My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - MFM Minisode 66

Episode Date: April 16, 2018

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And do you want me to go first? Yes. I'm jacked up for you to go first. Oh, we usually say this is where you send us your hometowns, stories, murder stories to have in your hometown. But now we've opened up to all variety of things. Just stories. Just, just kind of a good story.

Yeah. Like, do you have a kind of cool story that you tell someone maybe two beers in because there's not much else to talk about? Yeah. Send it to us. Dig deep. What's that weird thing your uncle found in Germany when he was posted over there for our, our mates duty.

Exactly. That kind of stuff. Yeah. Nazi gold. And Nazi gold is a gold mine. If you, if you know where the Nazi gold train is buried, we'd love to hear about it. Tell us. So this first one, the subject line is a murderer as an acting scene partner, parentheses, a

very LA story. Hey, Karen, George, Steven and animal friends. A few weeks ago, my friend Alexis, who's an actress in LA, as am I, was in his teen study class and they had to pick a scene partner to meet outside class, rehearse, et cetera, as you do. No. So she didn't really know anyone in the class, but it briefly met this guy, Chris. So they picked each other as partners.

They exchanged numbers. But when Alexis texted him a few days later to rehearse, he didn't get back to her. She texted him a few more times and then a week later, he finally responded saying, can't do it. Something came up. A few days later, she was reading a news article about the young missing actress, Adia Shabani, when she chose, when she saw that the girl's boyfriend, Chris Spots, her acting partner had led the police on a chase across Los Angeles County in a stolen car, then fatally

shot himself after the pursuit. A day or so later, police found Adia's remains in a shallow grave outside Sacramento and Chris is the main suspect in the murder. Oh my God. AKA, he did it and then killed himself when pursued. Oh, and it came out that the douchebag had a fiancee outside of LA. So basically, my friend almost did a scene with a murderer and a cheater. Stay sexy and don't choose murder as acting partners, Ariana.

When did he find the time to even text her, sorry, something's come up? Yeah, what? People have ghosted people for so much less than that. I want to know the timeline of like when that text was sent. I bet you she was really hounding him. Yeah. She's just like, guys, look, we've got to get this scene for Danny and the Deep Blue Sea together.

You're really screwing me over. I'm not going to get a bad grade because you can't get it to get it. I'm kind of busy right now. He's like, I'm having a psychotic break and doing terrible things. Oh, that's so horrible. That's awful. Um, okay. This one's called, so I guess both my parents work with murderers.

Hi, MFM, humans and animals. Great. Well done. Basically, he got me hooked on the podcast when we were driving around the country on tour doing children's theater. Oh, this is an actor's episode. It's kind of a theme. Um, but I've been a murderer in us since childhood.

My mom worked in criminology when I was growing up and she used to sit me down in front of the sex offenders registry database, which she helped create because she's a badass and tell me that all those were bad people, even the woman who looked like a grandma. That is amazing. That's horrifying. I love her mom. She not only made the sex offenders database, she made her daughter study the faces of the sex offenders.

You know why that's such a good idea? Because it's like going, they look like anybody at Costco. That's I think what her point was is like that sale little old lady, sex offender. Do not trust. So, uh, uh, then the next line of the last one of the paragraphs paragraph is, thanks for the trust issues, mom. Yeah. That's the only problem we got.

Yeah. Uh, she also told me about how when she was working in jails in the 80s, there was a liquor store down the street and the guards would let inmates who were in for drug crimes and other minor things go there and get beer or whatever. Wow. Uh, just do a 7-Eleven run? Uh-huh. Wow.

We were in there for drug crimes. Right. Yeah. It's not as bad as something. I mean, these days, drug crimes are. Free them all. Free them all. Free them all.

For real. Most of them. Okay. Free them all when they're not, when there's no violent offenses. These are just the drug crimes. We're only talking drug crimes. No violent offenses, nothing beyond, but there's so many just like low-key dealers. Well, did you hear what she says, uh, Cynthia Nixon's quote about like, we need to, yeah.

About legalizing pot. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty incredible. I can't say it offhand. Okay. Um, I could go on and on about my mom's crime stories forever, but I'll get to the murder.

I was just talking to my father when he goes, remember that I'm going to do dad voice. Remember that guy at work who asked for time off and it turned out it was because he had murdered his wife and I was like, um, no, I would definitely remember that. Apparently this guy he worked with Galen murdered his wife in 1983 and then drove her body in the car, parked it behind a bar in the lab, really staged the scene to look like a robbery. My dad remembers him claiming his wife was abusive, but I can't find anything about that in reading about the case. So I think he just doesn't want to believe he had worked with a murderer.

Galen was out on appeal when he was working with my dad and had to request the aforementioned time off to go stand trial. Oh, shit. He ended up pleading guilty and went to prison for a few years. So then the job, were they going to hold the job for him? Oh. I went back home at the same pay rate a couple years later. What the fuck?

Fuck. The whole reason my dad brought it up was because, uh, when they worked together, Galen had claimed to be involved in the creation of Dungeons and Dragons. Oh. So I'm Googling and I can't find anything to back that up, SSDGN, uh, M, SSDGM, Alana. Oh, I also created Dungeons and Dragons. Me too. Me too.

Me too. Uh, they won't credit us because they're jealous. Yeah. Yeah. I was only three years old and I... But I felt the need to create it. Okay. Ready for the subject line?

Absolutely. My mom was married to Drew Peterson and coincidence. Uh, that's a coincidence. That's big stuff. So, let's see, last mini-sode episode, there was the coincidence letter about a woman who was being, they were, they were trying to pick the jury for a murder case and it turned out it was her nephew's murder case and she was dismissed. And we said, send us your fucking coincidences, which I, and Stephen gave me five coincidences

to choose from this time, which I was like, he's like the first five are murder and the last five are coincidences and I just went to the last five immediately. Yes. It's my favorite. You're like, give me them coincidences. Some people say there's no such thing. You decide. You tell us.

Hello. Yes, my mom was Drew Peterson's first wife. My two older half brothers are his sons. Thank God my mom said sexy or I wouldn't be here. This is not my hometown, so I won't bore you with the details. Are you fucking joking me? Bore me with the details. We bore me all day long.

Um... We have never done Drew Peterson. No, we haven't. But I did the Drew Peterson, um, made for TV movie on Mal's podcast, Mother May I Sleep with Podcast. That's right. And Steven was there. We talked for like over two hours.

Yeah, that episode, yeah, it was like three hours. It's the funniest made for TV movie. It's Rob Lowe as Drew Peterson. It's so nuts. Amazing. I did an Amish, an Amish chick gets pregnant. That's not really what it's called. Oh, for your episode?

Yeah. Yeah. Mother May I Sleep with Podcast. So good. What did I call it again? Amish my period. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was it.

That's what I called it. Amish my period. Amish podcast. Uh, yeah. Listen to, um, Molly McAleer's podcasts. She has... Does she still do Please Advise? Yeah.

Please Advise is going, um, Mother May I Sleep with Podcast is kind of on haters right now. But there's a ton of episodes you can listen to. There's a... Yeah. She's already recorded a ton and they're so good and she's so... She's such a good interviewer slash conversation holder. She's just so dry. Yeah.

And she has a totally unique, fascinating personality that I want to talk to forever. She acts like she doesn't care. And then you find out she's the cariest person you've ever met in your life. Isn't that always the way? It's totally the way. Okay. Okay. Um, so, uh, we're like yelling at this person for not telling us more and then we just change

the subject out of Drew Peterson entirely. Sorry. It's fine. Um, okay. It's our podcast. This is not my hometown so I won't bore you with the details that you're probably sick of hearing about. Oh, no.

Not in the least. I want to give a shout out to my brother who has custody of Drew's brood. He is doing a bang up job raising those kids considering the fucked upness they have to live with. Wow. That's hard. That's amazing. Okay.

Anyway, this is more to her point. My hometown murder happened in 1994 in a western suburb of Chicago when I was 10 years old. I was walking home from a friend who lived about two blocks away from my house. I passed a house which we could see from our front window that had ambulances everywhere and police cars pulled up on the lawn. That's bad. On the lawn, really?

Yeah, police pull up as close to the front door as possible. Yeah. Something very bad has happened. What does it mean? It's like they're like, they, I don't know, they didn't stop on the street. Yeah. Emergency that yells to me. I never thought of that.

Just again, get up there. That's a good, that's a good observation. Oh, thanks so much. I got home and nobody knew what was going on. Turns out this guy lost it because one of his stepkids didn't clean their room so he shot up his family. Jesus. His wife and stepdaughter and killing his seven year old son.

So sad. Fast forward 10 years and I'm working in a salon fairly new to doing hair. I had a new client sit in my chair and get to talking. We discovered that we lived in the same intersection growing up. So I say, remember that dad that went crazy and killed a son? She replies with, yeah, that was my stepdad. My jaw drops. I apologize profusely.

Talk about a foot in the mouth situation. I was so embarrassed that I don't remember the rest of the conversation, but she did say she wasn't home when it happened, needless to say, I never saw her again. Lesson learned, don't talk about murder with a new client. You're trying to keep in your chair, Lauren. Can you imagine having to cut that woman's hair after that? This reminds me of the very few times in the VIP meet and greet line when someone will say, you talked about my aunt, you talked about my cousin or something and both of us

freeze and we're just like, are you okay? Are you mad at us? Yes. Do you want to hate us? I never have they said anything except for you did it well, which is why I'm telling you this because I'm bragging about us. No, but I mean, that feeling of... They'll say my uncle was blah, blah, blah, my aunt was so and so and you're like, I'm

sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I mean, these are real people. Totally. It's the thing that people always ask us about, but for the most part, you don't have to interact face to face with it, but she was doing what everybody else that isn't directly involved in what it does, which is, oh my God.

This is so exciting. It's so terrible. Right. It's so like, can you believe this insane thing happened in our neighborhood? Yeah. And that sucks, man. We feel you. We know that you're a good person, Lauren.

We feel you. If you could get through that haircut, you're a good hairdresser, I feel like. She's has like hands of steel now. Totally. Nothing rocks that woman's world. All right, this one's called a middle schooler and a mom walk into a parking lot. This is a coincidence. It's not a coincidence actually, but it's a funny story.

Okay, good. One typical day when I was in elementary school, my mom Jill, who was a firm believer, much like Karen's quote, we aren't the Rockefellers grandma and picking up any change she finds in the ground was dragging me around her usual errand route, the bank, grocery store, target, etc. Much to her delight. She asked to fold it up dollar bill in the parking lot and of course there goes Jill jogging over to grab it when she picked it up.

She could tell that it wasn't just a single bill. So she exclaimed, look at this. I bet those I bet there's multiple dollars in here, tucked it in her back pocket and literally spent the whole time in the grocery store talking about the luck she had finding this money. We got back to the car. When we got back to the car, she handed me the dollar and told me I could open it up and keep whatever was inside.

Very excited. You and I right now, when we hear this thing, oh my God, she just gave her kid five hundred dollars. It's something exciting, right? Yes. No. Oh. Excitedly, I opened the wadded money and inside was not another bill as my mom had predicted,

but two dime bags of cocaine. Too late. You said I get to keep it. It's mine. I said, mom, I think these are drugs. As dare had just come to our school the week before, I was pretty confident in what it was. I was saying, Jill, who took her first shot of liquor at the age of 58, asked, are you

sure they aren't just smarties? Oh, honey. Jill. Oh, honey. Wait, pills of cocaine? No. I think it was like powder. Oh.

But she just like ground up smarties. I think she thought it might be. Well, we might as well do it and see. Let's. It's a liquor stick. Let's see this. Yes. They're wrapping candy in dollar bills and throwing it into the parking lot.

Jill. No. She snatched the wand back from me and spent the car ride home talking about the exciting new details to this mystery dollar case. At home, she showed everything to my dad. He decided calling the cops was too much of a hassle and flushed the bags down the toilet. But hey, I still got to keep the dollar, SSDGM, Olivia. It turns out that, you know, those, those like drug busts where they're like, you know,

they're shipping bathtubs and then it turns out the bathtub is not porcelain, it's made of cocaine. That's not real. Yes. They like, they, they have like drug busts where it's like they just pour cocaine into the molds of other things. Okay. But it's in, but there has to be something keeping the cocaine together.

Yeah. Yeah. They, they like, they find it with, yeah, have you seen this, Steven, do you know what I'm talking about? They like break. He doesn't know what to do. I want it to be in the lining of the coke of the porcelain mold. You break the porcelain and then cocaine comes out because you can't make cocaine that

hard. Can you? It's like a Jell-O mold, but bathtub shaped. You, Steven, look it up and then he'll explain it. Now I'm only just want a Jell-O bathtub. Maybe this is just my dream of a cocaine bathtub. I think we're both talking about what we really want to be real. For Christmas.

You know, why are we talking about it? I don't know. Oh no. Because we're clearly drug dealers. Yes. And we're sending out a secret message. We're sophisticated drug mules. What?

I like, not like, but respect. Drugs? Yes. I definitely respect drugs. The idea that you would think of that idea where you, if you, if you fold it up a dollar and threw it up a car window and then a cocaine inside, when the cops saw somebody go pick up a dollar, it could be anybody and you wouldn't question it because anybody would pick up a dollar bill.

Cut that out, Steven. You just told everyone how to fucking deal drugs just now. Do this thing everybody, leave the drugs in the parking lot. Anything, Steven? Or did I dream cocaine bathtub? I think you dreamed. I think your house is full of cocaine bathtubs. Steven, you have four minutes to find that out.

Here's the problem is Karen tried to snort her bathtub once. When she was black, when she was an alcoholic. That's why I'm 30 minutes late for everything is I just keep scratching on the bathtub. You've just been snorting porcelain for fucking years. Yes. That's where the seizures are coming from. That's it. That's my neurological damage.

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Y'alls. And it's there's a pick included. Hey guys, in 2005, I was living in London putting myself through uni by working as a waitress at the Hard Rock Cafe near a high park I've been in. Have you really? Yeah. And our like high school trip to Europe where you went to like 10 countries in two days. Let's go there when we're in London.

I used to have a Hard Rock London shirt. We're getting a new one for you. Awesome. We stood in line for so long for that fucking shirt. There's a line? Well, there was in 1987. Oh, yeah. That makes sense.

God, that was a long time ago. Okay. I became close friends with a Canadian girl who lived with her boyfriend of five years Paul when the movie Wolf Creek came out, which is loosely based on Malat, Ivan Malan. I asked and if she and her man wanted to go to which he replied in a very polite Canadian way, probably not. My boyfriend is the guy that escaped him in real life. What the fuck?

Onions. Onions. Onions. And buttons. Of course, I asked her to tell me everything she knew. She said that they started dating a couple of years after the trial and then having to go back and face Malat haunted him to that day. Of course it fucking did.

It's nightmare. The monstrous monster. That story that I did when we were in Australia was so fucking awful talking through it, whatever that show was, where I had to just keep being like, and then he walked her out into the middle of fucking wilderness. And then her car ran out of gas and then, yeah, but you did a great job. I still remember it. And I don't remember anything.

I don't remember this morning. I mean, listen, it brought us Paul Onions. So it was worth it. That poor fucking man who hates us. He hates our guts. There's no way he's not like every once in a while getting a message. Guys, seriously, please leave Paul Onions alone. I just keep posting like a new on Instagram.

There'll be like another really great drawing of Paul Onions logo and I'll post it and be like, he has a restraining order against us now, but I have to post it. We can do it for ourselves and just like him as a concept, we don't know him as a person. We don't have to be in his life. Please don't try to contact poor fucking Paul Onions. God, it's a nightmare. But if you do, tell him we love him. Yes.

Tell him thank you. If you're already friends with him. Tell him we think he's a hero. Give him just a nice rub on the middle back. I'm sorry that I can't say your name offhand, but to whoever the person is who made me a keychain with an onion on it, with eyes and a face and I believe it was maybe Salt Lake City or maybe Cleveland or Columbus. I can't remember.

I use it every day. That's my keychain now just so you know it's because they gave it to me and I was like, this is so nice. Thanks. And she looked at me and she was like, it's look it's Paul Onions. It's basically a human onion. It's the best. All right.

It's a bloom in human onion. It's a bloom. Oh, wait. I'm going to come in and have a beer at the bar waiting for her when we were closing up at 1 a.m. Even though it was many years later and it seemed to be something that troubled them enough to still, they never felt right, still, it never felt right to bring it up or ask them about it as a series.

It's good call. Yes. You fucking lunatic. Oh my God. Don't ever do that. You and the haircutting girl should hang out, teach each other some lessons. Hey, how about this overall life lesson? Zip it, zip it until you're fucking best friends.

You're doing a little bit of a like a blood brother ceremony. You have to be like in it to win it. They drive you to the airport type of friends. You've already told them about your deepest darkest secrets. Yes. How about you go first? You go fucking first with like some horrible, weird, terrible bad memory and you lay it all in the next.

And then dig around. Immediately tell them you're I got pants in fifth grade and then they're going to be like, I'm sorry, what? I just met you. Yeah. I don't want to do this with you. I don't know nothing. Never mind.

We're yelling so much at Emily when she doesn't really deserve it, but we just want to we just want to be protective of our precious Paulinians and anyone that's had an experience like that. And now she goes and tells us business. They split up a couple of years later and though I am still close with the Canadian girl. I haven't seen him in years and hope he has found some small portion of peace with his experience. Oh, that's nice.

I've included a photo from pub drinks after work for you, Karen. I hope this email reaches you now that I finally wrote it as a SDGM, Emily and L.A. Emily. That's nice. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Okay. We can't post this.

But we'll just tell you. Explain it. He is. It's pub drinks. So it's he's standing there with a beard in his hand. A pint. A pint of bitters. A pint.

He is the cutest smile on his face. And he looks like a very happy man. He looks like an Edgar Wright character and he'd be in an Edgar Wright movie. He looks like he would be the he looks like Hugh Grant would play him in the movie. He's like kind of hot, you guys. He's got a great fucking face and he looks happy. A great Australian face. Yes.

Is he Australian? No, he's British. He's got a great British face. He's got the kind of face where you're like, oh, he's super cute. And then you find out he's British and he's so much hotter. So much cuter. Like, yeah. Because you know, he'd speak to you in low, lilting tone.

Yeah, and he's like probably a fun drunk. Yep. He's like sings like British songs when he's drunk. He fucking like, he's like, we got to get chips when he's drunk all the time and you're another pint of bitters. You're right. We have to get chips. You just want to put this out there, though.

Okay. Because maybe Heath is finding it funny. Maybe like Jennifer Moray, he's like, oh, you guys put a positive spin on like this horrible thing that happened to me. And I appreciate it. I'm just saying we're going to be in London in Manchester. So if he does feel that way and wants to come to one of our shows, please, please, Paul, and I swear to God, we're really normal.

Nobody, this is his decision. Do not tell him or anything, but it gets to him verbally through friendship. Sure. And he wants to come. Yeah. He can come to any show in the UK. And you can come and hang out backstage with men so you don't have to go in the audience because the audience is going to fucking fan girl all over you and eat photos with you.

Yeah. Or you can do it your way. It's your way. And that way could include being carried in on a sedan chair if you want it to be that way. Absolutely. I doubt he wants it to be that way. Or we could just go get a pint of bitters after the show.

Can you imagine? I can imagine. I would doubt it. What if we got sour cream and onion ones and we're like, Paul, sour cream and onion. Wait, you can say... Oh, he just said no. He just heard me say that. I was like, never mind.

Bitters. That's what... Isn't that beer in British? A pint of bitters I thought was like those herbs that you take with soda water when your stomach is upset? No. I think bitters are beer. Could be.

You know what? This is a lesson we're going to learn when we're in England. They're going to scream it at us. I mean, I hope you live it. This is my ploy to get them to send me a pint backstage because you can't get anything backstage. I can't get anything backstage. I can't get anything I need.

Stephen, just real quick, tell us what the British version of bitters means. Yeah. I mean, we'll just sit here quietly and wait and watch you. This is solid podcasting. I didn't find the bathtub, but they did use a t-shirt can and to shoot drugs over the border. That's good. I'm going to find that bathtub and show it to you.

I will find it. And then a pint of bitters. Bitters are beer. A type of beer. Get your check. Or. Or. I know what bitters are.

Oh, like an English bitter. An English bitter is like a beer. It is. George is a cocktail person. She knows her shit. Oh, it is. It is a type of beer. Thank God.

Suck my bitters. Is it? Yeah. The bitter style came from brewers who wanted to differentiate these ales from other mild brews. Yeah, it's light. It's a light beer. When George said suck my bitters, both hands went out and then both hands gestured in toward

her bitters. Yeah, I did the second gesture of Steve Austin's karate hand sucker gesture. It's so cold Steve Austin's. Is that his thing? Yeah. And he goes boom, boom with his, with his pelvis. Oh, it's just, it's, it's very offensive. It's very late 90s.

You know, it's a way to say suck it. If you, if you're talking to someone who's hard of hearing, they know immediately what you mean. That's important. All right. That's the mini-soad. Send us your anything. Send us anything.

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