My Brother, My Brother And Me - MBMBaM 787: Man Vs Kramer Vs Wild Vs Predator

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

SHOW US YOUR DRAWERS! Do you keep your knives and your butter knives together, throwing caution to the wind? Maybe there's bees in there, in the guise of a baby? Or some seasonal coffee that's only 23 years out of date?Suggested talking points: So Tired of Verse-ing, 30 Burger King Commercials Looped, Fork Fencing, Ass Up, Blade Down, Peter Remnolds' Predatory Practices, I'm Trying to Smell What the Rock is CookingNative American Aid: https://nativepartnership.org/naa/

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Oh, it's better with you Hello everybody and welcome to my brother, my brother Meant Advice show for the modern era I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy What's up, Travis, brother, Travis, Big Dog, Vroom, Vroom, McElroy Hey, what's up, Travee Nation, it's me your sweet baby brother 30-130 media luminary Griffin McRoy You just hear those sleigh bells wringling

No, it's not even Halloween yet We're on the creep. It is when this comes out. Fucking Cattle Nights Crete, baby, we're on it. When this comes out, Trave, think about it. But our births haven't even happened yet. I almost said my birthday, Justin. Apologies.

There's a foren't. No worries, brother, no worries. We'll get yours in there, but it's going to slot into an open space in the Candle Nights Creek because I'm already putting my holiday plans together, boys. We don't. Have you heard? Have you heard? Do you know where your-

Angel? What is the angel told you? The angel came down from the big star. And he said, what's your ass doing on? December 11th. I said, you cuss? He said, fuck, yeah, I cuss. About this. I can't sin. He said, you know, Rowan Atkinson? I said, yeah. And the angel that came out from the big star was like, he is completing his circuit of the traditional conflict structures in classical literature. Oh, he's going for the canon. He's going for the whole thing. He's got man versus man.

Yeah. Love actually. Man versus nature. man versus Johnny English Man versus himself Bean Bean Man versus society Blackadder Man versus machine is rat race

Rat race Yeah because that's a bunch of different Yes Man versus B Unlike not a lot of people Hit that one But I think just B movie And man versus B

Yeah Those are only two If you know Euripides or some of your great playwrights had done all the classics, they would have gotten to... If they had lived longer... Life expectancy back then was like, you were 15 years old and you beefed it. If you made it longer, they would have gotten to Man versus B, but now...

Can I also just say, because I invoked the name, I watched an explainer video of B movie recently. It makes me mad that we haven't talked about it more. What are you talking about? Let me. Are you immortal? An explainer video about the B movie? Yeah, man. The way you spend your time.

Mike's Mike makes some really good video content, and he did a whole thing about the B movie. Rowan has completed the canon with man let me say it the name man versus baby man versus baby the last one man versus baby December 11th Netflix just to be clear Griffin it's not man versus B A E B-E B-E right it's not his girlfriend to be I heard so like there's fucking nothing about this film out there and it comes out in like five weeks it comes out quite soon thank you yes i have heard just from some like you know set side scuttle but that at the end of the movie the baby burst open and it was actually 200 vs that was like pranking him like wicker man i haven't seen it sort of a wicker man situation um the first one was a mini series wasn't it this one is also a four part 30 minute episode mini series just make it a two hour movie guys Give us a movie.

The math isn't something I could put on my shelf. Please. I can't have a cinema premiere. Where's the criterion collection, you know? Yeah. I can't rent the cinema market, the Huntington Mall if it doesn't get a theatrical release, you know? Do you think with Netflix special? With the release date being in December, do you think that there was a time where they thought about man versus baby Jesus?

So here's the thing. There's nothing out about this movie. You can't find fucking anything. There's two pictures from the set. They know what they know what you want it. They know what us dirty dogs are going to fucking do with that information. We'll take it and run with it. They saw it.

Can I just say actually, I don't think there is anyone that would make good use of a lot of information about man versus baby. I agree with you there that it is probably a smart play that like no one who wants a lot of that information about it is going to make good use of that. No, for sure. Only ill intent. just us just us mostly there's two photos one he's walking down the street hole in the baby one he's sitting on a couch and he's got his arms crossed it and he's feeding two babies so uh how many babies is it man versus baby because if it's more than one of the babies is on his side okay oh he's teamed up whoever wins we're cute one love it one man and a baby versus a different meaner baby this fall

winter december baby boss baby he's oh man man versus boss baby we're watching it. There's no trailers out. There is a surplus of artificially inseminated trailers that have been created by robots and put on YouTube to trick everyone. This is what booies my spirits in the wake of this tide of robots taking all of our jobs for real, though, this time, is that all the comments in all of these AI trailers are like, this is not my Trevor Bingley. This is A.I. Slop. Trevor Bingley would fucking never. Never.

Never. He doesn't have that Trevor Bingley's Joad of Eve. You made his eyes all big and nightmarish. That's not my pleasant Trevor Bingley. Well-intentioned house sitter. Does he have baby? So he probably babysits in this one. I want to see if we can reverse engineer.

Okay. Man versus Baby. I saw one trailer that I think had some real information that said he was a school teacher this time. around how the f i saw man versus b i don't want that no anyone who saw that that's also not baby relate like babies don't go to school um well he's it's a school for just calm down the school board must have ruled man or baby inadmissible it's a school for babies um a daycare yeah he works at a daycare and there's a nativity play and no one comes to pick up the baby jesus so so it is man versus baby jesus yes and he takes him to house at a different house

house. I'm saying this out loud. This sounds also fake. There's no way. There's no way the series is he's a daycare teacher and he takes home a baby. No one picked up while he's house sitting a fancy house in London. It's also, it's been six years since I had a baby. Yeah. Right. In the house. I didn't have the baby. I didn't have the baby. I mean, since I had a baby present in the home. Right. I don't think parents take the baby to nativity practice and just say, I'll be back in two hours. Yeah, yeah. Keep a good eye on this baby. Why else am I letting them use the baby then?

If I'm not getting some free babysitting out of it, why are they, why am I used to type? Well, you can still watch your phone while you sit in the pew. Yeah, because the answer to that, Justin, is on your drive back to the house to get in, you know, a good hour and 15 minutes of shit and gaming and all that stuff. You could die in a car accident on the way back, and then Mr. Bean's going to have your baby in a stranger's house for the holidays. Merry Christmas. It's man versus baby.

And you know it's not baby-proofed? You know the house isn't baby-proof. He certainly isn't. Can't handle a... Can't handle a bee? Do you have any idea how much more shit a human child is going to rain down on you than a little tiny boops.

Literally. I think... He don't got diapers in that house? No way. I think the next... when they do should be man versus it's a wonderful life

and Clarence visits him and he's like it should be better if I was never born I keep versing everybody I'm so tired from versing everyone all the time

once worded out that I was the man to verse people are calling me out on the street and then like Claren shows up and he takes them to this hellscape that's just covered in bees it's just a planet of bees. Yeah, he's the one

I'd want, though. Like a B movie. Like a B movie Trabb, I guess. I didn't watch the explainer so I might miss some of the concepts. Bees sue humanity. Yeah. Hey, did you guys catch the trailer for Man v. Kramer versus Kramer versus Kramer? It looks like it's gonna be. It looks like versus Man versus Kramer versus Predator.

It's a fucking really, really good idea for a movie. Man versus Kramer versus Wild Predator. Yes. Bear Grills. Yes. is on our side. But he's a baby. He's a baby.

He's a baby bear. Baby bear grills. Baby bear grills. Cub grills. Yeah. Cup grills is a baby. He's got dropped off at Wilderness Camp

and never picked up. And so Trevor Bingley, Rowan Atkinson, has to take care of him. But the homie's taking care of him in, it's a married couple who are going through a hard time. Kramer's Kramer's Kramer.

Okay. Kramer and then we'll get bees in there, too. Of course. And we'll save bees for the last episode. episode like you at end of episode three he finally got the baby to sleep and he's like oh finally time to relax what's that he hears ding dong checks the nest cam nothing there it's Santa it's no dang it's like oh nothing's there all right back to my nap and he puts his phone down and the camera zooms in on the phone where you don't didn't see anything before and a single bee climbs over the camera lane and everyone at home is like oh shit he's your Hear the bee! And the bee's back. And then, Predator shows up hunting the bee.

Yes. Yes. And then Santa, go ahead. Just get Santa in there. And then Santa. I mean, it's like, if you guys put Santa in it, that's the thumbnail. You know what I mean? Like, then every Christmas.

Yeah. And the fun thing is, if we have Cub Girls the Baby, Trevor Bingley, Predator, B, Santa, Kramer, and Kramer. Yeah. We can pick one. We can match up, mix and match who's teaming up versus who in there. Yeah. Because I'd love to see Santa and Predator team up against the B. Yeah.

That's where my fan fiction's at. Of the Kramer's, I think I'd go with Meryl Streep in our picture over Dusty Hoff. Yeah, and Michael Richie. Yeah. So we'll get. Mikey Ritchie. Meryl got out of that one good. So we'll get her and the B and the Predator.

And there at the end? Freddy. Freddy can get up in it too. Freddie, yes. Yes. Yeah, Freddy's all right. But actually, and Travis, did you hear it? You sealed the joke.

I heard it like there can't be anything else on top. Did you hear it? It was like, listen, listen, listen real close. The perfect kind of like salt bay you did on there. And then it was like everybody take a step back from it. That's really good shit. It's so rare that we recognize. that in the moment. You know what I mean? Normally we have to see it in the rear view. You know what

me? It's just nice to know that I was there to do the seal or as one might say, killing blow. No, it's still a living document. This show is a living. It's in the library of Congress. Hey, in the bathroom. I keep leaving USB drives of our show in the library of Congress bathrooms. Yeah, sealed in a zip-lock baggie in the tank. Yep. I have been seeing the psychiatrist. mattress for a while. Oh, for my anxiety disorder. Sorry, I should have finished the whole. Either way, congratulations.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. I know how that's important? Yeah. It's been pretty helpful. She's also really cool and recently suggested that I watch horror movies. Going so far as to recommend me a few of her favorites. I've now watched 30-odd movies and the issue is, I don't really like the

one she's told me to watch. 30? That's a lot of fucking movies, dude. Man, if somebody recommends me something, they got about 10 minutes. If they whiffed it, they've whipped it for good, man. I found them super boring with okay scares, but a baffling plot.

Is there a way I can let her know about this without turning her against me or do you have to lie to my psychiatrist? My next appointment is on Halloween. Please help. That's from Madden by mediocre movies. I personally would caution you against lying

because I think your psychiatrist needs to know exactly how twisted you are yes you know what I mean your psychiatrist if they're gonna get up there in the in the in the dark cobwebs and like dig around in the annals of your brain yeah they gotta know that like aren't the clowns up there yeah I mean like all the bad guy there's like there's both Freddy's there's four people there's four people on this earth that I want to know what scares me and my psych my therapist would be would be one of them because it would be helpful in some of our work.

I would also say the person most likely to know you are lying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now. Because they've studied your psyche. Yeah. They know you inside and out.

It is an impressive feat to recommend someone 30 movies that they don't like. 30, you're going to get one just out of dumb luck. One or two is going to hit. 30 so many. So many movies to watch you don't. like and it's like if someone recommends me two movies i don't like i've stopped taking recommendations from that person i don't think i've watched 30 movies this year yeah no no way i would also find it concerning if my therapist who ostensibly has studied my psyche attempting to understand my brain

then when i know 30 movies you'll love distressing for sure absolutely maybe the thing is this the your psychiatrist is actually like kind of out of their depth because like once they see the once they kind of see the kind of sick and twisting shit that you get off on, maybe they would be messed up too. You know what I mean? Like you've been watching all this crazy, scary stuff.

Yeah. The psychiatrist can't help you because you watch, didn't you listen? Yeah. Don't watch that stuff that's evil. It's evil bad stuff too. I'm trying to walk you back. Trying to fix you.

Yeah, I know. Watch these boring movies. You sick, fuck. I'm trying to. Detox, you're twisting mind. I'm trying to resensitize you, free. I do think, well, it insatiate

your blood lust, no kidding. Yeah. That was just a bunch of faces and death movies. You're getting VHS is mailed to you in unmarked packages, man. That's direct feat of executions for prisons. You're a terrible person.

I think it's wild to me. Maybe I just have a different Play for of anxiety. Yeah. But the idea that my therapist would be like, hey, I know you're in here for worrying too much and getting too much tension and being too freaked out by things. Anyway, here's 30 scary movies you should watch.

I mean, that makes sense. Those are expurgation of pity and fear. It's one of the great uses of drama. I get that, but it's just, you got to get your rocks off, though, if it's going to work. You know, you got to get your drills in. They probably didn't include this, but I assume the therapist told them to, like, listen to yakutty sacks while they were watching. Oh, yeah, that's good.

There's like this whole theory, you know, an acceptance to commitment therapy where it's just like take it and twist it and turn it. If you have something fucked up in your brain, like turn it up, turn it around and look at it a different way. And so playing like yakety sacks over, I don't know, some trauma flick, it changes it.

It takes the teeth off of it. It makes you brave. Guys have got it. They don't specify the engagement. anxiety disorder, but if it's related to social anxiety, this is a test. Oh, fuck. Oh, dang. Yeah, they gave you movies they knew you wouldn't like.

Why do all the great... To see if you can say it wasn't good to their face. Why do all the great therapists have to use so many tricks? Yeah. You know what I mean? All the great therapists are so focused on different tricks and puzzles and ways they could catch you up and trap you. Well, if you watch King's speech when fucking Jeffrey Rush is bullying the king to get him

just stopped stuttering or whatever? I didn't watch it, but I've seen the clip. And he's like, yelling and he's like, poking him in the eye or something. Yeah, fucking Goodwill. Fuck, man, stop poking me in the eye. And he's like, mm, didn't stutter, did you? Go well hunting when he's like, it's not your fault kid. And then he starts to cry.

And when he gets close, Robin Williams farts on his hand and puts it close to his face. Yeah, man. Classic. What are we teaching here? Math? I think that's what they're teaching in Go well hunting. They do teach a lot of math at Goodwill Hunting. Every time you go back and watch that movie, you forget about all the math.

in it, huh? No, really, you do learn something new. They Trojan Wars are doing they're good. Yeah, man. How many apples do I have? Do you like these apples or these apples? You need to walk in confidently and say, I've solved your puzzle. I fucking hated those shitty movies.

And you are a bad person for recommending all of them to, because Travis is right. They want to make sure you can stand up. I don't think Travis is right. You have to stand up for yourself. Huh. 30 bad movie recommendations. If you frame it as I've solved your test, you gave me these movies because you knew I wouldn't like them and see if I have the confidence to tell you. You've also now given them the out to say, yeah, that's exactly what it was.

That's it. That's it. What if the therapist is like, okay, I'm hearing your feedback, Jeremy, but please, how many did you watch? Just tell me, how many? Not 30. Oh, God, damn it. Have you not been listening to anything you watched 30 movies? What are we doing in here, Jeremy? I recommend it those a week ago.

You told me your people-pleasing was under control. You watched 30 bad movies. You swore to me. You said it was getting better. 30? You watched one of them twice? What did I see if you missed something? What on was that Wobles movie with Cario was in it?

What's wrong with you? This is 30, this is just 30 Burger King commercials I looped together to make an 80-minute movie. Of course it's boring God Justin we got to talk to How did you find a director's cut Of the Burger King Loop movie Justin we got to talk about this crazy

fucking lumpy ass gourd You got going on behind you That is a biblically accurate gourd It's an octopus monster that got all dried up by science Let me go into the field of view Bring him in Beauty blog that nasty fucking gourd dude Cooper grabbed

Got this cat for me at Floyd's. That's crazy, man. I thought it was some ears of corn you had glued together in a weird... No, man. That's a single vegetable or fruit. It's this. I don't know if this...

Either these sometimes look like a banana sometimes. Or this is one of the most important and powerful gourds ever on the internet. It's an agricultural. I don't know. This is either a huge viral thing that everybody's wild about. and you're seeing this everywhere on your FYP or this is a nothing burger

and I still appreciate it because my daughter thought of me when she got this for me my daughter's never got me a gourd my whole life listeners at home it looks kind of like

a small pumpkin that a big fat scorpion climbed on top of and then like kind of gushed all over it kind of looks like a banana like a banana that someone

fucked into a tiny pumpkin and then they got banana lumps everywhere yeah I don't know get it close to the camera. I know that you're not used to this wide angle, but get it up on, get,

I'm so glad we're a video forward podcast now. I don't know how long it'll last. I don't, I was thinking about if, should I lacquer it? Yeah, lacquer it, right? Lack of that, lack of that that gourd. That'd be cool. This is, that's, I'm, I'm not going to get up from my chair, so that's the best I can do. Yeah, you're just

holding that gourd for the rest of the recording. Nope. Recording. Bazinga. All right, you guys want another question? please yes all right good allow me my wife came home yesterday and said that her work slack channel posted a reminder to all the staff to bring back any forks they may have accidentally taken home with them she said she thought it was weird that anyone would take all the forks with them i had to tell her that she was in fact the fork thief and that i had been noticing them show up at our lunch bags that she was bringing home with her i've been washing them putting them away with the rest of our dishes not thinking much about it brothers we've collected over a dozen forks now And we're not sure how to get them back into the office without anyone noticing. How do we return them?

That's for Fork Thief asking for forgiveness in Frederick. I feel like I can walk through the mind of this individual and look at the series of small hidden choices they were making to themselves of whether or not to confront their loved one about this fork stealing behavior. And saying no, I will accommodate it and I will in fact be complicit in it. Yeah? You're fencing it. He was fencing the forks. You're laundering him. You are laundering the forks.

Absolutely, you are. I mean, literally. Literally. You're putting them in a machine and then they come out yours? I don't think so. I'm, I guess I'm learning people, most people are a lot less particular about their silverware than I am. Because if I put one of a fork in my mouth that isn't one of my normal shoulders, I'm going to absolutely not be having a good time. I'm pretty particular about those.

I like a number of times. I like some tight time spacing. I like a good hand feel. If somebody's bringing in some Scrowdy Raoul fork from Nowaresburg, Charm got three for a dollar at the Dollar General. No, thank you. No, thank you. Take that back to work, Vicki.

That's true for me aesthetically, Justin. What? You've been putting these away in the drawer with your other forks. When you open that drawer and you look into the fork slot and you see these weird don't fit the shape, don't stack right? Tell me the slots that you do. guys have what are the slots in your several little fork big spoon

little spoon butter knife Travis that's fucking amazing random that's good and then random slot with like some reusable straws and some chopsticks and etc I think you can measure how much you've given up by how you sort the silverware drawer and at the

bottom of the list is probably just like big old bucket throw it all in but I'm I think I'm probably close to the bottom of the because we do butter knife, but some steak action will slide in there from time to time. Oh, no, Griffin. Big spoon, little spoon in the same drawer, big fork, little fork in the same drawer,

and then run for straws, chopsticks, et cetera. Okay, first of all, piece by piece here, Griffin. You put the steak nights in with the butter knives? Oh, Justice's camera got too hot from the thing you said. What does it happen now? It's fucking insane. It's fucking crazy. It's not that wild.

It's a camera. And it gets hot because it's been on for a while And then it turns off Every time you act like It's like Cletus the slackjawed yokel It's just a warm camera, Griffin You gotta calm down by Could you at least turn your camera feet on

So I'm not looking at color boys? No Not without standing up, I can't Griffin, you put the steak 1910 with the butter knife What happens when you reach in to get a butter knife And some spicy action happens How much fucking First of all they all go in

Kind of like blade first handle Ass up ass up blade down That's the way we stack our silverware I'm not gonna fucking Toss them in there like that So you reach in to grab a butter knife You come away with a steak knife

And then you have to put that down And pick up a butter knife Now you've had two trips Two trips I mean all my steak knives have You know this fine elk bone If I don't get the thing I want Right out of the drawer

I'm so bothered I can yeah but I know what the difference is I can tell by just the touch of it of what is a butter knife and what is a steak knife. I don't need to have things that for you. Why are you touching the knife? Like, think about it, though. That's dangerous. To get it and use it.

What are you talking about? It's dangerous. What if you poach your finger? How small is your sword? You guys genuinely do sound a little bit like my mother-in-law right now, who does, every time I'm in the kitchen, usually during Thanksgiving, cutting something saying, oh, careful, that's knife looks. And it is true that the first time that they came over Thanksgiving, I cut my fingers, so badly. I cut it so, so badly. And so I haven't established a great track record.

But I'm good with knives, generally speaking. I'm not going to cut myself reaching into the butter knife. When you mix your spoons, let's get to spoons, Griffin. The bold, depth, and sign I feel the same way. I feel the same way. But I look at it. Here's what I do. I look down in the drawer and I look at the spoons. I say, there's a small one. I would like that for cereal. But they don't stack correctly. But they don't stack correctly. But it does beg the question, Griffin, if you are already doing this, if you're looking at spins and deciding which speed you won't,

why don't you just pile the spins and the forks together then? Well, because... Damn, you're right. I'm no better... You're not, you're an animal. We live in a society. That's fine, girl.

You got to claw back out, all right? I got you. Maybe today try separating them and just take a moment to appreciate the step you've taken. Is it okay to put chopsticks and straws together? Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, I put a big bag

a chopstick straws popsicle molds trash you know yeah yeah it also helps Griffin if the chopsticks can fit

into one of the straw so you can just heat it like a blow dart into some foam yeah that's actually really important the government should pay for you

to move back into your own house every year because I bet I would do so much of a better job this time like knowing where shit

should go because you've lived there because I've lived there for like a long time you get mad at yourself all the time Like, why did you do this? Moving sucks, and it's so expensive.

But if the government paid for me to do it once, now that I'm good at it, I'd kick ass. And the government loves paying for stuff right now. They're paying for everything. Travis, you have to get political, and it's like... Yeah. Like, I know they're not going to do it is obviously a fancy dreamland. Like, we say a lot of bullshit on this show. Like, Rowan Atkinson is starring in a four-part miniseries sequel to Man v. B called Man v. Baby.

like we make shit up on this show like all the time and we play with it we play with you yeah everything i've ever said on this show is 100% true perfect that's great good news just to balance it out let's take a break you know how normally sundays are for humans yeah not nondon anymore. Now they've come out with a brand new product, Sundays for dogs. This is a good name.

Wait, no, I'm looking here, and I'm looking at the bag of food they sent me. It's dog food. It's not a day of the week. It's dog food. Sundays for dogs is still a kick-ass, like really strong name. I would be honored to have that on the face of a product that I created.

I did break down weekends for my kids that Saturdays or Datter Days, which is like, could mean, I have things they need to take care of like organizing the garage or whatever or it could be like, hey, you're going to hang on with dad today and then Sundays or fun days where we usually go somewhere to

like a museum or Fridays for the freaks. Where either they'll have fun or they'll stay quiet while you have fun. Exactly. It mixes it matches. It's a beautiful system. Gotta move that now though because Sundays for dogs. Yes, Sundays for dogs. You know, normally you can either have fresh or healthy with Sunday.

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slash my brother to get 50% off your first order. Or you can use code my brother at checkout that's 50% off your first order at Sundays for dogs. dot com slash my brother sundays for dogs.com slash my brother or use code my brother at checkout woof-wolf big dog approved griffin andrew mackerel all right my name is peter riddles i'm an agent to the stars i know you fall on hard times and i got good news for you what which hard times i know you've fallen on hard times Griffin which kind of hard times i've fallen on a few different types of hard times struggling to pick up work lately uh has been brothers can't carry his coattails anymore. It's been, it's sad, Travis.

He's reduced. He actually wrote a book, if you can believe it. It's getting pretty sad. A book? He had to write a book. He had to write a book. But listen, I'm going to turn things around for you, baby, because I have, uh, I've been learning the web and, uh, I'm going to be charging you an absolute premium to make a

website for you because I've taken the time to make myself into an expert, Griffin. Yeah. So for a very reasonable fee. Sorry, what was your name again, Agent Mew? Eat a Squarespace. This is my name. Oh, are you sure? Are you sure that's the name you said at the start?

Said Peter Reynolds. Remnolds? With an M? Which one, Pete, which one is it? No, Reynolds. No, obviously not reminals. Certainly not Reynolds. Yeah.

So what did you need me to, what did you need me to do, Pete? I'm making your website, baby. And you got to pay me a bunch of money because I'm a, I've got a big team of experts and they can let you do whatever you want with a website, Griffin. You're going to have to pay me a huge premium because our websites that we build, they can do anything. You can sell stuff with these. You can post your photos. Can I talk to you over here real quick?

Yeah, you keep going, Pete. You're going to miss out on the deal. Okay. What's up here? Hey, Griffin, I think that this Remnolds guy is maybe trying to take you to the cleaners because you can do all that with Squarespace. You don't need, you don't need Remnant. He did say his name was Peter Squarespace. We got, wait, wait, wait, I don't want to interrupt, but we got.

We got world-class designers. Hold on. That was crazy. I got a call from another client. Sorry, I got another guy coming in. Hold on. Really? That's your ringtone for sweet.

No, Griffin's dragging his feet. I don't know. Maybe I'll have room for you because Griffin's dragging his feet. I know for sure that's Sidney. Do what? Just because the ringtone is on the wings of love? That's got to be my wife. You're ridiculous.

You're married to Sydney too? Uh-oh. It's a sequel. And Justin Macquarie are both here in Sydney. To the sequel to Sydney. Yeah. So, listen, I have world-class designers that have made templates for me only

and I can let you use them for an exorbitant fee. Okay. Go ahead with what you were saying. Sorry. First of all, the book that I'm writing is the Stoweway. I've written it. It's coming out next year. You can pre-order it at bit.ly slash griffin's stow away. Really excited for that.

A choose your own adventure experience. It's a choose-during adventure experience. This is why you're never going anywhere. Yeah, Penguin Random House made the website for that one. did not have the opportunity to whip one up, but if I did Mr. Remmelts, I would use Squarespace and not whatever bogus bullshit

you're trying to sling my fucking way, dude. I've got you dead to rights in my sights, and I know that it's not right what you're doing. So don't fall for Peter Remnald's predatory practices. Instead, head to Squarespace.com slash my brother for a free trial, and when you're ready to launch, use offer code,

my brother to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. I never know if Justin's waiting for one of us to talk, so you could interrupt it with a bit. Yeah, I know. And so, like, sometimes I just like to do a gentle... All right. Yes. La-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l. I want a much.

Squad. But I want you, Munch Squad. Welcome to Munch Squad. It's a podcast to the podcast profile and the latest grace and brand eating. And finally, someone's doing something about elf. About Elf? Scooter's coffee. This is a first press release.

That's not a real place. This is the first press release I've ever had that is also an adventure. Cool. So I want you guys to experience it. Is there anything we should know? be ready for the adventure? Just imagine it in your mind's eye, I guess. To experience the adventure.

Press your own adventure. At Scooters Coffee, smiling is our favorite. Scooters Coffee is partnered with those wizards over at Warner Brothers Discovery Global Consumer Products. They doesn't say that.

It doesn't say that sentence. What? The Wizards. No, I added Wizards, but it does say, has partnered with Warner Brothers Discovery Global Consumer Products. A Globo Chem Corp.

Fuck man Happy holidays from Global Kim To bring out smiles and holiday cheer To coffee drive-thrues far and near The holiday menu at Scooter's coffee Is filled with magic and sweet surprises Inspired by New Line Cinema's film Elf

Which is at least 15 years old Which is at least 600,000 years old Throughout the holiday season You've got drinks and food items that feature Maple, peppermint and cherry flavors that's inspired by the holiday classic film each drink comes with served in a cup featuring guys designs inspired by buddy the elf and jovie's north pole looks and there's a stick there's a sticker featuring a friendly face for the north pole can you give me the original take on that that's a seeker

it's a sticker it's a sticker with a friendly face from the north pole now they don't go so far as to say it Santa, but I'll be fucked if it's not Santa. It's trademark. It's a sticker, but they can't say a Santa sticker. Collect them all. Collect all the wheelfews. Get out there to be their sequels. Collect a wheelfills. Many stores will also feature holiday lighting

and decor inspired by Buddy Journey to New York City to save his find his father. Yeah. Save his father would be better. First of all, Cherry? Second. I love that they put in the press release. Check this, folks. We're doing

something new and different this holiday season. Our store holiday decorations. Trees and shit, garland. We're going to have lights. I really like the version of this journey where the sea serpent that greets Buddy is played by

in the TV animated special. I don't know if you guys know this, but the sea serpent that says goodbye to Buddy is voiced by one Matt Lauer, a real black mark on an otherwise pristine production. Delightful film, yeah. A monster, playing a monster. Fantastic. Hey, the Candy Cane Forest.

Moka, hotter ice blended, features our world-class espresso, combined with decadent mocha and peppermint flavors, a mocha drizzle, and top with whipped cream, more mocha drizzle, and peppermint chips. Wait, that's too much mocha drizzle. That's a lot of mocha drizzle. That's a mocha storm. I didn't even like strata. Two strata. Two stratae of mocha drizzle. No matter which peppermint option you choose, we're bringing the candy cane for us to you. Now, we're going to go through the sea of swirly, twirly, twirly, gumdrops and have a swirly, twirly sugar cookie latte. That's hot, iced, or blended.

Well, now, hold on. Yeah. A sugar cookie is not a gumdrop. Yeah, dude. They're too wild a different, sweet, like, universes. Everybody hates gum drops, and they're all busted down flavors. They're so bad. If you want to build with them in toothpakes.

That is good. That's the only reason they keep making them. That's the reason. Only Michaels sells gum drops because they're only for crafts. Have we talked about it feels like this sounds like, this sounds like the kind of thing we've definitely talked about before. But is there a gingerbread house eating contest that happens after the gingerbread house like creation contest? Because I would love to see someone try to pound down more than like a half dozen gum drops.

You know what happens to the gingerbread houses that Disney world makes, right? What? They become houses for bees! I guess, yeah, man What they do is they take them out and they become houses for bees. Okay, you can't just say they become houses for bees.

That is nature replaying. I don't know how much clearer he can say it. Here's what I'm saying. They chuck them out there. Where? Alliators, where the alliators and mosquitoes are. They chuck them out there. Yeah.

And then they bring a bunch of bees and they say, fucking go for it. We got a new queen here and she loves this gingerbread house and this is her gingerbread castle. Yeah. Maybe we'll name her Anna and glue a little wig to her. or whatever, but here's the point is you guys live in this fucking house now. Eat it up.

That's, that's, that's, that sucks for them, man. That's a bad. Are you kidding? It sounds pretty fucking good. That sounds pretty fucking good, except it's like, oh, guys, it's wintertime and our house is going to happen. We eat it all because it's sweet candy and cookies confection. It's wintertime in Florida and California, Griffin. Don't get on your high horse. Yeah, it's what,

60? 60 in the afternoon? Come on. Also, I want to say, here's my pitch for a gingerbread house eating competition. It's not how much or how fast. It is, in fact, how long do you think you can wait and then still be able to consume dryest. Yeah. So it's like, I'm going to wait.

But if you wait too long, and then you go to eat it and you're like, actually, this is no longer consumable, you're disqualified. I have to imagine that there is, they make space for like the big gulp full of water that they just dunk, dunk them all in, get it soft and gullible like they do in the hot dog one. It would be different categories. Yeah. Right? there would be with liquid without.

With toothpicks without. Yeah. Toothicks is, get them down. Chomp them down. It's faster to eat the toothpicks, definitely. Yeah, it is. You got to get, it's a few extra chews. Yep.

There's a, okay, so now, and finally we've got treats inspired by Buddy the Elf. You did it. Congratulations. You made the whole journey through the press release. Now they're Elflavored. Celebrate your holiday season victories with maple infused options that don't skimped on the syrup. The Buddy, the Elf Maple, caramel-licious, hot, ice, or blended, features our signature drink. I'm assuming they mean coffee.

Yeah. But we put an elf-inspired new spin on the classic. Creamy Carol meets maple and rich espresso before being on top of weird cream. Creamy caramel meets maple. Creamy Carol is the woman who puts the whipped cream on all of the drinks. Yeah, yeah. That's true. She hates it when you call her that.

Where's the cream on my thing? Creamy Carol is out of death in the family. Creamy Carol is. And none of us are trained on it. Ruby Carol's on sabbatical, it's rough, man. I do not know what to say to her. Perfect for making snow angels. The buddy, the elf, maple chai, gives your favorite spice chai an elf upgrade with warm notes of golden maple syrup.

How is it perfect for making snow angels? You dump it on the ground. Dump it on the ground in the shape of the angel. It's perfect for making snow angels because you need a, after you've gotten down there with Jovi and made the beautiful snow angels, then you need a warm up. Yeah. Before you go find your dad, James Kahn. I love you, Dad. on the naughty list.

Yeah, he is. Don't have as much of a sweet tooth as Buddy the Elf. Try our son of a nutcracker brewed coffee, a special limited brewed coffee featuring notes of dark chocolate, roasted nuts, and warm brown sugary bread. It's all based on a movie that's older than your kid's kindergarten teacher. Believe it

or not. Amazing. Can't believe it. Great flick. Great flick. This is one of the more comprehensive brand partnerships. Dude, we're not even done. Welcome to the, we're filled with holiday cheer. There's plenty more to cheer about with our cheery, cheer sparkling float tart cherry and vanilla flavors mixed with sparkling soda and creamy snowy vanilla

float topping and whipped cream for a carbonated cup of cheery cheer this one's trying to fuck with me I'm not great of a reader but this one is trying to make problems for me intentionally yeah how big is their menu that they can slot in two dozen oh ball fight cake bite with a delicious bite of vanilla cake goodness with creamy blue fillings surrounded by white chocolate And top with, they're now getting into like deep cut elf references that only the real elf heads. Yeah. Only the real elfies remember this. Yeah.

There's exclusive co-branded X, sorry, elf scooters coffee merchandise. That's how I'm saying. No, sorry, we're pronouncing those, right? Yeah. That is, yeah. Okay. There's co-branded Elf Scooter coffee merchandise makes for a sweet holiday gift available in stores and online our son of a nutcracker Tumblr. a stainless steel 32-ounce

insulated tumbler finally folks a cup with elf on it yeah I think I think we finally did it guys a coffee mug with elf you've they've like tripled the size of their core menu

additional merchandise is available at scooters coffee dot com including a set of a nutcracker blanket featuring the same design of the town did they just get rights to the one saying the one quote yeah what did you guys have leftover that we

could just troll for so that is an exciting partnership I'm excited to get over to scooters never been to one can't imagine I'll go now too much else stuff too much you would have to say the name of these things out loud to order that we got to yeah I can't do it won't do it

I'll do it like I do it at like a restaurant where I don't know how to pronounce some of the menu items or I'll be like I will have the stew and they'll know what I mean And when I say, like, I would like, can I have this one, please? May I have the cherry beverage? And you know.

And how many does that cost? You want me to say, son of a nutcrack? You have a knife in your hand. You're saying, say, son of a nutcracker. Out loud, okay. Oh, your scooter? You said say son of a nutcracker or I can't finish? You said that to me, a customer at your coffee shop?

God, this place is a drive-thru. I wouldn't want to stay here for very long. No, thanks. on the first day of class our TA told us not to raise our hands but simply to speak up when we had something to share

for context I'm in grad school and there are about 20 people in the class I respect the TA and want to follow that request but I keep forgetting and raising my hand anyway

to say this bothers her would be an understatement she is clearly annoyed and has even begun to threaten docking grades I've started to realize what I'm doing partway through raising my hand

and trying to pass it off my hand through my hair or stretching awesome I could only do this so many times before it looks suspicious the other day I tried to pass off raising my hand is pretending to shoot basketball and it didn't go over well.

Brothers, what are some other convincing ways that can pretend I am not raising my hand? That's from teacher's pest in Tennessee. Stretch. No, they already said stretching. I mean, they did cover that. Now say pretend to shoot basketball. Pretend to shoot a basketball. Big one in a hoop.

Oh, there he did it. Pretend like you're raising an antenna to get better reception on your invisible ham radio. Yeah, that's good. Pretend to grab a bug? Oh, that's a good one. Oh, that's a good one if you just like snap it out of the air and then, oh. Maybe body odor, body odor check. Write a fun phrase on the palm of your hand.

Yeah. Don't think of cheating. Don't think you're cheating. No, no, no. So then when you raise your hand, they see, and it just says like, hi, T.A. They'll kill you. Oh, wait, no. Trey's a good idea.

Waving. Hi. I'm not, don't call on me. I know. I have shit. And give them a thumbs up. up let them know they're doing a good job just glad to see you teach air high five it sucks that you only get to wave when you say hi or bye to someone you should be able to mid conversation be like

i wave all the time what are you talking about i'm fucking stoked all over again to be talking to you man here's a big one for you dude i'm not very good at waving too so i do it all the time to try I practice. Yeah. Sometimes when I wave, it makes it seem like my wrist is disconnected from my hand. And it's just kind of all over the place. Yeah, it's, you need to, you need to, it needs to be more of a lever action. I can't.

I'm trying to do kind of more of a princess dying. No, man. Parade wave. It would be, you know, it would be nice if we use the wave as a symbol to like start the conversation over. Like, I'm not, like, I've accidentally lied a couple times and I don't want to have this anymore. And you're going to talk to me about something. I don't care about, and I just want to start over, please.

Yeah, watch that hand, man. You would have to limit the amount of times you could do that, right? Like, you could do that, like, once a conversation. Do you guys think John Sina the first time he did the You Can't See Me thing? He was just waving at himself because he was like, or he smelled something. He wanted to, that's possible too. Or he would want to just smell something. He was trying to walk.

That was it. It was Sina v. Rock, and the Rock was like, do you smell what the Rock is going to get? And John Seam was like, I don't know, man. I'm trying. That looks cool. That looks really cool. That's another thing you could do.

You could do the John Cena wave. You start to wave your hand. And then you just will wave right in front of your face. That's cool. Yeah, you raise one hand. You raise the other hand? Bring it down on crotch chops. Oh, yeah.

They're really brutalizing our microphones during this question. It's, I've been seeing interviews John Cena lately pop up on TikTok, and he's talking about a lot of, like, debonair stuff, like his preferences of coffee. I watch that as well, Justin, very nice. It's very debonair. It gave me this strange emotion. I don't think I've ever had before, which is the feeling that I am glad John Sina is as big as he is, so he is not bullied. Because I think if John Sina was not John Sina's size, he would get bullied a lot. Like, I felt weirdly defensive for a John Sina that didn't exist. That didn't have his huge muscles. You know what I mean? But I'm glad he is as, he is as, he is as, John Sina is as big as he needs to be. And I don't think I understood this because I was not a wrestling person. Yeah. And, but he is, I will say,

it seems like widely bullied in that, even in that world for a strong man, it seems like even people who like wrestling bullied John Cena more than they would feel comfortable bullying a man of his size. Well, he left wrestling to go to Hollywood, Justin, where being debonair is appreciated. Now he comes back and he's like, y'all bullied me when I was just a big, strong wrestler,

but look at me now. I'd like to get a gut check from Griffin on this angle of John Cena being highly bullied, because I feel that in my bones. I want to know if it's a right feeling. I need 10 seconds.

Can I also just say, Justin, he wasn't always that big. Like, as much as I want a picture, a 10-year-old John Cena who's absolutely jacked, and it's just the same but scaled down to 10, there must have been a time

where he did get bullied and he thought I'm gonna become an absolutely jacked mountain of a man Yes, but what I'm saying is like I think his huge His hugeness is directly proportionate to how big of a dork he was

Like a lot of people would have that realization And they'd do like 20 push-ups And be like, okay, I'm all right I feel kind of John Cena's like I'm a I think I need to get just really huge To be able to carry off That's what I did

Yeah, oh yeah, Travis McElroy system, he called it. Yeah, where I got real big. In 2000, in 2002, John Sina debuted the alias that he had at the time, which was a freestyle rapping wrestler named the Doctor of Thuganomics. I'm going to hyperventilate. Okay, so. This is real? Canon. 100% fully fully super i know guys i get it that that sounds like some shit i would say that would be made up on this show where we say made up shit all the time like man versus baby but that's very real i have to imagine no wait man versus baby is real too i want to be clear

damn it okay go ahead thank you i have to imagine that where he is that where he is because i didn't even google it's very real i have to imagine where john sina is now the frame the frame he occupies now was largely he was pressed firmly into that mold like a plate like the plato dentist like a plato dentist yeah because of a slingshot effect

that he took a round doctor of thuganomics to come back he went whoa and everyone's like this sucks and he was like and he launched back forward into the huge guy mold and now he's like he is where he is now and that's like a who

Who does that? Who can make that fucking transition? Nobody. Now, my question is, did the doctor of Thuganomics have a PhD or a medical degree? Yes. Because even in there, what it implies is that the character went, yes, I could just be a layman of Thuganomics,

but I will attend more schooling. Yeah. Debuting the Doctor of Thugonomics character in 2002, scene and began performing freestyle raps and promos and wore jerseys and hats as part of his gimmick along with the slogan word life so he had to he had to they had to crush him at the bottom of the fucking pit batman broke his back so he could climb back up now he's the fucking fear you know what i mean i love that i love that for him because this for you john cool journey would love to get you my brother my brother me or macroy family clubhouse standing offer john or just a cool hang

If you're afraid of the attention, and I'm not gonna bully you. If you're afraid of all the attention you would get from guessing on our show, I understand that can be off-putting. We can just chill out and play Fortnite together. That's fine. You can be you in Fort-N-You-you-in-Fort-

I can be you, John, in Fortnite. He probably doesn't play as John Cena, right? No, but I bet it would make him more comfortable if you did. He'd do pickle Rick. John Cena loves that. John Cita is still talking about pickle Rick, guys. John, hi, the invite was real.

Griffin doesn't mean this. No, please. I do fully mean it. I do fully mean it. He's on his farewell tour season still in WWE. And every once in a while, I'll be like, I'm about to take you down like Pickle Rick. And they're like, dude, you can't fucking. So you're saying Griffin, there's two things.

There's two things John Cena loves that we know about. The perfect flat white, which he discusses at length in the video, Justin and I watch. And Pigle Rick. Yeah, dude. So when John Cena goes into a coffee shop, he orders a flat white to see if they know what they're doing, and then ask the barista also, what are your feelings on Pickle Rick? Yeah, and you know, it's like, he, he's, he hasn't seen it. He said, and he said in an interview, he's not, he said, I'm not allowed to watch Rick and Morty, but I, but I see a lot of, like, really funny stuff about this guy. I'm busy studying Thegonomics. I haven't watched it I asked AI to generate a virgin

me based on what I knew about it So I saw the t-shirt at Hot Topic And I would want it I do like So focused on the iconography Yeah He is a subscriber to the American Journal of Thuganomics

Because you can't just like Learn that shit in 2002 And then goes to the Conferences Constantly changing He reads for the articles Hey thank you so much For listening to my brother

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Also, if this goes out at noon on Monday, which it normally does, that means that Champions Grove 2026 tickets are on, sale right now. So Champions Grove, real quick. The whole page is there's a castle in Hawking Hills, Ohio called Ravenwood Castle. It is a castle, hotel, event space, and on Memorial Day weekend, we have rented it out, me and the Champions Grove folks, and I'm bringing in some game hosts and, you know, people who do amazing projects in the TTRP space to run games. You guys come in. We run the games. We run the game. games for you. You play games with each other. We have events. We have fancy dinners. We have all

kinds of stuff that you can. You're going to meet a bunch of cool people. I went to the first one. It was a delight. Thank you, Justin. And that's Memorial Day weekend. And we have accommodation packages for two to four people. You rent out the accommodation. And that also is going to give you, when you give the accommodation package, you get access to the event. And then you're going to reserve the hotel room through Ravenwood Castle. You can find out all the information, Championsgrove.com. It's there. That's also where you can get the packages. But like I said, it's on sale now. And the spots are limited. So don't wait. Championsgrove.com. Two more quick things. I did write a choose year an adventure book. Comes out March 10th next year.

It's called the Stowe away. You can pre-order that at bit.ly slash Griffin Stoweway. And we also have revealed the cover for the final Adventure Zone graphic novel adaptation written by us and our dad illustrated by Carrie Peach, the Adventure Zone story and song. That one comes out on July 14th, July 14th, and you can pre-order that at theadventurezonecomcom. It's a lot of stuff happening next year. Oh, and thanks to Montaigne for the use for our theme song, My Life is Better With You. It's a great one. Great truck. We got a fear, Trave, that we want to be faster than this year. We'll be sure to you, John Stan, would you like to read that?

This year! I'm going to go faster than my fear of a large flock of birds coming down and taking me away into the sky forever. Fair enough. Clean. Simple. Simple and clean. My name is Justin McElroy. I'm Travis McElroy. I'm Griffin McElroy.

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