My First Million - #199 - The Secret to Being Great
Episode Date: July 12, 2021In this special episode Sam (@TheSamParr) and Shaan (@ShaanVP) talk about recent content they've consumed. They break down Naval's tweetstorm on How to Get Rich Without Getting Lucky and discuss their... appreciation for greatness. There is a unique example at the end of the episode. --------- * Want to be featured in a future episode? Drop your question/comment/criticism/love here: https://www.mfmpod.com/p/hotline/ * Support the pod by spreading the word, become a referrer here: https://refer.fm/million * Have you joined our private Facebook group yet? Go to https://www.facebook.com/groups/ourfirstmillion and join thousands of other entrepreneurs and founders scheming up ideas. --------- Show notes: * (1:07) 1. How to Take Over the World (Podcast) * (9:17) 2. The Almanac of Naval Ravikant (book) * (17:59) Sam's friend and their big bet on Bitcoin * (20:32) On greatness * (27:19) 3. Nonviolent Communication (book) * (29:26) 4. The Courage to be Disliked (book) * (30:05) 5. Sam Altman’s Manifest Destiny (article) * (34:23) An example of greatness (NSFW)
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I had this thought, oh, this is what it would have been like to talk to Bill Gates at 21.
So this episode like I can rule the world.
I know I could be what I want to.
I put my all in it like my days off on a road.
Let's travel.
Never looking back.
So this episode is going to be, it might be shorter than normal, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
I just drove like 30 hours and I listened to a ton of content.
I want to tell you, Sean, about some of the stuff that I listen to and why it's interesting.
Is that what you want to do for this entire episode?
Yeah, let's do it.
And I'm sure you'll have some stuff that you've consumed.
Okay, the first one, I found this podcast that has like, actually, let's see, how many reviews?
I think like no reviews.
I think I emailed the guy, he's amazing.
But it's called How to Take Over the World.
We should just have this guy.
We should just absorb this guy's podcast.
We need to acquire this guy's podcast.
This should just be on our feed.
Wait, did you listen to it?
No, I'm just looking at the description of it and then the gems that you just told me
and I'm like, this should be part of MFM.
This is great.
It's amazing, this guy.
It's like his hobby and they're so in depth.
So it's called How to Take Over the World.
What I think he's doing is, you know, a lot of biographies of great people like Napoleon,
Julia Caesar, the Raw Child.
They're like 800 to 1,000 pages.
So it's like a real commitment to read it.
So he just reads it and he takes no.
notes. In one episode, he did one on Napoleon. He goes, I have 60 pages, or Thomas Edison,
he goes, I have 60 pages of notes. And he just reads the book and takes notes and then just
explains and tells stories from the book and does it in chronological order. And it's basically
turns, if you listen to a thousand page book on Audible, it's something like 40 or 50 hours.
But with him, I just listened to this two hour podcast and I feel like I've just read most of the
book. It's pretty amazing. But he also gives his analysis about it. And so I listen to a few of them.
I listen to one on Edison, one on Napoleon, and one on the Rothschilds.
And there's three commonalities that I want to tell you about these guys.
So do you know who Rothschild is?
Rothschild, am I saying it right?
Yeah.
So basically it was started by this guy named Antichol Rothschild in the 1700s.
He basically built like the Amazon of his little ghetto in Germany, where he would sell, like,
he would mail you an item, and if you wanted it, you would send him money.
And it wasn't like that big.
But eventually he started, he grew that over 50 years and started investing in stuff.
And then his kids started the Goldman Sachs of Europe.
So it was like a long, slow build up to building this family business.
So I'm going to tell you three things that I've noticed that these folks had in common.
The first, all of them enjoyed their work.
So there's a story where Nathan Rochelle, this one woman was talking to him.
And he was like, you know, you better hope that your kids aren't addicted to work like you are.
And he goes, oh, no, I hope they are because I love what I'm doing and I don't ever want to stop.
Same with Napoleon.
Someone said, Napoleon, what's your heritage?
What race are you?
He goes, I'm of the race of men who found empires.
Like, they're addicted to it.
Like, they love it.
They can't, they can't not do it.
Same with Edison.
Edison, he was like nice to his kids and nice to his wife, but he was really never around.
And they called, he called his studio, which was in Menlo Park.
I believe it's called Menlo Park in New Jersey.
And they said that it looked like a homeless encampment because there's these men in suits,
but they were just laying around on the floor and sleeping there because they would do their best work from midnight to 6 a.m.
And they would just sleep below under their desk.
And they're like, well, why are you doing this?
He's like, because there's so much to do and we love it.
Like we can't not do this.
So they all enjoyed their work.
The second thing, crazy, crazy high energy.
So super high energy.
So Napoleon, he went to Egypt to go conquer something.
And on his way, he stopped and like,
some island where you like reorganized the government in three weeks and he and he changed their
currency just they all have crazy high energy and that's something that i didn't actually think was a
big deal but they all had crazy high energy now here's the third thing that i found to be kind
of interesting a lot of the successful people that i'm learning about on this podcast they eat very
very very little so like edison would only drink milk sometimes for months steve jobs for months for
months.
What the fuck?
Steve,
dude,
do you remember Steve Jobs,
how he had a fruit?
Yeah,
I was going to say he's a fruititarian or whatever.
It was the same thing.
He used to only eat like lunch and it was just fruit,
you know,
or something like that for a period of time.
Rockefeller,
or Rockefeller and Bannerbilt were this way too.
Like in their first,
and like it was,
it's all,
when they're all described,
like, look,
he ate very little.
Typically didn't eat breakfast,
ate very little.
They're all like physically hungry.
And that physical hungry,
hunger,
it does actually seem like it leads.
to some type of like success.
Does that?
So, yeah.
So let me give you my take on all three of these.
So you said,
they really enjoy their work.
Like their work feels like play is the way I would describe it,
where they didn't feel like they were forcing themselves to do something.
They just couldn't wait to go keep doing it.
I would also say there's an obsession there.
Now, like, is like, I'm obsessed with stuff.
Like, is that, do I enjoy it?
I don't know if I enjoy it, but like I,
the OCD forces you.
There's an obsession.
So there's a Connor McGregor fight this Saturday.
And he has a great kind of like monologue from back.
when he was a nobody, but he was talking about it.
He goes, he goes, I've lost my mind to this game.
He goes, I think you must do that.
I think you must become obsessed.
You want to lose your mind to your craft.
And I've seen that as like a common thing for a lot of people.
And that actually relates to the eight very little.
A lot of time you get so engrossed in what you're doing that you just forget to eat.
You forget to go to the restroom.
You forget what time it is.
You forget you should sleep or you forget to pay that bill because you become completely
obsessed and engrossed in what you're doing. And you get in a flow state, really. And in a flow state,
you sort of block out a lot of the other stuff that's going on. And so I think that's,
those two sort of go hand in hand. And then the high energy, I'm curious what that means to you.
So that's like it doesn't mean like you're bouncing off the walls. Right. Yeah, that's what I
imagine. What did you mean? No, it doesn't mean that you're bouncing off the walls. But for example,
when I go and when I'm at a conference, like let's say it's my conference or let's say
at our talk that we did the other day.
How did you feel at the end of that?
The live shows?
Yeah.
I felt kind of drained.
I felt drained.
I felt exhausted.
Yeah.
But what I think high energy means is I felt just so worn out then.
But I think that some people, they would feel good.
And they'd be like, all right, let's go get some more deals done.
Let's go invest.
Like I invests a little bit of money.
But if I was a full-time investor, you're doing deals all day.
And for me, by like four or five o'clock, I'm like, oh, I can't talk to another person.
I'm exhausted.
I can't think about this anymore.
But I've seen some people that can do it all day and they just aren't worn out.
And they just keep going and going and going and going.
Right.
That's what I mean.
Yeah.
I'm with you on that.
Yeah.
I think this is cool.
And I like the study of the sort of study of greatness.
And what I've also found is that like, we've talked about this before.
It's like, would you want to be Elon Musk?
Would you want to be like basically this stuff.
comes at a pretty big sacrifice for other things in life. Family, often, you know, relationships.
It's hard to relate to people or spend time with friends or anything like that if you're doing this.
So when you, so I'm like you, I like digesting these. I like knowing it. But then over time I've
learned that like the goal is not to be Steve Jobs or act like Steve Jobs or anything. I just kind of
of am fascinated by it in the same way that like I'm fascinated about how, you know, a rhinoceros moves
and eats and I don't necessarily want to be a rhinoceros. I just find it interesting that it's an extreme
creature. I love freaks. I like the freak show. And these guys are freak shows. I also love bold people.
I admire anyone who's bold. So for example, I was reading a book about Steve McQueen. He was just an
actor. Like, he didn't change the world. He probably didn't work that hard, but he was, like, known for,
like, saying his opinion, and he, like, lived a very, like, free life. And it's, like, in the same field.
I like these people. I like men who will do what they say, and they say, like, things that are different
than other people. But then also I love these freak shows like Napoleon. Now, let's actually
talk about each of these. Thomas Edison, like Elon, a bunch of divorces. One of his wives
died from a morphine overdose. His kids didn't really like him or get to know him that well, even
though he was like a kind guy, but he was never around. Napoleon died on an island because they
kicked him out and he died basically with nothing alone in the island off the coast of Africa.
Rothschild, I mean, they were okay. They actually had good ideals. But with a lot of successful
people like this. Yeah, you don't actually want to be them necessarily.
Yeah. Okay. So what else you got? So you consume that. What else you consume?
Okay. Have you read Naval's Almanac? Yeah. Shout out to Jack Fletcher. No, no, no. Eric, right? Eric. I think
Jorganton is the last name. Yeah, he was the main guy and Jack animated it or whatever.
Oh, there it is. So Naval has, so it's a two-part. I actually don't know how it came to be. Did
Naval just do a bunch of podcasts and interviews and he summarized Naval's feelings?
Yeah, basically.
So Naval had been putting out his content for years, different podcasts and stuff like that.
And a lot of people like me and Eric and others were big fans of it.
And what he did was he said, all right, I don't know if you've ever bought the book or
have the book, Poor Charlie's Almanac.
I think that's what this is rift off of, which is Charlie Munger, who's Warren Buffett's business partner.
It was like about Charlie Munger.
And so he tried to make, you know, if Naval is one of the good, great thinkers of our time,
Then he tried to make the compilation of all the shit, Navaul said.
He took it for all the times Nivald talked about wealth.
And they pulled it all together and put it all in one place and distilled it down.
And this book is broken into two parts.
The first is wealth.
The second is happiness.
I found the wealth stuff to be a little bit boring.
I don't even remember.
I actually skipped over a lot of it.
I don't even remember what he said about wealth.
Do you?
Yeah.
I mean, I think it's the same thing that we've talked about on here.
But he has this tweet storm that went ultra, ultra viral, like maybe,
I don't know, 50 to 100 million people have seen it by now.
And it's called How to Get Rich Without Getting Lucky.
And he talks about these four things.
I can go into it or I can skip it if you want to talk about it.
Yeah, you can talk about it a little bit.
Yeah, basically his summary is like, you know, here's some of the principles that over, you know,
Naval's become very wealthy.
And over time, he sort of learned for himself.
He wanted to be wealthy as a kid because he grew up pretty poor.
And he wanted to be wealthy.
And he wanted to be wealthy not in a way that required outlier luck.
And he says this great thing, which is like, you know, I want to, if I lived life,
100 times, I want to end up wealthy, you know, 98, 99 times. Or like, if you took away all my
wealth now and you drop me, you know, butt naked in the streets of Bangalore, I want to be able
to, again, in five, 10 years, end up rich again. And so that means I actually understand the principles
of how this is done and I'm not relying on luck. And so he talks about those principles and he
basically says, you know, you want to have these like three or four things. So first, stop renting out
your time. You'll never get rich renting out your time.
which is, you know, 90-something percent of people are employees somewhere.
You are basically renting your time to an employer and you'll never become wealthy or you rarely
would become wealthy with that path.
You become wealthy by owning a piece of a business, either as an investor or as a business
owner or as an employee who has shares like employees at Google or Facebook who have
seen, you know, gotten a lot of wealth by the appreciation of those shares.
And so then he talks about, you know, how do you get to that point?
well, you need a few things. You want, you know, what he calls specific knowledge, which is basically
like, like Sam, you know how to grow a newsletter. You know how to write content. You know
copywriting, right? You know certain things. And so you need specific knowledge. Then you pair that
with accountability. So you want to do it in the name of the hustle or Sam or some brand that accrues
that reputation. So you want to put your name on the line and say, I'm going to do this thing. And so that when you do it,
you get paid for it. You know, the people at the hustle who write your daily newsletter,
but are less well known, they actually have certain skills. They have certain unique knowledge,
specific knowledge, but they don't have the account, they're not putting up the accountability.
They're not living and dying by the sword of this news that are working or not. Maybe inside
the company they are, but not externally. And then you have leverage. So, you know, back in the day,
if you wrote something, you would maybe distribute it locally on your newspaper or on a flyer
or something like that.
But with the internet, you have leverage
where you can put this in on email and you can send it.
You can put the same amount of work in to write the email once.
You can send it to 100,000 people, a million people,
or 10 million people.
It's the same amount of work because you have tremendous leverage through technology.
And so basically he talks about, like, use these three things.
Get specific knowledge.
Be accountable.
Put your name on the line.
That way you get the risk and the reward.
And lastly, apply leverage to maximize the value that you get out of the thing.
That's kind of the basic form.
And the whole book basically is broken down to this idea of life is about health, wealth, and happiness.
Or sorry, wealth, health, happiness.
And he says, we actually pursue it.
We go, we pursue wealth.
Then we do health.
Then we do happiness.
And he's like, that's actually a fine way to pursue it.
That's a very practical and fine way to pursue it.
The reality is that it's the reverse is true, like in terms of importance.
What matters the most, yeah.
Happiness, health, wealth.
but it's whatever, it's fine to pursue that way.
And he has this beautiful line in the book where he said something like,
of course, once you get the wealth, you're going to see that it's actually not nearly as important as you thought,
but you're not going to listen to me and you have to pretty much discover it on your own.
Yeah, you're not going to listen to me.
I wouldn't have listened to me, you know, the type of person who's attracted to this content,
they're going to go through the same thing.
You have to learn that the hard way.
And so that was pretty interesting.
So I liked that, but the second half is all about happiness.
And there was a few things that kind of stuck out to me.
The first is that he basically acknowledged, he was like, look, don't worry.
Well, let me preface this by saying, Nevault interests me because he's like, I mean, he's probably
a billionaire, I have to imagine.
He started Angelus, which is a multi-billion dollar company.
He's an investor.
Like, he's in the game.
And he acknowledges that I'm in the game.
And so, like, this is a little bit hypocritical.
but basically he was like, what I found is that, A, happiness must be a choice.
Like, I've been unhappy for decades.
And then I decided, you know, I'm going to be happy.
And he steals a lot of philosophy from stoicism and he steals a lot of it from Buddha, Buddhism.
And the idea here is that like your past is unimportant and the future is unimportant.
And to say that you want to do X, Y, and Z for legacy, that's bullshit.
Because what's going to happen is when you die, it's going to be as if you're, you know, it's the same.
feeling that you had before you were born, which is like nothing. So like, who cares about some
bullshit legacy? Which is like hard to fight against, right? But, and he's like, it only matters about
the, about the present and where you are now. And that gets a little bit fluffy. But I still thought
it was really useful. And oddly, did you, if you read the book, he talks about not working hard.
He was like, you actually should only do work that feels like play. And I thought that was kind of cool.
And he's like, life's too short, by the way, just to grind and work your ass off.
which again i'm like but neval you're like a billionaire like there is this like what you know how do you
i have to like kind of come to grasp it with us a little bit but i thought it was cool he also
talks about um very oddly gives diet advice he's like just don't eat sugar just stay away from sugar
do high intensity interval training and stretch a lot yeah and he even says he goes uh i try not
he's like you know i don't talk too much about health because i'm pretty good at health i'm okay
but I'm not self-actualized in that, meaning like in wealth, he's done better than 99.9% of people.
So, you know, for him to talk about it, well, he's self-actualized it.
He has actually done it for himself and seen it done by many other people.
And so he feels comfortable putting out his whole philosophy on it.
He's like, in terms of health, like, I'll say some general things that you, you know,
it's hard to argue against.
But I try not to talk too much about it, even though it's very important because I myself,
you know, for many years didn't have an exercise routine or wasn't, you know, the best
eater and now I'm better but I'm still not the best. I'm not world class at that. I'm not 99.9%
at that one. I'll I could tell one story. So I called the friend and this is almost like stuff I've
read or listened to in the last like four days, which is a lot. But I want I, I had a friend and this
is all related to what we're, this is related to what we're talking about crazy people. I love freaks.
And I had a friend call and tell me about their best friend. And let me tell you this story. So there's this
guy, I'm going to change some details because I don't want to reveal it. He was an accountant
and on some large deals that he was working on at the age of like 30. He was able to save up
one to two million dollars. I think it was two million dollars at the age of 30. He was single.
He lived relatively frugally, but he worked on some, he worked at a big company who was just an employee,
but he worked on such a deal that he was able to capture like some of the commissions and he made like
two million bucks. With that two million dollars, he angel invested a little.
little bit. And one of his angel investments made like half a million dollars. And so here he is sitting
with like two and a half to three million dollars at the age of mid 30s. Okay. So about last 20 months ago,
when was Bitcoin $6,000? Yeah, about about a year and a half, two years ago. Or no, sorry,
when it was three thousand, whatever it was. He put $3 million into Bitcoin. Everything he had.
Everything, 100% of everything he had to the point of like, I think he like saved like,
$10,000 or $20,000 for living expenses. He put most everything he had. And also, he borrowed money.
I don't, I'm, uh, he was able to borrow money, uh, somehow like through like, like, like, as
simple as like Robin Hood gives you a little bit of margin, but he was able to borrow money to the
point of like he was in debt a significant amount of money and he bought a ton of Bitcoin.
Well, last December, when it hit 65 or 63,000 dollars, his three million dollars,
turned into around
$100 million.
And he sold about half of it.
So he's got like this cushion.
And then he up and left and moved to another country.
And he lives there because he's like, you know,
I believe that like this country is the future.
And the point of the story is I'm not like this crazy person.
I don't think you are either.
You have a family.
You're not going to up and move them.
Although you will take interesting bets.
But, and I recognize I'm not this human being.
I am so thankful that crazy people like this exist.
For our amusement.
Not for our amusement necessarily, but like the world needs, like his boldness was like rooted in some type of selfishness.
He wants to get risk, get rich.
But that type of boldness, even though this may not be the best example, but that personality type is what pushes society forward and actually does weird, crazy stuff that ends up becoming normal and common for us.
Right.
Dude, I don't know if, I don't think this is uncommon, but I feel special the way, I feel special
that I'm this way, but I know this is actually most people, I think.
But I fucking love greatness in any field.
Like, you could just be like, hey, you play billiards?
I'm like, no, check this out.
This person is the best in the world of billiards.
Tell me more.
I saw watching them.
I'll watch them for eight hours straight.
I'll then go watch the documentary about them.
And then I'll go find the book about them.
And I'll just keep going deep because there's something about greatness that is just so, like, attractive to me.
And so recently, do you watch the TV show, Dave?
Of course.
I like what's the guy's name?
The rapper.
Lil Dickie.
Yeah, Lil Dickie.
So Dave is a show that I started watching.
And I love Dave.
Dave is like a hilarious show to me.
And it's a very unique show, right?
And it's not like most TV shows.
It's not made like most TV shows.
it uses like everybody's real names it's like kind of set in hollywood it's this guy's story of trying
to be a big rapper which is his real story and then it's kind of like he's not like it's not entourage
where he's just like cool and cool shit keeps happening models keep throwing themselves to him it's
like the opposite uh he's kind of like a nerdy jewish guy who happens to be an aspiring rapper
and you know things happen to him that are not so great all the time and so um i just love this dude
this dude is like he's so talented he's very talented as a rapper if you haven't listened to the
Yeah, Lil Dickie Sway freestyle.
We should put that whole freestyle at the end of this episode.
Dan, do that.
Just grab the whole audio for that freestyle and put it at the end of this episode.
One where he gives the girl flowers.
Where he gives her flowers, exactly.
That freestyle is amazing, although, I mean, obviously it's not an actual freestyle.
And then, you know, to then go into, like, how he marketed himself.
So he's a former ad agency guy who got his job at an agency and was, like, writing a rap song for, like, Doritos to, like, win the client, when the gig, win the account.
then leaves to go become an actual rapper.
His story is kind of like he works for a long time on his album,
doesn't show anyone has no results to show for it,
kind of like runs out of time and money doing this,
and then like launches his first music video and it like goes viral
because he had put so much work into his craft of like making this work.
And he's completely authentic, right?
So like back to a Navalism, escape competition through authenticity.
Most of the things you want occur in very competitive spaces.
and the answer is not to try to outcompete everybody by being better because everybody's trying to be better.
The way to do it is to be different.
The easiest way to be different is to be completely you because nobody can be better at you than you.
You've been you your whole life.
You have a lifetime of experience at it.
And so similarly for Dave, his niche in rapping is like being, you know, an awkward white guy rapper just kind of growing through life, trying to get with women and failing sometimes and sometimes succeeding and, et cetera.
et cetera. And so I think this guy is so impressive to me. And so I love finding these, like,
you know, whether it's in the UFC, that's why I love Connor McGregor and his rise, because
early on I was like, this guy seems like he's full of greatness and then you see it play out.
And you're like, wow, that was amazing. Dave in the rap scene. So this, and you're talking about
this with Edison and some of the books that you're, Naval, like some of the content you're
consuming. I don't know. Like, what do you think? Are we,
kind of like, are we unique in this or is this?
I feel like everybody loves greatness, right?
But is there something different about the way we purchase?
I think that I think it's because we have a privilege,
we've been privileged in that you and I have seen people who have,
we have seen like dozens of people accomplish things that A,
most people like hear rumors about or movies about like, like, no, I know this person.
And a lot of them is financial.
But, you know, they sold their company.
They made $500 million.
like we know many people have done that.
And so we like, we firsthand know like, man, greatness is real and you could self-actualize.
We know it's real.
The second thing is we know people that have been created or invented or worked on things that
everyone else takes for granted.
And you're like, dude, you have no idea what it takes to like, to have like made that a reality.
It just, it's so impressive.
And I think that because of that, yeah, we like appreciate bold people who are also capable.
Right.
And so I think a lot of people.
are like that, but not that many people.
For example, when I go to a convenience store and there's like a sign taped to the door,
I'm like, do you have any fucking pride?
Fix that shit.
Like, put a proper frame.
Like, do this the right way.
It'd like be the best.
You detest, you detest lack of greatness.
I can't stand that.
But like, you know, there's a reason why, like, we're not the only ones.
There's a reason why Giro, what's that Giro loves sushi or Giro sushi?
Yeah.
Or like Nike.
Nike's whole marketing is not about the rubber in their shoes.
It's about like great athletes.
because everybody loves great athletes.
Oh, that's an easy one that everybody loves.
No, but I like it.
Like, I don't care about weightlifting, but I'm like, waitlifting.
I'm like, dude, look how this guy's like weighing his food every single day and getting
up at 530.
Like, just for the, like, I just, I love that.
So we'll, let me move on to one more thing, but yeah, I do.
I love greatness.
And I'll tell you these last two things that I've read.
Can I leave one point on that?
I would say definitely a lot of good has come from being a fan of greatness.
but I would say try to be a fan of greatness, not a fan of the people.
And the reason I say that is because what often happens is when people get really into greatness,
they go study these people.
And then their net conclusion is, wow, they're great and they're different than me.
And they sort of like separate.
It's almost like, oh, that's a different species.
And there's a way to do this that's better, which is basically you get entertainment
and inspiration from them and education from them of the things that they do.
but like don't count yourself as something different.
Treat yourself like that's you.
You're them.
You're no different than them.
They are just like you.
They're just made of the same things as you,
had the same doubts as you,
had the same insecurities as you,
had the same struggles as you.
And so like don't like create this divide of the great people
and then you because then it's counterproductive.
Then every time you learn about their greatness,
it reinforces this kind of like negative perception of yourself.
Instead, if you think about yourself,
just like them. Then every time you learn about them, it creates a positive reinforcement about
what you can also do. And I'll tell you just the last few things I consumed this week that made a
difference. The first is not, or the last couple, nonviolent communication. It's real touchy-feely.
You know what non-violent communication is? I've never read it, but I've heard about it. Yeah.
It's a way to speak in a way, I guess, I don't know. How would you explain it?
Basically, I have a problem. Like, I suck at dealing with people. Like my emotions get the best
to me. I get angry at people and I communicate stuff. And I'm like, why am I getting angry?
agree, like, this is so counterproductive.
I do this with Sarah.
I've done it with you before.
I've done it with all my coworkers.
I just communicate horribly.
So I'm actually trying to learn a better way to communicate, a more effective way to
communicate.
And this is, like, giving you a toolkit.
So it's basically, like, it just gives you, like, a better way to talk to people.
So you give us one nugget from it.
So what's, what's one tweak?
Dude, it's really hard.
It's like, like, it's so opposite of how I do things.
So, for example, like, like, there's like a, like a, okay, so,
So there's someone who's an expert on this is going to like criticize me and how am I explaining it.
But it's quite complicated for me because it's so not normal.
But basically the idea here is like, look, I'm not going to judge you for you telling me this.
I'm not going to get angry.
I'm not going to judge you.
But I actually just want to clarify like so you feel like this, correct?
Okay.
Well, what I need from you is X, Y, and Z.
Are you able to, like, are we able to, can I get that from you or no?
And then it's like that type of like very like crystal clear.
And then like you'll say things like, look,
look, can you repeat back what you thought I said?
So, for example, I'll tell you to do something and I'll say, and you'll say, okay, fine.
I'll be like, can you repeat back?
Well, you said if you don't do this, you're going to yell it.
Let me find a better example.
Okay.
My wife and I, we got into like an argument over, I forget what we got into an argument over,
but I said, can you repeat back to me what you thought I said?
Well, you said it's going to piss you off if I do this again.
And I was like, no, I actually didn't mean to express the idea.
idea of I'm going to be angry at you. It was just like it hurts my feelings when this happens.
Right. You know what I mean? So it's a different it's a different way to communicate. I'm not good at it.
This is why I'm reading this fucking book. Clearly I can barely describe the damn thing. The last thing or the second to last thing, the courage to be disliked.
Great book. I started getting into it. Um, because after Naval and it's just like there's a few
takeaways here. I'll read the, my four takeaways. The first is, it's dangerous to believe that your
past, it determines your future. I know it's fluffy. If you focus on what's wrong with you,
you might be looking for reasons to hate yourself on purpose. Again, fluffy. Third, most of what we think
is competition is just made up and is hurting your happiness. And four, this is like crazy woo-woo.
Basically, life is just a bunch of like sounds and lights and like the emotion. We assign emotion
to it. And so you don't actually, like you can assign a happy emotion or not. So that's the last one.
And then the last article I read that made a big difference. There's this New Yorker article written
in 2014 about Sam Altman. Have you ever read this?
Maybe. I like to study Sam Altman, but I don't remember this one.
It's written in 2016. A New Yorker, it's called Sam Altman's Manifest Destiny.
And I was rereading this, and I want to tell you a few reasons. First, in 2016, he talks about
this. They ask him what his hobbies are and what he does when he's not working. He goes,
I like racing cars. I like renting planes and flying them. Oh, and I've got one odd thing that I
like. I like to prep for survival. Seeing their bebuilderment, he explained. My problem,
sorry, I'm bouching this. The problem is, when my friends get drunk, they talk about ways the world
will end. After a Dutch lab modified H5N1 bird flu viruses five years ago, making it super
contagious, the chance of lethal virus being released the next 20 years will become, well, non-zero.
So I have a plot of land in Big Sur that I can fly to.
I have antibiotics, batteries, water, gas masks made by Israel Defense Force all ready to go.
This was in 2016.
That's kind of cool, right?
He also talks about basically he sold his company and he goes, he profited $5 million and he invested all of it in startups,
which I thought was pretty crazy because we're talking about like crazy freaks.
it's just a really good article.
I think people should read this because Sam Altman is like a freak weirdo,
and that's like a compliment because we're talking about extreme personalities,
and I think it's like a really cool insight.
And it's one of the only long form articles I've ever seen written about them.
So I've been rereading that this week.
That's a cool one.
I'm going to check that out.
I remember Paul Graham had once said something,
and Paul Graham's obviously a fan of Sam Altman because Paul Graham started White Comminator
and then he put Sam Altman in charge of it.
And Sam Altman was by no means the most successful.
successful YC alumni at the time.
I think his company sold for 30 million, but it was kind of like many ways of
failure.
It didn't succeed.
It raised 40 and it sold for 30.
Yeah, exactly.
And so I think he got some out of it, but, you know, whatever.
But Paul Graham once said like, he's like, when I was talking to Sam Altman, I think
maybe for the first time or second time, he's like, I had this thought, oh, this is what
it would have been like to talk to Bill Gates at 21.
And that's like pretty high praise for somebody.
So I thought that was like pretty cool.
I don't know, pretty cool description.
Pretty cool description.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of weird things about Altman that I love.
I should come up with a better word than weird, but peculiar things.
So, for example, listen to this sentence.
In a class that Altman taught at Stanford in 2014, which by the way, in 2014, he must have been like 28.
He remarked that the formula for estimating a startup's chance of success is something like idea, times product, times execution, times team, times luck, where luck is a random number between zero and 10,000.
And like little lines like that, I just think it's crazy that someone thinks like that.
And it's just, it's peculiar, it's exciting, it's really neat.
There's another story where he, he's working with Brian Chesky, the CEO of Airbnb,
and they're about to pitch in front of everyone at YC.
And there's this great line where he says, Brian Cheskey goes,
I attribute a lot of our success to Sam Altman and YC.
And they're like, well, why?
He was like, well, right before our deck, they,
We had a limited, we had our deck.
It was all built out.
We had limited our projected revenue on the deck to $30 million, Chesky said.
Sam stopped us and looked at us and goes, do me a favor.
Take all those M's, you know, the 30 million and change them to B's.
Altman recalls telling them, either you don't believe everything you said in the rest of the deck
about how big this is going to be, or you're ashamed, or I just can't do math.
Yeah.
And he just said, change all the Ms to Bs.
And I think like that weird type of thinking is actually pretty interesting.
Yeah, people who can cut through the noise.
and just get straight to the heart of it.
All right, this is cool.
This is kind of like stuff that Sam's been reading and listening to,
stuff we've been consuming.
I don't know.
Is this interesting?
Is this going to be good?
I enjoy the conversation.
Dan, what do you think?
Is this going to be a good pod?
Yeah, I think it's cool.
I think it'd be a fun thing to check in every couple weeks or a month.
All right.
Well, let's see.
But that's the episode.
Little Dickie, go turn to rock.
Wonder, drop a beat on them.
Uh, sway in the morning.
Turn that beat up, huh, in your headphones.
Get that headphones, okay.
Turn it up, okay?
Turn it up, OQ.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
Get serious, there we go.
Little old dick, and I'm back in this bitch.
I know y'all know when I rap what it is.
All facts don't fib.
Got a gang full of hits in touch with the kids like a pito.
Ugh, I'm a jam like Shaq.
I'm a bang when I wish.
Up in this bitch like a feeder.
Say no timelines wearing you timeless.
Hold up, MJ 96, meaning I'm back on my bullshit.
You know I come hard like a full dick.
Suburban and white.
Stay with the bread like some cool.
it though. Look how it spread. Cool with flow. I can make them right with an IG live and my girl
got bombs on a by jihad and between her legs is looking right, hypoten noose. Ugh, bring it all down.
Hold up sway, let me bring it all down. Been out here, citizenship. Look at how I got everybody
tuned in right now. They would probably watch this for an hour. Tracy, I brought you flour.
Gas out the ass like flatchel in. I was slept on like mattresses. I got my head right
aspirin. I'm cashing in. I'm cashing in. I'm not about to hold the paper and display.
like a thumbtack. No touchback. They about
to run his back. And if you ever met me, you root
for me sharp shit. Come on, I'm a dome. I'm a unicorn.
Part of my breath. Only Perky
set up up with his breasts. Elevator kiss
and hos of the wrists. Freaky Friday I get in.
I'm like, Chris, wait. Sway.
Pass me to rock. Get it. Post. Jab.
Up fake. Jumping to
them. Two shots at the line. I got
like a mime. Odell, beg a mic cut
on a dime. Glow in the dark. See me any
time. Used to put the Xbox controller on my dick and let it
vibrate. How I jerked off as a child. Came a long
way. Now I'm like, hey, girl, you
You, me, fuck, and the shit work.
Hey, her brother looking at me like, hey, fuck her bro.
Sway, her brother looking at me like, hey, fuck her bro.
I'm like Kareem Abdul, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
These hooks got me scoring, see me coming from afar.
Rapping in France, I never need an advance.
I'm switching it up like I'm trans.
Although I'm the Trojan, man, I'm eating the pussy like cervical cancer.
I know where I'm going, but shit if my GPS died, I sleep in my sedan.
I can't through the shmurder dance.
I get caught up.
Looking awkward.
That's a work for you?
Sometimes I'll catch it for a minute.
O.J. Witty, y'all wonder how I did it.
My mind hit me once.
She'd luck it and sue, but I'll stomp you all out like a Domencun.
All the shoe brands wanted me to sign.
I remember they thought I was lonely island.
There will not be another like me.
I could go viral if I put out a snippet.
I'm sick like a coda.
You really could get it.
I'll always be playing just like I'm embedded.
I got a leg up like Ottoman's door.
My television show is coming, but that is irrelevant.
Right now I'm rapping like presents get.
How did I get here?
I got big rapping like Diddy.
I'm prevalent.
Hold her.
Let me find the melody
All my fans are getting mad at me
They just want to hear me spazzing now
But I just had to put a couple smashes out
How is this shit a pop star
Rap name is a dick joke
How did he make it that far?
Good pussy at the crib like a house cat
They're waiting on my buzz like the outback
In and out with the bag like I make tea
When I do shop and sprees
Eyebrows long like AD
Girls get wet like navy
Pull up like I'm Stefan shoot cream
Players in the NBA text me
If I want a diet Coke
Someone brings me Diet Coke
All my live shows nuts
Like I Expos testicles
Hold up wait
Let me add lid my shit
Oh yeah yeah
Look at my penmanship
I write this
I'm a car's junior model
For real
Just on a side like soccer moms
I could have sold you stock and bonds
Have it so fast like Ramadan
The Autobond
The Charmin running down the bond
From Carson's arm
I'm off the farm
I'm on the court
The Jumbotron is on the boy
They play in my song
LeBron is nodding
Am I James Worthy
Look at my bars
I'm met up like Bernie
Oh we having fun
Girls see me and start blushing
Just because I'm a
I used to always get a boner at my physical sway.
If this is cultural appropriation, what can I say?
What would you have me do?
You know I gotta rap.
But the times now are scary.
Hold up, wait, take a step back, days.
Think about the shit.
Internet is a permanent place.
This is gonna live forever.
Breathe, analyze.
Think about everything.
I'm such an idiot.
I used to cover R. Kelly songs at my shows
without even knowing it was problematic.
I feel the pressure under more scrutiny.
What I do, act more Jewishly.
Come on, Sway. Write my eulogy.
Am I looking like I need to be?
need to get a job or looking like I need a bodyguard.
I play tennis with Leonardo.
How y'all train on track like cargo.
I go dumb, don't dumb it up.
Don't fuck on planes, but I'm coming up.
Add up my views to sum it up.
I was just on Sports Center.
Dun-da-da-da.
I think this is good.
I've done enough.
My haters look mad like son of her.
Now let me go and finish on my album.
Jesse Smollett.
You know I'm going to fuck it up.
Oh.
And I'm out.
And I'm gone.
And I've got to catch a flight.
Thank you.
All right.
Get on little dinky, ladies and gentlemen.
One done and out, Kel.
You see how that man did that right now?
That last line.
He only does a line that gets to me, man.
Oh, my God.
The one and only, Lil Dickie, ladies and gentlemen.
Your man or your word.
I feel like I can rule the world.
I know I could be what I want to.
I put my all in it like no days off.
On a road, let's travel, never looking back.
