My Brother, My Brother And Me - MBMBaM 781: Jolly Green Gundam
Episode Date: September 22, 2025We’re in the scary months, no thanks to Greek emperor Augustus. But it’s the perfect time to cozy up and exchange silly jokes about supernatural creatures like Mobius, Manbat, and The Rockscar.Sug...gested talking points: Batapp, Dracula Hates Sans Serifs, Jeff Boy-R-Dee, Acrustus Caesar, The Traving MachineEquality Florida: https://www.eqfl.org/
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The McElroy brothers are not experts, and their advice should never be followed.
Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it.
Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening.
What's up, you cool, baby?
It's the start of something beautiful.
A small acquaintance has blossomed. It's rapping.
A precious friendship
I could have never seen
What was coming for me
Hangs at the skate park
Hangs by the beach
My life
It feels live
Life
It's better
It's better with you
My life
Ah
It's better
It's better with you
This is true
It's better, it's better with two
My way
Oh, it's better with you
Hello everybody
Welcome to my brother, my brother
Me and advice show for the modern era
I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy
What's up, Trave Nation?
It's me your middleist brother,
Travis Big Dog, Vroom, Vroom, Woof, Wolf, Maceroy.
What's up, Trav Nation?
Glad to be here.
Thanks for having me, sweet baby brother,
30 under 30, Griffin McRoy.
Guys, I've been having a lot of trouble sleep,
lately and it's just occurred to me that now that we're in the spooky month maybe I'm a teen wolf I don't think we are in October September September is pretty scary too yeah yeah but that newspeg of like now we're in the spooky month it's mid to no it's spooky months
spooky months so we all know you count you count September is one of the scary ones yeah man November September October
November, the three scary ones.
Even the beginning of December
can be like scary, snowy,
Nordic, vampire, let the right one in.
December, January, February,
the cold ones, March, April, May,
the spring ones. June,
July, August, the hot ones.
Yeah. I agree with this
seasonal thing. I've been
Mr. Let's use the
months of separators from the beginning,
but
I don't, this is just fall. It's not the spooky
months. Like you can't have three spooky months.
Okay, I'm sorry, Justin, our bats trying to kill you in all the other months?
Or just the spooky ones?
Thank you.
You know, Justin, some thousands of years ago, scientists aren't sure when, a guy named Augustus Caesar said, you know what?
Ten months?
No more.
I'm going to add in months for me.
Yes.
And my dad, so I'm adding in July and August.
And everybody said, okay, cool, man.
We've numbered the months.
September is the 7th.
is the 8th, November is the 9th, December is the 10th, so you'll go at the end, and he said,
no, no, no, no. I'm going to jam them in the middle there and really fuck up the whole numbering
system. And everybody said, okay, cool, man. So I think, Justin, we can do whatever the fuck we want.
It's all made up pretend. Yeah. Animals don't know the months, Justin. Animals don't know the month,
except for bats, because they do know when are the good months to kill you. Groundhogs know when
February is. Yes. How do bats know when to change into Dracula's?
It's not a Dracula thing.
Dracula's make-believe.
And saying that is really making light of the threat of that bats want to kill you
and sit in October.
Also, Justin, to be fair, Dracula turns into bats.
Bats don't turn into Dracula.
It would be crazy if a bat turns into Dracula.
Did you have a thing?
Did you have a thing?
Did you have a thing?
I said my thing.
We're doing it, man.
That's your whole thing.
That was your whole.
It was kind of a conversation starter ice break.
But we found a lot of rich veins, right?
Like, I want to talk about bat Dracula, a bat who turns into a man and is then like,
Because, like, he doesn't understand how to operate a body.
He doesn't know how to walk.
He doesn't know how to pee.
He doesn't know how to fuck.
My favorite Batman villain is Manbat.
Because I bet when he ran into him, he was like, fuck, they got me.
They said one thing that I can't do, they saw the inverse of me, and they got all the parts of me that are a man.
And Man Bat's parents very much alive is the other thing.
We don't talk about that enough.
He has extra parents.
we were in Austin
during one of the months
where bats are allowed to kill you
if we have been too close to that bridge
come sundown guys
we would have been absorbed in the cloud
and turned into bones
like Mobius
a lot like that
I don't think that was his name
was it was Morbius
wasn't it doesn't matter
no one cares to spoil the end of Morbius
I'm sorry everybody
he gets sucked into bass
and turned into bones
no he turns into five bats
and then clouds a guy
who turns into bones
That's how Moribia sends.
Okay.
Man, that movie sounds really good.
It's pretty cool.
Five bats isn't enough to hide sort of the peeling and stripping.
If the bats are big enough, I guess.
No, they don't, it's not their job to hide the scary thing that they're doing.
It's their job to eat.
Yep.
Do you think Dracula's ever compare the size of bat they turn into when they turn into bats?
I bet if you're a Dracula who turns into a really big bat when you turn,
You get to brag a lot to your friends.
Yeah.
I mean, for me, the big thing is how many bats do you turn into?
Because I want you to be able to turn into a few of them.
Okay, would you rather turn into five little bats or one big bat?
Yeah, good question.
Do you want to be a swarm of bats or do you want to turn into one big bat?
Swarm of bats is weird because I am still controlling them.
So how is that?
How am I up in?
Hi, mine.
Okay.
Okay, but if one of my swarm of bats gets killed and I turn back is like my finger gone,
Yep.
Yeah.
Oh, bummer.
It's actually how you've been...
But if the one bat gets killed, like, you know what I'm saying?
If the one bat gets killed, it's you, you will die.
Yeah.
I don't think that's true.
I do think there is a...
He gets a second chance if he dies as a bat.
He kind of like, he comes back.
No, I think if you die in the bat, you die in real...
I don't think so, man.
I think...
Okay, would you rather turn into a swarm of bats or one big bat in an armored mecks
suit that protects you from violence.
Yeah.
Do you know what the, if we were doing a Dracula movie, do you know it would be sweet?
Like, if he turned into a swarm of bats and they were like, fuck, he's one of those.
But then he like reconforms into one big bat.
So he's like got three forms.
There's like big bat, swarm, and then Dracula, just as a gentleman going about his day.
The regular Dracula who could like do banking and stuff.
Yeah.
A lot of monsters can't do that.
He has an app.
He has an app that lets him pick
which kind of bats he wants to turn into.
Mm-hmm.
Is bad app?
That's a cool modern Dracula for me.
Yeah, dude.
Sorry.
In this, so he has an app.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is called...
Bat, app.
With no A.
It's called Pete.
It's just, pt.
And he presses, he gets to pick how many bats,
the size of the bats,
whether he wants to control all of them,
or have someone else steer some of the other bats.
At first, I would need to be one bat.
I cannot be both a bat and split into like five minds.
Yeah.
I can't take the pressure of both at once.
I bet when you first...
I want a micro-transaction for additional bats.
When you're a vampire and you first learn to turn into a swarm of bats,
I bet there's a couple times in the beginning where you're still figuring it out
and you turn back, but all your bats were in the wrong place when you turn back.
Yeah, man.
And, like, your heads on your knee and stuff, and you're like,
oh no
you gotta turn back
into a swarm of bats
and try again
yeah
the other like
really important thing
is you can't
stay a cloud of bats
for over 60 minutes
or else you get stuck
as a cloud of bats forever
yeah
yeah
and that means something
if you stay a cloud of bats
long enough
eventually the hand bats
are like
really we're the most important
ones if you think about it
and then the brain bats
are like well
if you think about
a different way
you can't think about it
without the brain bats
and then they start like
there's
infighting.
Well, they start to have their own dreams and desires and stuff.
That's when it's sentience is the, that's when you got to worry.
I've never thought about vampires.
That's what happened in, that's what happened in my left foot.
Yes.
The left foot gainsentians and became a bat and left.
That's true.
That's what happened in the film.
You didn't watch it closely enough.
The original name of the film.
I didn't watch it at all, Justin.
So that might be the problem.
The original name of the film was my lousy left foot's off again on another adventure.
Flapping his leathery wings
The original title was
My Angry Bat
Yes
And I'll tell you
The amazing thing is
Daniel Day Lewis was so committed
That he learned how to turn
Into a swarm of bats for that movie
Everyone always mentions Daniel
No one puts any respect on Brenda Fricker's name
For her job
For her turning out of him
What the fuck are you talking about Griffin?
We've done nothing but put respect
on Brenda Fricker's day for a decade
We have made space
We've made as much space
For Grigger as we can
This is an advice show
I want to talk about more vampire vultrons.
Same, same, same.
Do you guys think that vampires and Dracula, they put a little too much lore on it?
Like, they kept putting more and more and more and more stuff.
And then, like, they just never stopped until they realized they had gone too far.
I think for me, if I'm a vampire and I'm watching the whole thing develop.
Yes.
I think for me, the garlic is where I'm like, okay.
That's crazy.
We've gone far enough.
Thank you.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm just a regular garlic.
Like just regular on garlic.
I bet that sucks too because, like, yeah, maybe Dracula just didn't like garlic in his food.
He wasn't a fan.
And it became a thing.
So now, like, when they go to monster parties, everybody keeps the garlic out of everything.
But, like, damn, the vampire is like, I like, guys, you do not need to make space for this.
The whole thing about, like, they stab, the only way to kill you is stab you in the heart and then you turn into a big pile of dust.
What the fuck does that even, what are you talking about turn into dust?
Nothing works like that.
You know what I mean?
nothing works like.
What would happen to his body
that would reduce it to dust?
That's crazy.
Where does the water?
Where's the water in his body?
Well, that's why they're always drinking blood.
That would be cool.
They're so dehydrated.
Yeah.
That would be cool as if when you spiked a vampire
it turned into dust and cloud.
It was just like instantly like
or a gush, like a sudden expulsion of all liquid in the body
just a fosh and then ash remain.
Like what happens with the fremen?
When you kill the fremen and the water just prints on.
And yeah.
But then it's mud.
If it's raining into the ash, then it's mud, and he's just going to goop back out of it like.
Yeah.
That's a good point.
Reborn.
I didn't think about that, guys.
That's a good point.
I bet that vampires were super jazzed when modern mirrors were invented.
Because the whole thing with not seeing their reflection is because mirrors used to be backed with silver.
But now we don't use silver anymore.
And so vampires are like, oh, yes, I'm not the vampire.
You can see me in the mirror.
Oh, that's interesting.
So you should have a silver mirror with you
if you want to spell.
Oh, yeah, at all times.
I think you'll also probably get poisoned from it,
I imagine.
A lot of that stuff did that.
How does a vampire sort of separate out
when he's like reading a book
and there's like lowercase teas in it?
And he sees those and he's like, those are fine.
But then he sees a Christian cross
and is like, no.
That's why he hates San Seraph so much.
Yeah.
He needs the seraphs.
He will only read the seraphs.
Like, he needs the little on the T's, the little hat.
A little bit of a, like, a fun thing.
He needs it.
Because if it's sans-sariff.
Yeah.
That's why all vampire books are printed in Wing Dings.
That's good, Travis.
Thanks.
I don't want to do this show today.
I just want to goof around with Travis making vampire jokes to us.
But not me.
That's fun.
No, you and me get to just sit in our.
comfy little couch and Travis gets to make vampire jokes too.
Well, he's just not going to, we're not going to make him do a whole hour.
No, and the problem, Griffin, the problem with vampire jokes is they all suck.
I want to just cuddle up and have really actually great, Tram.
That one's actually quite good.
It is weird that we were so afraid of vampires, right?
And there's like such a, there's such a body of work about vampires are scary.
But like, if you take a step back from vampires, think about it for one second.
Vampires got to sleep in a box
Sun kills them
You know exactly where they are
Like eight to ten hours every day
They're asleep with a lot of dirt
Yeah they're asleep in a coffin
Sunlight kills them
And if they want to come to your house
You have to explicitly ask them to do so
That's why are we afraid of these guys honestly
Like we should be looking out
They should be an endangered species we should be looking out for
Do you think when a vampire sees a human being just walk into the vampire's house uninvited,
they're like, fuck, man, I know that there's no rule for you, but rude?
But it's like rude.
It sucks, dude.
It's rude.
I wouldn't do it.
Why are you here?
To fucking kill you.
Why?
Like, why, dude?
Why?
This is the early interaction I have with you guys.
I can't even open the curtains on my windows.
I don't know what time it is.
Is this just because I killed your nephew while you was?
was getting water for the horses one time.
I killed one 10-year-old nephew, and you're like,
Dracula, get him.
Did you even like him that much?
That was like nine days ago, dude.
Get over it.
His fingernails were so gross, dude.
Did you look at his fingernails?
Oh!
You should be thanking me!
I saw you eating some cow meat the other day.
Is that cow's son going to come kill you?
Come on, be cool.
Do you think Dracula?
is gluten intolerant.
This isn't, there's nothing else there to badger.
We talked about that already, like literally that exact thing in Count Donut.
We've discussed this exact topic.
At work, I've started a new role where essentially I'm the personality for a popular snack mascot.
I either write or approve everything they say.
When I tell people what I do for work, they always ask me to do the voice, but I don't do the voice.
I am just a writer.
Brothers, how can I avoid this awkwardly.
change every time I tell someone I'd do for work, it's also extra tough on me because I
asked my bosses if I could do the voice, but they said I just didn't have what they're looking
for. That's from misunderstood mascot. You should stop telling people that you are the voice and
soul of Chester Cheetah. Yeah. And people will stop asking you to do the voice. You say,
I'm the soul of, I'm the mind and soul of Chester Chita. I think it's crazy you guys
leapt immediately there. Like, it's possible, I guess. But to me,
represents like the big show this would be like george oh yeah there's a team steering chester
yes there's a whole uh network of uh data mining AI sort of probes that are that are coming up
with the i don't know that that's true i think that you want a consistency of thought process
you want to see like yes that's exactly something chester cheetah would do and right is and so you'd
Like one person.
He's called Chester Cheetah, but you can't lose the human element there.
Exactly.
Or else he's not, he isn't relatable.
Like, he is a blank canvas that, and that's what I appreciate about him is we have not
filled him to the brim with a ton of lore.
He is a cheetah who looks cool and likes to eat cheetos.
We don't need a whole biography on him past that.
We don't need, we don't need an S&ES platformer.
He also has an.
unstated danger element to him where he'll say like dangerously cheesy and like he's got a
vibe of danger to him yeah it's never specified what that is what that danger you don't want to
people think i i would love to meet chester cheetah you don't want to meet chester cheetah if
you're not going to love that experience don't meet your idols especially when they are
by their own words dangerous yeah same with tony the tiger i think if i met tony the
Tiger, he would encourage me to be more physically actually. These are jungle cats that will
fucking kill you gang. I have a list of the top 50 brand mascots. And I was wondering if
you guys, if I were to throw some at you, you guys could just give me some fresh takes.
Because I would love this job. I feel like we would be really good at this, this game.
Travis, what would. Question asker, this is not remotely what you wanted, but like, I bet it will
be helpful too.
Travis, like, let's say that you are the one, you're the one who's now in charge of Snuggle Bear.
Like, how are you making Snuggle Bear more relevant to refer to, like, today's market?
I think seeing somebody, oh, they've just had a really stressful, maybe, like, first day of college where, like, they bumped into somebody and they got yelled at a bunch, and, like, maybe their professor was really mean to them, and they're just sitting there, and they're really, like, freaking out, and Snuggle Bear comes over with, like, a warm, fluffy blanket, and he puts the blanket over their shoulders, and he says, I'll just.
take care of it.
And then we see Stemblebeer ripping into the throat
of everyone who was mean to him.
Yeah.
Shit, that's cool.
That's actually cool.
I don't know that it's going to move a lot of fabric softener, but...
No, it's not going to sell a lot of years.
He's smothering them with a blanket.
And while smothering them, the people are also saying, so soft.
That's cool.
Griffin, Griffin, yeah.
We all know that Chef Boy R.D. is America's most beloved chef,
but no one gives a shit about him anymore.
So how would you bring Chef?
Boy R.D. into
2025.
Big social media presence to start things out, to lay the groundwork.
And it's going to be stuff like Chef Boy R.D.
edited into, like, anime music videos.
Like, a lot of fans.
A lot of fan sort of cuts that attack on Titan, all kinds of other sort of like stuff.
That My Hero Academia kind of like, hold up for a hero.
Is he a giant?
Is Chef Boyardee a giant in the...
No, you're watching clip...
And this is not on TV so you can use clips.
Whatever.
You do it.
There's no laws, basically.
There's no laws, whatever.
But it's like clips from Attack on Titan and...
Baruto and, like, all of those guys.
And then, like, in there...
But it's coming from Chef Boyardee's channel.
It's like his channel.
And he doesn't even mention the fact that it is Chef Boyardee
until, like, the comments of everyone is like,
hey great anime fan edit chef boy rd so like the buzz is getting out there in a really organic
way um and then i don't think you really honestly have to do much more than that these days
then i counterpoint that i would love you too chef man rd and now he's a ripped dude and he's like got
kind of that like sexy santa cla okay hold on sexy santa claus vibe you know make any of them hot like
Of course, yeah, like, make them hot.
Also, Jeff Boyardee would be great.
It's just a guy.
Jeff Boyardee is real.
We should get Chef Boyd into Master Jeff this year just to, like, give him a shot at something.
Jeff Boyardee.
Jeff Boyardee, Travis, I got, I got one word for you.
Affleck.
You know?
Affleck.
I want to see that duck after work.
I want to see that duck go home.
and we see like
maybe some unpaid bills
maybe like
photographs with somebody ripped out of them
right he's gone through some hard times
and he at home
he feels so empty and alone
and the only time he feels alive is when he's screaming
aflac in people's faces
and it gives us like he doesn't do this
for the money right
He does it.
This is a service.
This is something he does from his heart.
Sorry.
I'm trying to listen, but on the page I have shared that has the mascots,
inexplicably, there is a Robin Williams memorial airing in the bottom right in the corner of the window.
And I'm trying to watch, but there's this tiny little Robert Williams Memorial that was playing.
Guys, it was really moving.
He taught us all to laugh.
I mean, it's a kick-ass Patch Adams.
The kick-house patch items bid he's doing.
But, yeah, back to the game.
Back to the game.
Oh, hey, listen, what if it was just me, Justin McRoy?
And it was a video.
And I'm like, hi, I'm the Gerber baby.
I'm doing fine.
Yeah.
I'm okay.
You know, the food worked out.
I grew up, and I lived, and it all worked out fine.
So it's good baby food.
I ate the food.
I did eat the food.
And I, some of it's pretty good, guys.
Like, and I'm not getting, I am getting paid to say that.
Like, I'm the Gerber baby, so people ask.
It comes up.
I think you could take, I'm looking at the screen here, Justin.
Get the Quaker Oats, man, but take him a kind of a witch hunter kind of vibe.
We're also thinking he should hunt with.
Sugary, sugary cereals are, like, deeply sinful and demonic.
Yeah, yeah, let him come in and, like, burn the tricks rabbit of the steak or something.
Old time, dark ages, family drama, a la the witch.
and Quaker Oats
Man is the father
and like
and sorry guys
get into the religion
more Quaker Oats
you guys are leaving a lot
on the table
There's a huge part of it guys
It's like a huge part of it guys
And you really aren't
When I eat Quaker Oats
I'm not getting a message
Do you know what I mean
And that is gonna put it
In certain people's hearts and minds
Quaker like
Quaker makes
Chewy granola
Strawberry crispy clusters
Like, is that, it feels judgmental to have the Quaker looking at me from that box.
Like, that is, I'm not inhabiting the Quaker lifestyle with that.
You know what I mean?
No way.
It's a gift to be chewy.
Tis a gift to be strawberry.
That's good, man.
Tricks.
I would just change the name.
Just change the trick's name of the Tricks rabbit.
To what?
To what?
To what?
Trinks.
Dracks.
With an end.
Dracks.
Trinks.
We got Drax now.
It's my cereal.
Guardian to the Galaxy?
Yeah.
We replaced Tricks Rabbit with Drax.
That's easy.
That one's easy.
I would not be surprised if I mentioned Tricks cereal and you're like, no, Disney does actually own, through a series of mergers, they do own Tricks cereal and also the nickel.
What is the Jolly Green Giant?
Is he a vegetable?
Are you ready for this?
The Jolly Green Gundam.
that's cool
fuck
that's cool
he might end up
in a chef boy
RV fan edit
too which would be cool
jolly green
I know right
Johnny green
Gundam is good
can they sue us for that
probably not
I mean if we don't
do anything with it
which our track record says
we won't
what about like hanging in there
Green Giant
and it's like
being a little bit
more emotionally honest
about how he's do
like how he's doing
but the brand is going to
what about on Molly Green Giant
He's just really feeling colors and tasting light.
I think, you know, he's having a great time.
Just destroying the countryside beneath his giant sort of like stoned body as he just kind of vibes around.
I want him to be more representative of my relationship with cereal.
So like when he sees me, he's like, hey, Justin, I rubbed oil all over me and all the herbs you like.
And I roasted myself for 450 degrees for a half hour.
I'm like, ready to go.
Ready for you to eat me.
I want him to be more appetizing.
You know what I mean?
Like the idea of a giant man.
You want to be more interested in eating the jolly green giant?
He could look more like food.
I would like him to feel more like sentient food because right now he's kind of an uncanny
valley situation where he's like, can I eat him or not?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You want clarity.
I want clarity.
You want veggie tales.
When you watch veggie tales, you know the second you see one of those guys whether or not you would pop up.
Why are we listening to a bear about fire?
right yeah i would wonder about smoky the bear is so interesting what if he was a person
who had a diploma yeah about it and he was like i would rather you did it you know what i mean
like i don't trust a bear he could be trying to chase me to better places to eat me you know what
me like don't lie a campfire because then i'll be scared of it and i can't come eat you
basically i have a theory on this which is i believe that the bear was chosen
As opposed to say a deer or a squirrel, a more relatable forest animal, because of the implied threat of like, only you can prevent forest fires or else.
Right.
And that shit doesn't work on me.
I do not.
You, I think you catch a lot more flies with honey than whatever smoky bear is trying to set down by being subconsciously pretty frightening.
The only reason.
It's just a huge.
The only reason to make McGruff the crime dog human size.
is to give the implication that he can arrest an adult and take him to jail.
Correct.
Like you need to be able to, because McGruff could solve crimes with just his snout,
leading the proper authorities to the criminals.
But he has to be man-sized because you need to know that when he does track him down,
he can fist-fight them.
Like, he can fight them physically.
How much money do you think of a cost to get an edit of Airbud that someone touches up with VFX?
or whatever where he is a five foot 10 inch tall bipedal dog man who's like so guys did
I make the team like he's like the dog police video but it's 90 minutes long and yeah it sounds
good man I'd love to watch a full sentient adult size airbud I would be more into a more friendly
figure for my forest fire prevention I would love like a crunchy like your crunchy friend
Kyle, your earthy, crunchy
friend Kyle. That would be better for me in
vegetables, I think. Ronald
McDonald is one of my
favorites, because he is one
of the few that they just
won't for a few years. You know,
they'll go years and be
like, Ronald, no, I don't
think so. They've made
such a big deal about Grimmis. Like, Grimmis
is uncanceled guys. We're bringing him back
out of retirement. It's like, that's great. I
haven't seen Ronald's ass
yeah since fucking 2020 like where is he i think it's time it's time for ronald to go cyber
if you ask me it's time for cyber ronald a fully digitized out of the computer vr experience i
like that that's cool is he and i know you're saying travis that seems like a lot of buzzwords
without any follow-up you didn't say what it would be but that's but you're interested let me fill
in the gap let him my imagination yeah
4K.
Fuck yeah, dude.
Yeah, man.
Crypto.
Oh, dude.
Yeah, buddy.
This is new gen.
Next wave.
Next wave, Ronald.
Next wave, Ronald.
That's right.
Fully digital.
I would find it a lot cooler to find out that you wrote all the ad copy for the Little Caesars guy,
which is, I'm guessing, sort of a mid-range kind of mascot job.
I think he only says the one thing, Griffith.
You're right, I pick the worst imaginable example.
But I do love the idea of the reason there hasn't been any new dialogue is because it's like,
I can't think of anything else he would say.
It's not in character.
No, it's not that, Travis.
It's an exercise and a display of unfathomable restraint.
There's a whole team of writers every week they get together in the conference room and bring up their best shit.
Like, how about check this out.
Pizza, pizza?
I'm like, no, sorry, it's not broken, guys.
It's still the best it could possibly be.
but keep grinding.
There must have been a point
with the little Cesar's
where they said,
what if he just says pizza?
And they're like, that's not it.
And then someone said,
what about pizza, pizza, pizza?
And they're like,
I think that's too much.
We gotta.
And then somebody said,
I know, just two times.
And they said,
fuck, dude.
They did it two times
because they used to give you
two pizzas in a very long box.
And that was the whole angle
as it wasn't very good,
but at least there's two of them.
Now they have to lie on puffs.
What does that have to do with Caesar?
Why was that connected
to
Caesar in any way.
It's a Greek style.
It's a Greek style pie. It's a Greek style pie.
He made the first pizza.
Oh, the famous
Greek Emperor Caesar? Is that what you're saying,
Justin? Greek and Rome, a lot of
people are still kind of, you know.
Uh-huh. The same time.
Travis, those two
happened the same time and all their shit.
Historians agree. They were all about columns.
They all had columns and robes and togas.
And it's all kind of a similar.
That's the second time we talked about Caesar.
this episode.
Yeah.
They all had different.
But which one?
But which one?
I don't know.
All this stuff, Travis, all this mythology, it happened so long ago, and they have a lot
of the same kind of.
Acrustus Caesar.
Acrustus Caesar, is that the name of the little Caesar's mascot?
I've decided it is, yes.
He probably has one.
It probably has one, and it's probably great.
You know, Little Nero's Pizza isn't real.
Just didn't home alone.
Okay.
So it's not real
I mean it isn't home alone
But no
That's real
Ovalone's not real
It's not a real
You can't be like it's real
In a made up movie
Yeah
Let's go the money zone
Because it's clearly
A red face
Travis that was the fucking
Perfect transition
You ruined it
Damn it dude I nailed it
And you killed it
I want to try to get
Hey guys
For real
Hey guys
The Matrix isn't real
You would say that though
You would say that until you realized you were wrong
Looks real when you watch The Matrix
You're like whoa really
But it's not actually
It didn't happen
But it stars my friend Morbius
No man no man
No Morbius turned into a cloud of bats
It flew into the sky
We've covered this
Right okay sorry
Yeah I switched them again
Let's go to the money zone
It's not as good as the last one
But it'll have to do
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You know what I mean?
It feels like the new start of it
Because like going back to school
And that kind of thing
At a great time
The page is being turned
You know
It's a new chat
It's just being turned.
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Hey, Juice, we were over at your house a month or so ago, and I just,
want to say kitty cats look yeah man both the kitties are looking really good their coats are
looking thick and lustrous and i think griffin you sounded really out like there for a second yeah not in a
hungry way smalls is the is the reason by the way it's a it's a it's a cat food that i've been given
them it comes in these little packages it comes frozen in a big box you take out what you need
and then you're open in a fresh pack of delicious food that your cat's going to be wild for smooth
smooth cow other bird they love all the flavors of smooth i'm kind of a smooth bird you're a smooth
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Is that man a melmite?
That's Melmite, yeah, because it's, again, one of the, is, there's not much.
It's a little, stinky, onk.
It's like that stinky onk-shaped talisman that I carry around.
You remember. That's for Alfs.
Hey, guys, I just want to talk about something that has become really important to me.
yeah thank you uh it's hard you know goal setting is like really important and it's really
important to like sort of have things you're working towards goal tending is too um so i'm a heartbeat
of the team i have found myself surprisingly caring about something a great deal and it's something
i just want to start get the conversation going because it's never too early i want to talk i want to talk
about the rocks oscar or as i'm calling it the roxker the roxer yeah for
The Smashing Machine?
Yes. We have seen now, I've been
I don't think Delighted
is too strong word, with every
piece of Smashing Machine, advertising
that I get, I am happier
that there is a movie called The Smashing
Machine and it stars The Rock.
Sure. Good. Good, good. It is a true
story of a UFC fighter
and it is
being compared
probably by the Rock, most
of all, I would think, in private
to make you Rourke's star turn in the
in the conversation starting to turn towards whether or not the Rock is going to get the Rock's
culture or not.
Do you think, I bet, unlike most people where they are like, oh, they're doing this to get
the Oscar, I bet that the Oscars went to the Rock and we're like, we have wanted to give
you one of these for so long, please just do a movie that we can even remotely justify giving
it to you.
Please let us give you an Oscar.
Please fuck with a softie.
Please get with one of the softies.
We will not tell you which one.
Either one's going to get you there.
The Rock got, after the Smashing Machine,
premiered.
It received...
It's out now?
Well, it premiered at the festival circuit.
Travis, Travis, Travis, come back.
Travis, come back.
It's not out yet.
It premiered on the festival circuit and received a 15-minute standing evasion.
end of it, during which
the Rock reportedly cried uncontrollably.
Okay.
For 15 straight minutes?
Okay, guys.
Hey, no, no, I do not want to sound like I am judging
the Rocker's emotional, vulnerable.
Amazing, but 15 minutes of crying,
hard, uncontrollable crying.
The ovation lasted for 15 minutes.
I'm going to go ahead and start a timer just so we,
just so we get an idea.
I'm like, imagine the movie just ended.
And we're cheering for
the rock, right?
You can't have that going in the show, though,
because it'll reveal how much of our shit, Rachel,
it's out.
When you're like, and there's our 15 minutes.
All those jokes are gone.
Now, here's that.
I want to make it clear.
I believe that everyone should be able to cry
when the spirit moves them.
It's fine.
I can.
I'm trying to picture
the giant man that I know as the rock
crying uncontrollably.
I bet it's scary.
I bet it's crazy.
If he loses control.
I, listen, they teach us not to editorialize when you're learning the AP style.
And I don't think you can ever know the contents of another person's heart.
I have to say, I assume that after you are a wrestling professional, you are always in control of your emotions.
He can't afford to not be.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Sure.
Sure.
It's got to be tough.
You can't get angry.
You can't get angry while you're out there because you could hurt somebody.
That's what the Smashing Machine is kind of all about.
You can't get sad out there or you'll get smashed.
The Rock?
Which is also one of the core messages of the smashing machine.
Emotions lead to smashing.
The Rock has been wearing sunglasses.
And that, sorry, not sunglasses.
The Rock has been wearing glasses at some of these events.
And that is starting to make people think maybe it's time for the Rocksker.
You know, maybe this is the moment because he's wearing glasses.
The glasses.
glasses maybe because he's going for
an evolution and there's
some other clues too and that's really
what I wanted to bring you guys here for
the Rock's been doing a lot of
promotion for the
smashing machine a lot of interviews
and I think the Ross
the more you say the name of the movie
the more it sounds like a fun
fake title we came up with
for an actual movie and here
and I gathered some of
the Ross's quotes
about his work during the film because he's been
he's been out there promoting it
and I just wanted to share some of it
with you guys
this transformation
was something I was really hungry to do
I had been very fortunate to have the career
that I've had over the years
and to make the films that I've made
but there was just a voice inside of me
a little voice that said
well what if I could do more
I want to do more
and what does that look like
I've been scared to go deep and intense and raw
until now until I had this opportunity
to do this. When you're in Hollywood, as we all know, it had become about box office and you
chase the box office. And the box office in our business is very loud. It can push you,
this is what the Rock said. It can push you into a corner and a category. This is your lane.
This is what you do. And this is what people want you to be. This is what Hollywood wants you to be.
And I understood that. I made these movies and I liked them and they were fun and so we're really good.
and did well, and so I'm not so good.
I think what I did realize is I just had this burning desire
and this voice that was just saying,
what if there's more?
What if I can?
Do we get to vote on Oscars?
Do we get to decide?
What would we have to do to be voters for Oscars?
Because I'm doing my part.
I can't take out of billboard outside Rodeo Drive, okay?
I want to help.
I want to reward what I just heard.
He's been fighting so far and hard, guys.
Can I tell you, I was struck in that statement.
There's a beautiful childlike naivete as he's like,
is there more than just doing big man punching movies?
I don't know.
Don't dismiss a million billion big man.
Yeah, like 100,000 million billion big man punching movies.
But that he's sitting there like, what does it even look like for the rock to
do some like real act and I'm like, should I try acting more deeper?
The great thing about following the Roxker as I have been is that the people who are covering
the rock sker don't actually have the vocabulary to understand what the rock sker means.
So they are buying it.
Here's a real line from the variety story about the premiere of the smashing machine.
Before the screening started, one fan.
shouted Johnson's signature
W.W.E. Line. Can you
smell what the rock is cooking? Prompting
laughter from the man of the hour.
The Rock's going to get his Oscar, guys.
He's going to get his fucking Oscar.
These people are not getting it. He wasn't a dick about it.
Yeah. He didn't pull a Billy Bob Thornton
where he'd be like, uh, would you ask
Brad Pitt about his, uh, cooking YouTube that he does?
Like, he's, he owns it. He knows where he came from and he's proud of it.
I'm also, I'm thinking of a lot of, like, got an Oscar and then ended up doing big man action movies.
He wants to have it the other way.
Yeah, there's a Stallone, you know, Stallone paved the way of, like, got that Rocky for writing, I believe.
And then said, now I'm just going to be action guy from now on.
Yeah.
And now he's the King of Tulsa.
Now he's the King of Tulsa.
Enough said.
That's true.
the rock continues in this same junket, like same junket, same tour.
These are all from the same junket.
Sometimes it's hard to know what you're capable of when you've been pigeonholed into something.
It's harder to know, wait, can I do that?
I feel like I can.
And sometimes it takes people who love you and respect you to say you can.
The rock!
Guys, the rock is like, I feel like I've been pigeonholed.
into being the rock yeah man it says in your contract you can't lose fights the rock yeah man i think
you've been pigeonholed i think you've had a role in that pigeonholing i think it's cool to watch
him do this shadow work out in front of all it like yeah i have to do this in a mirror the rock
gets to do in front of reporters and this is what those safty's duty this is how those safties
fucking get you guys remember do you guys fucking remember what the sandman used to be like
like before those safeties got their fucking claws in him
and turned him into like an introspective sort of artist.
It's like, man, it's cool and I'm happy to see it.
But also, there's not, we're not going back, guys.
I'll say this, though, it's very inspiring to me
because if someone like, even the rock can be pigeonholed into something,
maybe I've been pigeonholed into something, you know?
I've never really thought about it.
You got to wonder, Trave, are you maybe, are you maybe, have you,
are you being punished or like tormented in the same way that the rock is that by i wear
glasses he's wearing glasses look at this he was different he and i he's wearing glasses
glasses i don't those are fucking cool glasses yeah because he's the rock man they probably cost
four thousand dollars and are made by cardier you know sorry but that's maybe it's time for me
to try they're 1400 maybe i should be in the smashing machine too okay that's not that
okay we'll talk about i want to be in the smashing machine too travi you can't be in this
You can't be in the smashing machine.
No, Smashing Machine number two.
You can't.
It'll be a long time before they make Smashing Machine.
You can't because you got to fight the Rock for it.
And let me tell you where the Rock is at.
I'm at a point in my career or what I want to push myself in ways that I've not pushed myself in the past.
I want to make films that matter that explore humanity and explore struggle and pain.
So remember in the future, when the Rock is in films that don't do that, he's doing it against his will.
Because that is not what he wants to do.
Or in his head.
Guys, I've got it.
I'm going to write a biopic about myself, starring the Rock as me.
I'll get the Oscar for Screamplay.
For the Traving Machine.
He gets the Oscar for the Traving Machine.
Yes.
Starring the Rock as Travis McRoy.
Damn it.
They want me to throw the podcast.
What does that mean?
They got me for podcast betting.
What are you talking?
Yeah, I was fixing podcasts.
What is you, what is that mean?
They're hearing.
a better representation of podcasting than Alex Inc. says variety.
Movies seem to struggle with basic cause and effect sort of storytelling, but beats the pants off Alex.
This is the last one. I looked around a few years ago and I started to think, you know, guys, okay, this is what the Rock said to people, right?
Like, in my head, before I answer...
Okay.
I looked around a few years ago, and I started to think, you know, am I living my dream
or am I living other people's dreams?
The Rock doesn't know that?
The Rock doesn't...
How am I supposed to answer that question for myself?
Is the Rock living my dream in which the Rock is a huge star and maybe gets a roster?
Wait, am I living the Rock's dream and he's living my dream and we somehow switch bodies?
You can come to that recognition.
And I think you either fall in line.
Well, it's status quo
Things are good
I don't want to rock the boat
You know you either keep doing
The multi-million dollar
movies or go
I want to live my dreams now
And do what I want to do
And tap into the stuff
That I want to tap into
And have a place
Finally
To put all this stuff
That I've experienced in the past
And that I've shied away from
I've been scared to go deep
And intense and raw until now
Until I had this opportunity
Keep going, King
Like you're, yeah
Yeah, man.
Keep it going.
We're all rude for you.
By way, I'm not a watcher of Young Rock.
I guess you don't cover this territory in the biopic about your young life, which
just seemed like missed opportunity.
If I wanted to dig into sort of my unpacked stuff, one way that I might do that
is a series about my youth, The Rock.
Yeah, but that was, he wasn't here yet.
Young Rock has so much work to do before he gets to rock.
I also think that there is an implied parenthetical stuff.
at the end of all these quotes that's like,
and now I have so much money that I don't have to worry about box office anymore
and I can make some of this shit.
He's not, he's making the smashing machine.
If you want to make art, come to do a podcast.
That's where the podcast.
Thank you.
You're welcome to be here and I will eat every bad word I've ever said about you.
I love The Rock.
I just feel like no one is doing the work that we are doing for The Rock right now.
Have you seen Jumanji?
In his day-to-day life.
You should have gotten an Oscar for Jumanji.
Yeah.
Yeah, he should have got an Oscar for Jumanji.
Thank you.
I'm going to a bachelor party at an Airbnb next weekend.
The amenities include a hot tub and arcade, but also a laundry room.
How can I surreptitiously do my laundry at the party without it being weird?
Yes.
Some additional notes.
We're only there one night.
It is in town.
I have to pay to do my laundry at my apartment, so this will save me money.
Thank you.
Cool.
the logistics are easy i think we could probably chip those in pretty i mean you bring a big
suitcase no one's going to fucking say anything why it's one night for one night why such a big
suitcase they definitely will try again medicine uh oh medicine i'm super sick this is my final farewell
well no like no you wouldn't say all that why would you tell your friends you're dying
to cover up doing laundry i didn't say that i say it's personal say it's a personal reason
for why it's so big.
And they're not going to ask anymore
if they do, they're not your friends.
And they'll say, why does it stink
like old dirty clothes so much?
And you say,
medical reasons,
former friend.
Like, the logistics are so easy.
We don't have to sweat those.
It doesn't.
You're making them seem actually harder
than I imagine them to be
before the question.
If you're in town,
here's what you do.
You just keep offering
to run out
and get more stuff for the party,
but you're going back to your apartment
and getting another load of laundry
and bringing it back and forth.
That's good.
That's good.
You need some sort of...
Oh, you're big Coke.
You have a big coat on, too.
That helps, and you're wearing all the laundry.
Some sort of Easter egg hunt or scavenger hunt
or something would give them, just to get them out of the house for a while.
Well, I was going to say to give you an excuse
for, like, continually ducking in,
like, there's got to be one around here.
You know, like, if you said that, like, really loud,
like, there's got to be a clue around here somewhere.
You can cover doing your laundry.
That's cool.
And you need to tell, are the other people...
If they're like, why are you going into the laundry room so much,
you can be like a scavenger hunt, you know what I mean?
For one.
No, they're playing too.
There is a scavenger hunt.
Like, you've organized it.
I just need a moment of quiet reflection in scavenger hunting.
Yeah, we don't use that excuse enough when someone's like,
what are you doing, just wondering around, what are you looking for?
You should be able to just say, like, eggs.
Clearly, the implication is that you would organize the hunt.
Like, you would have to organize it, clearly.
I'm looking for hidden eggs.
Oh, or hidden cameras.
That, Travis, I like that.
You can't be too careful of these Airbnbs.
It could be.
Yeah, but you just keep going in the laundromes.
Do you want to check, like, the bedrooms?
They try to watch.
That's where they try to monitor.
They want to take pictures of your filthy panties.
Nobody better be doing any laundry in my laundry room.
I'll tell you this right now.
Now, if I went to a bachelor party, if I, because I've lived in apartments where I had to pay to do my laundry and stuff.
And if I went to a bachelor party in an Airbnb and another guest there brought their laundry to do for free, the feeling I would feel is deep envy and anger at myself.
And hey, that's actually probably going to be your biggest issue.
Everyone else has done it too.
And there's only the one washer dryer.
You're going to have to coordinate and try not to mix up your underwear.
I don't.
What's wrong?
Just Travis saying that really threw me for a loop.
Whether you don't want to mix up your underwears with each other
if you throw your clothes together.
No, just be calling it your underwear.
That's because of the rim.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
It made me think of that.
What if you went to everybody in the party
and you got one piece of dirty clothes
from each of them and you put it in with-
As a getting-to-know-you game?
No, like you, so the rock has just finished his applause break.
Wow, that's a huge amount of time to be taking that energy
from a big crowd.
I think it was a constant level the whole time.
It had to be dips, and they're like, he's looking, he's still crying.
Maybe we should keep going.
Okay, he's still at it.
Yeah, the variety headline is, the rock smashing machine received seven minutes standing ovation.
And then about a nine or ten second gap where it seemed like things were slowing down.
And then another good 14.
Maybe they clapped until he cried.
They're clapping and they're like, he's right on the end.
Do it, baby.
We only got him.
Do it, you big pussy.
Let's see the waterworks.
You're such a great actor.
Come on.
Do it.
I want to smell what you're cooking.
Woo!
The smashing machine received a 50 minute.
Very directed standing of it.
Very targeted.
It was all the iron sheik.
That's what's crazy about it.
He was just standing out.
Yelling at the rock.
Wouldn't it be fucking...
There should be one...
If he gets up to do the speech,
someone should hit him with a chair.
I'm just saying that when he gets up to get the Rockscar,
Bradley Cooper,
it can't.
Oh, I went to Martin Short, but...
Martin Short?
No, he'd kill Martin Short.
Wait, is he going to strike back?
Martin Short hits him with a chair.
The Rock's like, uncontrollable.
Guys, this is where he's at with this film, right?
I wouldn't push it.
Oh, he's tapped into his feelings now.
Yeah, he's easy.
He's the full power of the rock.
He's cracked wide open.
If you go to everybody in the party and you say, hey, give me one piece of your clothing.
And then you put it in with your clothes and then you start washing them.
Nobody can say anything because they discover it.
You're like, oh, that's interesting.
Check out this sock.
Huh.
I guess I'm not the bad guy.
I guess we're all culpable now.
I guess we're all criminals.
Huh.
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I don't know at what point an album stops being new.
New to you?
It's hard to be a few.
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Thanks, funny.
Do we have a final fear?
We do. Yeah, I'll read it.
This year, I'm going to be faster
than my fear of trees
but only at night.
My name's Justin McElroy.
I'm Travis McElroy.
I'm Griffin McElroy.
To be my brother, my brother.
Kiss your dad's square on the lips.
It's better, it's better with you
My life!
Ah, ah, ah, it's better, it's better with you.
Yes, it's true, ah, it's better, it's better with two.
My life!
Ah, ah, ah, it's better with you.
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