My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - MFM Minisode 13

Episode Date: December 19, 2016

On this week's My Favorite Murder minisode, Karen and Georgia read hometown stories from sister murderinos and give real estate advice on buying killer condos!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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favorite murder at Gmail. All right. So this is one, someone sent me the J. Cadian murder. This story is based on my recollections of what my mother was told by J's mom and sister, which she later shared with me. I grew up in Great Falls, Virginia. J. Cadian lived across the street from me on a cul-de-sac. We were the same age and attended school together from fourth grade up until the end of high school. All the kids in the neighborhood would tend to play together, but he never really joined in. By the time we got to high school, we were friendly, but not really friends, although he would sell me pot on the cheap and was pretty chill when we smoked together. Fucking, that's the true friend right there. That's really nice. Yeah. After we went to

college, James Madison, I believe, he apparently began having serious mental health issues and ended up back at home, living with his parents on and off. According to my mom, when he was at home, he began working as a door-to-door knife salesman and came by the house from time to time, selling his knives. Man. So that's the background. During this period, mother worked hard. During this period, mother worked hard to ensure he attended therapy and received psychiatric care. His father was more of a, pull yourself together by your bootstraps kind of guy, fucking, and not supporting. Well, one day, and I learned this much later, his mother was begging him to come to therapy appointment. She had set up for him and he snapped. He stabbed her multiple times and

fled in his car. She died. Mrs. Katie, and was soon thereafter discovered by her daughter, Jay's older sister. The police tracked down Jay and found him curled up in a parking structure at James Madison, covered in blood. My mom's first said this day that she thought she heard screaming that day. She was home when it occurred. I don't know if that's true, but it freaks me out anyways. It is still so shocking and heartbreaking that this kid knew all my child, but this kid, I knew all my childhood could do something like this. And to the only family member who was his, was really trying to help him. I believe he was since diagnosed with schizophrenia and went to an institution set of jail, but I don't want to look it up because I don't look

up any articles. Should it take my memory of this tragedy? My parents moved about five years ago, but Mr. Katie was still living in the house. I couldn't do that. Whoa. Another story he says, again in Great Falls, imagine what the serious security system was broken into 12 years ago. The family and mother, father, and children were tied naked to chairs while they, while the perpetrators robbed the house, except the robbers barely took anything and they never untied the family. One of them got free and ran across the street and woke the family for whom I was working with, whom I was working as a nanny. I came over to start the day and the cops were swarming the whole area. That one scared the whole area for a while because it just didn't make any sense.

And that's from Alexandra G. Someone broke in and made the family get naked and tied them to chairs and then didn't take anything. Barely stole anything. Yeah, that's not cool. With a hardcore security system. That's so creepy. Totally. But not as creepy as a man who continues to live in the house where his wife was murdered by his son. Who was just like, get your boots, drive some, pick them up, motherfucker. That's so sad. Well, because it's someone who doesn't know what to do. No. He just doesn't know what to do. No, he doesn't. He can't think outside of, you know, here's what you do with your life. These are the normal things that happen. And as soon as I read like in his early 20s, he started acting weird. It's like, you're

schizophrenic. Right. Right. No, that's not necessarily true. But well, that's when oftentimes in young men, schizophrenia starts to develop or they show signs. And all the therapy in the world can't fucking scare away schizophrenia. Like that's not, it's not how it works. Therapy away schizophrenia. No, you need meds. Treat it for sure. Yeah. But not through therapy. Right. You need some meds. Dude, you need medicine. And not shitty weed. So anyway, hey, read me one of yours. Okay. The headline for this is the subject line, I mean, is two serial killer neighbors when your real estate agent can't tell you. Oh, what your, I mean, it says when your real estate agent can't tell you. Oh, no. Hi, Karen and Georgia. My name is Sage and I'm Chloe. We are two sisters.

Sage and Chloe. It's an email that has two people narrating it. I want to see them like switching back and forth. And I'm Chloe. Should I do different voices? Yes. My name is Sage. And I'm Chloe. We are two sisters who love your podcast and want to tell you all about our hometown murders. Okay, fine. Well, more our mom, grandmothers, if that still counts, it does. We grew up in Vancouver, Washington, which is right over the Oregon, Washington border. That's me. That's me giving her geographical knowledge that I have. I'm going to pop it in when I have it. Get it girl. What if I'm wrong? Where, where our mom also lived for part of her childhood. I think you meant to say so what if I'm wrong? I mean, fuck it. She also lived in Auburn, Walla Walla and Seattle,

which will be relevant in a little bit. Oh, that's called foreshadowing. So her dad moved a lot for work. So my grandmother rented out their Vancouver house in the late 80s while they were living in Seattle or somewhere we can't remember because we're bad daughters and listeners. My grandmother stayed behind to paint the house before the renters moved in your grandmother. Come on, honey. That's not a grandma job. The house was in a quiet cul-de-sac in the suburban sprawl that is Vancouver. So our grandmother, Marjorie, left all the windows and doors wide open as she tends to think more about paint fumes than a fucking serial killer. No, fucking half that shit, man. Especially in the 80s and parentheses. Around this time,

young boys around the same age as my uncle have been disappearing from Vancouver and nearby Portland, where we all live now excluding our grandma, who still lives in that same house. Anyways, through those open windows backed up to her backyard was another home and an apartment building. This apartment building is the residence of one Wesley Allen motherfucking dod. That's how it's written. I love it. Seriously, what's with serial killers having three names? You're selfish enough to kill people and you end just your first and last name isn't good enough for you. Stephen and I were just talking about this. Three names are listed. We all know this because Wesley Dodd. Wesley Dodd could be anybody, but Wesley Allen Dodd is a super special person all to himself.

It's exactly that one killer. Okay, for those of you who haven't heard of him, he killed three boys in the 80s in Washington and Oregon. Dodd was the first American inmate to be hung since the 60s by his own request, we may add. What a psycho. It gives my grandmother shivers to this day to think about how just a stone's throw away a child was being held for days before being murdered. The same day area and questions I can't formulate. It's the same day area. It's also horrible to think that in a park where we hiked and played when we were little kids, two children were stabbed to death. Dodd was sent to Walla Walla where coincidentally our mom and her family lived at the time. They were close enough to the prison to hear it and in fact, our mother would often

mess with her brother saying that inmates had escaped and were on their way over whenever there was an alarm or sign. Why are moms the worst people? My mom would say, I'm going to call the Indian Reservation unless you're good and she pick up the phone and pretend to call an Indian Reservation. She's so racist. Oh my God, that's holy. This is the funniest family of all time. Adrienne, my sister's friend Adrienne, my favorite thing is the way she controlled her three children when they were all the same age and little is she would just look around like if they were in a restaurant and they were all acting up. She'd just look around and go, oh no, the man's coming. You could do that to me now. I know. Because she would act scared and then

they would all get like super, I know. If Vince did that to me when I was like being loud at a restaurant and you're like, baby, what's going on? I'll be quiet. The man's coming. Okay, sorry, this got a little long. We're back in the email now. That's not our story. We have one last little anecdote which may or may not read. I bet it will. As I mentioned earlier, our mom has also lived in Auburn, which is near Seattle, so she saw some good gun shows. Oh, wait. As you know. You know that about this family. Sure. Everybody out there, she saw some good gun shows, but also spent some time at her friend's house and she was little in the 70s. Her friend's house backed up to the Green River, where Gary Ridgeway dumped his victims. He's the Green River killer. My grandparents

obviously were great at picking neighborhoods. Well, those are our hometown murders. Thank you, Karen, Georgia, for making shitty shifts and long commutes bearable. Thanks, Gals. Murderer arenas are the best, especially when they tell their sisters about it. I know. Sage and Chloe, way to go. You guys are Sage and Chloe. I was going to say you're Sage. That didn't make sense. So I didn't say anything at all. All right. My second one is just this is one of the ones I like the most. It's just my hometown murder. Oh, nice. So this is Cassie M. And she says, Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that I love your podcast. I too suffer from the anxiety of dying a terrific death and witnessing one and somehow listening to these

true crime stories helps with that. It really does. Word, girl, we get it. Anyway, I wanted to share my hometown murder story. I grew up in Phoenix, Arizona and went to school with a kid named Michael Falauter. Falauter. Michael Falauter. He lived three streets behind me. So he would sometimes we would sometimes walk to get home together and rode the bus together when we were in middle school. His dad, Scott Falauter, worked for Motorola and came to my school and discussed his job with my class and brought some pretty cool gadgets to show us to. He had an older sister and she and his mom would walk the park we lived across the street from while he and I played on the playground. My mom joined his mom a couple of times too. Then one day our neighborhood was all over the news

showing their house. His dad, Scott Falauter, killed their mom one night while the kids were asleep upstairs. He stabbed her 44 times and then finished the job by drowning her in the backyard pool. Good God. Finished. Oh my God. The kids heard their mom screaming and came downstairs to check. It was horrible. Scott told him to go back upstairs. So they did. Scott claimed he was quote, sleepwalking when he brutally murdered his wife. It was horrible. The kids left and went to live with their other relatives and I think Scott is still in jail. The craziest it was the craziest thing ever because we lived in such a quiet little neighborhood. No one would have ever suspected something like this happening. It's like if you don't suspect something in your

neighborhood, it's going to fucking happen. You know what I mean? That's why I start suspecting. That's why I suspect something in every place I'm ever in my life because then it'll never happen. Did I mean, obviously the sleepwalking defense didn't work. It doesn't look like cause like maybe, maybe for the stabbing, but then then dragging to a pole. Oh God. Like if you didn't, that's so terrible. If you knew, if you were trying to kill someone, you stabbed them 44 times, knew it hadn't worked and then took them like, you know what I mean? It's like too many steps. That's right. It's also bullshit. Yeah. I mean, it's hard to serious bullshit. But how sad that those kids came to, I know it's, it's nightmarish. Nightmarish. Just fuck off. Just fucking leave.

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Killer Psyche Daily in the Amazon Music app. Download the app today. All right, you want to hear this one? Yes. The subject line is, should I buy a murder condo? I really want to. Hi, Drew. The answer is yes and invite us over and we're recording from there from now on. You better make us dinner. We're fucking coming over. This is Heather. Hi girls, you're both just wonderful to listen to and it really feels like we're listening to some of our closest friends. She's talking in the royal wee. Oh, it says, we being my sister and I. Oh, what? I didn't do that on purpose.

Sisters. I'm doing it for themselves. That's so funny. We being my sister and I, we rarely agree on anything, but we both think you're great. That's fun. I could def gush some more, but anyway, onto my question. Good, good. I'm shopping for a new home for the first time ever. I've done my research and I kept a really close eye on the market. I think if this is what I think it is, if this is what I think it is, okay, hold on. Is it the Los Feliz murder home? Hold on. She's like, I have $2 million to spend and I don't know what seconds I go back. I think I've just found the perfect unit I want to buy. The thing is this one's in,

this one building in my city has prices that are too good to be true, probably because they are. It's a murder condo. Yes, a murder condo. Two guys were shot there while a third person, a woman escaped by crawling onto the neighbor's balcony. Here's a link to the story that's not allowed. Over a dozen units have gone up for sale since the ordeal, all at reduced pricing. One unit in particular has the best price and I'm pretty sure that's capital T, capital O, the one. Other than the murders, this seems like the perfect opportunity. I know you can't tell me what to do, but I'm curious. No, we can tell you. What would you do? Thanks for your input,

newest murderer, Heather. Heather clearly doesn't know that we're going to tell you what to do. Oh, I would tell you what to do if you didn't ask. We're about to. That's my whole thing. P.S. what? P.S. I wish you would revisit Paul Bernardo. Paul Bernardo, that's my hometown murder. I, you know what, Heather, I will revisit Paul Bernardo. That's the, um, I know, that's that case, the honeymoon. I don't know what they were called in Canada. Just kind of bore me and everyone wants us to do it, which makes me who's such a fucking cut not want to do it. It's just like, it's just that I did it, but I biffed it because I didn't do any research and I was just kind of talking through it. It was like episode three. Let's start.

Let's you and I both start back over from one and redo all of our ones. That's a great idea. And then we're just no crosstalk, no chitchat. Just like, let's put some like fucking, let's make this a narrative podcast. Let's get quiet and put music underneath everything. It's just baby screaming, baby screaming, like the background music is just, I don't know. Okay. Here's what we think about your fucking condo. Here is this. Okay. Tell me what you really think. Put your phone down and tell me what you're looking at. I opened the link. I open the link. So I just want to know. I don't want to know. Okay. Okay. I just want to say that it's really weird. If it was a drug killing, I'd be like, move the fuck in there. Who gives a

shit? Right. If it was like, oh, you know, a bunch of women got kidnapped and fucking killed there, like don't fucking move in there. Okay. What do you think? So are you saying that the difference is like, if it was a one off kind of passionless murder that somebody did for business, like almost, almost like the mafia, then you're fine. Yeah. If it was like someone, someone had a horrible suffering, you know, not that they didn't suffer, but like, yeah, they didn't suffer. If they got like shot, mafia style, that's the whole thing. Yeah. If there was like a captive situation where this, this poor, these poor people were, you know, held captive and suffered and it was just horrible. Then I wouldn't want to move there because you would just feel awful.

Not that I believe in ghosts, but I'm just like, feel awful. Bad vibes. Bad vibes. You definitely have to burn a bunch of sage. Here's one of my least favorite fucking quotes or least favorite sayings. Bad juju. Yeah, I don't like that either. I fucking hate that. I don't like it at all. What would you do? Um, I just, the thing I just said about the mafia is not true because they do tend to torture, which is bad vibes also. I think they want information. They already have it. They're like, bye. Um, right. But I mean, you know, it's 50, 50. Sure. Who knows what the actual case is. Never been in the mafia. I don't know. And especially the Canadian mafia. Who knows what those motherfuckers are doing, pouring maple syrup down your throat. Oh, what not? Stuffing maple

leaves. Hot maple syrup. Hot maple syrup. You're getting waterboarded, but also like, it feels like breakfast. Side note, how much do you hate when you're at a restaurant and they're like, if you want real maple syrup, it'll be $2 extra. You seen that? You know, you're high class. I'm like only at swingers. I don't want log cabin fucking bullshit. Give me the real stuff you're saying. Yeah. Yes. Well, it really does taste different. It does. Okay. Go on. Um, anyhow. So move in. I mean, or just pay an extra five grand and find something else. Okay. Wait, this was a shooting. Two guys got shot. One lady got away. That's good vibes. That's fucking great vibes. That's survivor. Then you've got some, if there, if there's residual energy

for her, it's like, I had the tiger sounding totally. But then there's the two guys that got shot. Poor babies. So you're going to have to find out, is it new carpet, new paint? Did they, did they spackle over those holes? And like, how much less are we talking? Uh, also why buy in this economy when the world is ending? You just living in Canada. Like, it can't be that like, it's not LA. Also, nothing's going to change for them when art. No, it's not. You gotta, you gotta know the market too. Like if it's Los Angeles and it's like, yeah, there, you know, yeah, everything costs a billion dollars. So if you could buy something here for cheap, totally. But what's the deal in Toronto right now? Who knows? I mean, Toronto is the New York of

Canada. Isn't it? I have no idea. I've already proven that I know nothing about Canada. Time and again. So your answer is yes, buy it. Buy it. I mean, don't buy it because of that. But buy it despite option with a lease to buy, lease with an option to buy. I don't know. I rent a fucking one bedroom rent control department and fucking Los Angeles. I don't know. I mean, what's the worst that could happen? You're in there and you have some nightmares. There's no such thing as fucking ghost or nightmares. Like it's all fucking made up by your dumb brain who's just like, I'm a brain. I'm like, I want to like freak you. Like it's not real. Nothing is real. Once again, I'm going to tell you I had a real ghost experience and you're, you trying to negate

it. Well, then stop saying it's not real. Okay. Oh no. I hope you're happy. I'm never happy. I can't get back out of this link. Oh, I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the person that sent that. But now I think what's her name? I can't get back. How do you get back? You can't get back. You can't get back out. Well, let's devolve. Thank you. This is gone to shit. It was Heather. Heather, you've broken up this podcast. I hope you're happy. Heather, send us photos. Greedy landowner. And your new beautiful, you know, paint and eye of the tiger painting on the like mural on the fucking wall and send us some photos. Heather, don't send photos. Send Georgia Maple syrup. Oh my God. Send it. Oh my God. Yes. Is that legal? To cross across the drugs. I

like totally made mine. It sounds like a drug. Actually, buy the condo and get the paperwork going so that we could possibly move to Toronto and become citizens there if need be in the next six months. Let's say that we don't cause a ruckus and anarchy and then need to go somewhere. Let's just say we're renting out your second room. Let's just say you might have two new roommates in the murder apartment. We'll get through it together. Listen, you marry someone legally in Canada, then you adopt me. Ooh. What do you adopted me and Stephen as your babies? That's such a good idea. You could totally do that. You can adopt an adult. Can you really? Probably. I think so. I so believed you. I believe it too. I just don't want to lie to you.

This is just like ghosts, but with adoption. I believe everything I say. And then Vincent, Stephen and I are going to become your children. Okay. This is the best new sitcom idea you've ever had. It's our family in Toronto. Someone got shot but now we're together. Oh yeah, the tiger doesn't mean nothing. What? Yeah. You did it. And then it's like guest starring Mimi. Yeah. Poor baby. She's just a guest star. And? Feature. Oh, introduction and introducing Mimi. Oh God. All right. Well, thanks for listening. We did our best. No, we didn't. I think this is coming out tomorrow, right? So happy holidays, everyone. Oh yeah, that's right. Be careful. Get your shopping done, but don't get aggressive.

Get your fucking, get your vaccines and your shopping done. Thanks to Stephen Ray Morris, our fucking audio engineer for Audio Technician. Technician for the Percast. That's when I want to start calling him. Audio Technician. Did you say for the Percast? Well, I want to plug his podcast. Oh, oh. I didn't realize that was yours. Yes. Oh yeah, the Percast. I'm going to give it a listen. It's a cat podcast. Sorry. Sorry. I'm not going to give it a listen. Some people think it's a joke. Oh, no. It's totally not a joke. I mean, it's a joke, but it's not a joke. Yeah, exactly. It's real. Georgia was on. Vince was on. It was great. Yeah, we were on. Talking about Elvis for an hour and a half,

which is like all I want to do with my life. Your dream. I dream. Thank you guys for listening. We love you and stuff. Great reviews, whatever. You know, you know what to do. Yep. You're just not doing it because they're doing it. Oh, you're doing it. Thank you. Well, you guys, thank you. Stay sexy. Don't get murdered. Goodbye. Elvis, you want a cookie? My cookie? He's like, what? Do you want a cookie? Oh, my God. Karen asked him. Hey, do you want a cookie? Yeah. Cookie boy cookie. There we go. Bye. Bye.