My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - My Favorite Murder Presents: Lady to Lady - "A Lil' Spooky All the Time" ft. Karen Kilgariff

Episode Date: February 3, 2021

My Favorite Murder presents the first episode of Lady to Lady on Exactly Right Network! What better way to kick it off than with our very own Karen Kilgariff? Join the ladies as they chat abo...ut Taco Bell pizza, the anti-Grandpa Joe movement, accidentally sending mortifying emails to people, and more! They also answer a lady problem from a listener who was busted while internet stalking someone online. Listen and subscribe to Lady to Lady on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Guys, today we're very excited to be sharing the Network Premier episode of Lady to Lady, the newest podcast that we're adding to our Exactly Right family. Lady to Lady is hosted by three stand-up comics and real-life best friends, Babs Gray, Tess Parker and Brandy Posey. And each week they invite a special guest to play sleepover games, answer advice, and delve into ridiculous tangents. Upcoming guests include Beth Stelling, Annaly Ashford, and Sona Movesessian. The Exactly Right Premier episode features Karen Kilgara.
Starting point is 00:00:31 New episodes are every Wednesday. Plus they have 300 back episodes with tons of amazing artists. Enjoy the Exactly Right Network Premier episode here and then head over to Lady to Lady for a brand new episode out today. Subscribe to Lady to Lady on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. If you like what you hear, write the ladies a review. And follow them on Instagram at Lady to Lady Comedy on Twitter at Lady, the number two Lady Comedy, and on Facebook at Lady, the word two, Lady Comedy.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Goodbye! I'm Babs Gray and it's a good day when you find out it isn't your backstreet boy that's into QAnon. I'm Brandy Posey and I can assure you these skeleton gloves are strictly professional. I'm Tess Parker and if food is bad for you, it should taste good. And this is Lady to Lady. Can you keep a secret? Neither can we.
Starting point is 00:01:25 We got the Barbara Brandy and of course, Tess, we got a show for everyone that's the fucking best. Come on, baby. It's time to hang out with your favorite ladies, ladies to ladies, ladies to ladies. Oh my gosh, you guys, we're here! We did it! Oh my god, we made it through the road trip. We got all the snacks.
Starting point is 00:02:00 We have arrived. We are on exactly right. Absolutely. So excited. The last episode of the podcast, we did it. We're at the very end. We're all done. We're doing one episode on exactly right and that's it.
Starting point is 00:02:16 We're so excited to be on the network and we're so excited to have our first guest, the co-host of the My Favorite Murder podcast, Karen Kilgarov. Hi, everybody. Oh my god, you guys shipped in children for me? Thank you. Absolutely. Yeah, we have a tiny drawer of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It's a subscription service. The cutest little children cheering for me. Yeah. We checked their, we did the COVID test up their noses before recording too, every single time. Good. That wasn't cheering. It's crying.
Starting point is 00:02:49 You just like got your nose and then that means you tested the, you know, the whole, their nasal cavity. Yeah. If you took, if you took their nose away because you get COVID, you know what I mean? I think so. Yeah. Because all the, what do they call those things? The droplets?
Starting point is 00:03:04 All the droplets would go further without the nasal cavity. All right. We don't need the droplet talk. We're droplet talk. Trying to figure it out. That's fair. That's valid. I'm not a scientist.
Starting point is 00:03:15 We're getting to the bottom of it. Thanks for sitting through our theme. We decided to bring back on zoom. We're playing the theme songs in person again, and it's really fun because we're really just holding the guest hostage while they listen to bad songs that we've made. It's kind of, it's my favorite part of podcasting is when the guest doesn't know when to come in and makes weird noises or says one word or fucks up the intro. I do it every time where I'm just like, wait, you just said a thing.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I need to say the thing. I don't care if anyone said my name before. Totally. Well, and the songs in zoom really add another special level because it's also us like all kind of dancing but not looking at the screen because it would be weird to make eye contact with you. That would be awkward if we stared each other dead in the eyes. That'd be too silence of the lamps where it's just like, mm, mm, mm, dancing right
Starting point is 00:03:59 into the camera. And I say that as a person who's been to both a silent disco and one of those like 7 a.m. dance parties that we went to, so. I actually can't believe I've only been to half of that with you. Where have you been to both? I've been to both because the silent disco was at a Taco Bell influencer house. What? What did it smell like there?
Starting point is 00:04:20 Pretty bad. You know. You know what it's like. It smelled like, yeah, a combination of beef, cheese, and lettuce in any room. And some kind of like a geo for men, like some kind of bad cologne. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a Mountain Dew blast cologne for men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Oh my gosh. A Baja blast. It's the only thing that takes me to Taco Bell. I love it. It's my favorite soda. It was like, they rented this house in Silver Lake to like roll out the grillers. Remember the grillers are now off the menu. I just love the idea.
Starting point is 00:04:55 You know, that was like a two year project. There was a project manager about the grillers roll out. There were so many serious meetings, I'm sure, about this party. They had a meeting at Taco Bell where they were like, how can we compete with 7-Eleven? They've got those rollers. We need to go up against the rollers. We need a food that's circular and that can get stuck on some kind of round grill all day long. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:20 But can have its like coagulated grease kind of showcase by the lighter above said rollers. Yes. I mean, that is the thing about 7-Eleven is I guess you don't get that as much because when you're going to fast food place, it's all hidden back there. But 7-Eleven, they're like, no, we're displaying it. We want you to see every inch of this shiny hot dog. Look at what you're picking. Look at it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Frankly, frankly, I respect their transparency. Yeah. Yeah. I like to know that pizza has been there for hours. Thank you so much. I will still buy it anyway because I have depression. Thank you. I remember when I went to buy a pizza there once and the guy didn't even tell me not to.
Starting point is 00:05:59 He just did this little shake of the head like he was. Almost like he knows the camera's on him and he can't say the words out loud. It was like someone had a gun to his back. He was just like, don't do it. So did you do it? I did. Of course. You still did it.
Starting point is 00:06:19 She can't be told. Barbara Gray cannot be told. Absolutely not. I can eat anything. I am a garbage disposal. I was like, you think this is going to take me down? Absolutely not. But what if he was trying to tell you he's the one?
Starting point is 00:06:31 He's like, I keep rubbing that on the front of my pants. He's trying to tell you. Again, not a deal breaker. Only a clean uniform? I really think he was trying to be kind to me and be like, as a person who's been here for the past 16 hours, I don't think you should do this. And I was just like, this is ageism. I will eat this pizza.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I don't care how old it is. Honestly, frankly, I'm impressed that your 7-Eleven worker cared that much. Our 7-Eleven, Tess and I lived near each other. It changed over to new owners about a year ago, and now it's just run by- There goes the neighborhood. Apathetic teenagers are running our stuff. We used to have a great staff. We used to have a really solid team over there.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And now the teens are on their phone. They don't care. I love it when a big chain says under new management, because you're like, what? What happened over here? The 7-Eleven. I don't come here for the customer service. It's never been a part of it. You make me serve myself in almost every capacity.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Don't worry about the management. Yeah, you'll see those big banners outside one. It's like, what was happening before? Oh, God, I don't want to know. You're still not going to let me use the bathroom, right? So who cares? Exactly. Are you going to change the way you hand me back my change for my five Gatorades,
Starting point is 00:07:58 three string cheeses in a candy bar? Whatever. I will say, I've talked about this before, but I love 7-Eleven. It's honestly one of my favorite stores, period. It makes me feel so safe. Wherever you are in this great nation, if you can find a Seve, you're going to be all right. It's like a first aid kit for America. True.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. It's like if Starbucks did a lot of Molly is what 7-Eleven is. It's kind of what it feels like. I mean, I feel like 7-Eleven's been around before Starbucks, right? Oh, yeah. I think so. Because we had a 7-Eleven near my grammar school and we weren't, it was a school rule. You were not allowed to go to 7-Eleven.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So I was just like breaking this rule in five, four, three, and going in there was, it was like because it was forbidden, it was like every sense was heightened and every item, you had every item memorized. What I love is since, you know, say I was in junior high, they have really developed the jerky aisle and the jerky gummy aisle where that used to almost not exist. Like maybe you got some at the end of the aisle as like the specialty, you know, slim gyms hanging down in a row. But now it's almost like they're trying to say, oh, for all of you vegans or all of
Starting point is 00:09:15 you people that like care about your carbs come around the corner from like all the different kinds of Snickers and you can get, you know, I don't know, peanuts. Imagine. You're like, do you like to chew but you're tired of gum? Well, have we got you? Well, come to aisle three. I have to say, my boyfriend, I was talking to him about gummy candies and I was like, you know, peach gummies and he didn't know what they were and it was like a weird moment.
Starting point is 00:09:42 What? Yeah. Where's he from? Yeah, where's he from? He's from upstate New York. Rochester. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:50 They for sure have peaches in Rochester. They have some just to do. Those things where you're like, did we grow up in like an alternate universe? How do you not know what peach gummies are? Do you prefer the O's or like the solid ones that are like little rocks you could skip across a pond? Solid. Solid ones taste a little better.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I like, you know, I grew up on O's. Oh, this is some West Coast East Coast shit. Okay. This is, you know what it is? There's a tactile. I do love both because peach is kind of my favorite gummy candy flavor. The Haribo kind, which are the solid ones are just like the first time I had that I was just like Mary speak to the chef, but those rings, it really, it's like you're eating
Starting point is 00:10:31 a truly like you're eating plastic, which is part of what I'm in it for in the whole gummy area because when I was sorry, but when I was in sixth grade, I got a Hello Kitty pen and pencil set with these erasers that smelled like fruit, but it was like they smelled so good that I would just hold them under my nose like all day, like the weirdest girl in class. And my fantasy, and then sometimes I would bite on them if nobody was around. And my fantasy was why doesn't Hello Kitty come out with erasers you can eat. And then truly like that year, gummy, gummy candy was shipped to America's like in 82
Starting point is 00:11:08 where I was like, Oh my God, my dreams. I'm manifesting. Um, so I feel like gummy rings are really going into that area of like, you're probably not supposed to eat this, but you can. They feel very plastic, just the flat part, you could at least kind of operate under the assumption that it's a dried fruit, you know, a circular O that resembles a binder sticker. Your brains, your brain has no, no illusions about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It has the mouth feel of a key chain. It's like Florida 86, but you're eating it. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. While we're on the topic of this in Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory, is that the name of the movie?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Charlie, whatever. There's a few varieties. Anyway, we know what you're talking about. The original movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which, what did you guys want to eat the most?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Like what was your? Oh, the wallpaper. The wallpaper. But you only like the wallpapers. You just wanted to like taste the wallpaper. Yeah. And that's kind of what you were talking about, Karen, of like I always like scratch and sniff stuff was like that for me.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Like I always wanted to eat my scratch and sniff markers and stuff like that. So to me, the wallpaper was like the closest, the closest thing to that. Yeah. That makes sense. I think I always, when he has that buttercup when they're in the chocolate room, he drinks out of it, he drinks it and then he bites it. And then he bites it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 That was totally it for me, Barb, too, where the first time I saw him do that and the look on his face, I was just like, could you imagine if you could eat tea cups like in the weirdest like as if that was what I'd been dreaming of all my life or just like, you don't even drink tea. What do you, why are you this excited? Sometimes something just needs to click for you and you're like, I didn't even know I wanted that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And now it's all I want. And now I buy things I don't want or need all the time. Yeah. Hooray. Pure imagination. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the chocolate lazy river was like a constant thought in my head at all times.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I was like, ooh, if I could just tube through that and just drink it whatever I wanted. I guess you could just be in a tube and then have like straws on either side. If you guys want to go in a river that looks like that, just go up to central California. Very fair. Yeah. Stockton, Sacramento, they have a lot of rivers that look like that. I remember watching that though and being like, when Augustus Gloop goes into that river and he's like splashing around and gets sucked in the tube, I'm like, that's not chocolate.
Starting point is 00:13:29 That's water. Yeah. It's very watery. It's so watery that I was just like, that's not even a good chocolate river where it's like, I think just to abate my jealousy a little bit, I was just like, it's not what you're dreaming it is. So don't be that jealous of Augustus Gloop dying in chocolate right now. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I like the fact that this kid ends up getting suctioned up into a tube and you still had to quell your jealousy. I was just like, no. Okay. There's another weird fantasy slash fetish I didn't know I had, calm down, calm down. I think that movie unlocked a lot for a lot of people. Oh yeah. Can I just say, well, let's talk about every scene, but there was something that really
Starting point is 00:14:14 happened to me when I saw the four grandparents in one bed and I don't know. I don't know what if it was discussed. I don't know. Like attraction, repulsion, I'm not sure, but it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. It was also like, please tell me what happened. Did it happen to all of them at once? Like, was it a terrible car accident? Are they fucking lazy as hell?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Like how are grandparents just laying in bed all day facing each other? Then it's like, they're also married to each other, but then in the same bed with another couple. Like everything about that was titillating, horrifying, like what this is a fantasy world that's gone wrong. You don't think about that often, but they were their in-laws. They were jealous. It was very kinky.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It was. Very kinky. Yes. Absolutely. It wasn't that big of a bed. I was just like, do they sleep? Is this just like a, they don't have a couch every, I had a thousand questions. I think it was just that that's all they could afford, but then there is a whole, there's
Starting point is 00:15:13 a really like anti-Grandpa Joe movement online because there is, there's a very... And down a notch, yeah. People have tried to cancel Grandpa Joe because when... It's literally a fucking rolled doll character. God damn you fucking assholes. But no, because when he, like when Charlie shows up with the chocolates, all of a sudden Joe can fucking walk for the first time in like 30 years. Everyone's like, this guy could have worked.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Fuck them. They're making him and his mom work all the time. And in the meanwhile, he could obviously get out of that bed anytime he wanted. So it's a whole thing. And also he's the one who like fucks it up for them in the factory when he goes into the, you know, the burp thing. Yeah. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Grandpa Joe is human. A, B, do you know anything about inspiration where if you have, if you're depressed and you have no inspiration, then suddenly an eight year old comes in and he's like, I want to fucking contest. You're like, oh my God, I'm digging it out of somewhere. Like he's a human being, everybody. Exactly. That'll be like, Oh, I'm going to back in the before time and I'd be like, I'm going
Starting point is 00:16:19 to stay in tonight and just watch reality TV. And then I find out about an event that has like open bar or free food. Yes. Suddenly guess who can get dressed. Guess who can dig it out. Yeah. I think my biggest, my biggest grandpa Joe moment personally, I can, I can recall was I was about to show my boyfriend Friday night lights like for the first episode.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And then I got a text saying Tommy was, oh, was at a party. That was from me. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, Tommy was, I was at a party and I had that moment where I was like, I have to, I have to grandpa Joe right now. Like I can't sit. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:16:51 It's grandpa Joe. Yeah. But I've been, I just to be totally honest, like the reason this is making me laugh so hard is cause for the past like eight years, I've been grandma Josephine so hard where I'm just like, nothing's getting me off of this couch slash bed slash weird sex thing with these other old people staying, staying in. Good luck everybody. I hope you love it because I know we've all regressed into Josephine.
Starting point is 00:17:22 That's where we all are. And I will say, I mean, I feel like there were entire years in my twenties where my friends and I were smoking so much pot that we grandpa and grandma Joe by default on a couch. Yes. Like it was just the sectional that we just didn't leave and we would just dominoes would bring us what we needed. Right. I mean that, that part of it is the fantasy part for me where it's just like, it would
Starting point is 00:17:42 be just fun to lay in bed with your friends all day and just kind of let the world come to you if it chooses to. And then if not, you're just kind of in this little shitty house, you know, chatting about the old days or whatever, like, I don't know, it didn't seem that bad. Can we get postmates on the line to do a commercial for them about this? Like, Hey, what if grandpa Joe, what if they didn't get the ticket and they just ordered food until they know that that is a video? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:09 That's a commercial we're about to see for sure. They like somehow CGI them into something they're like, who really won that day? It's actually grandpa George and grandma Georgina. I mean, just just to play devil's advocate, grandpa Joe, he got up, he had to get dressed. That was like a long day at the factory. He had to deal with all those other asshole kids. The other three, they got to nap, eat soup, hang out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And you know, they shared the money when they came home, but yeah, they had to. They still moved into the factory. They didn't have to do anything. That's right. That that threple, they still earned it, which is super unfair, but you know, life's not fair, Karen. I would say this to the grandpa Joe, cancelers is that although he did touch the side, the side of the, the fizzy burping machine or whatever it's called and thought things up.
Starting point is 00:19:03 He did stand up to Willy Wonka and like, this is wrong of you. I mean, that is such a great speech in that movie and such a great performance and such a great moment of like to break a little boy's heart. You know what I mean? Like he really did. He grandpa Joe himself throughout that tour and throughout that whole day. It was pretty. Is Willy Wonka really?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Is it grandpa Joe's story? Have we just been looking at it from the wrong perspective? I think it's, it's obviously Veruca salt story and it always has been. I'm going to be very candid. I'm going to be very candid. That is absolutely the character I relate to the most test. That's the most obvious statement I've ever heard in my life. You've always been a Veruca salt.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Oh, like, yeah, I have no patience. I, yeah, I mean, and you know, for the most part, it's worked out like pretty well. I don't like live in an era where I need to have a lot of patience. No, quite the opposite. All right. We have to take a break. Should we, should we tell Karen what the special thing that we did to Joe for joining? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Oh, yes. Before we go to break, we did, we found out that we could officially become ladies on the internet. Somehow. So. What country? Scotland. Scotland.
Starting point is 00:20:22 So we get, guess what website we found this on Karen? Scotland.com. Goop. Goop. It was a goop thing. It was on Goop. Yeah. We bought, we bought ourselves Goop lady titles.
Starting point is 00:20:33 We own, we each own three meters of land in Scotland and we were officially ladies. Holy shit. You guys are marketing geniuses. We wanted to come correct to exactly right. Hell yeah. You better come correct. So yeah, someday we will go there and do a show on those nine meters of land. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 We each stand on our own respective meter to like stand on a chair and then someone gets on your shoulders and like. Exactly. I clearly have no idea how big a meter is. We're going to find out, we will find out how big our pieces of land actually are. Okay. Yeah. We'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:21:13 It's amazing. Congratulations to all three of you ladies. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Karen. Thank you so much. All right. We'll take a break. Hey, hey, everybody, welcome back to Lady Deladia.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I'm Brandy. I'm Babs. I'm Tess. And we're here with Karen Kilgarib. Hey. Oh. Hey. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Karen, this is very exciting because we've been doing the podcast for a very long time and we do like a fun little game with our guests in the second segment and we decided to unveil a brand new game for you. Shit. On this episode. Great. It's serious. New game, new theme song.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Everybody, let's roll. World premiere. Business. Business. Please be advised. Questions. Business questions. Are we moving the needle?
Starting point is 00:22:22 We've got some business. Pull up a chair. Would you like some water? Business questions. Yeah. I don't know about that one. Don't doubt business questions, please. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:30 That was beautiful. I think it's a bop. Also, I love like, Karen, you're like a legitimately really talented musician and we're like, you know, just a little something we put together. But you know, I have a song called business situation. So I'm right there with this whole theme. I'm, I'm about it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I think we sense that we were like, Karen, I'll be a good one to break the business. What if we had just completely ripped it off and you're like, what the fuck? You're doing like acapella four part harmony. I'm like, this time it's familiar. Okay. So yeah, we have some business related, you know, slash interview questions just to get to know our guests a little bit better. So how about you just, you know, how about you just tell us a little bit about yourself
Starting point is 00:23:14 to start off. Great. Thanks so much for asking. Yeah. First of all, I'm really, I'm really happy to be here. I'm glad we could all make this time work. Let's see. Definitely went to grammar school and junior high school.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I graduated and then I went to high school, graduated, which really delightful experience. Went to Sacramento State University, flunked out after a year and a half. Thank you. I was really proud of that. Great. Parents felt good about it. I wasted tons of their money. I attempted to go to junior college after that many times.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I was really proud of that. I attempted to go to junior college after that many times and failed all of those times. And yeah, so then I basically kind of knew it was a perfect fit to not go to school anymore for me. And so what better way to celebrate my total inertia and laziness, but to start standup comedy. I did that and through a series of amazing events and happenstances, I got myself into the position of being a professional podcaster.
Starting point is 00:24:25 So there's some stories in between, but we only have three more hours in this interview. So I think that- You can save them for the second round. Okay, great. Very impressive. Perfect. If she gets through. If she gets through.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Tell me your biggest weakness. I guess my biggest weakness is how strong I am. Strength. Wow, they've ever heard that answer before. That's amazing. Wow. I know what kind of strength, because I think I can squat a decent amount of pounds. What kind of strength?
Starting point is 00:25:01 I hate that word because it describes it perfectly. Squat. It's so dead on. And it's onomatopoeia. My strength comes in sheer volume of my voice, which is- I'm starting to learn over the years, not in my control. So I think that's great if I'm ever lost in a parking structure, I can solve that really quickly.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And then just- Did you see this fucking mosquito? Oh no. Yes. Oh no. I didn't get it. Other than that, I think, yeah, just kind of my dedication to never changing my mind or listening to others, I think, is really the shape of my strength, I would say.
Starting point is 00:25:52 It is like, you know, as a fellow loud person, big voice person, it is a weird moment where I think that thing about yourself as I get older where I'm like, oh, these are just things about myself that I know might be annoying to other people and I just have to be okay with because this is who I am. Because you can't help it if you were just born a bit much. So thank you. Thank you. That's your follow-up Lady Gaga song.
Starting point is 00:26:20 We're not saying that about you. We're saying about ourselves. Born a bit much. I was born a bit much. Five, six, seven, eight. And a one, and a two, and a three. You know what's funny is I remember being somewhere and everybody, it was a job or some kind of thing where everybody else was very soft-spoken and I don't know why I was fucking there,
Starting point is 00:26:38 but I was trying to, and I remember it dawned on me and I was probably like in my mid to late 30s that there were people who weren't raised with people in their house yelling from four rooms away. Like there was never not somebody, my dad was constantly like, turn off the bathroom light. Like there was always that vault. Like I think I've told this story a ton of times, but my dad used to answer the phone and when it would be for me, I'd be like, hello, and my friend would be like, oh, sorry, are you in trouble?
Starting point is 00:27:08 And I'd be like, no, what are you talking about? It's just that my dad's like, hello, hold on a second. He's always yelling, always. So it took me a long time to realize that my loud girl status, although there were times where I was like, I wish I was shy or whatever. And then it just kind of like, sorry, it's like the way I was raised. It feels necessary to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I have an interesting combination of both because my house was like a quiet house growing up, but my best friend across the street was a loud house. Like everyone yelled in her home. So whenever I'd go to her home, it was like a yelling home. And then I'd come back to mine and it was like quiet. All the lights are off and it's dark. Like, and nobody's here. That's why you can adapt to any situation, Brandy.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I'm a chameleon. Oh, I am. That's why everybody, anybody gets in fights. If I yell, it was very normal in my family because my, there's a lot of bullshit going on. Yeah. So like, I'm like, oh, this is just something we come back from, but that's not how everyone acts, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:09 So I didn't, I don't know that. And I'm like, for me, this is just normal. But yeah, I also, on top of that, like I'm half deaf. So there's that. And then also like my siblings and I are essentially a pack of hyenas. Like we all have the same laugh and the same exact sense of humor. When we laugh, it just becomes this chorus of jackals. And we all just escalate each other.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And I take that out to the real world with me. That's just how I love it. And you don't adjust it. I mean, that is one of my first, when I think back to the time where you guys asked me to do the lady to lady live show, which is when I very first started doing standup again. And I was like, well, this is exciting. Like a live podcast. I had no idea what was going on or who you guys were or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And like, I first of all, when I first met you, I was just like, mm-hmm. Cool girls. Okay, good. Thank God. Like whatever. But then one of the first funny things that happened on stage and tests started laughing. And I was just like, holy shit. It was my favorite because you don't, the fact that you don't try to change it at all is
Starting point is 00:29:12 my favorite thing. I was like, no, this is what you're getting. The end. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care if it's the senior citizen talent show. Like I'm tap dancing and I'm bringing jazz hands in there. We'll be more courier.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Hell yeah. Thank you. What was that show? Was that San Francisco or was that something else? No, it was. Was that not sketch fest? Maybe it wasn't. I thought the first one I did was at that like Wolfpack Theater, whatever that one was.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Oh, that's what it was. It was. And then you did that one. The other one later. Yeah. I came on and did characters and there was all kinds of shit going on where I was just like, guys, I'm back. Guys, comedy, comedy friends, comedy feelings.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah. That was a good, that was a good time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was. Now I'm sad. Karen. Can we?
Starting point is 00:30:03 Well, it's over now. Let's get back to the interview. Good. I agree. No, it's great. It's really great getting to know you like this. But what kind of work environment do you like best? I guess a cave.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Ooh, that sounds nice. Do you like a little cavernous face? I do like, you know what's funny if I'm actually really working and when I think of that, it's usually writing or something laptop based where I'm just kind of like focused in. My favorite thing is I know that I'm kind of like in the flow. Please forgive me for using that term, but like I'm in it. When the everything, like all the lights go down, the sun goes down, everything gets dark and I'm just like in the computer.
Starting point is 00:30:51 That's my favorite feeling of like actual kind of creative, like the creative thing is happening and I'm in that trance and I don't really know how much time has passed. So yeah, I think if it's small and warm and there's like some carpet and it's not too, like I cannot stand fluorescent lights. They make me ill. So yeah, I think like warmth, earth tones are nice. Small kind of smallness is nice. And I do like quiet for being a loud person, you know, there's there's so many contradictions
Starting point is 00:31:26 in me, which I think is one of the more fascinating things about me. I'm still doing the character. Still try to do the character. No, we're coming in and out at first. Do you write with silence or do you write with like white noise or classical music or something? Sometimes I do classical music, but then if you get like, I'll try to do some kind of like a, you know, sleepy time playlist type of thing, because if you get into the wrong classical music, it's like suddenly you're like, Oh, I better turn this in.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I'm like, you realize you're panicking because you're just acting along to the soundtrack in your head. Try to do like the other day I had something to do and I found a spa playlist on on Apple music and it was hilarious because there was no, it was like that, you know, those kind of weird, it sounds like just general keyboard noises where it's like whatever, where there's nothing to focus on or distract you, but it's kind of definitely filling, filling the space. So things like that. But yeah, that or just nothing. I have to have that too. I can't like I can have like some shitty TV going on in the background, but I cannot like when you're writing, you can have TV on.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Not writing. No, if I'm doing work, graphics work and stuff like that. Not writing is for sure. I can't have any other words like around me. Yes, correct. Yeah, same. Yeah, yeah. I think in a perfect world, I'd have a theremin player that just played. But that's just all for all your Halloween scripts.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah, exactly. I'm just a little spooky all the time. This is Gustav, my theremin player. Yeah, that's good. If you're just playing Halloween haunted house noises. My favorite random screaming stuff. Yeah. Can I recommend to you guys?
Starting point is 00:33:07 I have this app called Ohmwriter. This is like a legit recommendation. It's like four or five bucks, but it plays like pretty music and it takes up your full screen with your word processor so you can't see anything else. And the sexiest part about it is when you type, it makes like an exaggerating typey sound. It's so nice. It does sound.
Starting point is 00:33:27 The music with it, it sounds like something. Yeah. You'd like hearing because it does have that kind of like, it's kind of that like flowy like womb noise or whatever. Yes. Almost like if it's filling up, like the feeling of having your ears filled up. So then you're not, it just like, it's the opposite of a TV on where you'd be distracted and start concentrating on something else. It's like you can't concentrate on anything else.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I love that feeling. Exactly. Yeah. It's like putting like one of those dog cones around your brain. Yeah. Ohmwriter. Okay. I like it.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I started getting into, I mean, getting into, I went to like one sound bath or whatever before all this shit happened. I love a sound bath. You're so good for that. And I'm, I'm going to Joshua Tree in a few weeks and I was like, man, I would love to do that, but COVID is too crazy. So I'm like at that point where it's like, all right, you going to invest in a crystal bowl or like, what's about to happen? Wait, Barble, you explained to me what a sound bath is just cause I'm not totally positive. So it sounds like something you, like it's not, it's in a lot of the spot plays and stuff, but it's like a crystal bowl that they kind of, I don't know what they're using to make the sound, but they do move something around it, various ones. And they all have different tones and they do, they kind of fill up the room.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But if you're in person, it like makes your body vibrate. It's really crazy. It kind of sounds like if a wind chime was really high. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that really like, whoa, whoa, whoa, sound kind of. Okay. I think I know you. And it's like, this is really like hippie-dippy, but like you can do, you can like YouTube sound baths and those are cool too.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But like when you do them in person, you can feel the vibration of the sound in your body. Ooh. Yeah. It's cool. The last time I did it, I really felt like I was like floating afterwards. It was pretty crazy. That's very cool. I went to one in Vegas like two years ago because I was performing at punk rock bowling.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And like, I was there for four days and it was just like a festival, all day festival thing. And like the third day I woke up and I was like, I need to be in a quiet place that isn't in the sun. And then I found like a weird way, way, way, way, way, way off strip like hippie shop that was doing sound baths that day. And then I just like took a nap underneath of a brass pyramid. Oh my God. That's a perfect Vegas like fix up. Everybody say, what's your favorite public nap you've ever taken? This is an interview question, Karen.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Okay. I did fall asleep in a bowling alley once and that felt good. That's very loud. It's like you being an infant where like loud noises actually make you fall asleep. They kind of do. I can definitely like, I can go, I can go hard if I need to. Why did you fall asleep in a bowling alley? I don't remember, I just remember the sensation of being like, this is weird and falling asleep.
Starting point is 00:36:11 This is weird. I'm leaving and they just put your head down. I have zero other context than I know it was at a bowling alley. I'm trying to think because I also, I'm the same way where I can, I can sleep whenever I want. And if I'm tired, I just go to sleep and I kind of don't have a ton of control over it. Like, uh-oh. So I've definitely slept in, like I've slept through so many like movies at the new art kind of thing where I'm just like, well, I wish I was smart. I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. That kind of done that a lot. God. I mean, beach nap is for sure. I think my favorite. Beach nap is my favorite. That is nice. That is nice.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Except for, I'm very much fear sunburn and that is like within 20 minutes. I will be like, have to be rushed to the hospital for melanoma. Yeah. You just got to get a pop-up thing. You got to go a little shade. True. Okay. That's solved.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Now you're going to get the job instead of me because that was such a good idea. I think that the one that I enjoy the most is when you fall asleep during a massage. Oh, yeah. That's the greatest like you get past the point where like, oh, I'm so sore or whatever my, the reason was that I booked this massage and then you get to the point where you kind of like, it's the person putting their hand on your back and going like, okay, that's it. You can get dressed.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And you're like, what? That hasn't been like, that's my favorite because, you know, then you're, then I actually relaxed. Exactly. Yeah. I've scheduled some relaxation and actually done it. Yeah. I had a float tank once and I don't know if I fell asleep or not, but I also don't know
Starting point is 00:38:00 if I was awake. Hmm. Well, you've, you officially lost time. I think you got abducted. Yeah. That's the goal. Where that's the goal. Did you have your wallet at the end?
Starting point is 00:38:09 There was nothing in it. You spent it all on the float tank. Yeah. I don't know if this is my favorite public nap, but it's my most memorable. When I was in high school, I used to take classes at the junior college, like after school and in the summer and stuff, and I was so tired setting for finals that I fell asleep on, you know, whatever piece of grass, the quad or whatever. And I woke up because that junior college was in doing a production of the Crucible.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Several cast members were dressed as pilgrims in the quad to like promote the show. So I like woke up in the middle of the sunlight in public to a bunch of pilgrims swarming around me. Did you think you time traveled for like half a second? We're like, oh shit. Yeah, it was so disorienting because I already was like sleeping in broad sunlight and then to have pilgrims in the mix. It was a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:10 One year, uh, we went to Disneyland for like senior all night Disneyland bullshit that I don't, I already don't like most of what I just was talking about. And it was like, you get there at 11 and you, and you leave at six in the morning or some insane shit like that. We did that too. Yeah. Grad night, I guess, or whatever they call it. And at around like 1 30 AM, I was just like, well, I'm going to sleep on this bench because
Starting point is 00:39:38 I'm not like, we've walked all around. I've already been here several times. Like this isn't new or fresh. All these like packs of seniors are walking around like, I don't know if people were expected to like socialize. I don't know what the fucking point was, but I was just like, this sucks. And I laid down and went to sleep. And I remember there was a couple of people who walked by and be like, oh, that's really
Starting point is 00:39:59 fun where I'd be like, compared to what I'm not going to pretend like I like big mice. Like, what are you talking about? This is stupid. As someone who went to that same, I went to that same grad night at Disneyland, uh, and here's what you did wrong. Here's what you didn't do. Drugs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Because I did ecstasy that night and it was truly one of the happiest nights of my life. Like there's nothing like being on hard drugs on the Peter Pan right. Nothing. Oh shit. That would be amazing. Yeah. Dammit. I just took it at face value, like a goddamn idiot, but that's the good thing about that
Starting point is 00:40:36 is I am in an interview right now and I don't do drugs. Oh, that's a great point. Tell us about it. You know what you didn't do, um, wait, we were talking about the float tank. Did we ever talk about that update we got from the girl who runs one or not? Oh, no, we didn't. What was the update? We should, we should.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Where is that? Let me find it real quick. Let me find it real quick. Uh. Is it bad news? About float? We had been wondering about if a guy jizzes in the float tank if they can tell. We had a little inquiry.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Not in the white ones. But there's someone who runs, who runs them somewhere and she had let us know. Um, I mean, they must drain them, right? They have to clean them. They have to. No, they do. But she said it's very obvious basically when it happens and that, uh, yeah, it's a different, it's like a oil and water, uh, yeah, not to put too fine of a point on it.
Starting point is 00:41:33 She basically said, yeah, it's very easy to tell. Oh yeah. Here it is. Um, okay. So I love y'all, but couldn't help, uh, mention I own a float tank in Louisville, Kentucky, weightless KY in case you live in Louisville. Fun float tank, jizz, uh, float, fun float tank fact. Jizz is not water soluble, so it's easy to spot dudes who decide to ignore our liability
Starting point is 00:41:55 waiver and $500 cleaning fee are immediately shamed, tarred and feathered on the way out the door. Nice. Um, uh, come to Louisville and we'll give you the VIP treatment. Okay. So we solved that problem. And now we, we know, yeah, you don't have to worry about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So I say, I'd say we can put a pin in that for later. Yeah. We'll, we'll hit up that float tank when we're allowed to. Yeah. Um, okay. Okay. Last question. You know, we always like to end with this.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Um, just, yeah, what, what questions do you have for us? Oh yeah. Um, first of all, what's your pension plan look like? Oh, oh, we give out free pens and that's it. Yeah. So this is a pun based company. Okay. Well, that's a huge bummer for me.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah. I mean, it's the gig economy. Um, yeah. Okay. Pension plan. Here's our pension plan. It was bad. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Perfect. Um, what's his fuck? Uh, oh my God. What's his fucking name? He's a singer. He has that song, uh, 24 carat, what the fuck Kanye West, Bruno Mars, thank you. He has a really bad pun in one of his songs where he says like, why don't you come to the penthouse?
Starting point is 00:43:26 I'm gonna keep my pens, so I'm just saying wasn't as bad as that. You stole the joke from, you stole from Bruno Mars and it took me too long to figure out who he was. So it really. All right. We're going to figure out Barbara's punishment. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, we're back and Lady to Lady and Babs.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I'm Brandy. I'm Tess. And we're here with Karen. Hey. Hey. Okay. We're going to do a lady problem. Let's do the theme song and then we're actually going to do one, oh, we've got like three different
Starting point is 00:44:13 themes to play now. I'm realizing. Wow. Theme train. Let's do it. Lady problems. Yeah. That's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:44:33 We pretty much say the words over and over again. So we started doing voicemail, you know, we're doing some from voicemails now. And this is our very first one from voicemail. I'm going to let me, oh, it won't let me do it because it's too long. Hold on. Let me paste it in the chat too. Cause it's kind of a long one to like listen to. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Um, yeah. And if you want to email us lady problems, you can email anything to us, lady to lady comedy at gmail.com. If you want to give us a call just so you guys know, here's the number. Three, two, three, six, but 30, six, but 30 somewhere is three, two, three, six, but 30. Give us a call. It's the first time I've heard it.
Starting point is 00:45:34 The six, but 30, B, U, T, T, B, U, T, T, T, so six, B, U, T, T, three, zero. It's our phone number. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. Pretty happy about that. Yeah. Everybody, if you're listening, pop it in your phone.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Hey, just send us a voicemail whenever you're out and something crazy happens. Yeah, it doesn't have to be a lady problem, it could also just be like a check-in, whatever you want. We're going to be using the third segment to kind of, you know, play those and all that stuff. So yeah, here we go. Hi ladies. Lauren Vino, friend of the pod here, calling with, I don't know if it's a problem or nightmare
Starting point is 00:46:14 or what, but I got caught creeping on someone's LinkedIn. I got rejected by a dude I'd never met, um, just passively swiping in quarantine, but it took it harder than I should have and was just looking for clues on his Instagram of like why I shouldn't put him on a pedestal, which was what I was doing when he rejected me. And I quickly found a very prominently featured ex-girlfriend who was tagged, who had a public profile on Instagram and you could see very easily without doing a deep dive that they liked pretty much everything each other posted recently, which is a lot for exes who are
Starting point is 00:46:54 even friends, in my opinion, and it helped me spin this narrative of like, he's not available, um, this wasn't a thing, you're fine, kind of thing, but all of her pictures are of her Lamborghini girl and all of her pictures of her tags were like her face was like weirdly obscured, like a child of a celebrity, it was very strange. So I get in the crowd and it's like, what does she look like? Um, and I go see his Facebook profile because I don't have her full name and, um, she's tagged in a profile picture, not far back again, not a deep dive, I go to her profile, more labradoodle, but I have her name, I Google it, I go to images, I click on her
Starting point is 00:47:44 headshot, it's where it links in, I see what she looks like, it's fine, she's attractive, they don't look alike, she's got my evil twin, I can move on with my life. And I don't feel good about this, but as I'm getting caught, I feel like I'm slim. And then I get caught, he texts me the next day before coffee, um, with a screenshot of her texting him, um, me looking at her profile and he's like, is this something I need to worry about? She's been stalked before, and I apologize and own up to it, but like, how did she know without creeping on me too, um, and noticing that I've followed him for a week and liked
Starting point is 00:48:29 a few things? I'm pretty sure she's just as guilty as me, right? And also like, how do you guys come back from something like this, because this whole thing just really wrapped my sense of self and was just like a huge stretch though, like, is this me? Is this just a lesson I'm not creeping? How would you guys take all of this? Because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Thank you. Love you guys. Oh my God. The roller coaster of emotions that this took me on. My upper back is so clenched right now for the stress of what she went through and put herself through because you just never think you're going to get caught doing something like that. Like we've all taken.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I've gone down so many rubber, rubber knit holes. That's what it is. It's a rubber knit hole. It is a rubber knit hole at the end of the day. Yeah. And it's, you know, that's what you do. It's, it's easy. It's accessible.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It's there. I texted a screenshot that you looked at someone's LinkedIn account. That's the part that I get like a visceral pit in my stomach is when she got the text with the screenshot. But can somebody clarify? This was a guy. She was about to go meet for coffee with someone. She was kind of starting to see a tiny bit and this was his ex.
Starting point is 00:49:46 So she was just going like, Oh, is this something I have to worry about and having a private, you know, stalker area. But just in a, in a kind of like, or was it always already over with this guy? It was already over. She had been like, seeing this guy for a couple of weeks, nothing major broke it off. And then, and in my opinion, she was well within the normal stalking time period. Yes. For sure.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Especially after a breakup or after a kind of this isn't working out. Right. Yeah. Like she said, she still liked him. She had put him on a pistol and it's kind of, she was like looking through his stuff. And I think that's normal to see this. And then, and then especially if she saw, Oh, they've interacted a bunch. Like I shouldn't, you know, who is this person?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that weird. Yeah. Here's my question. So I don't understand how, so LinkedIn will show you who looks at your profile. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Oh, that's, that is a good fact. Yes. Everyone to know. Yeah. And I think I, I feel so bad that Lauren went through this, but I think it's important that this information is out there for everyone. But you have to have LinkedIn pro to see it, right? Or you, can you see anybody who looks at your profile?
Starting point is 00:50:52 I think you can see any, I think you get sent a notification when someone looks at your profile on plain old LinkedIn, because I remember doing it after I did a show one time and one of the producers of the show, I just was like, Oh, I wonder what else that guy's worked on. And then, and did it, and then like a day later, someone was like, Oh yeah, they get notifications and I was just like, Oh, and it was like, I've never even gone near LinkedIn again, because it is the, it's that first of all, social media was invented so we can all stalk each other that we know that. So even acting like, is it me?
Starting point is 00:51:27 Am I weird? No, no. It's the only reason people are on social media, married, 80 years old, doesn't matter. Everyone's stalking everybody. That's what you're there for. It's just not fair. Cause LinkedIn, it's like, it's like going, it's like as though you're being told someone's looking at your IMDB page, it's, it's a fucking, it's a professional service.
Starting point is 00:51:47 What's the purpose of that? Just to be like, Oh, they looked at me so I should follow up with them. Yeah. That's what's creepy about it is it's like, what are you going to, it's like a creepy guy finding a, like seeing a girl on Tinder and then finding her Instagram. You don't want them messaging you there. You don't want to be like, Hey, I saw you looking at me. Can I have a job?
Starting point is 00:52:03 That's right. Oh God. Imagine. It's, it's, it was clearly set up by someone who maybe is on the spectrum, a tad or doesn't get the interacting in a way where it's like, no, no one would want that to happen. So you should, that should not be a feature. That should be a bug and you should fix it and get rid of it, but, and also you should absolutely warn people that this is going to happen because it would keep people from
Starting point is 00:52:27 just casually going, Oh, where's that, that one guy that was in my French class in high school? I wonder what he's doing for a living these days. Totally. Which like, it's a pandemic where we've looked at all the French guys in high school. Yeah. Well, and also like at that point, the internet puts you in kind of a fugue state so you don't even realize until after you're already on high school French guys page that how you
Starting point is 00:52:48 got there. Yes. It's like how sometimes you don't remember driving home from places like you're in it. It's true. That's really true. Well, and also sometimes if you have like an inquisitive mind too, sometimes I'll see how far down the hole I can get, not to do anything, but just to like, it's exciting just to be a little tiny PI and just be like, Oh, look how resourceful and like out of the
Starting point is 00:53:08 box I'm thinking right now and finding all this stuff like, I don't know, it's just kind of a fun game. Yeah. It's just satisfying whatever curiosity comes up as you are sitting around also watching a Netflix series also doing this, also doing that. But I think the, the extreme shame piece, which I'm totally relating to is that idea that someone said, no, thanks, not interested. And then she got caught continuing to be interested, which no one wants to be revealed
Starting point is 00:53:38 as having been. But guess what? It's what it's the truth. Like if you're the breakup E, then oftentimes you're left with this leftover. Oh, but I was kind of still interested in this. I, I think we should circle around though to talk about who in the fuck sees somebody checking their LinkedIn and then is sending a picture to her X to be like, thank you. Can you get this girl away from me where it's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:54:06 You guys need to go off together to a sandals resort and you hit me in your lab or doodle and you just go fucking, yeah, have a giant family of labradoodles and Barbados or some shit. We don't need you here. And we certainly don't need you on LinkedIn. And yeah, absolutely. Because I feel like that, that woman really violated like girl code. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:24 Absolutely. She obviously surmised that was going on. It was over between her and this, between Lauren and this guy. So like, why even send the, even if you saw that no need to send that screenshot. Also, if I were Lauren, I would text back. It's not a problem on my end, but it looks like you're about to get back together with a total fucking psycho. Enjoy your life.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Enjoy. I think this is what she should do. She should just be like, actually, I was interested in hiring her for this position. So you're using it for professional purposes. I have some pins that she could have made a nice retirement with. Yeah, exactly. Do you see this ballpoint? I think she would be interested.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Thank you. She no longer is qualified for this pen. I remember. So I'm looking at it. So you have to pay, you do have to pay to see who's seen you and you all, you have to pay to, to not let, to lurk other people privately and to let anyone see that, and to see who's been looking at you. No.
Starting point is 00:55:24 So it's obviously just them trying to get paid for shit. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like any of this. So are you telling me that LinkedIn is blackmailing us just for having feelings and interests in others? It's no good. I've been, I don't know why, but this newest phase of quarantine has made me very oddly
Starting point is 00:55:49 obsessed, like hour to hour with my horoscope in a way where I feel like I need to keep on checking it. Like, well, what about nighttime of this day? It's very strange. But one of the things that I've picked up on that other people say that I absolutely love is that rejection is your protection. Have you heard people say that? No, but I like that.
Starting point is 00:56:11 It's like this idea that like, don't get too caught up in this, you know, it's very easy to go in microscopically and be like, what did you say? What did he do? Where's the text? These, these mistakes or whatever. Overall, my, uh, my words to Lauren would just be pull back a little bit and know that this guy, like you can judge him based on his exes, she seems crazy. He's probably way crazier than you even know.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And this whole event, yes, you got your hand burned on this stove, but you never wanted to be anywhere near this stove in the first place. It's a, it's a really bad stove. Yeah. Really bad stove. Get out of the kitchen, Lauren. Get out of the kitchen. No, not where your place is.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yeah. You're definitely her stirring some shit for sure. Like it's, it's one thing if she pops up like five or six times, but like a one time look is normal for anybody. Yeah. And also again, that means that she was also looking at Lauren's shit. So, yeah. Entirely.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Their game. She is, yeah. Who, who is hunting and who is the, who's the hunted. Yeah. And Lauren's not hiding behind any fucking labradoodles. All right. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Her, her, her face is on full display. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Exactly. And the detail of saying that a whole of her pictures were weirdly obscured, like the child of a celebrity is a perfect detail that we all got and just kudos, Lauren. You're going to do great.
Starting point is 00:57:34 That was beautiful. Because it was beautiful. I really love the idea that you guys are doing voicemails because it's one thing to read an email, but when someone gets to talk about their shame or their whatever in their own voice, I just love it and it, it makes me empathize so much more. We've all been there, humiliating yourself, faving something that's eight years old on Twitter, doing that deep dive shit, everything. Just welcome to the brotherhood of man because this is, everyone's done it and everyone has
Starting point is 00:58:02 done it very badly. Well, I'll just, I'll get into my, I did it very recently. I'm just going to say. Oh yeah. You had an incident recently. I had an incident. I had an incident. I had to reply, I had to give some like criticism that made me feel a little weird to give because
Starting point is 00:58:20 it was one of those things where I felt like I sh, I'd been sent something. I needed to give feedback on, but it was so bad. What was sent to me? I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, why do I even have to comment on this? So anyway, I had to like figure out how to say it as nicely as I could, right? So I wrote the email like five times and was like, huh, and kept going back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I'll wait over the weekend. All right. I'll send it. And, and then I sent it and then, you know, of course you go back a few minutes later and you read it and I read it and I read it and I was like, okay, I think it did pretty good. And then I had, I had pasted some images and then below those images was my old, my old draft.
Starting point is 00:58:54 The last more harsh version of the email was underneath the email. Yep. I've done this. I've done this. You have? Yes. My God. The first and last time I wrote an email to someone that was like a fighting email where
Starting point is 00:59:15 it was like somebody did something and I was really mad and then they sent me an email of like, look, I'm sorry, but, but, but, and I hit reply and started responding and then I kept rewriting and rewriting and at one point and I saw I was the first, I had basically done a full vitriol pass and then I was lightning it up and lightning it up and I was halfway through. I was almost done, but the back half was not nice and I hit like return to go to the next paragraph and fucking sent it and then ring ring, here comes a phone call of like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:59:51 And I was just like, but the good, the good thing was we ended up getting to a place where you could actually talk and it was for stuff like that, you should just be talking on the phone anyway. But yeah, it was the kind of thing where I was like, don't ever, you draft that in word, you get out of email entirely like, I don't know how I didn't know that. That's worse than mine. So I feel, okay, that sounds worse than mine. You have to drop that in email.
Starting point is 01:00:16 You have to learn from yourself and your friends. Like I now whenever I'm really gossiping, I'll put my phone on airplane mode. I'm going to do a side, a side version of this and this is someone else's story. I won't say her name. I think she would be fine with us saying it. You know her and love her too. But one time there was a guy she went out with and it was some, it was like a Tinder date or whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:44 And then the date was over, like it had just ended and she took a picture of his profile picture and sent it to her friend and was just like, dude, this guy was just so fucking hot and blah, blah, blah. And she sent it to him. Yeah. She sent it right to fucking him and then was just staring at her phone like, oh, I really was excited about this guy and this is officially over right this second like never heard from him again.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Oh, yeah. Bullshit though. Yeah. You'd think it'd be like a nice compliment, but what a high compliment. Yeah. But you know what? I think maybe that's a like, uh, he's just not that into you a moment, right? Because that wouldn't he have, yeah, of course, but you don't want that news that fast.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You want to be a little short of 48 hours, be like, what if me and that guy or whatever? And then, you know, slowly get ghosted, that's what we're all doing after the, you had someone call you right after you did the email thing, but I had to make that. I was like, okay, do I write back and be like, hey, sorry, that was a, did I mess up or do I just leave? I just left it. Cause I was like, there's no coming back from this. You have to stand by it.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah. You can't double down. Yeah. Cause anything you do is only going to make it worse. It's like when you try to fix your own manicure, you're just going to fuck it up. Yeah. It's like, it becomes like that painting where like they're trying to redo it and just it becomes the horrible version of the face.
Starting point is 01:02:05 The melty Jesus. Yeah. Melty Jesus. Absolutely. Yeah. It just looks like a rollo eventually. Exactly. Smooth chocolate.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Yeah. Everybody makes mistakes. Everybody. Oh, I actually also want to let the listener know, I know this for a fact, SoundCloud certain SoundCloud accounts. If you listen to songs, we'll let the person that put them up know that you have been listening by your email address. If you were logged in at the same time.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So keep that in mind. That's okay. Right? Cause it's just like music. It depends how creepy you're being. I mean. I think. There's a song written about you and you're not together anymore and you know, it's three
Starting point is 01:02:42 in the morning. You don't want that email to go out. Or if it's true, if you're super into a song and then you listen to it 72 times in a row like that. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:02:55 So just keep it in mind for everybody in the future. These are great tips. We have a lot of good tips on this episode. Yes. Letting everybody know. God. There's so many ways to humiliate yourself these days. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Don't just in the float tank. Don't creep on LinkedIn. Yeah. Don't creep on. Yeah. The most creepy thing I've ever done is when I was like, when my play was in New York, I was like seeing a guy at the time, not like barely seeing him, but like, you know, into him.
Starting point is 01:03:19 And I went on my phone on Facebook to like promote my play to get people to come see it. And at the end, I had accidentally posted on his wall a promotion for my play for everyone to come see. Oh. I feel like I've done, I've almost done that many times where I've been especially searching on Facebook when you're like trying to like stalk someone and like post almost posted the name.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah. Well, when, when Facebook first came out, there was a day where I was going back and forth with this guy that I went to high school with who I adored is still a good friend of mine. And my other friend texted me and goes, and this friend is like a married man, you know, that like we hadn't seen each other in a long time, but it was like that Facebook like da-da-da and da-da-da and going back and forth. And on my wall, there was lots of other things and people talking on his wall.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It was all me. It literally was like 25 messages from me. And my friend texted me and goes, your, your Facebook messages are like red lipstick written in a mirror. And I was like, wait, what? And then I looked at it and was like, oh my God, I don't, I'm just old enough. Like, I don't understand a lot of social media. This was, you know, like 10 years ago or whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And I was just like, I got to get off. Like I can't be using this half knowing how it actually works and looks. No, no. Right. That's right. Humiliate. Like old people who leave review, like, like to leave weird messages on Sizzler Facebook page and stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:55 That's where you're like, all right, this is good, but that's the only version any of us want. Right. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I think I might just need to get all the way off the train because I'm in the same boat as you Karen.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Like, I don't care for it. I'm not good at it. I'm mostly just embarrassing myself and like, I'm not going to learn how to tick tock. I don't even know if that's how you say it and it's for the children. It's not like you have to, every new thing that comes out, you have to go, oh, I'm this much older. I'm an entire generation away. Like my niece sends me tick tock.
Starting point is 01:05:23 She does. And I don't know how to stop them when they're over. Like it'll just start again or it'll go into like the next tick tock that's waiting. And I'm like, God damn it. Like the next, it's like my niece dancing and being cute. And then immediately a tick tock starts where a girl is crying into her phone where I'm like, I don't want to fucking watch some teenage girl crying and talking. So infuriating.
Starting point is 01:05:46 And I'm like, oh, now I'm this person that just like, can you turn this VCR off? Yeah. I'm like my mom who's like, Teresa, I don't have Google maps on this computer. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's what the beautiful evolution of this show. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:01 The lady, before we got to exactly right, this was like our, you know, we're, our late twenties and we're just like getting fucked up and figuring it out. And now we're aunts who don't know how to do shit and we're just accepting it. Welcome guys. Welcome to the aunts club. I've been here for a while. Yeah. It's pretty fun.
Starting point is 01:06:19 We enjoy this place. We're proud aunts. And the embarrassment is fun too. I think that's another thing Lauren has to remember is it's painful now in three weeks. This will be the funniest story you have to tell. Oh yeah. It's already hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:33 It's real good. Guys, I can't tell you enough how, especially being one of the first podcasts that I ever really like interacted with when I came back to comedy, which was such a very difficult, vulnerable and let's just, I'll just say it horrifying time in my life. And you guys meeting you, watching you do what you do was really inspiring. It was really welcoming. I felt like I got let in the side door of like your, your comedy scene, which I didn't expect.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I was like, I'm going to do this by myself as the old lady. And so it's, it's, it means the world to me that now you guys get to be on my podcast network. It's like, it took a long time, fucking paperwork sucks, but ultimately I'm so, so happy you're here. Yeah. Shout out to all the LinkedIn profiles that got us to this point. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:07:28 We're really, we're really excited and yeah, this is going to be great. This is a good time. Oh yeah. Yay. So, um, yeah, Stitcher premium and Patreon peeps. We're going to go do the beef of the week, which is our new bonus segment that comes out on Fridays where we kind of talk about our complaint of the week. It's like 10, 15 minutes usually.
Starting point is 01:07:48 So if you want to check out what that is, we have all the information on our, I don't know where shit. Go, go find it somewhere. Yeah. You'll figure it out. You'll figure it out. You're good at the internet. Yeah.
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