Muscle for Life with Mike Matthews - Q&A Part 4: Flexible Dieting Tips, Lifting and Cardio, and Female Training

Episode Date: December 30, 2014

In this podcast I answers reader questions on how to make flexible dieting as "flexible" as possible (1:25), how to best work lifting and cardio into your schedule (11:22), and my recommendations on how women should work with weights (15:56). Want to submit questions for me to answer? Go here: http://www.muscleforlife.com/ask-mike-anything/ ARTICLES RELATED TO THIS PODCAST: The Definitive Guide to Effective Meal Planning: http://www.muscleforlife.com/healthy-meal-planning-tips/ Why High-Intensity Interval Training is Best For Weight Loss: http://www.muscleforlife.com/high-intensity-interval-training-and-weight-loss/ Cardio and Muscle Growth: Friends or Foes? http://www.muscleforlife.com/cardio-and-muscle-growth-friends-or-foes/ Want to get my best advice on how to gain muscle and strength and lose fat faster? Sign up for my free newsletter! Click here: https://www.muscleforlife.com/signup/

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And specifically what the questions are going to be relating to are some, uh, just some diet advice in the way of meal planning, meal tracking, using my fitness pal, um, and how to, how to make the progression kind of into flexible dieting, uh, as smooth as possible, how to go from a kind of newbie to a more advanced, flexible dieter in a sense. And some tips and tricks that I like to use. And then the other question is going to be about cardio and weightlifting. And if doing cardio impairs your weightlifting gains and how to manage that. And then the last question is going to be about why I recommend that women start training in a higher rep range than men, with lighter weight than men, and when women should start including heavier weightlifting in their training.

All right, so let's get to it here. So the first question here comes from Neil, and he says that I give some great nutrition advice, and he wants me to share how I implement this. For example, currently using MyFitnessPal works fairly well, but do you measure your meats raw or cooked? There seem to be a lot of ways to do this. So I'm going to take this simple question. I measure everything raw because cooked weights can change. But I want to talk a bit more about just kind of flexible dieting in general and how I like to utilize it and how I think people that are new to it should, should you use it in

the beginning and then kind of how to progress, uh, from that newbie stage into a more, uh, once you become more comfortable with it and how to, how to make it even more flexible, I guess, in a sense. So one thing that I, uh, still do myself is I, I don't really track, uh, on a day to day, like I don't use my fitness pal because I prefer to make a meal plan. And I eat certain meals are fixed in terms of I eat the same foods every day because I really like them. They just taste great, and I don't have any reason to change them. I do every once in a while, every few months or so. I'll do something different.

So those meals are very simple. I keep some food here at the office. Like, for instance, honey crisp apples are in season right now. They're so delicious. So I'll work a couple of those in my meal plan every day. I eat these spelt muffins that are spelt English muffins that are super good with some PB2 and jelly. So certain things that I just, those meals are real good, real tasty. And so those don't change. And then other meals, like for instance, my dinners are a bit more flexible in terms of I just have numbers. Like I'm going to eat 100 grams of carb, probably about 50 grams of protein and 20 grams of fat. And that's my dinner. get into like a mood of – because I'm working on a new cookbook right now.

So I kind of use that dinner slot to try different recipes and then if one is particularly good, I might eat it a few days in a row and just kind of play with it. But I'm making that work in terms of like I'm going on – I'm pretty familiar with the different foods that I eat now. But if there's something I'm not familiar with, go on Calorie King and I do check it out to see, uh, you know, what am I actually eating? But that is a, is a good way if you want to, you know, just go home and decide, do you feel like having some pasta? Do you feel like having some potato? Do you feel like having some sweet potato or do you feel like having some bread, whatever, just, you know, you got to work out in those numbers. And if you are maintaining or, um, you have a little bit of flexibility there, I would say you have more flexibility in terms of like if you're 50 calories or 100 calories over your allotment for that meal if you're maintaining.

It's not that big of a deal. I would say you have probably the most flexibility when you're maintaining than when you're cutting or bulking because when you're cutting, if you get too loose with your meals, you might end up overeating by 400 calories a day. And if you do that enough days in the week, that can be, I mean, that's it. You might not even lose any fat that week. And if you're bulking and you do that and you are too loosey goosey and you're overeating by 400 calories a day, when you're bulking, then you're just going to be, you know, eating, you're going to be in an even bigger surplus, which means faster fat storage, which means, you know, as you get fatter, insulin sensitivity goes down in your, not just in your fat cells, that'd be great, but in your muscle cells as well. And, you know, one of insulin's jobs is to drive

nutrients into the cells. So you want your body to be responding well to insulin signals. And as you get fatter, it just doesn't. So when you're bulking, that's, you don't want to be responding well to insulin signals. And as you get fatter, it just doesn't. Um, so when you're bulking, that's, you don't want to be gaining fat too quickly because as it goes on, you're kind of impairing your body's ability to build muscle. So that's when you're bulking. I, I, and the mistake that so many people make is they think they're bulking so they can just, you know, who cares if they eat another chocolate bar or they eat another, this or another, that, whatever. Um, that's definitely the wrong way to look at it because what will happen is you'll gain fat too quickly. Uh, and then you'll only, let's say be in two months of a surplus instead of four months of a surplus.

And you only have built, you know, as much muscle as you've built in those two months. And then you have to cut. And if you, if you do the cut right and you preserve that muscle, you still now, let's say the cut takes another two months, then you're back to a bulk that you want to be dragging those bulks out. You want those bulks, you want to, you know, you want to be four months or even longer, depending on, you know, your body and how it responds to a surplus of food, uh, in that surplus building muscle, building muscle. And then when you flip to a cut, ideally it's as fast as possible without crash dieting. So you can get back to bulking and so forth. Um, so when I'm maintaining, um, I, I'm, I'm following numbers, you know, some days I'm

going to be a little bit over some days I'm going to be a little bit under, um, and it all kind of evens out when I'm cutting. I usually, uh, am a bit more specific with my foods when I'm cutting. So those 100 grams of carbs might be 500 grams of potato or something like that. Or 70 grams of carb from potato and some vegetables as well. But it's a bit more precise just so I don't accidentally overeat basically. But in the beginning, what I recommend, if you're new to flexible dieting and you're not sure if it really works because you've heard all the bullshit out there about,

you know, fat loss requires that you don't eat certain foods or you do eat all these different types of foods or you do this kind of cleanse or, you know, you don't eat after a certain time period or whatever. And if it sounds to you flexible dieting, which is just hit certain numbers every day, eat foods you like, eat whenever you like.

If that sounds too good to be true, I understand. I thought the same thing in the beginning. I thought I was definitely skeptical. So that's why in the beginning, I recommend that you create a meal plan, which I will link an article down below that shows you exactly how to do this, that fits your numbers. You eat the exact same foods every meal, every day. These are foods you

like, so you're not going to get sick of, you know, it's going to take you probably a good three or four weeks before you feel over anything particular because you're eating foods you like. So you eat the same foods every meal, every day, see how it works, see how your body responds. And then, you know, you'll see the weight coming off and then you'll know that it is that simple. So from there, if you want to make some changes, I recommend that you start with changing individual meals. So let's say your breakfast is normally, I don't know, 40 protein, 70 carb and like 20 fat

and you want to do a new breakfast. Take those numbers, go on calorieking.com, come up with something new and uh, and make that your breakfast and then eat that, eat that, eat that, and see that your body still continues losing fat and you still feel good. No problems. Okay, cool. Maybe your lunch now can change next or maybe your dinner or whatever, but you're still following, you're still eating the same foods every day. And when you feel comfortable with that, then, you know, if you want to just do what I'm doing right now, cause I'm maintaining, which is just, you know, you have certain, I mean,

you can do it when you're cutting too, but then that's where my fitness pal comes in. So if you're going to just say, Hey, I need, you know, for my lunch, I want to eat 70 carb, 30 protein and 10 fat. And you want to just kind of decide on the fly on the go, like, what is that going to be every day? You're going to want to use my fitness pal. You're going to want to set custom macros on the website though. Don't use their recommendations because it's too low calorie, too low, too low protein, but you're going to want to, you know, go set custom macros, use that app. Um, don't go out and eat at restaurants because you don't know what's in there. You have to assume there's always more calories than, than you want there to be,

usually in the form of like butter, cream, and oil and stuff like that, which just makes food taste good. So you're going to want to prepare the food yourself or if it's just simple things like fruit and certain vegetables and nuts and things that aren't even prepared, you just have them and eat them and track how much you're eating. And that's where weighing comes in. You're going to want to know like, okay, you're, you're going to eat almonds. How many almonds put it on the little food scale?

I have one at the office. Uh, so if you're going to eat, you know, a hundred grams of almonds or whatever it is, then you can be very precise in your intake. Um, but then you can be flexible. You can eat different foods every day if you'd like, but you have to be willing when you're cutting at least to go through that drudgery, I guess, a little bit. And it'd be the same for bulking and maintaining. If you're really trying, if you're really kind of, your intake is different every day in terms of what you're eating, then you just have to get used to tracking things basically. And then also along the way, you're going to start learning

foods and you're gonna start getting familiar with foods. So then if you're, you know, let's say you're out doing something all day and you're, you're at Disney world and you're not, you don't want to bring, you know, all your snacks and things with you. You want to eat when you're there. Well, then what you can do is, uh, when you're familiar with foods and you go to a restaurant and you can look over a menu and you'll immediately know certain foods are just off limits because there's way too much fat or you don't know what's in there. There's probably too much or whatever. But then there are plenty of things that you can know. Okay, that can't be that bad.

You know what I mean? If you're at a steakhouse, for instance, tons of things you can order at steakhouses that you can, you can get a pretty good idea of. And sometimes even I've like checked on my, on, on calorie King, for instance, like if there's calamari, for instance, well, calamari is, yeah, it's okay. It's, it's fried and battered squid, but it doesn't change the, unless there's like some high calorie sauce with it. Usually it's marinara sauce or something sweet. You can find some numbers on that online just so you can have an idea. That's what I do. If I just want to make sure I don't grossly overeat, I'm not trying to hit an exact number, sometimes I'll do that. I'll check certain things and just maybe round up or something like that. So yeah, those are some just general kind of tips

that I recommend in terms of flexible dieting, how you can get into it and then see that it works and then start changing with it and start playing with it. All right. So the next question here is from Gary from South Korea. And he says that, hey, Mike, a lot of confusion out there about this, myself included. If I do a 16 to 20 minute Tabata session, I might actually not be pronouncing that correctly. Hit high intensity interval. After a BLS lifting session, am I killing gains or affecting muscle growth? If so, are there ways to combat this, such as eating extra?

It's a good question. It's something I get asked fairly often. I'm going to be actually addressing this a bit more. I address it in Bigger, Leaner, Stronger, but in the second edition, which is going to be out in about a month, sometime in December, I'm going to be addressing this even more. And here's the thing. There is the research that I cite in the book and the explanations of why combining strength and cardio is not the best idea and kind of impairs your gains on both fronts because it sends mixed messages on a cellular level. This is most seen in CrossFit style lifting where, you know, you're really combining your weightlifting or turning your weightlifting into a cardio workout, so that is not ideal for improving strength or cardiovascular, uh,

performance or capacity. Um, but it does apply also to if you're weightlifting and then doing cardio right after. However, in working with a lot of people, I can say that, um, there are quite a few people that due to, you know, there's life obligations. They can't necessarily get to a gym twice a day, or they don't, um, they're not able to do their cardio at home. Uh, which by the way, I mean, if you're in that position where you don't want to go to the gym twice a day, you know, wants to lift and wants to do cardio, I understand I'm the same way. I wouldn't want to drive to the gyms to do cardio. Um, you could look at getting like a recumbent bike and just sticking it in your garage. I live in a condo building in the gym and the condo building has some weight, some dumbbells up to like 50 pounds and some

machines and stuff, which I don't care about, but it has a recumbent bike. So I'll just go upstairs and, you know, do my cardio there. But if I had a house, I would definitely, I would just have a recumbent bike probably sticking in the garage and that'd be it. So it's an easy way to do cardio, or you can just go outside. You can do sprints outside. You can do sprints on a bike, just riding a bike. I like to recumbent though just because I can bring my iPad. I can read or watch a TV show or something and the time just kind of flies by. Rowing machines are good as well. It's another good form of cardio. But if none of that's possible, then you can do your cardio after weightlifting.

Like I said, I've worked with a lot of guys now and a lot of girls as well that do this and don't seem to have any trouble. They continue to make gains. They do all right. What some of them like to do is they like to just drink. They'll lift and then just have like a scoop of whey protein

and then do their cardio just in case. It can help, which it may. I don't know of any research. I mean, it's such a kind of specialized situation. I don't think there's any research out there to really kind of even lend some insight into that, but it may help. But the point is, especially because if you're doing high-intensity interval cardio where it's already a bit more muscle protective protective and I'll link an article down below, which, uh, explains why that is, um, relates, relates mainly to hormones. And then also to the fact that, especially if you're biking or rowing, you're using muscles in a similar way that you would

use them in your weightlifting. Uh, and, and that helps just preserve muscle and strength through doing cardio. So if you're doing 20, 25 minutes of high intensity interval cardio, that's very different than, you know, weightlifting and then going and jogging for six miles or something like that. The former, or sorry, the latter going out for a long run or something like that after weight lifting would not be a good idea, but the, the shorter 20, 25 minute, maybe 30 minutes max bout of high intensity interval cardio after weightlifting doesn't seem to get in the way of anything. So ideally, ideally, you'd separate those workouts. And that's, again, that's kind of looking at it theoretically. It's hard to say exactly.

I mean, obviously, you can't compare. I don't have, you know, some controlled study where one, you know, this group of people are separating their workouts and this group of people are doing their, their hit cardio after their weightlifting. But I have worked with a lot of people and I know that doing the cardio after the weightlifting doesn't, it's not a game breaker. Um, ideally though, you'd separate the, the, the, the workouts. Okay. Now, so let's get to the next question here. This is from Anna from Brazil, and she asked why women should train in the 8-10 rep range instead of the 4-6 rep range. That's a good question. I get asked that very often. If you're not familiar with what she's

talking about, she's referring to my book Thinner Leaner Stronger, in which I recommend that women train in the 8-10 rep range versus my book Bigger Leaner Stronger for men, in which I recommend that guys train in the 4 to six rep range. And there are a couple of reasons for this. One is that after working with a lot of women, especially if they're new to weightlifting, I find that one, they're a little bit intimidated in the beginning, which I understand most guys are too. But two, they are very weak when it comes to proper weightlifting. So sure, a lot of women, they'll do things with

dumbbells and do bodyweight stuff and that's cool. But if they're supposed to now push a barbell, whether it's a bench press or push it above their head, 45 pounds, that now is a whole nother thing. Most women that I've worked with, they start with dumbbells because the barbell is even too much. Um, and so they're working with dumbbells just to kind of work in the eight to 10 rep range. And then that feels very heavy to them because many, many women are used to doing very high rep training, you know, 20, 30 rep type stuff. Cause that's what's pushed in a lot of magazines. Um, so even starting in the eight to 10 rep range is feels very heavy and it can be a bit intimidating. So starting in this four to six rep range, we're using about 80 to 85% of your one rep

max. I mean that I've had women try it and, and they were very uncomfortable with it and then went back to the eight to 10 rep range to get used to that. So yeah, that's, that's the, that's the first reason. The second reason is, um, with certain lifts like the deadlift and the squat and the bench press and the military press, they're very form reliant and they're great exercises, but you have to do them correctly. And if you do them incorrectly, you can get hurt. Um, or if even maybe I injuries are kind of uncommon, but you can strain things. Um, you can, you know, aggravate things, you can aggravate tendons. Um, and it's, it's just no fun. You want to, you want to, you know, push heavyweight,

pull heavyweight, squat heavyweight, but you want to make sure that you're doing it correctly. So you don't, uh, you know, put yourself, set yourself back and the heavier you go, the more likely you are to let your form go out. And the more likely you are to let your form go out and the more likely you are to maybe round your back too much on a deadlift and piss it off or bow your knees in on your squat when you're ascending and piss something off there or whatever. ever. And, uh, so what I find with, with many women is, um, while men can start out with heavier four to six rep 80, 85% of your one rep max and, and get shown the form and do pretty well, you know, they come into the game much, much stronger than, than women do. So I find that, um, women new to weightlifting find it much harder to maintain proper form when they start with very heavy weights as opposed to less heavy weights. Now, 8 to 10 rep range is not light. It's just not very heavy. And even that, like I said, many women struggle in the beginning to kind of get their form in the 8 to 10 rep range and really keep it in. But then, you know, after a few months,

everything's good and they're rolling, and that's not a problem. And then the last reason why relates to muscle recovery. Women's bodies can't recover from muscle damage caused by weightlifting nearly as well as guys' bodies can, simply because there's such a difference in testosterone levels. Women's bodies have about a tenth of the testosterone on average as men's bodies, about a tenth of the testosterone on average as men's bodies. And testosterone, hormonally speaking, is the primary anabolic driver of muscle growth and muscle recovery. The more testosterone you have in your body,

the faster your muscles are going to recover and the stronger they're going to be and the more you're going to gain in the gym. And that's, I guess, a simple way of looking at it, although you should know that it's worth noting that natural fluctuations in testosterone, which are small, are not going to make a big difference. For instance, if some guys at 500 NGDL test and some other guys at 600, their gains in terms of strength and size are going to be nearly identical. You're not going to see a difference there. their gains in terms of strength and size are going to be nearly identical. You're not going to see a difference there. But if a guy's at 500 and another guy's at 1,100 or 1,000 or whatever,

there's going to be a difference. It's not necessarily going to be, oh, night and day, like this one dude looks like a massive roid beast and the other dude just looks like a skinny, fat weakling. But the dude at 1,000, the guy at 1,000 NGDL will make gains faster and will be able, like he would be able to train more frequently. He'd be able to train with a higher weekly volume and so forth. So bringing it back to women, it's a recovery thing in the beginning. Women's bodies probably could do fine with some four to six rep training, but I wouldn't recommend all of the training or the majority of the training in the four to six

rep range, like in bigger, leaner, stronger, or in, in the program, the advanced program of bigger, leaner, stronger, which is beyond bigger, leaner, stronger. That includes some heavy, heavy two to three rep, like powerlifting type stuff. And again, women can do this, but not on the program that is laid out for men because it's simply too much for their bodies. And they will end up over training after a period of time. So with all that said, what I find works well and something I'm going to be including in the second edition of Thinner Leaner Stronger, which I'm almost done with. Well, I'm done with my part of it. It's being typeset and it's being all put together now. Um, and that is that once women are acclimated with the eight to 10 rep range,

and they've built a foundation of strength and muscle, they then can benefit from the inclusion of some heavier weightlifting. And I've worked with a lot of women now that we've worked to this point where they started, you know, they had trouble, you know, in the beginning, even lifting the bar, let's say, or pressing the bar. And now they're, they're bench pressing 85 pounds or whatever it is. And they've, they've, uh, they really have their form down and they want to take their training to the next level. We then include three sets of four to six rep training in each of their workouts and starting their workouts with the heavy, heavy, uh, and, and using compound exercises like, you know, they're going to start their, their chest

training or their push training with, um, like three sets of four to six rep bench press or, or if it's shoulders, uh, then it'd be like three sets of four to six rep military presses pulling her back. It'd be three, three, uh three sets of four to six rep deadlifts. Legs would be squats, of course. And that works very well. Again, I've worked with quite a few women that have been able to break through plateaus of after a year or so of working in the 8-10 rep range, very happy with how their body has changed, but trouble taking it to the next level, including some heavier weightlifting has really, really helped them. So I'm going to be, I'm going to be talking more about this in the book and how to, how to work it in. But I thought I'd just throw that out there just in case, you know,

if you're listening and you're a woman in that situation where you feel like you could be doing more about how to do it, that's how I recommend it. All right. So those are the three questions I want to cover in today's podcast. And if you want to submit questions or if you want to go vote on other people's questions for the next time I do it, you know, this Q&A style of podcast, then just go to the Google moderator page, which is linked down below. And as you'll see, it works kind of like, it works like Reddit. Basically, you have a bunch of questions and you can say, this is a good question or this is a bad question. And then you can submit your own questions and other people can rate them.

And so then I can just go down them, pick out popular questions. I try to pick out ones that I also get asked a fair amount myself. So it kind of has a broader appeal. And then I'll take them and I'll answer them. All right, thanks again. And I'll see you next time. Hey, it's Mike again. Hope you liked the podcast. If you did go ahead and subscribe. I put out new episodes every week or two where I talk about all kinds of things related to health and fitness and

general wellness. Also head over to my website at www.muscleforlife.com where you'll find not only past episodes of the podcast, but you'll also find a bunch of different articles that I've written. I release a new one almost every day, actually. I release kind of like four to six new articles a week. And you can also find my books and everything else that I'm involved in over at MuscleForLife.com. All right, thanks again. Bye.