My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - MFM Minisode 36

Episode Date: August 17, 2017

This week's minisode comes to you on episode day! Karen and Georgia read your hometown stories including a letter from from a young listener, a surprise lion encounter, a touching ghost story..., and the 'laziest' kidnapping attempt ever.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:48 You look like a little baby today. Do I? Yeah. Thank you. Yes. Youth? Fuck no. I looked at myself and I was like, I like old.
Starting point is 00:01:00 That's nice to hear. Thank you. You're welcome. I'm bloated. And so it's filling out all my wrinkles. I'm bloated and gross. And so, you know, how that fills out your wrinkles. It looks great.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Thank you. The bloated, gross look. Bloated. It's really good on you. Drinking last night works well on you. Yeah. We've started, right? Is this it?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yes. Is this the way? Thank you. I feel like sneak starts are our best way. Sneak starts and compliments. The best way to start anything. Were you in on me telling Georgia she looked like a baby? It was all there for it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Great. Great. Just so people know what I was talking about. Thank you. Yeah. They know that we're actually like nice, I don't know. I don't know why I'm having a fucking depressed day. So it was nice to start with telling me that.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Thank you. That is something nice about me. Good luck. Good luck. You look gorgeous. I did think when I walked in that you look pretty. Your cheeks are really rosy. Your skin is glowy.
Starting point is 00:01:59 It's because I haven't left the house in days. So when I actually go out, I'm like, you guys, I'm out here. Your cells are like, what? Oh my God, outside. That's good. That's better. So happy. The outside with people.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Welcome to my favorite murder. I ate Del Taco last night. Chili cheese fries. Did you, for real? Mm-hmm. Did you drink and then you had some DT afterwards? Yeah. I didn't even drink that much, but it was Vince's birthday and he was like, let's get Del Taco
Starting point is 00:02:24 and I just want to support him. You've got to. You know? Your husband is making you. All I ate was tacos, but I ate fucking chili cheese fries. We get a lot of tweets from people who tell us, I had Del Taco for the first time. Right. Or like, you guys talk about it and we wanted to know.
Starting point is 00:02:39 We wanted it because like, that's your thing. Or what should I order? Right. We've gotten one center. What should I order? I feel like we should tell. I got to say. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Chili cheese fries are fucking on point. They will change your life at 2 a.m. Mm-hmm. Also, there's a, I like, there's just a plain old soft taco. I don't like soft tacos, but their regular tacos are good for sure. Okay. Fine. Also, yeah, they make crinkle cut fries, which is like so junior high.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I know. Caffeteria that it's really heartwarming. They're good. They're guacamole if you dip their french fries in guacamole. Oh yeah. You love that. Oh yeah, look, there's April Richardson's name. We're sitting at the Earwolf Mid-Wolf Studios right now for the very first time.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Oh my God. We're recording. We are here in, we're at the Mid-Wolf, well, there really are the Earwolf Studios. Yeah. Where so many of your favorite podcasts get recorded. Yeah. And there's the table. Nerd poker.
Starting point is 00:03:37 A Hollywood handbook. Who charted? Who charted? Yeah. So charted. Everything is here. We're sitting at, they have this big like wooden table where you record and everyone writes their name when they're here.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And so there's all these like see April Richardson right there, Paul Tompkins right there. Who else is there? Thomas Middleditch I saw over here. Ronan Beverly right here. Just, you know, sure we could just be naming names off the top of our head, but trust us. So that's the names we're looking at at this table. Promise.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And then I just wrote SSDGM right here. Oh, did you? I did. I didn't want to write our names. I thought that might look dumb, but I mean, there's a lot of self-consciousness on this table. You can really see it. There's people who made, who made big swings, who made very bold choices of drawing pictures
Starting point is 00:04:23 or really trying to make a statement. Other people just put their name on here. Anyhow. Goodbye. Anyways. Oh yeah. You already said, but this is my favorite murder. The mini-sob.
Starting point is 00:04:34 That's Karen Kilgarov. That is Georgia Hardstar. Hi. Hi. I think you can do your hometown murders that you send us at my favorite murder. I think this is going to be really distracting for me this table. I can tell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Look into my eyes. I know. I'm like, I am going to. I'm going to demand that they put like a cheap tablecloth down whenever we're going to record him. Because basically you just have to see who's there. Hey, look. No.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Jason Sklar. Jason Sklar. It's just like really, it's really distracting. It is. I'm not going to look at it anymore. Okay. Good. So we read you your mini-sodes that you got.
Starting point is 00:05:05 No. That you send us. That's right. Although if you want to type up a mini-sode the way it should be done. Obviously we're open to. Yeah. Do you want to go? Actually, can I start with this one?
Starting point is 00:05:17 This like girl. Please do. So we got a letter in the mail at our PO box and. Old school. Old school. And there's a piece of lined, you know, regular three line paper, three ring line paper. You got it. There we go.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And you're like, I look at it and this person has written pencil and it's like the cutest. You're like, oh my God, I wrote like that in junior high. Like this person's handwriting is adorable. Okay. Ready for this? Yeah. Dear Karen and Georgia. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Hi. My name is Jayla. I'm a huge fan. Seriously. I'm 13 by the way. Oh my God. My mom got me hooked on this podcast. Mom.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Whenever we're in the car together, it's all we listen to my mom. It's like the cute. Look at this handwriting. I can't. It's like puffy and adorable. And there's an MFM with hearts around it at the top. Jayla. Is her name Jayla?
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's J-E-A-E-L-A. Yeah. Jayla. Okay. We listen to it. I guess I shouldn't have said her last name. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Steven's like, I'm already on that. It's like way ahead of you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's all we listen to. My mom lets me listen to it because quote, because it quote, and stills a healthy fear of murder in me. Smart. But it's a plus.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You guys are hilarious. I have a hometown murder. This one is sick. So a few years ago, a coach of my school kidnapped Hailey Owens and killed her. Witnesses said that he asked her for directions. Then he pulled her into his car. They tried to chase his car, but failed to catch it. A few hours later, she was found dead in his basement, stuffed in a storage bin.
Starting point is 00:06:53 She was only 11. Turns out he was on meth. Some of my friends knew him and some went to school with her. Insane. It was a B with a heart. P.S. In the drawing there, the D's are banjos from the banjo murder stories, and so she made us this drawing to stay sexy, don't get murdered.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Look at that drawing. I swear I'll put it on Instagram. It's like a really cute drawing. It's very cute. The word murder is spelled in like a bunch of, like one is the banjo chorus and then there's like some trees from the forest in there and there's a hatchet and a knife and it's adorable. And then what looks like a, you know, a standard, like a butter knife as well as a murder knife
Starting point is 00:07:35 and axe. Because it's not always planned. That's right. And some rope. Did you notice the U is rope? I just saw that through the paper that you're holding. Oh my God. We'll post that on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Beautiful job. What a horrible, especially from a 13 year old, an absolutely horrible story. It's funny to go from, I'm 13 and we love you. Anyways, I'm 13 and here's the worst murder you've ever heard. There's a incredibly terrible thing that happened to a very young child. Wow. Jayla, I mean, you know, remember to counterbalance your love of true crime with some fun stuff. Please.
Starting point is 00:08:10 What do we recommend for 13 year olds? Rem and Stimpy. I don't know. Bob's Burgers. I mean, just to run around in a circle for a while. Love and happiness. Pinwheels. Puppy.
Starting point is 00:08:21 What do you guys like? Gum. Tons of gum. Just like four pieces of gum at once. Oh my God. Try it. That's my mouth. Just like as much hubba-bubba as you can fit into your mouth.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Okay. Okay, I love it. Here's my first one. Okay. This is called First Responder, The Sheriff, The Lion, The Celebrity, and The Fucked Up Old Couple. That was the original name. The Wizard of Oz was going to be.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Then they're like, you know what, let's get a scarecrow instead of the fucked up old couple because they're too creepy. I guess. Okay. I'm going to go call Karen, Georgia, Steven, and beloved Menagerie. Aw. Brilliant. I had never followed a podcast before MFM, and I have been a vivid, listen, an avid,
Starting point is 00:09:04 sorry. An avid listener. I want her to be a vivid listener. Avid and vivid do look really alike. They're pretty similar. An avid listener said your fourth episode dropped. Yeah. Dropped.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Like a Missy Hellion album. Hellion. What's up? My boyfriend, who has splurged for VIP tickets at the Fort Lauderdale show, by the way. Nice brag, is a first responder. Cool. This story is from 1986, when he was wet behind the ears, 18, I hate that, 18 year old sheriff's deputy and was on a solo midnight shift patrol in rural Florida, Loxahatchee, to be precise.
Starting point is 00:09:44 The call my boyfriend was responding to was a signal 70, which was livestock on the highway. It was 1 AM, so he headed over to the Loxahatchee trailer park, where the call had been generated looking for a sheep or a cow. Seeing none of the aforementioned, he left the safety of his 1980s cop car, think clunky black and white, with one single light bar across the top. Yeah, we know what 80s cop cars look like. Okay. You don't need to cops blame us, right?
Starting point is 00:10:14 We've seen them. We watched chips. No, those are motorcycles, huh? We watched cops. They could have just gone with the obvious one, I think that's what you meant. Probably. Okay. And he went to knock on the trailer door.
Starting point is 00:10:28 The elderly couple who had called, peered through the window at him and started pointing frantically behind him. He turned around to see a fully mained lion walking towards him. Oh my God, I was not expecting that. The elderly couple refused to open their door and let him in, what the actual fuck. In parentheses, it actually says that. So he pulled his gun, again, think 1980s, long, barreled revolver, aka dirty air. And tried to make it back to his cop car, unmalled.
Starting point is 00:11:01 My boyfriend is an animal lover, but as he was desperately trying to fumble through his baseball-sized key fob, no auto unlock back then, and make sure he didn't accidentally shoot his gun off, he dropped his keys as the now interested lion started to pad toward him. Oh my God, oh my God. He made a run for his locked cop car, jumped on top of the light bar, and reluctantly aimed a six-shooter in the lion's direction. As the lion was about to put his front paws up on the car window to get a better sniff
Starting point is 00:11:31 of my man, a long-haired shirtless man came crashing through the bushes, driving a golf cart screaming, don't shoot, don't shoot, he's a friendly lion. My boyfriend yelled back, I don't give a fuck how friendly he is, he's a lion. Get him the fuck away from me or I'll shoot him. The man grabbed the lion by the ear and pulled him into the golf cart passenger seat and zoomed off. I don't even give a shit if this is a lie, this is so enjoyable. But please don't lie on these.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Leaving my boyfriend sweating and shaking on top of his car, gun-drawn keys in the dirt. As he calmed down, he realized that the long-haired man was actor Steve Sipek, who was well-known in the area for owning big cats and playing Tarzan on TV. What? One of the things I really love about being a first responder are the stories he yells or being with a first responder are the stories he tells for something's wrong with my eyes. He yells. What are the yelled stories I heard in it?
Starting point is 00:12:32 The stories he tells about his colleagues, the insider information that I'd never be privy to. For example, for the next two-plus years, my rookie cop would regularly find toy lions in his car, his desk drawer, his locker. Can't wait to meet you in November. Thank you all for the inappropriate times you've made me snort laugh whilst in the gym wearing headphones, SSDGM Linda. That is the best.
Starting point is 00:12:54 That's so hilarious. It's so funny too because my dad always had pranks being pulled on him or was pulling one. I feel like there's something about letting off steam for first responders. My favorite one is they made fun of my dad because he always had the same duffel bag. He brought his stuff to and from the firehouse in this one duffel bag. They accused him of never cleaning it out, but it was always just the same stuff in there. A guy put this old ashtray, it was like an iron ashtray of a Viking boat.
Starting point is 00:13:29 He put that in the bag and my dad said he carried it around for a month before he knew it was in there. They were right. They were right. Oh my God. You could just take out the things that were dirty and watch them and they're like, yeah. Just stuff like that. I mean, he washed his clothes.
Starting point is 00:13:43 No, no, no. I meant you and ashtray in a bag because it was disgusting. That's fucking hilarious. Yeah, I guess it's like, oh, thank God when a case doesn't go horribly wrong, we should at least make fun of it. Yes. Oh, wow. Right?
Starting point is 00:13:57 It's also a way of probably keeping people in line a little bit where it's like the next time you react, you have to think whatever I do, I'm going to get shit for for the next three years. There's going to be a nickname made out of this case or this, whatever. Okay, let me see here. This one's kind of like, we can save it for the end if it's bad, if the ending is bad. So okay, this is called satanic sex ritual stabbing in Milwaukee. Oh, hi all.
Starting point is 00:14:23 That's easy too. Hi all. Wisconsin is definitely not lacking in murders and serial killers, but this was a crazy not murder story that occurred right near my apartment a few years ago. In November, 2011, an 18-year-old man was found naked and bleeding in the street just a few blocks from my apartment. He had been cut and stabbed over 300 times. He was transported to a local hospital while police followed the bloody trail to a nearby
Starting point is 00:14:48 apartment. The door was open and when they went inside, police found knives, duct tape, rope, blood, and books on Satanism and other occult topics, including the necromantic ritual book and the werewolf's guide to life. Have fun with your werewolf, ism. That's so stupid. I know. Go to a carnival.
Starting point is 00:15:10 The werewolf. That's like, that is the dumbest, I immediately picture a werewolf wearing jeans, like with one leg crossed and his hand on his head. Yeah, he's gonna have fun in this life. He's gonna make life worth living. Yeah, sure you're a werewolf, but don't let that hold you back. There's all these other days besides the one day where there's a full moon. Okay, apparently this guy lived in Arizona and met two women online, Rebecca Chandler
Starting point is 00:15:33 and Raven, quote, Scarlett Larrabee. Raven Larrabee. I think you have to pick one or the other. Yeah. If you're already Raven, you don't need Scarlett. No, get that to someone else. Give it to your friend, Lisa. Yeah, give it to another cloth girl.
Starting point is 00:15:47 He took up us to Milwaukee to participate in a consensual satanic ritual act with them. According to the women, the encounter, quote, quickly got out of hand. They tied him up, stabbed him repeatedly and held him captive for two days. According to the hospital, he had approximately 300 wounds on his back, face, arm, legs, and neck, basically everywhere. Rebecca was in the apartment when the cop showed up and blamed most of it on Scarlett, whose real name she didn't know. Both women...
Starting point is 00:16:13 Oh, no. It's Raven. It's just us, Karen. Both women were arrested, but I don't think they were ever charged. The guy survived and apparently updated his Facebook status to, quote, stitches. Stay sexy. Don't get murdered, Laura. Well, he's really...
Starting point is 00:16:31 He's just taking it very lightly. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I guess I did go over there for some satanic sex ritual. I mean, I hope he doesn't blame himself because even though it's a satanic sex ritual, I don't think anybody thinks that that means I'm going to get stabbed 300 times. Once you're tied up, you're not in control anymore. Yeah. So you're kind of tying someone up, I guess?
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah. So you're not... Then fun things are supposed to happen, fun dirty stuff and not stabbing. Right. Silk scars, sexy tie-up stuff. Also, anytime the number is that high, I just go like, just right now, picture poking yourself in the back of the hand 10 times and that's irritating. You get stabbed 300 times.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And then think of it like, what are the nurses called that are still learning how to nurse? No person would count all of those stab wounds. Oh yeah, the medical assistant? Medical assistant. Oh my God. Like, can we just say it's over 40? Please. No.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Just round it up for all of these? No, Derek, you have to count them all. We need it for the file. Okay. This next one, the subject line is beach day with my dead dad. Oh, I saw that movie. It was great. Legend.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Okay. Hi, Karen. Georgia, Steven, Elvis, Mimi, Dottie. Oh, the new guy. I was like, who the fuck is that? Karen, your face when you said Dottie, I knew you had been paying attention when I talked about how cute she is. Dottie.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Dottie? Who the hell? Oh, Dottie. George and all the other precious animal friends everywhere. Well, fuck Frank. He gets nothing. Okay. First of all, I promise this isn't a week in a burning situation.
Starting point is 00:18:09 She knew. Secretly, I love your, oh, secondly, I love your podcast. I mean, something's wrong. I mean, that's probably true for a lot of people, though. That is actually very true. Did you see the girl that took the picture of the back of the guy? And she said, um, he's so pissed that we're listening to your podcast on the way to Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And you said, I kind of, I'm on his side right now. I'm on his side. That's so uncool. If someone doesn't want to listen to my parents murder, I think they are in the right. Well also just being forced to listen to a podcast, like that's, that's not car consensus. That's not fun times road trip. No. We're, our personality is being forced on some poor dude who looks like he just wants
Starting point is 00:18:49 to listen to car talk. Yeah. But like, you don't have to listen to car talk either. You both can listen to. Hey, you go, you meet in the middle. Yeah. Terrence Trent-Dorvey. You can listen to, what's a neutral podcast?
Starting point is 00:19:03 This American life is a good one. Everyone likes that. There's something for everyone. You know what Vincent and I like to listen. Oh, we put it on when you were in the car that one time, a Stone Cold Steve Austin podcast. The best. Something for everyone. It is so funny.
Starting point is 00:19:14 It is the most enjoyable thing to, next time ladies, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls together in a car, don't force your personal beliefs on other people. Just listen to Stone Cold Steve Austin. It's a podcast. Listen to the one where he talks to himself where there's no guests. Yes. I mean, it's out literal hours of entertainment. Truly so enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So good. Okay. So yeah. There. All right. Secondly, I love your podcast. I cannot wait to see you guys in Madison in October. Hi.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Can't wait. I naturally started listening to you the week after you were in Milwaukee. Y'all were amazing. Make my days at work go by so much faster. Thank you. Here's my ghost story. Sorry to disappoint, but it's not a scary one and no one was murdered. My dad died when I was 16 years old.
Starting point is 00:20:03 We were incredibly close and I was a total daddy's girl. Losing him was really hard. That's such a young age to lose a parent. I'm sorry. Every year on his birthday, I would try to do something nice to remember and celebrate him by doing some of his favorite things, drink martinis, watch Old Westerns go outside, eat apple pie. Go outside.
Starting point is 00:20:20 See, I'm not like your dad. I don't go outside. Okay. So a few years ago, I was feeling especially bummed on his birthday, just missing him a lot. So I decided to go out of town. I was living in Green Bay at the time and I found myself in Manitowoc. Is that how you pronounce it?
Starting point is 00:20:37 It's the one from Making a Murderer. Yeah. I think you're right. I think. Manitowoc. I was driving down some side road by the lake where I found the tiniest little beach completely separate from everything and everyone and everything. The beach was maybe 30 feet by 20 feet.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I'm not a geometrist. It was small. There were two chairs on the beach. So I decided to pull over and sit in one of the chairs and just watch the lake. There was absolutely no one around, perfect because I really knew I needed to ugly cry and I didn't want anyone to see. When I sat down, I immediately started crying. But then I suddenly felt fine, felt totally fine.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I felt comforted and safe, a complete 180. After an hour of watching the waves, I got up to leave the beach and on my way out, I saw, clear as day, my name written in the sand, Kate. It was at least three feet tall. I know I would have seen this on my way in. It took up most of the beach. Ooh, I just got chills. I got chills if I am my whole body.
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Starting point is 00:24:03 Goddamn you, Steven. She's saying that because Steven picked it. This is not a random. You ladies keep it up. I have no cool witty closing. I'm sure it'll come to me after I send this love, Kate, P.S. Karen, you were amazing on How Did This Get Made in Georgia. Your drunk history gives me life.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Okay, bye. Oh my God. Sorry, that got me good. Yeah. That got me good. Seeing her name in the sand and then it spelled differently. And also she walked in that way unless somebody snuck up and as a nice treat wrote her name in the sand.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Well, then it's just creepy. Well, yeah. Then it goes the opposite direction. That's not a nice treat. And someone followed her from fucking Green Bay and knew her name and knew the spelling. That was magical. And that there were two seats there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And that she didn't, she went to like purge it, but then it was like, oh no, that's not actually how I feel. And then chilled it out. Daddy. I mean, that was beautiful. Yay. That's your dad. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:24:58 That made, that got me. Same here. Um, should I read, I've done two now because I did Jayla's. Should I do one more? Yeah. Want to? Have you done two? Well, I did the, I did the opening one.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Right. And then I did my satanic sexual one. Oh, that's right. Okay, yeah. Do another one. Okay. Right? Steven's like, no.
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Starting point is 00:29:04 Okay, so that's warbyparker.com slash MFM, you get your free home try-ons today, check it out, post pictures, you'll love them, Warby Parker, okay, bye. I survived question mark, the laziest kidnapping attempt in history and then it says light-hearted explanation mark, everything about this. All right, hello, Murderino family. I wanted to write in about this for a long time but I have anxiety, have you heard of it, but I finally worked up the nerve. Can you imagine having anxiety to write a funny, you're honey, you're fine, oh okay.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Diana, you're good, I got it. I grew up in a quiet suburb on Long Island, not much happening there but my first job at 15 years old quickly led me, led to me being a manager at a carvel in a not so nice area by 16 years old, carvel, they do the whale thing. That's right. We finally fudge you the whale. They finally have them out here now like in the grocery store freezer section but we've never, Californians have never had a freestanding carvel store.
Starting point is 00:30:08 No, I've never had fudgy the whale view. And we've never, no, and I've never seen any commercials. Have it for our 100th episode, we have a fudgy the whale. Steven, please. Steven, Steven, can we have a fudgy the whale? Can we have a, okay, for when we're a hundred, blah, blah, blah, 16 years old by manager. Remember that when you had a job as a kid and they're like, you're a manager and you're like, I'm a manager.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Sounds great. I guess I have keys now. Right. I thought I was big timing at Hot Topic. Okay. To give you an idea, we were robbed multiple times at Knife Point and I once broke up a violent fight in the parking lot while police cars sat quietly nearby. No.
Starting point is 00:30:47 That's what the neighborhood was like. So one night as a tiny child, so one night as a tiny manager child, I was locking up the store alone at 10 p.m. after the last employee left. Well, I sat outside to wait for my father because obviously I couldn't drive myself yet. The parking lot was empty and dark with the exception of one shady-looking white van on the far corner of the lot. After only a moment of me being outside, the van's lights turned on and it sped around a lot to pull up and screech to a halt in front of me.
Starting point is 00:31:14 The driver didn't do anything at all, but the side door flew open and an older man was crouched inside. Oh, I see the driver was just sitting there and an older man. There's two guys. Three. Yeah. Let's see. And he yelled at me.
Starting point is 00:31:32 He looked at me and yelled at me, get in aggressively. And instead of running for my life and tear, I politely said, oh, no, thank you, as if this were normal. The man paused, looked like he was thinking over what to say next, and finally said, it's really cold outside? As though it were a question and not an objective fact about 10 p.m. in December. At the time, I was just confused and I said, okay, still no, thank you. And the man made a disappointed, hepping sound and slam the sliding door closed and the van
Starting point is 00:32:05 drove off and out of the lot in a hurry. A few minutes later, my dad shut up and I told him about the weird thing that happened. He freaked out, obviously, and even as I was retelling it, I realized just how messed up it was that even just minutes later. Anyway, that's how I survived a very lazy crime through absolutely no fault of my own. I hope you enjoyed it. I just wanted to add that as an avid murderer and current sex worker, you guys are angels for trying to contribute to the frequent stereotyping and mockery of violence against sex workers.
Starting point is 00:32:34 My day job is in healthcare and I can tell you that while my colleagues and I face violent behavior at both my jobs, at one it's considered a tragedy, at the other it's met with, well, what did you expect? I love you all. Please stay sexy and don't get murdered, Diana. Wow. Yeah. Well, first of all, that story is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Oh my God. No, thank you. Yeah, you know. I would do that. You know what? No, I don't. Yeah, I'm not gonna. But it's just a polite thing of, no, thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah. K? Fuck you. No. No, thank you. Not gonna do your dumb thing. Oh, it's so good. Oh, it's really good.
Starting point is 00:33:15 That was good to hear from you and I'm glad you made that point about sex workers. Yeah. I think when people get to speak for themselves. Totally. Oh yeah, totally. All right, should we do this last one? Okay. This, the subject line is the battlements of celestial fire.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Ready? Mm-hmm. Hi, Karen, Georgia, Stephen, Elvis, Mimi, Dottie, Frank and George. That's someone that did the whole lineup. They did their research. You really don't have to do that anymore. I like murdering a family is really succinct. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Okay. Although I understand it's fun to say that. Yeah. It's fun to see the variations because you never know what we're gonna get. That's right or who's gonna die. Okay. I went to a hippie college in Western Massachusetts. There were a lot of urban legends floating around like the velvet Elvis painting that
Starting point is 00:33:57 had once been used to smuggle coke and the guy who lived naked inside a rolled up carpet. I'm sorry. We're gonna need two separate emails about those, please. Okay. But this story is my favorite and it's one that actually happened when I was there. There was this guy. His friends call him Spidey in my freshman class. He was an unsavory character who wore sparkly shirts and was a shitty DJ at parties.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Oh God. This just makes me think of my friend Dave Davood who is a DJ and but he doesn't wear bad shirts. Okay. I heard multiple eyewitness accounts of people entering their shared dorm bathroom to find Spidey wearing a bathrobe and washing his dick off in the sink. Ew. And then after having sex with his girlfriend, parentheses side note, said girlfriend once
Starting point is 00:34:49 told me I looked like a parrot and yelled at me for leaving my dresser drawers open. Fucking college, man. A parrot. You look like a parrot. Okay. Well, those are beautiful. So, and it's on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:04 They're smart. So Spidey, aka Dick Wash, who was apparently a coke dealer, one day a rumor started floating around that he got caught and kicked out of school a few hours later, a post appeared on the college message board by someone calling themselves the Battlements of Celestial Fire. Oh my God. A self-proclaimed on-campus anti-drug vigilante group. They claimed responsibility for Spidey getting caught. They said that they had set off the fire alarm by lighting a fire outside Spidey's room.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Then when Spidey left, they'd gone in and taken all of the drugs out, put them in plain sight so campus security could see them. You don't have to light the fire, you can just pull the fire alarm, right? No fire is actually needed for a fire alarm to go off. So these assholes are like, drugs are bad, we're going to start a fire that might hurt people. Fire is good. Fire is good.
Starting point is 00:35:54 The drugs are bad. Fucking place where people live. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Battlements of Celestial Fire warned everyone that they were on a mission to eradicate drugs from the whole school. Spoiler alert. That's fun. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Hippies love drugs. They tried to stay anonymous, but we figured out who they were. A bunch of square white dudes. I always picture them in all white wearing Oakley's fucking narcs. Bye. I love you guys. Okay. That was more of like a mystery drug story.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I like it. Sure. I mean, so it turned out that the drug, the dick washing was just a, just a, you know, like an interesting enhancement of a story. Exactly. Like painting the picture. That's it. Painting the picture.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah. With dick washing. An embellishment. Wow. You didn't paint the, you didn't paint the picture. You washed the dick of the story. Now I'm thinking of our 11 year old that listens. 13.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Don't worry. Wait. Who was a lot? I thought someone was 11. The girl who got murdered and her story was 11. They're all babies. No. No one was 11.
Starting point is 00:37:00 All right. But come on. You knew, you, you laughed at dick jokes when you were 13. Hell yeah. At 11. Please. Dick jokes. Come on.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah. What's more exciting? I had the, um, the book truly tasteless jokes. Oh, I had that too. Oh, I used to carried around. I couldn't believe how you're like, what's his name in your back pocket you had instead of catch her in the ride, you had truly taste. Mark David Chapman.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah. They're like, she's fine. Don't worry. She'll be, yeah. Don't worry. She'll go off on her own for a while. All she's going to do is kill it at every show. She fucked it in her pocket.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Come on. Yes. Yeah. You're killing it. All right guys. This has been, uh, the most insane mini-sode I think we've done so far. Uh-huh. Uh, thank you guys for listening.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Send your, send your, not mini-sodes, but your hometown murders and beyond to my favorite murder at Gmail. I think right now we're doing first responder. We like a ghost story. Love a ghost story. Um. I mean, clearly there's no. There's not a lot of rules.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Yeah. We just want to hear great stuff. Just great stories you have to tell us. Yes. A crime, a crime involved or something like that would be great. A threat of crime helps just because we're supposed to be doing a certain kind of podcast. Right. Because people tuning in in the morning on their commute on Monday morning are like,
Starting point is 00:38:13 can I please? I just want this one thing that I like. One story that has the theme of the show. Just one, one bloody act. Right. Um, but thanks. Thanks for listening everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Stay sexy. And don't get murdered. Bye.

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