My Brother, My Brother And Me - Feed Drop: Minority Korner
Episode Date: June 1, 2020Hey everyone! We don’t have a new MBMBaM for you today — instead, we’re doing a feed drop of Minority Korner. It’s a fantastic show on the Maximum Fun network that’s all about discussing cul...ture and news through an intersectional lens. We’re so appreciative that James allowed us to cross-post the latest episode from last Friday on our feed. This past weekend, we all witnessed a horrific escalation of police violence against protestors and Black folks across the country. We encourage everyone to not only seek out and support Black creators, artists and voices, but to find ways to support folks on the ground, either through bail funds or by providing direct support to frontline protestors. Subscribe to Minority Korner: https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/minority-korner/ Find a local bail fund to support: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/bail_funds_george_floyd Find more educational anti-racism resources: http://bit.ly/ANTIRACISMRESOURCES
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Hey everybody, this is Griffin, and I'm going to try and keep this brief.
As you probably guessed from the title of this episode, we don't have a NUMA BIM BIM
for you today.
Instead, we are doing a feed drop of another show on the Maximum Fun Network called Minority
Corner, which is all about discussing culture and news through an intersectional lens.
It's a great show, and we are really appreciative that James has allowed us to run the most
recent episode from last Friday here on our feed.
After talking it over, after the events of the past weekend, where we all witnessed a
horrific escalation of police violence against protesters and black folks across the country,
the thing that made the most sense for us to do is try and amplify black creators and
voices rather than try and seize the podium ourselves, which I hope this introduction
does not cross over into me actually doing.
Right now, we feel like it's our place to shut up and try and educate ourselves and
really try and listen to the voices of those who have been oppressed because there's no
amount of education that's going to allow the three of us to really understand what
that is truly like.
We wholeheartedly encourage you to listen to and subscribe to Minority Corner and really
just seek out and support black creators and artists while you also find ways to support
protesters on the ground, whether that is through bail funds or by directly donating
to frontline protesters who are in desperate need of supplies right now or providing any
other services you can.
There's no shortage of ways to help right now, so just try and find one.
And here is Minority Corner.
Thank you all very much and stay safe.
Welcome to Minority Corner, where we take an introspective look at the world through
an intersectional lens.
I'm James, he, him, his.
I'm a queer, political, actor, activist, comedian, cansarian, self-proclaimed, sexy
blurred.
That's a black nerd.
And each week, I'm joined in the corner by another fabulous minority where we tackle
the news, pop culture, politics, media, history, and more, all with a little self-care and self-love
sprinkled throughout.
This week, I'm joined by...
Hello, my name is Emerald Cajunier, with a K-right colleague.
I was born and raised in Miami.
I consider myself to be an animation commissois based here in New York City.
Love being from ukulele to animation, to improv and everything in between, and my pronouns
are she, her.
Well, we go from Karen to Karen, to a Karen this week.
So have you heard of social media chef, Allison Roman, while she seems to be dragging Chrissy
Teigen and Marie Kondo, while other Karen, Lana Del Rey, seems to be dragging a lot
of POC women in Ariana Grande.
What is going on?
A lot to unpack there.
So Joe Biden might not be a white woman, but that hasn't stopped him and his whiteness
from stepping in it.
So we also unpack her around the social media waves or the 48-hour news cycle.
And then we talk about why some might be outraged and some of us are just kind of shrugging
our shoulders.
Have you met Joe Biden?
Have you ever heard of the little rich black girl oil tycoon?
Well, I hadn't either until one of our listeners pointed me into the direction of Sarah Rector
and her essentially slavery to riches story.
And then finally stick around to the very end as I unpack the two latest incidents showcasing
America's racism that had two very different outcomes involving black men, but rooted in
the same racism.
The one involving Christian Cooper and the other and George Floyd and my call to action
about what you can do, what we all can do about it.
So this is a jam packed episode.
I'm so excited to share this with you.
Let's get into it.
All right, we're going to learn, laugh and play right here.
Six, five, six, seven, eight, two, one, a, bop, bop, bop, bop, do, do, do, do, do, bop.
You know, Admiral Deere, when we start singing to kick off the show, I feel like that's
true.
It really is.
There is no other way to kick off the show.
Is there something so?
Nope.
I'm excited to see, you know, no pressure, but I'm excited to see the jams we come up
with this go around.
Last time we had the hit clubbanger, Bad Bap.
So we'll, and then before that, we did a remake, a little shop.
Yes.
I was thinking about that little shop remake, like as in preparing for this.
And I was like, it was just gold.
It was just gold.
Golded.
It was golden.
Okay.
There's been some feuds going down that I would love to address with you.
Yes.
Oh my goodness.
Not like it's a feud between you and me.
So let me just, I feel like that came out.
But there, but there is a feud between you and I.
We are fighting.
Oh, it's, it's brewing.
It's like levels.
It is, it is levels.
So there's this woman who I didn't know who she was until she came for
Chrissy Teigen and Alison Roman.
Her name is Alison Roman.
Oh wait, no, I'm sorry.
So this woman, so she came for Chrissy Teigen and Marie Kondo.
Her name is Alison Roman.
She's some sort of like social media, like DIY, sort of, you know,
I cook and make things sort of person.
And in a recent interview profiled by the new consumer, she pretty much slammed
she pretty much slammed Chrissy Teigen and Marie Kondo saying that like
that they're pretty much calling out there, that they're not authentic.
She said, like, what Chrissy Teigen done is so crazy to me.
She had a successful cookbook and then it was like, boom, line at target, boom.
Now she has the Instagram page that holds her over a million followers,
where it's just like people running a content farm for her.
That horrifies me and it's not something I ever want to do.
I don't aspire to do that, but like, who's laughing now because she's
making a ton of fucking money.
My goodness.
There's insane bananas for her to come for the most wholesome people.
You picked the wrong targets.
Like, yeah, it's weird that you came for the people that you just want to hug.
Marie Kondo, who literally is just one of the sweetest people in the entire world.
And Chrissy Teigen, who just is wonderful and just trolls Trump and we love her for that.
Like, you know.
And they're both like two women who provide, who are just like amazing
characters alone, regardless of their craft, right?
Like Chrissy Teigen is a super wholesome, Marie Kondo is like super wholesome.
And then they do awesome things that they're being recognized for in a very
like true way, like they are both authentic people.
Chrissy Teigen has always been that way.
You know, it's just like, like heightening her strengths and her personalities.
And for this woman and kind of like, amazing facial reactions when people
do crazy things at award shows, like Chrissy Teigen face is classic.
It should be its own emoji of like, there is an emoji designed after that.
It's that yellow one with the like, that's the Chrissy Teigen.
It's so true.
It's so true.
She's really shows the long corner.
Well, I mean, you could go after like one of the go after Kylie Jenner or
something, no one got her a Kardashian like that would have been a safer bet.
We would have been like, okay, whatever.
She went for like the sweetest and also to like women of color.
And Chrissy Teigen was hurt about it.
She goes, this is a huge bummer and hit me hard.
I have made her recipes for years now, bought the cookbook, supported her on social
media and praised her in interviews.
And then I even signed on to executive produce the very show she talks
about doing in this article.
Why are you biting the hand that feeds you?
Oh my goodness.
I did not know that aspect of it.
That's the Nana's.
I cannot believe that she just essentially dug herself in the deepest hole ever.
Like, why would you say something like that after somebody supported her for so long?
And just speak to her wholesomeness and sweetness that she's like, oh my God,
love this woman.
She's doing great things.
Let me buy her cookbook.
Let me cook her recipes.
Insane.
Yes.
Well, the drama unfolds.
So then Alison Roman, she, her first apology was not apology.
It was terrible.
Crash and burn.
She tweets when women bully other women for being honest about money and how
much they do or do not make.
Well, that's a moray.
And then she goes on to say, just wishing someone, just wishing I had someone to
hold my hand during baby's first internet backlash.
She said that.
Alison Roman, who is this woman?
Yeah, she also goes on like, you know, being a woman who takes down other
women is absolutely not my thing, but I don't think it's yours either.
I hope we can meet one day.
I think we probably get along.
So she's just scratching and burning and like, Chris,
you're going to try to take you down at all.
And she did eventually, like I think she finally hired a publicist because she
then tweeted out and wrote like a really long letter of saying, essentially
saying that like she's owned every aspect of her shit.
She's like, I was wrong.
I need to really educate myself.
It was also really wrong for me to also target two, you know, POC women who
have a different struggle and journey from me.
She messed up.
She said that she's learning.
She heard what everyone was saying and is working on being a better listener.
So she then wrote like a much better detailed one.
That just goes to show like, yeah, girl, you need a publicist.
Like, yeah, if you're going to come at basic angels of the game, you need
a whole army, like a publicist, everything.
Don't come for them.
That is just insane.
It's just so insane to me that like, because you, it's, it clearly came from
envy, I feel like, like she potentially was like, wow, I am trying to navigate
this like specific corner of the market and trying to get ads and trying to get
sponsorships.
And she probably one day was just like walking through a target, trying to buy
some candles, and so Chrisy, he gives him an amazing base on a pan or a
skillet, and it's the only way that she knew how to react.
And in that case, you need to look inside of yourself because it's like, you
know, like that is just what you could aspire to be.
You know, that's how you're supposed to look at that.
Well, and I think that there's just like, I think she got really too big for her
bridges.
She, I mean, this is like a really big interview for her.
She has, I think, just this new TV show that's coming out.
And I think she just got just a little too loose lipped, you know, like she
just was just shooting the shit and thought, and, but I think it speaks to
something like you were saying that is intrinsically deep inside of her and
speaks to the jealousy and sort of insecurity that she had to knock these
other women down.
And again, that people are pointing out knocking in these like women of color
down who are going to have to work twice as hard to even get like where she is
and what she has.
And I appreciate that she acknowledges that, but it's like that was deep inside
of her. That was an ugly that was like ready to come out the minute someone was
like listening and it just, yeah.
And I appreciate like her like eventually coming around to apologies.
And I always want to give people like space and grace to apologize because we
the pitchfork nation, you know, everyone's ready to be angry.
Everyone's looking at her used to be outraged these days.
And I also want to make sure I give the space for like when we're like, they
need to change to apologize.
And so she is, but, you know, statistically, it takes five positive
things to outbalance the negative.
And when I first read her, the last latest apology, I was like, okay, all
right, I'm willing to give it grace.
But honestly, every time I see her name still, I still cringe.
So she still has like at least four more positive things I need to say before I
can, I mean, I wasn't going to buy her stuff before because it's, I don't really,
it's not my lane, but definitely I'm not now.
She could be selling a cast iron skillet made from the gods.
And I wouldn't give her a coin or the, I'm sorry.
What does Chrissy Teigen make?
And thank you.
Oh, speaking of women who are taking other women down, let's just
move from one Karen to the next.
Lana Del Rey also got into the game of like trying to take down other women.
So Lana Del Rey essentially like came after Cardi B, Nicki Minaj.
Beyonce, Dorja Cat, Camila, all these like women of color and plus Ariana Grande.
I had to separate Ariana Grande because we forget that like, she's just Italian.
She's Italian girl.
So don't let that Spanish last name fool you.
Or is it Italian?
I was fooled.
I was as well.
Anyway, see, yeah.
So she essentially was like slamming these women who were like saying like,
oh, they're not feminists, women who look and act like me, the kind of women
who says no, but men here, yes, the kind of women who are saluted mercilessly
for being their authentic, delicate selves.
She goes on.
She's like, pretty much, you know, talks about how they, you know, are being
so, you know, sexual to sell their music.
And that's just like, you know, not her style and what she's, you know, doing.
And so obviously like everyone came after her for that.
But I just don't understand this continue.
I don't know.
Like, I feel like the media always already does such a thing of pitting women
against other women that like, and she also just recently made a song with
Ariana Grande for the Charlie's Angels soundtrack.
So it's like Lana Del Rey.
Oh, I didn't know that was her Miley Cyrus.
And I mean, she seemed out of place, but yeah, it was the three of them.
Miley, Ariana and Lana Del Rey.
So fascinating.
But also, like, yeah, this kind of trend of it seems like in every corner,
like Allison and Lana coming for women of color is just like, it's kind of insane
because, and I can also speak from experience saying that, like, at the end
of each day, no matter what you're doing or what you're pursuing or what your
career is in any market in any industry, I can assure you that, like, at the end
of my day, I'm returning home maybe five times more mentally exhausted because
of the food that you have to jump through and the things that you have to navigate.
Right.
And even becoming like recognized in anyone given industry or field.
So I think that the outrageous is the backlash, right?
And the, like, grouping together of Lana and Allison is correct because it's
like just actually don't just before you do it, stop, look in the mirror,
breathe, recognize and then just stop.
Don't even do it.
Right.
And, you know, she also made it up.
I mean, the people that she pointed out, aside from, like, you know,
Ariana Grande, again, it's so weird that she's going into this because she
literally was just naming, you know, black women and Camila from Fifth Harmony.
And like, you know, she's specifically, it seems like attacking R&B and hip hop,
you know, urban styles of music.
Didn't mention like a Katy Perry, a Gaga, a Taylor Swift, like any of these Selena
Gomez, like a Miley Cyrus, like these women who have been overtly sort of sexual.
Like she seems like she's so it just, I think that again, it speaks to something
that there's inherent bias inside of these women.
Yeah, there absolutely is.
And it's just extremely sad and disappointing that, like, I mean, again, kind
of the same conversation with Allison, the same thing, the same rules apply
with Lana where it's like, yeah, you're in this field and in this industry.
And like, don't sexualize black women or like frame them or blame them.
So being sexual, right?
Like, don't do that because that's a narrative that they I'm sure have had
to cite in their own respects.
And whether they choose to express that in their art or not is up to them
and how they want to express their art, right?
But like, that is not, that is not a dig or a negative, you know, nothing
to be blasting, really weird.
And there's been, there's like the black women have this double dichotomy
where they're either over sexualized or desexualized.
So you either have like the Mammy or the Jezebel and even going back to
like, you know, the Venus hot and hot, like just women like, ooh,
they're big butts and they're big, you know, ooh, they're so.
And so that's already sort of a thing.
And she just, you know, played into it.
So I look forward to her non-apology and then hopefully her
publicist will help her like draft a better letter.
Hopefully, hopefully.
And then speaking of black women being sexualized.
We can look forward to, there's a, on TikTok, there's a lot of that.
What's going on on TikTok?
I don't take talk.
I am going to be late to the party.
I just can't, like it took me forever to even get onto the Instagram.
And I just, I, I was an early adopter into Facebook and that was like the only one.
I think I just have been burned so hard by like Friendster and LiveJournal
in my space that I just, it gets exhausting.
Yeah, you're so right.
It was definitely, so I actually didn't come on to the tick.
I just pulled up to the TikTok feed until COVID-19 happened.
And I need it to do.
Right.
It's just like, it's the last resort.
And it's really fast.
It is fascinating.
Kind of like the disconnect with TikTok, with the current generation
and millennials who, millennials are like, I don't know, that's just like
whatever that's your corner, you can do whatever you're doing.
And the current generation is just like, okay, cool.
This is us.
Let's do it.
And there's actually some gold on there.
And there's actually some really fun stuff.
And we were just talking about kind of like the sexualization of black women.
Right.
And you made such a good point where you were like, yeah, there's both ends of it.
There's like over-sexualizing.
And then there's also like the other aspects, like that falls under in a manly umbrella.
Right.
Like you, we can't see you as a sexual figure.
You just take care of us.
You're Oprah.
Exactly.
You're just Oprah.
That's who you are.
And so, but on TikTok, fascinatingly enough, this narrative has, has been like
reborn in a way that black TikTokers, young black women will get on TikTok.
And TikTok is essentially used for a lot of different things, but one really
popular trend is dances, right?
TikTok dances are easy to learn.
You practice it for like, I don't know, a few hours in a day.
By the end of the day, you master, you make a video of it, it goes up.
It's just cool.
And a lot of these dances are choreographed and made up from young black women.
And then it takes light.
It starts to trend and white women start doing the dances and in their own little way.
And it blows up and TikTok has this interesting feature where you can track
down the original sound and a lot of the trending dances that are on TikTok.
When you track down the original sound are from those creators, right?
From the black creators and they have less, like less visibility.
And then it goes even further because sometimes black TikTokers are
expressing themselves in dancing, we'll get blocked or filtered through the TikTok app.
So like editors are going through and being like, too sexual.
But it's like, it's proven, it's proven.
And it's such a fascinating intersection, right?
Because this generation has figured out algorithms.
They know this.
We learned about it, you know, eventually, maybe like halfway through our Facebook
lifetime, but they already know this.
So they are playing with it and they're like, wow, this algorithm is really
only putting forth white women dancing.
Let's see what happens when I as a black woman get on here and dance.
Nope. It doesn't come up on people's feet.
I got a lot of face.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
Kind of insane.
And I, you know, we, oh, man, I guess, you know, I don't know who is to blame.
Is it us for their perpetuating the same things?
Like, I think everyone's always like, oh, this generated the next generation.
They're, you know, so far ahead.
This is a great example of like, nope, they still, there's still work.
The future generation is going to have some work to do as well.
Absolutely.
But that's the thing is that these biases are just so intrinsically there.
This is infuriating.
And even more the reason why I am not going on TikTok.
Thank you for persuading me that I am right.
And yeah, the people who are on TikTok though,
there was a hashtag Blackout 2020 that was created by Britney Spears
for her album, Blackout.
Basically, she's burning down Jim and biases.
Oh, my God.
Thank you for bringing that up.
Listen, I.
I am part of the Britney army.
Like she captured my like whoever the artist is that captured her heart
at the age of 13, they can do no wrong.
You will love them forever.
And she got me and I know.
I, I'm just biased.
Like I have Britney blinders, like, but I have to like following her
on Instagram has been so painful.
Sometimes I'm like, I want to see what's going on in her life.
And it's better for me not to.
Just hold on to the nostalgia.
She I literally wanted using my Chrissy Teigen face, watching her video,
like, like, you know, completely unfiltered.
I am concerned about her wellbeing.
She burned down her home gym and posted about it.
Cause it's like to work out with can like with candles nearby.
And I'm just concerned.
I'm so concerned because there was like this thing that like she had maybe
had another mental breakdown.
And then that's why she had canceled her Vegas tour.
It was this hashtag free Britney thing.
And they said that her dad was sick and that's why she disappeared.
But there were rumors of otherwise, like she's still in a conservatorship.
Anyways, sorry to digress.
That's the point.
My goodness.
I'm concerned.
I'm concerned as well.
I'm so with you.
I'm a hardcore Britney person.
I have her CDs as a kid and we just constantly was like, listen to it.
I'm repeat.
I would rewind the thing, like everything.
And yeah, I'm following her now.
I'm like, Oh, Britney.
It's literally just Chrissy Teigen.
Cause you, you don't want like your heart can't get like, you can't admit
like maybe what's like happening.
You're just like, Oh, Britney.
Maybe go put that in the camera.
There's just a lot of her like twirling in a dress.
Yeah.
Have you seen her man?
Oh, her man is like hot.
So like, I'm following him on Instagram too.
Oh, you do?
That's so funny.
I mean, so hot.
And yes, she just constantly is like twirling around like, got this new piece
and I'm like, ooh, she just spins so many circles so fast.
I'm like, are you okay?
And sometimes like, I mean, I, you know, I just feel my heart goes out.
I, I, cause I just said, she, I don't know.
Something just doesn't seem right.
And I just want to give her a hug and just, cause there was a psychologist
who said that someone who had the mental breakdown that she had should not be in
the line of work that she is in.
And you know, I have all these people who are just trying to like, you know,
make money off of her.
And I'm sure she loves like Dan to perform.
So, but it's like, she just needs to, I love her.
So I can't say anything bad about her.
So anyways, back to Alice and Erlana.
I know.
Oh, have you, okay.
So you're living in, sorry, have you been using like, you know, we're in the
age of Corona, are you like ordering out a lot?
Cause I might have a recommendation if you like pizza.
Yes, please.
Would you like to order from Pesquales, pizza and wings?
That sounds delicious.
Great.
So I'm going to send you the link.
And when you start eating it, it might remind you of like, oh my God,
this actually tastes like Chuck E. Cheese pizza.
That's because it is.
So if you have been, yes, have you have been, um, if you, if you've been
ordering on Grubhub, um, or things like that and have like, oh, look at this.
I want to support local businesses and you order from Pesquales, pizza and wings.
It's just going to be Chuck E. Cheese, feet, tasting pizza.
Like they have been putting on a fake name.
And I think Applebee's has been doing this as well.
They got my goodness scam.
What is that?
What's going on with Chuck E. Cheese and the squallies?
They're the same thing.
Exactly.
What is happening?
That is what's happening.
Um, that is truly awful.
And then I forget there was reading somewhere where they were trying to spin
it as like, well, you know, the origin behind Chuck E.
Cheese.
Well, the creator, he never had a birthday party.
He was an orphan and he never had a birthday party.
So he wanted to be able to create a space where children could have their
birthday parties.
And then it was discovered that that's just the bio of like Chuck E.
Cheese, whose little name is entertainment.
It was literally the plot of like Ratatouille.
He was like, never, it was an orphan.
Was hanging out at Pesquale.
It was Squally's restaurant and like he could like dance and sing.
So then they were like, let's create a restaurant for you.
And then he got too nervous to perform.
But then he saw these kids, like there was their birthday and he got like the
strength.
So someone like caught up and like that was like, wait a minute.
That's just the bio of Chuck E.
Cheese because they tried to get you the heart strings to like.
I've seen this bio doc before while I was in the ball pit and
playing on the screen.
Yeah, because even my heart was like, OK, well, they have got a cute
origin story. Wait a minute.
So I won't be ordering from Pesquale's season range.
No need to.
OK, so not to bring it down a notch, but we're going to bring it down a notch.
So let's go into our election 2020 corner.
Yeah, to vote in for tomorrow to save your life.
All right.
So the presumptive nominee, Joseph Gordon, love it, Biden.
And that's a good day.
But I'll go with that.
Give us some edge.
So I feel like it's OK.
So Joe Biden, this will surprise no one, made a gaffe recently and stepped in it.
So he put it, got put his foot in his mouth.
So he was had an interview with, I believe,
Charlemagne from the Black Breakfast Club and he's, you know,
making the rounds, doing his thing.
And at the very tail end, he's in a rush trying to get off
because the lovely Dr. Jill Biden, who just pause in the moment,
just think that we could have First Lady Dr. Jill Biden.
Like, doesn't that just she probably will still be teaching?
Like she's a professor at like a community college.
She'll probably still go do that.
Just refreshing, you know.
Anyways, she needed to do an interview.
He's trying.
He needs to wrap up and and he at the very end,
he makes what was a joke.
He's like, well, essentially, he says, you know, if you're having questions
about who to vote for, like, you know, you're not black or like, if you vote
for Trump, like, you're not black.
So that's what he says.
And then, like, I think it's like, you know, black campaign stuff.
I was like, OK, we got to go.
And then he cut off.
How outrageous of him.
Ridiculous social media is up in a tirade.
So your thoughts about it.
I am fully floored, but it also doesn't surprise me that he would say
something like that because he's just in Biden.
I'm also like, is this the first time people are meeting Joe Biden?
Like, I know I'm I already mentally prepared myself when he became
the presidential nominee.
I was like, OK, there's going to be a lot of gaps.
He's going to put his foot in his mouth a lot.
Like, this is the part for the course.
Exactly. It's it's your typical case.
Yeah. One, first, first and foremost, it does not shock me, too.
I think it's your if you're it's your typical case of that's hilarious.
My friend, black, I'm not racist.
That is just that coming out of the inside of him.
And I think that, yeah, just doesn't shock me.
I think that we can look forward to a lot more of those because he's like,
hey, Obama, you got my back, right?
Meanwhile, Obama's like, crispy tea, give me.
OK, Joe, we need to talk.
But here's you know, I think the thing that has bothered me about this
is just like the extreme outrage that I have seen.
And mostly for if there's a black person who's upset about it,
I will totally like let's have a conversation and sit and talk to you about it.
But like I'm saying like white people about upset about it.
I'm like, where's your outrage for like Flint, Michigan still doesn't have
like, you know, drink good drinking water, like, you know, all of like
the unarmed shootings that we've been seeing.
I have not seen your outrage from it.
Like I feel like I'm mostly seeing people who are still
like not accepting that this is the presumption not nominee.
At the end of the day, Trump or Biden are going to be the President of the United States.
That's it. There's no amount of magical thinking
that's going to be able to make it happen otherwise.
Like there's this is it.
Like you're there's nothing we're in the middle of a pandemic.
There's nothing else that's going to, you know, there's no way.
There's just it's not going to happen.
I love hope and dreams as much of the next person.
But there's so much on the line that we just, you know, don't have time.
And I guess like I just like it's exhausting
because it's like we need to come together.
And I know it doesn't make it easier when Joe Biden does this sort of thing.
But at the same time, it's like I have to say he actually is right.
Like any queer person or a black person who votes for Trump,
we need to have a conversation because your card is about to be revoked.
What he said, I would say is true.
Is he the right person to be able to say it?
No, should we say that?
No, I feel like it's something that maybe one of his staffers
had like maybe mentioned or said and joked around about.
And I think he got too comfortable and repeated a joke
that was for at the cookout only.
Exactly.
He should have passed like very subtly
flipped it over to Charlemagne and said, hey, you just say this,
you know, say this at the end of the at the end of the session.
If you don't mind, you know, and then maybe like, OK, cool.
I mean, I guess you have a point.
But right to come out of his mouth is like just.
It was not the right.
Not very new. I think here's a and I think I will give Joe Biden this.
Like he does stop in it, but he does he look like he will learn as he goes.
Like I have been really impressed with like the campaign that he is creating.
Like there's been a seat at the table for everybody.
Like him and Bernie Sanders have been collaborating on making policies.
He almost said Ariana Huffington.
I'm sure she's about to.
But I meant Alexandra Ocasio-Cartez.
She is on the Climate Change Task Force.
Like he's collaborating with Elizabeth Warren.
You know, Kamala Harris has been doing stuff like everyone.
He's really creating this adventure style dream team.
And I think like I think people I hope that they move past their own
hurt feelings and ego of having their specific candidate win.
Because if you're really about the movement, it's not about a specific person.
It's about the policies and the movement and mainly first and foremost,
stopping Trump from having another term
that we might never ever recover from, you know, so.
And she's also made me think too.
It's like you all don't think that like Martin Luther King, Jr.
had to like roll his eyes a few times when Lyndon B. Johnson from Texas.
Probably dropped was a little too vigorous, a little too, you know,
I free with the N word, I'm sure.
And he's like, roll his eyes, shake his hand and work with this white man.
Because at the end of the day,
Goldwater would have been ten times worse and had folks back on a plantation.
So I black people are very thick skinned.
Like we have been through a lot worse.
This is not a sit in.
This is not the Montgomery Bridge, you know, massacre.
This is not us being hoes.
Like we've been seeing a lot of white people essentially be like,
well, there goes the black vote.
Like, OK, you don't, you don't.
And that's what made me most uncomfortable is white people
having all this outrage and speaking out for it, where it's like,
I appreciate your ally ship, but I think on this one,
just we'll have the conversation like.
Yeah, just let us kind of shift through it and figure out, you know,
because it's really not, it really doesn't have anything to do with you.
And I feel like that's a constant kind of thing with these things,
where it's like, oh, and it's our turn to speak, too.
Because if you didn't hear them, this is what they said.
And it's like, I actually need to do that if you could kind of have a seat.
Yep. I'm processing it on my own.
I'm talking amongst my own community.
Like you just remember being an ally means being the intern.
You're just there to listen and get the coffee.
Like, yeah, I think it's a coffee.
I love that analogy. It's so very true.
So that's that.
Like, yeah, Joe Biden steps in it and today is the day that ends and why.
Like, yes, that's what happened.
And I think that whole hopefully, you know, move forward and, you know,
stick away from the jokes.
I think, oh, here's what really upsets me.
The interview was actually really amazing.
And once again, we're not talking about the substance of what he talked about.
He talked about criminal justice reform.
He talked about, you know, prisoner reentry programs, like, you know,
when folks leave the prison, there's not a system to help them out.
Decriminalizing marijuana.
Like these list of things that disproportionately affect black people.
He addressed, like Charlamagne asked him about his vote on the crime bill.
And he addressed that.
And at the same time, like in the 90s, everyone in their mom was for the crime
bill, like even my mom was for the crime bill, because it was a scary time.
We were trying to figure out what was happening, not looking at like that.
You know, government practices had, you know, created this crime amongst
that was happening, you know, in the black community that was then they were
then vilified and jailed for it.
But it was a really, really good,
substantive conversation and debate.
And here we are talking about this little thing that happened at the last 10 seconds
and learning and growing moment and mistake by Joe Biden, human being,
who's an old white man who's doing his best.
And we're not talking about the substantive issues.
And so I just like, it frustrates me because we as American
participants have to do better.
I like saw that I read the, I read what the gaffe was.
I was like, Oh, no.
And then I watched the full interview and I was like, Oh, wait a minute.
We need to do our job.
You know?
Yeah, this is very true.
This is true.
I'm going to go and listen to it because obviously my biggest takeaway is that
headline, like my biggest takeaway is my drop.
And you're right.
So unfortunate because what he did in that moment, you're right,
we didn't need to do better, but also like what he did in that moment was
kind of threw that all in the trash because like, who's going to then go?
Like, yeah.
And like, let me just do my due diligence and like listen to the whole interview.
Nobody, I will, because you let me know that he's actually talking
about important things, but yeah, he didn't just go on there and be like, Hey,
Solomon, you know what, you've been all this black people, better vote for me.
Cause otherwise you ain't black.
And then he laughed like it wasn't my job.
I did not go on and like say that.
It was just that last thing.
And I think the media needs to do a better job.
What frustrates me, Emerald, is like, have we learned nothing from 2016?
This is, I don't want another but her emails, Ben Ghaz and like it's frustrating
because it's like the same intentions not being played onto.
I forget some, the, some sort of equation of like just the, the, the Trump
administration's failure in terms of Corona virus is the equivalent to like, I
don't have the exact number in front of me, but I did the math, but it's something
to the equivalent of like 220,000 Benghazis or something.
The amount of people that have died or, you know, like, and we're not like, will
there be a trial for the Trump administration and all those people?
And like, there's not, I just sometimes in the media's effort to try to be fair
and balanced, they just focus on like the wrong thing.
So I don't want to play into that trap.
It only benefits Russia and the Republicans.
So sure.
Wow.
I feel like we hammered that out.
Should we jump into our first quarter?
Let's do it.
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OK, history corner, minority corner, history time.
I'm real, let's get into our time machine and go back in time.
The time when there was a little rich black girl.
No, I don't.
That's why we're here.
I want to give a special shout out to a minority corner listener at
Gen five, say I'm on because they put this into my lap and I had to go
research full on of who this person was, not the minority corner listener,
but the first that they tweeted at me about to be like, Hey, did you know
about Sarah Rector, who was this little, the center just dubbed the little
rich black girl of the early 20th century?
So I was like, wait, what?
Who is so also to just to show that minority corner takes a village?
You know, you all give us the leads and we go further investigate and report on.
So she was a multimillionaire,
millionaire oil baron at just 12 years old.
What? Yeah, that's so young.
I know in in your mind, you're thinking, like, what have I done with my life?
I know.
Yes.
So and again, too, this is like, this happens a lot on minority corners.
So expect I'm going to put this, I'm going to put this out to the universe now.
Get ready for either a Netflix series or movie to be made about this girl,
because this happens every time on minority corner when we talk about
like someone, then a series or movie comes out.
This happened about like the ladies of Hibbiden figures, Madam C.J.
Walker. So get ready for her story.
They're ready for your film.
And in your mind, I want you to go ahead and start like stunt casting,
who you would put this as.
So she was born to Joseph and Rose Rector on March 3rd, 1902,
which is a time period I would not like to go to ever.
So I'll make this fast.
I know right now we're time traveling, so we'll get in, we'll get out.
Sounds like a terrible time, which also to just sort of talk about, like,
I just I feel like sometimes like, like, sorry to go back to the Joe Biden thing,
but I'm just like, some of us would not have made it during civil rights or
like, you know, slavery of like, this is what's breaking our vote for Joe Biden.
And like, we would not have made it.
No, we would have been way too sensitive and soft.
Oh, my God.
So does I think that we just are or we've got like our, you know,
this pandemic is going a lot better than the last one.
Like, at least you have Netflix.
Good gosh.
And even in that one, a lot of disproportionately amount of black
people died in that one.
So everything old is new again.
OK, Sarah Rector.
She said, Joseph, Joseph and Rose, lovely names too.
Joseph and Rose had their children and they were enslaved.
They were their ancestors were part of the enslaved Creek, which was a tribe.
I don't know exactly fully what this means.
The when the research, I didn't get to dig too deep.
This was a very just sort of like quick surface level research.
But I think this means that, well, we definitely means that they were enslaved,
but it might have been that they were enslaved to a tribe, which if that's true,
what? Yeah, OK, that's terrible.
But both of their fathers fought for the Union army and her family,
they were African members of the Muskogee Creek nation.
So they were also part of that.
And they lived in a modest cabin in a black town called Taft, Oklahoma.
So all of this is going to be taking place in Oklahoma,
which I think is so fascinating.
Oklahoma is such a rich history of black wealth,
because if you think back to like the Tulsa Tulsa,
which was known as Black Wall Street, where the Tulsa massacre happened,
where they, you know, white people came in and murdered
the entire town of like rich black people.
So when people are like, how come black people don't have any money
except for Beyonce and Oprah's like, because every time we get it,
you know, burn it down, murder us or steal our ideas and run away with it.
We can't get a patent or a tic-tac.
Allison, sorry, it's Trots.
Lana.
Yes, so at the time, this was Oklahoma was an Indian territory.
And after the Civil War, the parents of formerly enslaved
Crete tribe members were entitled to a land allotment under the Dows Allotment
Act in 1887.
I love this because like you're, you know, many of us did not get our 40 acres
in a mule, but it looks like in some parts of the area, like folks were given
their land, which is like, oh, that's dope.
And look, and we're about to see what happens when people are able to
were given their land to be able to catch up because they were kidnapped
and enslaved and made to work for free.
And then people were like, all right, go figure it out.
Like, why, why am I not here?
So they divided the creek lands amongst the creeks and their former slaves
with a termination date of 1906.
This is still so weird to me because this is really sounding like
the Crete tribe was enslaving black people.
I kind of like side-eyed with this Crete tribe.
Like, what?
We just get enslaved by everybody.
Could we, did we get to enslave anybody?
Like, I mean, slavery is bad, but like, I know exactly.
No, we'll never get our day in the sun is fine.
We'll never get our turn to be the slave.
So hundreds of hundreds of black children
who were the Creek freedmen miners were granted 160 acres of land
in Indian territory, which is like, that's a lot of fucking man land.
That sounds like more than 40 acres and a mule.
That is a lot.
And so, yeah, they're granted 160 acres to land as Indian territory
and quote, quote, integrate and was integrated into Oklahoma territory.
And I feel like that kind of reads into like Indian territory was just like
taken over, integrated as a nice way of like why people were like mine.
Mine, right. Yeah. Oh, it's integrated.
We took it and probably murdered some people.
So this happened in 1907.
And so her parents, herself and her brother, Joe Jr.
and sister Rebecca, they all got land.
And usually when lands were given to black folks,
this probably won't surprise you.
It was shitty land.
Usually they were like, oh, yeah, you can take that.
Take that.
It has a couple of feral cats in the alligator problem.
But you see, you see that dumpster fire?
Oh, yeah, it has you as you see the area where it rains acid rain.
Yeah, you can have that over there.
I'm not using that.
She's had that.
What's the Chuck E. G. pizza?
You see that?
Pascualis pizza.
You could have that like, oh, nobody wants a Pascualis pizza.
So the land was usually rocky and infertile,
but the Creek Indian nation was located in the middle of just the best
land possible because it was rich and right with oil.
It was in the middle of the Glenpool oil field.
And so little Sarah's land would go for a whopping at that time.
A whopping five hundred and fifty six dollars and fifty cents,
which at the time was like, you know, a lot of money.
Yeah, ball.
And her father was Bo Roke at the time.
And so he was like, I got to make some money.
So he leased Sarah's land because he was a little girl.
He was like, you're not using this.
And he leased her little parcel of her land to a major oil company.
And that was the Davonian oil company of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
And he leased that in February 1911.
And good thing.
I mean, he was literally he was kind of like a low hand or, you know,
Macaulay Colton, Macaulay Colton's parents who, like, you know,
were just using their children's resources, right?
But this turned out to be for the better.
Like he invested it because they were leasing it out, which is like what, you know,
Macaulay Colton's parents should have done, like invested their children's money
and they're going to steal it from their children and like put it in the stock market.
But what do I know?
I'm not a parent, but this is what I would do with my children's riches.
They'd invest in it.
So put it away.
So essentially he was doing this because he couldn't pay the annual
$30 property tax.
So he was like, I got to make some money.
But two years later, after leasing it and just like another oil
driller, B.B.
Jones, got a gusher, like, like these names.
Oh, B.B.
Jones, right?
B.B.
Jones, Boba Q. B.B.
Jones, Boba Q.
When oil drill in there are a lot of the businesses.
Anyways, they struck a fucking oil.
It was was dubbed as a gusher, not just a nineties, you know, fruit snack.
Awesome.
We all feel.
So it was gushing so much oil, like it was just, you know, jizzing everywhere.
So I'd like 2,500 barrels or 105,000 gallons a day.
Those are a lot of numbers that sound like a lot.
Like I'm not in the oil business, so I don't know, but that sounds like a lot.
Yeah, that does.
Oh my goodness.
So little Sarah, she I almost called her little B.B.
I wish her name.
I wish her name was little B.B.
Little B.B.
What her name is Sarah?
She got $300.
So she was getting $300 a day.
And even that's in 1913.
Like even now I'm like, I wouldn't $300 a day.
That's a lot of money.
Yeah, but that is equivalent to today's standards.
Seven thousand to eight thousand dollars a day.
A day.
Oh my goodness.
And there was even one day where she made the equivalent
of eleven thousand five hundred and sixty seven dollars in one day.
Oh, my God.
She was rolling in it.
Rollling.
She had multiple wells and she became a star, obviously,
like this little like 11, 12 year old black girl who's making all this money.
She became a star.
So there were headlines written about her.
I'll read you a few.
So the Kansas City Star.
Remember what time period it is?
So the kids are extra extra read all about it.
Millions to a Negro girl.
Sarah Rector ten year old has income of three hundred dollars a day from oil.
Long headline.
So January 14th, another newspaper wrote extra extra read all about it.
Oil made pick and any rich Oklahoma girl with fifty
hundred dollars a month gets many proposals for white men in Germany
who want to marry the Negro child that they might share her fortune.
Oh, my goodness.
All these children, she's twelve.
I know.
The Savannah Tribune wrote oil well produces neat
and oil well produces neat income.
Negro girls, one hundred and twelve thousand dollars a year.
It's like we get it.
She's black, like I know only one of those didn't mention that she's black,
which is funny.
So she was dubbed the richest Negro in the world.
Everyone was in her up for money, obviously, like, you know,
when you hit the lottery, all of a sudden she's got all these cousins.
All the cousins, all the family members on a go.
It kind of reminds me to watch that movie, Blank Check.
No, I didn't.
Disney. Yeah.
Oh, well, this is this isn't the Disney Disney plus.
It's definitely take a look.
This kid gets a blank check as one of my favorite movies growing up.
He gets a blank check and he gets to do it ever he wants.
And like he it's wild.
But it just kind of reminds me like, you know, children with this amount of money,
like this is dangerous.
So I know I'm so curious about what she was doing with that money.
Like, especially in these times, you know, like, what was she doing?
And she's in like Oklahoma, like this is a little nerve wracking.
Luckily, though, this is probably a thing.
I got to check the dates.
Yeah, I feel like this is around the time with Tulsa.
So there is a lot of other like black rich stuff.
OK, yeah, yeah.
So but at the time, here comes the plot twist.
We knew this was coming.
We knew rich black girl with money, something bad's going to happen.
Here we are. Second act.
At the time, a law required Native Americans or black adults and children
who were citizens of Indian territory with significant property
that their money was to be assigned to well respected white guardians.
Oh, my goodness.
They were essentially put into like what, you know,
just to use a relevant, you know, equation
like they're putting a conservatorship.
So they're like the Britney Spears of their times.
Like they're an adult.
They should be able to run their lives, but their dad is in charge of them.
But this is white daddy coming in.
White guys coming in, managing the money that she earned.
Right. And you know, and it's just so fun.
I mean, you'd know, obviously, white people made this rule
because, like, if you got all that money, we got to we got to do something about it.
Right. Yeah, you don't know what to do with all that money.
You remember, she's because so her guardianship went
from her black parents to a white man by the name of T.J. Porter.
Oh, yeah.
So obviously, you know, folks like Booker T.
Washington and W. DeBose were very concerned about her welfare.
The NAACP had came out to fight for her.
And they wrote in 1914, the Chicago Defender published an article claiming
that her estate was being mismanaged by grafters and her quote unquote ignorant
parents and that she was uneducated, dressed in rags and lived in an
unsanitary shanty like this girl was rich.
So this is not what she should be living in.
So the National African-American leaders, like I said, like Booker T.
Washington and W. DeBose, they became they were concerned and they were, you know,
fighting for her.
And Rector and her siblings went to school in I guess like none
of the allegations were true.
I don't know what that means.
But anyways, there were rumors about her well being and what was going on with her.
And her siblings went to a school in Taft,
which was an all black town and they lived in a modern five room cottage
and they own an automobile.
And that same year, Rector and Rold and the children.
Yeah, but they're like millionaires.
What's going on?
But then Sarah, she went to a boarding school for teenagers at Tuskegee Institute
in Alabama. I want to see her Netflix series.
Like this sounds like so many seasons you can do because then you get
like so many and the and the climax, which you're not expecting is like,
oh, yeah, wow, this series is ending so early and so happy.
And then it's like, no, people will put in charge of her money.
Never mind, you know, she's like living in a hole.
Yeah.
Oh, so at least she has boarding school to like, you know, save her.
But by the time she was 18, she was worth an estimated one million dollars,
which is about a million or that's already a lot of money by them standards.
But today that's like 11 million dollars.
Yeah, that's bananas.
Yeah, she had stocks and bonds.
I think she owned a boarding house as well.
And bakery.
She owned the Busy Bee Cafe, a restaurant.
I love that she went to boarding school was like, I want one.
I'm a run. Yeah.
Oh, she had the audacity of a rich white man, like go go girl.
Exactly. Who like dinner.
Yeah, like, oh, man, I just reminded him like, oh, this happens to white people
all the time where they just like have money fall onto them.
And they, you know, oh, my goodness.
And it's like news when it happens to someone black.
It's like, oh, my God.
Hey, black person, black person, got some money.
Extra extra.
There was a black person.
There's a little black girl running around here with back money.
So she had about two thousand eight, two thousand acres of land,
which was Prime River, bottom land.
She was a land heir.
Yeah, he said, fuck the 40 acres and you know, I'm going to be by the river.
Lakefront property.
And then she eventually moved to Kansas City, Missouri.
She bought a home that is still in existence today.
It's called the Rector Mansion.
If you're in Casey, that's a cool place to like go to.
And then she finds love in season, I guess it's like season three, season four.
In 1922, she married Kenneth Campbell,
who was the second African American to own a car dealership.
So they were like, she was going with like the, you know,
bougie black people, which is where she should wait exactly.
They had three sons.
They were known as like local royalty, drove expensive cars.
They would entertain the likes of Duke Ellington, Joe.
Oh, wow. Count Bassey.
And then sadly, they divorced in 1930,
but she was not like about to just like roll over and be like,
woe is me, she got remarried in 1934.
Oh, wow.
So I'm sure you're wondering, where are they now?
Well, she's dead.
She died at sixty five.
She's dead, which she died at sixty five.
So kind of young on July 22nd, 1967.
She lost most of her wealth in the Great Depression.
So. Oh, so sad.
She didn't finale, but she did have working.
She did have she did have working oil wells and a real estate holding.
So wasn't she was like broke out on the street?
She just wasn't as like rich as she was before.
Yeah. Wow.
That's the story of Sarah Rector.
So Sarah Rector, our own like Charlie
in the chocolate factory.
She got a golden pick and she ran with it.
She did. She did.
She came over, she had adversity, but she powered through.
Right. Can you imagine?
I just feel like when you're that age, you could buy so much.
So much. She was dreaming big when she couldn't even get her money
until she was like later, like she didn't really do anything fun with it
until she was like an adult.
Like and then she made some reasonable choices.
So maybe it was good that the bakery and stuff.
Yeah, like she's made she had stocks and ponds.
Like she did really well with her money.
So really snaps to Sarah, too, because I think that's also just
to kind of pause and look at that.
Like sometimes when you, you know, that's why people who win the lottery,
sometimes they like lose that money so fast
because they're not used to having that money.
And they don't know how to, you know, use it responsibly.
And so to go from like a family descendant of slaves who grew up
and like she's born in a little like shack to getting this business minded.
Like she props to her because she did really well with her money
on, you know, Great Depression, not her fault.
So. Right. Exactly.
That is a phenomenal story.
That is so phenomenal.
I love that she was just kind of like, I'm an entrepreneur.
Oh, you're going to hold my money.
That's cool.
She's probably making plans for it while they were holding her money.
Oh, yeah, totally.
She's probably like had a little list written with a little crayon
because she's only 12.
Making plans.
I'm going to invest in pudding.
I don't know what was around at that time, but I feel like that's
kind of the thing I would have invested in.
Great pudding, custard pies.
I'm going to invest in hush puppies.
Now, I know that was a thing of the time because I remember reading
the back of one of those American Girl books
that the black girl, I forget, she was like, obviously fresh off a plantation
and she knew how to make hush puppies.
So. Oh, yeah.
Wow. Have you ever read those American Girl books?
No, I didn't.
Do you know the ones that was like, it was there was a doll
and then a book that went along with them and they were all like
American girls from like different parts in like history.
And there was like a black one was like freshly released from slavery or something.
They all kind of took place in like those times.
It was way to like learn about history, you know, like that was that was the black one.
She knew anything.
She knew how to make hush puppies.
And there was one thing that Sarah Bath knew it was to make hush puppies.
Hush puppies and make a damn good.
She could burn.
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So we finished the episode on Sunday when our biggest concern was what Joe Biden said.
And fast forward to today.
It's May 28th, 29th, writing on the cuss there.
And you you're awake, you're alive, you know what's happening.
And you can quickly see why, you know, for many of us,
we couldn't really give two shits about what Joe Biden said.
The bad joke, the gaffe, you know, honestly,
for black folks, that's the least of our fucking worries.
So I want to talk to you about there were two incidents involving black men
highlighting the systemic racism in this country, one resulting in the murder
of once again, an unarmed black man and the other, well, at least he's alive.
So, you know, we started off the episode talking about two high profile
Karen's, meanwhile, another Karen out in Central Park.
She called the police on a black man, Christopher Cooper,
who let me just remind Joe, if you haven't seen, he's very handsome,
very handsome Christian, cute Christian Cooper, who, you know,
his backstory has he's been a gay rights activist.
He's been on the board of directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance
against defamation for glad he was an editor at Marvel.
He brought he was brought us Marvel's first superhero
who came out of the closet.
He was a creator of Marvel's first lesbian, central character.
And he also created Queer Nation, the online gay comic.
He was also been an activist for marriage equality in New York,
pounding the pavement, being a part of initiatives.
He's also a Harvard graduate.
And he was just simply out birdwatching in Central Park in the Bramble.
So this is like birdwatching while black, another thing that we can't do.
So he's out in the Bramble where avid birdwatchers go.
That's where they be.
And it's an area that has signs that say dogs must be on leashes.
And he's there, mining his own hand to mask business, birdwatching,
because that's how we do when this white woman was out there with her
unleashed dog.
Remember, you're not allowed to have unleashed dogs there.
Just letting that dog run amok.
And he's an avid birdwatcher, as we said.
And he cares so much about the leashing laws.
He's also an activist.
And her dog was just running around and it could destroy the habitats of the birds.
And he says, you know, if the habitat is destroyed,
we won't be able to go there to see the birds to enjoy to enjoy.
She refuses to lease her dog.
He just tells her to leash it or even go to one of the other fucking areas.
She could just go somewhere else.
Central Park is big.
No, it's too much of a bother for her.
So.
He said that he recorded the incident because he was worried about
the possible violence against him.
And that, like, it's a thing that these birdwatchers have been doing
that they will film people who are breaking the law, essentially,
to try to bring attention and justice to, you know, this area being destroyed.
This white woman did not like that.
She worked herself into hysteria and calls 911.
And then she threatens to call the police.
She's like, I'm going to, I'm going to tell them she hysterical.
I'm going to tell them there's an African American man threatening my life.
That's what she says to him.
And Christian Cooper didn't advance toward her or anything.
He appears non-threatening, as you can see in the video.
And knowing he has the whole like, you know, he's just filming her.
He's like, hey, go ahead.
Tell them she does.
She gets on the phone.
She literally worked herself into a frenzy.
You can watch her do this hyperventilating and just putting on a fucking performance.
And this frustrates me because it just does a disservice to anybody
regardless of race or gender, whoever really is attacked.
And she pulls this bullshit.
So she calls them and she's like, there's a there's a black African American man.
I guess she was polite enough to say African American man.
Then she's he's attacking me.
Send the police.
I'm in Central Park.
That's what she does.
And, you know, when I read this story, it was it was maddening.
And I look at his bio and I thought, holy fuck, this could have been me.
I'm a blurred like this guy.
You know, I was just living in New York.
I mean, these things can happen to any of us
because of the color of our skin.
It can literally happen to anyone.
This woman, liberal voter, donated to Obama.
She knew what she was doing.
So, you know, racism has no bounds.
It happens all over this country and every single political party.
She knew that her privilege as a white women who are the most protective
class of people in this country since the dawn of birth of a nation,
she knew she could do and say that to get what she wanted.
And this has been happening to black men for centuries, going back to Emmett Till.
And it's a miracle that, you know, it wasn't just the wrong NYPD officer
didn't show up and decide that, you know what, this guy is a menace
because he's black and there's a white woman, white woman in distress.
And having lived in NYC and I've been on the other hand of the of the NYPD
a few times, like it's a miracle that this man is still alive.
This could have ended up very differently.
This could have been me.
It's Emmett Till all over again.
This shit is still happening.
And then we cut over to Minneapolis, like these two stories
in the same fucking day where you have George Floyd, black man,
who was allegedly being arrested for forgery.
And there's things coming out about this story about how these cops
actually knew him. There's a lot of information coming out.
This is fucked up.
And he and also like being arrested for forgery,
like he's just sitting in his car writing a bad check, I don't understand.
So he's not resisting arrest.
He gets pinned to the ground by an officer.
There's camera footage.
There's someone who's filming as well.
The officer puts his knee into his neck
like eight minutes, along with two or three other officers
who also have their knees on his back on his body.
He is pinned down and George repeatedly says, I can't breathe.
I can't breathe.
Sound familiar?
Because just like Eric Gardner before him, those would be his last words.
And I guess, thankfully, someone filmed this because, you know,
now action can be taken.
And there's a huge debate right now with people who, you know, about,
you know, reposting these videos and things like that.
And on the one end, this is a whole other conversation.
I do understand how traumatizing this is for black people specifically.
Like this is it's really hard to see, you know, they don't allow beheadings
on a white guy gets beheaded, you know, by a terrorist organization or something.
They take those off the internet, but then these are allowed to circulate.
On the one end, you know, action was taken after Emmett Till's open casket.
And it was on the cover of Jet Magazine.
It woke people up.
And I guess we're still needing to be like, we still need to wake up.
But, you know, people getting desensitized by this.
So there is a caution and awareness.
We need to figure out a way of how we get this information out and get these
stories out because it does make an impact.
And maybe, you know, people do need to be a little traumatized,
not necessarily saying for black folks, but.
Anyways, the mayor of Minneapolis, who's a white man, he came out and he said,
you know, spoke the truth.
And he was like, listen, you know, if this guy was white, he'd still be alive.
You know, he's still alive.
Dylan Roof shot up a church of black folks.
And allegedly on his way home after being arrested or on his way to jail.
They stopped by Burger King because he was hungry.
So if you're looking for something to get mad about, here you go.
Not Joe Biden's gaffe to which, you know, what he apologized for.
And Joe Biden has made several statements about about what happened to George Floyd.
You know, demanding a full investigation by the FBI.
He's spoken to the hurt and the pain and that this is open up.
It's this wound that is here in America that he's trying to heal.
The systemic racism that's just been here in our nation that has led to the
protests, which as I speak have erupted into, I don't like to use the word looted
because it's just such a weighted word used by, you know, conservative
news sources against black people when we protest.
Like again, look at what's happening for when black folks are protesting because
they're killing us in our country.
And when white folks go out there and protest with their fucking guns.
So they can go to their job and kill people by getting infected with this virus,
where they should be protesting that their country is doing the right thing
and protecting them.
So, yeah, you know, I mean, I guess they these, you know, folks who were out
there protesting, they acted out against a target and it took a bunch of stuff.
But you know what?
I also look at this like this is the result of centuries long, not providing
40 acres and a mule.
People are upset, right?
Because they consistently are being kicked and dragged and murdered by this fucking
system. People are upset.
So let's not look at the cause of what's happened.
Let's look at the symptom.
That's what we need to heal.
And they've burned down a police station.
And I it's scary.
I'm scared for them.
I'm scared for folks.
I know the backlash of this potentially could create.
And meanwhile, drunk and a tweet tweeted out that these folks that these
he literally described these folks as being thugs.
And essentially saying that he would send the National Guard down there
and adding that when the looting starts, the shooting starts.
That's what the President of the United States said against his own citizens,
his own black citizens.
This was targeted.
This was deliberate.
Damn near an act of inflating civil war.
I mean, it's treasonous.
I mean, nothing new.
Trump.
Committing treason.
I mean, the same guy who retweeted a New Mexico politicians video and
which the man had said that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.
Those are half your constituents, if not more, sir.
So come November 3rd, either Joe Biden or Donald Trump will be president.
Everything you do from here on out until the election will either be to help
Trump get reelected or to ensure that we maintain what is left of our very fragile
and broken democracy and an effort to begin to rebuild it.
Either Joe Biden will be president or Donald Trump.
That is it.
That is where we are.
So if you're having trouble getting there, I'm going to tell you, acceptance is
going to be your friend from a place of acceptance.
You can then move into helpful action and you'll probably feel better about life
and you'll feel more empowered.
So it's like, take, if you're struggling, take back your power and get in the fight.
And please stop getting in the way of those of us who are doing the work
because we don't want to see him get elected.
Those are only two options.
And we can't wait around for someone to inspire us.
You got to inspire yourself.
You got to look at the window and see what's happening to your brothers
and your sisters and your fellow Americans and say, this is not okay.
That should be enough.
There are a myriad of reasons and causes to get involved in the most
important election in a lifetime.
What you do or don't do, it matters.
So find a cause, pick a Senate race.
You can adopt a state.
I just opted.
I'll link it in the show notes.
You can adopt a state.
I organizing together and votes of America are making it so you can organize.
You can volunteer straight from your couch and volunteer in a swing state.
They're going to train you up.
There are things you can do.
So what are you actively going to do to make sure that that man is not reelected?
Either get on the bus or go the way.
I just, me personally, I don't have the bandwidth or the energy.
To fight this thing from all different angles between other Democrats and
Russians and Republicans.
It's exhausting all while just trying to live my black gay life.
Bugs.
That's how he sees black people, his citizens.
So you're looking for something to do.
We have an opportunity to make a massive change in this country on November 3rd.
And while that might not magically fix everything, one candidate will continue
to hurt marginalized people.
And the other acknowledges it and has the opportunity and will work to let the
healing begin to put in legislation, stand, stand up to white supremacists and
put in attorney general that actually try these murderers with badges.
You have such passion and talent and we can be using that to put our voices
towards the Joe Biden campaign, pushing him further to the left, which is already
going there, we can be putting our energy into who we want to see as attorney
general, who we want to see in his cabinet, the kind of legislation that we
want to see, see having done.
That's helpful.
That is power.
You have that power.
We have that power to shape where this country is going to go.
We get one shot at this.
What you say matters, what you post matters, everything you do or don't do has
an effect and will either let this white supremacy stand under Donald Trump.
Or to help ensure that he is removed from office and we can work to restore
black folks, the right to a dignified life in America.
There is now a line in the sand.
You are either on the true movement or you're not.
It's time to put our small differences aside and see the big picture.
Cooperative collaboration is the key to life.
It is what adults do.
We negotiate, we collaborate, we work together.
You don't always get what you want, but fuck it.
That's what being a minority is.
Like we don't, we're on the minority.
We don't always get what we want, but we're able to, to, to use whoever,
whatever to leverage power, to leverage change until we're able to get our
actual champion in the arena to move that needle forward towards a future
that we might not ever see, just as those who came before us did for us.
So it's time to come together, y'all, stronger together.
It's not about you.
It's about us and who stands the most to lose.
It's time to be an adult and it's like Beyonce said, we need to get information,
y'all, because that's how you this, they keep killing us.
And every time I forget, I am a second class citizen in this country.
I am swiftly reminded.
I get so numb to these time and time after again.
And this one, I'll tell you this, this one broke me.
It was hard to get out of bed.
The two coming at it, you had two very.
You two black men and they had two different outcomes, but they could have
been the same and that could have been me.
I honestly haven't cried this much since Eric Karner, this one fucking hurts.
And so we have to come together.
So in the meantime, if you are looking for immediate action, like I said,
you adopt a state, adopt a state, adopt a state.
There are swing states that we need to adopt.
Find what it is that you are going to do in the next six months.
Now pick it now.
People's lives are in the balance.
And I know that you might feel powerless and you don't know what you can do.
You have power, own your power, take it back.
And in the meantime, if you're looking for something to do, you know, these
murderers are, are, I believe at this point, not in jail.
You can text Floyd to five, five, five.
You can text Floyd to five, five, one, five, six to demand that the officers
that killed him are arrested.
You can also email a link this in the show notes, but you can email.
Uh, Hennepin County DA office, office at citizen info at h-e-n-n-e-p-i-n dot
us to demand the officers are arrested.
You can donate to the Floyd family or the MN freed.
O-M fund that's at M-N-F-R-E-E-D-O-M-F-U-N-D.
Um, they'll be collecting funds to bail people, uh, the protesters out of jail.
Uh, this one was from Sean King.
You can go to justiceforbigfloyd.com, click on the link.
And then you can fill out the super petition there.
Um, and that's just some of those things.
And also, um, figure out what you're doing for the election because there's
something right there.
And I'll just tell you this, Joe Biden is right.
Listen, if you ain't, if you ain't sure who to vote for, you ain't an ally.
You know, it's bad for business, bad policing, cause this is what happens.
It's going to get burnt down.
And sometimes I might misspeak or we might misspeak that the system is broken,
but Dr. Adrian Keen tweeted out, just a reminder, the system and what is
currently known as the US isn't broken.
It was designed by male white supremacist slave owners on stolen indigenous
land to protect their interests.
It's working as it was designed.
That doesn't work for me and it shouldn't work for you either.
Let's get in the arena.
Let's change this.
Let's make sure that the next generation does not have to deal with this
because we still have to.
This is our mission is to end this.
Once and for all.
All right.
Well, that is the show.
Uh-huh.
There we are.
That is the show.
No fact check today because it looks like we're running a little bit long
and everything I said was perfect and wonderful.
All right.
It was so great to have Emerald here.
I hope wherever you are, that you are safe and that you are healthy.
And that, um, you are loved and that you're taking care of yourself.
There's a lot that's happening here.
There's so much is happening here and I'm grateful for you.
I'm grateful for you.
The listener that has been here, uh, for the past four years.
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It doesn't matter.
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