. But once she reached her 20s, she dreamed of moving to America,
Starting point is 00:16:26 starting a new life for herself. So eventually she does move to California, and she finds herself in a relationship with a man named Ronilo Vestil. Now, Ildico's cousin admired this new relationship. Her cousin said that they were just so in love. They were both wonderful people who made each other happy. Everyone said Ronilo treated Ildico well and would help her with her family back in Hungary any chance he got.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So it was no surprise when they tied the knot and then welcomed a baby boy into their lives. Now, as the years passed and their son got older, Ildico decided to follow her career goals and get her cosmetology and esthetician's license. And she eventually ended up owning her own spa in a commercial building in, Eliso Viejo called Magia Cosmerica. And by 2018, her son was now grown and in college. And by this point, Ronilo and Ildico, who had been so in love, had had this beautiful love story in America, they had also started to grow apart.
Starting point is 00:17:47 There was a disconnect growing in their 22-year-long marriage by 2018. The two weren't quite ready for a divorce, but apparently was enough that Ildico started to have a wandering eye. And she began looking for love in places outside of their marriage. Apparently, this is something she and Ronilo were working on but never got to fully mend. Because on May 15th, 2018, the unthinkable happened. Ildico had just come back from visiting some family in Hungary the night before. So she'd been gone for a couple of weeks, but was quickly getting back into the groove of seeing clients at her spa in Elisa Viejo.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Now that day, she treated her friend Sarah. Sarah was a longtime client of hers who was getting her lashes done. Sarah said that everything seemed to be going well for Adilco. She spoke about her trip and her family. They caught up on their lives, just like they often did during their appointments. And then later that day, around noon, Ildico had two other clients in her spa. It was a mother and daughter who she was treating together. But just after 1 p.m., the city of Elisa Viejo felt the rattle of what seemed to be at first, maybe a little earthquake.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Ildico's friend Holly, who lived about a mile away from the spa, had heard it, and what she recalled was much bigger than any earthquake she'd experienced. She said she heard a massive explosion. Now within the next hour to the source of this explosion was all over the news. This wasn't an earthquake, a two-story office building in Eliso Viejo had just. just exploded. How, I don't understand. What date are we in?
Starting point is 00:19:52 2018. We were living there. How, how did I not hear about this? California's big. Am I just like a completely oblivious sometimes? There's no way because, anyways,
Starting point is 00:20:04 I'm not going to get to it. Like, I keep up with a lot. Chukheim's not one of those things I keep up with, but I don't know. Confused. So apparently bystanders were filming the damage of this building blowing up. news trucks were covering the story.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And meanwhile, the Orange County Sheriff's Department was at the scene along with fire trucks and ambulances. They weren't sure if this had been a gas leak or something more nefarious. But one thing was clear. There was a loss of life at the scene. Outside of the building, severed body parts were found among the debris. and the smell of sulfur like you would get from fireworks was definitely in the air. Now when Holly, Ildico's friend who lived close by,
Starting point is 00:20:57 saw the news of where the bombing had taken place, her heart sank because she knew this is the same building that the spa is in. And she had a terrible feeling. Unfortunately, she was right. When police arrived, they discovered that Ildeco's two clients, so the mother and daughter, who had been her last appointments that day,
Starting point is 00:21:19 they were both still alive. They were raced to a nearby hospital. But Ildico had not survived the blast. It was her severed remains that were found scattered throughout the scene. Now, thankfully, the radius of the blast didn't injure anyone else in the vicinity. It was just the people in the building,
Starting point is 00:21:43 especially because there was a preschool. that was not too far away from the spa. But obviously, police are immediately like, what happened? What caused this explosion? Like, we have a fatality. Now, while teams began combing the scene, detectives spoke to the mother and daughter
Starting point is 00:22:03 who were being treated for their injuries at the hospital. They both had second and third degree burns. The mother, unfortunately, had lost her eye in this blast. Her daughter, though, happened to remember something critical and useful before the explosion went off. You know, when police are like, tell us about your appointment, what was going on, what did you hear, see. She said, they had actually just finished their treatments and they went out to the lobby to pay. And that was when Ildico picked up a package. She grabbed a tool and began opening the package, which, according to the package, which, according to the,
Starting point is 00:22:44 to the daughter was then followed immediately by a blinding light. They were knocked unconscious as the blast hit and the walls of the building basically turned to rubble. It was a miracle that these two had survived. Oh my gosh, this is crazy. But this immediately tells detective something important because obviously this package had caused the explosion. and I think especially nowadays when detectives hear this, their immediate thought is, is this an act of terrorism? Or was this a personal bomb intended for this spa? So by the end of the day, the FBI was also there at the crime scene, obviously.
Starting point is 00:23:30 They were called in, they were collecting clues. They were trying to figure out exactly what kind of explosive device they were dealing with. And as they sifted through the debris, they found part of the crime. parts of a CVS branded 9-volt battery and parts of a wire that were actually embedded into the ceiling of the salon. So they began to believe this was part of a homemade fusing system that someone had put together, which told them that whoever built this bomb knew what they were doing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:05 They had some sort of specialized skill or sophisticated. knowledge of how to make something this powerful at home. For the Orange County Sheriff's Department, this sounded terrifyingly familiar because back in March of that year, just two months prior, Austin, Texas was actually dealing with their own series of package bombs. There had been about five total bombs in Texas that had killed two people and injured several others and all of these bombs, again, were packaged. bombs.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You know, I honestly, this is something that I think about sometimes. Yeah. Like that I'm glad
Starting point is 00:24:48 it doesn't happen more, but I guess I'm surprised it doesn't happen more, but also I mean, there's security systems and systems put in place so it doesn't happen. But it's scary.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Like people can, you can make a bomb and just. I mean, there is a series of bombs right here in Salt Lake City. Yes. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:25:07 it's scary. I don't know. So. speaks me up. These Texas bombs that had, were around the same time, police eventually traced those bombs to a man named Mark Anthony Condit, who died after detonating one of his own bombs inside his car. They never actually found the motive for these Texas bombs, though Condit did stay in a recorded confession that he was, quote, a psychopath. And since he actually died before the explosion at Ildico's spot, police were like, it can't be him, but this is so eerie that we've had a series of package bombs in Texas a couple months ago. And now we've just had our own package bomb here in Southern California. So they're like, is there a chance this is an accomplice? Is this a copycat bomber?
Starting point is 00:25:58 These were all things that needed to be considered. Though they do eventually learn that the package that had been opened, the bomb package, was intended for Ildaco. It was addressed to her. So this makes them feel like she was probably the primary target. And that meant speaking to those closest to her to see who might have wanted her dead. It's definitely a pretty wild way to just kill one person. But that's what they're starting to think is that this was just one targeted event.
Starting point is 00:26:36 So one of the first threads they followed. is obviously Ildico's husband, Ronilo. He said he was at work during the time of the bomb blast, and he actually rushed down to the scene this second that his brother told him about where the explosion was. But there was something a little strange about his story. He tells police he wasn't even sure if Ildico had come back from her Hungary trip yet. So he wasn't even sure if she was inside the spa when it blew up. Now, Ronilo and Ildico were seemingly, like I said, on a bit of a break at this point, separated, if you will.
Starting point is 00:27:16 But they were still living together at the time. So it was odd that he wouldn't have known if she was in America. Yeah. Like at this point. Though, to be fair, she had just gone back the night before and then went into work at the spa that morning. Still, police question Ronilo, which was why that night, they end up placing. a tracker on his car, and they sent about 25 SWAT agents over to the house to search the house. And again, if you're like, whoa, this is overkill. They're dealing with a bomb,
Starting point is 00:27:50 a deadly, deadly weapon. Like, this weapon can kill multiple people at once mass mass casualties, right? So that's why it is such an intense thing, because what if there's more? What if he has more at the house that could go off. So during that time that 25 SWAT agents are searching their home, Ronilo is brought down to the station for questioning. And he admitted to the police, they had been living pretty separate lives recently. He told them, listen, she's my wife, but Ildico was definitely dating other men outside of our marriage.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I know about it. According to some of Ildico's friends, she was juggling about five to six different men. Dang. She was definitely like, gosh. It was definitely common knowledge, even to the husband. She's getting it. We're separated and I'm dating.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Okay. Like it's not necessarily that this was happening behind his back. It was just like, we're separated. And she was dating a lot at the time of the bombing. So this is not an easy suspect list to narrow down when they learn that she is dating this much. But Ronilo knows at least one of the men's name. He says it's a handyman named Max. This Max guy has a key to Ildico's spa because he's a handyman.
Starting point is 00:29:13 But Ildico had once told Ronilo that she felt a little weird about Max because he would sometimes park overnight in the spa parking lot and sleep in his car. So when they hear this and that he had a key and that maybe, you know, him and Ildico had some type of relationship, again, all from the husband. They bring Max the handyman in and it leads nowhere. Either the guy had a good alibi or the situation didn't match up because he was crossed off the suspect list, which was when police moved on to another person Ronilo knew Ildico was involved with, a man named Gabor Pap. Now, Ildico had actually met Gabor a few years prior. So back in 2015 and apparently the relationship between them had quickly become intimate.
Starting point is 00:30:04 even though they both were technically married at the time. So the two got so serious in 2015 that they spoke about leaving their current partners for one another. That was until a fight happened at Ildico's spa. Apparently, once Gabor's wife Elizabeth found out about the affair, she showed up at Ildaco's spa and things got heated. Some say it turned physical, whole, but apparently this whole situation caused Ildico and Gabor to put things on pause,
Starting point is 00:30:39 at least for a little while. Two years later, Ildico found Gabor on Facebook. Again, so that was 2015. It's now 2017. And she gave him a little poke. Remember when you can just poke people on Facebook? Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So his wife, Elizabeth, said that's when she noticed Ildico had been driving by their home in Elisa Viejo, almost like she was looking for Gabor, like she now sees this old mistress of her husband's driving around. So Elizabeth decides, what am I going to do? Am I going to confront my husband? Am I going to confront her? She says, I'm just going to send Ildico some photos of me and Gabor being intimate. That's a, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Great idea. She's like, he's my husband. This is what we do. Back off. Now, it's not clear if things had picked back up between Gabor and Ildicoe during this time. Like, I don't know if they were seeing each other after this Facebook post, and she was seen driving around. But Elizabeth made it very clear, we were over this two years ago, and I'm not going down without a fight. Now, eventually, Elizabeth texts Ron Nilo to tell him,
Starting point is 00:32:00 Hey, two years ago, I caught your wife having an affair with my husband. This happened a few years back. I just want you to know. Elizabeth even said in the text, quote, she almost destroyed my family. Enough is enough is enough. I think it's safe to say Elizabeth, the wife is spiraling a little bit at this point, to be fair.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But Ronilo, when confronted with this information by Elizabeth, actually texted her back telling her to just block it. go on Facebook. But she found that absurd saying, quote, really, you're so blind and accept what your wife is doing instead of stepping up, be a man. And you know what? Oh, my gosh. He got this text just a month and a half or so before the package bomb was sent.
Starting point is 00:32:49 So obviously, when police learn about this whole affair situation from years back, that had also trickled into the weeks before the bomb. basically, they decide to speak to the couple. And the couple cooperated even handed over all of their electronic devices, hoping to clear their names, and it helped. There was no indication that either of them knew how to build a bomb, had ever researched how to. So detectives scratched their names off the list as well.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And that's... I mean, your suspects that can actually build a bomb, like, that's not very high. I'm sure... It's pretty small. Police are like, holy cow, like we have so many potential suspects that probably have good motive and they're not working. Like they're not actually who's doing this, which has got to be a little wild. So this is when they decide to circle back to something Ildico's friend Sarah had said. This is the one who had been treated at her spa earlier on the day of the explosion before the mother and daughter.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Sarah noticed there was a man hanging around the spa that day, the day of her appointment and the day of the bombing. And she also said Ildico kind of seemed a little bit unnerved about something. She said at one point, Ildico came rushing out of a room with keys and mail in her hands. And this man that was kind of lingering tried to speak with Ildico, but she just shooed him off. And when Sarah was like, what was that? Who is that guy? What just happened? Ildico told Sarah he was just a friend.
Starting point is 00:34:31 So she acted like she knew him, like she knew who he was, but she doesn't go into any detail. So when Sarah tells police this, she described the guy as tall and stout with gray hair. Police showed her some photos and they do eventually determine the guy's identity. Apparently, it was a man. who had lunch plans with Ildico that day, the day of the bombing. Okay. And he had been seen lingering around the spa and his name was Scott Malali. I feel like I've become, like, I'm skeptical of people now.
Starting point is 00:35:12 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I'll be somewhere and I'm like, that person have a gun? Like, does that person have a bomb? Why is that person standing there? Why is that, like, why is that person acting weird over there? Yeah. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:35:24 You know who? Like I'm just, I look at people now and I'm like, nah, you're being weird. Why you're being weird? You know who gets the most unfair judgment of anyone? Who? People who go alone to movies. Oh, do not. Yes, I agree.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I'm all for it because I would go alone to a movie, but do not come alone to my movie. Don't do it. Do not come alone to my movie. I'm sorry. Because instantly it's true. Someone comes in a lone movie and I'm like, Garrett immediately gives me eyes like. You see that person they're alone.
Starting point is 00:35:54 There's no one with them. But the thing is, I would go alone to a movie. There's nothing wrong with going alone to a movie, but they really do get the worst judgment. I just don't want you alone in my movie. Anyways, okay, we can keep going. So the police pay Scott a visit next. They're like, man number three, you were supposed to have lunch with her that day. He told them he'd met Ildaco at a casino a few weeks before her death.
Starting point is 00:36:19 There was a spark. He'd even drove her to the airport for her flight. out to Hungary and had picked her up as soon as she landed at LAX the night before the bombing. He said they spent the night together and then he drove her to the spa the next day. So this actually matches up with Ronilo the husband's account that he hadn't seen Ildico because she didn't actually go back home. She went to Scott's house and then went to work the next morning. So it actually does match up that he was like, I don't even know if she's home or not.
Starting point is 00:36:52 but police want to obviously check this out. They pull up video footage from baggage claim at LAX. Sure enough, there's Ildico and Scott standing there on tape. He's helping her with her bags. And after doing a little more digging into Scott, he is also crossed off the suspect list. So man number three is crossed off. He just didn't seem like someone capable of building a bomb.
Starting point is 00:37:20 However, police soon learn there's more to Ildico's last days. Apparently, she didn't fly back from Hungary alone. She came back with a man who she parted ways from during their layover in San Francisco before she then continued on to Los Angeles and met Scott at LAX. So she actually flew home with a man. Now that man was named Laslo Zabo. Okay. So police learned that Laslo and Ildico had also been dating for a few months,
Starting point is 00:38:04 just kind of on and off at that point seeing each other. So this is man number four. And I'm not sure how the two of them met, but I know he was Hungarian and had traveled with her to the country on this recent trip. So she had traveled with Lozlo to Hungary when she went back to visit her family. And again, before you're like too worried about remembering all of these characters, I will remind you if it's important. That's why I just keep saying this is man number four.
Starting point is 00:38:35 So they track Lozlo down in his current home in the San Francisco area. And he says, I haven't even been to Southern California in months. they eventually find this to be true. So Lawslow is now ruled out. Okay, come on. It's 2018. We have cameras. Hey, they've used the cameras to find these people.
Starting point is 00:38:56 How can we not find the guy or girl? When someone has five or six guys that they're seeing at the same time or girls. So they think it's one of them for sure. They just got to go down the list. I mean. Move, we've got to move. Come on. The list is getting smaller.
Starting point is 00:39:13 But there was one person. Police were not. able to rule out. Someone who had actually come down to the station on the day of the bombing to voluntarily offer information about Ildico. It was her business partner and apparently former lover, a guy named Stephen Beale. Okay. Now, 58-year-old Stephen was a grandfather who had been widowed with four adult kids. He had lost his wife back around 2008. He had been dipping a toe back into the dating pool over the last couple years. Now, back in 2016, he said he met Ildaco on a dating app and things kind of got serious.
Starting point is 00:39:56 They started going on vacations together. Stephen would spend tons of money on Ildico during one trip to Portugal. He apparently spent $10,000 on her and five of that was for a Louis Vuitton purse that he bought her. He eventually decided to then support her spa business as well. Stephen helped Ildico find a location for her spa and the two signed the lease together. And then he helped her put together a skincare company she wanted to start called INS Enterprises, which Stephen was listed as the CFO of. But as they say, you should probably never mix business and pledges.
Starting point is 00:40:43 because soon things started to go south with the business's finances and Stephen and Ildico began fighting about it a lot and after 18 months of this little fling Ildico went to Stephen and said hey let's just like cool things down a bit and then she changed the passwords on the financial accounts she once gave Stephen access to and while Stephen was aware of at the time that she was married, he then learned she'd also been seeing other men on the side. Like she was dating around. It wasn't just him. Ildico confided in some of her friends about this relationship she had with Stephen about how like, we've just gone too deep. Like we traveled a lot. He helped invest in my stuff. And now I just don't, I want to break up. But like,
Starting point is 00:41:36 how do you do that when this man has spent so much money on you? How even before this breakup, he was controlling. He was a little possessive and would threaten her. Now, of course, Stephen doesn't share that part in his interview with police. They get that part from friends. He did tell them, however, again, this is the day of the bombing. The bombing happens. Stephen walks in and says, I know her. Here's what I know. He says he and Ilico were in business together and he felt like she was hiding things from him lately. But when it came to means and motives, Stephen voluntarily told police there was no motive for him to kill her but the means
Starting point is 00:42:14 well they might find that in his garage he tells police he was into making his own fireworks and he had been a rocket hobbyist for years so detectives are like found him you're just coming in here and telling us this
Starting point is 00:42:36 they ask him okay well would someone with your type of experience be able to convert what you do into a bomb, like to a bigger scale? And Stephen said, he has no idea how someone would put together something large enough to produce the blast that occurred at the spa. He's like, that's out of my realm of expertise. But regardless, Stephen literally just placed himself directly in their line of fire. I guess his thoughts were if I go in and I'm open, like, you're probably going to stumble across my name anyways when you begin learning about her life.
Starting point is 00:43:12 So I might as well get ahead of it. And while I'm doing that, I might as well let you know that we were kind of on the rocks because we'd start a business and broke up. And also, I like to build my own fireworks. But that wasn't the case. Because Stephen, he just could not shut up in this interview. And shockingly, the fireworks were not the weirdest part
Starting point is 00:43:34 about this interview with detectives. After talking about his little rocket hobby, Stephen told them he also had something else he was very interested in he was just like singing he was singing. He was singing. He was singing. He was talking up a storm.
Starting point is 00:43:48 You know something I've realized is I try I try not to overshare. You're very mysterious. I try not to overshare. I try not to over talk. I try to stay a little mysterious, a little cool. But also
Starting point is 00:44:04 I feel like it tends to help me out in the long run. Yeah, I think because you do your 10 seconds, people probably think you're very open. But when you meet Garrett in person, he's very closed off. He's a real tough cookie to crack. I just don't really feel like giving everyone everything. You're the most vulnerable in your 10 seconds.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to give you that. Or if I do give you something, is it a lie? Is it the truth? Me on the other hand, if I got out and said, I just talked to detectives for nine hours, Garrett would be like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you did. It doesn't surprise me.
Starting point is 00:44:39 True. Well, Stephen is the same. Okay, he's like, oh, it's not just rockets that I love. Let me tell you. Except Loki, when you were pregnant, I was telling every listener that came into the shop. I was like, Capain's pregnant. I would get text from people and be like, Garrett, just told me the news. I'm like, sure, I was telling everyone you were pregnant.
Starting point is 00:44:59 He says he likes writing screenplays. Turns out, Stephen was also an actor and writer who said he had been working with. on a script about a part-time soccer mom who had a secret life as an assassin. And he emphasized that she was very good at what she does and knew how to cover her tracks. Oh, and then he was like, do you guys want to see a magic trick? Okay, well, he's just a little crazy. Officers said they were, quote, blown away and not by the quality of the illusion, but by the fact that Stephen just, he was talking and he thought he was really smart.
Starting point is 00:45:35 He was like, I write this, I do this, you want to see a magic trick. He somehow came across like he was the soccer mom assassin who knew how to cover his tracks. But Stephen was doing the complete opposite. He led them right to his doorstep where they showed up that day with a warrant to then search his property in Long Beach, California. So they interview him and then they're like, yep, we're going to go search to see what we find. He already told us he likes rockets. Sure enough, they discovered. batteries, two handguns and a shotgun, two improvised explosive devices, and 100 pounds of
Starting point is 00:46:15 explosive material was found at Stephen Bill's home. So the day after the explosion on May 16th, 2018, Stephen Bill was arrested, but not for homicide. No, he was arrested for one charge of possessing an unregistered destructive device. Okay. And then two days later, prosecutors actually dropped those charges, primarily because a lab tech with the FBI said they couldn't rule out the fact that those devices might have actually been used for his rocket hobby, not bomb making just like Stephen had claimed. So do you even have enough evidence to prove he's the one who made this bomb and set it off? So Stephen Bill goes, gets out, he gets to live his life, but the police are not going to let him off that easily. They continue looking deeper into him to see if there's any more evidence there because, I mean, they've now gone through four men.
Starting point is 00:47:19 This is the fifth that she has dated. This fifth one invested a lot of money into her. Also found out she was seeing other men and also was her business partner. Anne likes making fireworks. Police are like, no, there's something going on. They just need more evidence. And one of the things they found was the stalking. Turns out in the weeks and months before the bombing,
Starting point is 00:47:47 Stephen had apparently been keeping close tabs on Ildico's online accounts he still had access to, which, by the way, was her personal calendar. Oh, my gosh. Her social media account. A weirdo. You name it. had somehow figured out how to get access to it. He also went by the spa several times while she was out of the country and Hungary,
Starting point is 00:48:10 which wouldn't be that surprising, you know, because, I mean, he still owns some of it. He's still involved in it. But police also suspected that he dropped off the package during one of those visits, knowing that when she came back and returned to the spa, she would open it. But there's just not enough proof yet. It's just a theory. They have proof that he was going there while she was gone. They just don't have proof putting the package in his hands.
Starting point is 00:48:37 So the police keep digging through thousands of hours of CCTV footage and other records trying to find the smoking gun. And several months into their investigation, they find something hidden in Stevens' financial records. He had bought three boxes at a store right around the corner from the spa. just simple six by six cardboard boxes exactly. Okay. Now we're getting somewhere. Like the bomb was packaged in.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And they had camera footage of him making that purchase just a week before the bomb went off in the spa. And then they remembered that 9-volt battery they found at the scene and how it was CVS brand. So they roll the dice. They look back at the security cameras from the CVS right around the corner from Ildic. spa. And they also do it around the same time that they know Stephen bought those boxes. And that's when they see Stephen on camera in CVS buying a single 9-volt battery and paying for it in cash. Now, shortly after making these discoveries, the lab techs with the FBI also come back with some evidence of their own. They concluded there was no, quote, meaningful differences
Starting point is 00:49:50 between some of the wires recovered from the crime scene and the wires that were in the devices is found as Stevens home. All of this to say to lab techs, it was a probable match. So now you have him buying batteries, boxes that the bomb was found in. Yep. The exact type of battery used in the bomb.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Which, let's be honest, those are all very generic. Like what you're naming is very generic. Boxes, batteries. Not saying, I mean, he's probably guilty, but I'm just saying it is generic. The wires match. ones found in his home.
Starting point is 00:50:28 But when you put all of that together, he's buying every single supply to make the bomb. He has 100 pounds of explosive material at his home to make this bomb. And he has more than enough motive to kill her. Police are like,
Starting point is 00:50:45 we think this is enough to make an arrest. On March 3rd, 2019, this is nearly 10 months after the explosion. Stephen Beale kissed his new fiance goodbye that morning Oh my gosh 10 months later
Starting point is 00:51:02 and he has a new fiance after allegedly bombing an ex and he goes out to run some errands and later he calls her to say hey I've just been arrested for murder
Starting point is 00:51:15 it then takes nearly three years Oh my gosh for Stephen's case to get its day in court so it's now 22 and the prosecution reminded the jury, hey, Ildico is not the only victim in Stephen's crime. There was also a mother and daughter who would have to live with the memory of that day and the aftermath, losing an eye, the trauma of it. Also, had they been standing in a different spot, probably would have died. And as for motive, they told the jury, let's tell you everything we know about Stephen and Ildico's relationship. Like, he's obsessed. He's. He's obsessed. He's. He found out she was seeing other men.
Starting point is 00:51:57 He was seething with jealousy. Apparently, Stephen had even screenshoted text on his phone that he discovered of a text message conversation between Ildaco and her new boyfriend, Lozlo, the one she went to hungry with. So they're like, he has proof on his own phone of her talking to other guys. Why would he even have this?
Starting point is 00:52:18 They also showed the jurors of video Stephen had made showing how to mix explosive chemicals to make fireworks at home. So he was, you know, documenting his hobby. And how many of the parts that he bought that were in this specific bomb or had at his home? I mean, all the signs were there.
Starting point is 00:52:37 But the defense argued, listen, there was so many people with motive to get rid of Ildico. Think of all of the men that you talked to. You have the couple who had been in this year's long battle with this affair. Or even Ildico's husband,
Starting point is 00:52:54 Ronilo. They also pointed to the possibility of Max, the handyman, who would have access to the spa. They also said, Stephen bought Ildico that battery for her business. They were like, there's no proof, like Garrett said, it's generic. There's no proof that he used that battery for the bomb or that those boxes he bought were used for the bomb. Overall, the trial lasted seven weeks. 70 different witnesses were called to the stand. When the jury, returned. Some of them had reasonable doubt. Hmm. They didn't come to an agreement.
Starting point is 00:53:30 A hung jury, men a misst trial. No verdict. But the prosecution was not done. In the meantime, Stephen went back to jail because he was unable to make his bail. But as he waited for his second trial to come in June of 2023, some new information came to light. Information that suggested, this might not have even been Stephen's first time dealing with a situation like this. turns out they discover there was some suspicious circumstances surrounding his own wife's death back in 2008. On February 16th of that year,
Starting point is 00:54:05 48-year-old Stephen and his wife, 48-year-old Christine, were carrying a heavy piece of furniture down the stairs of their Long Beach home. Stephen was carrying the top part of a 50-pound table, and Christine was on the bottom. Apparently, Stephen lost his balance and let go of the table. And the table fell on top of Christine while they were going down the stairs. And it fell on top of her.
Starting point is 00:54:35 The injury was severe, but she survived. It was extremely painful, though. Christine went to see multiple doctors in the weeks that followed. Eventually, after several days of vomiting, Christine died on March 8th from what was said to be a result of her injuries from this fall. The autopsy report said her cause of death was pancreatitis or an inflammation of the organ, as well as an electrolyte imbalance. Her manner of death was listed as undetermined. So this is his ex-wife that this happened to. But there was something a little odd about the report.
Starting point is 00:55:12 It said the lead in Christine's blood was four times higher than what it should have been. No way they didn't catch this. And the source of that lead poisoning was. unknown. However, prosecutors found that Stephen had actually purchased lead in the months before Christine's death from a company called Virginia Pyrotechnics. How do we miss this? Turns out detectives did investigate this death around the same time as Ildico's thinking the two can now be related, but according to a department spokesperson, they found nothing to suggest that her death was criminal.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Instead, Stephen's kids think the lead came from the renovations their parents were doing on the house. And apparently Stephen himself had actually gone for treatment for lead poisoning a few months before his wife died. But there's obviously more to the story when people keep digging. Stephen took out a, quote, accidental death insurance policy on Christine through his work. This is getting ridiculous. Just a few weeks before he then accidentally.
Starting point is 00:56:19 finally dropped the table on her. I don't need to hear anymore. Put him in jail. But when he went to claim the life insurance, it was denied because they're like, we don't even know how she died. We can't give it to you. Stephen eventually filed a lawsuit against both his employer and the insurance company, and he won $550,000.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Oh, gosh. Now, as Stephen's going to retrial in June of 2023, people are like, we're going to bring this up. In July of 2023, after the trial, His second trial. He was found guilty of four felonies. Malicious destruction of a building resulting in death. Use of a destructive device during and in relation to a crime of violence, possession of an unregistered destructive device, and using a weapon of mass destruction.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Stephen's sentencing hearing came in January of 2024. There, the prosecution hoped to use the information about his wife. to kind of bolster the sentence, but the judge wasn't taking it into consideration. Still, Stephen Beale was given life, plus 30 years in federal prison, and he will not be eligible for parole. But in the end, it's hard to wonder.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Would Stephen Beale have ever even ended up under the microscope if not for his own big mouth? Probably not. Would the police have eventually caught on after going through all the men? I'm sure his name would come up. Actually, no, I think you're right. I think they were slowly,
Starting point is 00:57:49 going through everybody. He just made it faster. Yeah, yeah. We'd hope, obviously, that that's true, but you also have Christine's death. That's crazy. And he'll never probably get charged for that. That's crazy. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Allegedly killed his ex-wife. He accidentally took out the life insurance policy and then accidentally dropped the table on her that accidentally killed her. That's so sad. That's horrible. He hasn't obviously paid the price for that, at least not yet. But he is in prison for Ildicose. murder. And that
Starting point is 00:58:21 is her case. That's horrible. I'm glad more people didn't die. Right? Like surprisingly more people than die. Also like again. Out of all the ways to kill somebody a bomb like if you were trying to kill one person that seems
Starting point is 00:58:38 I mean it's I guess killing someone in general's nuts. Also you're immediately getting the FBI involved. Yeah like you're asking for the most intense investigation. Like you're not getting away with this. If you do a bomb, you are not getting away with this. That's so sad. It's horrible. Why are you buying the supplies around the corner? Insane. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Anyways, that was our case for this week. Thank you for watching or listening, and we will see you next time with another one. I love it. I hate it. Goodbye.

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