My Dad Wrote A Porno - Footnotes: Lin-Manuel Miranda

Episode Date: September 26, 2019

The Grammy, Tony and Emmy-award winner and creator of smash-hit musical 'Hamilton' Lin-Manuel Miranda joins the gang to talk about the potential Porno musical, his relationship with his own father and the great (but very much not late) Dick Van Dyke Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now it's time for our first guest of Season 5, guys, and it's a biggie. He's won Tonys, he's won Grammys, he's won Emmys, he's won a bloody Pulitzer Prize, for God's sake. This show's getting way too highbrow. It's only the creator and star of Hamilton, Lin-Manuel Miranda. Hello, long-time fan for some caller. Have I fluffed you enough there? Yes, fantastic. Is that enough for you?

Yes. Okay, good. Great. This is mega. This is amazing. Oh, thanks. Thanks for the lovely crisps you've put out and the jammy dodgers. You've never had a jammy dodger.

You still haven't had a jammy dodger. Let's go. You've dodged the dodger. Okay. Oh, what do you think? Yeah, it's pretty good. Pretty? Sorry, pretty good?

You can't put that on the poster. I'd say indifferent. They're the cornerstone of British culture. Would this get made on Great British Bake Off? I think they have recreated a jammy dodgy, yeah. Mm-hmm. All right. That's fine now, is it?

If it's around on Great British Bake Off... Basically, that's the seal of football. It's legit confectionery. Just for context, it's 10.45 at night. We are in an Airbnb in cardiff lynn has come literally straight from set thank you for coming to my hometown of cardiff i detected the accent yes we're very musical people um you've just been in la though you were at the emmys i was at the emmys over the weekend went straight from the emmys to the airport. Got here last night. And then my next priority was immediately

talking to you about your dad's porn. I'm glad that we can fill that spot for you. You've got your life straight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got it worked out. Are you not much of a sleeper, though? Do you need much sleep? No, I do need sleep. That's the secret to the whole thing. Are you ever in a bad mood? Yeah, constantly. Do you get rancid? But I'm eating

a Jammie Dodger. I'm fine. I'm eating a Jammie Dodger in a random Airbnb. I'm on the jammy dodger. I'm eating a jammy dodger in a random Airbnb. I'm on the podcast I listen to. I'm in a very happy mood right now. Let's talk about pornography. Please. Let's just segue into that. You know, you're a bit of a super fan.

Yeah. Just because you've listened to pretty much every episode. Yeah. I'm intrigued to know how you feel Dad's writing has evolved from book one to book five. Because it has changed somewhat and certainly uh belinda's gone in different directions than we maybe initially would have thought um thoughts but she still blinks she's still the blinking belinda we know and love absolutely it is maybe the only writing i've ever like i can never predict the next sentence of

whatever our father is going to write. Thank you. I can never see it coming. I didn't mean to say coming. Oh God, it started. But who would have predicted the blue semen? I mean, that's the most wild thing I've ever heard read. And yet it's only sort of like the 11th most wild thing that has ever been written in a Rocky Flintstone book. I think the thing that has surprised me most is how often he keeps bringing back characters.

I mean, I did not think that was in his wheelhouse when this thing started. I mean, in the first chapter of this book, we don't even understand what's going on. We don't know how many people are in the room. For the most part. what's going on or who's in the room for the most part. And now he's bringing back, you know, the brother who's in the army and you're like, oh my, this is a fucking Tolstoy novel.

No, don't. He's going to use that. Well, listen, I write musicals and the importance of a reprise, that is one of the most important tools in our arsenal to bring back a reprise. And your father, as mad as it is, keeps bringing back these reprises and these characters in these really unexpected ways and it allows you to get to do your great arsenal of voices yeah they are weapons they are they really are yeah we were mourning bella but yeah well she's the world was not mourning Bella. The world was like

oh my god the voice is gone. Yeah there were parties in the streets and then nope she woke up with her massive meal and is still with us.

But you know I like doing that voice. Are you pro or anti Bella? What's your stance? Oh I'm pro Bella. Oh yes. Thank you Lynn.

Lynn it's been a pleasure. Did you have a jacket or any bags with you? What do you think of this kind of spy novel it's become? Do you you have a jacket or any bags with you what do you think of this kind of spy novel

it's become are you do you care about the plot now I mean I prefer it over the sales manual that it sometimes became

I do love when like leadership seminar practices sort of creep their way into the text still getting in there yeah

but then like but then she gets like so fatalistic all of a sudden she'll be like well the world's fucked, so you might as well fuck it. Or she says it where you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Belinda, it's so dark in there.

The pendulum swings, doesn't it? It's very much one way or the other. I mean, that's why the pro Bella fans like Bella. Like it or not, she's like... She's up. She's up, you know? She's an optimist. She's almost like a Disney character. She's so cheery. She's a coc... She's up. She's up. Yeah. You know? She is. She's an optimist. She's almost like a Disney character.

She's so cheery. She's a cockeyed optimist. She really is. But no, honestly, the way the prose is so surprising every week, and the way your father will take a turn of phrase and just change it a little so that it makes no fucking sense is really thrilling. I think it's a skill. Yeah.

I'm going to defend him for a second and be like, Dad, you got it going. I mean, the heaven sequence is just... Can we talk about the sequence? But why did you kill my friend Dick Van Dyke? No, because you know that guy. He's 93 and he's more alive than any of us. He was dancing on a desk, wasn't he? He danced on a desk in Harry Poppins Returns.

He's more alive than I'll ever be. I know. And he was waiting alone in a bus stop. I mean, it wasn't that he was dead. It was that he was in heaven alone. Alone, I know. Everyone else was just chatting. Remind me of some of the other combinations,

because it was really Mad Libs. We had a bassoon teacher, grade three bracket. Yeah, Mrs. Helmsford. With Nelson Mandela. Freddie Mercury was with Anne Boleyn. They were dancing, weren't they? They were the Charleston. Charleston Shuffleback.

It was just all the pairs that you expect, really. It was the most unexpected pairs. You know, there's a great Tupac verse called Thug's Mansion where he raps about like Sam Cook and Marvin Gaye. And like they make sense. It's a beautiful sort of nod to the incredible history of African-Americans and the arts and what they'd be doing in heaven. This was like the opposite of that verse. This was like the most random Mad Libs of characters and one living person. You see, the mistake you've made there

is you've almost compared Rocky to Tupac and that is going to be on his email signature, I'm afraid. We're on a ride, guys. Yeah, we are. We ask everybody

that has a kind of an acting pedigree to say who would be the role that would really be great to get their teeth into. That was a grimace for people.

An eye roll and a grimace at the same time yeah um is there somebody that you think do you know what they'd be a real challenge and kind of oscar bait or well i mean the oscar bait is obviously the duchess yeah i agree actually that has got best supporting actress written that is i mean any of your dames any of the great dames from your country yeah yeah would play that for all of the pathos and that it's worth this woman of means. I think we've got Dame Em for that. Dame Emma Thompson.

She's in. God, that would be. And those sex scenes in particular are really tough. They're tough. When she just left her on the gravel and just drove away from it, I was like, what are you doing to this poor woman? I'd quite like to see you taking on someone really evil, like a bish. Like a bish.

Yes. Oh, yeah. That'd be against type. I like that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. That's the other Oscar role, I think. Because all the prosthetics.

The wizard. You don't get really into that character. Yeah, that's the, like, very colourful supporting character that gets up for the nom. And his voice is very difficult. You know, my voice. It seems like supporting character that gets up for the nom. And his voice is very difficult. It seems like it is. Because my face physically changes. Let's see a bit, come on.

Oh, really? Oh, it's disgusting to watch, are you sure? Yeah, I'm here for the ride. Hello, my special one. Peter Lorre is sitting across the table from me. Lin-Manuel Miranda is here. In a way, whatever role you want, Jamie could be your voice coach.

I appreciate that. Or just your voice. Just dub it. That's fantastic. Just move your mouth. It'll be fine. Like Arnold in his early movies. His early American films. No, did you really?

Yeah, Hercules in New York. That's not his voice. Wow. And they do that with singing in films a lot. Like Sister Mary Roberts in Sister Act. It's not her voice. Don't say that. The ginger one.

Sister Mary fake. Seriously? Oh my God. My favorite line in Sister Act, Sister Mary fake. Boo. But you know what? I'm not opposed to that. Okay, great.

I would rather a great dubbed performance than like an auto-tuned, like we know that a computer made this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. This is so cheeky because you're like off duty and you know, this is basically asking

for free consultation advice. But we've talked a lot about the musical and it'd be remiss having the king of the musical here and not asking. Does Belinda Blink

the musical have legs? It has legs. It has a cervix. It has arms. Yeah, I mean, the log, have legs. It has legs. It has a cervix. It has arms. Yeah. I mean, the log line is very simple, right? In the New York Times, it's, you know, one woman sleeps and sings her way to the top of the pots and pans industry.

Great. Right? Like, I'm in. Like, I want to see that musical, like, done. Yes. It depends on the story. I mean, I don't even know. that musical like done.

Yes. It depends on the story. I mean, I don't even know. Just thinking about it, so many random people just had sex with. It's like, what do you focus on? What strand do you... There's too many. Yeah, I mean, this could be fucking Nicholas Nickleby

if we're not careful. It'll be eight hours long. We could do a Harry Potter, do it over two nights, maybe three nights, maybe four nights. A week at the theatre. Belinda and the Cursed Child. I i mean there's something pure about the storytelling of we are in the room i don't know with who belinda's interviewing for the job that is scene one yes scene one song one she's she'll do whatever it takes i mean that's almost the name of the first fucking song whatever it takes and that's the i want song right that's almost the name of the first fucking song. Whatever it takes. And that's the I Want song, right?

That's the sets her story out. Unless, I mean, usually in an opening number, you want to set the world. So do we set the pots and pans industry? It's a world of secrets. It's a world of pots and pans. Sex, lies, and Teflon faces? I don't know.

Yeah, and then she would sort of come in and she would have one of those dramatic entrances where her back is to the audience first and then she kind of turns to them

and then we get the entrance applause and oh yeah who's the musical theatre actress who plays Belinda I'll go to jail for even suggesting

anyone I actually have one Laura Benanti I think would be a good oh she's so good yeah she's really funny too yes

yeah she could have that like Alexander Hamilton moment just says her name. Pots and pans and pots and pans. And then the crowd parts and there's Belinda and it's like, clink. A blink. Oh, the blink. I mean,

what's the musical motif of the blink? We'll figure. These are the problems I deal with. We'll figure it out. You know, what's that? That's the Surat dot. Yes. In Sunday. What is the blinking I deal with. We'll figure it out. That's the Surat dot motif. Yes, in Sundae. So what is the blinking motif?

Okay. Right. What do you mean by that? What is the musical theme that accompanies a blink of surprise of the world is about to change? But there's also so many good visual things about it. The tumbola is a huge good number. The tumbola. Oh my God.

That's a huge. That's like everyone on stage right that's the act one closer that's big and then the duchess picks her

and then that's the end of act one oh very good meet the duchess end of act one I love it the wizard will see you now yeah that's great

plus we don't need too many sets because most of it's in the maze in book one right so we just need a big bush oh my god the maze I forgot all about

the maze so much has happened so much well it feels like we're talking about book one then I mean we're not big bush maze i forgot all about them so much has happened so much well it feels like we're talking about book one then i mean we're not we can't fit it all in there's just no way be honest when was the last time you thought about your current business insurance policy here's the thing if your business insurance coverage renews on autopilot each year without checking out zensurance.com you're probably spending more than you need that's why you need to switch to a low-cost policy from zensurance zensurance does all the heavy lifting

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have my perfect pencil and the perfect slant of yeah exactly so i mean i wrote the last quarter of hamilton in my in-laws laundry room because we were renovating an apartment and it wasn't ready yet so we had to move in with my in-laws and so i was literally writing over a laundry machine and you don't want that to become your process like I have to be in the laundry room get me back in the laundry room it's suffered since um so no I write often what I'll do is I'll write at the piano until I have just enough music to record and then I'll put it on a loop and then I'll walk around because I get my best lyrics when I'm walking or I'm running or I'm I have to kind of be ambulatory.

Okay. So if you're running, how do you record that thought? I stop. And voice note it? And kind of voice note it? Yeah, yeah, I'll voice note it or I'll have like a moleskin in my back pocket and I'll sort of write down whatever. Do you have voice notes on your phone right now?

Yeah. What have you got? I don't know. I don't know. Let's see. It might be a voice note. Sorry, sorry. Oh God, careful, careful. We nearly killed lin-manuel miranda he just

tripped on a wire oh no i'm terrified of what is going to come out of here this was uh Someone doing some washing up I literally I woke up having dreamt Some fictional Garfield song That never existed And I wanted to get it down before I like fully woke up And that was all I had All together now This is like morning breath

And I am getting breakfast oh no that's my son that's my son playing with shit in the background anyway that was like in my head when i woke up and i was like i gotta get it so is it sometimes a melody and sometimes lyrics or Yeah. So you would sometimes... I'll take it however it comes. So we need to get Rocky moving and maybe better stuff will come out if he just walks. Anything.

Well, he's renovating my house, so we can do that. But I love that he has a shed where he lives. I know. Well, that's mainly because mum won't let him write in the house. But yeah. Given what he's writing, I don't blame her. No, yeah. No, he's very excited about you coming on the show actually really he knows the hamilton music through me playing it to him so yeah he's a fan of yours which is nice that's

amazing i'm very honored well you're not really but um i am i truly am um i think he's quite excited about writing a musical but he just is trying to do it with already existing songs, like a kind of a jukebox thing. He wants to do a Belinda musical with existing songs? That's quite clever, actually. Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously. Has he pitched any of the songs he has in mind?

Should I see if I've got an email? What? Of course. Hang on. Bear with us. Then be careful what you ask for. Listen, he had me at Rizzoli and Isles I am so in for

whatever Rocky said no one ever no one ever you know the lady from Rizzoli okay I swear to god he once sent me his thoughts

on what the songs could be is it a particular artist like like is this like the Donna Summer musical it's Slapdash it's everyone

while you find it can i just listen to lynn's voice notes i just want to go back i can't believe i played you that i might use that someday and you'll have heard it first on the footnotes he's like heard this on radio too this morning on the graham norton show where he interviews the producers of the new musical chess not a new musical a chorus line well worth a listen if only for the references to broadway but this is the stuff we get on it from him on a daily basis he's just constantly it's like you it's just ideas all the time we can't move at the same speed oh my god i think i found it oh god yes the rocky flintstone belinda blinked jukebox musical so song one that he wants is called she was an upmarket girl to the music of i'm an uptown girl

by billy joel right again market girl he's added a syllable but she's been living in a pots and pans world yeah i got it great uh the next song he wants is i'm sorry for you don't know what that's in reference to um and then self pen that's about him uh and the next one's called it's the day after friday i don't know that song no these are these are just times it's the day after you don't know it yet yeah because i haven't written it yet um the next one is, where is the sex? To the music of Where is the Love? Where is the sex?

By Black Eyed Peas. By Black Eyed Peas? People shagging, people. People shagging, people fucking. The next one is, let your tits and clit do the talking. To the music of These Boots Are Made For Walking. Too many syllables, but so much. That's like drawing outside the crossword puzzle by six letters.

How do you even fit that in? One of these days, these tits and clits are going, oh, I'll call over. Then we've got A Yankee from the US of A To the music of YMCA Again, that's like 20 more syllables Than the four required For YMCA I say a Yankee

From the US of A Well, I mean, for the verse Sure We'll be kind Are we allowed to change the words? We'll soon find out Wait, read it again, what was it? A Yankee

A Yankee from the U.S. of A To the music of YMCA A Yankee from the U.S. of A Yeah, you can do that Oh, he's been a little U-turn That's an old LMM Yeah, I know, you can make it work Don't you be disbelieving

I'm seeing it at baseball games every seventh inning stretch i can see the future for we've already got the choreography for that one as well like the s might be a bit difficult but yeah so we've got the tombola went round and round to the music to the music can we guess the music yeah Yeah, okay, guess. Wheels on the Bus. The Wheels on the Bus! Correct! Oh my God, they'll never see this musical coming. We've got Just 69 Pages to Heaven. Oh wait, Just a Step from Heaven. Steps to Heaven.

What's Steps to Heaven? Not a thing. And it's got In the Foyer of the Cheap Hotel, and that's just in a ballad style. So we can make that our own right you've got quite a lot of creative freedom i'm getting a very strong avida another suitcase another hall vibe from that oh right in the foyer of a cheap hotel oh that's nice yeah that's nice like it so it's a mix of original and jukebox has that been done that's quite that's uh yeah that feels fresh and messy

if we can extend it over to five musicals we have that feels expensive and jarring um and then the last one he wants to do is you've come back to release me um similar to please release release me but changing just enough words to make it a pastiche so So I think that he's onto something. I think we should all get our heads in a room and come up with the next big musical. The origin story of this musical begins in Cardiff, Wales. Yeah. Yes, exactly.

We'll remember this day. We'll remember this day. For many years to come. That was great. Yeah. That was mad. He's thinking about these things, though, Lynn. Well, I just, you know,

any musical that kind of can bring together the Black Eyed Peas and the wheels on the just, you know, any musical that kind of can bring together the black eyed peas and the wheels on the bus go round and round has got the kind of tonal diversity that you're looking for in an evening of musical theatre.

That will fill every seat in the house with someone completely different. Something my five-year-old sings and Tom Jones. You got the kids, you got the grandmas. Yeah, exactly.

It's a four-quadrant musical, guys. The audience will have whiplash from the tonal shift Oh my god Oh wow I also want to talk to you Just briefly About your relationship With your dad

Sure Because I follow your dad On Twitter No because he's He's so cool And you seem to have A really nice Because you

Do you work together Yeah I guess so. Yeah, he's become, yeah, I work with him a lot, actually. He was my date to the Emmys, actually, over the weekend. It was really lovely. We were sitting next to Michelle Williams

and Busy Phillips, and Michelle won that night, and that was amazing. And my dad, you know, I produce Fosse Verdon, but my dad, I don't think, has watched Fosse Verdon. He just loves her

because she's in The Greatest Showman. Yeah, sure, sure. So my dad, I don't think, has watched Fosse-Furton. He just loves her because she's in The Greatest Showman. Yeah, sure, sure. So my dad's like, I want a picture with Michelle Williams. I was like, she's my friend. There are many times that we can get a picture. It doesn't have to be right now. She's up for an award. So I'm not going to do that now.

She's on stage. Every five seconds. Remember my picture with Michelle Williams. Remember my picture. And then she won. And it was amazing. She gave this incredible speech. to do that she's on stage every five seconds i remember my picture with michelle my picture and then like she won and it was amazing she gave this incredible speech and then like five seconds later my dad's like well i didn't get my picture i was like she won she's in the press it's not about your picture we'll see you later you know that he got the picture i know he tweeted

oh we got it oh yeah he got it we saw He tweeted the picture. That's all he wanted. Oh, he got it? Oh yeah, he got it. We saw her in the press room. Was he like, if you're not going to get it for me, I'm going to get it for me? No, no, no. I was with him. You facilitated.

But it was just like. Oh God. I joke sometimes that my success has gone to my father's head. So I wonder if the success of the podcast has. Is he walking around being like, I want to go to Flintstone. I mean, yes. Yes. It's safe to say that.

And now he's an executive producer on HBO. He demanded that in the contract. I was like, no, no. How have your siblings reacted to this? Oh my God, they love it. Yeah. Yeah, my sisters are great. I mean, we are the most eccentric family in the world,

so it wasn't really much of a surprise. but the fact that they've been so supportive of it you know it was my sister's wedding the other day right everyone there was just like oh my god i get to meet rocky flintstone in real life and it's just like i know you're at your friend's wedding that's more important than meeting rocky flintstone we haven't even talked about the father of the bride speech wait how long was it my god so it was long it was like you surprised God. So it was long. It was like... You surprised me. Yeah.

It was great. He kind of came in like a big duchess hat and a really striped jacket and just was oozing Bon Ami and just being classic dad. And then his speech, he just ad-libbed the whole thing and it was hysterical. Got his harmonica out, started playing Whiskey in the Jar. Wait a minute. Yeah, no, seriously. During the speech?

Yes, that was part of his speech. If in doubt, just break out a song. Have you got a picture of him in his wedding garb? Yeah, I do, actually. Oh, my God. This is exclusive for your eyes only. Yeah, great. Here we all are, the Flintstone family.

Can you spot which one might be... Wow! There he is in the flesh! Yeah, that's the man. Is. Can you spot which one might be? There he is in the flesh. Yeah, that's the man. Is he what you expected? I don't know what I expected. Hold on a second. Let me sit with this for a minute.

Well, everyone looks gorgeous. Lynn, we have to kill you now. Yeah, I've seen Rocket Flintstone. I'll give away the cookware sequence. Oh my God, he is dressed as the Duchess. What's weird is he dresses like Dick Van Dyke in his barbershop.

He does? Is it a professional jealousy that he killed him off? I think so. Because you know, Dick Van Dyke still has a barbershop quartet and he like sings at functions.

No. Oh, fully. Oh. How do we not know that guy? Yeah. Come on. Well, he's available for hire. I don't know how available

for hire is, but he's got a barbershop quartet he like sings for functions. I love that. Yeah. Yeah, guys? Come on. Well, he's available for hire. I don't know how available for hire he is, but he's got a barbershop quartet. He sings for flagship. I love that. Yeah. Yeah, Dan Steele. I told you, he's more alive than any of us. That's why I was so upset to find him in heaven in chapter one.

Now, Belinda's a busy woman. You're a busy man. What have you got going on at the moment? It seems like you've got a million projects all at once. No, not really. Yes, you have. Well, but it's it's staggered uh i'll finish filming this week uh for his dark materials and then i'm uh producing uh this hip-hop improv show that we've been doing for like 15 years like my first time in the uk was actually the edinburgh fringe festival with these guys like in 2005

um and it's freestyle love freestyle love supreme and so it's this hip-hop show we make up the in the UK was actually the Edinburgh Fringe Festival with these guys in 2005 Freestyle Love Supreme Freestyle Love Supreme and so it's this hip hop show we make up the entire show on the spot and so we're doing that on Broadway for 16 weeks and so we open the week

after I get back and so we'll do that through the end of the year Are you in that? Yeah I'll do it a couple of times a week we have so many people in the group now

we're like Wu-Tang so like we kind of have to sort of tag in and tag out but i'm gonna do a couple of times a week and then i'm directing my first movie i'm directing a movie musical uh so at the top of next year i'm directing this uh musical version this uh movie version of tick tick boom and you're uh you're writing new songs for the little mermaid yeah aren't you yeah how's that with alan menken yeah i'm writing lyrics for Alan Menken. How's that going? It's going really well, actually.

Yeah, we finished the first draft of a tune today. Really? Yeah. And basically, any time I have a break in the filming, I kind of go off into a corner and work on this. Wow, what a day. Dark Materials, Little Mermaid, pornography. That's quite the day for you, Lin.

Yeah, it's been a day. And are you writing a number of, like, have they said we need two songs, or is it just kind of however many you? We're writing, we've written, we've written three new songs so far. We haven't touched any of the songs that exist. Are they going to be in there?

Yeah, yeah. The songs you love are in the movie. And then we've just kind of circled a couple of moments for some new musical moments. And was Moana the first thing that got you into the Disney kind of? Yeah, that was pre-Hamilton that was i was yeah i was up for that job with every other musical theater composer and i kind of but it was the directors of little mermaid it was ron and john

who directed the animated little mermaid and so i really lobbied hard for it and got it and it was um it was really fun but i was writing that while i was still doing ham. Like all of my demos of those songs are Pippa and Chris Jackson because they were in the dressing rooms next to me. I was like, come in here and sing this. So I have like Pippa doing Moana before anybody else did. And it also kind of kept me sane during the Hamilton craziness because there was so much buzz and hype around it. And I kind of couldn't go to any parties.

And I was doing seven shows a week. And I was like, I have to write a and I was doing seven shows a week and I was and I was like I have I have to write a song about this young woman who saves the world I have to write a song for the rock did you feel like you could enjoy the whole Hamilton experience oh yeah you did yeah I feel like I enjoyed it but I also was able to sort of you know doing seven shows a week just keeps you humble because you can't go out and you can't party. Like you're like, Oh, I have two shows tomorrow.

So it was good. And I also had a newborn child. I was going to say, yeah, you had your whole family thing was changing. Yeah. It was, it was the best way to do it.

I, my feet were very much on the ground the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. Unlike my dad. He has nothing grounding him. We have a little special invite for you. Not many people,

I mean, people say don't meet their heroes, but we wondered if you wanted to meet your hero, who is Rocky Flintstone, of course, when we come to New York. Oh my God, yes. Next year, if you want to come to the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to be there, Radio City Musical. He's going to be there. Yes, I'm there.

It's a date. I'm in. I'm going to wear the exact same suit you wore to the wedding. Yes. I'm going to come in my Rocky Flintstone cosplay since I know what he looks like now we actually have a present for you I think it's behind

you Alice my dad wrote a porno book oh wonderful it's signed by Rocky oh my lanta Lynn I'm sorry this inscription's insane Lynn

it's an honour to know you're a pervert love and pomegranates Rocky this is a very flowery signature oh yeah it's really like

this is some you see his flamboyance in that signature it's so big as well so the rest of us are like trying to fit in the space around him we're like

okay dad thanks oh my god I love it. Thank you so much. Oh, no, you're welcome. Thank you so much for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. Thank you for coming all this way. I really appreciate it.

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