My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - MFM Minisode 84

Episode Date: August 20, 2018

This week’s hometown episode features stories of people hiding secret lives. Brought to you by @SearchingMovie.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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want to do like a special mini-sode where it would be like a big long commercial for this movie. So come down to Sony and watch this movie in one of their screening rooms. And like these little theaters, it's like a little, like if you were rich and had a mansion and had like a movie screening room, it's like that and the chairs are huge and comfy and it's like, it's like, it was awesome. It was really fancy. The Sony lot's old. It's like one of those ones that's in Culver City. It's been there forever. Gorgeous. And we were just like living the highlights in this screening. And then we got to see a movie that we actually liked because I think both of us, as the credits were rolling, to begin with, we were like, oh, wait a second. What if this is terrible? This is like

one of the many films I see on a weekly basis and enjoy because of the badness. We were like, oh, no. But thank God, I think like 10 minutes and I was like, okay, we're safe. Yes. John Cho is like the freaking best actor. Okay. So if you saw Harold and Kumar, I'm sure that's not the first credit he would love for us to give, although he might be quite proud. It's one of my favorites. But John Cho is the lead in this movie and Deborah Messing is the another lead, maybe first lead, maybe second lead. I don't know. This is one of my favorite things about living in Los Angeles is or to me, the best thing is you can live in Los Angeles. You can go into a movie theater, watch a movie, come out and then accidentally run into the person that was in the movie.

That's right. And so very soon after I saw Harold and Kumar in the theater, I was at a Starbucks very, very near you and he was walking out as I was walking in. I don't think, I think it was the next morning. It wasn't the same day. The next morning. But it was the next morning and he had this little like hat on. He is so good looking in real life. It was like, he's very star like in real life. So it was very exciting. So to see him in like kind of his own movie or like it's a vehicle for him was super, super cool. And then we can't thriller and there's just like crazy twist at the end. The thing is we can't tell you about the most interesting part of it. Of course. But it's essentially, we told you hear the ads, you know, it's really cool.

Karen, of course, as a TV writer was three steps ahead of me in understanding what the twist was. She was like, I know what it is. And then I just started guessing and I was wrong. But it was, it was really fun. But I have to say, usually no brag in most movies, I get the twist much quicker than that. And I was really hunting for it. And I was just, and then when I got it, I was like, okay, but it's that's part of the fun. I never get the twist. And I guess so wrong, constantly, loudly. So it's fun going movies with me. You know why I think I do that is because I saw the sixth sense with my friends and all of them are like, it was so obvious from the beginning. And I was like, no, it wasn't until the very final moment. Did I know how great that feeling was

when like suddenly it was revealed and you're like, holy shit, yes, you have to go watch it again. Yes. So that's what okay, searching is in line with one of those thrillers where you're like, what did I just see what's happening? And it's very so it's very we're very excited to be doing this. Oh, and so it's Sony is giving away a bunch of tickets to the screening on the 23rd. If you are in the fan club, exactly. So we're going to post these links in the fan club. It's a ton of cities. Steven, Steven's going to read them very fast right now. Go Atlanta, Austin, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Houston, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Miami, Minneapolis, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix,

Pittsburgh, Portland, Sacramento, San Antonio, San Diego, Seattle, St. Louis, Tampa, Toronto, and Washington, DC. Yes. So it was amazing, Steven. If you're in the fan cult and you live near any of those cities, go onto the fan cult forum. These links will be put up. You can get two passes and go watch this movie for free. I think it's going to be cool. Yeah. I think it's going to be cool because it's going to be screenings. It's like one screening. So it's going to be a ton of murderinos there with you. Right? Oh, I guess. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes, exactly. That'll be fun. A ton or like four or four really exciting. What we're saying is keep your eyes free. Don't just start yelling weird shit. Also, we don't really know how this works. We've never

done it before. But okay. So what we asked for is for you guys to have like the theme was then to go together was what, you know, what was your someone or a story or you hiding a secret life? Yes. So or living a secret life. And Steven said we got over 600 emails just in the week that we solicited. That's amazing. Was it 600 or more than that, Steven? It was a little, it was like about 600 essentially. It's crazy. And just from the, he called those for four ones that he, you know, as he told me earlier, after a while, it wasn't good enough just that your dad had a secret family in a second city because he started getting bored. Yeah. He was like, common. Yes, it's happened. This is the story, which of course it's not common or boring for

the people it happens to. But you know, there, there then, there was variations on the theme that were very interesting. You had to up the stakes. And I think we got so many and there's so many good ones that I think we're just going to start, you know, adding these to the regular minisodes and throwing them in here and there because they're really good. Who doesn't like a secret life? Yeah. Like it's a fascinating reveal. Totally. Sorry, just as quick sidebar. Did you see the guy that tweeted the picture? This is what I found in my wall and it's a cat hanging in the, in the paint of a ceiling, like a little hammock. It's like there's a little poo dead. No, no. It's in fact, it's looking down and its eyes are rolled up. So it looks like a

demon. It's the funniest picture. It's on our Twitter feed. You have to go look at it. It's so good. Oh my god, Steven's getting it to me. Oh my god. He was like, I found this in my wall. Wow. Like the paint is peeling and this demon cat is just like, and of course like cat would be able to get up in that and just be like, that cat is so like, fuck you. That's my new bed. That's where I live now. Fuck you. All right. You want me to kick this off? Sure. Uh oh. Here we go. Yeah, I'm out of, I'm out of ice coffee. Let's see. Uh, subject line on this is just crazy secret life. People got it. They got it. Easy. Georgia, Karen, Steven and animals on the most recent mini. So you asked for outrageous

stories about secret lives and I decided to share mine. Um, about 10 years ago, my dad came home and started telling us about an elderly couple he met while working as a police officer. He said that he was going to help them on their farm and do odd jobs and earn some extra money. We thought nothing of this story and didn't question it. About a year or so into my dad helping the couple, he came to us again and said that they'd won the lottery and that they were going to give him some of their winnings. Again, this didn't seem off to us. The couple gave him $5,000 and we went on a nice family vacation to Universal Studios in Orlando. Oh my God. A really fun place to go on vacation. Um, around this time, my dad started acting very different.

He started drinking more and withdrawing more from the family. After we got back from this vacation, he said he won a hunting trip to Canada. Still didn't seem weird to us. He's an avid hunter and he showed us a letter from a respected outdoors company detailing the trip. Oh my God. He goes to Canada for a week or so. About a week after he came home, we started getting weird calls on our home phone. A woman kept calling saying she was from this company and asking how he liked his trip. This happened incessantly. Oh my God. Finally, after the 10th or 11th call. Oh my God. Asking the same question, we figured out something was very wrong. My toes are crunched right now. We find out that the woman calling was his girlfriend. Uh-huh. All along the

elderly couple was code for his mistress. Oh my God. His mistress actually won the lottery. What? And paid for our trip and random shit around our house. That was real? How was that the most insane part, the real part? It's not the best. Dude. But so she wins the lottery. She's paying for shit, random shit around the house. Um, and he, the dad said he brought, uh, this email says, he brought home from the quote, elderly couple. This secret ended the 20 year marriage, 20 plus year marriage to my mom. Stay sexy and question everything, Jordan. Oh my God. The lottery part like makes that story. It's, it's, cause I was like, what are they? Did they rob a bank? Like, how's the money going? I didn't know like. Yeah. And you're, or you're thinking, does he kill that

old couple? Like, is this the, is this one of those things where you're like, and then my dad was an evil person or whatever. And it's like, but they're trying to figure out a way to basically launder lottery money into the family. Oh my God. And I love that this fucking girlfriend's like, he's like, maybe he's ignoring her. She's like, Hey, how was that trip, motherfucker? Yeah. This is just a, this is a customer service call to make sure you were pleased on your trip. It's a great way to like drive him crazy. Yes. Like, that's a great way to infiltrate and just be like, well, it's also clearly maybe an indicator that she was a touch crazy because if you call anyone more than five times and I don't care if it's your best friend or your mother, you're crazy.

Like 10, 10 times phone call, walk away. Yeah. You got to walk away. Like ever or in a day. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm counting them up. You're on number eight for me. Holy shit. Okay. But how about when you don't answer? It's only when you don't answer though. That's why I don't answer the phone. I don't want to cut anyone out of my life. When I call you, I just picture you rolling your eyes. Well, you know the problem is most of the time I have my earbuds in and I'm singing along terribly to like some song that I startle you out and then you just automatically resent the person even if they're calling to tell you they love you more than anything and that you won the lottery. Yes. Okay. All right. This is called secret life. My fellow intern Tony slash Kayla,

the sex torsionist. Okay. Sex tort. How do you say it? Sex tourist. Sex tort anist. Sex torsionist. Like an extortionist. Yes. With sex. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Cut that out. Keep it in. Turn it up louder. Turn that part up really loud. Put some bass in it. Yeah. Hi Karen, Georgia, Steven and Petz. I never thought I'd have a good story to share until you requested secret life stories. This doozy just came flying out of my memory bank. It's kind of dark so I'll avoid going into too much detail. When I was at 19, I interned for my first political campaign in the small Wisconsin town where I went to college. I was assigned to work for a really cute guy who shared an office with another staff member as well as his intern Anthony. We called

him Tony. Tony and I spent a lot of time together by default doing intern projects, making phone calls and knocking doors for our candidate. On election day, we got up at 5 a.m. to drive around neighborhoods hanging vote reminders on people's doorknobs. Tony was a bright low-key, normal high school kid. We were both the kind of teenagers who gave up all their free time to work for a cause we believed in. Or so I thought. A couple months after the election, local and national news lit up with details about Tony's online persona, Kayla. Around November 2007, Tony began setting up fake Facebook accounts, most notably a pretty flirty teenage girl named Kayla, to learn male classmates at his high school. Kayla coerced the boys into sending her sexually explicit content

of themselves and threatened to release the photos and videos to the whole school if they didn't follow through with what she'd asked. Whoa! Predictably, her demands began to escalate. Kayla made some of the victims meet up with Tony in person who claimed he was also being blackmailed. I started working with Tony about eight months into his online scheme and he continued doing it the entire time we worked at the campaign. Tony's reign of fucked up tear came to an end soon after the election in the most teenager way possible. He did something really stupid at school that bit him in the ass. A week after election night, the last time I saw him, he emailed an anonymous bomb threat to his school quote as a prank when using the internet in the school library.

Police traced him, traced it back to him, which probably took two seconds because this kid had never heard of an IP address and he was expelled. After that, the victims came forward and police seized his computer to find all the content he collected of his victims in very obviously named file folders. Oh no! In that one-year period, Tony had 31 victims. Some were as young as 15 and at least seven had been sexually assaulted by him. Whoa! So the part I didn't read was that he would have them meet up with him and be like, I'm also a victim and Kayla said we have to do this or she's gonna like expose us. So that was how he like got them to hook up with him. Isn't that fucking insane? Yes. Okay. When he was arrested in 2009, his case became the first big national story about

sexual extortion online and launched the term sex distortion into the national conversation. Whoa! I received a letter from his attorney sometime after he was arrested asking if I would serve as a character witness. When I worked with him, he seemed like such a regular, unremarkable dude I probably would have forgotten about over the years. I almost wish I could go back in time and see if there was something off about him that I missed, but he was probably just a sociopath who could live two different lives like no big deal. Yeah. Anyway, there's no way in hell I was going to defend his ass in court. I don't want to end the story in a bummer note. So here's a fun fact about the same campaign. Remember, I mentioned interning for a really cute guy. We crossed paths

a few years after I graduated from college and next month we'll be celebrating our three-year wedding anniversary. Oh! There's a lot of scumbags in politics, so when you meet a good guy, you got to lock him down. Take notes, political murderinos. Thanks for reading my story. I am working on a campaign right now and I look forward to your podcast each week so I can take a mental break and recharge my batteries. Can't wait to see you in Portland in October. Stay sexy and don't campaign with internet creeps, Liz. Oh my god. High school. High school. Also, that story makes me think of that movie, Tickle. Did you watch the documentary, Tickle? Totally. It's similar, but on a larger scale thing of extorting people and manipulating them. That's like the whole thing about putting

things on video or on picture and sending them on the internet. You're at the mercy of a person you have to know who they are. A lot of these do have like black the ones I read that I'm not really have like black male shit in them. Yes. And like that I mean it makes me so glad that we didn't have fucking internet in high school because I would have done something very stupid. Of course. I mean we had internet but we didn't. It wasn't like that. That's insane. It makes me think of my cousin Kim and what she tells my nieces like before they go do anything social because now they're well Sophie's in college but Anna's still in high school and she just says don't do anything you don't want everyone to know about because that's what it's going to end up being. So

don't want to follow you for the rest of your fucking life. You just have to, you have to be the first line of defense instead of trusting other people. I'm just now learning that lesson so I haven't even learned it. I can't imagine a fucking high school person. Well I mean Jesus. Okay. Looking for a better cooking routine? With meal planning, shopping and prepping handled Hello Fresh has you covered. Hello Fresh makes home cooking easy and affordable so you can stay on track and on budget in the new year. Hello Fresh meals are convenient, seasonal and delicious. Stay cozy all winter long with classic comfort foods available weekly. Why stop with just dinner? Now you can enjoy Hello Fresh's expanded menu of quick lunch solutions, weekend brunch,

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you absolutely true and absolutely shocking stories about the most famous families and biggest celebrities the world has ever seen. Our newest series is all about the incomparable diva Whitney Houston. Whitney's voice defined a generation and even after her death her talent remains unmatched but her incredible success hit a deeply private pain. In our series Whitney Houston destiny of a diva will tell you how she hid her true self to make everyone around her happy and how the pressure to be all things to all people led her down a dark path. Follow even the rich wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. Let's see this is Secret Life Roommate Edition. Yes. Dear Karen, Georgia, Stephen and Pod of Pets. I have an absolutely

insane Secret Life story about a previous roommate of mine. We'll call this roommate Kristen. Kristen and I met through a college program and became fast friends in 2014. After a semester we became roommates with another girl we were friends with and things were great. I would have considered her my best friend so much so that I would have asked her to be a bridesmaid in my wedding. Anyways after a year of living together we graduated and decided to move to a new city together. We both got jobs in our profession at different locations. We both made separate friend groups but this is where things started getting weird. I met her friends for the first time in August and they were super nice and friendly with me but then the next time I was around them in

September they all gave me the cold shoulder. I couldn't really shake that feeling that I done something wrong but thought maybe I just wasn't as close with them as she was. Fast forward a few months mine and Kristen friendship had totally diminished. She made plans to take me out for my birthday but the morning of canceled due to period cramps. I understood but was disappointed. I felt like I had done something wrong unknowingly and was being punished for it. I had tried to bring it up a few times but she just brushed it off and pretended everything was fine. Eventually I just accepted that our friendship was falling apart. In March of 2017 she ended up in the ER for some mental health issues. I met up with her and her friends at the hospital

and they proceeded to ask me why I'm there and quote do you think your presence here is going to help her mental health? I'm shocked. I asked them stunned what they mean and their response is don't you think your breakup is a little too much for her to deal with right now? That's right ladies she had told these girls that we were dating back in August unbeknownst to me. Furthermore in an effort to end her lie she told them we broke up hence the cold shoulder for a month and it all began to make sense that she wouldn't hang out with me in public. I wasn't invited to her birthday party in my house. What? And she unfollowed me on social media while they were still living together. All that stuff was done in an effort to cover her lies. Not only that but her new friend group

showed me all of our quote breakup texts. After she was released from the hospital we had a talk and she had no remorse or explanation for her lies. Needless to say we're no longer roommates or friends. Thank you for all you do. Me and my not pathological liar friends love your show and can't wait to see you in Atlanta. Stay sexy and don't get scammed by your roommate Harriet. I have so many questions for her. I want to know how her friends reacted when she was like none of that is true. Well I think the key part there though is if she ended up in the hospital for mental health issues maybe everybody went oh this is a little shakier than like we thought. Yeah. Like everything got on like questionable ground.

Sure. But yeah. Oh my Jesus. That must have been so bewildering where everyone's immediately yelling at her. Like everyone's mad at you like yeah mean to you for no reason. I feel like I'd be going crazy. Right. Like what happened. What went wrong. All right. So this one is called I can't reach you the name of the thing but Karen Georgia Steven and various animals. I just finished listening to Minnesota 83 where you ask for secret life reveals and my friends have been begging me to send this story in. So here we go. Back in the 70s my parents were in a bowling league. Over the years you get to know other people in the league and you all become friends acquaintances whatever. One of their friends always invited my dad to come over for taco parties but he never went.

I don't know why but all the I just like taco parties taco parties now. Fast forward a bit and one night my dad and his friend Sam are at the alley when their friend walks in acting very animated. He shakes my dad dad's hand and puts an arm around Sam and says to them something along the lines of hey guys I don't think I can stay very long because the FBI is following me. They pretty much blew him off thinking he was crazy. The next day comes and both of my parents were at the local grocery store they worked at. They were 18 and 19 years old and who walks in that morning but Sam holding a newspaper. My mom said that he looked like he saw a ghost. What's the front page story that day. Their bowling league friend from a night before had been

arrested for multiple murders. Oh and who was that guy from the bowling league none other than the killer clown himself fucking John Wayne Gacy. All caps fucking John Wayne Gacy. Oh shit. Sam went on to be his defense attorney. Oh whoa. And Sam and my dad are still friends to this day. He wrote a book about it a few years ago and signed a copy for my dad. I remember hearing the story from a young age but I never really thought much of it until I was a teenager and realized who John Wayne Gacy was. Doesn't everyone's parents bowl with notorious serial killers. No just mine. Anyways that's all I got for now. Stay sexy and don't join bowling leagues with killer clowns Alyssa. P.S. my dad would like to note that it was the Plains PD following Gacy and not the FBI.

Oh crazy clown. Wow. That just makes me think of in the I think it was the made for TV movie or could have been the real movie. Brian Dennehy is playing John Wayne Gacy and when it gets to that part where he's just like he's like drunk during the day and driving around and just like trying to avoid the police. Oh my god. Like it just made me pick in my mind in the movie in my mind it was Brian Dennehy walking into that bowling alley. Hey guys the FBI is following me. He made a stop off at the bowling alley. What if they went to his taco party and like been in the house. And and then he's like who likes magic tricks down to the basement everybody. Oh Jesus John. So insane. Okay I like this one. The subject line is secret life. Great. Well done everybody.

Good day Karen, Georgia, Steven and Fur Babies. I just have to say it. My name is Tiana and I am an education assistant at a small private school in Canada. A group of my friends at work got me addicted to your podcast and you guys have made my morning commute much more entertaining. When I was listening to last week's mini soad and you asked for secret life stories I thought I may have one that is interesting. When I was nine years old I was adopted. Growing up my parents did not hide the fact that I was. They were always very open and honest. At 12 years old my mom and I were sitting in the basement and I started asking some questions about two pictures in my baby book. I have something attached to my head and I'm being held by a nurse. I asked why I had that and

my mom replied that they were running tests and then I asked what kind and she responded to see if you had drugs in your system. Why the heck would I have drugs in my system and my mom said because you were not born in a hospital. So many thoughts are running through my mind and then my mom proceeds to tell me my story. Oh my fucking god. On November 25th 1987 in Calgary, Alberta two young boys were skipping school and took a route through a parking lot. The boys 14 and 15 stopped to look at a cool car when one of the boys heard a soft cry of a baby. He looked down to find what he thought at first was a doll but was in fact a real baby inside of a garbage bag head sticking out. One of the boys picked me up and ran over and both ran towards an older gentleman

who helped me get inside to a warm place. The police said that if it had been an hour later it would have been a much sadder situation and yes that little baby they found is me. I was placed into foster care and my now mom and dad became my foster parents at nine days old. They legally adopted me on my mom's birthday May 2nd the following year. My face was all over the newspapers and on TV and it was a huge story in Calgary. My dad at the time was a journalist and he was actually covering my story. The social services people thought what a better place to hide this baby from the media than with someone in the media. No one at my dad's job knew that while covering this crazy story he had the little baby at home. I love it. I was also dubbed

Mary Olympia Doe because Olympia because the Calgary Olympics were happening in just a few months. Now if you're wondering why my parents waited to tell me the story it was because a doctor told them that it would mess me up if they told me when I was younger. Anyways stay sexy and don't abandon babies. Tiana. Oh my god I'm going to cry. That's the best. That's the best. That's there's nothing. There's none. I don't even know if I should read my last one. Do it. No do it. I love that. Great job Tiana. That was beautiful. We're so happy for you. I wonder if she has ever met those boys that found her. I just got chills. Tiana find those boys and say hello. Yeah. Let them carry you across the parking lot again. Yeah.

Take pictures of it and show it to us. Okay. Secret life light hearted. Oh secret life life hearted. I get it. Was there a hyphen in there somewhere? There's a hyphen so I thought that yeah okay here we go. Hi MFM crew. Hi. Hi. My dad has always been my favorite person. We always we've always been extremely close even though he's a naturally very distant person. Think Atticus Finch from To Kill a Mockingbird's demeanor even he even looks like a young Gregory Peck and is a defense attorney. Wow. As intensely private as Karen's dogs are he dislikes being noticed or congratulated to the point that he didn't even go to an award ceremony for him being congratulated. Wait for him being an attorney of the year because he didn't want

people to think he wanted a pat on the back. Wait are these people Irish? Did she say at the beginning? No they're just like turning down attention can't relate haha. Anyways I found I found out some stories I had never heard on my last trip home as it turns out he secretly anonymously pays for the transport food bills and medical care of a janitor at his office who had to quit due to a chronic illness and couldn't afford a car or meds. The janitor has absolutely no idea who is behind it and due to my father's very distant nature would never suspect. He has even left anonymous envelopes of $500 to $1000 in mailboxes of people he knew who said they couldn't afford Christmas presents for their children and wave fees for clients to be able to

buy gifts for their kids during the holidays as well. I could go on and on but it just goes to show that not every secret life is a bad one. Some people are secretly making the world a much better place. He's helping us all stay sexy and not get broken down by the constant stream of shitty news. Anyway thanks Karen Georgia Steven all for all you do best Jay. Oh my god I love that one. Isn't that amazing. And also so true like there are lots of people doing lots of very good things and they don't want the credit it's not about the credit so we'll never hear about it. Like I remember somebody telling me and I think it's come out at this point when David Letterman was still on the air he used to just anonymously donate thousands and thousands of dollars for

scholarship money for Ball State which is the college he went to. Oh my god. And like I just anytime I hear about that at all it's just so amazing because yeah it's you know there's good there's good things happening out there. So the first thing I do whenever I donate is put a fucking post up on Instagram to tell everyone I donate. Of course. Like come on. That's why everyone does but you know that's the thing about it is and you know there's everyone's well people will email us talking about like I feel bad or I had a breakup or I feel terrible what should I do and that's the that's the thing I got taught early is if you feel bad help somebody else because it will make you feel so much better and you don't realize it because I think most of us

weren't really it's not a natural thing to do because it doesn't connect it's like but what about me why do I have to put myself aside and it's like that's actually the good part. Get out of your own fucking world and and go yeah yeah extend yourself to someone who actually really needs help right now. That's a great that's a really great advice. That's a nice one. Well this has been so cool. What a what a fun exciting kind of you know experiment experiment and fancy commercial we get to do. We love that we love the opportunity that we get to kind of like host a movie like this for for you guys and and you know hopefully we have to do it again. Yeah very exciting. Yeah thanks for listening you guys and send your letters to my favorite murder at Gmail. We're

still taking these secret life emails. We love the secret lives. So much fun and don't forget if you're in the fan cult you can you can get two passes to the movie searching brought to you by Sony at all this all the informational will be posted Steven will post it on the fan cult and you can find out everything and stay sexy and don't get murdered goodbye Elvis you know your line you want to cookie. There you go.