My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - MFM Minisode 26

Episode Date: May 1, 2017

Let's stop and start it for a new My Favorite Murder minisode where Karen and Georgia read your hometown murders. This week your stories involve a retirement community, a ball-peen hammer, and more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And secondly, was I just going, oh, so I bought, I went to Target yesterday and got an umbrella for the backyard. Went out this morning, it was gone. Oh, because of the wind? Yes. Did it kill anyone? I hopped over the fence and went into the alley. Wait, let me see.

Oh my God. Pretty great. I want to post it, but then people will know what my alley looks like. Right. So this is me looking, looking for it, looking for it. Oh my God. That is a giant umbrella. Yeah.

And I didn't think to close it. Right. In these fucking 90 mile per hour winds. Did you? 35 breath. Oh, you didn't. Yeah. Yeah.

I took it down. Did you think someone stole it? I was like, what's wrong with your neighborhood? You know what's sad is I didn't think, I just didn't understand. Right. I just stood there baffled for like 30 seconds. Right. Have you done that with your car when you like accidentally put it somewhere else and

you just, your brain like just tries to make sense of it for a minute? I feel like my brain is in that mood all the time. Just like, wait, what? Oh, did we start? That was a good start. But I didn't even think about it. Did we start? Yeah.

It was recording. Oh. What? Where did it? What are we talking about? Stephen. Can you hear me? Can you hear Stephen?

No, we're, oh. Oh, we're good. We didn't have our headphones on. There we are. Stephen, I can't hear you. Can you hear me now? Yeah. You're doing something wrong.

Stephen, I can't hear you. Stephen, it's your fault. I can't hear you. Wait. Did you, did you had you started? Yeah. It started recording. Perfection.

Yeah, I was first. Oh, but before we start hometowns, welcome, this is my favorite murder, the Minnesota Edition, where we redo your hometown stories that you emailed us. But before we start that, we simply must save and open up some sacred space for the fact that last night, George and I discovered that we both have tramp stamps. What up, America? Oh, my God. America.

I think we should show each other ours, but I think we should wait for the real episode. So you have to tune back in. What a cliffhanger. This week's, oh, would you think that there are other people out there that only listen to the minisodes? Yeah. Oh. And they're just like, well, I guess I'll never know.

Yeah. And they don't, they're fine with it. We're going to show each other our asses on next week's, my favorite murder, or this week's, my favorite murder, the full Z's. Turns out we're a couple of dumb sluts. It's what you've suspected all along is true. And we're going to tell each other the stories about them. Oh, God.

It's going to be, no, don't do it. No, no, no, no, no. You're so bad. Yeah, we'll save it. Okay. But I will tell you all, we had dinner last night and the look on each other's face when we were like, sorry, what is this you're telling me? Wait, was it a dinner?

Yeah. Okay. You have a trim stamp? Yeah, I say, you have a trim stamp. Wait, how did we not know this? We kind of like bonded now for life. There's no going back now. Mine looks like, like truck flaps, you know, and they have like the ladies on the, that's

what mine looks like. But are the pictures naked ladies? No. Oh, God, can you imagine? Oh, really? Because I have to use somebody's hands and back off. This is amazing. Like, if that was real.

Okay. You go first. Let's get serious. Let's stop it. Let's get it. Let's stop it. Let's start it. Okay.

The only thing I have here, Jesus Christ, so here it is. Here it is, Steven. So borderline fired because I couldn't find my paper. Couldn't find the paper that you worked on and printed. It's Steven did everything for. Hello. Oh. Hmm.

No. Steven. Was it a baby killer? Uh-huh. Oh, no. Um, now he's getting in trouble for the fact that this is a murder podcast. This is giggling. I can see it.

He's in trouble for that. He's like, have you guys known what you ever talked about? Steven, why did you invent murder? Okay. This, the subject line of this one of our first hometown murder today is ball peen hammers and Michael Baden. Who's that? I don't know.

I don't know either. Okay. Hey, Georgia. Hey, Karen. Georgia, Steven, Mimi, Elvis, et cetera. Uh-huh. Big fan, blah, blah, blah. Smiley face with a winking eye or with an infected eye.

We don't know. Uh, my hometown murder hits close to home. My mom was a key witness. Fuck yes. Sandra Sandy Allen was a young mother and wife here in Bartlesville, Oklahoma. Her husband Steven was an accountant and she worked at the local mall. Steven. Steven.

On the night of June 11th, 1990, Steve Allen arrived home and claimed to have been, claimed to have seen an intruder in his backyard who immediately ran off. He locked his car with his kids in it because that's safe with an intruder running around and ran inside and found his wife badly beaten on the floor. At the hospital where my mom was a nurse, shout out to nurses, what up, Steve was observed to be very calm and cooperative, but also covered in blood front and back. Sadly while- Steven.

I mean, sadly while Sandy fought for her life, she died shortly after arriving. During the search of the Allen house, police found a ball peen hammer covered in Sandy's blood and Steve's fingerprints wrapped in a towel in the attic because, you know, he quote, grabbed it randomly and thought it might make him look good, guilty, so he hit it. What? That was like- Yeah, that's what we do.

Are the kids still in the cars? That's my question. And is the sun shining directly on that car? Yeah, we never address that. They're still there too this day. It was 1990 when this happened, they're now all in their 30s, they're looking for relationships, they would love to get good jobs, sorry. Okay, so during the search, no, no, no, sorry, even more surprisingly, he was found to be

having an affair with a secretary at work and some really strange sexual preferences his wife was not comfortable with and had been causing some major marital problems. I know, we're not going to find out because this is ending right now, god damn it. I want to know, I want to know. Like, what is like a weird perversion that would actually cause that, like bring you to this, where it's just like, here's this thing, I know you're pretty conservative in bed, I love to murder my wife, so could we get into some murder my wife play? And she's like, I'm not into that.

I just don't, it doesn't do anything for me. It doesn't make me comfortable. It actually makes me uncomfortable. Yeah. Okay, seemingly Dr. Michael Baden testified for the defense saying he didn't think the hammer could have been the murder weapon. Steve was convicted and is a hammer. How could that not be the second?

Sorry. No, no, no, that's fine. Oh, that's why. Okay. Do you know who Dr. Michael Baden is? No. Is he like, oh, I bet he's like a forensic heat, dude, a bad guy, but he, well, he testified for the defense though.

That's crazy. So then the bloody hammer that was in the attic wasn't even the murder weapon according to a doctor. Well, doctors, nurses, yes, doctors, doctors, no way. No. Sorry. No, no. He was the chief medical examiner of the city of New York from 78 to 79.

He gave testimony at the trial of OJ Simpson. He was there as an expert witness on Sid Vicious's death, Lucia's death, Lisa McPherson's death. Wow. David Carradine to investigate David Carradine's death. Oh man, he's in it. So he's like a celebrity death expert. Physician, yeah. I don't trust him.

Okay. I mean, it seems like you have good reason. Steve was convicted and is serving life in prison, but maintains his innocence. His kids live with Sandy's family. So they're out of the car and all good with Sandy's family. That's awful and depressing. My mom stayed sexy and put that murderer in jail. Girl.

Girl, forest. Lena, uh, your mom sure did, God. That's, what if, what if, what if. I always do that. What? Your husband had killed you? No. What if it's a total Shawshank situation and he really did come home and was like, what's

this bloody hammer doing here? And then the end. There has to be some of them that legitimately happens, but it's like always, I wonder what percentage of like husbands have been put away that didn't, legit didn't do it. I know. We're also having an affair and we're also into some kinky shit. Yeah, but what was the kinky shit? Ah, it's got it.

I bet it's you and I and be like, oh, I've done that. Yeah. Who cares? Yeah, that's like where I start. Yeah. That's fucking foreplay, man. Ah! And then someone that's like being hung from one toe from the ceiling.

Georgia! Shit! Who cares? Get into it. It's just getting a tramp stamp. Oh my God. That's it. That's what I knew.

It was, I did it once and it was so sexually satisfying, I will never do it again. But you think about it every time. Oh my God, I bring it back. You sex. Every time I sex around. Do you want to hear a not so normal family massacre, I'm going to say yes, or killer dentist or my creepy ass hometown murder? It does all sound great.

I know, right? Okay, let's start with, let's do what? Dentist. The dentist, killer dentist. That's my pick. Okay. So, my hometown is a little redneck hick town called Camrose. It's in Alberta, Canada and nothing ever happens there.

One of the dentists in town, I'll call him Mr. B, had weird rumors drifting around that he had killed his wife in the early 90s. The story goes, Ms. Dr. B took her out on a boat on a nearby lake. She was wearing a fur and she, quote, fell into the water and drowned due to the heavy fur coat dragging her under. But in actuality, according to the rumors, Dr. B pushed her into the lake. I was petrified of this dentist when I was a kid and refused to go to him. Maybe this is where my insane fear of dentists stems from.

Everyone in town knows the story or knows a version of it. His house was avoided at all costs and at Halloween, my friends and I would dare each other to run up and touch it, just touch it. So in 2009, Dr. B was driving impaired and crashed his car, killing his passenger due to the already sorted rumors that had floated around the city for years, the cemented Dr. B as the killer dentist of cameras. He was sentenced to 2.5 years and a five-year ban from driving. I'm not sure how much of the rumors regarding the death of his wife are true, but Dr. B

no longer practices in town. Yeah, because everyone's going after him. Upon researching his name, he's fled the country and has a few international dating site profiles floating around. Oh, good. And then she goes, hopefully anyone new he meets isn't into voting. Thanks again for reading. Can't wait for more of my favorite murders.

Stay sexy. Bye, Jocelyn. Wow. That's good. I love us because there is a, what would you say, 60% chance that's totally small-town gossip. I think so, too. Like some say a hygienist was pissed.

He was addicted to some employee and they're like, well, you know what I think. Well, what are the chances that like, she fell in the lake and then like, he would have helped her. And also you can take, the amazing thing about fur coats is we're not bears, so you can take it off. I mean, unless she couldn't swim, but then it's like, well, why would she take her out in the water then? And why wouldn't she be wearing a life?

So yeah, I think he did it. Yeah, exactly. That's like, oh, I'm going to, I want to take you out over this cliff and dangle you over a cliff. Like hiking. And it's like, no, no, no, we got to go. I like it all of a sudden. Oh, bring, bring them all the most expensive accoutrements that you have, please.

R.E.I. Your... All of it. Do you have any, like a fur line tent? Bring it. Uh, okay. You go. Okay.

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Uh oh. Hey, Georgie and Karen. Thank you for doing this podcast. I love you both. And just binge listen to your podcast and felt like you might enjoy my hometown murder. I bet we will. When I was in high school, there was a murder suicide in my neighborhood. All caps.

I was 18 and living in a retirement community with my grandparents. That's awesome. That's awesome. There's your TV show. They're right that TV show. Totally. Right now, make a list of all the weirdest, funniest or even dumbest things that happen to you and put them together.

That's how people get famous. Let's name it right now. Retirement boy. The youth of yesterday. Oh. That's the worst thing I've ever said. Bringing back grandma. Yep.

Uh. Is it a Hallmark movie? It's a Hallmark movie. And then he falls in love with like the groundskeeper's daughter. Yes. Yeah. Somebody else that's there that's too young to be there. She like cleans the pool or whatever.

Yeah. Um, and it's called, uh, how, how, how to. I met a care about you. That was it. Good job. Thank you. Thanks so much. Or what about, uh, what's the, what are the, uh, never mind.

No. If you, if you think of it, just interrupt me and shout it out. Okay. I've had no coffee. Okay. Shout it out. Uh, do you want a sip of that coffee? Oh, I didn't bring it in.

You guys listen. I didn't. Oh, Steven's getting it. Oh no. Steven. Yes. That's what we hired him for. And don't pay him.

Thank you. Oh, can I tell the story of how, uh, Steven, I, I called the payroll company to give you, to pay you. And the guy, uh, wrote me an email and he's like, Hey, you know, let me know if you need anything. It was like a boring form letter. And then it's, you know, really stupid, boring. And then at the end it said, by the way, or a PS, don't get murdered.

And I was like, Oh, that was so cool. We've broken into the payroll, uh, genre. Yeah. Incredible. So what we're saying, Steven, is you're going to get that check in 12 to 18 weeks. All right. So he's 18 living in a retirement community with, I said him, but yes, it is him. Okay.

18 living in a retirement community with his grandparents. One day I came up, that must have been a show already. It must have been a show already. Well, I was thinking like a six year old would be fine, not an 18 year old. Cause then it's kind of like, get, move out. What if it's a six year old who can drive? What if he has a golf cart that he drives around the end? He got it for his birthday cause he's rich.

Then his parents died and he had to go live with this group. Yeah. We'll work on this out. Okay. I guess serious. One day I came home and I remember my grandmother told me that a man had, oh, hard left, a man had shot his wife multiple times and then killed himself, the two children I used to play with at the community pool when we were younger were, were with their grandparents

the night and more that, that night and morning. So they weren't there, but now are parentless. I remember the husband clearly because one day he was forcing the kids in the pool to teach them how to swim. He was very aggressive towards them and gave, and that gave me a bad vibe about him. Turns out it wasn't wrong. Of course being as curious as we, my grandmother and I were, we drove to the house to see if there was anything happening and sadly we couldn't see anything from the outside.

Other than the neighbors giving us the death stare as we passed. Thanks for reading, Al. Oh, that's a bummer dude. So it's not a homework movie. It isn't. It's a, yeah. Now we've gone into a kind of, it could be an art horror film like an A24 production. Yeah.

Should I do one more of this? But I have, I have my friend's one. So do hers. What do you think? Yeah. Do hers. Okay. My friend Dori Shafir, she just wrote her first novel, it came out recently, it's getting

fucking rave reviews. It's called startup and I just bought it. Cool. So she sent me her hometown, which is a good, it's a one that I've wanted to do because it's good, but there's no like great ending. It's just like a bummer. So I'm glad she did it. She took the hit.

She's taken it. It's a, it's a good hometown, but it's not a good like murder, murder, so long term. So I, should I put on speaker and then, okay, ready? Yes. Hey Georgia, Hey Cannes, this is Dori and I am calling with the story of a woman named Karina Homer, who was murdered in Boston in June of 1996 and she was 20 years old. She was an au pair from Sweden and she was found in a dumpster in the back day, like pretty nice neighborhood in, well, very nice neighborhood in Boston and the crazy thing

about it is only half of her was found and the other half of her has never been found and the case has never been solved. So here's a little bit more about the, the, the murder. I had just turned 19 in the summer of 1996 and I was home for the summer and when she was murdered, she was murdered after going out partying with a bunch of other Swedish au pairs. Yeah. I was at this club called Zanzibar in downtown Boston and it was on this, but it was like

alley called the alley where there were a bunch of different bars and clubs and it was kind of like the worst, fratty, ecology, grossest combination of bars and clubs you can imagine and bars in Boston close it too, bars and clubs close it too, but the tea stops running I think at midnight or maybe even some lines maybe stop running a little earlier. So everything she's recording this as she's doing, sending email, there's no way to get home forever. I'm trying to get a cab and it's like shitty and crazy and apparently she was totally wasted and was last seen kind of stumbling down the street and supposedly all her friends had

left her. No. There and you know this was 1996, there were no cell phones. Don't do it. No. She wasn't, you know, she wasn't able to text anyone and then 12 hours later she was found in the dumpster. She had been staying in South Boston at the apartment that was owned by the family she

was in a pair for and some suspicion fell on the dad and the family, but then he was later cleared and the casers have been cold for 20 years. We don't know. That's cool. Basically it'll go to happen. I think that's it. There's enough. I don't know if she...

And then she just wandered out of the room. Dory, that is an unbelievable story. Yeah. I don't know anymore. I did not know that at all. I don't know anything about that. She was fucking severed like the Black Dahlia. Oh, wait a second.

Part two. Steven's paying you back. No, no. Oh, sorry. Wait. Okay. Let me... I think she's just...

I think she left it again, but then she ended it better. Not better. But then she said a lot for a while, the alley with the ghost town that no one's been ever charged for the murder. Well, I think that's it for the hometowns this week. Wow. What a roundup of horrible stories. If you guys think you can beat that, send your hometowns to my favorite murder at Gmail.

Beg and plead with Steven to put yours on. He'll probably do it. Yeah, he will. I want to hear stories of ER doctors and nurses telling crazy... Even if they're not murderers, crazy shit that they've seen or experienced. That's what made me think of in that first one where it's just like... Those people see insane shit. Or EMTs.

Oh, my God. They have some shit stories, right? I sat next to our family friend, Dave's Wire, who is now a San Francisco fireman, but he was in training. They basically are EMTs first. One wedding we sat there and he was telling us these stories where I was just like, how does anyone do this job? They basically go and pick up people that have been hit by cars on the freeway type

of shit. I could never do that. It's so stressful. Every time I drive by an ambulance, I just want to buy them coffee or drugs. There has to be a good percentage of them that have PTSD. I just think they do it for a very short amount of time. They don't. From the people that I know.

But usually it's because they're training to do something else, but it would be interesting to know who's the longest running EMT. Well, he's probably the psychopath. I mean, I would hope so. Send us first responders. Send us your cool stories. Does that exploitative? Doesn't matter.

Well, it's up to you. So if it is, it's on you, mother fucker. Yeah, listen. We just ask for it. Look. Listen. Listen. You deliver.

Listen. Maybe we're kidding. Look. You don't know. Thanks for listening. Thank you. Stay sexy. And don't get murdered.

Bye. That's so annoying. That's horrible. Bye.