My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - 96 - Live at the Hard Rock in Orlando
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Oh my god. Vince is so fired.
He left his sunglasses up here.
Oh, I thought... I honestly
thought you, like, secretly brought them on stage.
Like, here's my hilarious joke.
This is for Orlando. No, Vince
straight up left
smaller meeting after this show fired divorce everything I have to just tell you guys right
now the second wave of screaming yeah uh that hit a new high I've never I don't think we've heard
that before.
Yeah!
Fucking rock and roll at the Hard Rock Cafe, everybody.
They're screaming outside
because there's a roller coaster, but it's really weird
if you don't think about that. There's just
screaming outside. I'm going to
admit something to you. Go ahead. We got out of
the car to go into the back
you know know artist entrance
and um i heard some distant screaming and i was like guys guys guys we'll see you in a second
and then it was like a roller coaster goes like that it's just like oh no i've lost my mind already
getting too big i'm such an a A. Already. You guys got us
screaming, which is cool because Tampa
got us an active serial killer. Yes.
That was nice.
You made up for it. What a gift.
I mean. What an amazing
on-brand gift for us.
We were honored.
Karen made a good point. Vince was like, if you guys
if you solve this
and find the guy, you're going to be huge.
Yes.
Imagine.
And then Karen was like, well, we haven't seen Steven and the active serial killer in the same room at the same time.
Let's just set him up for it and get the glory.
I believe he's an active serial killer.
Fucking mustaching around.
He's not here, so we can say anything we want about him. Yes, say anything you want.
He's just with my cats, so
don't be too harsh.
They wanted
him to be under here so bad.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Guys,
welcome. This is My Favorite Murderer.
We're a podcast
thank you
that's Karen Kilgaren
that's Georgia Hardstar
thank you
thank you
remember what we did
this afternoon oh dude
so we had a drive here from
Tampa and we had like a couple hours between
when your hotel room it kicks you out and then lets you into the next one so we're like what here from Tampa and we had like a couple hours between when your hotel room kicks you out
and then lets you into the next one
so we're like what the fuck do we do
A. Waffle House
all the way to the place
it was my first time
it was
unbelievably
regular
yeah which is good
because most people are like, don't go there.
Don't go there. You're going to regret it.
I don't regret it. Here's the thing.
Those biscuits, I had a biscuit
without gravy on it and it was,
I was like, is this fried?
Because it was really thin
and it was filled with
butter or Crisco
or some butter flavored Crisco.
But it was really good
so then we ate and then
we went to there's this town called
Plant City
Plant City
you love Plant City
so do we
it was nuts
so we went to all these like my dream
just a town full of antique malls.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
So much vintage Tupperware.
Georgia kept picking up bowls and going, should I get this?
It's like, yes, it's perfect for flying.
A nice big bowl from 1964.
But it has the classic pattern.
I'll never find it
in Los Angeles.
And then Karen had the great idea while we were wandering around.
She was like, let's get a weird
creepy present for whoever does the hometown
murder tonight.
So then
it didn't happen.
So then, yeah, let it go.
Let it go. Don't get connected to
material things
in this life that you have.
But Georgia is immediately like, let's get a haunted picture.
You know what I mean?
Like something haunted.
Let's get something awful.
And you're like, there you go.
Now you have to keep it.
Sorry.
So we were like searching for a thing.
And what about this?
And just kept holding up weird shit.
I found salt and pepper
shakers of
two little children
on the back
because I couldn't
figure out what it was.
It was like
they had big blue eyes
but then green heads
and they were holding
their knees like this
and on the back
it just said
melon children.
Yeah, there was a lot
of like the quaint
creepy racism
that they had back then.
They're just like here's this funny thing.
And now you're like, you can't do that anymore.
You should take this out of the store, please.
Yeah.
And like, I don't want a swastika memorabilia case.
We pass this thing and Georgia goes, first swastika, like at the top of her lungs.
Oh, so good.
So good.
I found it, everybody.
It's like a scavenger hunt.
Tapica.
On it.
So we found, Karen found this gorgeous jewelry box.
Okay, so if you are from the 70s, like myself,
they had those jewelry boxes that you open them up
and then the ballerina flicks up on a spring,
and then it's like...
Talk about fucking haunted.
It's like the scariest thing as a child,
where you're like,
this is absolutely a murder soundtrack.
It's like a ghost is absolutely making this happen.
Yeah.
For sure.
Put on your rings, little girl.
And forever.
And then, wasn't there like a movie where if you're bad,
you get trapped forever as the fucking ballerina? There is is now and then she gets close to the thing every night keep going
someone take dictation that's amazing it was just like gorgeous version of it perfect condition
ballerina everything was like gorgeous about it it was it was like it was way bigger than a normal one and you opened
it and then things went out like that and then there was a bottom drawer everything was happening
it's like from the 50s probably cream on the outside salmon pants salmon pink on the inside
like velvet untouched it looked like some old lady bought it for someone and was like
fuck them and put it up in this closet and never gave it to anybody and then died.
Right?
Yeah, so it's just filled with hate.
Which attracted me immediately.
And I picked, and also it was way back, it was on the bottom shelf way back.
This is my fucking favorite experience.
One of those kind of stores where I'm like, but what's this?
So I open it to Georgia and she's like, we have to get it.
And we're looking at it.
And on the back, embossed in gold, it said Lady Buxton.
It's from a company called Lady Buxton.
Lady Buxton.
Which we're naming our company.
We're stealing that.
We're changing the name of our company.
There's no way that company's still in business.
Or are they?
Someone started crying in the front row just now.
Sorry.
No, I saw what happened. There was like, probably leftover from like, who played here last night? Let's guess.
Just Jay Giles band?
Yeah, Jay Giles band. A piece of glitter. One piece left fell from the sky.
Oh, then Katy Perry, right?
Her lap.
How big is it?
Holy shit. Can I have that?
Thank you.
I feel like if we had that.
That's not glitter, baby.
That's a razor blade.
If we had that jewelry box, she would get it.
Oh, one for me?
Ma'am, please don't come toward the stage unless you're called up.
Can you believe that shit?
You did it exactly right.
She's rushing the stage like a lunatic.
I can't believe you.
Karen.
Oh, yes.
Did you lick it?
No.
I thought about it,
but I can't imagine what it's made of.
Yes.
There.
Now we just get beamed the fuck up
into space to be with Heaven's Gate
we don't have to record
this episode it's going to go straight into Stephen's
brain
this looks good
this is not to be a TV insider but when I worked
on Ellen this
you do one giveaway where like it's like
we're going to send this soldier and his wife on a cruise,
and then they have confetti cannons that explode in the audience
and out onto the stage.
Oh, there it goes.
And this, for the next 17 shows, every once in a while, this happens.
And I swear to God, one time they got Oprah to come on that show,
which was a very big get because both shows still existed on regular TV. And at the very end, Oprah was just like taking this
huge Christ-like bow of like, you're welcome for my presence, everyone. And this piece
of confetti just went like this and landed on her head.
Ellen was like, no.
Or she was like, yeah.
So awesome. Anyways. Any like, yeah. So awesome.
Anyways.
Anyhow.
Lady Buxton.
Lady Buxton.
Refocus.
Standing in line.
It was really cheap.
We're standing there like, we got our thing for the person.
We have the best ideas.
And then this woman comes up behind us, this real sweet, like, you know, really normal person.
Like, so not from LA.
Like a really nice, normal person. Like, so not from L.A.
Like, a really nice, normal woman.
Yeah.
And she's like, oh, is that a lady Buxom?
Like, what did she say?
She said, oh, see, I have that one back there.
It's very similar.
It's from my daughter, and I have two other daughters I'm trying to get.
Where did you find it?
And I was like, it was on the bottom shelf.
I was doing a full body block. I was like, bottom bottom shelf don't worry about where I fucking found it lady was
like I still have mine from when I was in second grade I'm not fucking kidding
she still has her and I'm trying to get a couple from my night down went over
there did you see yeah she was very so Georgia looks at me and goes and I was
like what the fuck she ignored me she. And I was like, what the fuck? She ignored me. She just ignored. Vince was like, yeah.
Yeah.
And I was like this.
And Karen wouldn't look at me.
Anyway, could you guys finish up so we can get the lady boxed in?
Georgia turns around and goes, you should have it.
And the woman goes, oh, no, no, no.
Like she's giving her the fucking holy grail.
Oh, no.
And you just put it into her hands?
Because you gave me a nod.
I did, I did, I did.
I don't want to seem like I'm fucking amazing,
but, I mean, it was my idea.
I broke.
I did break at the end.
And she goes, oh, no.
And we just immediately started walking away.
She started crying.
Wipes her eyes, and then we were all like,
we're the best people in the fucking world.
It was the best. So no one gets a prize tonight
Except for that lady
That lady gets a prize
Because we are good people
And then we were running scenarios of how she's a con woman
And that thing is worth like $700 on eBay
And she does that to everybody
Where she's like they got the fucking bucks
Let's see I have daughters
I have daughters
And the woman who works there is like Judy we told you you can't bother the other customers anymore.
Judy's a pirate.
Judy.
Judy, you nut.
Judy.
I just want to mention someone was good enough.
Edward, you made us cookies tonight.
Thank you, Edward.
They were delicious.
We got some cookies sent backstage.
Yeah, you could have done it too.
But this is my favorite thing.
He wrote a really nice card,
and then he wrote,
P.S., I almost got fired for writing
stay sexy, don't get murdered
on our positivity board at work.
Maybe they need to be more specific
about what being positive means,
because it's not the same thing for everyone.
No, we're all different special snowflakes in this world.
And everyone has a positivity angle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's positive to not get murdered.
I'm positive I did not want to get murdered.
Yes.
For sure.
And then, like, now I'm obsessed with...
Edward, where do you work?
He works at the police station.
Let him say that.
Oh, what?
Where is it?
Diagon Alley at Universal.
Oh, my God!
That's awesome.
You're a wizard, Harry.
You are so lucky they didn't fucking put a bag over your head
and pull you out and, like, dump you out over the county line.
Oh my God.
They're going to now.
You're like.
He tried to SSD GM Harry Potter.
You can't do that.
That's not for them.
Everyone knows.
Oh, I wrote down the word head wound right here.
Oh, Jesus.
Talk about a head wound.
Talking about a...
Talking about walking into our hotel lobby
to fucking check in after our little drive
and the fucking kid has a straight up head wound
in the lobby.
He's fine.
He's fine.
He was talking and walking.
Everything's okay.
But bleeding. Fully bleeding down his face. He was talking and walking. Everything's okay. But bleeding.
Fully bleeding down his face.
We were just like walking past him and his mom screaming
at the father.
I've never heard, I didn't know this was a real thing that people
actually said to each other. She yelled to the dad
who was just hanging out at the fucking front desk
watching the mom freak out.
Don't just stand there!
Do something! She actually said those words out loud.
And the dad was like, they're getting ice.
It was just like the most unhappy family.
Perfect for vacation here in Orlando.
They're fine.
We were following them to get into the elevator.
And Karen goes, let's not get on the elevator
with the rage family.
And I was so bummed because I really wanted to get on the elevator with the rage family. And I was so bummed because I really wanted to get on the elevator
with the rage family.
Just hear what they have to say to each other.
I am such a denial-based Irish Catholic.
You and your family could be strangling each other in front of me,
and I'd be like, anyway, so what are your Thanksgiving plans?
None of my business.
The wall?
The wall. You're interviewing the wall.
And then when they were getting on the elevator, we heard them say
well, this has been a disaster.
That was the mother.
It's been a disaster.
Now let's go to Diagon Alley for Christ's sake.
Well, they're all
positive there.
Everyone's positive. We'll get some positivity
over there. Fucking everyone's positive. We'll get some positivity over there.
Fucking live. Finally.
Oh, shit, guys.
Also, when we got up, when I got upstairs,
I immediately went back downstairs
to buy a Diet Coke, and
right as I pressed the button for the elevator,
this lady comes out of the stairwell.
And she was kind of rad.
She had a huge eagle tattoo on her bicep
where i was like who are you and she looks at me waiting for the elevator and she goes
i wouldn't get in there we just got stuck i swear to god i'm like we have been here 15
fucking minutes and everything has happened. Yeah.
Trouble follows us.
Yes.
It does.
All the way to Orlando.
Yay.
Get it, girl.
Thank you.
Oh, that's nice.
Thank you.
So much.
That's what we do.
Oh, should I make my excuse about my outfit?
I really did want to, I have a new black dress that I wanted to wear. I guess subconsciously I didn't want to wear it.
Because I forgot my tights in my car
at the airport. I don't know how I did
it. I didn't want to wear that dress.
You did it because you didn't want to. I didn't want to wear that dress.
Yes, I didn't.
That's not true. You love it. I offered you
my tights last night. I was like, I didn't shave my legs
but you can have them. I'll take them off for you.
You've done it for me. Taking them for the team. I was just like, nah, I'll just wear my
pajamas. And I remembered I had diamond hoop earrings and I was like, they'll do all the work.
They draw the eye away. Nails. All right. Listen, we work hard for you guys. Listen, look, it's so
hard doing a live podcast.'s really traveling that's not true
it's not true we're lying to your face this is so easy and lucky listen i can't believe i just
want to know what he's thinking right now uh this is my husband he's the guy he's our tour manager
he sets everything up he gets shit done and taken care of, and we know it.
And he does stuff so perfectly, we would be a fucking mess without him.
And I just love that he left his sunglasses on the table.
He made us this rug.
He made us this rug.
He works really hard.
Yeah, he really does.
He does.
I think he got these at his dispensary, too, by the way.
Anyway.
Do you have those here?
You don't get to sell pot.
No.
You do? There's a yes and a no. Someone knows something here? You don't get to sell pot. You do?
There's yeses and noes.
Someone knows something that you guys don't know.
They're not telling you.
Some people are like, wait, you do?
They have one.
They have just the one dispensary?
Just the one.
Well, you guys got to get there and get some sunglasses.
Come out to California.
Those sunglasses are made of pot.
Don't tell the TSA. YeahSA I couldn't remember that for a second
also speaking of
pot you guys have a horse here
that got a DUI or something
am I getting that wrong
I actually looked the story up so I could
see the lady
it's the best
mug shot if you look it up
it was in Lakeland
and she rode her horse
you know it this is your
we're going to tell you your news seven days later
it's fun
she's writing down
people call the cops because she's
obviously drunk on a horse
well she's not
steering the horse
the horse isn't going to be like no I'm not going to fucking walk off the road
the horse is just like
lady it's your call
I'm going where you tell me to go
she's like
she was
double over the limit
so it was a.161
that's nothing
I could do that in fucking two hours
if you care if you care you can
do it that's the wrong message but you've got to see her headshot she headshot i mean mugshot
we've been in la for too long she is my favorite actress
it was blythe danner. Isn't that crazy?
No.
What does she look like?
It's one of those things, and you guys are familiar with this,
where the hair is young and the face is old.
Oh, that is the saddest description.
Hair is young, face is... That's the saddest four words I've ever heard together.
Well, because she had kind of like, I think an accidental ombre.
You know what I mean? So like
this part of her hair was one color and then
down here was a different one. Like right
here, her life got
hard.
Like she was doing great
six months ago when this part was
here and then some shit
went down. Yeah.
And dying her hair was no longer a priority.
I've been there.
I hope to God that woman isn't sitting in this audience with a single tear rolling down
her cheek right now.
Well, if she is, I hope her hair looks great.
She deserves it.
She went to the, after that, she was like, look, I'm going to get it together.
I put my horse at risk.
I'm going to get it together. I put my horse at risk. I'm going to the salon.
We're going to get these roots strip bleached and have everything look the same.
The secret to not looking like that is just to always have brown hair.
Because then no one knows how bad your fucking month is going.
Yeah.
You know?
That's true.
What were you going to say?
Well, that seemed judgmental.
Sorry, everybody.
Bye.
What were you going to say?
Well, that seemed judgmental.
Sorry, everybody.
Bye.
This is a true crime podcast.
Yes, that's right.
It's a... Tell you that ahead of time.
True crime with a touch of comedy.
Yeah, but they're not...
You know what I mean?
They're like, we take them apart.
You can put them back together. We're not doing that. Some people don't like it. Yeah, but they're not, you know what I mean? They're like, we take them apart. You can put them back together.
We're not doing that.
Some people don't like it.
Yeah.
So say you're one of those people tonight.
Yeah.
Keep it to yourself.
We know.
Don't worry.
We know.
Everyone's let us know online.
They tell us.
We meet lots of people who are like, she brought me.
Yeah.
I never heard you guys before.
You're pretty funny.
That's what happens.
No, everyone's the best.
Should we sit down?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes.
The best part.
Truly the best part.
These are nice seats.
Hard Rock Cafe.
Cushy.
My sweat towels here.
I'm going to do this like my mom at Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
My mom at Thanksgiving would get dressed in like a really nice outfit and then go downstairs
to cook.
So then she always had this on her shoulder.
And she'd be like, could you girls make one appetizer, please?
Could you girls?
The most disgusting rag. Oh no then there's this Van Halen use this rag very
recently that's the Sun it's a deep cut all right let's put everything in order
the glitter goes here that goes there I left mine there okay great here we go
mine yours that's yours is my Kleenex.
That is actually a napkin.
All right.
Who?
It's me.
It's you.
It's me.
Okay.
Karen goes first.
That's right.
Thank you.
Okay.
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conditions apply. It's hard when we are home from these shows and people don't cheer us constantly for every single fucking thing we do all day long.
I have a hard time.
How do we know if we're doing well or not?
I'm like, I'll look around and be like, excuse me, I just sat down.
Why is...
How do I know if I'm supposed to sit down or not?
Alright, so my murder tonight and my story I'm about to tell you is about a little lady named Judy Buenoano, the Black Widow killer.
Ooh.
Love a good Black Widow.
Buenoano, probably.
Still.
Still.
Still, I said it the way I said it.
You can pick those up and throw them away.
Let's make it look nice.
I got most of my information.
You know when you go on YouTube to look up a serial killer you need to know information about?
And there's somebody that has posted a TV show as if it's their TV show.
So I think it was a guy, it was something like, it was some kind of a play on words
where it looked like his name was like,
it was like kicker in the ass or something,
but it was broken up so it looked like a guy's name.
It was great.
Anyway, but he didn't make the show.
I'm pretty sure it's a show called Women on Death Row.
And the little thing up in the corner said CI,
but I've never heard of that channel before.
So I don't know what was happening,
but if you go on YouTube,
that was where I got most of this information. Plus there's a website
called crimemuseum.org. That's really good. That had a bunch of information about her too.
Okay. So Judy Bueno-Año was born Judeus and Luolte on April 4th, 1943 in Kwanah, Texas.
That's the shortest sentence with all the names I can't pronounce in it.
So get those out of the way.
Yeah, we started off strong.
Okay, so her mother died when she was two.
She and her brother Robert get sent to live with the grandma.
A year later, the father remarries, brings them back.
They now live in New Mexico.
And she then has a whole childhood of abuse
by the
new stepmother and I guess there were
five stepbrothers that were all
dicks. So she has it
bad. And then
when she's 14 she snaps
throws hot grease on the stepbrothers
and attacks the father and stepmother.
What the fuck?
She fucking lostother. What the fuck? She fucking
lost it. Remember the
fact that you just cheered for Judy, because you're
going to regret that later.
Do you think she had a thing like this, and she
was just like, ya dicks?
And just threw a thing at her?
She was like, they were like, this bacon
isn't crispy enough. And she's like, oh
yeah? Let me put my towel down really
quick.
Okay. So she, she is sentenced to 60 days in a detention center. And then she decides, well,
I'm not going back home. So she goes to a girls reform school. She graduates from there. And then
she, um, studies to become a nursing assistant. Um, in 1961, she, when she's 18, she gives birth
to her son, Michael, out of
wedlock.
She never says who the father is.
Then the following year, she marries
a guy named James Goodyear. He's an
Air Force officer. They have two more
kids, and then they all move to
Orlando.
Hey!
She, in 1968, opened a place called the Conway Acres Child Care Center.
You guys went there? Was it fun? Did you ever... did everything taste like almonds?
Because there's a poisoning aspect to this story. So her husband James Goodyear, is sent to Vietnam.
In 1979, he comes back from Vietnam,
and in September of the same year, he starts to get really sick.
He's vomiting. He's really weak. He can't get out of bed.
He ends up being hospitalized.
She goes and visits him in the hospital, sits by his bed every day.
He ends up dying.
Yeah.
bed every day, he ends up dying. Yeah. So she gets his life insurance money as a widow will.
Then later on that year, her house catches on fire and burns all the way down. She gets a little insurance money for that too. Then she begins dating a man named Bobby Joe Morris And in 1977 he moves to Colorado
So she packs up all her kids
And she moves to Colorado
And moves in with him
Within a year Bobby Joe
Is in the hospital dying
Of a mysterious illness
It includes vomiting and being very weak
You know that mystery
It's just a weird mystery
This was back when they didn't know what caused anything.
So when she would go visit him in the hospital,
she would bring him Hawaiian Punch from home
in like a Tupperware container.
He just loves Hawaiian Punch.
Tupperware.
He loves Tupperware.
Vintage Tupperware.
I bet it was corn maze yellow.
Yeah, she's like to the nurse is like, he just has to have his Hawaiian punch from out of this specific container poured by me only.
Don't drink any.
Yeah.
So in January of 1978, he dies of this illness.
And none of the doctors have no idea what it is.
When they do the autopsy, nothing shows up. Five days after he dies, she cashes three life
insurance checks from all the policies she'd taken out on him a couple of months before he died.
But everyone's like, wow, what a lucky coincidence. Congratulations, Judy.
So she ends up buying a house in Whisper Bay.
No?
It's near Pensacola.
And are you from Pensacola?
Because you didn't know what Whisper Bay was.
So I think you might be fucking lying.
Everyone from Whisper Bay is really quiet
because Pensacola just won't stop
screaming all the time.
So they're like, we're a little, we
specifically moved you because we don't like
loud things.
Of course you don't know who's from Whisper
Bay. They're snapping
in their seats.
Yes, Whisper Bay. They're snapping in their seats. Yes, Whisper Bay.
We love it here.
Okay.
Okay.
Now Judy changes her name legally to Judy Bueno Año,
which is Spanish for Goodyear,
which you might remember was her dead first husband's last name.
Creepy.
Pretty creepy.
Okay.
So in June of 1979, her son Michael drops out of high school.
He's like 17.
He joins the army.
And before he leaves to go to Fort Bennington, he stops by her house.
Oh, sorry, Fort Benning, Georgia.
He stops by her house to visit her to say goodbye. And she gives him some sort of, some item that he eats or drinks, perhaps
a delicious cup of Hawaiian punch. I'm not sure. When he gets to Fort Benning, he becomes gravely
ill, vomiting, weakness, whatnot. He is found to have high levels
of arsenic in his system.
So his limbs begin
to atrophy. This is one of the
side effects. And he becomes
paralyzed
in his legs and then he
can't use his hands.
So he has to wear braces on
his legs and he basically can't
use his hands. So he's discharged from the army and he moves back in with his mother, you know, so his
mother can take care of him in his illness.
I got a bad feeling about her.
Do you?
Yeah.
Who, Judy?
Judy.
Um, so in May of 1980, the day he comes back from being discharged from the army with his paralysis and his
illness, she plans a fishing trip.
Okay. Same day.
Think it through.
No. If she's not gonna, I'm not gonna.
Could you imagine, you're like, even if
it was just like you were at college and you came home
because you got the flu and you
walk in the front door and your mom's like,
here we go, car trip, let's go. You you you like walk in the front door and your mom's like here we go car trip let's go you'd be like what the yeah she gets a canoe they get a a folding chair
and strap him into the chair in the canoe no and michael the younger brother james and judy all go
on a canoe fishing trip in the East River.
That sounds like a bummer,
even if you're at fucking top of your health game.
Yes, you're feeling great.
Fuck no.
You took tons of vitamins and you're like,
I don't want to get in that fucking canoe.
Yeah.
We went on, I just remembered,
we went on a canoe trip in the Russian River
when I was like 10 years old.
And it was our family and our next door neighbor,
the hospitars who are like our family.
And my dad, who is six foot four, probably 280 pounds.
And my cousin Cheryl's husband at the time, Mike,
who was even bigger than my dad.
They were like best friends.
Like we're going to get in our own canoe and bring beer.
You know, like our time.
They flipped over in that canoe.
I'm not kidding.
Like probably 30 times as we're going. It was not kidding, like probably 30 times. As we were
going, it was supposed to be like this lazy
canoe trip down the river. Just every
five minutes, it was like, and all their
shit would go everywhere. And they'd laugh,
and they'd stand up and drink a beer or whatever. That sounds kind of
awesome. It was fucking hilarious.
Well, we finally get to the end of the trip
to turn the canoes back in, and they
turn the canoe to the side, and it says, like
max weight 300 pounds.
Those idiots.
Just a little family fun sidebar
before we go back into the horror show
that is this family.
Okay.
So at one point, the canoe tips over,
and some fishermen find James and Judy treading water and, like, trying to hold on to the canoe.
And Judy tells them, my son Michael has braces on his legs and he went down and we can't find him.
Right?
So they find Michael's body a quarter of a mile down the river.
Because he had braces on his arms and legs, so he basically sunk right to the bottom.
So Judy tells the cops,
she tells them one story was
the fishing line got caught in trees.
One story was they hit a log,
a log bumped them and knocked the canoe over a floating log.
And then one story was there was a snake in the canoe.
It's like...
Could have been all three at the same time.
I mean, could you imagine?
A snake-filled log hits your fishing line.
Yes.
All right.
The younger son, James,
says he has no memory of the incident
because he was knocked out
when the thing happened and unconscious.
So it turns out, Michael, having been in the Army,
has a $20,000 life insurance policy purely from just being in the Army.
There wasn't just the Army life insurance policy.
There were several other on her son.
So she collects all of that money,
and she goes and opens a beauty salon called Fingers and Faces.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Yeah.
I'm pretty.
Make me pretty.
Make my fingers and faces pretty, please.
I have ten fingers and four faces.
Can someone help me?
I have ten fingers and four faces.
Can someone help me?
Fingers and faces.
That's the kind of place if I saw it, I would take a picture of it and try to think of a good tweet about it.
Fingers and faces.
Okay.
Concentrate on one of those things.
Yeah.
Anyways.
Yeah, they're not.
A nail salon and a facial place,
never the twain shall meet.
No.
Like, can you imagine you're there
trying to get a facial
with like cucumbers on your eyes
and then that like nail polish smell
wafts in?
It's like, relax.
Relax.
We're peeling off the top three layers
of your facial skin.
Okay.
In the meantime,
there's some people out there
that are like, i like fingers and faces
um oh do you have photos by the way we can show photos no okay i mean not yet oh okay great okay
sorry she starts dating a local businessman named john gentry um so in october of 1982 i mean they
said she had a really magnetic personality, of course, clearly.
She can get any man and poison any man she wants.
He was a local businessman?
Was it called toes and decolletage?
Yes.
Toes and elbow? Toes and neck?
His business was shaving men's neckbeards off in the 70s. And pedicure, and promising your feet.
And just being like,
if you're going to wear those Bergen stocks,
you've got to get rid of that heel shit.
Ugh, gross.
So they were a match made in heaven.
None of this is true.
He probably did taxes.
Okay, so in October of 1982,
Judy, as you do when you start dating someone,
convinces John that they should take out life
insurance policies on each other.
You know, that next step.
That romantic next step.
You date, you fuck,
you take out life insurance policies on each other.
Boom.
I mean, come on. That's how it is.
Let's get real.
Then she tries to start,
she gives him special vitamins that she said are going to be
very good for him. They're citrus based as most things are here in Florida. And
you know, he, there's nothing wrong with him, but she's like, it looks like you need some vitamins.
So of course he starts taking them, starts vomiting, feeling weak, the whole thing. So
he stops taking them and this infuriates
her. Good. These are all good signs that you're getting poisoned. Yeah. You're just like, so
you're mad about the vitamins or is it something else? No, it's the vitamins. So on June 25th,
1983, um, she tells John that she's pregnant. And she insists that they get married,
which I think has something to do with the life insurance policy.
It's funny, insist that you get married to someone.
Yeah.
They insist.
It's so romantic.
I know.
That insistence.
I demand that you love me forever.
Okay, so the same night,
she's hosting a party for an employee at Fingers and Faces.
I think it was someone that specialized in faces.
It was the face side of the business.
And all the fingers people sat on one side of the room and the face people sat on the other.
They're really catty.
But she tells John that he should drive his own car to the party and park in a very specific parking spot.
Okay.
And he's like, sounds good.
I don't question you in any way.
And thanks for those vitamins, Judy.
Oh, God.
So at the end of the night, she says, on the way home, will you stop by the liquor store and get some champagne and bring it home for us?
And he's like, sure, no problem. And on his
drive to the liquor store, his car explodes.
But he survives.
I don't have a picture of this car.
I should.
Explain it to us.
Let us picture it.
I'll paint you a picture.
One of those early 80s should. But... Explain it to us. Let us picture it. I'll paint you a picture. That's what I meant.
These early... One of those early 80s cars that looks like it's a rectangle with two things cut out, right? Like how a child would draw a car. Yeah, exactly. There's no curve in any way. This
is before the Ford Taurus when everything was still real boxy. And I think it's like kind of a creamy yellow color.
Absolutely.
Bugging.
What are they?
Bucket seats.
Sunflower.
It's sunflower color.
Bucket seats.
Sunflower.
Bench seats.
Thank you.
Yeah.
That's the confetti lady.
She knows everything.
Okay.
So,
and the entire back it,
so it turned out there were five sticks of dynamite in the trunk
that were connected with copper wire to the rear lights.
So the first time he fucking put on those brakes,
the back of the car exploded five pieces of dynamite worth.
Where do you even buy dynamite?
At Acme, I think, right?
Oh, everyone knows.
Oh, I'm the idiot.
She also got a couple anvils,
but that was for later when he actually got home.
And then, of course, just a big black spot
she was going to put down on the ground and fall into.
I could keep making Roadrunner references forever, everybody.
Do it, do it.
Abandoned child.
I was raised by TV.
Okay.
Okay, so, of course, the cops, since he survives,
are like, hey, do you know anyone who wants to kill you?
And he's like, no, this is nuts.
Although, we did have a vitamin incident
at our house a couple months ago
so they start looking into it
and they get the vitamins
that she had been giving him
and it turns out there's
paraformaldehyde in the vitamins
which is the chemical that you use
at nail salons to clean the instruments
ooh that blue shit
fingers, faces
the blue shit like baringers. Faces.
The blue shit,
like Barbersaw stuff?
I mean, I don't know. Whatever.
Whatever paraformaldehyde is. I don't know.
I should have looked it up. I'm sorry. You shouldn't have.
That's a... Yeah.
Listen. Look.
Look. Thank you so much.
Okay, then they find out
that when Judy and John
had their romantic life insurance policy
takeout session,
she had secretly behind his back
raised his limit to $500,000.
Yeah.
So then he was like,
huh, maybe things aren't as they seem.
So the cops then have like probable cause, I guess,
to get a warrant and search the house,
and they find there is copper wire
in the teenage son's room, James,
that matched the copper wiring
that hooked the TNT up to the rearview light.
I'm sorry, but that is just the...
I mean, car bombs are bad,
but that is fucking hilarious.
We were just like gassing it gassing it oh oh maybe
i'll break no i don't have to it's like oh i just wish i could have seen it um in the cartoon way
not in a real person way okay so they also find out that judy had made plans to go on a world cruise and John was not invited.
No ticket for John.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
So they're like,
this doesn't seem great.
So in July of 1983,
Judy is arrested for attempted murder,
as is her teenage son,
but he is later acquitted
at trial.
And because this is so fucking nuts,
it raises suspicions about the 1,000 other dead
people in her life.
So they start exhuming bodies.
And it turns out her son Michael had also had arsenic in his system.
And James Goodyear had arsenic in his system.
And Bobby Joe Morris had arsenic in his system.
Heavy doses, it was described as.
So then she's charged with their murders also. So the first trial was for her son Michael.
And in court, the prosecutors actually show how based on the things that got dumped out of the
canoe, where basically all the stuff in the canoe was dumped
out where James and Judy were treading water and holding onto the canoe, but where Michael's body
was, there was nothing. So it couldn't have tipped where he was found. So basically they
dumped him out of the canoe and then rode away and then staged the accident.
Wow. You can tell all that?
Yeah. By floating bags filled with like fucking Cheetos
and stuff. Because they kept all the stuff around them. Yeah, weird. Yes. So she's convicted of the
murder of her son Michael on March 31st, 1984. And then in October, she goes to trial for the
attempted murder of her boyfriend, John Gentry. She's convicted of that murder.
Her third trial begins a year later.
And for this she's facing the death penalty for the 1971 murder
of her first husband James Goodyear by arsenic poisoning.
On November 26, 1985 she's found guilty of that murder
and she's sentenced to die in the electric chair.
Shit.
Yeah.
So of course,
she denies ever having anything to do
with any of these deaths.
It's just a series of terrible coincidences.
Fingers, faces.
Fingers, faces crossed.
Yes.
Cross your fingers across your face
that everything turns out good.
So, she never says anything
when she's on death row.
But 12 years into her sentence,
she decides to grant an interview
to a local newswoman named Sue Straw.
You know, Sue, she's good.
Because Sue was a customer at Judy's Nail Salon.
Oh, my God.
And Sue says in this show that I'm watching,
she was like,
even then I could not see her as a murderer.
Wow.
Because she said she was just so soft.
And then I was like,
God damn it, Sue.
She's a sociopath.
That's the whole game.
They're going to act like the thing
that you wouldn't suspect.
You know who killed people?
Soft people.
Yeah.
They kill people too.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's better to act soft than everyone's like,
her, she's such a lady with her beautiful fingers
and her gorgeous face.
But then they have this clip of that interview.
And when Sue brings up the charge
that Judy had dumped her own paralyzed son out of a fucking canoe and drowned him,
she goes from talking like this of, this has been very hard for me.
And she's kind of like one of these ladies.
And then Sue's like, yeah, but how about that canoe thing?
And she's like, and who said that?
What witness said that?
No witness said that.
The prosecution said that.
And she like turns into the fucking wicked witch of the east so
quickly it's scary it's like one of those teachers where like they're nice to the class and then you
do some weird thing and they're like and you're just like holy shit oh it's you can watch it it's
real good and and then the reaction shot of sue straw she's like this
And then the reaction shot of Sue Straw, she's like this.
But my face and my fingers.
Okay, so then on March 30th, 1988, Judy Buenoano is put to death in the electric chair.
She's the second woman in Florida state history to have been put to death in the electric chair.
Her last meal... Oh, dear.
This is going to... For me,
not to minimize
the insane human loss in this story,
but for me, this is one of the most upsetting
parts of the story.
Her last meal was a salad of
broccoli, tomato, and asparagus.
Go fuck yourself.
Fuck you, Judy.
That's not a fucking salad to begin with.
Yeah.
That's an array of fucking gross things
that nobody wants to eat.
Asparagus?
Like, what?
What, are you just going to chew
on a bunch of asparagus for an hour?
Oh, and she had hot tea.
Fuck off.
God. God.
Just my natural enemy, this woman.
And she also told a reporter she was looking forward to seeing the face of Jesus.
Uh-oh, Judy, bad news.
It don't work like that, baby.
She was actually seeing the fingers of the devil.
In reality, not the face of jesus
jesus is like i'm not gonna be there for you she told um and i don't know if it was sustra or
another reporter but she did tell a reporter before it happened obviously before that happened
but um but like a while before
when she was asked, she said her final words are going to be via condios. Um, but on the
actual day when she got walked to the chair, uh, and they asked her if she had any final
words, she said, no, sir. Now here's a poem written by Judy Bueno-Año.
Ready?
Everyone close your eyes.
Everyone close your eyes.
I just want to soak this in.
Masks by Judy Bueno-Año.
Are you closing your eyes?
Close your eyes.
Don't be fooled by me.
Don't be fooled by the face I wear.
For I wear a thousand masks.
Masks I'm afraid to take off and none of
them are me pretending is an art that's second nature to me but don't be fooled
for God's sake don't be fooled
that's Judy Bueno Anyo everybody everybody. Oh, shit! Shit! That's okay, do it!
Do it! Not there.
There.
Is that her?
Oh my god,
she's like, bitch, please. Look at her.
She's like,
seriously, go fuck yourself if you think
I'm guilty.
She's like, hot tea and vegetables,
motherfucker.
I love tomatoes so much.
Tomatoes. Wait, I think there might be one more.
There's also really good
footage of her glaring
when witnesses would come up and
testify against her, she would be glaring
at them. She's got, she has
very small eyebrows
and kind of beady eyes.
Oh. Oh.
Oh.
That's what she looked like when Sue Straw
interviewed her much later on.
I see her snapping.
Bye Judy.
Bye Judy.
Good one.
I love this.
I know.
Thank you.
These are fun.
We're firing Steven and hiring these little clickers.
We're not really going to do that.
That was great.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
Thank you for that.
It's all Judy.
Judy, Judy, Judy.
All right.
This is ladies night.
Oh.
Florida. Florida.
Y'all ready for your girl, Eileen Wuornos?
Oh, shit!
I feel like it's very important to say right now for the employees of the Hard Rock Cafe
and any partners or loved ones that are here
that have never listened,
we are not cheering for a serial killer.
That's not what's happening.
This screaming, except for Whisper County,
this is not
for murder.
It's about knowing
about her.
It's about staying up at night and scaring
the living shit out of yourself, reading
about what she did, and
finally you're not alone
while you're going to be hearing about it.
This is one of those, oh, this was from January 2nd, 1992,
when I stayed up all fucking night after watching Dateline because of this murder.
I saw her picture and I stopped plucking my eyebrows.
There's just a lot of emotional connection.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
This is a rough run because on one hand, you have,
as a female, you have so much empathy for her until she starts really murdering people and
then it's gone. So it's a tricky situation. As life is. It is. So between November 1989 and
November 1990, Eileen Wuornos killed seven men along the highways of Central Florida.
Let's start in Rochester, Michigan, though.
Okay.
So, Eileen Wuornos was born in Rochester, Michigan, February 1956.
Her mom, Diane, was 14 years old when she gets married to the dad.
They have a son named Keith when she's 15.
Eileen when she's 16.
Can you fucking imagine?
Think of yourself when you're 14 years old
having a fucking baby.
Nope.
I could barely handle Doritos.
I couldn't manage them
alone.
I had to have them taken out of my hand.
I still have to say, take these away from
me to Vince when I'm eating something.
And at 14.
Ugh.
Yeah. Alright. So that's
where we're starting. It's hard. Okay. We're starting
there. Let's fucking do it. Oh, do you want to see a photo
of her when she's a little girl?
I know.
Isn't she pretty?
It's so fucking dark.
Yeah.
Thank you, lighting person.
I know.
Someone's on it.
Like paying attention.
Well, we are at the Hard Rock fucking cafe.
I know.
I mean, they're like, yeah, we do this every night.
Yeah.
This isn't the last resort bar we'll get to that later
oh shit no offense because i want to go party at the last resort bar so bad okay okay eileen's
father let's hear about him uh two months before eileen is born he's incarcerated he's diagnosed
as schizophrenic later convicted of raping and kidnapping a seven-year-old girl.
Don't worry, he hangs himself in prison when she's 12 years old.
She never meets him.
Oh, my God.
I know.
It's weird.
Again, they're not clapping about, you know.
January 1960, when Eileen's almost four years old, the mom, Diane, abandons them, the kids,
leaves them with their grandparents,
they legally adopt her. And I think it's one of those situations where she didn't know that until
she was older.
Eileen, so a lot of this stuff
is, everyone
in her past is dead, all the men
that she killed can't say exactly
what happened, so it's all based on her own
story, so we don't know
completely what's true,
but there is a lot of, um, cooperation based on the kids she grew up with. So she says that her
alcoholic grandfather sexually assaulted her, beat her when she was a child. Um, and by age 11,
she starts engaging in sexual activities in exchange for cigarettes and drugs and food.
activities in exchange for cigarettes and drugs and food.
She also engages
in sexual activities with her brother.
Yeah.
And then so
they would hang out, all the burnouts
would hang out and I'm sure you had a place like this
in Sacramento because I fucking had a place like this
in Irvine, California.
So the pits.
And it was like in the forest
the fucking like just the was like in the forest, the fucking, like, just the gross area
where the burnouts would hang out.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
Did you have one of those?
Can I tell you?
Well, it's Petaluma.
Yeah.
And we called it The Rock.
And it was this,
there was a hill behind like a convalescent hospital.
Great.
You'd pull into the parking lot
and then you'd walk up this hill
for like a half a mile.
And then there was just a rock
that we'd all go sit on and drink like fucking keystone light or whatever well it turned out
and i never put it together the rock was in i could see my house from the rock i could see
like my parents watching tv from there but it was like it was like i would say half a mile away um
finally one time my sister goes yeah we can hear you guys every word you guys
say out there because there's nothing between the rock and my parents house should we be out there
just like fucking voices carry and they're just like they heard they knew exactly what we were
doing and they knew exactly what we were talking about the entire time that's so smart it's kind
of genius i mean not on our part no stupid you get home and your mom's like i know you were eating
doritos yeah and you had to have them taken away from you karen that's actually when i got caught
smoking cloves she yeah because because i was soh. Because you smelled like a fucking spice cabinet?
Yeah, she's like, hey, hey Christmas ham, what's up?
But she came in, she did the classic, you know, psychiatric nurse move on me.
She held up the clothes that she found in my pocket when she was doing the laundry.
And she goes, you can smoke these if you want, but they put glass in them and they cut
your lungs. Which is a
fucking straight up lie. But I
never smoked a clove again after that.
It's not fun when your mom's like, go ahead.
I'm doing shit. What you fucking do.
Like, oh, well I was doing this.
She cared.
She wanted you to quit.
Okay, so she'd hang out with them.
She said that she, you know, there was a lot of sexual activity going on, that she was
raped, and later people from the town in this documentary I was watching said that she was
treated very badly.
Yeah.
Oh, here's a photo of her at like 14 years old.
Which is like, oh, she kind of looks like me when I was that age, like the skinny kind
of awkward nerd.
Oh.
I know.
Okay.
Did she have her own boat?
What?
Life really sucked, but she did have her own boat.
Lucky.
1970, at age 14, she gets pregnant, possibly by a friend of the family, an older man.
She gives birth to a boy in a home for unwed mothers, and the child's placed for adoption.
Goodbye.
Sorry, you said she was 14?
Yeah.
Just like her mom?
Yeah.
That's insane.
A few months later, she drops out of school.
Her grandmother dies.
Her grandfather kicks her out of the house.
So she's supporting herself as a sex worker,
lives in the woods for a while, then
hits the fucking road at 16,
hitchhikes around the country for five years.
Where's that baby?
Adopted. Oh, good, good.
And I don't, yeah.
She ends up, eventually, in 1976
in Daytona Beach, Florida.
Here she is.
Okay.
She meets a 69-year-old yacht club president
named Louis Grants Fell.
She marries him.
I think she's 22 at this time.
She's 22.
He's 69.
That's fine.
No.
They're just grossed out by this,
what is it, something December romance?
Oh, May-December, yeah.
They don't like love, it turns out.
Apparently not.
So, but she's still getting in confrontation.
She's kind of a brawler.
She's had it totally shit all her life. And all she knows is hitchhiking and fucking staying alive.
Yeah.
So they are fighting all the time.
She kind of loses it all the time.
She has these bursts of anger,
and she eventually hits him with his own cane.
Oh.
And he gets a restraining order against her.
Their marriage is annulled after only nine weeks.
I'm just picturing Anna Nicole Smith's wedding picture.
But slightly different looks.
Yes, that's exactly what it's like.
Picture Anna Nicole Smith a little methier.
Okay.
He's a little bit younger.
Kind of like snazzy.
He's got his yachting cap on. He's kind of rich.
Okay. So it's Thurston Howell III?
Yes! Yes!
And meth Anna Nicole Smith. Horrible. It'sell III. Yes, yes. And Ann. And Ann Meth, Anna Nicole Smith.
Horrifying.
It's not nice.
It's not funny at all.
Okay, so then her brother, Keith, dies of throat cancer.
Devastating to her.
They're actually really close.
He was kind of, yeah, it's weird.
It's a weird relationship, obviously.
Oh.
Probably.
Same brother? Yeah. Yeah. Then's a weird relationship, obviously. Oh. Probably. Same brother?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then her grandfather dies from apparent suicide,
so she's on her fucking own.
Yeah.
After her divorce, she has tons of run-ins with the law.
She's arrested for drunk driving,
Florida prison for armed robbery.
She robs a liquor store in a bikini.
robbery. She robs a liquor store in a bikini.
The inspiration for the film Spring Breakers.
There you go.
She does it in a bikini.
She gets the fuck out, drives away.
Her car breaks down down the road. She gets caught.
She
I know that she ends up being a very bad
person, but she also has the worst fucking
luck of all time, it sounds like.
She is not mentally stable.
Right.
Clearly.
Bikini paroled in 1983, returns to sex work.
Around 1986, she meets what would become really the love of her life,
24-year-old Tyra Moore.
They meet at a Daytona Beach gay bar.
She's a hotel maid.
In the movie Monster, she's played by Christina Ricci.
She does not look like Christina Ricci.
That was a stretch.
Even when they cut all of Christina Ricci's hair off,
she does not look like Christina Ricci.
But she's like a cute young thing.
You know what I mean?
Youth gives everyone good looks.
They meet and Tyra's a lesbian.
And weirdly, Eileen's not really a lesbian.
She just finally has someone who loves her for who she is. Yes, she wants to be loved.
Yeah.
For Christ's sake.
She has someone who wants to stick by her.
She has someone she can take care of.
It almost seems like that's what she always needed.
Because she had had relationships with men
in the past that were all disastrous, et cetera, et cetera.
They go home that night together, and they move in together.
And Eileen is really controlling over her, so she makes her quit her job, and she said
she's going to earn money with sex work to take care of her.
And Tyra didn't approve of it, but you know what I mean.
Okay.
take care of her. And Tyra didn't approve of it, but you know what I mean. Okay. So there's a book called Dear Dawn, Warnos in her own words. So this chick, Dawn Botkins, was her best friend from when
she was a teenager. And when Eileen ends up in prison, she just sends her like four letters a day
of like, it's crazy stuff, but they published a book about it. Um, so she,
she says to Dawn that when she was in a gay relationship, she starts getting triggered by
all these awful things that are happening to them because it's, um, Florida in the mid eighties,
lesbians, you know, not allowed, not allowed. So they say, like, one of the neighbors kills their pets
because they're lesbians living together.
And she said it fueled the fire within.
They couldn't find a place to live.
No one would let them live there together.
And if they did, they'd, like, raise their rent really high
because they were lesbians.
So Eileen feels like she has to hustle.
She carries a gun with her.
And she's just really unstable.
She starts hitchhiking, and she starts stealing from people.
Okay, so this is when her first murder takes place.
November 30th, 1989, in Clearwater,
Richard Mallory, he's a 51-year-old electronics repairman. He picks Eileen up outside of Tampa.
She's just hitchhiking.
Then she propositions to him.
He agrees.
They pull off the road, and they drink and talk until dawn,
which is so weird.
And again, this is all based on her telling what happened.
Obviously, we don't know.
Eventually, she shoots him four times in the chest and the back.
She takes his money, hides him in the woods under a carpet,
and takes his car back to Tyra.
She tells Tyra that she killed this dude and took his car.
Tyra's like, I didn't believe her.
So she says.
I mean, no.
Tells her she doesn't believe her.
Then two weeks later, Richard's body is found in a wooded area in, and I wrote
this phonetically, Volusia County. Thanks. Now, isn't Volusia in the Middle East somewhere?
After a six-month break after killing Richard Mallory,
on June 1, 1990, the body of David Spears,
a 43-year-old construction worker in Winter Garden,
is found...
There's a lot of cities here.
Get ready to cheer for your city.
Or any city you've ever heard of.
He's found nude along Floridaida state road 19 in citrus
county he's been shot six times then june 6 1990 um charles uh carscadden he's 40 part-time rodeo
workers bodies found in pascal county he's been shot nine times with a.22.
1990, Peter Symes leaves Jupiter, Florida for Arkansas.
He is 65, retired merchant seaman who devoted much of his time to Christian outreach ministry.
On July 4th, 1990, his car is found in Orange Springs, Florida.
On July 4th, 1990, his car is found in Orange Springs, Florida.
And then so Tyra and Eileen are seen abandoning his car.
And after they accidentally get in a car accident.
Oh, again?
She has so much car trouble.
Making a car accident.
Like people are like, hey, can we help you?
And they're like, nope.
And just run into the fucking wilderness. Because they're like, this this car she pries the license plate out with her bare fucking hands
and they book it from this car and the family's just standing there ma'am ma'am are you okay
yeah yeah and so they're like well here's what she looked like and they and at this point they're
like what we don't know why all these men are turning up dead
with the same gun.
They kind of know there's a serial killer
at this point going on.
So they find out the car has come from this guy
who went missing.
So they have their photos and the drawings
and the paper at this point.
And they get Eileen's fingerprints off the car which were on file because she'd gotten
in so much trouble before. Remember the bikini incident? So they're looking for her at this point.
So then she kills Troy Burris, he's 50 years old sausage salesman from... Ocala? Fuck! Ocala.
What'd they say?
Ocala.
You were able to get Ocala out of that?
Because I knew it was one of two things.
Okay.
And I knew that I was probably going to get it wrong.
They should put accents over these vowels that are so important.
I mean... It would be nice.
And then on July...
So he, on July 31st, 1990, he's reported missing.
And then on August 4th, 1990, his body is found in a wooded area along State Road 19 in Marion County.
He's been shot twice.
Charles Dick Humphrey, 56, September 11th, 1990, retired U.S. Air Force major,
former state child abuse investigator.
Oh.
force major, former state child abuse investigator,
and
former chief of police.
On September 12, 1990,
his body was found in Marion County.
He was fully clothed, had been shot six times
in the head and torso,
and his car was later found in
Suwannee County.
No.
Seems like you did it right.
Or not enough people care about that.
They're like, just say what you want.
We don't like that place that much anyways.
Walter Antonio, age 62.
He's a trucker, security guard, police reservist.
November 19th, 1990.
His nearly nude body is found near a remote logging road in Dixie County.
He'd been shot four times.
Five days later, his car is found as well.
So then, finally, they're looking for her.
They track her down to a biker bar in Port Orange
called The Last Resort.
Yelped it.
Still there.
For real?
Oh, hell yeah.
And there's a picture on the wall that said,
like, Eileen Warnoos had her last beer here.
Like, they're into it.
After party.
You guys in?
That's kind of nice.
There's a bar somewhere that's like us.
A whole bar full of drunks that's just like, they were like, check this shit out.
Are you freaking out?
I'm freaking out.
Let's all freak out.
It's so good.
Yeah.
Okay.
So they grab her.
They find Tyra, who at this point was like, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
Hadn't gone back home.
She, they find her and they're like, listen, we don't think you did anything.
So you need to get a confession
and we won't prosecute you so she's like all right calls are they like have all these calls
from the fucking motel finally eileen's like i'll confess so you don't get in trouble for it
so she did do help right it was like aiding and abetting she i think that she only she said she
only knew about the one that the first one and she didn't
believe Eileen. She didn't
believe the other 18?
She says Eileen did them on her own never told
her about them. She was just getting cars
and money that's all she knew about she thought she was stealing them.
But wasn't she there when they ran into the woods
after they got into the car accident?
Yeah but she said this car is stolen we gotta get the fuck out of here.
You know what I mean?
I just don't buy it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Eileen ends up confessing to all the murders in detail,
but she, along with the help of her defense,
claims they were all in self-defense,
that all the men had attacked her
and tried to rape her and kill her.
Except she shot them six to nine times.
Yeah.
And a lot of them were clothed.
There was no, I don't know.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
So then the fucking trial blows up.
Do you remember it?
Yes.
It got huge, right?
And people are trying to make money left and right off for books and movies.
Even like some of the cops are like trying to get movie deals out of it.
And then this woman named Arlene Prail, she's like, I just saw her on TV and I needed to,
I knew she was innocent. And I don't know if she's Southern and I needed to be friends with her. It's the best voice. Yeah. I just knew in my heart that Jesus, you know, whatever.
And she's like, and I needed to know her and I think they had money. So she was going to like help her with, but she's like, and I needed to know her. And I think they had money, so she was going to help her with.
But she's like, and I wanted to talk to her.
But the only way they could get into prison to talk to her was if you were related to her.
So she and her husband adopts her.
What the fuck?
Can I tell you how excited I was when I heard that today in the hotel?
Yes. I was just like, they're going I heard that today in the hotel? Yes.
I was just like, they're going to love that part.
Adopts her.
And this woman, not surprisingly, turns out to be a fucking crazy person
and ends up making like $50,000 off of like,
wants to do like an art show to like put up all of Eileen's drawings and stuff,
is selling all this shit to the media.
And Eileen later is like, fuck that bitch.
Picks her out of her fucking life.
It's almost like a bad version of the blind side.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, if the blind side
was a fucked up, super dark, like,
oh, that sucks.
Bless her heart.
Bless her heart, though.
Okay, so
Eileen is, and you see these videos of her and there's just she's clearly
a million different people she's so crazy sometimes and so sympathetic and sad sometimes
she takes the the psychopathy checklist test thing which means which if you get 30 points, you're legally a psychopath or whatever.
And she gets 32.
Yes. She passed.
She fucking nailed that shit. She passed the test.
Eileen, it's the first time that you
succeeded in your life.
They didn't like that.
They really didn't.
Whose fucking side are you on?
They turned
on you, man.
You're right. You're right. She Whose fucking side are you on? I didn't turn on you, man. I know.
No, you're right, you're right.
She is diagnosed with borderline and antisocial personality disorder.
And her love of her life, Tyra,
ends up testifying against her.
Yeah, which she just like,
I don't think she realized
that she was turning on her like that.
So, yeah.
And then she gets sentenced to death.
Convicted in 19-year-old first-degree murder.
Sentenced to death.
Says to the jury as they're walking out,
I hope you all get raped.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
You can't say that.
No.
That's fucking horrible. Yeah. You can't say that. No. That's fucking horrible.
Yeah.
And she says that when they convict her and then the next day they have to go back in for sentencing.
And she's like, shit.
Probably like, have you noticed the borderline thing?
Yeah.
That's what happened yesterday.
Today I'm fine.
Don't be mad about that rape thing. Don't be was just upset i take it back i'm really i can be that
way sometimes that's like when you like stand up at a table and like tell people off and walk out
and then you're like i'm sorry i didn't get my purse i left my purse on the chair. Have you done that? Oh, Eileen. I know.
Come on.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Stop it.
That's cheap comedy, and I don't want you to support me in it.
Please.
Horrifying.
So after almost 20 years in solitary lockdown,
on July 1st, 2001, at the age...
Okay, when she was convicted, she was 36 years old.
Hi, that's a year younger than me.
If you see these photos of her, you're like,
damn, that could be my adopted mother.
Fuck. Okay.
Did she do math and stuff?
No, really?
Oh, yeah.
She was an extreme alcoholic.
Okay.
She says a lot of these things were done in blackouts.
Alcoholic, yeah, meth, meth-y meth.
I gotta say, though, as a blackout alcoholic,
I didn't get anything done.
So, the idea that you'd be like,
propositioning a guy, getting him to then pull over,
have some drinks and talk about,
shoot him seven fucking times,
like drag him to the woods.
Yeah.
Wrap him in a rug.
That's not happening.
Okay, that's nice to hear
because I always thought
like maybe I'm just a bad blackout drunk.
No.
Because I don't black out often,
but if I do,
it's because I fell the fuck asleep.
Yeah.
Is that blacking out?
With like a weird taco on your chest
or something,
or you're just like, oh, I wanted to have that at the time, and now it'sing out with like a weird taco on your chest or something or you're just like oh i wanted to have that at the time and now it's gross just a taco from jack in
the box i guess is what i'm thinking weird taco or the one a good taco like not a you didn't go
to the taco truck and get a good taco you were just like or the one that they have now with the
egg is the taco that's a weird taco what is it it? It's like a fucking, I just, I keep spitting.
I spit so much this whole time.
It's like an, you don't want to know.
What?
It's like an egg, like a, let's say a hard, or a fried egg.
And then they used a fried egg as the taco shell.
What for?
For breakfast taco.
I don't understand.
I've only seen photos.
It's Taco Bell, I think.
Is this like a...
It's Taco Bell?
Yeah, it's like their breakfast.
Taco Bell cannot make eggs.
That should not be legal.
That shouldn't...
They can't handle that.
It's also like, whenever you see like an egg in like...
Oh, it's not scrambled.
You're like, oh, it's a real egg.
I know where this came from.
Like, what did they do to that egg to make it look like
it's in a real thing? It's fucking sawdust
that's dyed white or something.
How many people
are going to die because of eggs at Taco Bell?
Like thousands and thousands.
They're like, oh, we forgot to put those ones
in the refrigerator. For nine
months. Now they're
babies. We thought they kept. We thought they kept.
We thought they kept.
Okay.
Shit.
We should,
I feel like from now on
at the top of this show,
we should go over
any new fast food
that I haven't heard of.
Because my mind
is fucking blown right now.
Yesterday,
when we were in Tampa,
and I was telling Karen,
you've been there.
You have an active serial killer.
I was telling Karen and everyone else here,
the audience, about a murder that happened in Lando Lakes,
and Karen lost her fucking mind.
I didn't know that was a real place where the butter came from.
I didn't know that was a real place where the butter came from. I didn't either.
I became legitimately starstruck
by a city that produces butter.
I'm not putting you down
because I didn't know
until I was doing my research
and I was like,
what?
That's crazy.
It's just,
oh, God bless it. There are good things that happen in this world also. It's just, oh, God bless it. There are
good things that happen in this world also.
It's just nice to remember
that there's a
lake filled with butter somewhere in Florida.
I love that. I love that.
Put that on the positivity board.
Put it on the positivity board next
time. That won't get
you fired. Probably.
Don't forget Land O'Lakes, everybody.
Edward, get in here now.
Stop using the positivity
board.
It was Edward. Yeah.
Good.
So, after
almost 20 years solitary
fucking lockdown. That's
awful. Yeah. Writing Dawn
crazy fucking letters for four days four times a
day and these are bananas letters sometimes they're coherent sometimes they're not it's really
fucking sad like for a moment i hadn't really read about a lot of this and for a moment i felt really
bad for her and then i was like oh wait a minute she fucking killed a bunch of people in cold blood
for no fucking reason yeah okay got it, okay, at the age of 45,
she goes up to the state and is like,
can we stop it with the mandated appeals?
And can you just kill me?
No.
She's like, I'm sick of all the fucking taxpayer money
going to this.
It's bullshit.
And they were like, hey, remember when you said
you wanted us to be raped?
The answer's no.
Well, she was like, hey, remember when you said you wanted us to be raped? The answer's no. Well, she was like, people, every time that I get, that the appeals get overturned, some
fucking bigwig politician gets like his bump because he fucking, you know, keeps her in
and that's the guy who's hard on crime and like she's kind of over it and crazy.
Yeah, clearly.
So she says, look, bros,
the murders weren't self-defense.
I fucking killed them
because I robbed them
and I didn't want any witnesses.
So they're like, okay, let's do it.
And so at the, I'm paraphrasing,
at the case you were like,
what happened to our legal system?
Well, and because that in and of itself could be a lie.
I mean, like, it's such a great area.
And she took it back later, but.
I don't know how to feel about her.
I know.
The age of 46 years old, October 9th, 2002, she is put to death.
She said on the stand when she's doing this thing I'd kill again
I have hate crawling through my system
and that's it
2002
that's Eileen your girl
Eileen Wuornos
wow
she had it real bad
but there's lots of people that have it real bad.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
That is the thing.
Yeah.
Who wants a jewelry box?
We don't have one.
We have time for a quick hometown.
We do, too.
Tell them the rules.
There's rules.
They're really quick.
Let's just do some rules really quick.
It would be nice if the hometown that you have is from Florida.
It's just more fun, right?
Because then other people can yell
at whatever city you name.
It's good if you're not so drunk that you lose your own place
and your own story.
But that's up to you.
And you can't read off paper.
Those are the rules.
So with that in mind, it's George's night to you. And you can't read off paper. Those are the rules. So with that in mind, it's Georgia's night to pick.
I hate this.
Don't torture them.
Okay.
You, right there.
Oh, my God.
Uh-oh.
Okay, go over there, Vince.
Vince is right over there.
Here, bring him his sunglasses.
How are you going to get out? Yeah, just come over
this. Oh, can she climb over the chair? Yeah, let her come over.
Oh my God. Yeah, save some time.
Yes.
I love this. Yes.
Right down there. Thank you.
Thank you for that. I saw her face
when you went, you can't be that. She was raising her hand
and then you go, you can't be that drunk. And she goes, that's me. Like, she got so excited that she wasn't that drunk. I saw her face when you went, you can't be that. She was raising her hand. Then you go, you can't be that drunk.
And she goes, that's me.
Like she got so excited that she wasn't that drunk.
I'm right on the verge.
Where'd she go?
Uh-oh.
Vince is like, go get my sunglasses.
So much pressure.
Where'd she go?
There she comes.
I see shadows.
She's partying backstage.
Uh-oh. Come on, honey She's partying backstage. Uh oh.
Come on, honey, get out here.
Yay!
Hi.
Hi.
Hi, guys.
Hi, what's your name?
I'm Kristen.
Kristen?
Kristen, this is Kristen.
Come over here.
Stand on the magic rug.
Okay, yeah.
Here we go, where are you from?
Here, Orlando.
Orlando.
Nice, hometown. Nice. Okay. So, uh, this one is about my mom's
best friend when she was like 20, 21. Um, she went over to her best friend, Catherine's house
because they were planning her wedding. Cause she was engaged. Catherine, she was engaged to this
guy, um, named Keith. And when they went over there, Catherine was missing because
she had I guess gone get hair dye or something. But she never came back. She's cops come and
they have found her body in the trunk of the car. She's been beaten and stabbed. And it turns out, I'm going to make it pretty short.
It turns out that her fiancé, Catherine's fiancé, Keith's best friend, Danny,
actually really hated Catherine and was in love with Keith.
Oh, shit.
Oh, fuck.
This is a new one.
Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, but it gets even better well not better worse worse worse you guys get it definitely worse definitely worse yeah definitely worse um
well it turns out that he used to like make our danny used to make fun of katherine all the time
because apparently we find out what happens yeah but he
also used to call her the lazy pig like he would call her a lazy pig all the time that's not a fun
they found her car behind a restaurant called the lazy pig no is that here in Orlando or not
any longer but yes it was what kind of restaurant was it? I'm going to go with barbecue. Barbecue. I don't know.
Wow.
Makes sense.
That's good.
Deduction.
Yeah.
He did that on purpose?
Yeah.
No, it was a total message sent.
They actually did not find out it was him until a really long time after.
Jeff Ashton, he was part of the casey anthony oh yeah he
he um he started a whole cold case thing in orlando and she was actually the very first
cold case that they solved wow so it wasn't until a long time after but like what we got our guy
yeah how many years was it um i want to say probably a good 15. Oh, wow.
Because this happened in the early 70s,
and they didn't find out until more towards the late 80s.
Wow.
Can you imagine this whole time,
your friend's like, Keith's like fucking crying,
and his friend's helping him,
and then it turned out to be him.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah, because he was, like you said,
he was consoling and everything.
What a creep.
Yeah. That's creep yeah and it was
like definitely like a passion murder like and what was her name Catherine Catherine
which is what really matters yeah exactly wow that's that was horrifying yeah the lazy pig
part is what creeps me out lazy pig is the fucking worst yeah oh man you would have loved that
jewelry box I feel bad now.
Because I was like, what if we give it to someone
and they're like, I don't want this shit.
And I was like, she would love it.
This is pretty cool. I'm good with this.
Kristen, everybody.
That was great.
So good.
Should we give her Vince's sunglasses
as a gift?
That was awesome.
Yeah, wow.
Well done.
Lazy pig.
Keep your eyes peeled for the friend of the boyfriend that's a dick to you.
Yes.
There's always something.
Boys, don't let your friends be dicks to your girlfriends.
And mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
I would say that's more important.
That's a better...
Don't you think?
Fuck, Orlando.
I mean that...
Thank you.
I feel like that went so fast.
It did.
That went really fast.
What a fucking incredible show.
Thank you so much for getting tickets, standing in line, doing all this.
Yeah, thank you for having us.
Florida was not the state
that I didn't want to go to.
I wanted to come here
because you guys
just have so many murders.
Yeah, I mean...
So excited.
It's crazy.
The choices.
It was an embarrassment
of riches.
Yeah.
Oh, now you guys
have to let Kristen sit down.
But as she passes,
tell her what a great job
she did.
Great job.
We really appreciate you guys all being here,
mostly because you are enabling us to have this be our only job,
which is fucking nuts.
And a dream come true.
We're so lucky.
Thank you guys for supporting us through this whole insane fucking thing
that's been happening.
It's crazy.
And thank you for being here with us. And stay
sexy. And don't get
out.
Bye, guys. Thank you.