My Brother, My Brother And Me - MBMBaM 821: Time Lost is Cool Lost

Episode Date: July 6, 2026

Scrounge up your ferris wheel money, grab your waffled cones, and wear a coat I guess because it’s America’s 250th birthday and we’re going all out by catching up with William Henry Harrison, exposing secret jugglers, and dodging the paparazzo. If someone tells you they saw Griffin at that OTHER fair, no they didn’t. He would never. Suggested talking points: Sorry Teachers This is Ferris Wheel Money, Crosstalk is the Worst When it’s Lying, It’s All Fear Baby, That’s a Load-Bearing Pergola Derek, You Have the Stink of Retail, Bottle Up Your Dark Energies, The Griffalanche Asian Pacific Environmental Network: https://apen4ej.org/our-work/ Help support this show and unlock bonus content! Become a member at https://maximumfun.org/joinmbmbam

The McElroy brothers are not experts, and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sex expert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool, baby? It's the side of something striping into a precious friendship. It feels love. My brother, my brother, me an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy.

What up Trave Nation. It's me, your middleist brother, Travis Big Dog Wolfel of Ruhm, the award-winning McElrooy. Let's up, Travnation. It's me, your sweet baby, brother, the 30-and-30 media luminary Griffin McElroy. Welcome to, I mean, it's like an ongoing celebration, I would say, of America and West Virginia, especially American. And Trave Nation. We're all partying for the 250th. I'm so stoked to be here for the big, beautiful lady.

quarter millennial. Is it hard getting around driven like all the traffic and the people coming into town for it? Oh dude, yes, it sucks. The congestion is like fucking for miles around the mall. Everybody trying to get there.

Everyone is trying to get down there because everyone wants to know what's the big inventions this time around. You know what I mean? Yeah, the latest inventions. Everyone wants to check because they know

that's what like all kinds of shit was mostly at the Colombian Expedition in Chicago we love that one devil in the white city fuck yeah and we want to know what's the next telephone what's the next Ferris wheel the next light bulb the next

alternating current have you tried the latest it's a cone dwafel yeah man that shit now everything's in cones Dr. Brenner's candied floss you know what I mean it's all there I tried to find a list online what the big inventions are this time

and I've been I have struggled and I'm guessing they just wanted to be a surprise when you roll up and you're there boots on the ground your boots on the ground and you're watching a Reba McIntyre cover band perform for 14 people they want the inventions to catch you because they know turnouts been low they want the inventions to catch and surprise you

and lift you up and make you celebrate America I do think it is it's tough Griffin that like you're one of the people on this show and one of the funniest things to ever happen is not you know 30 miles as the crow flies from your doorway and i just you just won't walk over there and see what's going on you know what i mean like if you would just like go there yeah you could have already gone there and you'd be talking about you tell you'd even have to pay to get in i don't know if they're church in huntington you guys would be so mad at me for not going you tell me what i would need to wear or otherwise due to signal to everyone that my presence at this extremely and tragically politicized event is as for a goof. Griffin, you started appearing into my friends of work. These are the same excuses you gave on January 6th when you went down there.

I know. I actually don't think that's as funny as what I was going to say. There's a bit of acid on the time with that one. Yes, I was going to say, Griffin, in a much more convivial fashion. One of the headlines has been how few people there are. So I do think that you could start to shift the narrative of like, there's not many people here.

There is this one guy in my brother, my brother me T-shirt who seems to be in a lot of the shots. Don't get me, that's my fear. My fear is that I will go. And the paparazzo will be so. I've never had an issue with the paparazzo myself. But if I go and there's 14 people there, there's a real chance that I will be one of the,

the more notorious individuals on site. And it will get out. And then people will be like, hey, man, what the fuck? And I can't say I wanted a $12 foot long corn dog. Like, I would just pop down for lunch. Griffin, you're my brother and I love you, and I've known you for almost 40 years now.

I don't think you would have a hard time conveying your displeasure at being out of place visibly. I think that in photos, it would be, very clear that you were not happy to be there. One of my love languages is visibly displaying my displeasure at being at a place. Yes, it's something that you have perfected over the years. I think your ability, like a camera would pan across the 14 people present at this huge event. And they'd be like, but that guy hates it.

He hates this so much. I don't love being in a situation. whether it's a concert or open mic comedy or something like that where I know that the performers are putting a lot of, I'm carrying a lot of weight for the performers being one of the very few attendees here. I don't want to make eye contact with, with Meeba Rackintyre, the Reba McIntyre cover band, like they're guitarist and see the desperation in his eyes. And if I go, because it sucks, or I have something wait. better to do. I'm going to see the panic in their face of like, oh no, oh no, don't go. Tell us, what do

you want? Fancy? We'll play Fancy again. I know we've done it a couple times already. I mean, it's Schmancy. Their version's called Schmancy. Well, no, they can sing the song. You understand how... Legally, you think Reba McIntyre is fine with them singing Fancy at the 250 Great American Fair. I don't know. Can I talk about our wheel?

Please talk about your great wheel. Keep on turning. We have a great wheel in West Virginia called the America 250 wheel. It's the world's largest portable ferris wheel. Fuck yeah, dude. Cool name. I was, I, I, I, you keep using that word to portable and it's not all ferris wheels are portable if you're

strong enough. I mean, this one is, what this is in this case, it means rickety. So yeah, the world's largest portable ferris wheel. It's mobile on a different axis than most ferris wheels are mobile. It goes, there's a depth to its movement. It's just simply not an adjective I want attached

to my ferris wheel. Or large machinery of any kind. A permanent fixture, actually, I would love from my face wheel. So it's not that West Virginia has, the reason this is important is that it started at the Florida State Fair. And next month it's going to the Wisconsin State Fair. But right now it's in West Virginia. So ha-chee-machi. It's the biggest one in the world and we finally put ourselves on the map.

But not exclusive. No. No exclusive. You don't need that, though. Here's a quote. from the West Virginia Secretary of Tourism, Chelsea Ruby. We wanted an attraction that people would tell their kids and grandkids about. I've already told my kids about it.

And I had a lot of really great, great words. No words there. Does it say kids, grandkids, and podcast slash streaming audience as a goof about? Was that clarified? The second half of the quote is, it took all of about two minutes for the governor to okay the idea. No shit. No way. You don't fucking say.

You're telling you this wasn't a long, deliberated, we got experts in to talk. You're kidding me. Our dipship carpetbagger governor didn't take more than two minutes to clock whether or not this would be a good idea or not. I don't believe it. Yeah. Here's a quote from the leader of the teachers union of West Virginia. They've been kicking this one around for like a year, guys. They've been trying to figure out whether or not they should pay us any money for way, way, way longer than two minutes.

Like so much longer. Do you think what- We just got an email from them actually saying, sorry, teachers, this is Ferris wheel money. Better luck next time. When it's time to move it

to a different fair, did they just loosen two big nuts on the side of it and just let it roll there? Yep, they point it from Florida to here. It had to go through the bad lands a little bit, through some swampy terrain. A couple of the,

they lost a couple of cars on it, for sure. What's that you want to, oh, no, we can't, that crosses the Grand Canyon. that create, it's like basically a pothole. Now I'll say this. All will be forgiven for the sham of this 250th celebration. All will be forgiven if we can ramp this big ferris wheel over the grandkane.

That would be so sweet. Nothing would be, nothing would make me prouder, nor would it be more representative of the American experiment to watch a big ferris wheel do a huge jump over the Grand Canyon and almost certainly absolutely explode when it lands on the other side. Yeah, but that's fair. Like if that happens, that's hard of it. Get Red Bull on this, Pronto.

We can figure out the logistics on how to get this thing over. And literally, coding in Red Bull, gives you wings. Give it wings to fly. Just if you're curious what the experience

of writing the big wheels like, the wheels elaborate light show incorporates an effect that mimics sparklers and it casts its glow on the entire capital complex. Especially appropriate to the holiday, the ride has a bomb

to the top patriotic theme, including 45, gondolas decorated in tribute to each of the 45 American presidents. It's complete with audio mini-bios that play during the 10-minute ride. Oh, no. Can you imagine? Now, okay, it's not my experience when waiting in line for a Ferris wheel that I get to pick the car.

I don't think you're allowed to say like, no, keep going, however you get. Keep going. That one. I think you do just got to hop in here. Well, it's me. William Harrison. kind, I mean, every time I've been on a Ferris wheel, if you're the car right after they stop to let the first person off, you're going all the way slowly back around while they unload.

How do you think Harrison does fill up the 10? He does. He gives you a minute and a half. Well, I won in a landslide. People are just crazy about my policies. Then I died. Oh, shit. Wear a coat, I guess. What about you? What have you been up to lately? Wear a coat is my whole thing I guess How have things changed in the left? Do you guys have better medicine? Let me tell you some of the cool things I would have done

In my presidency of the day I think it would have gone a little something like this We would have gone to space in my presidency If I'd still been there It's more than just a ride, Ruby says It's truly an all-American experience from beginning to end Yeah, in many ways, I would say that's true. It will be free while in Charleston.

Speaking of, given that the state capital complex includes the governor's mansion, is Governor Patrick Morrissey expected to take a spin himself? Absolutely, Ruby says he wouldn't miss it. Limits permitting, I guess, but like, yeah. But also, yeah, if he thought about it for two minutes before saying yes to it, He was first in line with his, like, I heart Ferris wheel T-shirt and his, like, Ferris wheel-shaped hat and his commemorative Ferris wheel cup. Not so fast, Mr. Governor.

But I... You have to wait for us to put it together. Go faster. Safety rules be damned. It's not, Mr. Governor. It's not... It's in my house. It's in my backyard.

The Capitol Complex includes the governor's mansion. This is technically my house. Technically, you have to let me be the first one on it. Every morning. How does it say? finish if I'm not on the Ferris wheel. You just see, as you go to visit, you see him stumbling out of the car just barfing, like, only nine more presidents to go.

I've almost completed the whole set. Fuck, Harrison was boring. Hey, guys, don't let people on Harrison. That was so boring. Hey, guys, I learned some stuff about some of the presidents. It's made me rethink some things. Rethink. You know what?

History is not kind to some of these decisions, I will say. Maybe I shouldn't have. gotten a $2 million dollar ferris wheel. It's this, what are they going to say in my ferris wheel gondola about me?

Depending on the content of these biographies, we might change some hearts and minds on this ferris wheel. Like someone of a certain persuasion might get assigned the Obama Ferris wheel ride

and then go around it or the Trump Ferris wheel ride and get off and be like, I had no fucking idea. Wow. Holy shit. Guys, we need to have a big family talk right now.

now about our priorities. I was curious. I know that at the fair, Griffin won't go over there, even though it's very funny. He won't go over. So I had to look up for myself what West Virginia's doing.

Oh, no. Thank you. Yeah. So here's our first thing. It is, you know, Country Roads, take me home? Here is a driving...

It's a driving simulator. Of Country Road. What are they playing there, man? What game are they cooking? I'm really, I think it's... I don't know, man. That's hard to say. Come to West Virginia.

It's a lot like... It says Shandano River at the bottom. Okay, but like... Yeah, that's fine, but is it like a forza map? What are we doing? We also got, uh, this is good too. Oh, cool. Like a mini golfing kind of thing.

Yeah, we got some fake stumps that you could take your picture on. There's also, it doesn't show it in here, but there is also a stuffed black bear that you could take your picture with us. Really elevating the West Virginia kind of identity there. Thanks guys. The States that didn't show up, just have a stamp that has. has their state name on it. It's just like, I want to bring,

I want to get in a time machine, I want to bring back Daniel Burnham from 1890 whenever and just show him what our version of World's Fair kind of looks like just to let him know like, dude, you went way too fucking, like all the landscaping and stuff, are you kidding me, dude? Rhode Island's just got two chairs facing each other

because they didn't really want to rep at the fair. You didn't need to do all the stuff that you did end up doing. It would be sick if at West Virginia's booth It was just a big picture of our kick-ass wheel Just like listen Don't think about anything else with West Virginia We're starting over

It's the big wheel state The big wheel state The rolling state We've built a 99% scale model Of the giant wheel For this display We dropped the mountain state thing We don't have mountains

What we did have was a big wheel Now it's in Wisconsin now But for one glorious month Yeah The wheel rolled over the the mountains, crushed them. Crushed them. We had to blast them, cut them down flat

to get this wheel here from Florida. Worth it. This is. We miss it. We can still smell the fresh swamp air in some of the cars. Now, us in Florida, Wisconsin, we're going to stand at three different points

in a room and call to the wheel and see who it goes to. Exactly. I am currently working as a beer merchandise. This is an advice show. This is an, oh, Griffin, thank you. You usually say it, and you didn't. Usually I say it.

Thank you. right. This is an advice show. I'm currently working as a beer merchandiser over the summer. The company I work for sends beer, wine, and shelters to grocery stores, and I stock it on the shelves. Yeah. That's what a merchandise. That's not the end of the question. No, sorry, I thought it was like a definition. I don't think I knew what a merchandiser was, so I actually appreciate it. Griffin hasn't worked retail, Justin. I have. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. No, that's not true. I worked at GameStop for like

two years. Doesn't count. Okay. It's education. opportunity. I took a fucking bullet for my retail job. That's not quite true. You hypothetically could have. I could have almost taken a bullet for my retail job, so don't sit here and tell me what I can't do. I think cross talk is the worst when it's lying. That's I think when the cross talk is the worst. Oh, like I interrupted for a nut for a lie. For a sin. To sin. You interrupted me to sin. To condemn your soul to hell. Yeah. That's why it's called sin interrupting. Quite frequently. That was the original title of this show. Quite frequently. Customers at the

grocery stores I work at will come and ask me questions about the location of product I have nothing to do with, such as, where are the almonds, not these almonds, the other ones, or where are the diced peaches? Most times, I can say I simply do not know, but at times, customers will insist I do. Brothers, how am I supposed to deal with customers insisting I know where the secret almonds are? That's from merchandiser misconception in North Carolina. Settle. I like that. Have you got, this isn't, this isn't the heart of the question. but have you guys ever been in a situation?

All right, I might be alone. The heart of the question was the other alternate title for this show. When I'm at a grocery store and I can't find something, it takes a lot of courage and gumption for me to bother an employee to ask them. Yes, yes, yes. And then the moment when I realize they also don't write away know where the thing is, I wish that there was a code phrase I could give that's like, okay, scrap this hole in debt.

I actually don't care that much. Undue, undo, undo. I thought you would be able to give me, like, latitude and longitude, and I'd go straight there and grab it. But you and I on a hunt together is more burden than I was planning to give you today. I want to be crystal clear because I think a lot of the time these types of behaviors are wrongly categorized as, oh, well, that's just macho, like, man bullshit of, oh, I'm not going to ask for help to ask where the thing is at the Home Depot. I'm scared to talk to another person. Maybe they're busy. Maybe they don't fucking work there.

They just wear the same color shirt as everyone else who works there. There's so many ways this thing can go bad that have nothing to do with pride. It's all fear, baby. Maybe they were already helping someone else. Maybe they were already helping someone else. And now I look like an asshole to two people. It's all fear, baby. All the one.

Oh, fear. Not Home Depot, but lows or sometimes like any of those Home Improvement stores. I'm also worried about like, I'm going to call it the right thing. Because if I knew, if I knew exactly what I needed, I would look it up in the app and the app tells me what Ilet's in. So I don't know what it's called. So, uh-oh, now I'm having to be like, I need a bent piece of metal with holes on each end.

And I know there's a name for it. I know there's something called. You know a springy thing that goes between a door with the other end? Where's that? I imagine you're working at a theater and you're building weird prop shit. And they asked the question, well, what are you using it for? And you have to say, well, we're doing a production of Macbeth and I need a fake pipe bomb. Don't have to say.

I don't know how else to describe what I need. Yeah, because you can't be like, I need a pipe. Yay large. I need to put, I need it to look like a, what if I was making an exploding pipe for a, for pretend play? It's hard to because as somebody who's worked a lot of different retail jobs, there are some employees, you're going to talk to that absolutely know the store like the back of their hand will tell you exactly where the thing is because they know it as well as they know their own name or it's like me at best buy in any department other than media where it's like the car stereos what the fuck i've never been in there how would i have any idea i've never even got where is that in the store i work because i have a dude i have a dude at loz that if i see him i know that not only does he know the aisle and the section he'll tell me what like level of the to look at. And I've talked to him probably 50 times in the last three years.

There's no recognition in his eyes when he looks at me. But when I see him, I'm saved. I know. I've been spent a lot of time at home improvement stores recently. And sorry. Yes, thank you. Home. Thank you, Travis.

In accordance with the law. Sorry, these stores, we got to be clear, sell merchandise and memory of from the Home Improvement Television Program. My least favorite. I got one of the planks from Wilson's fence. It cost me $7,000. I got Wilson's face. No way.

Yeah, it's a Chase face. It was hard to fund. It's tough to navigate. Home Improvement stories are the only stories where they will just all of a sudden be like, this aisle is closed. You cannot shop here. That's crazy. Nobody does that.

And then it's like, sometimes there's nobody in there. So it's like, hi, is this. part of the source still? I need something from there. And then if you have to ask, if somebody clocks you looking, then it's like, hey, don't even think about it. Don't even think about it. We might be using.

Yeah, it might be using Big Joe or whatever it's called to grab this thing down. This really, this really got me. There was an aisle closed that I really needed something from and I waited for a long time for them to open it back up. And I was just like, I really need. And then they had a machine in the other side, in the adjacent aisle.

And I was saying like, God, guys, this is ridiculous. Just let me in here. And I was almost about to be frustrated. And then I realized what they were doing was going up way up to the top. And if they had messed that up, they would have pushed it over into the next aisle that I was so desperate to get my fucking foam out of or whatever. It's like, yeah, you know what? I should have trusted you, Lowe. You knew what you were doing.

I'm sorry. And it's Derek's first day on the forklift, and he had a rough night last night. So we closed the three aisles. We don't know what this cat's going to do. He could take a fridge out. He took out the entire Ammona section. He's wearing dark sunglasses. We don't know where he's even looking right now.

Who we got on inventory? Oh, Dizzy Derek? No, shut down. That whole wing of the store is gone for Dizzy Derry. Lock the doors. Off limits. Get your screws from Target. Everybody out to the garden center.

Go to the garden center. Evacuate. You might be safe there. No, it's a load-bearing pergola, Derek. You're going to. We've talked about this. Derek? They talked about that.

God damn. Watch what I can do. Derek, no. Derek. God, if his dad didn't know the store. This happened when I worked at Best Buy. It did not matter what someone was wearing. If people saw them putting stuff on shelves or taking stuff on shelves, the assumption was this cat nose thing.

I've been places in regular clothes and people have asked me where things are. You have the stink of retail all about you, Tray. I do. I carry that. with me. I can't shake it. It's an energy. And I, man, just say like, yeah, I, I just focus on the beer. All I know is the beer.

It's awkward, though, because you have two choices. One is, I don't know. Okay. I mean, that's a little, I get it. That's probably the fair, reasonable thing to do. The hard thing is most stores are like, are like a lot of grocery stores, especially, are labeled in such a way that if you will take a couple seconds and just, like, orient yourself and look at a sign.

But then if you start doing that and the person clocks you, it's like, well, I could have, I could have looked at this. You know, it's like, okay, but yeah, but that is what to do. You look at the side. That's what you do, yeah. When it retroactively makes it, even if I've been walking the aisles for like 15 minutes looking for a thing, and then I ask someone and then they're doing the same thing I did, I want to like just stop and like, hey, before we continue this journey together, I want you to know that I did this too. And maybe I'm not saying you should stop. I just don't want you to think you were my first stop before I looked at the headings on everything. Talk about these invisible borders to people who have trouble interacting in the world.

Another thing at these home improvement stores is a lot of products aren't ready for you to buy it. There's one more step where you got to get somebody to say, hey, cut this to what I want it. When I see that, what I think is, no, I will buy. something else. I can't buy this. I can't go get a guy to do the thing. I will buy the standard size thing and have it be wrong. Right. Find this key.

Get somebody with a key to unlock this thing. Becomes, do I need more stuff in my life? Perhaps my life is already too clutter. I don't actually need to find somebody with a key. Justin, if I'm not mistaken, you seize the means of production just so you would not have to ask someone for help cutting wood to specific sizes.

Right. This is why I fabricate. Yes, I will fabricate it myself. Thank you. I need. That's why I learned lock picking. I want to remind you, and I'm sure your bosses would be happy to do this too, and maybe the grocery store doesn't want you to do this. You're not just in merchandising. You're also in sales. This is an opportunity.

Oh, you don't want almonds. Gross. Have you tried a beer? Dude, you know, oh, you wanted crunchy nuts? That's fine and all, but you know what the great. I can't help you. Take the edge off. Hey, you're going to be really disappointed that you couldn't find those almonds tonight.

It's going to be a hard day for you. You're going to have a lot to come back from. Try this seltzer. It's not going to replace the almonds, but it will feel avoiding your heart from not being able to find them. You should be allowed. If you are a beer merchandiser, you should be allowed to once a day. Just once a day. Someone says something and you're like, hey, I know what might help.

Yeah, one. Just once a day. should be legally allowed to crack open one and just hand it to somebody in the store. This is going to make the searching feel a lot more fun. Mm-hmm. Goodbye.

Where do you keep the Pokemon cards? Oh. Don't worry about that. Those will depreciate in value. You're not going to get it, Charzard. Have you tried a big beer? Have you tried a big cold beer? A big beer for beer.

You know, most of these beers don't have alcohol anymore. You just pass it over. Just pass it over to them. Don't get beer to kids. I suspect my partner is learning to juggle in secret. The problem is that he's still learning and keeps dropping the pins late at night while he practices. We live in 500. Not much of a fucking secret.

Why is he starting with pins? There's a 500 square foot apartment with wooden floor, so the sound wakes up both me and our dog, who proceeds to bark until the juggling stops. Brothers, how do I help my partner get better at juggling? So he stops dropping things without telling him I know about a secret hobby and or embarrassing him. That's from Sleepless and Silver Spring. When I was in college, I took up throwing knives and I practiced in my dorm room because there was a cork board on the wall. And eventually, RAs, why is that? When I say eventually, within 10 minutes, RAs came by and they were like, stop.

What are you doing in here? And I said, putting up posters in the cork board. And they said, it's really loud. And I said, yeah, having a hard time getting these thumbtacks to stick. and they looked at me and I looked at them and then they realized they didn't care and they left. And what I mean to say here is

learning to juggle in secret is a really good lie about something else this person might be doing. There's for sure something else going. My thought they are running a speakeasy candlepin bowling situation up on the higher floor of your lodging. That's only one option.

Why not something softer? If you left maybe in a passive way, just a bunch of soft balls around. Yeah. Like, is there a passive, tasteful way to just have bunches of soft balls? Did their uncle who owned a bowling alley die and leave them a bunch of pins? Travis, I feel like you didn't even think about if there was a tasteful way to leave a bunch of soft balls around. Yeah, I feel like you immediately jumped in. Sometimes it starts to feel like we're just saying different ideas.

But there's got to be a way to leave a bunch of soft balls around in a major. manner that is. We're talking about balls that are soft, not soft balls, right? Yeah. Well, soft balls are pretty hard, which is crazy. They would make less sound, but yeah, I mean, but you got to be careful. You don't want to give them one of those, like, sets of clutz balls, because who wants to be called a clutz by the juggling items they just bought? You need to secretly take up hacky sack, right? And then let your partner find your soft balls lying around. And then you own up to hacky sacking. Like, yeah. I've been trying to learn hacky sack in secret.

Yeah. But now, if I'm being honest, I bought too many soft balls. And like, you can really only hacky one sack at a time. I don't know what I'm going to do with all these other soft balls lying around. I don't know if hacky sacks are regulation-sized juggle balls. Just one issue with the play. Okay. I try to play in the space.

You guys yelled at me about not playing in the space. I played in the space and then Griffin's giving me regulations. I've turned on Griffin. I'm not. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. I'm helping. What I did was helpful.

I said, do a different idea. That one won't work. That's helping. That's not like, that's not just, what do you got there, Justin? Risk support. Oh, I thought you were like pulling out something to juggle. Honest to God, dude, I think I've been waiting with bated breath for you to be like some juggle balls like these guys. The turn, the prestige.

I don't know how to juggle. Okay. Sorry. Sure. Sure, dude. I have tried. I mean, like, listen, if we had, if I had not tried and failed to learn to juggle so many times, I don't think I would have been as hard on jugglers as I have been over the year. Is it possible, Justin, like Rookie of the Year?

Now that you've had your carpal tunnel surgery, you're like going to pick him up and be like, holy shit. He's super good at Juggle. They tightened some stuff in there. And his juggling reflexes are faster than they've ever been. How, why wasn't Rookie of the Year? It would be sick if the rookie had just been a remake of Rookie of the Year about an old man that gets a surgery that makes him good at pitching. That would be a better flick. right?

Like, yeah. It's just a, I get a 45-year-old Justin Macroy type gets a surgery. Stepping in for Dennis Quaid, I believe?

Yeah. Who is the rookie in the room? But this is the same. They get called to the same auditions all the time. Yeah, for sure. But here's the thing about it that really twists

into like fun territory. He doesn't really understand the rules of baseball. Yeah. So as long as they want him to keep pitching it in the square, he can do that, no problem.

But if one of the gentlemen starts to take a different bag that they perform, then he's not going to be aware of know how to. Hey, that guy's on the wrong side. That guy's on the wrong side of the place. He's running. What's he doing?

Stop. Is this okay? Is he allowed to do that? Oh, he just slid into the dirt pretty hard. Hey, hey, Jeter, Konseko, throw him out. Our names are Todd. P. Rows. Chris Samo, throw him out, somebody.

Oh, that's four. How many other baseball players? There's five. David Ortiz. I only know the ones that are in the Simpsons baseball episodes like that, or if they've been on Shark Tank. Darry Strawberry? Yeah.

That's seven guys. Eight. I'm trying to remember other Boston Red Sox who won the World Series. Fricking, the big unit. The guy with the long hair and looked. Randy Johnson. Yeah. Guy with the long hair who tried to look like a, uh, uh, uh,

Jada. What? That's eight. I mean, I can do. I think we've done like 12 now. We got to start a line up. The Sorda? No, he was a manager.

LaForge? Yeah, he's in Star Trek. He played baseball a lot, I bet. Are the pins hidden? This is what's weird to me. Are the pins hidden away, or do we all know about the bowling pins? Do you know what I'm saying? What was not included in this email is what is the excuse your partner is?

giving when you're like, hey, what the fuck was that noise? I would have loved some supplemental information here of like when I pressured them about it, they say like, sorry, I dropped all of my, my, you know, tea kettles, my collector tea kettles said, all my brats dolls fell off the shelf. Like, what are they saying? As someone who has cohabitated with a partner for a long time, were I to be dropping several bowling pins an evening in a 500 square foot apartment? After a few days of them not asking me about it. I'm going to start to think something's up with them. Yeah, yeah, why are they more curious?

They've definitely heard me drop these bowling pins in our 500 square foot apartment. It's a cry for help. I mean, help me from learning to juggle. Please, give me, Valerie. This is your own, this may be your last chance to intervene because once they're good, they're not going to be making much noise when they don't hear it anymore. That's the, that's the tragic thing about it. You can only, like, you can stop it early, but when it's too far gone, you don't even know when

they're juggling anymore. You can turn away and they'd be juggling. Time lost is cool lost. Yeah. They're going to say, oh, babe, it's just my first time doing it. I was just experimenting and I won't do it again. It's not the first time they're doing it. It's the first time they got caught doing it.

This has been happening for a long, long time. It's actually the 10th time that got caught. And it's just the first time you felt the energy to go up and see what was happening. because you have caught them many times and just thought like, well, maybe next time. Hey, babe, what are you doing? Because I will say in their defense, learning to juggle, especially bowling pins,

is not something I would want to do in front of someone I would want to continue to find me attractive. Yeah. Right? Because there is that immediate, even the first hundred throws and you don't get it,

there's a feeling in the room of like, I should stop this, right? I should stop. This isn't for me. I mean, I can, yes. I would tell you, Travis for experience. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Hey, would it be all right with you guys if we took a quick break for our sponsors to support us and our work? Yeah. And then came back and did more jokes. I was like that.

I don't know about you, Justin, but I keep getting older. Have you noticed this about yourself? Yeah, it's unfortunate, man. And I need doctors now more than ever. Now more than ever, doctors are keeping Travis going. Yes. every day there's a new thing that hurts and is uncomfortable and shouldn't I've never felt like that before and now feels like it and what can you do about it trap we need to pivot to the solution because

i don't know joseph because i don't know how to find any gd doctors okay let me do it then i'll tell you about zok talk doc doc is a service that helps you find the doctor that's perfect for you so if you've got something going on in your life you're like i don't know the appropriate physician for this maybe just move to a new place so you want to mix up your care whatever you need a complicated team of medical experts to keep your various mechanations and parts going got new new insurance whatever the the case may be zoc doc lets you search and compare your local in network doctors so like you look around you say hey these are the ones that work for me and then they are going to help you find them and help you get set up with the people that are going to get you the appropriate care.

You can see actual appointment openings and click to book a visit, usually within like 24 to 72 hours. It's pretty cool. I think if you're, uh, it can be kind of overwhelming. I think to find a position to find the appropriate one for you. And Zococ really does make it easy. Your health matters. This was so important to Justin that when he found a physician he married her, just to know, like, that's where my position is.

That predated Zock Doc, but like it would have made it a lot easier, I think. Yeah. Your health matters and taking care of yourself shouldn't be complicated. Find and book the right doctor with Zok doc doc. Head to Zock.com slash my brother to get started and check that appointment off your to do list. That's Z OCDOC.com slash my brother. Now, Justin, we've talked about Squarespace many, many times.

And perhaps there are people listening who have heard it but haven't really listened. But Justin, I want to ask you, what is this that I'm holding right here in my hands? Well, Travis, that's the I-Hart Media Best Podcast Read Award. Best Ad Read Award. That's right. Right here. You know what that means? What does that?

I mean you know what the fuck we're talking about when we talk about ads. Jesus. And our sponsors. So when we tell you that Squarespace fucking rules, that's coming from someone with the hardware to prove that they know what they're talking about. It's like really intense. I don't know that they wanted this intense. I mean, they've stuck with us through thick and through thin. No.

Squarespace is great. All right. You'll like it. It gives you everything you need to offer services. It's not good, but it's a better energy than. I love Squarespace like a brother. Good. Love is better.

You get more sticky. You get my fly. I would kill someone to support Squarespace. That's too far. You went too far. You don't say again, Travis, you ever shot it. I would injure someone to support Squarespace. No?

No. No. I would make them hurt. I would make someone hurt for Squarespace. I'd hurt them for Squarespace. You'd hurt somebody for Squarespace. I would hurt a person for Squarespace. Wow.

Like if they asked you to or defend their honor? I'd do anything. I'd do anything they ask me to. This is one of the longest term healthiest relationships I've ever had. This was Squarespace. And I would hurt some, I would hurt a person for them. Yeah. Wow.

But that's the opposite of what they're about. They're all about helping people and helping to make great websites. That's why they have Griffin to do the hurting for them. Yeah. Yeah. They need me. They need me to do this dark fucking work for them. Squarespace is wetworks guy.

What are they saying? That's weird you don't hear much about geocities these days. Yeah. Huh. What are what happened to them? The griffelanch. That's what happened. The griffelanch came storming down the mount.

That's what happened. I said the storm's coming, but I took it back from QAnon. I don't think they said that. Now it means a different thing. Seems unlikely. Cuenon's done, and so I went in there, and I picked and choose the best parts of it. Like the storm's coming and I hit my elbow to let them know I would hurt someone for Squarespace. And they need me to do this work.

They will say they don't want me to do this work, but they need me to do this work for them. They need it. It's necessary. And they also work for you. Huh? See how I turn that around? Did you say the hyperlink? I will.

I would like, yeah, I mean, I'll say it again, though. Everybody knows how we feel about Squarespace. We use them. We love them. They are the only reason the show continues. Yeah. Probably. head to Squarespace.com

slash my brother for free trial and when you're ready to launch use offer code my brother to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. I'm another question. Yes.

I'm a DoorDash delivery driver and I love getting Thank you for your service. People's cute pets when I drop food off. I usually take a minute to try to get the pet in my drop-off photo. I love that. I like that too.

I like being in my own drop-off photos. You guys ever do that? No. God. Thumbs up. Love it. I did it. I can't wait to eat the spaghetti.

But I do like the idea of my dog being in the photo. Like my dog answered the door. I think that that's awesome. That's cool. I just try to get an especially excited dog in the shot and it got a little too excited and push the door open and the door slammed shut behind it. The dog is now out here with me. Get off your phone. And my knocks and calls for the owner go unheeded.

Do I just leave the dog out here? Certainly not. Do I fully open the door front door to let the dog back in? Is this my dog now? That's from pause. This is it typically confused in Pennsylvania. Huh. You latch your doors.

You messed up. Yeah, clearly. No, yeah. But it's not their fault. Let's rank the three options they gave us before I think we hop into it. Yeah. I would say, I would say, is this my dog now is obviously the most sinister of the questions presented here. That's theft for sure.

That's theft. You don't want to do that. Do I leave the dog out here? That's animal endangerment. So I would rank that around number two. And I would say maybe your least bad option here is to break in to enter for good, for a good purpose, for a good reason. Here's what I'll say. I know for a fact, exterior front doors open inward.

So this must be like a screen door or glass door scenario. I feel less weird about you opening that if their front door is open, right? Then you're just opening a screen door or like a glass exterior door. Dude, screen doors are not. Vampire rules. don't apply to screen doors. If the front door is open and a vampire sees that, they can swing that little rusty

son of a bitch out of the way. No problem. Screen door is just for bugs. That's just to keep bugs out. Not people, vampires, or anything else. It's just a bug bar. Vampires don't have to obey screen door. No way, dude. They can miss right through those. If an eight-year-old Griffin can walk through

it, you don't need to honor as a vampire. First of all, I was much older than eight years old when I walked through and destroyed our Uncle David's screen door at his nice house in Florida. Thank you for my name. Because I saw. Is that better, Griffin?

Is it better that you are older? I was at least 15. Don't interrupt him. I was at least 15 or 16. And I did see his cool golf cart in the driveway. And I yelled, Grant DeFado. And I jumped through his screen door with a plumb. And it's, he got angry at me.

Griffin, he got pissed. He always had a plum in his hand. He's just a little scamp. Always had a little plum and he'd be nibbling on it. He loves his fresh Georgia plums. And he got madder at me than I. I think is appropriate for a family member to get mad at another family member. Matter that Griffin,

then our father ever got mad at any of the three of us for any of the stupid shit we ever did. The maddest of family member has ever been at me. And he got only, I will say, matter when I tried to call to apologize and ended up laughing through the apology. He was P-Oed. That one, I don't blame him. But the other one, I'm, hey, Dave. I'm family, man.

I apologize. Matter than I ever saw Uncle Dave get about anything else. Which makes you think that maybe Uncle Dave had beef with Griffin. that he was keeping seething under the surface? I think he maybe just hates bugs, and it was a new door. It was a new door. I do remember that it was a new door.

It was a brand new door, and he hates bugs, and I jumped right through it, and I did yell Grand Theft Auto, which makes it sound premeditated. And I was talking about the game and not the crime, but really, what was I doing? I don't know. I can't Monday morning quarterback this one,

except to say, Uncle Dave, take a chill pill, buddy. I think you should be. get this off my chest. Rarely is this show a place of familial healing. And now I feel like we've made space for that. And I appreciate it so much from you guys. Yeah.

On this week's heavyweight, Griffin deals with the screen door. Our uncle Dave. Griffin asked his Uncle Dave from like 17 years ago to take a fucking chill pill, dude, it is not that big a deal, man. That would be a better, like that would be a good version of heavyweight if it was just people calling to let people apologize to them. I believe there's something you wanted to say to me, Uncle Dave. And didn't see your memories.

You'll find it to be so. I'm sure it keeps you up at night. I'm ready. Whenever you are, let the apology begin. I own two dogs, one of them, like a 75-pound, very rambunctious, excitable beast named Lily. If this dog is able to push the door open on its own, first of all, not the first time this has happened. No way. Second of all,

latch you don't, like, let the dog back in. That person isn't listening. You got to understand. That person isn't listening. The person who owns the house and the dog isn't listening, we can't talk to them. Okay. Let the dog back in.

If my dog got out, let the dog back in and maybe with a note that says like, do better. Got out again. Better. Do better. Do better right. Latch it, idiot.

On every gift receiving occasion. The dog will eat the food. The dog will eat the food. The dog will eat the food. The dog will eat the food. Okay. On every gift receiving occasion, my brother spends an eternity opening his presence because he insists on untying every knot and loosening every bit of tape. What's a fun and inventive way I can make sure I don't spend endless hours watching someone open a gift?

That's from Outraged Observer in Oslo. That's fascinating. Yeah. That this is still a problem in other countries. Everybody's still doing gifts. Okay, this is interesting because I thought for sure we'd all kind of approach this from a different, pretty, aggressive manner, but it sounds like you're aligned with this person and their feelings. Sorry, my comment, Griffin, I think I'm, you may have misunderstood. I was just thinking like,

wow, global reach. You know what I mean? That's all. Oh, that our show is reaching on. Yeah, just like, cool. Oh, okay. Yeah, I misinterpreted the comments. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, also people are doing gifts. It's like, wow, it's a problem everywhere, but it's like, wow, we've really made an impact. You know, I think that was more recognition. How many presents. not counting Christmas because Christmas we expect this to go long but how many presents are y'all opening in a given year?

We could take a monthly average although most, I'll say this guys, I go entire months without opening a present. The fact that you would open. Oh, I get presents for myself all the time. Well, do you wrap them and put shit on them? Depends on how spicy I'm feeling.

You absolutely don't. I'm trying to be vulnerable and ask a real question. I don't wrap anything all year. maybe at Christmas I will wrap some things but other than that it is just gift bags gift bags

well you rap well you you you you rap about the gospel that's true Griffin I rap about my relationship with Jesus Christ

and my very very traditional interpretation of his teachings so yes I do rap about that all I'm saying is and about gender roles like I do rap about those things

extensively to be fair R-O-L-L-S Justin loves baking gender roles. Yeah, yeah. These are, if you haven't had them, they're great. Is gift bags a also a thing, gift bags? I feel like gift bags is a way of saying,

I want to keep the surprise, but I'm not going to expend any energy towards it. Especially, like, my children have reached age or they get invited to birthday parties regularly, school age, and the moment of like, oh shit, that kid's birthday parties tomorrow, right? I'm not rapping. Bag, that thing for that.

If I get a beautiful parcel that's all taped up just the way I like, let me have the time I want to enjoy revealing it. I think that that's a, I think that's not an outrageous ask. I'm not opening presents most months. You can sit there for a minute and a half while I undo it. Like I'm doing some sort of burlesque routine for my present. Allow me the time and space that I need for this because I don't have a lot going on right now. You know what I mean? What if you got so good at wrapping a gift that you could do it all, ribbon and everything, with one piece of tape?

That's crazy. Like folds around that. You've cut it into like an octagon shape that folds around the bottom. What is it? And the ribbon comes from the oven. What if you could eat the wrapping paper when you were done with it? Oh shit. Like a little wrapping paper?

The snowsberries is like snowsberries? The present inside could be a hoverboard that lets you fly around the city. Hey, our kids When you guys go to birthday parties with your kids By and large, are people opening presents at the parties? Because I'm seeing a wild disparity in this. Okay. I'm seeing it's all over the map at parties that I have been to.

It seems like people are opening, not opening, where are we at? The only time we open is like in the small family, you know, the grandparents. Yeah. Right, because it's like the grandparents need to see that. Yeah. And it's fine. I get that. But no.

with kit no first of all one I don't want to assume every kid is able to bring the same kind of gift and everything that they everybody will bring gifts it's not expected or that anybody wants to watch that yeah that's the other thing man you're basically it's like if you fed one wolf out of hungry wolves at a time and you're like hey you ate other hungry wolves just watch me feed this one wolf I want to confirm this before I start complaining about it then if that's where we're all at,

why does it seem like there's always one fucking person at every party that's like, well, shouldn't we shouldn't we start to, and shouldn't everybody gather around to start opening? Shouldn't we? They know,

they get us. They're also the person who says, and that big one is from us. They know they did a kick-ass job. They know they did a kick-ass job. The thing we're not saying, but I think we all feel in our hearts, and I bet every parent does,

is that I can't guarantee the reaction either of my beautiful boy. are going to get is going to be satisfactory to I already have this slide like they're not they won't do it exactly like that Last year I had 37. Oh, no, boys don't. Not quite that diabolical, but we had one birthday where two different kids and an extended family member all sent one of my beautiful boys the same stomp rocket, where you stomp on a thing and it shoots a rocket way up in the sky. I love those. I don't think we can get enough of them because so many of these things end up on the goddamn roof when I bring my powerful boot down to launch it way up high.

Hell yeah. Your special boot that you wear a rocket? My special boot and my kids want to see how strong I am. I'll show you, but that shit's going to go right on the roof. I want as many rockets as I can get my hands on, but the kids are going to. And my kids will say it with no malice or judgment. I have this. Oh, I already have this one.

And when that happens, you will see Teresa and I lock eyes from across the room and like look at Beebe and she'll look at me. And I'm like, mm, mm, mm. Don't say it. Don't do it. Oh, yeah, just like the one I already have. I love it. That's a better version. Huh.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Cool. And then Trees and I will say something along lines of, yeah, but who knows where that other one is. Yeah, that one's broken and sucks. The one you have now sucks. We all have been saying.

Actually, honey, I think that broke. Yeah. I burned it. Yeah. I'm pretty sure broke. Oh, wow. No way. Quick before we wrap.

I just wanted, this is like, I just wanted to, this was in my desk. And I didn't want to lose. track of it real quick. I want to tell you guys about Camilo. It's a haunted doll watch. Justin, I'm going to interrupt you real quick. If you guys haven't watched the video, Justin posted where Sidney opens the haunted doll with like that, uh, the crocheted slinky clown thing. He's right there behind him. You can, you can call him by me. Her facial reactions are so good watching and because it feels like both the judgment of the haunted doll and Justin's life choices. I love it. Yeah. I want that this one today is Camila.

And I wanted to talk about Camillo Because this is really a very A very interesting story Who's on that Raisin Brand box, Justin? Oh, you'd like to talk about Commemorative Raisin Brand Box? Thanks, Treff. It's scary to have a Haunted doll on the screen While we're looking at the Raisin Brand box.

Who is? Hold on, let me pin you. Okay. What are we looking at here? It's William Shatner. Okay. It says Will Shatt. He did a raisin brand promotion. Help Will Shatt keep his mission moving. So that's William Shatner.

Oh, because it says right on the front there, high fiber. Happy gone. Shats daily log like he's shitting. Will Shat. I don't want to, why would Raisin Brand? Is that a joke box or did Raisin Brand really want to talk about? No, that's commemort. You can get it on Walmart.

About Will Shatner's. But I already bought it. Not that one. We know what will move product is people thinking about Will Shatner's Dokey. Movements. I don't know It's gross, dude

I mean people like Star Trek They don't I like Star Trek okay I don't like thinking about this old man's poop I mean people like tech war It certainly doesn't It certainly doesn't whip the appetite Okay

I don't see why they wouldn't like that So back to the haunted doll Back to Camille I didn't bring up the William Shatter Commit of Raisin Brand Box That's for my cereal podcast Yeah Meet Camilo

Meet Camillo I don't want to I acquired Camillo I acquired Camillo in the kind of way that makes your stomach drop before your mind can catch up What? Oh it was on the Hollywood Tower of Terror

She came from a private seller Who refused to list her publicly Someone who messaged me late at night Saying I don't want her in my home Another Sunrise No photos at first Wait, why Sunrise? Not another sunrise

A small antique doll with glass eyes that, quote, shifted on their own, and a presence that made the seller's pets refuse to enter the room. That would imply, not another sunrise implies like, it's the middle of the night. Come right now. She sleeps at night. This is the only time I can contain her. Drive across state lines and get this doll right now.

Okay. When the box arrived, it was wrapped in layers of cloth and twine, as if the previous owner believed containment mattered. It took forever for my brother-in-law to open it. Such a dick. The moment I lifted her out, the air around me tightened. Wow. Air around me tightened.

What's that feel like you think? Her name wasn't given, but the energy that rolled off her whispered one word over and over. Camilo, Camilo, Camilo, Camilo, Camilo. Don't you dare get ASMR to that, weirdos. Camilo's origins are tangled in witchcraft, an old world dark magic with a J and a K. She has crafted in a left out now, dude. That's the best kind of dark magic. Don't even fucking come in with your dark magic if it's not from the old country.

She was crafted in the late 1800s by a practitioner who specialized in binding spirits. Not benevolent ones, but those pulled from the edges of curses. Grief and shadow work gone wrong. You know, that was such a niche profession back then, but you could make a living on it. And I think that that says a lot about how the economy has changed. I think the economy could also benefit from having more skilled trade crafters. Bring back American production. Bring back American production of spirit vessels.

Thank you. The spirit that took root in Camillo was said to be a fragment of a woman who practiced blood rights and sympathetic magic with a K but a G. Said like you. Kind of interesting. This doll is 200 years old.

Who was there that's like, hey, I'm going to say this to you? It was a fragment of the soul of a woman. She was feared in her village for her ability to hex crops. twist luck and manipulate dreams. When she died, her followers attempted to preserve her power

by anchoring her essence into an object. Camilo was the result. Her original keeper disappeared within months. Every owner after that either sold her quietly or abandoned her entirely. She has never stayed anywhere long until she came to me. Then why fucking e-banger?

Yeah. You know what I mean? She just got settled. And now I'm looking to turn a profit. Yeah. Times are tight. Also, if I was Camila at this point, yeah, I'd be a little miffed. I would make some people's life.

I'm getting bounced around. Camilla's just looking for forever home. Give me some stability. Yeah, that's cool. Camilla's not a passive spirit. If I collect all the fragments. Uh-huh. Can I put the witch back together?

How big will she be? She's eight feet tall. Yes. And you can make an eight-foot-tall galactus. If you get all the witches, each one has a different piece. Awesome. How many fragments are we talking here? Because I could do, I could find eight dolls on eBay,

If it's like, if they really exploded this lady. Yeah. Her essence into like a thousand pieces, there's no fucking way. The newest Resident Evil game is so weird. You gotta collect all these dolls that put together a giant woman. It's more of a banjo-cazooie collectathon. Like you're finding all the witch fragments all over raggedy. And it's browser-based.

Camila has kept in my storage room with my other dark energies I don't like to mess with. That seems safe. Yeah, let them all bottle up and perkily. Just lock them up in one little dark box and give it a good shake every once in a while, you know? Just really piss them off. Let him hang out and talk. Every tool confirms the same thing. Camillo is powerful, deliberate, and deeply rooted in dark magic, J and K. Mm. J.K. K. Okay. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast, which is called my brother, my brother, and me, still, despite the fact that it is hard to trademark. Impossible, some people would say. Hey, very exciting news.

Next week, the final graphic novel in our Adventure Zone balance series is coming out story and song, but you can still pre-order it right now at the Inventurezonecomcom. If you pre-order from one of our indie book store partners, you get a bookplate signed by one of us and Kerry. There's a book release event next week in Boston. Tickets are on sale now. It's July 16th at 7 p.m. at the Chevalier Theater, and each ticket includes a signed paper copy of story and song provided by Brookline Booksmith. And there's a special mid-month episode of Clubhouse on Tuesday, July 14th, to celebrate the book coming out.

And we're going to do a regular monthly clubhouse on the 21st. So it's all there. It's all there. This book is so good, and I'm so excited for people to read it. Yeah. It's weird to be proud of something we make, but this is definitely... This one's for real. We got merch over at the Macquarie Merch Store Newsta for the month of July.

I want to call out the Trav Nation Centennial Magnet if you're feeling in the mood to be patriotic but not for this particular country, then you can celebrate Travnation as you're That's actually one of our many slogans. Yeah, yeah. A place you can be proud of is Travination's slogan.

10% of all of our merch proceeds this month will also be donated to the Asian Pacific Environmental Network. All of our merch stuff is over at mackroymerch.com. Hey, thanks to Montaigne also for the use for our theme song, My Life is better with you. It's a song that brings me strength in my

times of greatest need. Wow, that's beautiful. Thank you. Really beautiful. What are we gonna throw? Yeah, I feel like I threw something last time. Give me a second. Okay, sure, yeah, of course.

Chad, would you be pissed off if I threw the pocket watch that you gave us as groomsman presence at your wedding? No, ma'am. Are you sure? Time flies, baby. That's really good. It's really good, man.

Thank you. He just came up with that. You sure you won't be pissed off if this thing, like, explodes because it's pretty old at this point? No, go for it. It's a beautiful. I have no attachment. Here we go.

I am so, I am so pissed off. It bounced so good. Did you see how good that bounce? Yeah, that was actually one of the things I looked for when I purchased them. That's fucking crazy. I'm Justin McElroy. I'm Travis McElroy. I'm Griffin McElroy.

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