My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - 202 - Live at the Sony Centre in Toronto (Night Two)

Episode Date: December 26, 2019

Karen and Georgia cover the Ant Hill Cult and the murder of Renee Sweeney.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Okay, great. Go first. Okay. Here we go. Thanks. Oh, I'd actually like to start off with a quick book report. This is, this is my report on the province of Ontario, Canada. In the past, there have been times where I showed that I didn't know that much about

the province of Ontario, Canada, or maybe nothing at all. But I've worked to change that and I want to show that to you right now. The Canadian province of Ontario is one of Canada's 13 provinces and territories. It is the second largest province in land area and the largest in total population. Ontario is home to the nation's capital city, Ottawa and the nation's represent and the nation's most populous city, Toronto. Which is also Ontario's provincial capital. The name Ontario is derived from the, from the Iroquois word meaning beautiful water.

Ontario was settled by the Algonquian tribes in the north and west. Yeah. And the Iroquois, Iroquois and Waiando Huron in the south and east. The official language of Ontario is English. Ontario, the Canadian province is not to be confused with the California city of Ontario. Which was named after the Canadian province, Ontario. Which is definitely where I am right now. I know that for a fact.

That I do know. The official flower of Ontario is white trillium. The official bird is the common loon. And the official website is www.ontario.ca. Yeah. Please, please accept my apology Canadian province of Ontario. I am so sorry. Oh, a little dig at the end.

Just to show them. Just to show them. If we do this for every city a week, do shows on, we'll, we're going to get so much better in like 22 years. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah. It'll also be half the shows are apologizing to the place we're in.

Or just words. The word attic has two T's and ends in a C. And I'm still mad about it. It doesn't make sense. It's truly stupid. I am going to go outside of the province of Ontario Canada tonight. So I can tell you all about the ant hill kids cult. Really?

Okay. You guys aren't in the cult as much as we are. Well, you must be because this is fucked up. So let's see. I got a lot of this information from, of course, our best friend Wikipedia. And then, and then our secret lover, murderpedia, which is, we talk a lot about donating to Wikipedia. Murderpedia is the shit.

I'm sure you all know this already, but you could also donate to that if you feel like it or have extra money. Who among us? There's a Netflix movie called Savage Messiah about this. And there's a YouTube crime documentary called The Rock Terrio. It's called The Rock Terrio. That must be wrong. Anyhow.

But the reason I'm doing it is because I actually prepped it to do another time. And maybe when we were in Montréal one time. And thank you. Thank you. I made it all the way to French too in high school. Really rocked that accent. But it's so awful that I was like, I can't do it. It's awful.

And then last night, a girl named Jen with two ends gave me a book. Oh, that's why you were like, I need a book. Yes. I like snatched it. I was just like, I thought you would. And I was like, give it to me right now. It's a book called The Cult Files by Chris Michael, M-I-K-U-L. And this book is written for me.

So it's like say 12 chapters, but the print is really big. Each cult has like five pages or six pages dedicated to it. So you can like get in and out real fast. Again, nobody gets hurt. Everyone gets hurt. Yeah, everyone gets hurt actually. In this book, you can't make it in unless a bunch of people get terribly fucking hurt. Kind of the nature of cults.

But it actually, it's just like the second I stopped reading about this one, it's, I turn the page and then it's like the, you know, it was like people in the jungle or whatever. And then it was fucking Jonestown. We were just onto the next one. It was awesome. So get that book if you also have reading ADD like I do. And thank you, Jen, for giving me a book.

All right. So the anthill kids cult was started by a man named Rock Terrio. Let's just take a look. Do we? Oh, no. Oh, no. Yes. He's got the piercing blue eyes of a psychopath.

Yeah. He's got the mustache comb over. I mean, truly it's like, it's like blinds over his lips. What if most of that beard is actually mustache? Cause he has beard. Just, I'm saying entertain it. He has beard baldness and he's like, I gotta make up for my lack of beard. And when he, when he wants to eat, he has to use like butterfly clips to clip it back.

The two clips I had in my hair. Almost came out it. That's right. He just clips them back. All right. Good. I bet that beard smells. That's all I can ever think of when I see a dude with a big beard.

Yeah. I bet it smells. Also, it's like, there's, it's almost like a mullet situation, but it's party in the front and party in the back. It's just party. Party, party, party. Huge party. No party on top.

It happens. Yeah. Okay. So this is our friend, Rockterio. It is not spelled like that at all. It's fucking. Oh, I see. Okay.

Oh, I get it. Yeah. Okay. Right. ROCH. And that's rock. I had to write it phonetically for myself. I literally on every page it says rock like a rock.

Terry dash O like SpaghettiOs. Wow. Yeah. Because every time I'm like, Tharolo? I thought. Tharolao? I thought you were trying to say something like Rocktober. Oh, Rocktober long.

Like on a radio station. Rock. You know. You're just confused. Totally confused. Just letting me. And I didn't look slightly to the right of his face. Right.

Because that mustache is hypnotic. Look at it. It's also just slight, a shade lighter than the beard. Uh-huh. It's because it's in the sun. It's like, he just suns it. He suns himself. He puts the reflective thing underneath it.

Right. And then puts copper, copper tone five on top. The lemon juice. No. In there. So it'll sun in. Yep. And then he, and then he does just a light highlights.

Little. Fleet strips. Some chunky. It's. Okay. He did an ombre when that was in. He takes care of his shit. That's what we're saying.

Try it guys. Guys. Rock. Terrio. Rocktober is the best month of the year. We're going to be playing the rock jazz. All night long. Okay.

Stop it. Karen. Quit it, Georgia. He quit it. He was born on May 16th, 1947 in Saguenay, Quebec. Saguenay. Saginaw. No, it's not fucking Saginaw.

Fucking some American up here. Translating incorrectly. Leading us down the primrose path. Of course she's fucking Canada explaining to you. Yes. How dare you French explain anything to me. We're going to call it the segue Quebec. Because of what you've done.

From age six. He is raised in a town called Thatford Mines, which you'll like this was built over the world's largest deposit of asbestos. Your favorite. I love asbestos. It is the funniest thing that I'm not. Okay. Truly.

I just wonder, first of all, I feel like this whole story could go in a totally different direction. If a town is built over the largest natural deposit of asbestos, everyone goes asbestos crazy. You've got a horror movie right there. Totally. Like, why do I have to do all the fucking work? Anyhow.

But that's not, it does, this is definitely turning into a horror movie, but it's not asbestos related. Okay. We're going to write that one. And please make several notes on the back of your Degrassi sweatshirt. You know what's so funny? What's weird to me is because I always feel so old when like, when the youngsters talk about the things that they love, and I'm always like, I've never heard of that and I don't

care. It's usually my, I don't say it out loud. That's my internal. You actually do. You don't know that you say it out loud. Oh shit. Yeah. You kind of, you kind of mutter it to yourself.

Can you give a hand signal? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just let me know. Sorry. I'll let you know. Who cares?

But we, when I was in high school, that was the thing me and my friend, Lisa Lanyon, loved to do was walk home to her house because she lived near the high school. And then we would, sorry, I just had a side memory to this memory where she and I after high school went and had dinner with her dad and his new wife after her mom died. So it was a very sad, it was very sad. And then immediately her dad got remarried and no one knew what to do or no, sorry, started dating. So this woman was his girlfriend.

He did get remarried very soon, but he started dating like very quickly after her mom died. And we were all just kind of like, what? This is weird. So she called me and was like, you have to come over because my dad's girlfriend is coming over for dinner and I don't know what to do. So I was like, I'll be there. Don't worry about it. Well, we are offered wine at the top of the evening.

And I'm like, it is on. We get so fucking drunk at this dinner. I mean, like if there was video, I wouldn't be able to watch it because it was insane. Look, it was kids wine. We were coping. Well, we were like 18, 19 maybe, you know, we were all just trying to get through a bad time. Sure.

It wasn't even my bad time, but I was like, we're going to get through this, everybody, give me more wine. By the time dinner's over, her dad has made everybody the dessert Bananas Foster. And we go in to help him serve it to his new girlfriend and her son. I just remembered he was there and Bananas Foster, whatever this dessert he was making was like this fancy glass with like ice cream and bananas. And then he poured some liquor on it. And as he is pouring the liquor, I yell, less bananas, more Foster.

And then we said that to each other for 15 years. That confusing anecdote that must make no sense to you right now is because Lisa and I would go home every day after school and watch Degrassi Junior High like it would. When Spike got pregnant, oh my fucking god, I love her. We had all these choices and it was like we picked something. We were just like, we don't even really care about, it wasn't like we loved it. It was like we were, like we had to do it. And then after a while, we became addicted where it was like our soap opera and we would

talk about it all the time. But in the beginning, we'd just be like, what the fuck is this? Who are these people? And then after a while, it's all we did. It's a good show. Two terrible stories, my guarantee to you. Terrible stories all night long. Okay.

Thank you. I hate that. Okay. So Rock's parents are named Hyacinth, that's the dad. And Pierrette, that's the mom, they're devout Catholics and so of course he has seven brothers and sisters because that's how Catholics do it. He's a very intelligent child, drops out of school in the seventh grade, which is kind of common like none of his brothers or sisters had educations past junior high.

Where is there to know? I mean, once you get out of junior high, what more do you need to know? You're done. You're not once memorized or leaders, you're leaders. You know the landmass of Ontario, you're done. He begins to teach himself and despite the rest of his family who only speaks French, he learns English. He seems like a real asshole.

Yeah, what a showoff. But he also begins to read the Old Testament and he gets super into it because he loves all the apocalyptic end of the world shit that's in the Old Testament. Pretty fucking cool. Right? Like most tweens, he loves the idea of the end of the world. Okay. So his father is an ultra conservative Catholic who belongs to a group called the White Berets.

Anyone here tonight from the White Berets? We love your hats. He made rock and his brothers and sisters march around town with him, military style through their neighborhood, knocking on doors, asking for donations for the group and passing out pamphlets for them. And he was so humiliated by that and he hated being bossed around like that so much that he hated Catholicism, like it infuriated, the whole thing infuriated him. And also, of course, other kids made fun of him for having to wear a white beret, which

is so embarrassing. Not the theater kids. They supported him entirely, but the other, the jocks were mean. So this was basically a breaking point for him. So he would later on tell stories of horrible abuse at the hands of his father, saying his father was an alcoholic and that he was so vicious and abusive to him that he would have to run into the nearby forest and while he was there, he met and frolicked with bears. Canadian bears are nice.

Canadian bears are so polite, they're constantly apologizing. They have the best Kit Kats. He also told people later on that he was paralyzed from age six to eight, that when he was seven, he had a vision where he was playing St. Joseph in a theatrical production, and then later he did play St. Joseph in a theatrical production. That's just like a wish and a hope and then you follow through with it. Yeah, that's called the secret, actually. It's not your cult, dude.

That's an Australian ladies cult, but he claimed that that meant that he was psychic and that he understood medicine. Oh, no, wait, sorry. That's another claim. That's not connected. Okay, didn't make any sense, so I was like, let's make a sense of this. St. Joseph loves doctors, maybe. He thinks he understands medicine, he believes he has the ability and tells people he has

the ability to mend arms and legs. Oh, broken arms and legs, they have to be broken, they can't just be gross, okay. All of this, of course, are lies, lies, lies. He has a very standard childhood and friends, family, neighbors say they never saw Hyacinth Theriot raise his voice, abuse his kids, that that just simply wasn't the case. But the father did admit later to having to discipline Rock because he was, quote, a manipulative and incorrigible liar who refused to accept responsibility for his actions. So like whenever he was caught drinking or smoking or doing anything, he would just

argue and then blame one of his siblings, nothing was ever his fault. And so there's all these stories of manipulative and cow's behavior. And many psychologists believe that he, from a young age, suffered from a narcissistic personality disorder. Fun. Right? All that in a white beret, pictured in your mind. Oh, what a little shit, I'm thinking of Rushmore now, the movie Rushmore, seeing him, ugh.

If the kid from Rushmore had just a terrible beard, oh, we can turn that off. Can we? No wonder you're so upset. Okay. And also, they say that the myth making lies are a way to, like he was trying to prove his superiority over others, over regular people, which is common, a common tactic among cult leaders. So, but the thing is, he was really charismatic and charming and, um, red flag, always, always.

If you like someone, you're wrong. He would go to dance halls around town, around Asbestos town and drink and pick up women. That was like his jam. He was very charming and persuasive. And he believed that his blue eyes, intelligence and large penis meant that everyone wanted to listen to him talk all the time. I mean, you don't even have to talk anymore. Yeah, that's the thing.

How about you zip it? Um, he, he basically was an attention whore and it didn't, he didn't care. He was just like out there to hold thwarth and be like, what's up and then get laid. So, when he's 20, he basically gets himself the prettiest girl at the dance hall. It's his 17 year old named Francine Grenier and in 1967, he marries her. They have two children and, um, he's a really talented woodworker, so he makes them a house out of pine. Um, so he's not so bad.

Um, pine trees hate him though. Yeah. Not to pine trees. That forest, those bears that now have no trees to rub their back against. We were your friends. We gave you KitKats. What the fuck, bro? Yes, we coveted with you.

Page three. He gets a job, even though he's a talented woodworker, he gets a job as a chimney inspector because that's his passion. Okay. Um, okay. But here's another turning point. In 1970, he gets, he has an operation because he has really bad duodenal ulcers. Don't ask me.

Okay. And he has to have a large part of his stomach and some intestine to remove. Oh, fuck that. Right? I don't know. I wouldn't mind it. There's a little weight. Yeah.

And just, no. Suddenly salads are really satisfying. Never. So this is when a family and friends say his personality changed. So he's in constant pain. Okay. He also can't digest food very well. So he begins like binge drinking.

I can't blame him. So he obsesses on his health. He starts reading medical textbooks that might be connected to his, I can fix arms and legs from childhood. So like, he was basically being a Google doctor back then. Yes. He was like, what was wrong with me? So he is a visionary. Yeah.

In a lot of ways. But here's, he reads medical textbooks. Then he starts telling everybody he has cancer. And that's like a weird way he gets attention from people too. Which is, talk about a fucking dark blood red flag. Yeah. Like people lying about shit like that. Oh my God.

Which is like, no, go back to the forest. So, oh, and he also, so he stops paying attention to his wife and kids. His narcissistic tendencies are off the charts. He loses his job as a chimney inspector. Oh. And, no. That was the final blow. They're like, get off that roof.

You're done. Get your head out of that chimney. Stop looking at it. No. No. Look away. Then he starts telling people that his insides are made of plastic. That's a bit of a jump.

They're like, we were totally on board with your cancer. Yeah. But that was fine. Wait a minute. How does plastic get cancer? It only gives it. Okay. So.

Then phase two, he becomes obsessed with sex. More so. So he had once been very controlling with his wife and saying you have to wear long skirts and be very dress very low key, cover yourself up. Now he insists that she wear short skirts and tight clothes and show herself off. And she's like, bitch, get a job. How about you don't worry about my skirt? She didn't say that.

Actually, the family went on welfare and she actually got a job as a waitress and was the only form of income for their family. And because, of course, he's drinking all the time, and then he starts making wooden beer mugs. Okay. Imagine it. I'm thinking it. Bring it to your lips.

Nope. Pull it away fast. Oh, I have splinter mouth. That's what they call it. No, I have an idea. I'm going to do the thing no one's ever done before really good reason. Go ahead and make a wooden cups, wooden, wooden lip, lip cups, lip specific cups. They are a little bit popular in Quebec city.

Not enough to make a living, but enough, right? You guys, you love wooden cups and shit. You just love splinters. So he says he has to go out and sell these cups all the time, but of course he's cheating on his wife. He's down at the dance hall. He's doing that shit that he loves to do so much. Hold forth.

Have a big dick. What not? So in 1975, somehow amidst all of this, he gets a seat on the city council. Because of course, when you're super narcissist psycho, you want to get into politics. We all know that. And like, I think every politician, there's charming fucking people. Narcissists. Narcissists.

Well, at least in our country. We're not going to get into this right now. But fuck Trump. Okay. I mean, truly. I mean, seriously. Truly. I should have said that at the beginning.

I mean, seriously, truly, I should have said that at the beginning, too He runs for city gets a seat on the city council at first. They think he's really smart He's memorized the municipal code book, which I'm sure no one else did so he's like Asked me about page 63. He sounds so annoying so boring So he's informed genuinely concerned about the town's issues, but over time, of course They see he's out of his mind and because he goes on these long rants and temper tantrums that make the city council meetings Go on for hours And they're all insanely relieved when he stops showing up for the meetings in 1976

They're just like is the beard here? So Francine his wife is of course just so sick of his shit and then the The final straw is when rock asks his in-laws if they wouldn't mind if he set up a nudist colony colony on the land That they have and how Francine's like and we're done The body so she leaves him But rock yeah, but he still manages to stay popular around town and in 1976 He meets a girl at a dance hall named Giselle Tremblay

He charms her with his sad story saying a he's dying of cancer and be his wife is cheating on him Oh, so just hot hot hot like oh my god. Are you a pickup artist with these lines? Cancer you say hold on She loves it She quits her job and they start traveling around selling wooden mugs Oh, how quickly was she like oh shit? She's in that van like what's that smell? Oh, it's the beard photo No, I just figure he must that guy had a van. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's no way Right. He actually if your beard grew this long in 1976 they gave you a van

His drinking gets worse because of his plastic stomach pain He and then he becomes interested He starts reading up on the occult and he joins a Catholic affiliated society called the Aramis Club But then he he becomes ahead of their initiation committee But when he suggests they wear capes with a picture of Satan on them everybody freaks out Do they freak out where they so they say there's no picture of Satan there's no way we can put that on We don't know what he looks like and he pulls out a can of deviled ham and goes. Uh-huh. There. He is right there Oh my god, he points out a child at Halloween

Oh Wait, is it true that up here? Oh, you might not know because this I heard this happens in Winnipeg that in Winnipeg Okay, represent in Winnipeg at Halloween little kids though instead of saying trick-or-treat they go Halloween apples. No No Do you not want them to are you saying that? No, they would never in their lives. We're getting a I'm getting I don't really care 18 rows back I can see why I'm God's name would I ask this question Who thinks yes, and who thinks no?

Okay Halloween apples That was just someone pulling my leg my Canadian leg. All right. They really got you. They really got me good in Winnipeg I've been humiliated in Toronto about Winnipeg Okay, so this is another great turn in 1977 The the seventh day Adventists come to town and they're recruiting very heavily and he decides He's gonna convert from Catholicism to seventh day Adventistism, so What he likes is they they're they have very strong

Holistic beliefs that basically like what you put into your body like it's all about health and wellness So he becomes a vegetarian And he stops drinking. He stops eating processed food. He stops smoking And he also of course is interested in their doomsday beliefs because it essentially is has some similar Thinking to a doomsday cult, so that's how it was initially established All I know now is that they get Saturdays off, which I think is unfair because When I worked at the gap there was a guy was like, oh, sorry. I can't work this week And I'm seventh-day Adventist and I was like fucking me too then

So he loves the doomsday element his childhood passion he gets baptized Stopped smoking and drinking and it becomes a seven-day Adventist like top recruiter So this is a thing they did in the 70s a seventh-day Adventist would open Five days stop smoking clinics. Oh, and that's they would get people in who just wanted to stop smoking But then they'd be like, have you heard the good word about the end of the world? Like what's that? We have good and then you're like, oh, I'm just gonna fucking smoke that. Yeah, exactly Well, why would I quit smoking? Yeah They're like, do you also do you have any heroin? Yeah, that's what do we do?

Thank God we have a little butron now to quit smoking. Yeah, so he in in running these clinics He's really good at it. And then he realizes it's really easy for him to convert people to his way of thinking And he's like, I'm not gonna really gonna help people stop smoking. I want my own church And that's where he gets the idea to get his own followers So he invites a small group of fellow Adventists to come to his girlfriend Chazelle's apartment And he preaches to them for hours on end. It's so great. Um, just telling them the municipal code Oh wait, wrong one wrong run. He's checking all his big books that he loves to read Um, this is from Psalms. You may not cross the sidewalk on Sunday. Is that a municipal code?

Saturday is a burn day and you're all gonna burn in hell It's a municipal apocalypse right there Okay, for some reason no one leaves the apartment Could you imagine getting invited over for like a seventh day Adventist hang and then suddenly that guy has the floor for five Hours he'd just be like, it's too awkward to like get up and leave. Yeah, stay for the whole thing Is you trapped you're like won't he won't break eye contact with you Giselle, do you have any water or any cheese crets a cheese plate? Help me okay

But they're into it obviously in 1978 He decides to open the healthy living clinic where he sells Adventist literature and health foods at huge markups So they basically all kind of go there and work there. He convinces a woman So this is basically the end of his stay in the seventh day Adventist Church because while he has this clinic He convinces a woman with leukemia that he can cure her with his holistic methods and a few weeks later She dies and the seventh day Adventist Church is like you can get the fuck out right now Yeah they know so

That's actually okay with him because he wants to start his own church. So He convinces a small group of followers. It's 12 women six men two children that the end of the world is gonna come on February 17th 1979 So they spoiler alert spoiler Smoker spoiler, so they should sell their belongings sever ties with their families and move to the forest A hundred kilometers northeast of Toronto fucking bears again, right? He's drawn to the bears So the group is based on obviously religious themes women's obedience to men

Polygamy harsh punishments the righteousness of the leader the sinfulness of the followers and living miracles So everyone's kind of like let's yeah, let's do this the world's ending. Let's move to the forest And not smoke and eat vegetables my fucking nightmare Please never make me So they go out there and he sits in a chair starts drinking again Just drinks all day and watches them build him a huge octagonal cabin Oh, and that's where he comes up with the name the ant hill kids

For the group because he's watching them work and they work really fast and they're doing it really well So and he's sitting back doing nothing meanwhile. He's secretly given up his holistic lifestyle. He's no longer a vegetarian He's just eating junk food all the time Right, yeah So some people leave the group the ones who stay he renames them with biblical names. He renames himself Moses of course Um And he then declares which is always like the huge sign that you're in a cult that he shall have

multiple wives right That when the polygamy kicks in, you know that like your Bible study group has gone awry Keep your eye peeled up until then praise fucking Jesus the second. It's like I need three wives Go to a different. There's so many other Bible studies that you can go to Oh Okay So oh and then he makes every woman in the group his concubine and

Yes, so this the storyline of this is like any cult and it's of totally insane His drinking his obviously mental illness and pretty serious mental illness Everything escalates. He has total power And he corrupts him entirely So nobody has any money when they were building that When they were building that cabin for him, he was doling out the food So they were all like starving while he's that they're secretly snacking away And that's kind of how it went so like he they sold baked goods in town to make money

He took and kept all the money and if they didn't sell enough baked goods He would beat people with a hammer Oh my god, it's the the abuse and the violence in this story Like it's disgusting and there's parts like you can go read it yourself But I I'm not gonna read it out loud because there's things in it It's kind of like looking at the like crime scene photos or like I just don't want to know I I get and give him the benefit of the doubt that keys a total piece of shit. I'll tell you some stuff It's very upsetting, but you can go into the details. I left out

Paragraphs and paragraphs and there every single word I read I was like, oh no, what no like it's fuck Like here's just an example and this is like one of the lighter things I read a woman took two pancakes instead of one So he punched her twice in the face Jesus and then later when she suggested to her husband that she wanted to leave the group He found out about it and told her husband. You have to cut off one of her toes And the husband was like, yeah, I don't think I was I'm going to do that and He started screaming at the guy saying you need to What do you say? Don't you have any balls if you want to be a man

You have to learn how to teach your woman a lesson and so then the man cut off his wife's toe Was really hoping they would leave no from there we go like this from there. That's up here and then we go like that So Google what you will but leave me out of it So he says and the thinking is this is all of this abuse and the stuff he makes people stand in the cold for hours He whips them he ties people to trees. He does it to fucking kids. The child abuse is horrifying It's awful and he says it's all meant to purify the cult members of their sins So that they'll be saved when that end of the world comes which is pretty soon just hold on a little while longer He even begins administering regular purifying sessions where he stripped them nude

He would whip them sometimes. He'd just make them lay down and pee on them. Yeah But they're in it. I mean they're completely brainwashed at this point and they're totally isolated starving It's all the it's all the cult things like he he really nailed it in that way It's a brain that washed all of them. So When that date comes and goes of the end of the world February 17th, I believe it was 1979 Nothing happens. I just in case you didn't know nothing happened and so he says he miscalculated He's gonna go back rework the numbers. That's not always been my thing. Come on. Only went to school till seventh grade help me out I

Mourned of medical textbooks and the municipal code asked me anything So that's then more he senses that the followers faith might be wavering So then his big fix he marries all the women that are concubines. They actually he marries them and then Gets all of them pregnant. So he ends up fathering like 20 children. Holy shit. How many people are we talking about at this point at this? I it is like around 20 adults, okay? Roughly Or I guess over that probably between 20 and 25. Okay, sorry. There are nearly 40 members One set I was one sentence away from seeming like I knew what I was talking about I should you know, it's okay. It's

By this time There are nearly 40 members living and working on the common Okay So here's the end of this first commune Oh, no, it's bad. It's terrible. It's horrifying. He decides he wants to circumcise a two-year-old child and in doing so the child dies and Then he says I didn't do it that guy did it and blames it on another follower

And then he says to the group well since he did this and he needs to be punished who votes that I castrate him Oh my god, and they all vote. Yes. No And they fucking do it. He does it. He does it himself That guy gets away and fucking gets to the cops. Okay, good so the cops raid the commune he gets arrested and a bunch of them get arrested the top I think it's like the top three people and Rock spends two years in jail two years for that

Because the other problem is all the abuse that it's not when when they come and see everybody Obviously, they're all you know, they're they're very thin They don't look good, but there's not like bruises. It's not overt the abuse is not overt and they're they're voluntarily And it's they've made themselves a church So they can't like the authorities can't touch them right if all those people are there and want to be there so He goes to jail for two years Still talks to the people who are still in it like he's still in contact

He sets up The group is down to eight wives Ten children and then three other I guess two men and a woman and a woman who somehow made it so that she didn't have to marry him But they when he gets out of jail they make another commune a second commune at Burnt River and That's when the abuses escalate. So it gets fucking worse than the things I've already said He goes on three-day drinking vinges This woman

Oh, he he's People he's breaking people's legs with sledgehammers. He's he's making people shoot each other Like punish each other. It's it's complete fucking insanity. That's insane The local Children's Aid Society starts looking into them because they heard about the first commune and so they're keeping an eye on them but when they go to talk to the women the women will not talk to them the children there's nothing over there's nothing they can do but they're like There's something really wrong out there So in 1989 Yeah, it goes on this line. Yeah after enduring extreme abuse

Including being burnt with a welding torch and having eight of her teeth pulled out One of the followers that's nothing. I wish you could fucking see the things I've read a follower named Gabrielle Lavalie escapes from the commune and She gets fucking caught and brought back And he cuts off her arm Yes Now he had he had already there was a woman who complained of stomach issues

Issues that he said I know how to do surgery and he attempted surgery on her and she died So that's when Gabrielle was just like I this is crazy I have to get out of this and then basically that happened to her So she heals up and then is like I'm gonna do it again And she escapes again and this time she gets to a hospital and she tells the people at the hospital Yes, she tells the people the hospital. I was in a car accident. And of course everyone's like and uh-uh Because it yeah, so The cops go straight to the camp and they basically raid it and take everybody

But he's not there I just wanted you to clap a little bit like a getcha He's not there He's gone into hiding it takes the police six weeks to find him. Oh, but they finally do So after 12 years Of having this bizarre and extremely violent and insane hold over the anthill kids cult Rock terrio is arrested. He receives 12 years for the assault of Gabrielle They they can't prove they don't know anything about the murder of salon jet

Um, they the gang the cult dissolves Except for three of the concubines who when they go and visit him and have conjugal visits in jail Oh, they're four more children Bringing the total to over 30 children that he fathered I bet someone's related in here At least one person has to be well, then we want to hear your hometown. They might not even know Yeah, they just don't know I don't even know when the police invest so basically Gabrielle tells them about so long just murder and how horrifying that was. Oh

Sorry This is like what in the bakery days when everything was okay. You have that sweater. I swear to fucking god. You really? Yes Wow, but then This is when they're out they've gone out into the wilderness leave the goats out of it. Yeah Fuck sake the goats like can I talk to you? You're fucking crazy That's the concubines that's when they got married. Oh Look at them. They're so I just fucking have that dress. I'm sorry. This is inappropriate. No, no Here's here's the good part

So they investigate the murder of Solange Boyard. They charge him with second-degree murder He pleads guilty and he sentenced to life in prison in the year 2000 And then on February 26 2011 rock cellmate 63-year-old Matthew McDonald walks to the guard station hands them a shiv and says That piece of shit is down on the range. Here's the knife. I've sliced him up a Poet his fucking cellmate just stabbed him to death one day. Oh, fuck you buddy

Yeah He was already in jail for a murder charge, so we shouldn't really be cheering for right This is when everyone's confused who didn't this is they don't know this is how we start a cult. We're like, yes But basically he was like, this is the worst person ever and I'm already in here. I'm staying in here for life Yeah, that's double up. Let's double up. He's going down on the range Yeah, and that's the hideous and upsetting story of the ant hill Kids oh, sorry third everywhere Wow

Terrible Another one of those many fucking things that you're like, how did I not hear about this? Yeah, it's I think because it's so It's just that thing of unchecked power like it's just so extreme Yeah, and he just could do anything he wanted and then he fucking did and then people believe in him, right? That's the crazy part stop it Stop it Okay guys

This is the No longer cold case of Renee Sweeney This some crazy shit, this is my okay, here we go Sudbury Pretty great It's a city in Ontario, Canada And then over here here

So a lot of this information at 2 o'clock today decided I realized that the murder that I had been working on was Took place 33 hours away from here. Oh, and I was like they're gonna be mad at me I'm not doing that. So my whole thing was in Montreal. Well, then they would have been double mad So I went on our my favorite murder gmail page and put in Ontario and this is the first one I found and I was like, oh, yeah, of course because I've read about it And so I got a lot of little things from actually our email account for murdering us. Oh nice about Sudbury Someone of murder you know named M said quote I almost put the Providence abbreviation there

But then I thought if Georgia was reading this she'd appreciate the full name when she said where it was So thank you. Um, so it's about 400 kilometers from Toronto. Okay 248.548 miles how many 248.548 miles So kilometers are smaller than miles. That's what I gather like that information Yeah, the metric system. It's a mystery to me every American American, thank you About Sudbury and a murdering no-name Emily wrote essence said it's quote home of the big nickel

It's Emily with two E's shout out cuz she says for real for real We're literally known for just having a huge fucking statue of a nickel. And then that fix oh, there's this story How big is the nickel? Is it just a little bit bigger than a regular nickel and metrics is the metrics or do you yes? It's really big huge Huge is it as big as this? Like a like a ferris wheel type of I guess can you ride the nickel?

Wait also do you guys okay? Yeah, that's what I was thinking But we're not gonna ask the audience any more question. No, we're not. That's a bad idea Even though they're Canadian, they know everything super pop super polite. Okay, so this is they're like this is their fucking case And this one reminds me a lot of one of my obsessions, which is the Austin yogurt shop murders that I'm obsessed with Yeah, so in 1998 23-year-old Renee Sweeney is a fourth year What did we say that how did we say we said that? Laurentian I knew you'd remember that Laurentian University student she's studying music she plans on attending teachers college

So she can teach music and history. She's a study boyfriend plays a trombone in the Sudbury Symphony Orchestra Wow, she's like she's fucking great because of course. She is she's a sweet baby angel She fuck she's beautiful friendly warm. Her sister Kim said she had a lot of friends, but she was also quiet She was like really studious. This is her So she needed to help pay for school So she got a good paying part-time job that fit her school schedule It was at an adult video store Which of course everyone and everyone like where I read it wants to make clear like that

She was not in a CD underbelly all this bullshit But it also is like well, even if she was it didn't matter, but it was she was just a good job that she got It's they had to pay people a lot to work there truly And you can wipe down the counters anytime you want But it was just like pretty much like you know when you go in your video store in the 80s and 90s And then there was a back-red room. Yeah, it was basically just a whole store of the back-red room Not that big of a deal. Okay, you know

Um, but it was What I just thought of your Wasn't that porn that you said you saw one time naked with shoes naked with shoes on? It's in your shoes on it's in the whole stories in the book Stay sexy and don't get murdered coming out on May something Okay, so the video store is located in a busy strip mall, so it's not like creepy or anything like that There's a fucking natural food store next door where she sometimes shops and a door that connects the two There's a bagel short store a couple shops over it's like a normal fucking thing. Okay, here we go

It's a cold morning on Tuesday, January 27th 1998 and Renee opens a video store by herself and what would normally have been her day off because she wants to go to a Music performance on Saturday, so she works that day instead to get the day off and 1115 She's on the phone with a friend and then says she has to get off because the customers come in the door So she gets off the call What happened happened next is based on all the evidence because there's no witnesses The man who would enter the store stabbed her multiple times while she stood in front of the counter at the store She collapses. He thinks she's dead. He goes back into the washroom and washes up

When he's done, he comes out and she's not where he had left her She despite suffering dozens of stab wounds rent fucking Renee badass is able to drag herself Behind the counter trying to get to the phone But she doesn't make it He stabs her again. She was stabbed at least 35 times. Jesus Christ. It's Horrifying her attacker then stole about $200 from the till and a couple items from the shop And then he ran out pushing past a couple who were walking into the store who were just trying to get porn I mean these people

It took them so long to just Even get up the guts go in. Yeah And they came upon the bloody scene in 9-1-1 horrible I know so people saw his face as he ran by the bagel store and shit and when police arrived They used tracking dogs to track his movements It led them through some schools and to a nearby wooded area Where they found the killer's abandoned bloody jacket and a pair of gardening gloves that the killer had been wearing He like fucking took them off and left them. So let me show you the photo

It's so fucking creepy of the that's there. Um, and then it's a really original name So this is the jacket which is like so distinct, right? That's what's so crazy about this case And I feel like it's so frustrating almost more so when there's like not a lot of evidence is when there's so much Evidence and yet it still goes fucking cold and no one comes forward with any information It's it's almost like the pieces are right there and no one can put them together um, so So this is it's a men's large ocean blue colored high seara jacket It was sold only at mervin stores in the u.s. Oh mervins remember mervins. Yeah

So it was only sold in the u.s. During the winter of 1994 to 95 so three years earlier So it's fucking specific as shit right closest mervins to Sudbury is a six or seven hour drive So like not a lot of people were fucking sporting this right? Do you recognize this someone call in please okay? Um another strange thing about the jacket is that it's the middle of fucking january in ontario And as you and I know because we inappropriately dress for this trip It's fucking freezing. It's fucking freezing and that jacket's not gonna cut it. Yeah, you know So that's like a weird thing too. So they're like, oh is he in a form out of town? What's the deal?

Um inside the coat pocket. They find a single diaper pin Ew, isn't that creepy? Yeah, so many fucking um, so back at the video store also, sorry, but the idea that they used to use those things Near babies is like the most upsetting. Have you ever undone like My mom used to have a diaper pin like she saved a couple From when we were babies and you had to literally pin diapers because I'm 69 but If you flick one open, yeah

No, they're done for they were fine with sharp shit around babies back then they didn't care. Yeah Smoking over the baby as you stick a pin in to their diaper. There were no fucking covers on electric outlets You learned not to do that the first time you stuck a fork in it That's how you learn and then you're like, that's kind of fun and then you kept doing it and you got spanked for it Are you telling us a story george? I don't know Like having a recovered memory just say it just keep talking. What else? I hate january No, I love you. I texted her she texts me we're like meaning to call each other and I was like

I'm sick as fuck like I can't talk and she was like you she texted back. You love that word There's your favorite word again. Um, well, I will I have a fucking sore throat. So I'm not fucking going to like she just like mimicked me She's such an asshole Uh, this is horrible janet janet. Okay back at the video store The killer's uh bloody fingerprints are found on the cash the cash box where he sold the money as well as a bloody footprint And they could figure out that the print came from a man's size 10 Brooks brand athletic shoe and they can tell it was like the kind of shoe is a white shoe with a black stripe Like they fucking had all this information about this person that they of course

It was a huge story because it's insane. So Say sergeant david to folly of the greater sudsbury police sudbury. Yeah You're there. You got it in england sorry um Then the lead investor on the case said quote renais fought him and fought him hard and because of this Um investigators were able to gather dna from under renais fingernails from her scratching the shit out of her attacker amazing Witnesses described the killer as early 20s 5 10 to 6 feet tall

140 to 150 pounds with short dark hearing glasses and a sketch a composite sketch was made of him It's creepy. I'll show you in a minute. Okay As for the motive uh the investigators didn't even though they he stole shit It was like an afterthought. So they didn't think it was robbery robbery Investigators discovered that someone had so okay. So someone had been Calling and hanging up on renais um in the weeks leading up to her death and they found this out because she never mentioned anything to

To her friends family or co-workers, but they checked her phone records and someone had been obsessively calling her and harassing her and like They think stalking her and hanging up um, and also Because co-workers said that she always used to park as far away from the store as possible Which I think is that fucking annoying ass rule when you work in a store and they make you which shouldn't be allowed or she was embarrassed She's like, but I work at the bagel store. I didn't even know what you're talking about love schmere and

So she would usually park far away for some reason for whatever reason Um, and then in the week leading up to her murder. She had started parking right in front of the the store But she never mentioned to anyone. Why? um, and so Shortly after the murder the police arrested a 31 year old man Charge him with first degree murder in the case later admitted They'd wrongly accused him based on a mistaken match with the fingerprint and issued an apology. Let him go. It wasn't him Um, and the apology part is how you know it wasn't in the States

Very good point. Yeah Despite a composite sketch of the killer the distinctive jacket and gloves left behind The possibility that the murder had scratches on his face because he was covered up everywhere else So where else would you have scratched him? Um, all this other shit there would not be another arrest in the case for nearly another 21 years So police had eliminated 1800 people of interests when in early 2017 Greater, uh, Sudbury police released a new composite image of the murder suspects using our friend paraben nano labs

We know them We don't know them. They're so fun at the christmas party. It's nuts They take everyone's dna So they're that the dna technology that um, remember right, okay When they they're in, uh, virginia They use a snapshot dna phenotyping service and they predict what the appearance of the killer would look like based on Ancestry dna. So i'll show you essentially Uh, it's they do that. Yes

So like a creepy as fuck realistic photo and that's the composite sketch next to it. Wow. Yeah So they I mean obviously it's so close And creepy and we and I'll take it away. What do you think? I hate it. Yeah It's so creepy. I this was like right. Yeah, whoops Okay, sorry look down you have all am I stealing the covers you have all the covers I'm freezing Okay, so funny is it just says I've been slowly doing apple That's so distracting. Sorry. No, no, no, we're gonna have to bring a new a new setup

Fint God damn it. Um So creepy. I think this is like before I remember this is like the new thing right before Um, the golden state killer was caught based on genetic genealogy. Yeah, this was the thing And it's fucking creepy as shit. Everyone's losing their mind And the suspect is that they had come up with as a male of northern european ancestry with fair skin blue green eyes Brown blonde hair and freckles few freckles And then they added eyeglasses and yet still nobody was like, yo, that's my brother like someone knew that fucking jacket, you know

So then So our friend em from earlier from the letter, you know, is she here? She's here Someone's acting like they're em, but we can't tell for sure until we get her dna someone We're gonna get a picture up and we'll see if it's you someone's drunken has an m in their name So em my name's kathrym Man It's me So she says in her email to us she said last year was the 20th anniversary

So it started getting a lot of attention again And the police were feeling extra pressure to get itself because she was a pretty young white university student And not one of those thousands of missing and murdered indigenous women in this country. That's right That's right Good point very good point so So That doesn't mean renee doesn't deserve it to be but I also wanted to go ahead and yes bring that up It's a very good point. Okay. So this so the new lead of the the facey face over there

Brought in hundreds of tips, of course and then okay, and then in early 2018 Um, they law came into effect that expanded canadias Someone's nyquil just hit really hard Panadia I'm really sick I say it as a joke usually I came out of my mouth I could have acted like it was a joke, but I just couldn't okay. No, you guys Canada's national dna data bank, which at the time had only had dna from convicted offenders and dna collected from crime scenes it expanded

Um, and it gave uh everyone hope of catching renee's killer It was lindsey's law named after 14 year old lindsey nickles who had um gone missing on bank huber island in 1993 Which is why this law was passed and expanded the data bank Data bank to include dna from missing persons as well as from unidentified human remains so we can find out, you know, who is who so We're not totally sure what led to this crack in the case Because they're not they're not talking about it, but we all fucking know Um, it's probably something similar to the golden state killer. It's probably genetic genealogy because

A couple months ago in early november 2018 Greater Sudbury police identified a person of interest. Hmm be a forensic evidence which led them to obtain a search warrant And this led to the fucking arrest of 39 year old robert steven right of north bay Wow It fucking caught him. Yes You want to see his picture? Sure So He was 18 years old. What when he killed renee?

Yep, so On december 12 2018. He was arrested. This asshole was an 18 year old Lockerbie composite student at the time of the murder Where he was voted quietest Ew So fucking creepy god damn it Listen, I'm so sorry. Why are you voting on quietest like? Like you're not allowed to vote on like never creepiest

Exactly the teacher's like sorry the yearbook teacher Makes the hair on my the back of my neck stand up pissed. Yeah Quietest that's horrible. It's insane. The school is located about 500 meters or a third of a mile. Oh Oh, now I understand away from the video store So of course i'm reading all these reddit theories and people are like did he fucking like leave school for lunch and go into like What the fuck it's insane Which actually would be the perfect tidings place, right? That's because they wouldn't be like oh this murderer is in the high school

I think they kind of did search though because the dogs actually tracked his scent through through the school grounds Yeah, so Yeah, so this dick who also goes by steven or steve steve He's arrested where at his place of work, which is the north bay regional health care center That sounds like a hospital. He worked there as an emergency lab room technician So the fucking thing that got him caught as he's working there. He must have been scared shit Yes, I bet he was and of course people describe him as gentle nice and quiet Insanely quiet to the point of being upsetting, right

So now I know disgusting So just this past thursday February 21st a three-day bail hearing wrapped up in Sudbury court Where the court heard 12 hours of testimony on whether or not to give this fucking psychopath bail obviously don't Unfortunately, there's a court ordered publication ban on the on the testimony. So none of the details can be made public

But um the the justice edward grove said He needed more time to consider to granting bail and he's going to uh deliver his decision on march 27th So let's fucking keep an eye on that As a whole not the judge that fucking Not mad at him So kim sweeney the younger sister of renae sweeney last spoke to her big sister the night before renae's murder in 1998 When they stayed up until 12 30 in the morning talking on the phone, which is something that kim has always been glad about Um, she said it's been a very long 20 years. I'm so grateful that throughout this time

You've never forgotten my sister renae not only was she my amazing sister, but she was also my best friend And that's the not cold anymore case of renae sweeney amazing Yay This is why I swear every night before bed I google cold case and just read the news because it's there's always just It's another one happening every time it's so incredible. It's true. We live in a great age A wonderful and yet horrifying time Um, do we have time for a home now? Yeah, let's see Could we have the lights up a little so we can look? Oh, there's vince. Yeah

Uh, I took the liberty of looking it up and uh, it's a pretty big fucking nickel there in Sudbury. Is it? How big vince how big? Um pretty fucking big is it? Also out west when I used to tour out there, there's a town called vulcan alberta Where they have a giant enterprise starship enterprise A whole town of nerds Canada's the best. I love canada. I just want to remind I want to remind all you guys to always support canadian comedy and always support canadian comments Thanks vince good point. Um, all right. Oh, let's take a look. Okay. Listen to karen's

I'm gonna tell you some rules while you wave your arms around You can do that. That's fine Um, but this is the thing that helps most when we do our hometown murders. We love it to be local Certainly not american we love it When you are not so drunk you can't tell your own story We love it when it's concise when it has a beginning a middle and end What happened then what happened? How did it end? That's a beginning a middle of an end. Why did I just say that?

Um, uh, it's very nerve-wracking to be up here. So keep that in mind if you're the kind of person that might 30 seconds in have a breakdown. Maybe don't raise your hand Um, what else am I forgetting anything drunk? I don't know. I did drunk. I think they they know how to do it. So Who's got a goodie? Yeah, yeah Okay, come here Go that way. Okay. I'm trying to bring the lights down, please. Yeah, lights down. Thank you I'm trying a new thing of picking people out, but I'm not gonna tell anyone what it is. Yeah, I wouldn't because

Ooh, could you bring the lights down before um, she gets up here? Yeah, she'll freak out Thank you Thank you It's nicky I love some news. Nikki everyone. Where are you from Nikki? Well, I live in Toronto, but My story takes place in Rockwood, Ontario I thought I was gonna have to clarify that's near Guelph, but okay They know okay. Okay. Awesome. So, um, my story takes place, uh, or it starts

Um, when my mom was driving me and my sister to visit our grandparents on their farm in Rockwood So as we're turning into their long, it's like a kilometer long driveway Suddenly their neighbors, it's a you know, kind of dilapidated barn and weird situation And it's always looked pretty hoarder-esque there. Um, there are like five cop cars two ambulances And I turn to my mom and I'm like mom. What's going on? And her face drops and she says that's Tony border's house So now Now we actually have to go back to when my mom was 19

And one of her very close friends Susan Porter was found strangled to death in a shallow grave So when she was found it was Pretty clear They were able to identify who her killer was very quickly So Susan Porter her older sister was married to Tony borders older brother and one night He offered to Tony border offered to drive Susan home

And it's unclear whether it was consensual or not but they engaged in sexual activities and he, uh, was choking her For pleasure and he went too far and She she died and he panicked he dumped the body and And luckily he was caught and unfortunately he was only charged with manslaughter So he got, uh, I think it was eight years So now we get to fast forward back to us driving into the farm

So Tony border after he, uh, got out of jail He went on, uh, to get married to a lovely lady named crystal now crystal, um She, uh, she she had a very low IQ and she was a lot younger than Tony and you know She hadn't been very educated and she was just a very very sweet woman um, but Tony, uh, he was an abusive man and he He was you know, he was into Sexual games and stuff like that that he would force her into

They had two very young sons and on the day that we happened to be driving past He had set up a noose in their barn and He they had a safe word and he had said okay I want you to raise me up and when I get to my sexual level I will signal and you'll let me down, but she was at her her end She was at the end of her rope literally. Oh and crystal

And crystal When he signaled to be let down She just didn't And she Chain she chain smoked cigarettes for 15 minutes as he hung. Oh my god before she caught him loose And because he was so fucked in the head He had wanted to film All of these sexual activities. So the whole thing is on camera. Oh my god

and so At the end of it. She calls the police. She turns herself in she said I killed him, but he fucking deserved it He totally deserved it Oh my Jesus And she at her at her court case my my nanny who's my grandmother. Sorry, british. Um, she She uh, she testified she said that you know crystal was really lovely She was a really nice lady that you know, this was very out of character

And crystal ended up only getting a two years of house arrest Holy shit Holy So I just want to I just want to add my mom actually was supposed to be here tonight with me But she lives in parry sound and it was in It was uh, it was icy and she couldn't get here She's very safe. She's at home with her cat. What's her name her name's amanda

So my sister is my my sister christina's here with me. So she's part of the story too Uh, and yeah, so it ends up turning out. Well, luckily that guy got his just desserts Holy Nikki everybody Wow So good Jesus It was perfection. That's how you do a hometown murder

Oh my god That was amazing. There's twists I didn't know I was like, uh-oh. I absolutely wrote that in my head very differently Very differently the whole thing could have gone south I honestly feel like that's the first time I've ever heard of a woman In like a revenge killing like that getting That kind of a sentence again. We're in canada. Oh, we're in canada So sorry that's like last night

I'm watching tv and there's a commercial comes on for some serial and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? And I'm like, oh, that's right. I'm in a different country It was like it was like some serial look just like a serial commercial and everything's right And then look it was as if I was in a movie where they had to put on a fake commercial So it was like it was shreddies. I think they were called Are they delicious? I was just like fucking shreddies. What's happening? Like they couldn't use the brand name in your movie and so they put a fake one on it It was like the 555 of serials

No idea what was going on. This is two for two of my new picking method of hometowns and we're fine That's because we're in toronto baby. Maybe it's just because we're in canada I'm gonna take credit for it. Okay. No, it's all you. It's all you girl You guys You toronto Sold out this humongous theater two nights in a row for us Yeah It's fucking crazy

It's crazy last time we were here. I think it was a year ago You guys did the same thing and we like got to fucking Headline about over a bunch of fucking Comedy dudes who are not used to fucking ladies just talking and selling shit out So thank you Yeah This whole community means so much to us. We appreciate you guys so much for letting us do this It's such a beautiful fucking thing to see you guys come together and be friends and share your stories and share your anxieties

And uh, we just love the community so much. Also, you've given us over 500 canadian kick butts so far It's true. We have so much candy right now. It is disgusting. It's crazy and amazing. We love it You guys put caramel in them. What the fuck is going on? Yeah, this is a this is a dream come true I mean, we're like living a dream come true and it's because of our amazing listeners who support us and are here And we just can't thank you enough. We never be able to so thank you so much for being here And thank you for being there for each other. It's really amazing and uh, so stay sexy and Bye Toronto, thank you