My Brother, My Brother And Me - MBMBaM 210: Yippee Ki-yay, Holy Father

Episode Date: July 21, 2014

We're delighted to welcome author, goat-nurturer and all-around swell human being Elizabeth Gilbert to the show this week. Join us for an erudite discussion on creativity, followed by an even more erudite discussion of Mecha-Alan Rickman's battle capabilities. Suggested talking points: Car Seats, From the Diaphragm, Wanged on that Nude, Grappling Hook Fitness, B-Sides, A Wax-Covered Rat, Business Pajamas, Life Critic, The Ultimate Battle

The McElroy brothers are not experts, and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mentioned only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby? Hey everybody, welcome to My Brother, My Brother Me, an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother Justin McElroy. I'm your middleest brother Travis McElroy. I'm your sweet baby Bubbikins Griffin McElroy. If you've never listened to our program before, we take your problems and turn them

out to me like into wisdom. I myself though am coming up on one of the first challenges, the first major challenges of my adult life. Things have been pretty smooth, but we're counting down to, we're about T minus three weeks, but let's hope for like two weeks or one week and a half. Or tomorrow. Or tomorrow. So you can party again. To mean like basically never doing anything again ever. Yeah. I mean, I would be psyched. Just having excuses, just like chill all the time. That's what that hood is like. Yeah, because that's what I've heard. You have a new baby and it's just chill all the time. No, but like you do when you get like a super big dose of that before the baby comes. Cause it's just like, you don't feel like doing anything. Cause the

nesting, I think yesterday I did take on probably what has been the most, the single most horrifying step of this entire thing. It is not, you would think that there were any number of things that would have terrified me over the past few months and you would be correct. Right. But you took a brisk class. Yeah. Cause you're doing that shit yourself. You're taking that shit in your own hands. DIY. There's no bristen for this, for this baby, but I did install a child's safety seat, a car seat yesterday, which I thought would be sort of a breezy way. I'm following along my parenting book, get ready for baby book. And this week's activity was to install the child's safety is the title like trying to get you psyched for the next baby book.

Is it like, get ready for this book. It's going to be, it's going to be so tight. You're not prepared for the words that we've got in this one. It's like, get ready for your sick baby coming. It's coming just dropping this year. Get pumped. It's like, so I'm putting in the child's safety seat. It is the single most terrifying lawyers. I'm assuming it's lawyers. God, I hope it's lawyers have made the, the actual like installation manual. It reads like a guide on how to dispose of an improvised explosive device. It is terrifying. Here is, here is a literal, literal section from the thing. You have to adjust the recline on the seat. Oh, okay. I want the baby to be comfortable. I'm going to have a smooth ride. Sweet lean. Yeah. A nice, just a nice

chilled out ride in the manual. It literally says, if the seat is leaning forward too far, your baby's head weight will make breathing impossible. If it's leaning back too far, then in the, in case of a, of a wreck, then the, the seat will not protect your child. So basically, wait, does it give you an indication of like the degree to which you're trying to get a seat? There is an indicator on the side, which measures the levelness of the seat. If the indicator is all blue, it's safe for zero to three months. If it's all blue with literally one sixteenth of an inch of darker blue, it's safe for three to six months. Oh, it is literally like a scene from Die Hard. Does it come with a, does the seat come with like a protractor that you have to use

that's like this zone is full baby death guaranteed? Guaranteed. Like a test baby that you could like try it out on just like a, just a burner baby. Put the baby in it, see how it works the first time. You're like, okay, see now this baby can't breathe. Glad we tried it out on this baby before we put our baby in it. Yeah. Yeah. There, there is no safety net like that. You, you, it actually says the insertion manual and I had a gentleman who wanted to sell me roofing service echoed this advice. He said, you know, if you take that to the police station, they will tell you if you did it right or not. Is that a service police provide? Apparently. And I think it's just for convenience because if you can't install the seat, then they put you in jail because you're too dumb to have a

kid. Have you some sick pre-crime shit? Like we are, we are just going to go ahead and toss you in here for future murder. I don't see no dark blue strip. My comfort, the only comfort I take in, in this entire process is I've been alive for 33 years. I've seen some people. Okay. I've seen some people and their parents didn't manage to kill them with their child's safety seat. So I have to assume that like I can, I can swing this because I know some people. There's no way you're going to be the worst at this. Okay. Enough of this diversion. Enough of this clever banter. Another this hilarious warm up. It's time for the main event. We've got a big show. Eat, pray, love author Elizabeth Gilbert and also signature of all things. Author Elizabeth Gilbert is going

to be joining us as a guest spurt. That's coming up in just a little while. I don't think I've ever teased anything in the show and I don't know if that's just stick with us after the commercial break. A structural issue or just like we've never had anything to tease. But here you go. There. It's our first ever tease. But for now, let's let's take some of these questions and turn them into answers. I have a problem with speaking up. I frequently have to repeat myself and people often tell me that I talk too quietly. When I increase the volume, it feels like I'm yelling or that my voice takes on an unpleasant or harsh tone. What can I do to make sure that I'm being heard without feeling as though I'm shouting in people's faces? That's from whispering in

Wisconsin. I know that problem. No, you don't know. No, no, no. Here's the thing. Surprising to most, while I am very loud and verbose when like telling a story or a joke or entertaining people or ordering food at a restaurant or but here's the thing. Half the time I mumble out my order or half the time is I want to ask somebody a question. I don't like enunciate. I say a really quiet and kind of mumbly and it's either one of those two is I'm either super loud or like really awkward and quiet and mumbly and Teresa calls me on this all the time and it's like there is no middle ground for me. Yeah, you never sound normal. Yeah, no, never. Not really. I'm surprised you have found a fair amount of success, I would say, in this audio only medium while my microphone turned down

to 1%. Yeah. And even now, like even that, when you said percent, you're popping your plosives, you're shouting, you don't even know that you're shouting right now, but the people listening, like, is he mad at me? This is not a fun podcast listening experience for me. Travis is basically three quarters of the way to an SNL character. Right. Correct. I mean, it looks like Kris Katan. That's not fair, Travis. I'm sorry I said that. No, I grew a whole beer. You got a whole beer going on. He can't grow a beard. Yeah, take that Katan. Not since the fire. Just talk a little louder. You guys don't need us for these. No, here's the thing. No, here's the thing. I think there's an I can infer a problem here. And I think the problem is not that they're jumping from like

quiet to loud. It's that when he speaks at a normal volume or she speaks at a normal volume, they feel loud, which I think that that point is more of a self-confidence about either your speaking voice because you feel like it's harsh and unpleasant or you feel like you're yelling and being boisterous. I think that it comes from an inherent fear of voicing your opinions and saying what you need. Let me help you out here. Your problem is that you're yelling from your head. You need it. Where's your power? A lot of people ask me that. Justin, where's my power? In my vagina. Okay. It's down deep in your diaphragm. That's where you got to push the sound from. Right now, you can't see it, but I've got several leather restraints wrapped around my

stomach to help me remember to always be pushing air out of my diaphragm. I literally have no room to exhale. I'm waiting until after the show to exhale. Right, you got to wait to exhale. I'm waiting to exhale. Correct. They're also there for sex stuff. There are sex stuff related adjacent. They're sex adjacent, I would say. They're sex adjacent. It's amazing. Those two things don't have to be mutually exclusive. It can both be good for your support and for your sex stuff. This helps me talk good in public and also the chafing does things vis-à-vis boners. You know, sex stuff. That is a good point of this. You weren't in theater the ability to support and not yell. You can reject and you can be confident without yelling to the back of

the theater. I think that's it. Just support yourself with air. Feel confident what you say. Let me perform a quick demonstration. Terrific. I can't wait for this. This is me speaking with my normal voice. You can hear all of this sound is coming from my mouth and my neck. And your neck meat that makes the sound. My neck meat is filtering the sound waves out through what scientists call the shout hole. Your moist cords are slapping together like two fish just throwing together at a fish market. So this is just my normal, this is all without any other support. Yeah. And now I'm talking with my diaphragm. You can hear a clear difference.

Oh, Justin, I'm in the back of the theater. I'm in the back of the theater and I'm hearing every word of that. Why does your diaphragm have an accent? It's just from the sound being pushed out. I disagree. Oh, that's painful. Yeah. I think I can hurt the ass. It hurts the ass. That's why they pay them so much. It's not easy. That's why Liza Manelli got out of the game for so long. You actually sounded exactly like Liza Manelli right there. So I think there might be a little bit of truth to what you're saying. She had to have her mouth hole completely redone. Yeah, she burned it out. Y'all want a yahoo? Hit me. How about this yahoo? It's sent him by our good buddy, Drew Davenport. He has a lot more honorary titles, but trying to keep this

popping fast. Thank you, Drew Davenport. It's by Yahoo Answers user George or Jorge who asks, I mean, I don't know, who asks, my 14-year-old son wants to be naked for Halloween? In July, we usually buy our Halloween costumes because the Halloween shop that we go to stays open until July. That's the smartest fucking thing I've ever heard on Yahoo Then everything is 75% off. I mean, they didn't come up with it. They didn't come up with this Halloween costumes racket. Fair. I know. Crazy, right? That wasn't me. That was the yahoo. I have three children, one three-year-old, one six-year-old, and one 14-year-old. All boys. I got this cute bumblebee costume for my three-year-old, and my six-year-old wanted to dress up as

Darth Vader. Funny how he still loves Star Wars though. But my 14-year-old says he just wants to go trick-or-treating naked, and when I asked him again if he wanted a costume, he said he wanted to go completely naked, and that it would save us money anyway. I am the very nice kind of dad, and I don't like to be stern or mean, but I don't know, but is it okay for my 14-year-old son to trick-or-treat naked? Love, George. Uh-huh. I'm just kind of an amateur dad right now, but I can go ahead and tell you that that's not what nice daddies do. Yeah. Nice daddies don't let their kids run around. Now, if you're a cool dad, you let your kid run around with his dong out and stuff, and check out my kid's kiblets. I'm one of those cool dads.

Hey, Dad, my penis is in like a really crazy transformational 14-year-old phase right now. It's covered. It's pupating. It's the worst, but I do want to get that out and just sort of show the neighborhood. Can I do that? No, you can't do that. Why are you so stern and mean, Dad? Oh, shit, I just figured this question out. Finally. This 14-year-old doesn't want to go trick-or-treating anymore. Oh, so they're calling their bluff. Yeah, he thinks he's too old to go out trick-or-treating, so he's like, yeah, I'll go to dad if you let me go naked. But this is a day, this, this dogman's gambit is a fucking dangerous game. Yeah, it's a daongarous game. If George or Jorge calls your bluff, that's it. Yeah. You're done in that town professionally.

Have we considered that maybe naked is the name of a new street drug? Dad, I'm not going to trick-or-treat. I'm going to go on naked because, and, and he gets all tripped out. I'll hop up on goofballs and then he's running around the neighborhood. I'll, I'll cranked on naked. And kids are like shouting at him because they recognize it because they're in middle school, too. They know the, they know the score. They're shouting. I was like, he's on the, Jorge Jr.'s on that nude. Jorge's wearing on that nude. And ironically, one of the clearest signs of someone is on naked is they can't stand the feel of clothes on their body. Right, so they do get, they do in fact get naked. Yeah, that's what it called. Do you think maybe

he just wants to like slim good body it? Oh, maybe like a see-through suit so you can see the insides. That might be a good compromise. I want to go as, now you will have to put like a full dong on the suit. Yeah, slim good body. I don't remember, let me, hold on, let me do a quick Google image search. Yeah, no dick here. No dicks on slim good body. Uh, uh, oh no, that's like guts and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, he went clearly, he went full like visible man. Yeah, but you can't see like his, uh, testes. He can't see his like testes or his, um, was, was. Good buddies. What I've seen is good buddies. Can we get back to the real question here? Absolutely, which is what fucking 14 year old in existence has ever been like people have got to check out

what I have going downtown. People have to see what I'm working with in my downtown, my 14 year old downtown. A very confident 14 year old. Oh yeah, or, uh, like a chimera because it doesn't fucking exist. He's like a dragon. He's the quits at Tatarac. He's the one who's not afraid of his 14 year old dong. He got his dick figured out at 10 is what you're saying. Okay, what if, what if this is, uh, a sort of research project for him? He so doesn't have his dong figured out that he needs to stroll around town with it exposed to judge from reactions as to whether or not he has suitable or possibly deformed equipment. He has no, there's no, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh comparisons for him. So in order to judge the quality of his dong, he's just going to look at people's faces and see,

see what their reactions to it are. Have you guys checked out that documentary on Netflix about the 14 year old kid who just wants to see what people think of his dong? Jiro dreams of sushi. Boyhood. Boyhood. That's what the film boyhood is. And it's great because you get to watch, you get to watch that pupation in process over 11 years in high deficit. Go see it in IMAX. You won't regret it. It's a little bit. The 10 year old boy forms a cocoon around himself at 14, bursts out, fully formed, dong and all, and then walks around the neighborhood and gets some Kit Kats. Yeah. If you've, uh, not listened to our show before, that's the portion where we talk about teenage dong. And now here's the next question. Is there a way I could ask my

husband to lose a little weight? He has always carried a little weight, but in the last year, it's getting blueberry. It's getting blueberry. He ate some magic. He ate some magic bubble gum. He doesn't listen to this podcast. I'm an active person and I'm pretty disciplined about portion size and eating healthy. Is there a way I can ask him to trim down without absolutely hurting his feelings? And that's from Sydney McElroy in Huntington, West Virginia. Wow. Usually they don't include the whole name. That's weird because I'm married to a, wait a minute. I mean, let's be realistic. That's from every, every person currently married to a McElroy man. Well, Travis eats 20 cookies a day. How do I get them just to cut back to 10?

10 cookies a day? Just reasonable. I mean, I guess, I mean, this one's hitting a whole cluster of home guys. It's hard to make goose. And it's like, how would I want someone to tell me I'm chubbing up? Right? Is this, is this what it's like to be on like the receiving end of our, of our goof maelstrom? I don't like this at all. The goofsters have become the goof. I don't like this one bit. You could, you don't have to talk to him about losing weight. You could just start altering the life that the two of you share. So when you're going to go out on a walk, then invite him to go along and tell him maybe you're going to go for ice cream and then wander around the neighborhood and say, huh, I guess they lost the ice cream store. Well,

I guess we should go home now. He'll fall for that five, six, seven times. Who lost the ice cream store in this situation? Both of them. They're like, I thought, I thought there was a new one around here. Never mind. Let's go home and he'll fall for that. If it was me, seven, eight, nine, 10 times. So there, there's a week and a half of exercise. Now, as far as portion control goes, that's very easy. When the two of you are making dinner or you're ordering order exactly enough for two small portions, that's all you can make. And then if he eats too much more, then you just take like a little sliver, just like, oh, I guess there's only this much left for me. How about this play? You're at Applebee's because where else are you going to go? See you tomorrow,

Applebee's. You go to Applebee's. That is, that is their slogan. I know this. You go to Applebee's and both of you get a delicious like shitty steak with like a bunch of cheese melted on top of it. And then you both get that. And it's good, but you hate yourself. It's good, but it's fucking sucks. And then you take yours and accidentally throw it on the ground. And then you say, I know, I made a whoopsie again. And then he says, don't worry, we'll go half season mine. And then you do that every time that you eat anything, anywhere, ever again. And he's going to get curious after a while. Like, God damn it, Sheila. I'm married. God damn it, Sheila. God damn it, Sheila, you promised. Sheila, I warn you, if that had one more time, I was going to insist you got an MRI. I think

there's something seriously wrong in there up in your brain. So that could work. That could work, maybe. You can always just drop shit by saying, like, we need to eat better. We need to exercise. That shit, that dog don't, that dog don't like, they're like, I won't fly. That's like very direct. Yeah. Well, if we want to go indirect, could you gaslight them? And while he's at work, switch out his clothes, all of them for like half a size smaller each day. That's some, if that happened to me, all I would think is, man, my muscles are getting huge. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't exercise. Yeah. No, Travis, that's some psycho pageant mom shit.

Don't, I would be completely direct and psycho pageant mom. Could you put him on the pageant circuit and assume that the disapproving looks from the other moms will sort of like edge him towards wanting better fitness. Do you assume those disapproving moms, they're looking at him that way because he's a little chubby or because he's a 35 year old. Look at him on that stage. God, he could afford to lose 15 or 20 pounds. He would be so much healthier. What is he doing? Get lose 15 pounds and get a flipper, Dave. Look at your teeth. Also, his baton routine was weak. His baton routine was terrible and also he is an old man and everyone else here isn't. Here is the way you can encourage any man. He's not going to sleep in that princess bed.

Here is the way you can encourage any man to become physically fit. I just solved this problem for all of the world. You ready? You ready for this? I guess. Buy him two items. One, a 10 foot wall. Two, a sweet grappling hook. I guarantee he will be in your yard and do everything in his power until he is able to climb the rope attached to the grappling hook like a sweet, sweet ninja. He will do whatever fitness things he needs to do. He will work on it every night. He will not stop until he can scale it and feel like an awesome wall scaling guy. Justin, I feel like that's awesome advice. Not the most actionable we've ever given because I don't know where one buys a 10 foot high wall. You got to build it. You got to build it. If he's going to learn to get fit,

you got to learn a little carpentry and masonry. Get some rocks, get some slack, get some glue. That wall is going to fall and kill your husband. Then he'll be much thinner. He will be fine. You get a new skinny husband. You just got to flat stand with your husband. He'll lose an entire dimension. You want to go to Money Zone? Yes, I do. So everybody's tried Hulu on their computer, but did you know about Hulu Plus? It's like the Hulu on your computer, but way better because there's a ton of stuff on there that you can watch from a ton of different devices. New girl? Sure. The good wife? Catch up on that. Scandal? Don't mind if I do. Family guy? Revenge? Glee? Community? There's an insane amount of stuff just waiting there for

you. Dying for you to watch it. Did you know that if you don't watch New Girl, then Zooey Deschanel sits inside your TV and waits patiently staring out a window for you to come and watch her program? It's true. Listening to Patsy Klein songs. The sad ones. Just sitting and staring and waiting for you. How could you do this? It works on a smart TV. Sure. Roku? Yep. Apple TV. You got an Xbox. You can watch on your phone, tablet, train, dentist. Don't do that at the dentist, actually. You probably should. I think that's going to cost them issues. No, they give you some time. They put the Novocaine in and then they go, we'll be back in like 20 minutes and that's a New Girl episode. That's a single New Girl episode. It is just eight bucks a month, which is a steal, but

you're going to get a two-week free trial. That's right. No eight bucks for you. You're going to try out the luxury service, this express line, to Entertainment City by going to huluplus.com slash my brother. That's huluplus.com slash my brother. Take a day off of work and just eat all the TV you can. And just keep sui deshino from dying from loneliness. Yeah. She's in there right now. If you're a regular listener of the show, then you know huluplus has been a partner of ours for a long time now. They've been really, really supportive. So we want to keep that going. So make sure you go to huluplus.com slash my brother to prove to them that you heard about it from us. That they're not just flushing their money down the shitter. Yeah. Yeah. I got a message,

guys. Do you know who it's for? I do because I'm reading it. Is it for Derek F? Yeah. Can you read this? Yeah. I got, I got tired halfway through because I remember I did that entire huluplus ad and I got exhausted. So you want me to take over? Please. This message is for Derek F. It's from your friend Tim who says, this year you moved out of my house. You also became a real live human adult male, AKA had your 30th birthday. That's not how that works. It is. I've known since college that you were stuck with my fraternal bond of friendship forever. So while you moved out of my house, you could never move out of my heart. Oh, that is so sweet. May your 30th year be full of wonder, success and homoeroticism. That's wonderful. Wow. That would be a very powerful 30th

year. Sure. A lot of sexual awakening. A lot of success. A lot of great wonder. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And some new urges. I love it. I'm into it. Unfamiliar but not unpleasant. 30 years is a long time to go without dabbling and dabbling. Just a little dabbling. Just a little dabbling. Little dabbling will do you. Oh, wait. What? Nope. It won't. It did it. Yeah, but it did not do it. You're going to go back for the double dabbling. Double dabbling. You don't mind. Oh, who is this message for? Do it. Dallupadaisy. Who is the message from? It's from Mod. Okay. They gave us a fucking phonetic pronunciation. If we don't use it. Well, if you tell me how to phonetically pronounce D-G-E. Modsty. Yeah, it's just like

reading like the letters come together to like they create little discreet sounds. And then you attach those to each other. This is a message for Kate from Modsty. What is in your message? Sorry. Should we start this one over? No, I love how bad you've done so far. Oh, good. Hey, Kate. You're a pretty great person. I thought you might want to hear from your second favorite group of brothers. Okay. Thanks for reading all my dumb stuff and listening to my equally silly stories. I look forward to even more brain circles with you. Also, I love you. Also, I'm John Hans. Man, I hope that wasn't a kill order. John Hans. Or what if Modsty has been catfishing Kate as role playing as John Hans and then this is

the big reveal. I mean, it's not very big. I've seen way bigger like John Hans. Cancel the flight to your getaway wedding in Aruba with John Hans because it's been me the whole time. Enjoy the podcast. I do love you though. I do love you. And I want to go to more brain circles with you. I didn't mean for it to go this far. You just seem so happy with John Hans. And I didn't want to take that away, but it got out of hand. Can I tell you, can I say something in Machi's defense? Uh-huh. Nobody means for their catfish to go as far as it inevitably ends up going. God, does that's true. Everyone wants to jump in, do a double dabble, and then before they know it, they're on their like 19th dabble and they're like, fuck, this is way too deep. I gotta break

the news, but I can't because I'm scared. There's no off ramp for catfishing. No. You just have to take it to the logical conclusion, which is marriage or murder. That's the only two ways a good catfish can end. This next message is from Mark Abbott, and it's from Mark's friend, Mike. Now keep in mind, Mark's friend, Mike, is the one writing, filling in these boxes. So, Mike identifies as Mark's friend. He introduces himself as, oh, I'm Mark's friend, Mike. Who's Mark? You're alone. You know, Mark? Mark Abbott. You know. It's my friend, Mark. And he says, hey, Mark, since you got me a sweet new job, I decided to use part of my first check to buy you this message. Oh, great money. Great money, management. My dog, Mike. I know I was

deeply in debt and owed you $500, but whatever. So, in a way, it's like you bought it yourself. Thanks for the job and many years of friendship. Hopefully, I'll still be employed by the time the brothers get around to reading this. This also counts as the birthday present. I never got you. Oh, there you go. That's the baby. I love it. So, happy birthday, Mark Abbott. I guess like happy, you sound like a solid, solid person, just like getting this person a job and being like so cool with an enormous, disgusting amount of money that they owe you, that you have just let slide. What's up? My name is Jasper Red, co-host of The Goose Down, along with the lovely Kimberly Clark, and we want to invite you into the comfort and groove of our podcast that encompasses the arts

and entertainment. You can check us out at maximafund.org, also available on iTunes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, we are so thrilled to have with us a very special guest. Elizabeth Gilbert is the author of The Signature of All Things and Eat, Pray, Love, and she joins us for reasons that defy understanding here on my brother, my brother, and me. Elizabeth Gilbert, welcome to our program. Thank you so much. Thank you for saying The Signature of All Things before Eat, Pray, Love. That is not a typical way to introduce me. Well, there you go. I like it. I'm into the new stuff. I like it. You like my acoustic album. Right, exactly. Whatever the opposite of the deep, deep cut is, right? If it's new or it's,

I guess, it is a shallow, it is a superficial cut. No, that sounds terrible. That sounds extremely offensive. It's nice to be on the show, Griffin. Yeah, thank you for your superficial cut. I'm just kidding. So we're going to ask you some questions that have been submitted by our readers and you have to help them at least as much as we usually do. Okay, but I've been listening to the show for years and I know that that sets the bar very high. Yeah. So here we go. Okay, let's go. I am a low... Now, Ms. Gilbert, you of course already know that at this point, I am in the character of the question asker. This is not actually... Do not be confused. This is not just... I'm going to get really intimidated. So yeah, it's Mr. Gilbert.

You can call me Professor Gilbert. It's Dr. Gilbert Honorary. It didn't go nine years of Gilbert's school to be called Ms. Okay, so again, in the character of the question asker, I'm a lowly bookstore employee here in sunny North Vancouver, Canada and now I'm in West Virginia. So this isn't me. This is the question asker. Oh my God, I got so confused. Thank you for clarifying that. North Vancouver, Canada. What I want to know is how should I be selling your books? Do you have a favorite? Should I stick to the classic Eat Prey Love or is the signature of all things your new baby? That's from Brendan. Oh my gosh. How do you want to be

marketed? That's so nice. I'm going to send him a whole marketing plan for how he should be selling my books. I think he should play the hits personally because I think that people probably want to just keep reading Eat Prey Love because that's certainly what it looks like. And if he likes the signature of all things and he's read it and he wants to hand sell it for that purpose, that's great. But I don't know. I don't feel like anybody's obliged to come with me on all the creative journeys that I go on just because I like going on them. So I'm never offended when people just kind of stick to Eat Prey Love. Does that make sense? But what you're saying is then we're all, these all spin the same. Yeah, they're the money

spin. Couching either way. There have got to be book hipsters though, right? Like, oh, you're buying Eat Prey Love. Well, I guess that's all right. I mean, I like her B-sides, but that's fine. B-sides now from superficial to B-sides. You two are killing me. But you know what I will pull out of that? That question that I think is interesting and that we could talk about is the idea of, he said, signature of all things is your new baby. And that's something that I always try to talk people out of doing about their own work is calling it their baby. Because I think that sets you up for terrible trauma. But I think the feeling that they're trying to get across, and I think it's something that like in the music scene,

especially like, I will get psyched to go see like a musical artist that I have loved my entire life. Right. And then I go to their concert and they're like, here's only songs off our new album. You don't know any of these songs. So don't try and sing along. I heard John Cougar Melanchep in an interview once and he said, people who work really hard and have hard lives didn't spend 50 bucks to come and hear me not sing Jack and Diane. I love that. And I feel like that's why sometimes very considerate interviewers will say, I don't want to bother you with questions about Eat Prey Love. And I'm like, it's my Jack and Diane. People didn't come to this bookstore to hear me not say, you know,

answer the question. What's what was it like to see Julia Roberts play you? And like, I'll answer that question 20,000 times, because it's rude not to, I think. So yeah. Jimmy Buffett had a great quote, you know, James Buffett song songster. And they asked him about Margaritaville. And he said, am I going to sing it to my daughter tonight as she goes to sleep? No. Am I going to sing at the concert tomorrow? Yes. Well, it's also got to be a little bit of like, what gets them in the door, right? Like, if they read whatever book and then go, now I want to read more, or the same with like the music artist, maybe you hear Jack and Diane and then you go, I want to find out more about this John

Cougar Melanchep fellow. Who is this? Who is this young upstart? Sing about. Sing about Americana. Got a real future. Got a French sound. He's a comer, that one. My parents went and saw Gordon Lightfoot once at the beginning of the concert. He announced that he would not be singing the wreck of the MFist Gerald. And they said like literally 20% of the audience. That's so great. Is that, what is that? Some sort of a love test on his count to see? Then he did sing it like, okay, now I was just fucking with those guys. I am going to sing the wreck. Because you're the only ones who deserve it. Because you're the true, you're the true love. You're the true light feet. I'm going to sing

an abridged 14 minute version. I saw Rufus Wainwright once after playing after Ben Folds. And it was an outdoor show and like after Ben Folds finished, I would say like a good third of the audience stood up and walked out as Rufus Wainwright was coming on stage. And the first thing he said was, well, now that all the straight people are gone. Awesome. I have a backed up sink that I can't get running smoothly. What the hell, Elizabeth Gilbert? I've tried Drano product with no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. That's from Backed Up in the Bay. I love our listeners. We had John Rodrick, rock musician, rock legend, the Cougar Mellencamp of our time on the show. And somebody asked me about eating boneless chicken wings. I don't think,

why squander? Are you a sink expert? I don't want to brag. Can totally answer this question. And I'm glad that Backed Up thought to send it to me. First of all, stop washing your goat in your sink. There you go. Yeah, that's the one. That's the biggest problem. Are they a shedding animal? Goats are pretty, you know, they can be pretty shetty depending upon the breed. But I think that's the problem that I, I mean, just, I'm just doing this over the phone. I haven't seen the sink, but I'm guessing. Yeah. Or the goat. Or the goat. It's a very, it's a very hard talk like experience. What sound is your sink making? Is it like a roar? What sound is your goat making? There's a lot of variables.

There's a lot of variables there. Also, I would say move. That's what I do. That's what I do when anything breaks. It's like the blue, it's like the blue bristles on your toothbrush when your sink stops working. It's time to get a new house. Yeah. The house is, the house is done. You're moving today, right? You told us before we started. Is it a sink related issue? No, I had a light bulb go out on the porch and I don't have a ladder that's tall enough to fix it. So we're moving. You do have a car with a lot of trunk space though. That's right. And you do have some cardboard boxes. And every time I look at that Burnout light bulb now, I'm like, not my problem anymore. Yeah. Sorry, sucker. Good luck next owner. I didn't put that in my homeowner's report.

Yeah, you have to disclose that during the closing. I removed a pretty horrific clog from a drain a few months ago and man, there is nothing that will disabuse you of whatever romanticism you have attached to humanity quicker than doing that and thinking this came from me. Did it look like you pulled a rat, out of the, like just a dead, it's so disgusting. It's the worst. It's like a wax-covered rat. I've done this before. It's nasty. It's not covered a rat in wax. I made a candle out of it, a decorative candle. It seems so cruel, Elizabeth. When I get interested in some creative pursuit, I tend to go hard on consuming the behind the

scenes media slash content for it. I'll start listening to a bunch of podcasts, follow various relevant public figures, reading blogs, et cetera. I started wondering if steeping myself in all this peripheral content is prematurely satisfying the desire to actually go and do. Did you guys, this Gilbert and brothers alike, experience anything like this before you started actively creating? Is the trade-off of insight versus potential stalling worth it? Am I completely imagining this problem? That's from interested but inactive. I mean, it sounds like what you're talking about is research. If you have even a potential desire to dip in, then everything you're doing is research. The trouble is that you can consume so much high quality content

that it can scare you out of, like, I'll never be able to make something like this and then you don't do it. I also find, because I do this a lot, sometimes you can trick yourself into feeling like research is doing the thing and never actually make progress on the actual project because you feel like you're already accomplishing something because I do that all the time where it's like, oh, I want to learn about this so I can do it and then I learn about it and feel accomplished and never actually do the thing. Do you guys feel like you know the difference? If you're being very honest with yourself, you know the difference between doing productive research and just dicking around? The questioner, if he were to really ask himself as he's listening

to a podcast, come on, man. You know, right? Like, don't you know? Well, for this, I think a lot of people have the wrong idea about creativity. I think creativity is just your brain reorganizing junk and turning it into something different. I never know what junk I'm going to put in my head that is going to be worth pulling while we're recording this program. Normally, whatever bizarre topic that we get off on a given week is just whatever one of us has been thinking or reading about, be it Jimmy Buffett or Jimmy Buffett, I guess. If I'm researching live show venues for us to do live shows in, and then I click over to Facebook and I see somebody posted a BuzzFeed quiz of which OC

character are you and then I take the quiz trying as hard as I can to get Sandy Cohen using every fiber of my being to try and get Sandy Cohen. Is that research for the show? Guess what? It fucking is because I just talked about it on the show. Which means you can also write it off on your taxes. I just wrote that BuzzFeed quiz off on my taxes. That's right. Can I tell you guys something? I got Jimmy Cooper. What the fuck, right? Like, it's like the worst one you could have gotten. Yeah. Did you do it again? I did do it again. I think the trick is that you have to remember that creativity has to go with productivity and that while you're doing this research, say like you're going to do an hour, two hours of research and then you're

going to write, you know, a page, you're going to write 500 words and just put something down or do something. So like, if you're going to reward yourself by watching a movie about the thing that's really interesting you, you have to also do the work associated with it and eventually you'll do more work than research. Obviously, you did a lot of research for signature of all things. It seems very thoroughly researched. When did you know you had like done enough or was it like an ongoing process as you were writing? I did like three years of research. So I know this feeling in a way. I know this question about preparing. But it wasn't passive. I mean, part of it is that you're not just sitting there watching movies or, you know, I was taking notes

the entire time and filling up shoeboxes with index cards and putting them in order of character and subject. And so it's sort of like what Travis was saying, you're making something out of what you're doing. You're not just, you know, you're not just randomly surfing. But I think I knew that I was ready when I kept circling around and finding myself like I would open up a book about 19th century botanical exploration and I would feel like I knew most of it already. You know, like, oh, I know. All right, right, right. I know this. I know this. I know this. So when you start meeting yourself, you know, like your tail and your head connect, then I think, then it's time to put the research away and to get going on actually doing something.

Is that scary? Is that because like, I think we were pretty intimidated when we, we all listened to like a shit ton of podcasts. And that was, I guess, the preparation we did before we just started doing the show. And we did it like we did the first episode on a whim. It was like, Hey, we're not doing anything today. Let's just pull the trigger on this. But it was like really intimidating. I remember doing that. And that was like fucking clown shoes compared to writing a novel. So like, how, like, isn't it intimidating to be like, Oh, shit, like the safety net's gone. I'm not like, I can't just write this off as preparation anymore. Now I'm actually doing the thing. Right. I just jumped off the cliff. I think

if I can be really serious, I feel like what you have to understand always about anything creative and inventive is that creativity and fear are conjoined twins. And I think lots of times the reasons that people hold back from being creative is because the fear is so great. And so in order to try to murder the fear, they end up killing off the creativity as well. And so you have to just accept that they, that they were born together, they share all the same organs, they're always going to be together. And you have to make a lot of space for just allowing the fear to coexist along with the creativity. So what I always do before I begin any project is I actually sit down and have a conversation with the fear and just say, look, we're going on a road trip, me and

creativity, and I know you're coming. And I just want you to know that you're paying for gas. You're going to eat all the, you're going to eat all the combos. You're the worst. You don't get to touch the fucking radio. You don't get to drive. You don't get to hold the map. You don't get to make any decisions, but you get to be in the minivan. And I know that you're going to do the thing that you do, which is to just sit in the backseat and scream at the top of your lungs at every corner, all the horrible things that could go wrong. And thank you, because I know that's your contribution. But, but we're, but we're not, creativity and I are going to make all the choices and you don't get to make any of them. But you, but you have to let it be there. Because it's

not, I feel like the harder you try to fight it, the more it fights back. And, and the worse it gets. So you just have to make a lot of, you just have to get a really big minivan. So that there's room for all three of you as you have a, do you have any, uh, like writing ceremony? Do you have to be in a certain place or listen to certain music or light a certain votive or, or anything along those lines? Or do like a certain fight club or do like recite your favorite scene from fight club? Yeah, mostly it's for citing my favorite scenes. How did you guys know that? We've read your fan fiction. You know, a lot of it is just about, you know, I feel like a lot of it is just about signaling to the weird mysterious forces of

creativity that you are actually taking this seriously. And, and I think that that like, it's sort of a signal that you send to yourself and it's a signal that you send to, you know, the universe for lack of a better term, that you're not kidding, you know. And, and by, and there's all sorts of ways you can signal that. Like one of the ways I do it is that I don't write my pajamas, you know, like I get dressed. Um, oh, shit. You know, like, I just, I just, I'm in my pajamas. Are you literally all in your pajamas right now? Oh, super. Definitely. Yes. And by right now, I mean, like I work from home. So basically round the clock, 430, I'm like, Oh shit, my wife's coming home. I better clean my body. I used to do that. But I feel like it,

I feel like it sends a message that you're not really awake and that you're not really, it's like, I get dressed, especially at the beginning of a project. Like I'll get dressed like I'm going to something important, you know, like I'll clean the room. Like it's, like a visitor is coming, you know, like I'll, I'll just try to set the scene. And then as the project goes on and I get more confident, I'll get sloppier. But I think at the beginning, the ritual is like, this is important and I'm, I'm showing up as if it is. Does that make sense? Yeah, totally. I got another question for you. A year and a half ago, my sister began traveling around South America. She saved up her money, sold her house and car and quit her corporate

job. I'm so proud of her and her journey, but I'm also a little uneasy. I can't really relate to her desires or experiences. I also worry about her safety at times. How can I be supportive, even if I feel a little left behind? That's from helpless at home base. I bet it's younger sister. Did it say younger sister? No, just sister. Oh, it seems like a younger sister thing to do and an older sister thing to worry. Maybe they're twins. Oh, could you join? Oh, wait. No, that would be different. I worry about this because Travis is moving to LA. I have these worries. The South America of America. South America, America, South America, LA. West America, the left cars. I don't have an answer.

So if you got one for me, hook me up. Well, first of all, I think it's that the idea that somebody might not want to go on a journey like that is reminds me of a friend of mine who said to me, right, when I was about to leave to go on the trip that became me pray love. And I said, I'm doing them going to Italy for four months and then I'm going to India and I'm going to go to this ashram and I'm going to learn how to meditate and then I'm going to Indonesia. And he said, oh man, there's a part of me that so wishes that I wanted to do that. I really have no desire whatsoever to do any of those things. I thought that was so lovely and honest. That's crazy. Because the thing about that is, is like the desire doesn't seem like the

problem to me so much as like the logistics or something like that seems like a really complicated plan. I'd love to do it. I'd love to do what this sister has done. But like, that's a lot of commitment to like quit your job and sell your house and your car. And that seems the scary part to me, not the actual traveling part. I know. I think you just have to, I think on behalf of the person who's afraid or feels left behind, I think you have to be more afraid for her if she's not doing the thing that she's called to do, right? Because then you lose your, then you really lose your sister, you know? Like if she stays put in misery or in boredom or in torpor when what she really wants to be doing is traveling around South America, then you don't really have the full

realization of that person in your life. And I think you have to let her go become who she needs to be, right? We've got another question here from a real listener of ours. They said, what does torpor mean again? That's from just forgot it for a second, but sure, I know it. Is that from asking for a friend, asking for a friend, Justin? From asking for a friend in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. From Bill Cosby. From Bill Justin's. No, wait, Jill. It's from Bill Microphone. I don't know. What are you, what are you afraid is going to happen to Travis in LA, Justin? Good question. My wife has a metaphor she always uses. She says when she was little, she she liked to put all of her stuffed animals on her bed at once because she felt very secure

knowing that they were all there on her bed where she could keep an eye on them. And I have similar impulses for family where I wish that I could just keep everybody in sight so I could keep an eye on them and knew what they were doing and then I could protect them. So I don't know what the danger is. I just know that I have fear about him being that far out of my reach. Well, listen, if we're being honest and open about this, I will say as the person that's leaving, so speaking for the sister that's traveling, I think the best thing that you can do, question asker, is to be supportive, even if you don't feel it, which Justin has been wonderful about this, because knowing that someone is back home caring about you

helps you make smarter decisions because you hear that voice in your head and you're thinking what would my sister want me to do? What would my brother want? What would my love one want me to do in this situation? And it helps you be more responsible about your decisions and really think through things a lot more because you're not being as impulsive because you know that there's someone back home who is supporting you but also is worried about you. On the polar opposite end, I am being extremely unsupportive of Travis to fill that person sitting in the back of the audience when you just completed your piano concert. And I got to keep them hungry and keep them driven. I feel that role, Elizabeth, for a lot of people. For a lot of people in your

life. And not in my life. They don't know it. I went and saw Cloud Atlas and I will make disparaging remarks about Tom Hanks' performance. He's not going to get those, but if he did get those, he would try a little bit harder, don't you think? Griffin, do you generally just sit in the backseat of life with your spectacles down on your nose critically watching the piano recital that is everyone's journey? I guess I'll ask you, Elizabeth, what is good enough for me? Griffin is the statler and Waldorf of the modern world. He's just hanging out in life's balcony. Mine is not a punitive and it's not. I don't fucking enjoy it. I certainly don't enjoy it. It is a, on my deathbed, I'm going to be, you know, cold and alone and then the door's going to

swing open and then so many successful friends, Justin, Travis, Elizabeth, you, Tom Hanks, gonna run in. They're going to be like, thank you, Griffin. And I'll be like, you're well. That's how it goes. Here's a question. My friend and former roommate came home a while back. Man, I, this is going to be a toughie. So let's just all hang in there together. I'm gripping onto the arms of my chair. We're going to get through this. You're, you're, I'm, I'm sorry about this one in advance, but you did pre-screen these and give thumbs up to all of them. So let's like fucking navigate these choppy waters together here. My friend and former roommate came home a while back with a tattoo that said,

for whom on his chest, when I asked him what it meant, he explained it as a reference to a poem he wrote inspired by the motion picture he pre-loved. The tattoo in question has become the focal point of a lot of teasing. How long can I use this tattoo against him before it gets too mean? I love and kid the kid and cherish his friendship, but I also like pointing out that his tattoo is horrible. That's from terrible tattoo at Temple University. One quick point before we move on. I like how this, this person said that the tattoo become a focal point of a lot of teasing with a nonspecific, uh, uh, teaser. And then it later, then it immediately clarified the next sentence. Like, no, no, no, I mean me, for me, I'm the one doing it.

Right. It starts with teasing was done. And then someone was doing the teasing, but from the rest object of this teasing, from whom? Myself. To whom? Sad friend. Um, I, I like that, that there's, I like that he's like, when I was trying to figure out what he's asking, I think he's asking like, how do I jam in as much ridicule as possible in a period of time that is limited in a tasteful, in a tasteful way before what happens? Like then before the kid stops talking to him, I guess. Yeah. Before tears. The question is always, do you try to pack you in as much teasing up front, or do you spread it out over several years and just do a moderate amount of teasing, but you get to do it for longer. You know, is it quantity or quality?

I, I, I, I find everything about this question really wonderful, especially the fact that this guy wrote a poem based on the movie he pre loves. Well, he got a tattoo based on the poem, based on the movie that's based on your book. Yeah. That's like a lot of spin offs. That's amazing. Yeah. You know, I think if I was this guy, I'd go ahead and read that book before I got that bad boy inked on my chest. Yeah. Cause then at least you can say it's based on a book and not on the movie adaptation of a book. It's a poem based on a book sounds a lot better or inspired by, rather than inspired by the major motion, major motion picture. I think that the person who is teasing should write a novelization of the tattoo. This is my graphic novel. Yes. I have a tattoo.

I have a tattoo on my neck that says danger. It's based on the novelization of the movie Lost in Space with Matthew LeBlanc. So. But I really get, do you guys understand the peculiarity of the, this fact that this guy doesn't seem to be holding back the teasing at all, nor does anybody else. And yet there seems to be like some sense that there's a statute of limitations. And I don't know what, what that comes from. Like, it comes from, it comes from like, it doesn't matter what the source material for this tattoo is, you got four whom tattooed on your chest. When you're at the beach, especially for like a ripped, strong, good body, it looks like you're saying like, here's a present for you, America, my body, right? Am I the only one that's

getting hit? Like if you got like a gift tag tattooed around it, like that's what it would look like, like I'm a present for you. That's what it sounds like to me. What I love, I think the question is saying, when I see this tattoo or we think about this tattoo, I cannot help but tease this kid about it. Even as I'm doing it, I feel bad, but I can't stop. How much is too mean? When do I just need to like cold turkey? I personally, I think the meanest time, the meanest time to tease someone about their tattoo is right after they get their tattoo because they're still going through a lot of things. Like, they're still processing a lot. And there's probably, if there's any unsure feelings about this, this thing that they've done, it is probably right then. I think

you caught them at peak vulnerability, honestly. It's also not like teasing someone about their weird hat or like an ugly pair of shoes. You can't go, you're right and take the tattoo off. See, I feel like when Griffin said it feels sort of arrogant, like you're welcome America. Right. That's what I'm saying. I felt like totally the opposite. I felt that it felt sort of longing like for whom am I? And then when he meets his great love, he can cross out the whom and put Susan. It can be like, you can add a question mark to the end of for whom and then Susan period. Exactly. And then it's like, done my per, you know, like, and you keep the whom there as a reminder of your sad lonely yourself. And then it becomes kind of a beautiful tattoo, I think. Well,

if that doesn't work out, you cross it out and you put Leslie, like whoever, you just continue. Right. Scratch below that, scratch that and then an M dash. Now it's Melissa. And if you have a long torso, you can just keep going. Yeah. How long is this kid's torso? It's the question. That's that. See, these are the essentials that we never get in in these bits. I think that we have have imposed on on you for quite long enough. It's been a half hour that we've just been talking to you about garbage. So we're sorry about that. That's kind of what we do here. But thank Oh, my God. Travis has changed his Skype picture to him standing with a horse. How am I supposed to continue with that?

Travis, that's an amazing picture. Your sleeves are rolled up. You look like you've been doing some labor. It's like seconds after this. I rode that horse. No, no, you didn't. Elizabeth Gilbert, thank you so much for joining us on our program. We've, of course, mentioned your books. Do you have anything else you want to plug? You have your Twitter, of course. Oh, I'm Twitter. I'm at Gilbert Liz. But now that the World Cup is over, I don't have much to say. And but mostly I just first, for sincerity, I just really want to thank you guys for my bim bam because it is a joyful and fantastic thing that has brought me so much pleasure and happiness and company when I walk my dog. And and I think I speak for all of America

when I say that you're a national treasure. So well, like, like 30,000 people who live in America to be precise. I know that you travel a lot. What's the weirdest place that you've ever listened to my brother, my brother and me? Oh, gosh, I usually listen to it on long airplane trips. So probably I saved him up for when I came home from New Zealand last time, because that's like a 57 hour flight. Yeah. And that that was fantastic. It made me very happy. Well, that's super flattering. I had to kill the comedy by ending on a note of Well, listen, if you didn't do what one of us is going to. Thank you so much for joining us. Elizabeth Gilbert, and you were great. And we really

appreciate you being here. Thanks, you guys. And now let's get back to Letters for Quality Programming. Yeah, I guess. How about a Yahoo hit me? So I'm sitting by Drew Davenport. Thank you, Drew. That's about Yahoo Answers User D's who asks, best battle ever takes place in the same area that Goku fought Vegeta the first time. So not not their final battle. We're talking about the first. Right. We're the first one. The premier Goku V Vegeta. We're the first time Goku fought Vegeta. Okay, got it. Go ahead. So this is in the religion and spirituality section. So we're talking about Jeremiah, the the prophet, the weeping prophet. You know him.

You might know him from Kings. 50 foot robot Jeremiah with laser eyes and the mobility of eight 10 ability to fly only for three minutes before a charge up of five minutes low class shields and five rockets machine gun 200 bullets a mag one minute reload time and unlimited mags versus 75 foot Alan Rickman with tentacles for arms and beefy legs mobility of five out of 10 and mid class shields machine gun fire from suckers and tentacles reload and mag size the same as above unlimited mags and mouth laser equivalent to three eye lasers added bonus that he can jump 200 feet higher than Jeremiah can fly but can also smash the ground with the power of three missiles but can only do it twice or his shields will break. Jesus, such a good question. It's a

really tough one. You got Jeremiah in one corner author of first and second Kings. Wait, is it possible that by Jeremiah they mean Jeremy Irons? No, they mean Jeremiah creator of that joint hit Lamentations because I would love to see a battle between giant Jeremy Irons and Alan Rickman. I don't get the connection between Jeremiah and Alan Rickman. This person needed to put this question somewhere. Religion and spirituality, I imagine is a pretty good place for like getting answers on your Yahoo mysteries. So he had to get some Bible shit in there somewhere. We got Jeremiah. Do you need the stats again 50 feet Jeremiah? He's eight out of 10 speed. That's pretty fast. He can fly but only for three minutes and he has to charge up for five. So it's not like an unlimited thing.

Alan Rickman can't fly. He does have tentacle machine gun arms. He can jump super high though and when he pounds the ground it has the strength of three missiles. Can't do that more than twice so or his shields will break though. Can they call in? There's one thing I know about Jeremiah. It's that he was a bullfrog. Don't. No, come on. And he was a good friend of mine. Just and start talking. But I think that the problem is can they call in reinforcements? Can Jeremiah call in another biblical prophet? Can Jeremiah call in like Matthew or Mark or Luke and Alan Rickman can call it. I don't know like Jason Isaacs. Janine Garofalo. Hello Jason Isaacs. Join me. Take one of my tentacle arms. Dislodge it from my body and use it to defend yourself. So your

problem with this question is that there's not enough specificity in the powers that have been allotted to Jeremiah the biblical prophet and Alan Rickman who was right. I'm saying they are they still human or is this like a mecca or like Voltron Ultraman? We might be looking at an Ultraman scenario. So robotic cyber Alan Rickman? I think in this situation Jeremiah is is Ultraman and I think Alan Rickman might be the the Kaiju. Gotcha. I'm going to have to go Alan Rickman every time. He has a significant height advantage. He's slower and that's I think the only thing that Jeremiah has going from that extra three points of speed is going to fucking count on the battlefield. But he can he can jump and hit the ground with the power of three missiles. That's true but Jeremiah

has five rockets. So you throw you throw Alan Rickman in the air. You're basically like skeet shooting at that point. You get and you think you think Alan Rickman's about to win but then Jeremiah finds the locket that Alan Rickman bought for his secretary in his co-pocket and he gets so pissed off. He gets fucking angry. Then he turns around turns the whole battle around and Jeremiah brings him down. And then Jeremiah reaches behind between his shoulder blades and pulls the gun that he had duct taped there and shoots Alan Rickman. Well he didn't do that. Falls out the window. Oh he did do that. No yeah you're right. No that was in Lamentations. That was in Lamentations five six. Yippee-ki-yay Holy Father. This has been our podcast my brother my brother me. We hope you've

had a lot of fun listening to it and enjoying and absorbing it but not too much absorption actually that doesn't seem healthy. We have a ton of other stuff. There's literally I can say there's now hundreds of previous episodes. If you're interested in that sort of thing we have a YouTube channel that Travis has been feverishly updating its YouTube slash mbmbam. Including some animated videos that Tyler Crowley made for us and they are wonderful. Thank you Tyler. We're on Twitter to Twitter slash mbmbam. We have a Facebook we have two Facebook groups I'm not sure which one you want to join so join them both. We're on the Maximum Fun Network. We're proud members of the Maximum Fun Network and you should be listening to all the other programs on there like Jordan

Jesse Goh, Judge John Hodgman, Stop Podcasting Yourself, Saw Bones. It's down lady to lady thank you girlfriend Saw Bones is a show I do with my wife about medical history and there's many many others that you can enjoy right now going to maximumfun.org. Thanks again to Liz Gilbert for joining us. Liz huh? Liz wow you guys are close huh? Yeah I mean we've really got to know each other over the last two weeks so you guys can all f off. Okay I mean I've been on that email thread. I didn't think that you had. I didn't think you had like yeah. Liz right? No thank you we haven't recorded that bit yet but I bet it's great. Also big thanks to. Unless she tanked. Unless she tanked. Yikes. If she tanked then no thanks.

With. Big thanks. Your ball. I saw Wing and I Missed from Liz Gilbert. I think if she bombs she's back to Elizabeth. We can't be buds anymore. Big old thanks to John Roderick in the long winters for the Use for Theme song. It's a departure off the album Putting the Days to Bed an album everyone should own and she was required listening. Required purchasing is that album. Thank you John Roderick. Should we close it out? Yeah close it out girlfriend you got one more Yahoo. And thank you everybody for listening. Yeah here we go. It's finally Yahoo. It's sent in by True Davenport. Thank you Drew Davenport forever. It's by Yahoo answers

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