Murder With My Husband - 7. Teri Jendusa Nicolai - The Mom That Could

Episode Date: May 7, 2020

In this episode of Murder With My Husband, Payton tells Garrett the story of Teri Jendusa Nicolai who was attacked by her husband. Follow along this intense fight for survival and if you, or anyone yo...u know is struggling with domestic violence, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233). LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband Sources for this episode: http://myracinecounty.com/news/waterford/2019/she-went-from-victim-to-advocate/ http://ciaspeakers.com/home/?p=1400 https://www.womansday.com/relationships/dating-marriage/a58621/teri-jendusa-nicolai-domestic-violence-survivor/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfwQlqXfKQg https://journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/larsen-imprisoned-for-jendusa-nicolai-attack-caught-trying-to-escape/article_9db066ac-bc83-11df-9066-001cc4c03286.html Follow us on our media platforms at: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband  Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, welcome back to our podcast. This is Murder with My Hus husband. I'm Payton Moreland. And I'm Garrett Moreland. And he's the husband. I'm the husband. So we have a long story today, so I'm going to jump right into itcom, Women'sDay.com, an ABC 2020 in an instant episode called Left for Dead. You can find it on YouTube, as well as JournalTimes.com. There is also a book called Left for Dead about this story and you can find it on Amazon. I didn't read the book. And there is also an episode on Oxygen's female-focused true crime series called Three Days to Live. And I also didn't watch that because it cost money. And. So Terry comes from a loving family. She grew up in Wisconsin, which I've met someone from Wisconsin
Starting point is 00:01:26 before and they said I need to pronounce it with scanson. So yeah, so with scanson. Is that what he's that really how they say it? I don't know that's what he said with scanson. Okay. She met her first husband Dave Larson and married him in April of 1996. On their honeymoon, they were arguing one night about what she was going to wear to dinner, and he hit her during the argument. She knew he had a bad temper, but she had never seen this controlling side of him. Terry wanted to leave, but she was embarrassed that they had just got married, and she was scared to look stupid. How do you divorce someone after on your honeymoon, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:04 I'm still hot. bit, how do you divorce someone after on your honeymoon, you know? So throughout their marriage, Dave would yell at her for the smallest things and he definitely practiced his dominance over her as her husband. According to Women's Day.com, Dave would yell if the window curtains were out of place or if the towels weren't folded correctly, he also would make her keep the door open if she was showering or going to the bathroom. Geez. If she ever accidentally broke something in the house or did something that was going to upset him, she would throw away any of the evidence in the neighbor's trash can. So she like got a cup out of the cupboard and dropped it and it broke. She would sweep it up and hurry and go throw in the neighbor's trash can because that would make him mad.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And there was no past evidence of this? So she said while they were dating, that she could kind of see signs like she had told family members like, oh, he's really aggressive. And she told her family members about this instance where he got so mad at a road worker, construction worker person. And he just drove around him and almost hit him because he didn't want to wait.
Starting point is 00:03:09 But he had never hit her. And so she saw signs but not... Nothing too crazy. That would have made her not marry him. One time David beat Terry for throwing away a freezer-burned sausage link because it was a waste of his money. The incident that pushed Terry to finally leave David was when he had come home angry and was yelling at her and Their two-year-old daughter was in the room and she started crying hysterically because her dad was yelling The daughter started to tell him just stop stop, stop, over and over again, like, please stop yelling.
Starting point is 00:03:45 And he walked, and she was like hiding under a table and like screaming at him. And he walked over to the table and bent down and got in her face and screamed, you don't tell me what to do. And the daughter was two. Geez. And so Terry knew in that moment, like, I gotta leave.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I gotta pack up and leave, like, me is one thing, but my kids is another. So this is all just kind of some background for me. Correct. Yeah. So it was 1999 and they had had two daughters by this point and she knew Terry knew it was going to be tough to have a civil divorce. She was trying to prove to the court that Dave wasn't fit to be a joint parent. She fought, but he also fought back and got some custody. She knew that she would never stop fighting though to get the kids taken away from him.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah. According to some sources on the day of the divorce, David told Terry, quote, you are going to regret this. After leaving, and three years later, Terry meets another man named Nick Nicole. They get married in 2003. Terry felt like Nick was such a positive role model for her two little girls. While still battling it out in courts, Terry and Dave were sharing custody of the girls.
Starting point is 00:04:59 This is all while she's now remarried and stuff. Terry could not get the courts to see that if he was this violent towards her, he was definitely going to be this violent towards the kids. It was probably hard to present evidence that shows that he was doing something wrong. So David started to verbally and physically attack Terry when she was dropping off her picking up the girls. And so Terry and she she shows the courts like she shows on pictures of her beat up and I mean domestic violence is just where is Terry's husband and all this. So he would just make it worse. He would make Dave flip out worse if he was there. So okay, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So Dave would still hit Terry during this during all this? Like she would go to drop off and pick up the kids. She'd walk him up to the door and he'd start yelling at her and screaming at her. But he wouldn't hit her. No, he would hit her. He would get physical with her.
Starting point is 00:05:59 And her husband Nick wouldn't go in and like be alone. Well, Nick wasn't always there because of Nick came, it would make like instantly Dave wouldn't let the girls leave the house. So then they'd have to call the cops and that so she would just go alone because it was easier. Okay. So Terry decides that they're going to start swapping the kids in public places after calling the police twice during one of these meetings,
Starting point is 00:06:27 when he had been physically hurting her, Terry decides that she's gonna file a restraining order against him. The restraining order was making it hard, though, to peacefully get the kids to each other because Terry would always have to bring a friend with her to an agreed upon like public McDonald's parking lot to swap the kids. And so, you know, she felt bad.
Starting point is 00:06:49 She was having to always ask her friends and her family, like, can you please come with me so I can get the kids? And it's like they're swapping them a lot, you know, and so it was just becoming a hassle. Yeah. Annoyed by the whole situation, Terry decides that she's just going to start picking up and dropping off the kids at Dave's house again hoping that They could just put everything in the past and that you know, it won't happen again as long as she doesn't bring her new husband and as long You know, as she doesn't say anything that's gonna trigger him they can peacefully get the kids back and forth through each other. I feel like
Starting point is 00:07:21 Domestic violence is a very As far as policing goes. It's I don't know in justice system I feel like domestic violence is a very, as far as policing goes, it's, I don't know, injustice system. I don't know enough about it, but it seems like it's very difficult to put someone away for domestic violence. Because as he said, she said.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah, and so, I mean, yeah, you have evidence right with. I mean, now it might be a little different. There's cameras all over people's houses and stuff. But it's definitely been hard. Yeah. And this was in 2000, 1999. Oh wait no. We're now to like 2003. Yeah. Okay. So Dave's house that she's going to,
Starting point is 00:07:53 you know, do these swaps at happens to be the house that Terry and him had been living in their whole marriage. So he kept the house when they got divorced. And she started to notice when she was dropping the kids off and picking them up, that it was like in bad shape, Dave had become a hoarder. He was obsessing over all of the stuff that they had owned together. He wouldn't get rid of anything. He kept mementos from their wedding,
Starting point is 00:08:18 including her dress, some of their photo albums. We're weird. And he would sit the little two girls down when he had them and make them watch the video footage from Terry and Dave's wedding to prove to them that, and I quote, Mommy doesn't keep her promises. Because in the vows, it was, till death to us part, and then he would sit the little girls down and go,
Starting point is 00:08:43 look, Mommy left us mommy Look she doesn't look she told me this on our wedding day and she doesn't keep her promises How are the kids allowed with him? It's so strange to me It was just she was fighting hard in the courts Yeah, because he was fighting too. It's not like oh, we have this deadbeat dad It was like oh he wants possession to gosh God, that would be hard to frustrate me. So on January 30th, 2004, Terry and her new husband Nick go and buy a pregnancy test and find out that she's pregnant and they are ecstatic.
Starting point is 00:09:18 They feel ready to be parents together and to add another child to their growing family. The next morning, January 31st, 2004, was the three-year anniversary since Terry and Dave's divorce. Terry called Dave early that morning so she could go pick up the girls from his house and she wanted them to be ready to go. Like, I wanna pull in, I want them to run out and get in the car and I wanna leave. The soon to be new parents had some plans later that day with the girls and they were
Starting point is 00:09:46 excited to tell them about the baby so they just wanted to pick them up and leave. Nick, her new husband wanted to go with her to pick the girls up because of the past, you know, like you said, he was, he was like, I need to go, but just two weeks earlier, he had gone with her and Dave had freaked out and threatened them and made a huge scene And said and he was so upset and screaming at her in front of the kids and he was like You're gonna bring your new husband to pick up to my house to pick up my kids Do I bring my girlfriend to your house to and just screaming? What a mess. And so
Starting point is 00:10:22 Teri's like no, it'll be fast. I've already called him and told him I'm coming in what time and so they'll run out like you don't need to go. It's just going to be best if I go alone. So Terry starts the short five minute drive to Dave's house. It was a cold morning in Wisconsin. It was 17 degrees and there was snow everywhere. Oh, no. When she got to Dave's, which is her old house, Dave leans out the door and yells that the girls weren't ready. She goes back to her car to wait annoyed that he hadn't gotten them ready like she had asked. After some time went by and the girl still hadn't come out, Terry walks up to the door
Starting point is 00:11:00 and knocks. Dave answers and he tells her that the girls were playing hide-and-seek and that they wanted her to come and find them. Oh, no. This is not, this is not sound good. Terry knew this felt wrong. Dave had ever allowed her back in the home since the day she left five years ago. So she hadn't stepped foot in the home. She had seen through the door, but she hadn't actually stepped foot in the home since she had collected her belongings and left five years ago. Okay. And now all of a sudden it's okay that she comes in.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. Oh, hey, come in. Let the girls. The girls are playing hide and seek. Come grab them. She brushes it off though, because she's annoyed about the whole situation and she's ready to tell the girls that she's pregnant and get to that day's activities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So she walks in the house and starts looking for the girls, you know, because they're playing hide and seek and she's calling out their names. And while her back is turned, Dave hits Terry on the back of the head with a baseball bat knocking her unconscious. Oh, man. That sucks.
Starting point is 00:11:59 That just sucks. It sucks that there's just so many things. Like I wish you would have called the place not her fault Obviously, but it just I know what a bummer bummer is bad word Yeah, it's a what a bummer so Dave stands over a Terry waiting for her to wake up Okay, once she does he starts beating her to death with the bat making sure that she was awake and aware of what was going on Instead of just beating the crap out of her once he knocked her out,
Starting point is 00:12:25 he waited for her to wake back up so she knew she was getting beaten. He's obviously wanted to kill her for a long time. Well, yeah, I mean, this was how many years ago did he say, you're going to regret this? This was all just adding up. So Terry tries to talk to him while he's beating her, but he just keeps going. Once he's done beating her with the bat, he puts a towel over her mouth to suffocate
Starting point is 00:12:48 her. He then duct tapes her wrists and feet together tearing off her pants in the process. He then took the duct tape and wrapped her head in it starting from the crown of her head all the way down to her neck. So her whole head is covered in the head. And are the kids in the house doing all this? I mean, I would assume they were in custody with him. Like that was his time to have the kids.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Jay's. So he then takes her body and shoves it into a garbage can and drags her outside. And he starts to fill up the bin with snow by dragging it around the yard and like circles, you know? So he's like picking up the bin with snow by dragging it around the yard and circles, you know? So he's picking up the snow with, so her body's in the garbage can, and he's like dragging the can down along the snow.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Because he wants to freeze her body, so it doesn't stink, I'm assuming. He's trying to get it cold. So he then puts the garbage bin into the back of his truck and goes back inside and gets the girls. So the kids were inside and they were locked in a room and they were crying at this point because he had put a movie on but it was way past lunchtime and so they were crying
Starting point is 00:13:57 and screaming and hungry. How old are the kids at this point? I mean, they're still young, like young enough that they wouldn't notice that anything weird was going on besides the fact that they were hungry. Okay. So he comes back out and he puts the girls in the back seat and starts heading towards a storage unit he had rented in a nearby state. So their mom is in the garbage bin in the back of the truck and they're in the back seat with
Starting point is 00:14:22 him driving in the front seat driving to a storage unit. What a maniac. Like what a crazy person. So Nick, Terry's husband, who was waiting for Terry and the girls to return home for their plans that day starts the anxious as the time goes by. And Terry still doesn't come home with the girls. I think if I were I think if I were Nick, the very first thing that kind of my head is, I need to go over to that house. Mm-hmm. But I mean, he knows how volatile.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah, it's hard. That's true. It's been roughly three hours since Terry left to pick up the girls. And so he just decides to call the police. Okay, good. So he's like, you know what, I'm not going to even go over and see what's happening.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I'm just going to call the police and send them to the house. So the police dispatch to Dave's house and they find it empty. But they do find that the house is full of clutter. It stinks and there is stuff everywhere. Like this guy's major hoarder. I'm sure there's blood everywhere as well. So they discover a huge blood stain next to a trash can that had women's black pants in him
Starting point is 00:15:26 The pants had been had duct tape like around the ankles and there was blood all over the duct tape Yeah, but the pants were off in the house in the trash can The neighbors tell a police that Terry had come by to pick up the kids But they later saw Dave towing her car away from the house Hello, yeah, like the cops, I know. I don't know. So the cops put an amber alert out for Terry and her two children. They know something drunk, obviously. Yeah. They worry because it's so cold outside. It's like a really cold day. And so it's like creating huge urgency because they're like if he does, if the if if these if this family is alive and he drops them somewhere
Starting point is 00:16:08 They don't have longer than an hour in this weather. So but they have no idea where to start looking It's so hard because back then right? I mean, it's not that long ago, but Smart phones and GPS and all that stuff, but just wasn't that big of a thing. So Dave, we're back to Dave now. Okay. Dave pulls his truck into the storage unit and turns the engine off. He lets the girls out to play and drags the garbage bin out of the truck and into the unit itself. He duct tapes the lid of the garbage can to the actual garbage can itself Yeah, and then just stacks tons and tons of boxes imply would on top of it and then gets back in his car puts the kids in and leaves So she's in the trash can Underneath all those boxes inside a storage unit. Yes
Starting point is 00:17:00 So how are the police ever gonna yeah find that body you know what this kind of reminds me of what you TV show yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen you but yeah, very similar. It's it's pretty good. Yeah, if you like and Garrett doesn't like that stuff and he likes you and That much I guess I don't know. Yeah, well, it's not really true crime. It's more like it's a good show I actually really true crime. It's more like. It's a good show. I actually really enjoyed it. The police put out an APB for Terry's car and luckily they find it near some rental property that Dave had. Nick and Terry's friends and family are praying and waiting worried about Terry and the
Starting point is 00:17:38 girls. It's getting darker outside and the police finally get a lead that Dave had showed up for his night shift at his workplace that night. So they dispatch out to Dave's workplace because they couldn't find him before. And they detain him obviously and they bring him back to the station to interrogate him. And he tells them that the girls are safe and that they're at his girlfriend's house and she's babysitting because he's obviously supposed to be at work right now. When they ask him about Terry,
Starting point is 00:18:07 he goes on this huge rant about how she was supposed to show up that morning to pick up the kids, but that she never showed. And that this is the kind of stuff he has to deal with all the time and how she could have the gall to take him to court and try to take his kids away from him, but she does this terrible stuff all the time. It doesn't show up.
Starting point is 00:18:25 The neighbors already said they saw Terry, right? So the cops know he's lying. So the cops, okay, good. But they're just asking him, you know, trying to get his story. Yep. So the detectives tell him, hey, dude, we've actually already gone to your house and conducted a search and we saw all of the evidence
Starting point is 00:18:41 at the house. We saw the blood, we saw the women's pants, we saw the duct tape, and then at that point, they also go, also, when you walked in here, we noticed that you have blood on your jeans. And he, like, looks down and didn't even realize that he had some small spatter on his jeans. But he's not a very smart guy, do you, though?
Starting point is 00:18:58 Well, I think that he... Because between the neighbors, we just blood on his pants. So I think that he had gotten away with bad behavior for so long, beating her, not going to jail, not getting the kids taken away from him. Like, he could kill her and get away with it. Like, I think that's what, that's what his thought process was. I can do anything and okay. So David changes his story obviously and he says that Terry had actually come to his house that morning,
Starting point is 00:19:26 but she just walked in the door and she had a hammer over her head and her pants were around her ankles. Hence why the pants were on the ground. Okay, so back to my comment about if you just want guy, he's not a smart guy. He's not a smart guy. He said in fear for his life, he grabbed a baseball bat that just happened to be sitting right next to him and he hit her on the head. I think if someone walked in my house with pants around their ankles, I don't know how scared I would be. I can't get him some help. So he says he remembers grabbing the duct tape, but he doesn't know why.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And then he says after that, he doesn't remember what happened until he showed up at work. Okay. And so this is when the cops drop a bomb on Dave. They ask him again, hey, what time to Terry show up at your house this morning with a hammer over her head and pants around her ankles? And he's like 11 a.m. And they go, well Dave, there were actually some cops dispatched to your home this morning at 11 a.m. before we came back again later and conducted a search.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The detectives tell Dave that they had actually received a 911 call from Terry that morning around 11 a.m. saying that her ex-husband was trying to kill her and she was stuffed in a garbage can in the back of his truck. No way. So she had her phone inside the garbage can as she's alive. And she had played dead the whole time he was filling it with snow so that she could call the cops when she put her in the back of the truck. But we know who the smart one out of those two were.
Starting point is 00:21:01 So Dave is confused wondering how Terry could have possibly made a 911 call at 11 a.m. in the back of his truck in a garbage can with her hands taped and taped around her head. So that is crazy. After getting hit in the back of the head by Dave with the bat, Terry came to and saw Dave standing over her with a bat in his hands. She realizes what is going on. He's actually going to kill her. And he tells her that she was finally going to see what abuse really means. He starts to brutally beat her with the baseball bat. As beating someone with a bat would not be a quiet thing, he informs her as she's screaming and making noise that the girls are in the house and in the bedroom next door and she needs to be quiet.
Starting point is 00:21:48 This means that her two little girls were playing in the bedroom while Dave was beating the life out of Terry. And she actually tried her hardest to stay quiet because all she could think was, what is gonna be the psychological effects if my daughters hear this and I dot. And mothers, like no joke, mom. So she stays quiet. was what is going to be the psychological effects if my daughters hear this and I dot.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And mothers like no joke mom. So she stays quiet. That's crazy. Terry starts mumbling in between the hits whispering to him claiming, I won't take you to core. I you won't have to pay child support. I'll do anything you want. Like, please just stop.
Starting point is 00:22:20 And he doesn't say anything. He just keeps beating her. She remembers laying there, basically lifeless, unable to move, and that Dave was hunched over breathing so hard from beating her that she thought that he was going to fall down and pass out on top of her. At this point, Terry starts to fill him, start to duct tape her wrists, and eventually get to her ankles. As Dave is trying to get the duct tape around her ankles, he's tugging so hard that her black sweatpants start to slide down off her and eventually they're around her feet. And so he tears them off. And that's
Starting point is 00:22:56 why the pants were found with duct tape around them. But he tears them off. And then he stands up and he starts talking to her. but she's like not like she's basically dead like she's not talking she's not responding she's beaten badly. Yeah she's not coherent at all. Yeah but she can kind of hear him and he's blaming her saying this is just like you to make this look like something it wasn't like I'm trying to rape you. What a weird. You're just trying to kill her. What a weird one. He's worried that it looks like he tried to rape her
Starting point is 00:23:30 when he was just trying to kill her. Like that's why he said, oh, she came in with her pants around her ankles because he didn't want anyone to think that he had tried to rape her. But killing her was okay. But killing her was fine. Yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I'm actually surprised that she's alive. So I'm surprised she's alive. Yeah. And so she's like, co here enough to think, but she couldn't put a sentence out. Yeah. Because she's beaten that badly. But she knows at this point, like, that she needs to be playing close to dead so that he thinks, because she's worried if he feels like I'm still alive enough, he'll keep beating me, or he'll shoot me. Like he wants me dead. She knew that. So she like just limped around like she, she knew she was smart enough to know.
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Starting point is 00:27:56 bit and made a little like open the tape enough so that she could breathe out of it. So she then hears Dave bring something big into the room and she realizes that he's going to part her in to something and so slowly she turns her body around as she can hear him moving around to make sure that whatever he's putting her in, she goes in feet first and not head first because she knows if she goes in head first, she won't be able to climb out. Okay. So she wiggles around so that when he comes back to put her in, he'll grab her feet first and put her in. She's, I mean, she's super smart, but he's obviously not very smart because if he really, not really wanted to kill her, he obviously wanted to kill her,
Starting point is 00:28:37 but he just was so lack to, I think he knew that he was going to take her to the storage unit. Uh-huh. And that she was so close to being dead that she would die. Maybe, or maybe he was gonna take her to the storage unit. Uh-huh. And that she was so close to being dead that she would die. Maybe, or maybe he was gonna go back and do something out there. Yeah, who knows. But whatever it was, like, she's still moving. Yeah. She's not holding a coherent sentence or thought with him.
Starting point is 00:29:01 So she then starts to fill it get cold. She's sitting in this bin, head wrapped up, can't see, ankles, hands tied up. And she starts to fill it get cold. And so she realizes that he's dragging her outside. Remember, at this point, she is only in her underwear and her jacket because her pants have been pulled off. Yeah. And her shoes and her socks have been pulled off. And the store jun and it's aren't heated. So it's freezing. So well, she's gone in the store juning yet.
Starting point is 00:29:25 She's still at the house, remember? Oh, okay. So she remembers him dragging her around in circles and it takes her while to realize that he's he's dragging her around to put the snow into the bin, like pushing it into the bin. But she's in the bin, basically naked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And it's freezing. So like, I just can't even imagine the tear of that. So then she fills him put her Into the back of the truck and then she hears him leave and go in the house. This is when Terry With her hands tied reaches into her jacket pocket and grabs her cell phone Realizing the whole time knowing I have my cell phone in my pocket. Please don't find it Please don't find it and he never finds it And so she just kept quiet until she could tell she had time alone That's so crazy. Realize that her hand her face is so covered
Starting point is 00:30:12 She's completely blind her hands are taped so she gets the cell phone and at this time Cell phones were the ones the kind that had a keypad like a flip-flown Yeah, and so the the the numbers were raised a little bit. So she fills the numbers because she can't see and dials what she thinks is 911 and presses like send. And crosses her fingers hoping that she was calling the police. An operator picks up and she is so relieved that she actually dialed 911.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Like she's like, I did it, I dialed it. I feel like I used to do that in school though, like I would text. Without looking at the teacher. We're looking at the teacher. And then look down and be like, oh. Exactly. So once the operator answers,
Starting point is 00:30:54 though, she realizes that she can't talk because she has this duct tape around her mouth. Oh yeah. And so she just holds the phone up and starts to just repeat the address of where she's at. She just repeats it over and over hoping that they can make it out. Keep in mind, she's badly beaten, barely alive, and in 17 degree weather in a bin full of snow, make it basically.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I also wonder, it makes me wonder while she's in the car doing on the phone, like, you obviously can't hear, but I wonder how loud it was. I know. I wonder if the girls could hear. I don't know, you know what I'm like, you obviously can't hear, but I wonder how loud it was. I know. I wonder if the girls could hear. I don't know, you know what I'm saying? So Dave comes back out and starts his truck and takes off. And she, you know, she's only recalling this from what she's feeling, right?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Okay, you start off the truck, okay, we're driving. A little bit later, Terry hears sirens and squad cars drive by. So she's like, oh my gosh, they found me. But then loses hope as they pass realizing how could they have known she was in the garbage bin in the back of this truck when the place she told them to go was the address. That scene right there is like a movie.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah. And she just, in the back of a car and cops drive by. Wow. So at this point, she loses hope. Like, she's like, the only way I'm going to get out of this is on my own accord. And she thinks about the kid, her daughters. Like, she said like, the only way I'm going to get out of this is on my own accord. And she thinks about the kid, her daughters. Like she said, I just kept thinking about my daughters and how he's now with them and
Starting point is 00:32:12 what was he going to do to them? Like he still had them. Yeah, mom power. Yeah, she's like, so she finds her cell phone again and her like, she's like, okay, well, maybe I can do something with my cell phone again, like call them back and say, no, we're driving now. I don't know where. So she gets it out and she dials her husband Nick because at least Nick knows, knows Dave, you know? And so she's barely able to talk and you can go back and listen to all of these calls.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Oh, because operas recorded them. And she's like, just breathing really heavy, taking like 15 seconds in between each sentence, like barely able to form like a coherent thought like it's sad because you can hear that she's dying, but she's trying. And so she's barely able to talk. And so she tries as hard as she can to tell Nick that Dave is trying to kill her and that she's in a container in the back of his truck and that he's driving. And so, can you imagine getting that call from your wife?
Starting point is 00:33:10 My ex has been, he's trying to kill me. I'm in the back of his car. I don't know where we are, but I'm in a bin. I'm in a bin and my head is duct tape. My hands are duct tape. And so, he tells her, hang up and call 911. Like, maybe they can track the phone, like, hang up and call 911. So this part for me is the most frustrating part of this case. Oh no, it's going to frustrate me. So she calls 911 again. And this batch, it like,
Starting point is 00:33:38 dispatches to not the people she called earlier because he's driving. So it dispatches to a different 911, like, I'm guessing a different county has different, whatever. And the dispatcher is not taking her seriously, she thinks it's a prank call, because like she can barely talk. And like she's, but I'm like as a dispatcher, like if someone calls and can barely talk and sounds
Starting point is 00:34:03 out of breath, hi, they're probably in trouble. Oh, I can't even I can't even talk about that So like Terry Is clearly in distress and you can hear it like I had to I listened to the call yeah, and She can't breathe. She's barely alive. It's worse than the first call and operator questions basically everything she's saying it's worse than the first call and operator questions basically everything she's saying. She asks her when Terry's like, my hands are tied. Like she's trying to tell her, my name is and then the lady's like, what's your name? What I can't hear you? What's your name?
Starting point is 00:34:34 I can't hear you. And you can go back and listen to it. And she's like, there. Like she's trying to say it, but she can't. And so then she's like, I have tape over my mouth. Like she's trying to tell her, I can't. Yeah. And so then the lady's like, why don't you just stand up?
Starting point is 00:34:48 And she's like, my hands are tied, my feet are tied. And the lady goes, literally says, if your hands are tied, how are you holding the phone up to your ear? Oh my gosh, I'm so mad right now. Yeah. Oh, this is frustrating me. Okay, keep going.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So when Terry, like, can't reply, so she asks her, how are you holding the phone? I'm boom you know, and she's like, she can't reply like at this point, she's about to black out again. This whole time she's been going in and out of blacking out. Like she wakes up and she's still in the back of the car. Yeah, well, she's cold. She's being. Yeah. And so she's about to black out again. And so she can't reply. And so all you can hear her is like Like heavy breathing in the back and the operator says um, ma'am Do you want to talk to me or do you really just want to sit here and breathe deep like that?
Starting point is 00:35:34 That's literally what the operator says to her and eat like that's word for word and then the operator hangs up because she's not replying because she's blacked out I Thought it was Standard though even if you call the police and hang up. They're supposed to I mean I get the kit set because they don't know where she is because she's not replying because she's blacked out. I thought it was standard though, even if you call the police and hang up, they're supposed to, I mean, I get to get sick because they don't know where she is.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah. Well, and she said, like, she's, I don't know where, I don't know. I'm just driving in the back of my ex husband. I mean, a container. I mean, a container. Like, she doesn't even, she doesn't even know she's in garbage cans. She just knows she's in a container. So that part was just so frustrating to me.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Because in a lot of the movie part, like the movies about this, when they would interview the detectives and stuff, they wouldn't talk about this call. They left it out of the story because it makes the police look bad. Because how could you do that? I wonder, I actually can't imagine how many death threats or whatever happens.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I don't even know, like I did so much research and I never found the name. Okay. But I'm sure, I mean, maybe there are people who know, but yeah, like I just, that's so, I've heard, 9-1-1 calls word, this is the exact situation. Someone's kidnapped, they can't talk very loud, they can't say very much details, and people, the operators, find them. They're like, okay, no, you can't talk. Yeah. Tell me what's around you. Can you find a window? Can you, you know, like they're so good at working
Starting point is 00:36:48 with them. And sadly, this dispatch just saw it was a print call. I wonder if they were getting a bunch of print calls about this or something. Cause I know, but you'll imagine, can you imagine being Terry and just sitting there going, I'm about to die. I can fill it. I don't know where I'm going and they aren't taking me seriously like they aren't taking me seriously Everything that could go wrong is going wrong. Mm-hmm. So Terry blacks out obviously after she comes to again And she's still in the back of the truck and she's like I have to fight the cops aren't looking for me They're not taking me seriously. I have to fight. So she scratches. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:25 So I must have missed this the first time. So they're in a truck. She's sitting like the kids are in the back seat of the truck. It's like a two. Yes, and she's in the bed. And the bed. The bed of the truck. And tipped over with a tarp over her in a trash can.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Okay. So keep in mind, she's in fetal position position in this like you can't fit in a trash can No, you can't stand up and so she's probably just sunken. She's in fetal position So she starts to scratch the duct tape off her hands with her thumb So she like her hands are tied, but she reaches one thumb down and just starts to break the duct tape and she eventually gets it off and so she and just starts to break the duct tape. And she eventually gets it off. And so she wiggles, she can't see. She knocks the lid off of the container
Starting point is 00:38:08 because it was just sitting on it. And then she reaches around trying to find air. Like she wants, she's thinking in her head. If I can get my hand out of whatever I'm under, someone maybe could see me that's driving past. Oh, okay. So she finally gets her hand out from the tarp. She's like filling her round, gets her hand out from the tarp. She's like
Starting point is 00:38:25 filling her round, gets her hand out from the tarp and just starts waving her hand like crazy. Like maybe someone can see me, maybe someone can see me. She fills the truck, start to stop, and then she starts getting beat with a bat again. And he saw her waving her hand. So he knew at this point she's still alive. So she hears him say one more stunt like that and I'll just get my 38. She says that to her and then gets back in the car. And so at this point, she's like, I don't want to die. I still want to try to fight. So I'm just going to I'm just going to play dead from here on out because I I don't want him to actually kill me. Yeah. So Terry starts going over in this drive in between blackouts. I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:39:07 What did no one so no one saw him beating her again? So she he's just driving in between two like he's driving to a different state But it's not far. It's a nearby state. So it's going to Illinois. Okay, and so I think he's probably just on like a two lane Country road drive. You know what I'm saying? I doubt it's very busy So Terry in between blackouts starts to go over in her head how she thinks Dave's gonna kill her Like cuz she's got nothing and she she said to herself I tried to keep my brain busy because I was scared to pass out again So she wonders if he'll you know, I'm in a container, so he's gonna drop me in a lake.
Starting point is 00:39:48 He's gonna leave me in a forest. And then after that, what's he gonna do with the kids? And then she blacks out again. So she's woken up again, because the garbage can, she's sitting and starts getting dragged out of the truck. She can hear her daughters playing outside, laughing in the background. So he stopped, this is when he's gone to the storage unit. He stopped. He let the girls out and then he's dragging her out and she comes to and can hear her kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I just can't even imagine. I can't either. So she hears things being moved around. She gets dragged somewhere and stopped and then she can hear things like pounding on top of her and She doesn't say anything hoping that Dave will think she's dead like this whole time. She just stays quiet She doesn't even mum like murmur or anything. She then hears a door shut and then she knows Okay, I think he's gone like I think I'm in something and he's gone And so she waits a while, but can you imagine like what time do I start screaming? he's gone. And so she waits a while. But can you imagine like, what time do I start screaming? Like in my back in the house or in my somewhere else? And at what point do I scream for help? You know, so she waits. And then she starts to scream. But she said, I didn't even think about this beforehand. But I just screamed his name. Like I was like, Dave, because she thought,
Starting point is 00:41:04 well, maybe if he's still here and he comes in, I can say, Oh, I wasn't screaming for help. I was screaming to talk to you. Like I was trying to get you, you know? But then no one replies and she doesn't hear anything. So she just starts screaming for help as loud as she can keep in mind. She's freezing at this point. She's beaten. She's near death. And so it's not very loud, but she's like, I, I'm just gonna scream. She puts her hands down and checks her, her pockets for her cell phone and realizes it's gone. So at one point while she was blacked out, he, he took her cell phone.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Did. So this storage unit, something I thought of, it's in another state. Yeah. So he, it's not far thought of it's in another state. Yeah, so he it's not far But it's like it's not kind of weird to have a storage unit in another state or maybe that's not all I think it was trying not to draw suspicion like hoping if they did checks In the state of Wisconsin for he wouldn't have anything pop up. So he's but he's obviously owned it for some amount of time It was very definitely pre-planned just for this. God yes. This summer, PXU Energy is back. The ultimate summer path, starting 50% off energy charges
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Starting point is 00:42:57 Okay. And so she starts to push on the lid, unaware that it's duct taped and it is piled, on piled, on piled. And so she's pushing for no reason but she doesn't know that Terry has lost track of time at this point because she's been going in and out of consciousness and she's dying Her head is swollen her eyes are completely swollen shut at this point. She couldn't even open them if she tried She's freezing she's bleeding and so she tries to scrape her hand like through the lid like she's like if I can find the edge of the lid
Starting point is 00:43:26 I can try to scrape my hand and she said that she only there was no reason for doing this other than to keep herself awake and Like on task of doing something because she was scared that the next time she blacked out She wasn't gonna wake back up. Yeah, that makes sense So she's like I just focused on doing this so that I could keep my mind Coherent enough and like focused on something so that I wouldn't black out. Just smart woman. Super smart. So back at the police station, it's 4 a.m. and detectives go through the evidence again.
Starting point is 00:43:56 He won't tell them where she is. And so they go through all of his stuff and they go through his wallet and they find a business card for a storage unit in a nearby state. And so they call the business and they ask if Dave had rented a unit there and they say, yeah. And they ask him to check the records and see if he had been there that day. And they say, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And so they tell the employee to go to Dave's locker and see if they can hear or see anything see if they can hear or see anything, see if they can get in. And so the employee comes back to the phone and tells them that he could hear a faint moaning sound coming from the storage unit. No way. And so the police officers race to the unit. They dispatch the local police that are there to the unit and they break open the door
Starting point is 00:44:41 and they see nobody. And Terry comes to like she's passed out but she comes to when she hears the sound and she stays quiet. She won't say anything because she thinks it's him even though they're saying were the police she like I think at that point you're so scared. She's so confused and scared. And she doesn't say anything she won't say anything even though they're announcing themselves as cops and stuff and so the cops noticed the garbage can with the duct tape and they literally go, okay, well, if there's one place in here that she's hiding, it's in that bin because there's nowhere else to be hiding. So they start unstacking the stuff and they take the
Starting point is 00:45:17 duct tape off and they find her in the garbage can. Yes, yes, yes. It was 20 degrees in the storage unit when they found her and her body temperature was 86 degrees. The officers say that when they lifted off the lid, it didn't even look like a human being. She was completely unrecognizable. She was just stuffed down in a fetal position, head wrapped, and bleeding swollen. So they get her in an ambulance, and then she blacks out again. That's all she remembers. The doctors and surgeons from the hospital say the only reason Terry survived those 26 hours that she was gone was because she had played dead.
Starting point is 00:45:55 If he had beaten her even one more time with the bat, she would have died. She had that much brain trauma. They say she was about an hour away from dying of hypothermia when they found her. There was a lot of obviously bad things that happen, but then there were some good things. Like the storage unit person, he could have come back and said, I don't know, I don't hear anything. Imagine if she had been blacked out. Yeah. They probably wouldn't have raised there, but she happened to be awake and moaning for help during that time. I'm just honestly though, still surprised that he heard something through there.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I know. I'm sure he was probably just like, what? And she's tucked in there, you know? Yeah. Um, so Terry actually had to have all 10 of her toes amputated due to frostbite. Uh. And they almost had to amputate her arm, but the surgeons were like, hey, let's just leave it because sometimes tissue like regains,
Starting point is 00:46:46 you know, and it did. It regained, she regained full mobility. We grew, we grew. Yeah. So sadly, she lost the baby. She was pregnant with through to the beatings. Yeah. And she spent seven weeks in the hospital
Starting point is 00:47:00 and had 10 different surgeries. Wow. The detectives back at the station, once they find her, you know, she's in the hospital, she's fine. They go back into the room because Dave is still in custody because it's only been 26 hours. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And they tell him that they had found Terry in a storage unit and she was alive. And he put his head in his hands and said, I don't know what you're talking about. That's all he said. And they were like, yeah, you do. And they walked out of the room. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:33 And she's alive to testify against you. Yeah. So he, at that point, he knew I'm done for. She was alive. How could she still be alive? Oh, man, this, this makes me so mad. I'm glad she's alive, but it's just, how can you do that to somebody? On August 16th, 2005, David Larson was sentenced to 35 years in prison
Starting point is 00:47:53 for attempted first degree intentional homicide because he didn't actually kill her. And this is the part of the justice system that sucks, is if he had killed her, it would have been life in prison, probably without possibility of parole, but because she lived, even just barely an hour away from death, he got 35 years, which is still a lot. But it just, I, you know, how old is he at this point? Do you know?
Starting point is 00:48:17 No, I don't, but I mean, I'm guessing 40s, 50s somewhere around there. So he, there's a chance he might not even be alive when he comes out. Yeah. Well, don't worry actually because in 2010 David tried to escape prison. So now he really is in prison for life. Okay. I know. Well, according to journal times, he was trying to fake a medical emergency, but they had found his plans like written out beforehand and so they knew and so as soon as he started faking it They arrested him and they were like we were trying to escape and so he was actually moved to a heavy duty maximum security prison Because of it and he'll be there for life Yeah, that one deserves a yay. I'm so glad they found her. I know me too because I think I would have Just walked away. I know I too. Because I think I would have just walked away. I know. I know
Starting point is 00:49:06 it was such a bad story, but it was good story because she survived. I was making so many. Whoa, wow, crazy. Just because I was so hyped up there. You miss. So if you find that annoying, I'm sorry. No. So this story is truly a sad case of the trouble and error that comes with domestic violence cases. Terry had called the cops multiple times on his abuse beforehand. She had taken pictures of her wounds and the police had taken pictures of her wounds from his abuse. It was in their files and the DA had decided not to press charges. Why is it so hard to get help and injustice when you need it? Why couldn't
Starting point is 00:49:46 this have been prevented? It could have and it should have. The reason that Dave thought he could get away with killing Terry is because he had gotten away with bad behavior for years from the law and was never punished for it. Terry has since become an advocate in fighting domestic violence and standing with victims. She helped draft the Wisconsin's Safe Act, which takes weapons out of the hands of abusers. So when she filed for a restraining order, they said, okay, you have to turn in all of your guns, but unless they had a warrant, they couldn't go to the house and confiscate his guns. Okay. So she now has made it that if you get a restraining order
Starting point is 00:50:28 filed against you, the cops can automatically go to your house and check for guns. Which is great. That's great. But it also does kind of suck that people can still use knives as a bat. Yeah, exactly right. But still, it helps.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I mean, she's alive, right? Yeah. She is also the chairman of Marcy's law Which is a victims right initiative that gives victims constitutional rights She also goes around every year and does conferences on domestic abuse domestic violence like what to look for signs how to get out of it Here are some resources like she has gone full force in helping women in domestic violence situations get help Great job. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Terry says to this day, if you have kids or someone you want to stay alive for, that's enough. Terry and Nick have since had a son and that's the attempted murder of Terry Jandu, son Nicolay. So Nick and Terry are still married. I think. Oh. Most of the sources said that they just had a son, but then I was watching some interviews. And she was kind of, I don't know, I just couldn't get a read on it. So I'm not going to say yes for sure, but I'm going to tell you that they had another baby after she lost that one and it was a boy. Okay. So was, I said that a lot, but that was pretty,
Starting point is 00:51:45 that was like a movie. I know. All, I say this like in all of them. They're all, I mean, they're all pretty movie-ish. It's because I'm such a good storyteller. Okay, that's why. By the way, my wife does a lot of research and spends a lot of time researching these.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Just wanted to throw that out there, so. No, I, at least I like doing the research. It's a lot better than writing an eight page research paper on something I didn't like like I used to do in school. But it's just a lot more work than I thought. Oh yeah, we can do a podcast and you can research for 20 minutes and we'll start it. But no, it's hours and hours and hours. Well, I want to make sure that I get all the details correct. Yeah. That I'm crediting the people. I need to credit. That's good. And that it's a good story. sure that I get all the details correct that I'm crediting the people. I need to credit and that it's a good story.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I have to get all the details because once I get all the details, I write it in a way that's like, I didn't tell you she was alive yet, you know, but then, you know, stuff like that to make it more intriguing for you. Yeah. So basically you should share the podcast with all your family and friends and everybody you know because she's put a lot of work into doing this. Well, I hope you guys like it. But if you do like it seriously, please share. Word of mouth is an awesome way. The best marketing. And thank you to everyone who has left reviews.
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