My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - MFM Minisode 11

Episode Date: November 22, 2016

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you get fucking weird you got to tell me a story tell me a story first person first hand well it doesn't have to be first person yeah and it would make people lie I murdered someone once listen I have to confess in an email we'll get a confession one day we will from an anonymous email address for your birthday June 8th guys get ready don't kill someone now so you can confess something no we don't want it all pre-planned like that no that's boring that's not the kind of murder she likes anyway I refuse to read about it well just ignore your murder so last week we did hometown murders and one of the murders was by a girl named Mary and she told us that she listens on her way to work in the morning and because

of that her puppy listens to it on the way to work every morning because he comes with her to work every day and then I was like pictures please and she emailed us pictures of her labradoodle that's the cutest thing I've ever seen Winston are you gonna put them on the Instagram page I guess I should let everybody see that okay it made me really happy yes she said she attempted to make him a costume for Halloween of a giant teddy bear but he ate it perfect did she make it out of beef jerky because that is never gonna wear he she made it out of cat he also harasses the cat and attempt to be friends but she barely tolerates him thanks for sending that Mary I can't believe there are those I've

seen a couple where there's like cat and dogs living together that are just fine how is it possible dude they beat that dog my dogs would never stop barking out there as a cat in my house oh they would they would just eat the instinct is to chase I think it's just a very this is my inner species relationships aren't my fucking joy okay so like anytime you see animals cuddling just send it to me that aren't that aren't the same animal you like a duck and a go to friends sure okay dog and cat whatever there's a lot of good dog and hacky though I know but let's get a llama and a snake let's get interesting I mean I lose my mind two snakes is okay it's fun you know how sweet they are there

says sweet sweet somebody actually wrote to us saying they wanted to hear more about my dogs because we talk about your cat we never talk about your dog because they're fiercely private and they do not want to be involved in this podcast at all I understand yeah they just don't want their lives out there for everybody sure well if we recorded at your house we would talk a lot more about them but we don't record at your house because of that if we recorded at my house we would hear them the entire time and we would be covered in dog hair head to toe so it's best everything the way it is is as it should be let's get their names a shout out if you want okay socks and bunny see I'm protecting their

privacy George and Frank I've actually tweeted pictures of them before George's some kind of a lab mix that looks really good at the dog park because she's yellow but then the dog park is all green so she's really photo in a really good picture but you know those are good dog names George and Frank George and Frank George Lopez is her full name bring them over here and we'll videotape them the day you move out sorry but we just talked about I brought home I brought Frank home for Christmas last year and made the mistake my George is the first dog I got and then my friend found Frank on the street in Highline Park and and so I wanted George to have a pet friend but Frank is a bit of the streets

and so I brought him up to Petaloma for Christmas left him at my sister's house one night while we went to my aunt's for Christmas Eve and when we came home he had freaked out so bad that the door jam around the front door he had basically eaten away holy shit and my sister like hey there goes your deposit yeah well she she's my who I don't know anyone who wants to home so I'm like in my hometown everyone has a house right right but anyway it was hilarious it was like oh I didn't know that about him because he's never done that in my house because he has a buddy normally yeah no yeah he freaked out dude that's so funny yeah that's awful more stories like this and I mean you asked for it so you got

it this has become a cat and dog podcast goodbye sorry can I pet your dog and per cast because we're coming at you um let's just some hometowns okay because I'll tell you that when I opened up our email and it's kind of unfair because these are the this is new I know first page and you find 10 good ones I promise though I'm going to start reading these from that from the bottom up I'm going to do this goodbye goodbye um because I don't have a job right now cool okay and I am going a little bit crazy being unemployed it doesn't suit me no it's doesn't suit it's not no it's not conducive to fucking 80d right or alcoholism um but I here's I open my email and here was an email from K that said head in a portable toilet

where I used to play murder whoa whoa Elvis I was like he loves the story he's like I know this one oh my god I heard about this okay hi ladies love the podcast thank you for bringing comedy into a typically dark subject especially post-election I know a lot of people appreciate being able to laugh despite the fear of unknown in the next four years that's putting it lightly I mean anyway I have been delaying sharing hometown murder but after catching up on all the episodes I felt the time was right to share mine I was hoping this subject line would grab your attention while you were fucking exactly right K I grew up in st. Charles Missouri about 20 miles west of st. Louis a quiet place not a lot

of crime in the late 80s early 90s my grandmother lived near a college lindenwood university there was a park across the street from her house where my sisters cousins and I would play regularly without much supervision my mom typical warrior mom was always nervous something would happen to us while my grandmother was just like oh no nothing can happen here and then this we were older by the time this murder occurred but it was scary nonetheless knowing we used to play where the body was found in April of 1998 13 year old Tiffany Sabrin was babysitting her two younger brothers and went missing her headless nearly nude body was found a few weeks later along the pathway near a pond near the university by a student

a few days later after a few days after her body was found her head in a port by a pot in a port a potty nearby that's the awful list it's so aggressive yeah there's so much rage there just just fucking disrespect yeah anger it's horrible oh yeah um bloodhounds were brought in uh from out of state to trace her scent for clues and led to a shallow pond nearby where the divers found a bloody bed sheet um flat top sheet wow good boy uh yeah right the sheet Frank could never do that um the sheet was shared on the news and a guy who went to the university thought that the sheet looked similar to his roommates white sheets with seagulls cutting through brown circles what a fucking idiot yeah yeah distinctive

sheets like stop by Ikea and get a fucking pack of they're like 199 yeah i'm not trying to tell you how to do your job he wasn't a planning not trying to tell you how to do your job of murder um wasn't a planner roommate who had disappeared from college from campus since the murder thing ding ding so college guy goes back to his dorm and lo and behold his roommates flat sheet was missing but matching fitted sheet and pillowcases were there police came caught the guy I love this guy which is right which is good reminder to always know what kind of sheets your roommates have turns out the murderer Jason Shipman was walking by Tiffany's neighborhood and invited her to his dorm room he was 21 and she was 13

that's creepy enough and apparently she went with them they talked and she told him she needed to go back home on the way on the walk back he slid her throat raped her and stabbed her and he then cut off her head took it to the porta potting nearby got his bed sheet moved her body to the pond this case definitely rocked her a quiet town and is a good reminder to don't go to creepy guy's dorms with bad sheets you can't know what the sheets look like until you know we have but still yes now I live in LA and if we ever do an LA murder Reno meetup would love to have you wonderful ladies for drinks no could you meet me outside in the parking lot stay sexy don't get murdered thanks for being you okay oh man that was

amazing that was great when I think about and I do think about this sometimes like the people I used to talk to when I was younger oh dude like psycho I thought you know like you know when you see the cute crazy guy when you're like 17 yeah and he's like older and you love older guys because you don't realize it's fucking creepy if an older guy wants to date a 17 year old yes like the amount of fucking people I was alone with yeah and trust and like blindly trusting because you didn't know the difference no yeah it's great and also when you're 13 it's that weird age where like everything gets kind of awkward and ugly and you all your friends and the guys in your class start acting weird yeah

attention from an older guy totally huge it would be amazing yeah and it's I would I would have been so susceptible to that I've gone I'm going through my head of like all the times I should have probably been murdered and wasn't just because they didn't murder me that day yeah it should make you feel good oh yeah I feel great all right what makes a person a murderer are they born to kill or are they made to kill I'm Candace DeLong and on my new podcast killer psyche daily I share a quick 10 minute rundown every week day on the motivations and behaviors of the criminal masterminds psychopaths and cold blooded killers you hear about in the news I have decades of experience as a psychiatric

nurse FBI agent and criminal profiler on killer psyche daily I'll give you insight into cases like Ryan Grantham and the newly arrested Stockton serial killer I'll also bring on expert guests to dive deeper into the details share what it's like to work with a behavioral assessment unit at Quantico answer some killer trivia and even host virtual Q&A's where I'll answer your burning questions hey Prime members listen to the Amazon music exclusive podcast killer psyche daily in the Amazon music app download the app today this is from Kevin and just to make everyone feel better it's a boring subject and I but I like them anyways all right wait what it just says Brent Springfield is the title of this subject line

yeah I thought you meant the murder yeah no it's a boring murder ready let's log through this thing I found I just found your podcast and I'm already obsessed I've been a true crime fanatic for ages I will watch snapped for hours and hours tell me about it yeah I went to college in Tennessee and I'm a guy and a guy on my freshman hall had been a close friend of mine he was from an affluent family in Alabama I just want to say this guy's testing me because he keeps putting just the initials of the fucking state and because you know I'm bad oh yeah but I think I'm right so far you are and also it's just making you panic it is that moment of you just have the panic but just ride out the panic and you'll

be right and no one else can see these letters only I can so they don't know no you say any state you want sorry Kevin and we ended up joining the same fraternity freshman year when he needed a ride to Asheville over Thanksgiving I took him he was an eccentric guy very new agey but super nice and seemingly laid back our sophomore year he basically disappeared later we learned that he was having mental health issues when some with some saying that he was diagnosed as bipolar he got into Buddhism and met a woman that he started a relationship with his parents for paying for everything he married this woman and his parents continued sending him money finally his father felt that he was being con and scale back on the

support so Brent went home for Thanksgiving and murdered them with an axe and cut their throats oh my god seriously he was going to kill his sister too but she happened to not be there as he expected he waited for you he waited four years for a trial and then went to prison where he died supposedly a suicide from Tylenol overdose Tylenol yeah I don't want to okay go sorry we can't talk about Tylenol right now okay because of my my murder that we're about to talk about oh this goes up okay but yeah you can overdose on aspirin and Tylenol oh but how many do you have to take I think 60 to 300 probably boring someone suicide no Karen I know said it was boring nobody right for a while after if my college

friends asked what I was doing for a holiday the standard response was well I'm not going to kill my parents if that's what you're asking Google Brent Springford there are some good stories that give tons of amazing facts thanks Kevin Kevin Brent Springford is his name is the killer yeah um that poor sister has no family so tragedy tragedy tragedy do you think she ever visited him in jail or prison I you know what I mean would you I don't know if I would I don't know I think I would that's so hard I can't my sister I can only picture my sister killing me well yeah I think cuz she's tried many times with a hairbrush right she threw it at your head she threw a Barbie at my head once after school it was like the

Wild West at our house my god you'd literally be like steal a cracker off somebody's plate and it was on and we would fight for three hours and then your mom would be like can you guys stop being dicks to each other yeah I can't deal with this yeah and you're like pleading your case and clearly you're right but your mom just does not want to deal with it our thing was cuz my mom would work and so and my dad was at the firehouse so it was just we were by ourselves we were alone for fucking days sometimes yeah when she was dating someone yeah what the fuck what the fuck yeah you're still supposed to raise us you're still supposed to parent but we knew by the time my mom got home from work we weren't we couldn't

talk about any of it so we literally like you know have like big swollen faces or like you know from crying and I'm sure the whole in the door of you were not in near each other yeah oh god two daughters it was insanity yeah I'll visit your sister in jail and she kills you oh thank you that would be I would like that we'll have a live episode from the prison sister and I on location with Karen's murderer all right this next one I picked because it's also a recent one which is unfair and unjust but guess what that's how the world is from Andrea and she has a fascinating looking last name I don't know how you get your printing in your email to make these shapes but she's from Denmark she's from Iceland yes we got

good ones there yeah so I'm excited because when I was in sixth grade that was my country at the report I had to do how I do reports on countries I got Iceland and this was back before the internet or anything and Björk and before Björk before and before any of it that's why you do such a good Björk impression yeah it's it's of my heart it's like I grew up with Iceland I'll show you look exactly like her so that helps please I wish but we actually have to go to the travel agency in town to get like pamphlets and shit yes that's how we got information about remember this right and my friend Holly had Malta which was even even worse I got the two last countries like everybody got to her baby yeah your teacher

hated you the most so she picked you last no no it was like he was drawing names out of a hat but Malta I guess Malta I mean Malta isn't anything but Iceland I feel very proud yeah I knew about Iceland and then Iceland like burst onto the scene mm-hmm style now everybody loves Iceland everyone wants to go to Iceland I'm like well guess what their gross national product is motherfuckers Björk I can't remember Björk just Björk oh god hold on let me okay let me piss people off with my mic okay go okay so here's this is from Andrea hi babes see I like that's good babes is good hi babes so I have a hometown murder for you I live in Iceland where they're they're only there are only oh wait she's

got an accent in this Karen please read in Björk's just get her one fucking treat we need it let me oh my god you guys I'm so excited hi babes so I have a hometown murder for you I live in Iceland where they're I bet she's so offended right now Andrea don't be mad at me where there are a handful of murders have all there have only been a handful of murders occurred and most of them boring sorry Iceland but there is this one gem that happened in 1982 where two French sisters Yvette and Marie loose Bauhad were hitchhiking in the middle of nowhere in the outskirts of Iceland you know where this is going they got picked up by an Icelandic man and they were fine and everything worked they went to a hot spring

and soaked with an awfully difficult to pronounce name so I just will spare you the trouble and just call him the man he told them that he was working with the police department in the area so of course they trusted him they got in and everything seemed normal they even stopped at a lake and took some pictures he dropped them off at some remote cabin helped them settle in and leaves the sisters go to sleep and everything seems normal but sometime between 11 and midnight the man comes back wakes them up and tells them that he has been instructed by the police in the area to escort them to the station because they had supposedly been smoking marijuana the sisters protest and refuse to leave because they hadn't been

smoking they later found no evidence that they had ever been smoking in their whole stay in Iceland he gets really mad and leaves the sisters that are now pretty shooken up get dressed and prepare to leave then the man comes back no shotgun no yells at them to come with him some shit goes down and he ends up hitting one of the sisters Marie loose you know they fought that's what fucking went down yeah good girls hits one of them in the head with the gun she falls unconscious and the other sister vet flees out the door the man follows her and shoots her in the back oh however she somehow gets away from him girl and on to the next road fuck we don't really know what happened until a truck driver

stumbles upon the man and a vet on the road by the man's car the man tells the driver that he has accidentally hit this young woman with his car and she was now in shock and hysterical if that screams for help and tells the driver tells the truck driver that the man tried to kill her she even tries to climb into his truck but the man no the man holds her down no by the way her clothes are bloody from her gunshot wounds now get this the truck driver believes the man drives away what an idiot it's not idiot it's oh no well I mean that that's what she said no that's what she said he however alerts the authorities and they go and check out the situation and when the police get to the road they see Marie

Luce that had woken up and left the cabin to find help she tells them the whole story the next day they find the man's car with his poor French traveler is that dead in the trunk there are no signs of sexual abuse she had been shot in the back but ultimately died of her wounds shock and lack of oxygen in the trunk the man was found a while later and got 16 years in prison 16 yeah years what chills me about this story is that the man had no apparent motive no one really knows why he showed up to the cabin and what he would have done if a vet hadn't ran plus you have to wonder how the truck driver feels knowing that he probably could have saved her of course it's horrible probably I'm sorry

angry yeah you're a little fired up I know you're right but I mean that is the thing of like easier thing and now I have to live it anyway the man who did this is out and still alive somewhere yikes PS absolutely love the podcast even though it keeps me awake I still listen to the old episodes every night keep up the good work thank you thank you Andrea that was horrifying that one made me sad that's rough I mean that's just so it's like the strangers where it's just like or being tacked for no reason yeah out in the middle of I've never seen that already I know is it the ones that bags over their heads yeah I know I've never seen it I don't know why so it's shot so perfectly for a horror movie like it's

really really good then small watch scary movies with me he's scared he's like not into horror movies yeah so I don't really have chances to watch them very often on my own I tried to make him watch what's the oh forget I'm not gonna remember and he wasn't into it too scary Rosemary's baby no I love that one new one you can watch it's newer it's oh it's called time something a time to kill no with Ashley Judd no that's a good one though kiss the girls kiss the girl no Ashley Judd Morgan Freeman film series where for some reason they continually get matched up and are in movies together all throughout the 90s I love them both it's called time something and I think it's a French thing there you go and

it's super scary it's it's it's like thriller scary Steven's looking for it time something French time French called for it croissant time it's called in the New York minute it's Mary Kate and Ashley Olson it's great should I do one more we're Dunsys I was gonna tell you when I saw the strangers in the theater there was one part that was so scary the entire audience screamed and it scared me really bad I'm screaming that you shouldn't just sneeze together I'm positive it because as much as I've been to horror movies that never happens where the entire audience screams that's in a commercial for like the horror movie and it really happened during that movie time crimes time crime right Steven is that

right I'm still looking for time crimes what's time crimes time cop you're talking about time cop John Claude Van Damme yep that's the one he jumps in between the counter terrified of John Claude Van Damme and time time traveling thriller opens with Hector Spying and a beautiful woman in dressing in the woods he finds her assaulted he and turn is attacked by a man who's head is swabbed and bandaged yes it's good that all means something time crime it's fucking good okay it's like a thriller it's like you know what it reminds me of it reminds me of what I'm doing a black mirror the HBO like scariest fuck thing yeah all right Netflix goodbye all right this one is by Cassie my hometown murder lust drugs and murder yes

my fiance grew up in a small town in Southern California where everyone knew each other in order to get to school his neighbor would occasionally drive him my fiance was in high school one of his female classmates went missing and no one could find her for a few months one day while working in the orange orchard orchards a migrant worker found her body dumped in a ditch man those were all around my my fucking town orange orchards no bodies dumped in ditch yes I'm sorry it was painful evidence found that she had been raped and strangled the evidence from the DNA test indicated that my fiance's neighbor had been the one who raped and strangled her the one that was driving him to school I think so yes the man ended

up confessing to her murder and stated he was in love with her but she had rejected him in a fit of rage after going on a meth binge oh hey orange county hey he killed her and then raped her oh that's a bad fucking timeline yeah after learning that his neighbor was the killer my fiance realized that the neighbor had driven into school several several times since then oh she had driven my fiance in the van that he killed the girl in and used to dump her body wait a second were there other oh you wouldn't know people and it sounds like he's just being driven to school by a man in a van yes does like it just hit does I'm gonna go drive the boy to school that's about right yeah but Southern California you

trust your stupid neighbor yeah man this probably was in the 90s right like you just do shit yeah needless to say my fiance was thoroughly creeped out Cassie thanks Cassio and Cassio keyboard but uh I have a really long one for next time it's good one I have follow-up questions for Cassie and ask for a picture of a dog I want to know if you please ask your fiance we're there I think it's old because when I grew up in orange county in Southern California the orange orchards went away to build bullshit fuckin McMansions and shopping centers in like like 96 was the last time there was like an orchard so I bet you it's before that when you just like got a ride from your neighbor and maybe he bought you

beers on the weekends once in a while you know what I mean I know but is what are their parents in this situation like was this an orphan boy that's just trying to make make it get his way to school it doesn't make sense that a man in a van just drives one child neighbor so like everyone thinks they know him yes true true I mean maybe maybe his friends were with him too was like that's what I want to know Cassie you're the only one that can solve this mystery deets Karen's requesting deets please I want to know if there's other children it's because that would be so creepy if it was just him like he's basically like a miracle for even being alive yeah whoa whoa so many questions well wow um I can respond

to her right now do you want to write this together real quick a response okay um take this down I pull up my stenography machine for my core for today to just start fucking tippity tabbing away get this thing written in two seconds are we good I think so how much time is that that was long it's been about 30 minutes oh that's 10 bonus minutes right never go 20 minutes we always go at least 3035 yeah it's fun and then we it's just a lot of superfluous fucking riffing is it superfluous though no it's superfluous it's superfluous it's abundantly superfluous I don't know you do know you know I believe in you Georgia thank you Karen high-five high-five will we reach it probably not wait oh it sounded

great um should we give Elvis a mini cookie that's a yes mm-hmm stay sexy don't get murdered bye bye