My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 105 - WANDAVISION EPISODES 1-2 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: January 18, 2021

Robbie and Clem are BACK to *ATTEMPT* to recap the first couple episodes of Marvel's WandaVision! It's pretty confusing tho! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.comYou can find e...very episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Do you ever get worried that someone can look at you through your camera? Oh, yeah. I now know what it would look like if someone looks at me, and you were just saying that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Do you have a retainer or something? You were just kind of just fiddling with your mouth or your tongue or something? No, I think I was eating. I think I was eating goldfish. You have very good manner. You chew with your mouth closed even when no one is around. That's Mama Fox. If you're listening, I know you don't miss an episode.
Starting point is 00:00:29 You've raised a lad with great manners. He's a good kid even when no one's watching. He doesn't think anyone's watching. Yeah, everyone, buckle up because don't worry. We don't know what the fuck's going on either. We're going to go through this all together. We're all in the same boat with WandaVision. And let me tell you this, Clem, just to start off the podcast, we've been talking about
Starting point is 00:00:48 WandaVision for a while now on the podcast, just like teasing it, talk about the trailers, whatnot. And you've said multiple times, I think like, man, we're going to need the help of the basement listeners, the Reddit, everyone to help understand what's going on in the show. And my biggest fear was that that wouldn't be the case i actually texted jeff the day before i watched wandavision i said i'm really worried this is going to be too much of like the mcu we know because i want this to be weird and jeff was like i don't think you have to worry about that oh my god this is a weird show i understand that this is not for everyone but this is exactly what i wanted from it in the sense that i almost got watchmen vibes in the beginning of Watchmen, how, you know, with Ozzy,
Starting point is 00:01:27 you didn't know what was going on with him. And for episodes, you're like, what the fuck? But as long as you keep following along shits unraveling and stuff like that, I was getting those vibes with this, with like the little teases of shit they were tossing in a little Twilight Zone vibes. I dug it a lot. I forgot about how Watchmen starts like that. And I kind of did the watchman
Starting point is 00:01:46 without doing the catch-up then once i did the refresh i'm like oh everything's kind of making sense again that would have been a good way to go about this i think you could have watched every single movie in the mcu before this and had no idea what the fuck was going on to be fair i think that there's going to be some listeners and some just viewers in general who are dire comic people who can probably connect the dots they've gone on the reddits rob and i we did a little rob and i did a little bit of research we we dove into we're doing some like with mandalorian i like to kind of be clueless and as i go in you kind of fill in the blanks for me i think we all need to kind of help a little bit by my idea for the the podcast um i don't know if we do a podcast logo for when we do the wandavision recaps but it
Starting point is 00:02:23 needs to be the wandavision logo and then we have a little tf when we do the WandaVision recaps, but it needs to be the WandaVision logo. And then we have a little TF next to the W WandaVision. It says WTF WandaVision. Cause I don't know what the fuck's going on. We're all figuring it out together. We're one big happy family. And this is my little rant that I just made a note of here. I'm with you where I think it is cool to have something new and different
Starting point is 00:02:41 and try to figure shit out. It's much better doing it with a show like WandaVision instead of, say, the final season of Game of Thrones where you were like, try to figure out what the Night King is doing and then he just fucking dies. There is an issue, though, and this is not Marvel's fault, but this is the first, like, big thing for Marvel after Endgame, right? Obviously, Spider-Man was so – Spider-Man, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:01 If Black Widow had come out, and I don't know if anything else would have come out during 2020, this wouldn't be the first Marvel we're getting. So everyone who either, A, they watched Endgame back in 2019, and this is their first thing since then, or they spent quarantine catching up on the MCU, getting all excited, like, oh, me and I'm going to hang out in the base with Robin Clem. We're going to know what the fuck's going on.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And then they got I Love Lucy and B-Witch, and they're like, what the fuck? So guys, listen, it's okay okay we are all in this together and i honestly think mandalorian kind of fucked with wandavision a little bit too because mandalorian was like again it wasn't like one of those things you had to like know everything about star wars you jumped in you could jump in in an episode and and watch like episode three as your first episode and kind of enjoy it this one you could know everything
Starting point is 00:03:43 you could be fucking wander herself could be fucking Wanda herself and be like, what the fuck is going on right now? I don't think she even knows what's going on, right? She's got no idea. Don't worry, guys. We're in this together right now. We're one big happy family in the basement. We turned the heat up.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We got the iced tea. We got the chips out. Everyone's just hanging in the basement. Three cheese going around the room. We're expanding our minds a little bit. There's a really good point about this being like the first Marvel thing in a while and people might be taken by surprise by that. I didn't even have time to think about that but you're definitely
Starting point is 00:04:07 right when it comes to that so my wife um she she's kind of one of those people where we watched guardians a couple times she re-watched endgame and infinity war and she's kind of like getting into this stuff now because the kids are into it too and this and she's like oh you want like let's watch one of it she asked me to like watch wandavision with me i'm like all right cool and then i was thinking you're not gonna enjoy this and i have a good buddy of mine too who i think is kind of in the same boat as her and he wrote to me he's like i watched the first one i was 50 out i watched the second one and i'm 90 never watching it again and i said listen this is what i'm gonna do and tell all the listeners we're gonna recap this every single monday or whenever it is whenever abu rabi can get on we'll have the
Starting point is 00:04:44 updates we'll do it and listen it might be like four episodes before it actually feels like a Marvel show, but I think it's going to be worth it. But if you don't want to do that, you can wait, download the episode, rate, subscribe, five star, all that stuff. But we're going to go through this together. It's going to be all right. It's a lot to take in, especially if you just jumped into Marvel and you're like, this is what you fucking nerds are watching all this time. Yeah definitely i'm not one of these people that's saying episode one and two were groundbreaking television that was unlike anything i've ever seen and i loved it so much episode one and two they were just set up honestly i really enjoyed
Starting point is 00:05:16 it you know nothing blew my mind about it in the sense that i was like oh my god this is the greatest marvel programming i've ever but i think it's going to get to the point where the payoff is going to be worth it. And I think we're going to be like, oh, wow. It was cool how they really did that. Before we get into it, let's talk about 3G. I feel weird talking about 3G in Abu Dhabi because this shit is illegal here. So if you're back in America, I think that's all good.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Federally legal in the US though, it's Delta 8 THC and all THC is illegal over here in Abu Dhabi. So that's why I'm super stressed as well, super anxious. I don't have 3G in the U.S. though. It's Delta 8 THC and all THC is illegal over here in Abu Dhabi. So that's why I'm super stressed as well, super anxious. I don't have 3C in my life. If I did have 3C, I'd be taking the gummies. I'd be taking the vapes. I'd be putting old tinctures in my weird skinny ginger ale that they have. They have different shapes of cans in Abu Dhabi apparently. And if you go to 3C.com right now, that's the number 3chi.com, and you're 21 or older, you can purchase all of this stuff for 5% off with the promo code MMB. Not CBD.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It is psychoactive. Like I said, it does give you a buzz, so use it responsibly. But this stuff is amazing. I honestly cannot wait to get back to New York just to be loaded back up on 3chi. Get this man some fucking 3chi. We're going to have to have, have like a greeting you at the airport, like the Bills fans welcoming bad people. Get this man a shield.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I'll be a little one. Get this man a shield. All right, Clem, you ready to talk about WandaVision? Let me take a little bit more of my 3G to get onto the right, you know, plane of existence. Yep, I'm ready to go now. All right, so episode one begins with a really awesome 50s style intro. You know, it's so everyone referenced like you did, I Love Lucy and Bewitched.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Those were the main two, I think, inspirations that everyone was citing. And I loved the intro song from the start. I was like, oh, this is great. The aspect ratio is different. It's in mono audio wise. So it's like back in the 50s. It didn't have stereo surround sound and the intro we have Wanda and vision in their kitchen and they see heart on their calendar and Neither of them know why the heart is there and they're both sort of trying to convince the other one that they do and they
Starting point is 00:07:19 Lie to each other vision goes off to work dressed in his normal human disguise. And Wanda goes and meets her neighbor, Agnes, played by Katherine Han, one of my favorite actresses from Parks and Rec. She's so funny on that show. So it was nice to see her in this show. And she is the neighbor here. So that's like our first, hey, meet the neighborhood, meet the neighbor. This is the couple, you know, the unusual couple, Vision's going off to work. What was your first impression of this show was it what you thought it would be so this was exactly what i thought it was going to be i
Starting point is 00:07:50 thought it was going to be like very cut and paste i didn't know if every episode was going to be a different um like decade or if it was going to be kind of a mix throughout the decades based just on we saw on the trailers but i was like oh like after the first you know 10 minutes i was like all right we're just staying here and it'll probably gradually change as far as it goes um i just kind of like i sat back and i had fun i was like the thing is i went in with low expectations i think this show does have a low floor where if the things don't hit as much as we want them to it could be an absolute disaster and i think people are already like pulling their e-brake on and jumping out of the car but i do think it does have a high ceiling if everything kind of comes together so i'm like just let's just enjoy the ride hopefully we get some easter eggs which we got
Starting point is 00:08:30 a ton of so that's fine i'm an easter egg guy you're an easter egg guy totally total like huge easter egg i i actually easter eggs like easter egg easter eggs the easter egg hunt is sneaky one of the greatest things in the fucking world right right? Like Santa Claus gets a ton of shine and well-deservedly the man fucking, you know, made our day a few weeks ago here. But Easter egg hunts, and as someone who now hides the eggs, it's so much fun for me too.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It's a lot more fun than staying up till like midnight and like sneaking around my own house, hoping I don't wake the kids up. Easter eggs are fucking awesome. So I just kind of went in like, hey, enjoy this. Maybe I'll have some funny, quirky things. And I think we'll get into some of the double meanings and stuff like that throughout the show um but but i enjoyed i also didn't realize that katherine han is um
Starting point is 00:09:13 what's her parks and rec i couldn't i thought it was anna gasteyer first and i was like what is she from but i know her but she's from parks and rec huh is she the reporter yeah she's like the drunk like always drunk and yeah she's basically playing a very similar character yeah exactly that's exactly it yeah so um very i like i was i was pretty cool with it right off the bat but i can understand why people are like floating and they could never get it but um i never really want god intended or you really could like there's some people who will surprise you they're i love lucy super diehard fans honeymooners fans i wasn't into any of that older stuff so i i do like the honeymooners a lot it would always be a new
Starting point is 00:09:48 year's eve tradition of mine like when the ball would drop on the cw11 they would start playing honeymooners marathons and i would watch them all i love that shit never saw i love lucy never saw bewitched but i'm like such a diehard full house fan from when i was little i watched that show more than almost any other and that's what this reminded me of i said to people like they were like hey what'd you think i was like i liked it but it reminded me way more of full house than it did any marvel movie and i was okay with that i was like all right we'll get to it eventually like i said you know they're teasing things to lead up to an eventual marvel movie at the end yeah and i think that's the biggest thing is that i think just enjoy these for if i like when the inevitable like 80s, 90s sitcom part of this comes.
Starting point is 00:10:27 But the fact that she's an Olsen sibling with the Olsen twins are her twins and she's going to kind of be in like a potentially a full house like, you know, parody or whatever. It's kind of cool. So like, again, I think we can all enjoy this ride together. And like they're they're great actors, the two of them. So that's, I don't know. I think it can be very, very fun. So this episode, everyone was saying the theories, I guess it's not officially confirmed, but everyone thinks the first episode was 1950s and the second episode was 1960s. That's at least the assumption being made there. So Wanda meets the neighbor, Agnes, like I said, and while she meets her,
Starting point is 00:11:04 she tells her about the heart on the calendar. And it doesn't really lead on that, hey, this is everything about us. But she's like, oh, yeah, this might be our anniversary. And Agnes eventually helps her formulate a plan. Oh, well, yeah, you got to surprise them on an anniversary, whatever. Vision goes to work. He finds out that the heart is not in fact for their anniversary it is because his boss is named mr heart at this company that we i guess we don't really know where he works because he doesn't know
Starting point is 00:11:30 what he does for work and he has to host mr heart and his wife for dinner being he's the new guy there that's like the rule so he's like oh shit so he calls wanda and he's like just making sure you're ready for tonight she's like oh i'm ready and neither of them knows what's going on it's a classic sitcom gag really and speaking of classic sitcom gags vision brings mr hart and his wife in it's like a dimly lit room and wanda comes out in like a fluffy it reminded me of like the shit that the girls wearing austin powers like i don't know it's like a fluffy silk like robe or whatever yeah and she puts her hands over mr heart's eyes and she's like guess who and he's like what in the world and then it's just this big awkward situation where it blows up everyone realizes what's happening vish is like oh the
Starting point is 00:12:14 heart you know mr heart and his wife we gotta lead him over so they do this makeshift dinner wanda's in the kitchen the whole time you know with her powers and i loved the visual effects gag of like getting to see the strings and it just didn't look as uh clean as a marvel movie would awesome decision by them even in the end when she puts the rings on them and it's like so jagged i loved that um agnes comes over she brings a bunch of food for them and vision is just trying to keep them distracted the whole time this was legitimately funny i thought when he starts singing yakety yak and shit i was laughing yeah the the yakety yak gag which is great and shout out to the the guys on the yak as well which i used to think the great outdoors which is such a fucking underrated movie john candy was my dude growing up then i have the
Starting point is 00:12:58 yak which is obviously big cat and all those crazy sons of bitches on the radio and now wandavision i mean it's fucking like you can't get much better than John Candy, Big Cat and the MCU, right? That song is just so preposterously, but it's like so American too. Just everyone having fun. I loved it. Like you said, the strings was very cool.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And I like how they had the line about the indestructible head. Yes. And my husband pointed that to me on Twitter today and I didn't even realize it till they did but i was like oh man that kind of pulled at my heartstrings yeah that fucked me up and like how it how it crashes even the dish kind of crashes like the mind stone was ripped out and crushed by thanos okay that's the other thing here this is a tough this is tough for
Starting point is 00:13:39 the thanos fans seeing this guy alive that we basically had killed our guy it didn't feel good but like when I actually like the little bit of those old school shows I watched I always could appreciate the humor where it's like oh yeah man you gotta keep him happy oh let me keep me happy like it was such like the back and forth the banter was funny and then even like the like the making whoopie scene right where she coming out in the laundry like you said and even like even like the thing like she's from Sokovia which I thought was a nice little like breadcrumb there and they always were like thinking on their feet and that's kind of how they did the comedy back then i i dug that too and again like i understand people are gonna um criticize a lot of it but if you're just like
Starting point is 00:14:15 enjoying the ride this is episode one and two of what is it nine episode series so there's plenty of time left we don't need everything answered this quickly if you went to the movies you could be pissed um if they only give you one episode i think you best i think they should probably like bang out these episodes as quick as possible until we start getting a little more meat on the bone um but i was gonna say it was smart of them to put two out at once because if they would have put out just one and then episode two came out next week i think people would have shit on episode two and been like where's this going agreed and i think and i don't know if i wonder if they did that uh because of that or because like mandalorian that's kind of what they're gonna do at disney is they're
Starting point is 00:14:53 gonna give you the first two to kind of drum up interest in the show but either way i think they definitely made out well um loved at the 70s show mom i mean that's just like someone who just brings a smile to you there's certain actors and actresses that just make you smile she makes you smile every single time i see that woman. And I didn't even watch 70 show that much, but me neither. Delightful person. Yeah. It's like a weird nostalgia thing. I think her and her husband both perfect for the like 50 sitcom role, like Mr. Hartless. So the way, like you said that he was like, sort of like, what's the word? Like nationalistic, like he's like fearing her because she's from sokovia yeah exactly um
Starting point is 00:15:25 and just like the old times that i don't know if that was like that's one of those things i want to know if it was just a trope or if it actually happened where like you had the boss over like once in a blue moon to like so like i'm thinking what would you do like if you had to have portnoy over what would you do like would you like i wouldn't cook for him i can't cook for portnoy i mean mom would you do make him a banging meal to i can't cook for port i mean mom what would you do make him a banging meal to be honest oh see that's the thing too is like i have to have him in the basement couldn't have to have the apartment yeah yeah dave's not a guy he doesn't struggle with someone who would have like a full meal at an employee's house either like maybe like a snack
Starting point is 00:15:58 or like a you can't do pizza with him you can't even do pizza with him you gotta stay away he's on it's a whole problem. It's a whole thing. So thank God we don't have to worry about that in hard jobs. Dave's never coming anywhere near the Casa de Club. I don't think he would. He'd like lose interest like 10 minutes up the fucking road from Manhattan. He's like, get me the fuck back to the office right now.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Thank God we don't live in the 50s. Thank fucking God. So dinner is served. I think they did breakfast for dinner. They said, oh, breakfast for dinner. How foreign, I think they did breakfast for dinner they said oh breakfast for dinner how foreign i think they are how sokovian and they start eating and mr heart begins to choke and this is where the episode immediately takes a turn into that twilight zone area where time kind of freezes and his wife keeps like repeating the same thing like stop it stop it
Starting point is 00:16:43 stop it stop and it was just like made me feel like stop it, stop it, stop it, stop. And it was just like made me feel like uneasy a little bit. It's like, oh, fuck, what's what's going on here? And eventually, Wanda almost it seems like she breaks character. She looks at Vision. She says, Viz, help him. And at this point, Dr. Hart has fallen on the floor. It's a fucking while that he's been choking.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Vision goes down. He uses his powers to reach into his throat. He pulls it out. And then everything kind of just snaps back to normal like that. And it's like that never happened. Mr. Hart gets up. He's like, oh, that was strange. Well, we better get going here.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And his wife leaves and everything like that. They sit on the couch, Wanda and Vision kind of hug each other. But they talk about how it's weird that they don't remember much about their previous relationship, how they don't have rings, how they don't have an anniversary. You could tell that something's off. It kind of feels like, for me, it felt like, and this is definitely on purpose, when you're in a dream and you start to try to think of things in your dream and you're like, wait a minute, none of this is adding up. What's going on? But you don't really think about it too far. And eventually they have an official song they declare, which is yakety yak
Starting point is 00:17:45 wanda puts some rings on their hands and the camera pulls back and we see that they're being watched by someone someone's just sitting at a computer watching this all go down and that was wandavision episode one there was one other thing that i saved for the end there's a commercial in the middle of wandavision episode one there I assume there's going to be one commercial per episode. This one was for Stark Industries' Toastmate 2000. You could hear it ticking down the whole time. Featured a man and a woman in the commercial. Both commercials did.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And there's a lot of theories that those are Wanda's parents, considering both commercials relate back to former traumas. This one being the bomb that killed her parents, and then she looked at that Stark Industries bomb, expecting it to explode with her and her brother. This is probably that. See, the Thanos guy, this hurts. The Tony Stark guy. This isn't going to be a very good series for my dog, Tony Stark.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I'm going to say this much. I don't think she cares too much for Tony Stark, considering everything he's put his finger, his hands on, somehow resulted in like a loved one of hers dying. I don't think she's a fan of the starks in general so that i i did not feel great about the little red light which you know you feel like you get it until you see the the dash of color you're like the the iron man sound i don't know how else to explain it so yeah there's definitely something uh something big there i don't know what it is but that kind of gave you the thing and the um when the choking thing that was like, I'm like, all right, this is like my theory about this.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And I think pretty much what most people think who, other than the people who are like, what the fuck is going on right now? Or like Wanda has somehow is in this reality. She's made this reality. How much of it is her choice? How much of it is she's being kind of like trapped here? We don't know. That thing is when it feels like, you know kind of like trapped here we don't know that thing is when it feels like you know i feel like i don't know if she was choking someone and they were you know it's like when you wake up like in the hospital or something in a coma and someone's you know you see a vision or at least had a dream even and then you kind of like come out and you know like i hear aj like screaming and he just his screaming is that in my dream as i try to not wake
Starting point is 00:19:43 up and have to deal with him it seems like that could be a thing where she's kind of darth vader force choking someone or something like that and the way they changed the like it was even the camera they went from like the three camera to the one camera yeah it was kind of to give you that like it was definitely an uneasy feeling it was like the zoom ins and when she said like vision help him people pointed this out i'm not the first to say it but it sounded like she was like commanding him which made me think for the first time like oh this probably isn't wanda and vision this is probably all in wanda's head i don't think vision has much control over himself no i don't think he has any i think he's just honestly just a complete you know creation
Starting point is 00:20:19 of hers because when they were asking was all the questions what is this anniversary for how did we meet when does it you know when was our special dates are we gonna have kids blah blah blah it was always like they just lost their way and like i said it was kind of the dream where you start pulling the thread and it's just disappearing and just kind of unraveling it's fucking um inception you know when the buildings start collapsing and everything like they're definitely starting to realize they're they're in the inception part of it so and people are pointing out the other thing is like house of m and and there's a bunch of storylines that definitely relate to that yeah there's a lot of stuff where it's like either the number which has to do with like comic books that vision was in or it's like legitimate threads or potential hints of characters
Starting point is 00:20:58 and i'm like this is a lot to take in especially again x-men guy none of this shit is i know i'm not a horrible comics guy so i don't know like the the backstory i've had to do all this research recently this is one thing i do know and this doesn't have to be a moral person three names that were either in episode one or episode one and two ralph norm fred i need to meet a ralph norman a fred and i'm not talking like a 90 year old ralph norman fred i need to meet someone my age that's a guy you can throw some beers back with have a cigar it's like an eddie you know like a guy i was like she's about to say i was literally just about to bring eddie up that's like eddie's group would be a ralph a norm and an ed yeah it's exactly it my um my daughter's uh bus driver he's his name is eddie too and i said to him i'm like this i wasn't
Starting point is 00:21:41 even thinking about eddie for barstool but it's like just something about an eddie it's just always great to have an eddie and a Ralph and Norman, a Fred. So those four, that's the big four of just guys. You can just hang out with, have a good time. So shout out, shout out to anyone out there named Ralph Norman, Fred. We're usually like ripping people's names. It feels nice to pat someone on the back. I know there has to be at least one of one of them.
Starting point is 00:21:59 There's got to be some listeners with those names. Come on, tweet us. If you've got those names, be like, Hey, thanks for the shout out on the names. We want to be friends with you. All all right let's get into episode two this is actually going to be fairly easy to recap i feel like because like we said one we don't really know what the fuck is going on and two it's not like mandalorian where we're like this happens and then this happens and then this happens and then this happens it's more just like i don't know this is the whole episode episode two definitely did have a little more hinting at what's going on though so we So we have a cold open, which I thought was interesting. I saw people say that cold opens developed in the 60s, so that's why they did that here.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And it's Wanda and Vision sleeping in their own beds, and they're awoken by a noise outside their window. They're both afraid of it, and eventually we see they push their beds together using their powers, which is a funny scene. And we see it's just a tree bouncing against their window. We then get an animated intro. I thought we were going to kind of have like the same intro for every episode. I don't know why foolishly, but we got like the bewitched intro almost animated,
Starting point is 00:22:54 which is cool. We cut to Wanda and vision rehearsing for the town magic show and they're doing, well, it's a, it's a fundraiser, not just a magic show, but their act is a magic show.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And their whole point is like, hey, we have to do this like humans do it, so we blend in. We have to make sure that they know we're not actually doing magic. And something cool about the big, they were doing the trick where it's like, hey, I'm going to put my assistant in this cabinet and then open the door and she won't be in there anymore. On the cabinet, it had like the mind stone. Did you realize that? that was really cool someone pointed that out to me on twitter and i was just geeking out about that and uh that is you know the setup for the episode that's pretty much everything about like what this episode is going to be it's all about the fundraiser the magic show stuff like that uh my first note here they sleep in different beds how often do you think they fucked that was my first question bob do we think that they got it on back and like i'm not talking um got it on
Starting point is 00:23:50 i'm fucking 90s hitting the skins whatever i said last time in the middle of a recap how do we think wanda and vision had a healthy sex life do you think that's a fair question to ask yeah oh it's definitely a fair question to ask i would say yeah i it's definitely a fair question to ask. I would say, yeah, I think they did. I feel like they did. And I feel like the- They seemed pretty happy in Infinity War when they were in Scotland at first, right? Yeah, that was, there was definitely,
Starting point is 00:24:13 that was an active sexual relationship. Just the kind of vibe I got off of them there. And I think the two separate beds becoming one, that's kind of that 60s, it's getting a little risky. Ooh, they're sharing a bed now kind of a thing so that that was my one question from uh the beginning there but yeah the the mind stone i thought was a nice little thing did did magic did they talk about magic in the first episode or was that just the second episode i think it was just the second okay because they were starting to blend
Starting point is 00:24:38 together i will say i think i like the first one more than the second well yeah right yeah yeah um and that's why i kind of thought like it was a smart idea for them to release them at the same time. Because they're so similar and everything. It kind of felt like one continuous story. So Wanda goes out to the yard. She's got to go to the fundraising committee. And Vision goes to the neighborhood to watch. Wanda immediately sees something in her bush, which is strange because it's colorful.
Starting point is 00:25:02 We could see already some red, some yellow. She walks up to it, and it's a helicopter. helicopter it looks like a toy helicopter but it's fully in color and it's like oh this is weird and right before we're about to like dig into it i guess she's interrupted by agnes and agnes is like hey we got to go to the fundraising committee now uh watch out for dotty she's the queen of the cul-de-sac. So you got to stay on her good side. We cut to then Vision meeting the neighborhood watch boys. And this is just, like you said, a crew that is amazing. I think there was even a Herbert in his neighborhood watch crew, which I love a good Herbert every now and then. Good, good ass Herbert. Herbert, Herb, Herbie. Like you can call them a bunch of different things too. H, I feel like big H you can kind of, Oh yeah. Um, big fan of a Herbert.
Starting point is 00:25:45 We're going to throw Herbert in that list with the Eddie group, the Eddie group Herbert's definitely part of that list. And he, he wore the Herbert name. Well, it's not easy to wear a Herbert. That's a Herbert. Absolutely. So Wanda goes to this fundraising committee and this is an Easter egg that blew my mind. I don't even know if you could call it an Easter egg, but she meets someone named Geraldine.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And this is actually Monica Rambeau Clem. Monica Rambeau is the little girl from Captain Marvel that was super friendly with her and everything. This is the woman that has been cast to play her in Captain Marvel too, is playing Geraldine in WandaVision. So we would have to assume based on that, that she is somehow seeing visions of Monica Rambeau here. And if I had to make a guess here, Monica Rambeau's helicopter went down and somehow maybe she got trapped in the bubble with Wanda or Wanda saw the helicopter go down and traumatic.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So she's envisioning it. Her mother was a fighter pilot, right? Right before the helicopter? I don't know. That is it. I didn't. So I read how it was the girl from Captain Marvel. And then our boy, Super Booster BC, Bernie Clancy, he pointed out how everything in color could be from the outside, which the helicopter would. And I guess the helicopter could have even been this noise they heard outside the window, right?
Starting point is 00:27:02 Because she looks up at the window. And they heard, like, helicopter wiring, like, like the the blades spinning like a few times in both episodes people said that you could hear like helicopters and the way she acts and this was people have pointed this out online the way she acts is like someone who's not a part of this where everyone else is kind of acting like it she's kind of like what the hell's going on obviously she appears in it later on the pool scene um so that definitely and the um the logo on the helicopter is the sword logo which everyone everyone knows shield right we know shield from now the new one is sword which is a different acronym now it's not uh i have it here so the original sword acronym it's kind of a shield for space was sentient world Observation and Response Department.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And in the show, it has changed to Sentient Weapon Observation and Response, which – Response to Vision, which we think if you're changing it from world observation to weapon observation, are you referring to Wanda as that weapon? Knowing that she's the most powerful avenger knowing that captain of marvel is right behind her could they be observing her somehow could wanda be so fucked up by vision's death that she's like in this depressive state and like killing people and they had to like subdue her and and watch her i don't know yeah because i mean that's the thing you don't get is that what if her powers are uncontrollable now you know what i mean yeah uh she's she's gonna be on one right she we saw okay so actually after thanos dies i guess after tony's funeral because she was there right and she was together but you know a night a couple glasses of wine you know here's a song that makes you think of her boy vision maybe the the long
Starting point is 00:28:40 empty bed where they used to have tons of sex together whatever it may be she's gonna be very upset and that is someone that's like the dark phoenix right i mean yeah that's the thing that i i kind of i kind of took away from endgame it's like the fact that she thanos realizes right away like just rain fire let me kill half of my people and just use all these things just to get rid of her from just basically picking him apart this bitch is one bad mother so um i think she's the weapon i i that's kind of another thing that's going around the line i i definitely subscribe to that yeah and a weird line that said during this fundraising meeting that i wanted to point out because we'll talk about it later is they say the devil's in the details and then all of a sudden in a jarring
Starting point is 00:29:20 way they're like it's not the only place he is that was like i've been like hey you know you're doing the old no just not anywhere that's what you say if you're like doing like drugs just like that was kind of weird but i do think there's a few ways we can kind of like connect that to other stuff i'm gonna by the way hate dotty hate dotty the worst guts horrible name too there's there's never a nice dotty dotty's always gotta be a bitch i'm sorry if there's any dotty's listening to this basically the anti the anti-Herbert is Dottie. I don't want to know anyone named Dottie. If you're Dottie, stop
Starting point is 00:29:49 listening. Great five stars. Stop listening. I've got AJ down here. AJ, we don't like Dottie in this house. She's very bad. I absolutely loved the buy your own bowling trophy. What a genius move that was i'm gonna go buy like
Starting point is 00:30:07 a lombardi trophy and just start telling people i like played i guess you can't buy a lombardi trophy i guess that's why you buy a super bowl ring you start telling people i was like an offensive lineman on like the 2007 giants or something like that i love that move that's a herbert move all the way 100 of herbert move um and i'll tell you one thing I learned from this show communist jokes always play they played back in the 60s oh my god I legitimately laughed out loud I like I was gagging I was laughing so hard and again coming back to my guy Eddie I don't like when people call him at red head I am a big Eddie fan I'm part of the head heads I always root for him in the dog walk uh I think he gets shit on way too much as a commissioner but communist jokes are just they're always funny i don't know what it is i
Starting point is 00:30:48 love calling people commies and stuff i throw commie jokes all the time in the blog so uh that that i that gave me a legit lol moment um that was that was that was what i really had i just that was awesome um vision declines food but he accepts a stick of chewing gum and i loved the way they showed us this he eats the gum he accidentally swallows it and then they cut to like the bewitched cartoon again and they show it's just like slowing all his gears down on the inside and he eventually shows up to the magic show he's basically like fucking wasted but before that happens while they're still at the fundraising meeting wanda's talking to dotty and she's like just let you know me and vision Vision, we mean no harm here.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And Dottie looks at her real serious, and she goes, I don't believe you. And then right as she says that, we hear radio wiring, kind of the music goes off, and we hear a voice go, Wanda, who's doing this to you? Who is doing this to you, Wanda? Are you okay? Who's doing this? And then right as that's coming to a crescendo. Dottie's glass shatters. She squeezes it so hard in her hand that it shatters, and we see blood, and it's red blood coming from her hand.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Once again, our boy BC, super producer BC, pointed out, is color, does that mean she's from the outside world? Does that mean, Dottie, and is that why you have to stay on her good side? Is she somehow the controller of all this in a weird way? You know, we don't know that yet. But it was definitely another one of those uneasy scenes it gave me the exact same feelings the first one did yep the help help me wanda or ronda on the radio we hear that going on um do we want to get into who that is on the radio like who do people think it is? Agent Will, right? He's from... From S.H.I.E.L.D.? Ant-Man?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah. So, it could be him. I also saw theories that the hand at the end of episode one, when they zoom out, you could see a hand, was Kat Denning's hand from Thor. You know, she's Jane's assistant. And she is in the trailer for the show.
Starting point is 00:32:44 So, I think she might be involved in some weird way as well i didn't even see that she was in the trailer for this until someone pointed that out but apparently she's coming back and she obviously studies like the weird stuff that jane was into and the extraterrestrial and you know stuff like that so it could definitely be agent woo i just don't know i'm not familiar enough with the voices and stuff like that that reminds me of like the the mando uh like boba fett walking up on fennec shan's body and i'm like i know it yeah i i've seen i i feel like i've seen enough people say it where i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:33:17 say it's like 80 percent yeah i agree probable that it's him i don't know if even it might have said it in like the close captioning you know woo or something like that um but i yeah it does feel very boba fetish that was the exact analogy i was gonna be fucking tv this is what tv is now it's like you're going on redboards you're having people i know like wave wave files and shit like that it's crazy um and we cut back to the magic show they're finally getting ready to go vision shows up he's super late like i said he could barely walk he's barely getting upstairs all his body's malfunctioning and uh it's just a very funny scene where he starts performing actual magic in front of everyone
Starting point is 00:33:55 trying to impress them with picking up a piano with one hand or flying and while he's doing all of this wanda is in the background trying to make sure that she's putting uh fake things in with her own magic so she's like oh he's on a wire flying and this piano this is just a cardboard thing and i love the guy being like that was my grandmother's piano it was so funny and uh it was a very strange atmosphere over this though because the whole fundraiser was for the children they kept saying for the the children. They just kept making this a big thing. And I think that's very important. We got a question about it later on that we'll get to.
Starting point is 00:34:30 But they win the talent show. It's a big win for them. They have Monica Rambeau eventually come out of the cabinet. And she's like, how did you do that? And they're like, mirrors. And everyone's like, is that how mirrors work? And I loved Catherine Hand had a funny scene during this too where she was like, how does anyone do this sober? Everyone's like, is that how mirrors work? And I loved, Catherine Hand had a funny scene during this too where she was like,
Starting point is 00:34:46 how does anyone do this sober? Yeah. Oh, man. No, the way they kind of, like you said, we had Wanda's powers in the first episode with the strings and she's just doing Scarlet Witch stuff. And then having Vision be Vision who was like,
Starting point is 00:35:01 the reason they had to nerf him in Infinity War is because he could have just probably killed all Thanos' goons by himself, right? So it was kind of funny to see him go through all that stuff. And let me say this, as a guy who wasn't really a Vision guy before this show, didn't really care about him at all. I like Vision now. I'm officially to the point where I like him. I think he's funny. I dig the actor too. Like I actually liked the actor. I liked that he answered that question about how vision has a dick and it changes density size.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's purple. Right. So I kind of liked that. He kind of rolls with the punches and he's Jarvis's voice, by the way, wrote this down. Fun fact. This is from a sure of 5,000 on the Marvel studios,
Starting point is 00:35:38 right? Aboard by appearing in iron man, iron man, three captain America, civil war, and now Wanda vision. Paul Bettany has been there to kick off each phase of the mcu wow that is a fun fact that is a fun fact that's amazing i never would
Starting point is 00:35:53 have thought he's also a guy from the star wars universe he's actually one of my favorite parts of solo which is a movie i don't even love much he plays dryden voss and he's got those cool veins that get like redder the more angry he gets oh yeah i remember i remember the vein guy i was like please don't tell me he's a guy that gave him the name solo like i don't know no that from my brain um that is yeah okay yeah he's like the bounty hunter that uh amelia clark worked for or not the bounty hunter the mob boss yeah the mob boss exactly um i also had completely forgot he was jarvis until i'd seen that fun fact what is this person talking about a sheriff 5000 you're way off no you're dead
Starting point is 00:36:30 on the bark there so the oh that was the other thing i wanted to ask did you ever swallow gum as a kid yeah it's it's such a weird feeling when you swallow gum i hate swallowing i was terrified i mean have we ever figured out it's not true right i mean i just know the digestion thing no no way but i definitely believed it there's definitely a point where like i swallowed gum i was like oh no i feel like that's something the yak is going to do at some point they're just going to make someone eat gum every single day for like a year like because that's something those sons of bitches are doing just see if like a huge bubble poop comes out of them in like seven years i'll say this i do remember you know in I do remember, you know, in high school, like gum is a big thing. Everyone's chewing gum and everyone's, oh, you're not allowed to chew gum. There were plenty of times where I
Starting point is 00:37:11 just swallowed my gum in high school. I was just like, oh boy, I'm going to get in trouble. And I would just swallow it. And then it'd be like, oh, I don't feel good. Yeah. It's so funny how it's like the forbidden thing. Like I would never chew gum on my own. I actually become a really big gum chewer. Like the last, I was huge in like 2007 like 2007-8 i got into this big gum kick and then i've gone back into it in the last year i think it's just all the stress from the quarantine i'm trying to just like chew my feelings instead of eat them or drink them and all that kind of i need to get back in the three i need to go heavier with the three cheetah ease my anxiety because i'm going through all this number one gum right here bob i don't think you talked about this orbit is my number one oh really i've always been a trident guy to be honest really a trident guy huh yeah i
Starting point is 00:37:50 am um i used to be winter fresh that was my number one it was like kfc's talked about some when winter first came out it was like the biggest fucking thing it was like oh my god the wrigglies are rolling this new thing it was this new flavor winter fresh winter mint whatever you want to call it um but the like i was never a juicy fruit guy don't mint all that's like oh i like juicy yeah my my mom was a big carefree which was like the sugar-free stuff but i'm orbit uh sweet mint and orbit winter i guess winter mint is there the two by far the best gums in the world i i'll go to war with these but you're just old school trident we're talking the little piece that's always been or you're the little like you're probably so young tridents by the
Starting point is 00:38:27 little pop out out of the blister pack is that your like go-to no i would say i would say like the old school trident but like spearmint not like the pink bubblegum flavor like i i like the minty trident yeah no i have bubblegums for kids let's be honest that's a bubble so but i love how that was the thing that kind of threw him off and i like i don't know like if you if you're taking this show for what it's worth those fun little anima like animated parts i thought that's like part of the charm of all this amidst all like the holy shit this is going to be something big down the road here which is another thing another little thing is uh paul i don't know is it paul betney am i saying yeah paul betney there was like someone complaining about like this show,
Starting point is 00:39:06 it makes no sense. And then this is from like a Twitter thread or Instagram or something. And he's like, just give it time, I think was his like word. So if he's saying that like online and putting his name on it, just give it time. I'm 100% all right with that. And I definitely think that it's not a show that we have to worry about like we did with Watchmen, where we were like, are we going to get about like we did with watchmen where we were like are we going to get more questions than answers at the end of this thing i think we're going to get all the answers by the end of it because they know their audience is kids at the end of the day this has to appeal to kids because it's marvel they want to sell some toys so they
Starting point is 00:39:37 could get weird with it but i think at the end of the day it's going to like it's all going to add up i think they got completely screwed by the pandemic and the way that everything shook out. The fact that this is, if this was sandwiched between a movie and another movie or two movies and another two movies or, you know, all the different TV shows, we'd be fine with it. It was just like our first drink of water from the desert.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And it's like- I don't even think it was supposed to be the first show, right? I think we were supposed to get the Captain America show first, the Winter Soldier and Falcon. And then the shooting got delayed because of corona and they were like done with this one already so this was even not even supposed to be the first show i don't think we're spin zoning the fuck out of this we should bob you're still somewhere in the disney world get us on the fucking payroll you son of a bitch
Starting point is 00:40:18 yeah really people think we're disney shills i mean this is why yeah that's exactly it um the the other two the other thing about just these shows in general is the long-ass credits. Like, I saw, like, 30-minute episodes. I know. I thought we were going to get, like, an after-credits scene or something. And that's the other thing is, like, it would be one thing if it was, like, all right, whatever. But since it is Marvel, of all things, I'm going through the credits both times, and I'm just wasting my time. Like, how do you have 10 minutes worth of credits for a 20 minute TV show? I don't, I don't know. I know some of the credits are for the fake show,
Starting point is 00:40:46 which I think I reserved in like pay homage to like some of the people or characters. It's like, they're not obviously real people for those shows. So there, there's some Easter eggs if you're into that kind of stuff. But this is the thing, the name at the end of the real credits where it says Kevin Feige, that's who we put our faith in. And that's the only thing I can say to anyone who is really on the fence to this if you've made it all the way this far in the podcast and you're still on the fence kevin feige should be the thing it's just like just see it out to the
Starting point is 00:41:12 end it's 20 minutes a day once a week we're gonna be losing football in a couple weeks like there's gonna be nothing going on so basketball hockey's back that's it spring training is still a little while away we had like 20 minutes we can get until we get in the base we do some three cheat everything's gonna be fine just believe in the trust the process trust the process and and load up on the three g this is fucking the three cheat television show basically uh we cut back to wandavision's residence and turns out she's fucking pregnant you look at her stomach and she's like oh my god look at this how did this happen i'm pregnant i got questions about this later on this is going to be an interesting one
Starting point is 00:41:48 they go outside and they see the sewer moving and they're like what the fuck and earlier in the episode i should know there was no sewer grate there zero sewer grate yeah so all of a sudden the sewer grate's moving and we see someone step out of it in a beekeeper outfit and there's bees all swarming around him and he looks at wanda very shadowy face we cannot see his face and she just has that same look in her face that she did at the dinner when mr hart was choking and she says no and then immediately we just rewind right back to that happy moment where they found out that they were pregnant and that's it it was just hey we're happy this is the perfect couple again and that was a big oh fuck moment to me because that more than anything that's confirmation like she's controlling this reality and she is seeing exactly
Starting point is 00:42:35 what she wants to see right now shit starts going wrong she starts sensing danger she's like nope i'm just i'm a happy wife with vision this is exactly what i've always wanted like we're a happy couple. Oh, Wanda, you're in for some heartbreak. And people have already tweeted me, like, how heartbreaking is it going to be when either Vision gets resurrected when this is all over and she sings him yakety yak and he doesn't recognize it, or when she hears yakety yak and Vision's just dead and he has no way of coming back.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Like, either way, it's going to be heartbreaking yeah like what did they even do with vision's body like do you recycle it do you fucking like it's it's probably have to right for the environment yeah imagine doing that you just throw it in the garbage and you know like let's be honest like bruce like a lot of these scientists guys they're probably pretty green and they're just like uh like that's our planet too wanda like i guess wanda doesn't want to recycle him but uh or like they could do something cool like if they made vision some sort of like a weapon for like or you know captain america she like they repurposed him for one of the new characters that is kind of fucked up though you're just grinding a fucking someone that was alive and
Starting point is 00:43:42 like someone's lover into another fucking weapon or something i know in the comics he was eventually resurrected and he was like all gray that was like and he kind of looked like he did when he like gets the mind stone pulled out of his head and he turns all gray he got resurrected like that in the comics and he was like a different version of himself so maybe they could go forward with that maybe they won't maybe they don't want to i know wanda is like elizabeth olsen is confirmed for dr strange the next dr strange movie they didn't say anything about paul bettany so that's still up in the air i think we're and we're clearly bettany stands here we're on bettany corner we are going hard so we welcome in with open arms even though we don't like like no resurrections we're a big fan of that but this is the thing comic book everyone fucking lives either they
Starting point is 00:44:23 either they will bring the character back bring the character comic book everyone fucking lives either they either they will bring the character back bring the character back as their own person or they will just change the entire timeline and bring everyone back from the dead this is the thing for anyone saying they don't want that that's just how fucking comic books work whether you like or not that's just how the game goes fucking they killed superman to sell some comic books then they brought him back to life that's just how it works um but i didn't think about that like of course tony cloud like tony stark had him uploading to the cloud they could probably get like vision basically like three seconds before
Starting point is 00:44:50 thanos ripped his fucking ripped the stone out so we could probably get like as much of it is but we won't get like you said the yakety yak and that'll be the thing that might like trigger her um the the bee thing the beekeeper found out i'm scared of beekeepers i learned that pretty quickly yeah what the fuck um a lot of people are saying this and i agree i first the first thing i thought of was like it was like a hazmat suit yeah maybe she had seen someone that has my suit and she kind of put the two together um and yeah the this is the thing that i think might be like the thing that makes me love the show the most when it's all said and done i just want to see scarlet witch just straight up on like i don't even care about hun hinge i just want to see her
Starting point is 00:45:28 using her powers like what she did to thanos and picked him apart like as i watched endgame a thousand times i really got to appreciate that once you kind of take every single scene and it's like holy shit and like the line like oh you will and her eyes turn red i can't wait to see her like when she says stop i I think we all have. Bob, what are the top five moments in your life that you wish you could have said stop and rewind? Let me hear them. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I have one that came to mind right away. The car accident that I got into this year when I totaled my mom's car. That was, you know, those moments where you get into like an accident or something wrong happens. And the immediate thought is that you go, I wish I could just go back in time a minute. I just wish I could go back in time a minute. And I just, none of this would have happened if I could just go back a minute.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And I actually thought about that when she said stop. I was like, I wish I could have done that when I got into that fucking car accident. There it is. I'm not telling you. You'll have to subscribe to the super premium version of my mom's base. That'll be for pay down the road. But I,
Starting point is 00:46:29 again, just seeing how she could just kind of, and I think, I hope we get all those little moments where she kind of just, you know, Scarlet, which is everything like, I hope those are the old shit.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Every single episode was like, so I was like, Oh, that's awesome. Like that's, I wish I could do that. I wish I could do that for like basically a lot of sports moments too if you want to get into it so uh very i thought that was very cool all right we've got some questions and theories but before we get into them let's just talk about
Starting point is 00:46:53 the commercial that was in this episode it was for strucker watches and we actually saw hydro logo and everything it was the same man and woman in the commercial so it could be her parents still and they say he'll make time for you struck her obviously the person who tortured her and her brother and age of ultron and all that if you're not familiar with wanda and vision story by the way they uploaded like recaps onto the disney plus feed where you could just watch they're like eight minute things and they recap their whole story leading up to this show so i would check those out if you haven't seen them already or if you haven't seen like the mcu or just want a refresher and we've got some theories so the really the main two things we're going to talk about mephisto who you kind of referenced before is the devil of the marvel
Starting point is 00:47:34 universe so when they said the devil you know it's not the only place the devil is the devil might be here and he was the one who put um in the comic books, he put children in Wanda's stomach. And then Agatha Harkness, who is, I think his wife, who's like a witch, was the one that broke the news to Wanda. Hey, your children are demon spawns, quite literally. And they were just twins. So Agatha Harkness, people believe, is our pal Agnes. Ag, Agatha, harkness ness it's her name and she's wearing the same brooch that the witch in the comics wears and she's wearing a witch hat in the trailer
Starting point is 00:48:13 everyone this is a pretty people think this is pretty uh dead set and this is a pretty accurate theory so if if this is true this show is about to take a fucking dark turn where Agnes is going to have to come over and be like, you have devil children? Yeah, it's not going to be fun. And I believe the name on the watch or the Strucker, that's the guy who was like experimented on Wanda, right? Yeah. So, I mean, talking demons, witches, and sick fucks from Hydra. Yeah, I think we're going to get really dark really quick. Your children are demons.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Like, I only have one demon child, and his name is Angel. I couldn't imagine having two demon children. Oh, my God. And they're actually the devil's children. I'm 95% sure they're my kids up there. There's a couple things about Angel. He kind of looks like the mailman a little bit. Other than that, I'm pretty sure they're my kids up there i'm there's there's a couple things like the mailman a little bit other than that i'm pretty sure they're my kids um that's yeah and again you're gonna have someone
Starting point is 00:49:10 a little unhinged like that and i think mephisto mephisto is that what you said yeah i think so um i could see like we had talked there was uh wanda's gonna be in dr strange right and that like demon guy named mephisto that is Doctor Strange's wheelhouse. I've never read a Doctor Strange book. I can tell you, that is Doctor Strange's fucking – that's a guy right there. So I think this is kind of where we're heading when it's all said and done. And I think when the big reveal comes in and all that stuff and when all the people who quit on this show after the first two episodes come back,
Starting point is 00:49:42 those will be the two uh big bads of the show yeah that's a great point you made there i didn't even think about that um mephisto like the fact that he could be a dr strange villain and we may not even get through him in this episode it might just be the setup you know this show might be the setup for how badass mephisto is and then building him up for that movie so that would be great i thought and i i said this uh but i think before we even were watching, I think it was when the trailer came out. I thought originally this was going to be how Wanda ends up becoming a villain.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And as much as I love her as a hero, I kind of want to see her become a villain because that's something that happens in the comic books where you have these kinds of people who kind of play on both sides, the light and the dark. And you don't really see it as much in the movies as much, unless it's like a very temporary thing.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I kind of would love to see her be a villain for like phase this phase. And then the next phase, she can become a hero again, or she's just this like complete unhinged, like supernova who they just, everyone has to watch out for because she'll just fuck shit up. So glad you just said that because our first question is from Matt. And he said,
Starting point is 00:50:38 is Wanda going to wind up being the bad guy here? And I think, so if I had to guess, I would guess no, but I think it would be an awesome setup if they somehow reveal to us that like wanda is fucking shit up in the real world and what we're seeing now is like what she's using to suppress all of that or she can't be controlled in the real world but i lean no because of the wanda who's doing this to you and they say who's
Starting point is 00:51:01 doing this to you to you they keep saying like who's doing this to you it makes me feel like she doesn't want this to be happening but it's just stuck in it because she's like hey this is you know my perfect world that i see vision here i have him back in my life so i'm sticking with it yeah i could see that too and it's like when uh after civil war where it's like the government's for these people against these people like it seems like she'll be on good people's side but this might be kind of like the breaking bad of wanda right yeah this is kind of how she broke bad and it's nothing a lot of it's not her fault like that's what was my favorite thing about like the best villains is when you find out the reason why they do what they do and you kind of can eat like again thanos the big purple guy who's causing all this stuff
Starting point is 00:51:40 probably got the ball rolling um i always find those kind of villains most fascinating and i'd love to see us being like wanda's our girl one is our girl and then we're like holy shit wanda just like killed a whole bunch of innocent people along the way and we're still riding with her because we remember her as like the badass chick that was in all the you know the older movies so i i kind of hope she does end up being the villain i'm not gonna lie i'd love to have something it would be a really cool twist like you said like the dark phoenix dark phoenix vibes there it would be very cool and it's like a little change of the uh like the outfit and stuff like that and then you start going like all those different kind of like villain like the hellfire club all those like i do think they're so like this mcu it's gonna be so
Starting point is 00:52:18 fucking good once they can actually start shooting it again and we're gonna have all these new characters all these new factions and i think there's a lot of cool ways and there's so much gray in the marvel universe that i'd love for them to really like because that's the most fun is the gray side that's the reason stone cold steve also works the one he's in 20s brown or walter white all those kind of people the wire all these different people in the wire they are all like different levels of gray and i think marvel marvel was very much good and evil in the in up to now. I think they can really be a little bit of both. I mean, even Tony Stark, that was kind of the fun thing about him. Stark Industries was like ruining tons of people's lives.
Starting point is 00:52:52 It's kind of like America, right? We're the most feared nation, most beloved nation, most hated nation, all those kind of things. I do think there's a lot to be said about that with these superheroes. I'm with you. So we got a ton of questions about the beekeeper suit. Everyone said, what's up with the beekeeper? What's up with the hazmat suit?
Starting point is 00:53:07 What could that be? And the most popular theory online right now is that the beekeeper suit may be somehow related to AIM, a.k.a. Advanced Idea Mechanics. That's not AOL Instant Messenger for you. Damn it. That was open news again. Welcome. I bet it was the old guy.
Starting point is 00:53:23 When I saw it at first, too, I thought the same thing. It was like, AIM? We we're doing A.M.? Awesome. That's the 90s episode, right? But this is an organization of researchers. Originally, I think they were in Hydra, and then they defected, who reject formal ideas of ethics and prize the pursuit of dangerous knowledge above all else. In other words, it's a secret society of mad scientists. And in the comics, they all wear bright yellow
Starting point is 00:53:45 hazmat suits that are constantly referred to as beekeepers could be could be something there okay okay i can get down with that if you take that beekeeper head off and it's the yellow guy from aim i would be set i wouldn't even need to watch another episode i'd say wanda vision is my favorite show of all time just for that fucking year. You've got mail. They hear the door closing. Yeah, Vision starts switching. Vision's like, you've got mail. You've got mail.
Starting point is 00:54:10 You've got mail. Andrew Hawkins says, how much control do you think Wanda has of what's going on? Are there real people stuck in the bubble with her? The real people one is tough because we kind of got those weird vibes with the blood, right. From Dottie. And we got the vibes with, um, the woman from captain Marvel, where she kind of seemed like she was maybe in on it more than anyone else. So I'm not sure how much control does Wanda have of what's going on? Clearly a lot based on the end of episode two,
Starting point is 00:54:41 the fact that she was able to just rewind everything. Oh. And at the end of episode two, everything came to color. We're going to 70s next week. That's right. Yep. The color, that was kind of a thing. And that was kind of that piggyback the baby, right? It was like, oh, the baby's here. Now we're all happy. Everything's good now. Okay. Going the opposite. If, forget about the AOL guy being my favorite, my favorite show ever. If Herbert is not real or a bad guy, this is my least favorite show ever i want herbert in my life the rest of the fucking mcu give that guy disney paychecks until the day i die i need more herbert in my life not less um herbert's like the perfect uh uh side character
Starting point is 00:55:16 for this like the mcu does side characters so well i think korg in ragnarok i think um wong and dr strange i think like all of these great side characters, Herbert could be Wanda Visions. He could be Visions' little side buddy. Herbert Vision. I mean, just like throw an episode out there where it's just Herbert Vision. I get down for that for sure.
Starting point is 00:55:34 There was a lot of theories about this too, which I think kind of, this is maybe how Wanda grew up seeing the West was, you know, from Sokovia. She saw like, she would watch I Love Lucy. Like, I feel like that's what they play. They probably play that now in sokovia czechoslovakia wherever the fuck it's just you're watching i love lucy be witched and all the old shows they're probably just getting to like who's the boss right now maybe full house is on over in the eastern part of the world who
Starting point is 00:55:58 don't have like uh access to 24 7 internet like we do so i could see that being this is her way of kind of coping with it the perfect family life she had the perfect thing with vision and like nope that giant purple motherfucker didn't rip his you know thing out of his head the the stone out of his head and we're perfectly happy together now we're gonna have babies together we love each other everything's good i think we all kind of like imagine everything is good in our lives especially after 2020 we don't want that nice little warm spot so i can kind of relate to you wanda do what you got to do girl oh my god yes people are saying do you think this is just 2020 depression kicking and her being like we got to escape from this i'm gonna create a reality using all my powers um the final question i got today i live and died with a fucking
Starting point is 00:56:38 fictional coach in ncaa 2014 he's now alive by the way we have our doug's is our real vision he came to life it's fucking incredible like it's very funny doug's vision someone's got to do like a drawing or a photoshop of him with like the color scheme of vision you know like that that maroon face and the the mind stone oh that would be fucking fun that's not even that much of a like stretch because it wasn't there didn't like the cartoon dogs have like a superhero cape for toledo because they were the flyers right yeah like this can be done the actual dugs might have a i wouldn't put it past that crazy motherfucker i love the guy he might have a vision costumes oh yeah it was uh you know that for halloween in 2019 or something like that we have talked about marvel
Starting point is 00:57:15 cards from the 90s i messaged him once and i was like bro did you ever collect like the marvel cards in the 90s and i don't think he was huge into them but he was like you know he's such a card aficionado that he's super ultra aware of them but he was like you know he's such a card aficionado that he's super ultra aware of them and he's like oh yeah this series was amazing and that series had the best artwork and all that i i'm gonna have to dive into the uh the archives here because i just did a cleanup of the attic a few years ago and of my parents attic and i think i have my entire book of it was either marvel or x-men the entire series of the card so that's gonna have to be the doug's den um episode we're gonna have to dive into that i like that all right the final question we got for this episode and if you guys want to send in questions every sunday we will be recording
Starting point is 00:57:54 this likely um next week there's a chance we might record it on friday or saturday depending on my schedule i don't know but going forward it'll be sundays so just check our twitters on sundays we'll always retweet it before we record. It's from Chris McKenzie. I love this question. I didn't really, like, and I feel foolish for not putting this together before he asked this question, but he said, do you think the talent show for the children was actually a ritual just to get Wanda pregnant?
Starting point is 00:58:17 I absolutely do. After he asked that question and they were repeating the for the children thing, it was kind of weird, and then immediately she's pregnant. I think you're onto something there chris mckenzie i think it was some sort of witch ritual to make her pregnant oh so wait like the the whole magic show and everything yeah or just everyone in like a circle and they're like chanting shit and whatever like that yeah okay i could i could see that now too yeah i'd I'd be fucking, like, at this point, I'm just jumping in two feet on both, like, on all these theories that I hear.
Starting point is 00:58:48 If they sound good, who's the guy saying it through the radio? You tell me Mephisto. Like, it'd be hilarious. I feel like if you put my trust in all the, like, other, like, hardcore Marvel fans, they're throwing out theories. I'm like, yeah, you're fucking on to that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:00 You guys nailed it. I would love to see, like, three episodes from now. It's like, nope, none of that was true at all. It was like Thanos is back somehow. It makes no sense that it was lazy riding from the jump. Again, no, I'm just kidding. We believe in Kevin Feige. So this is just going to be the way they're going to introduce it.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I think it would have been a lot different if it hadn't happened the way it did with the timeline and everything with COVID and all that stuff. So, yeah, that's the way she – so that timeline and everything with coven and all that stuff um so yeah if that's the way she so that would be how she was pregnant and i think in the books she had two kids but they're no one like it's not like big time characters like her brother was quicksilver it's not like anyone that i know you know what i mean cable is the son of cyclops and gene gray and shit like that this isn't any like i looked it up and it doesn't seem like they're anyone really nature along the way that uh you know this next phase is i feel like they could play a part in it but i don't think it's going to be like these monster things by the way another fun fact for you rob
Starting point is 00:59:53 you ready for this fun fact oh yeah this one came from this was reddit this came from uh ido ideas infographic this is an infographic 43 out of the 53 weeks of 2021 will have new marvel studios content released boom how does that make you guys out of the 52 it says 53 weeks so i guess there's like the there's an extra a couple days in the week but yeah 43 that's only 10 weeks without it and i would imagine that includes the first week of 2021 having no content right or maybe the first two weeks oh yeah came out on the 15th 15th so yeah technically so we got wandavision followed by falcon winter soldier followed by black widow loki shang chi what if miss marvel eternals hawkeye spider-man boom marvel studios 43 or 53 weeks so we got a shit ton of stuff coming on we could all go through
Starting point is 01:00:43 a few episodes we'll relive some fucking 50 60 70 shows we were probably too young for maybe the olds like me can really live through the 90 shows that we grew up on and then hopefully we get just a bunch of crazy marvel shit and wanted just doing crazy things and like this is the thing you can't as crazy as it is to like have old school 50 shows it's also a lot to just introduce a demon and a witch out of the blue too. So I think they're kind of like trying to slowly get this stuff into us without like being like, yeah, this guy's the devil. It's like, that's a lot for us to digest.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Even the viewers at home in Marvel who have seen some crazy shit happen. Yeah, absolutely. This has been fun. And like you said, we're going to be here for the 43 weeks of Marvel content in the basement for the shows, for the movies. We're going to recap it with all you guys.

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