My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 107 - WANDAVISION EPISODE 4 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: February 1, 2021

Robbie is back from Abu Dhabi, and about as jet-lagged as Vision is dead, but luckily he's got Clem to resurrect his body and carry him through this show, Wanda-style. Answers! Finally... 3Chi: Use c...ode MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.comYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I am here with my main man, Clem, the vision to my Wanda. Although, actually, no, it's actually like the opposite, because I'm still a little jet-lagged, so I feel like you're resurrecting my dead body to do this podcast right now. You are basically like forming back up from the snap,
Starting point is 00:00:23 but you're not all the way back. You still have some little dust, like your brain, Celeste, to come back in here, and everything else is there. you are basically like forming back up from the snap but you're not all the way back you still have some like little dust like your brain celestic i'm backing her and everything else is there i see bob on the screen but i know he's not working at full capacity which is a good thing because i feel like i actually have a good um understanding what's going on especially after the last episode but like some of those star wars ones we've done in the past where i'm like bob you gotta leave me we would be in trouble right now but But I think we're all right. We're good.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And Bob is back at least in body, if not in spirit so far. So I'm happy about that. You know what? This episode was a gift. It felt like a gift for me because I would not be able to pick apart the theories and the hexagons and everything like that with a normal WandaVision episode. So they gave us the side characters assemble episode. That's what I'm calling this. And they were just were just like listen this is exactly what's going on these characters are just as confused as you the whiteboard that agent woo had was just fantastic i mean they knew exactly think about when they filmed this so many months ago they knew what we
Starting point is 00:01:20 would be theorizing about by the time this episode came. With a hexagon thing on the whiteboard, everything they put there, it was like Easter eggs for us. So I loved that we got the straightforward episode this week. And we texted a little bit about it. We always, when we watch these episodes, before we do the podcast, try to avoid talking about it because we want our takes, our conversation to be fresh for the listeners. The thing that we said immediately was,
Starting point is 00:01:44 it is so impressive that you can take side characters straight from the original story of the show that we're all fascinated in and still make a good episode. I thought Watchmen did that better than any show I've ever seen with their black and white episode because that was maybe the best episode of the whole series. But this one, oh my God, it was great. I love this episode start to finish. I watched it three times. I love Agent Wu. I love Kat Denning's character. It was great.
Starting point is 00:02:10 We said last episode, business is about to pick up. Well, business isn't about to pick up. It is picked up and we are flying like my dog, Tony Stark, RIP, in his Iron Man suit. We are in the sky. And you know why everything is flying, Bob? Because what do we do? Hashtag trust the Feige. I did the clap like
Starting point is 00:02:25 the clap emojis because that's what i was throwing i feel kevin feige came through again i could tell by twitter all the people that were either on the fence with the show or all the way in all the people that were all the way in are now all the all the way in they're fucking like might as well be wearing 70s garb and become part of wandavision because they're part of the show now and i am so happy i'm so proud of us that we said from the first episode we're like we're in this makes no fucking sense right now but we you know we trust the foggy we trust kind of what Marvel has given us the last decade and it's I feel like it's already paying off I told my buddy that I told you about a couple episodes ago he's
Starting point is 00:03:01 like I'm out I'm 90% out I said I'll tell you to come back in i think we're at the point where we snapped back everyone that you know got out after the first two episodes you guys can come back enough puzzle pieces have been scattered you even see the puzzle pieces and the like you said the other characters are like why a sitcom on the on the whiteboard everything that we've been asking they know what all those fucking crazy youtube conspiracists are like trying to figure out they they know how to fuck with us and how we're like that's how long marvel's been doing this is they know how we're gonna think and it's all because of kevin feige robbie i've thought of a new shirt and i don't think this is a shirt anywhere else but i thought of one it's a nerdy
Starting point is 00:03:39 shirt so i don't know how much we'll sell. The Marvel logo. Yeah. And instead of Marvel, Feige. The exact font, just red background, Feige. Give me that. And I even thought of another one. Instead of Star Wars. I actually love that. Favreau Filoni. And you just put in the Star Wars font.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Boom. Two things, nerd heaven right there. Oh, man, that's good. Both of those are really good. Maybe the Favreau Filoni one, we wait till their next show. I think we got to get the merch team on the Feige one asap let us know in the basement let us know if you listen to this episode if you would get that if that is a shirt enticing to you man if you work bob eiger you can't sue us you can't sue us you can't no you can't sue i mean you can't sue a fan right that's
Starting point is 00:04:21 the rules we've been supporting this episode this fucking show since the beginning this confusing ass show we knew it was gonna pay off and this episode the most meta line of it all you said it is when jimmy we said you're telling me the universe created a sitcom starring two avengers it's like they fucking know what they're doing you think that they're just making this wacky show and it's not gonna hit like every bone that we ever wanted to hit in the marvel universe by the time we got to seeing visions, fucking carcass with the stone ripped out of his temple. Oh my God. That was the most disturbing thing.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Maybe we've ever seen in Marvel save for sneaky far from home. When we see Tony Stark's like dead body crawl out. That was unnecessary. They didn't need to do that to us. The wound was still fresh at that point too. The wound was still bob now this is the thing though you're the combat sports guy i am not isn't the temple the side of your head i think yeah yeah true yeah side of us jet lag jet lag we're dealing with jet lag bob guys so i am going i'm the captain now this ship's gonna go fucking it's gonna capsize very quickly but i'll try to keep us on track i'm not gonna'm the captain. Now this ship's going to go fucking, it's going to capsize very quickly, but I'll try to keep us on track.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I'm not going to be the captain. I'm assistant captain from here on out. Bob will get his three Chi in. We'll be fine and everything will be good. But, uh, Oh, Hey, speaking of three Chi, the last time we recorded this podcast, I was three Chi list in Abu Dhabi and I ended the podcast by saying, hopefully, you know, this is going to make sense by the time this comes out. Congratulations to Conor McGregor on that great win. Unfortunately, he didn't get that one. I can't believe that, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:53 we're kind of doing the recap. Now it feels like a year ago that the Conor McGregor fight happened to me, but man, that was rough. That kind of stunk tough loss, but honestly, I've been thinking about it. It was the easiest Conor McGregor loss to take by far because I like Dustin Poirier. How can you hate on a guy who just knocked out the sports biggest star and he's going to use the fame, the recognition,
Starting point is 00:06:14 the money he got from this fight to go help underprivileged children and do charity work for the rest of his life. American dude. Right? So it's like, hell yeah, he's got a hot sauce. I'm going to try the hot sauce. I said, that's only fair. He knocked out my guy. I got to buy a bottle of his hot sauce. And I'll have Chef Donnie. We're going to cook up something from his book too.
Starting point is 00:06:32 So we'll do a nice taste test. A little cross promotion there. If Conor was going to lose to anyone in the lightweight top 15, I would have picked Dustin Poirier. I would have picked him to be the guy. So I'm already over it. Conor has never lost a trilogy bout. So I'm not worried about the trilogy. We've got that under our belt. He's still zero and zero in those. So we're going to move on from that, but I'm back in the States.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I've got the three Chi and oh my God, I am loving the three cheese probably adding to my, I don't know, jet laggedness because, oh my God, every time I take this stuff, I just want to take a nap. I forgot how great the sleep is when you take a 3C gummy. Even Trent said it to me. He texted me the other night and said, can I have one of your 3C gummies? I said, absolutely. What was his number one thing, his number one compliment about it? The sleep that you get after you take one is just fantastic. Gives you all of the amazing effects of Delta 9 THC, which is found in marijuana, but it removes some of the anxiousness, some of the laziness, some of the amazing effects of delta 9 thc which is found in marijuana but it removes some of the anxiousness some of the laziness some of the mental fogginess from that it makes you more
Starting point is 00:07:30 clear-headed it's a more clear-headed buzz it will give you a buzz that will make you high this stuff is for real we got some tweets about it that made me laugh so much people were like i didn't believe in it i took three and then oh my god i was on the moon be careful guys use this stuff responsibly because you will be going to the pocket universe, as we say in WandaVision. This is the official show of 3G. I know this week we got a more straightforward one. I think we're going to the 80s next week.
Starting point is 00:07:54 We've seen some trailers and stuff that imply that we're going back to the wackiness. So stock up on your 3G. Go to 3G.com right now. Use the promo code MMB for My Mom's Basement and you will get 5% off your order. They even have an Incredible Hulk vape strain. So if you're a nerd like us, if you're My Mom's Basement listener,
Starting point is 00:08:12 maybe try that Incredible Hulk vape because that's the one that I get. That's the one that I like. Gummies, I like the Black Raspberry, the Comfortably Numb. Those are the ones that are going to get you nice and buzzed. And then when you go to sleep afterwards, oh, my God, you will be sleeping like a baby if you wear one of those woop bracelets it's going to say 100 recovery guarantee that medically you know well this is the funny thing is you're talking about trent sleeping and i don't know if
Starting point is 00:08:37 this is like just me thinking this but i feel like like a trent sleep like i give anything just like live in trent's brain during a sleep i think Trent's a good sound sleeper on a 3C. So 3C, if he's asking for the 3C to get some good sleep, that's the kind of sleep I want. So go with the 3C right there for that for sure. So before we get into WandaVision, we've got two things to talk about, Clem. The first of which I texted you and I said, I watched some movies this weekend that are classics.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Movies that my mom found out that I had never seen. I, I watched some movies this weekend that are classics. Movies that my mom found out that I had never seen. I went back to Jersey for the weekend. My mom said, wait, you've never seen these movies? You have to watch these. You would love them. This weekend for the very first time in my life, I watched I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared right now. Just for the record, I'm scared about what I'm about to find out.
Starting point is 00:09:20 What movies you hadn't seen before this. Because Back to the Future already fucked me up enough the first time. I'm sorry, Bob. All you. I watched Lethal Weapon and Lethal Weapon 2. Okay. Those are classics. Those are classics. They're fucking great. They're really good movies.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And let me say this. This is how it all came up. Alex Sulkin sometimes tweets, friend of the program, friend of the podcast, he tweets lists, like movie lists, top fives. And he'll tag me, Joey Molinaro, sometimes Jeff, everyone in these tweets. And he says, what are your top fives? And the other night he said, what are your favorite sequels?
Starting point is 00:09:53 And my mom, out of the blue, was like, Lethal Weapon 2 is a great one. I was like, she never, for reference, doesn't like action movies, doesn't like car chases, doesn't like any of that stuff. So I was like, what the fuck? I was like, I've never even seen Lethal Weapon 2. 2 she said have you seen the first one i was like no she's like oh we got to watch them this weekend so i was like all right listen if my mom is volunteering
Starting point is 00:10:13 to watch action movies i am in in and the thing that really sold me is that she said joe pesci was in too i love joe pesci so i'm like all right let's give these a watch last night we watched lethal weapon one loved it this afternoon we watched lethal weapon two these movies are so goddamn funny they're fun they're bright all of the scenes take place during the day which i was like this is so refreshing like it's not a brooding nighttime in the rain scene whatever like where you can't even see what's going on fucking fantastic movies you know if there's any young people in the basement like me, you haven't seen Lethal Weapon, you're kind of putting them off because you're like,
Starting point is 00:10:48 I get it, they're classics. I'll see them one day. These are really good movies. They hold up really well. There's not a lot of problematic shit in it. I was expecting like some R-bombs. You know, you watch old movies, some M-bombs even. None of that.
Starting point is 00:11:01 They were like very good. They held up well. Eddie recently watched die hard for the first time was before the christmas movies draft and he's like it was a good fucking movie and like that's the thing is back then i feel like in like those those that 80s run there were just some like the ones that you know from the 80s as the classics there's a reason why they hold up right and it's like i feel like when people watch rocky for the first time i mean that's 70s but it's like these movies have like a staying power and they have like uh you know they they
Starting point is 00:11:27 spawn off not only like trilogies of themselves but then copycats i feel like every other movie was like a lethal weapon you know rip off that was by far the craziest thing about it was i saw inspiration for so many movies in lethal weapon you know even in lethal weapon 2 when they're like oh my god there's the woman that we're tracking down isn't a woman at all she's a ship i'm like wasn't that the fucking thing in like casino royale or batman versus superman or one of those like there were so many scenes in it where i was like man that had to inspire such and such it was danny glover is steals the show in both of them i mean joe pesci's amazing in the second one, but Danny Glover is just, look,
Starting point is 00:12:05 what the fuck have I gotten myself into with Mel Gibson? Oh, it was fantastic. I love Danny Glover now. I'm like a stand for him. You have to go back and go through the whole catalog. I mean, he was too old for this shit back in the 80s. I know. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:17 That was another thing afterwards. When he kept saying over and over in Lethal Weapon 1, I'm too old for this shit. I'm too old for this. I'm too old for this. I was like, oh man, smith had to have seen that and in clerks he has dante repeat over and over i'm not even supposed to be here today not even supposed to be here today i'm not even supposed to be here today it's like he gave him a catchphrase i don't know if it's directly inspired
Starting point is 00:12:37 by lethal weapon but i'm sure lethal weapon inspired whatever that inspired whatever and then you know gets to that point i could definitely see that and i i it's been a while since i've seen lethal weapon one is it like the old typical my last day on the force or last week on this he about to retire too is that part of like how because i know he gets he gets partnered up with uh yeah whatever he gets partnered up with him he didn't want to work with him i don't know if it was his last day i didn't maybe i wasn't paying attention that much in the beginning but it was his birthday and it was like he everything was like it's on my birthday like i have to do all this it's amazing and it's like sort of it begins with jingle bell
Starting point is 00:13:12 rock and i was like man is lethal weapon a christmas is this a big thing and i texted my brother about it was like do people say that and he's like no not at all he's like it's much less christmasy than die hard and it was they referenced it a few times. But another thing, the first shot in Lethal Weapon 1, tits. Just a big, like, literally, they zoom in on a set of tits. I was just like, oh, my God, Mom, what are we getting into here? I mean, just a little gratuitous 80s action, you know, independent of the guns. Oh, yeah, the second shot is a couple lines of coke. It is as 80s as it gets.
Starting point is 00:13:46 It's raw. Just think about the 80s. Like you said, you usually have the gutters with the smoke billowing out. And then just straight explicit contact. In Dire, they just have the tits pop out as they're having sex on the desk. It was almost like prerequisites. You want to get approved by the studio and get that R rating, you just got to throw a couple tits in there, make everyone happy.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah. Now that I think about it, I think I'm thinking of McBain which was a simpsons um like it was kind of like a lethal weapon for the simpsons and that's the guy you know it's my last it's my last day on the force and like i think it was like uh the name of his boat was like gonna live forever or something like that because it became such a it's such a trope of the 80s movies and stuff like that it was the guy's last day or he's getting too old all that kind of stuff so oh i'm happy bob fox is now in the leaf and now you have to go to three and then four i don't even know is there five now i remember there was all the i then there was always sunny did the one where they made another lethal weapon which is quite bob oh you have a
Starting point is 00:14:37 lot you wow i gotta dive deep i've heard three and four aren't great everyone online seems to say that like one and two are classics, three and four. I would agree, but I'll say as a, as die hard, which is my favorite movie ever and die with a vengeance, which is probably like top 10 for me. You will have like, there's the drop off for me in four and then it goes off a cliff in five. I don't think the drop off is as pronounced at least in three from what I remember.
Starting point is 00:15:03 All right. I'll definitely check it out i mean like i said i'm a danny glover stan at this point his performances in the first two movies i was like laughing my ass off and we're gonna have to do you're gonna have to watch the at least the always sunny remake oh that's making a five or whatever it's preposterous it is so fucking and anyone who's seen it is just nodding their head laughing right now because it is hilarious so another thing i have to bring up and i tweeted this and i kind of left one part of it It is so fucking, and anyone who's seen it is just nodding their head laughing right now because it is hilarious. So another thing I have to bring up, and I tweeted this, and I kind of left one part of it out to surprise you on the podcast with it. Westview is where this is all taking place, WandaVision, right?
Starting point is 00:15:37 And it's Westview, New Jersey. As a guy that grew up in New Jersey myself, I thought, I've never heard of Westview, but hell, maybe it's an actual small town in South Jersey. And maybe, you know, Marvel references the real world. Whereas DC doesn't, it's Gotham City. Marvel's got New York City, New Jersey, whatever. So I Google it, Westview. And it turns out that Westview is the old railroad stop name for Richfield Park, New Jersey. Richfield Park, New Jersey is one town over. It's where I went to high school.
Starting point is 00:16:02 It's where I worked at the movies. It's where I grew up, basically. It is where all my friends lived when i was growing up so i'm thinking oh my fucking god can you believe this westview is richfield park what if i grew up in a fucking something created by wanda fucking scarlet witch over here then i tweeted that and one of my former teachers responded, and he hit me up. And he said, oh, my God, you're asking if we live in a world created by Scarlet Witch. Clem, do you want to know what my high school fucking mascot was? What was it?
Starting point is 00:16:36 We were the Richfield Park Scarlets. Oh, my God. Bob, this is getting fucking creepy now. What the fuck? Am I living in real world? Now I thought immediately, what's the main thing in a pocket universe in the truman show in wandavision they can't leave that's the thing you can't leave the island you can't leave the town and i'm thinking oh no i'm fine i'm safe i just went to fucking abu dhabi other side of the world but then i thought did i
Starting point is 00:16:57 i didn't even spend any time outside i spent less than 10 minutes outside the whole trip what if they took me up in a plane, did circles for 18 hours, fucking landed? They said, I'm going to the North Pole to distract me. And then they landed back in Jersey just when they redid the set. Bob, I've had this. Am I actually flying to another place? And is it actually another place? Or did they just keep me up in the air?
Starting point is 00:17:20 Good luck, my friend. And your jet lag too. You're not coming back out of this spiral anytime soon that's like did you like change decades every like day where one day it was the 50s and it was the 60s and like people say i'm an old soul i don't know what if i don't remember that what if i don't remember it what if that's how i'm until all the 70s rock and stuff and it just it's wiped from my brain it's like how they don't remember their anniversary and they're like oh that's weird but they don't really think about it and then someone introduced weed to me because they were like he's fucking catching on we gotta disable this guy's memory
Starting point is 00:17:51 somehow mama now like did mama fox like look at pictures of her when she was pregnant with you like was it like one day it was a month and the next day it was three months i think you were born by someone who she had never met was the one pushing like helping her push the baby up because i'm telling you, I'm getting fucking freaked out by this Scarlet's thing. Are you a sport agent trying to clue me into this Clem? I don't, I maybe I've been throwing you off with the whole, I love Thanos thing to, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:16 Thanos like hurt one of my relatives. You're trying to clue me into it. Just keep saying the name over and over again. What did you say? Did say thanos i can't say it like she does she hits that slovakian accent did i say slovakian slovakian slovakian slovakian oh my god how about i was on the dozen this week and we had to guess like countries that were around that area. I threw out Amsterdam. I was getting roasted for that one. They were like, it's not even close, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:52 You should have said Sokovia just for, like, the reaction of everybody. Yeah, true. And another thing, before we finally get into WandaVision, I tweeted you, and I said, can't we kind of owe it to these characters? Let's watch Age of Ultronron let's talk about it i hadn't seen it in years the last time i saw age of ultron i think i had only seen it twice i saw it in theaters i remember being kind of disappointed by it because i thought it was going to be like the empire strikes back of the marvel universe i kind of thought it was going to be like infinity war and tone and then it wasn't really it felt like a lot of setup and then the moments that we
Starting point is 00:19:25 got at the end where they would you know unite the avengers or anything kind of felt a little cheap to me because they had spent the whole movie setting things up and not really building those moments and i was kind of disheartened by it i think when i ranked the marvel movies for barstool i kind of said the jeff d low idea is you rank movies for what they're trying to be and i said for this trying to be an avengers movie this might be dead last in my rankings so i said i owe it to these characters to give it a rewatch i wanted a refresher on vision i wanted a refresher on wanda and i did rewatch it you did as well i would love to know what you thought of it originally when it came out and what you thought on the rewatch. So, first of all, it's hilarious that you tweeted that and said, Hey,
Starting point is 00:20:07 we got to rewatch, you know, Avengers 2, Age of Ultron. And I had two days earlier, completely independent of you tweeting that watched it myself because of the same thing. I was like, I got to give these characters, I got to like kind of cause they both came into our lives in the same movie which is very rare which i mean i don't know if that was on purpose i mean there's been i don't know i feel like so much stuff was planned out of marvel but some of it might have just been coincidence and then on disney plus i don't know if you noticed it they have a new series called marvel legends did you see that yeah it's like little recaps of their
Starting point is 00:20:40 career thus far right yeah it's like six to seven minute snippets and i imagine they're gonna have one for winter soldier and falcon and as you know each series comes out because the only two that are out there right now for anyone that hasn't seen it it's wanda and vision are the two people and it's like a six minute kind of highlight reel from everything they're in starting obviously with age of ultron in their case and it goes all the way to infinity war or end game depending on how how long they made it for. So I watched it on my own and I was like, God damn it, I'm going to have to do it.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I thought we were doing a commentary because then the stoolies start, oh, I love these commentaries. And I'm like, I'm going to have to watch this movie for the second time in a week. When I have no, it took me three days to watch this movie on my own with the kids running around. I don't want to watch this.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Turn on Bluey, turn on, you know, Blaze and the Monster Machines, all the nonsense I have to deal with as a father. I was like, oh my God, I'm going don't want to watch this. Turn on Bluey, turn on, you know, uh, blazing the monster machines, all the nonsense I have to deal with as a father. I was like, Oh my God, I'm going to have to rewatch this a second time with, for the commentary. So I'm happy that we both are just going to do our little movie reports on it now. Um, I was like you, I was disappointed with it. I also wasn't as much into the Marvel stuff cause this was around the time, you know, Sienna was born and just getting to the movies was was tough enough uh i had it
Starting point is 00:21:49 pretty low on my list i still think for an avengers movie if you take the first avengers infinity war and end game i think it's clearly the fourth best of the of the four but it's much better i it's much better because it did a lot of setup. There are some good action parts. Some of the gauntlet foreshadowing where they show the fucking gauntlet in the sky with all the infinity stones. There's some really cool stuff that they allude to some stuff that comes in the future.
Starting point is 00:22:18 It obviously does a ton of setup, which I feel like that was a big part for the next phase. But it just feels like there's something missing. I don't know what it is. I'm with you. It just feels like something's missing. Ultron, I don't love Ultron as a villain.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And this was in the time where I thought a lot of the Marvel villains were kind of missing something. And that's why I think I love Thanos because he was everything I wanted in a villain and more. And I like Ultron because he has a little bit of that evil Tony Stark in him, obviously, because Tony helped create him. But it's just something missing. Maybe it's just robot villains don't do it for me either. You know what I mean? Like there's just something missing. Even when a robot as like advances Ultron still is missing something.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And then even Wanda and Quicksilver, it's like Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. Like I didn't really care about Quicksilver. And Wanda isn't nearly as cool as she is the more recent parts of marvel i didn't think her powers were as cool i thought you know they could have made her a little stronger i think it's civil war that wanda was in ultron as a bad guy it would have been a little more interesting i agree watching it back wanda and not only in the fact that she's basically like a villain she she's on their side with Quicksilver, she's almost like a different character.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And she's nowhere near as interesting as she is now, like you said. It kind of had the same issues that I thought it did, in that I thought the whole movie was a lot of setup. Let's tease the future. Let's tease Endgame, which you didn't even realize they were teasing at the time. That was cool to look back on some of those Easter eggs, some of those teasers. I love that scene where they're all trying to pick up the hammer still like just seeing the avengers drunk partying that's great the issues weren't as bad as i thought they were but they
Starting point is 00:23:53 were still there in that like the moments didn't feel earned to me because you spent so much of it setting the movie up and i think it would have like marvel would have benefited from not calling it an avengers movie or not doing an Avengers movie at that point. And doing a movie more like Civil War. Like give Iron Man a movie and call it Iron Man Age of Ultron and involve all the Avengers. You can do the final battle at the end. They did, you know, those big battles in Civil War. But not setting the expectations of this is an Avengers movie.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I still feel like they almost wasted that title on it. And it's a fine movie. It's not a bad movie by any means. It's a movie that I think after having rewatched it now, it'll work its way into my rewatch rotation a little bit more. Ultron still don't love how much he joked. I loved that he had the wise-ass Tony Stark in him, but he felt so jokey.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Like every scene he had to work in a joke, and I was like, man, I thought he was going to be badass. Like when he starts singing the no strings on me, that's scary. He never got that scary again in the movie, though. So I thought it was definitely not as bad as I thought it was, and I don't think I would put it dead last in my rankings. I think that belongs more to like an iron man 3 an incredible hulk people say thor 2 i like thor 2 better than thor 1 i would put thor 1 really
Starting point is 00:25:10 really low on my rankings just because i'm so fucking bored every time i watch it but yeah that's kind of our age of ultron recap review i'm glad i re-watched i will say yes i'm glad i re-watched it i it's so it's it's clear it's still my fourth avengers i still have to i have to re-watch the first avengers again um because maybe it's so it's, it's clear. It's still my fourth Avengers. I still have to, I have to rewatch the first Avengers again. Cause maybe it's not as high as I remember, but I think it will still hit the point. Cause I remember like it was such a, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:32 it seemed like such a crazy thing to have all these heroes come together for a movie the way that they did it. And they, they nailed it, which is like something DC can't even get that done. Right. Yeah. With all their tries.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And they can't even get like age of Ultron, right? Like age of Ultron would be a smash hit. If they could ever even get like age of ultron right like age of ultron would be a smash hit for dc if they could ever even get an age of ultron out of it i i make this promise to the listeners because i know i had a bunch of them who would chirp at me when i would uh slander age of ultron there's no more slandering major age of ultron out of this mouth if it's an iron man it's it's a completely different thing but uh again you put the avengers name on it and even to this day with those other three movies, it really does kind of stick out as like the weak link.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But it's Pride, like a couple, it's not Guardians tier for me, but maybe like a tier or two below that, which is pretty fucking good. And like you said, and even Claw, we get Claw in there. You see how his hand gets chopped off. There's a lot of Wakanda. There's a couple of Wakanda references, which I also watch this in closed captioning, so I got to pick up a lot more because I'm an old man. So there is a lot of shit in there that sets up a ton for, obviously,
Starting point is 00:26:33 all the stuff we've learned along the way. So if anyone else is out there that didn't like it, slanders it, whatever. Give it another shot. I'm not going to back down from a lot of the things I said about it because I'm stubborn. But no more slander. That's a promise. Thumbs I said about it because I'm stubborn, but no more slander. That's a promise. Thumbs up. And it gave us this show. Basically we got WandaVision. Yeah. So I'll join you in that promise. No more slander out of this mouth. Ready to talk about WandaVision? Let's get some WandaVision into us. So we started this week off, God, on a chaotic
Starting point is 00:27:01 note, really. We see someone kind of particles fading into someone, and it took me a second to realize what was going on. But once I did, I was like, oh my God, are we seeing people reform from the snap? And we are. This is exactly what we're seeing in a hospital of all places. They're showing us a very cool scenario. We only saw a little bit of the blip,
Starting point is 00:27:23 people coming back in Spider-man far from home in that intro video we saw like the band coming onto uh the the gym floor like while a basketball game was going on and weird stuff like that i love that they show us this because it's what we would see in a comic book i think it's the wacky stuff that they would be able to waste a panel on a whole page would probably be the weird scenarios in which people were coming back, right? So we see, this is Monica Rambeau coming back, not Maria Rambeau. She was there with her mother in the hospital
Starting point is 00:27:52 five years ago when the snap happened. And she's looking for her mother. She's like, where's my mom? Where's my mom? She sees one of the nurses that was helping her who was stunned to see Monica. She's like, where have you been? And she said, I'm looking for have you been and she said i'm looking
Starting point is 00:28:05 for my mom and she said sweetie your mom died three years ago and that was two years after you disappeared so if you didn't know what was going on now you really should be clued in this is the blip as they call it in the mcu just a crazy almost um like it's a harsh harsh note to start the episode on even though in our minds it's a great moment harsh note to start the episode on, even though in our minds, it's a great moment for humanity, great moment for the world. They paint it in a different way. It was just so awesome the way that they, because I had no idea either.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You'd think I've been obsessed with everything, you know, Infinity War and Endgame ever since Infinity War came out. And I still had no idea what was happening as she was pouring back together. They even had like kind of, which I didn't realize at the time, was you hear like her childhood, you hear Captain Marvel Marvel talking so it's obviously going back to that and if you come back together you piece back together I don't
Starting point is 00:28:52 know what the fuck that experience is like we have a little bit better idea I love the chaos uh R.I.P. my dog our dog Monica Rambeau that's tough um and also shout out the Avengers because as this is all going on they're fighting motherfucking Thanos at at the avengers hq and my dog tony stark takes him because that's all going down at the same time right this is after all steps back and literally like right at the same moment yeah the status ship shoots out and you know blasted to smithereens i wonder what the news was like what was what was twitter like in the mcu at this moment like did people know the avengers battle was happening? Could they see it from far enough away?
Starting point is 00:29:27 Or was it all like, oh my God, fucking everyone's coming back. What the fuck is happening? And the Avengers are getting into a battle. Oh my God, did they do this? What was that like? Give us a movie. It's a computer screen and you let us see everyone's Twitter feed. Yeah, because think about it.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I couldn't go on Twitter without GameStop popping up in my feed it was just non-stop stock stuff which is like my nightmare because i don't know anything with the stock market i'm like all i know is everyone's apparently getting rich i'm not and i was like and i can't just go on twitter and like let my brain just have fun and it was a very tough time but like if during the uh the second snap it must have just been incredible and like imagine you're someone your account's been dead for five years and then robbie fox is just like hey guys what the fuck was that it's like robbie's alive yes oh my god like who had the best return tweet that would be amazing yeah that would be some good shit yeah it would be probably some some big time blue check mark like some big celebrity
Starting point is 00:30:17 would hit something fucking dave bad news for the check marks i woke up um and then like yeah but i think because obviously the head avengers hq is kind of in like the middle it's like upstate new york i think it's like hudson valley which i don't know how many people get that you know live in the area but um i feel like hudson valley even if someone was like holy shit there's a spaceship that's raining fire like outside my house right now that is like one tweet that's not getting retweeted that's not getting picked up you're gonna have to show like pictures and videos but they're they're just gonna be showing videos of like again like kim kardashian or whoever the fucking celebrity is in 2020 the hottest tiktok star in the world in 2023 so uh that's actually a good question did you notice that in the um in sword they had like it looked like a parade on the
Starting point is 00:31:04 news station it was oh really they were having like a parade they had like it looked like a parade on the news station it was oh really they were having like a parade for people returning it looked like there was some sort of break because it's just everyone's so happy that it came back and it's it's kind of like what it was when tony's given like the message after he dies i feel like that's the kind of scene it is but oh man i'd love to see a twitter stream someone has to put that together that would be absolutely hilarious and i also marvel uh bobby bobby eiger or whoever whoever's listening hopefully you're not doing us i need at least two more snap scenes we had the spider-man one but that was an mcu so that wasn't done with all
Starting point is 00:31:35 and this was good but i need to have at least like a couple of characters that i know more about care more about just give me like i feel like we're due like a, we're owed maybe a Guardians one, or just even if it's like someone that is in like a new character that we haven't met yet, that's going to be, you know, part of the Fantastic Four, X-Men, whatever. I don't know how it could be done. I need at least two more snapback scenes after this one.
Starting point is 00:31:57 That's what I've learned. I think we're going to get them. There was a tease on Twitter. I forget who said it, but they said if you enjoyed that intro scene, you're really going to like Falcon and Winter Soldier. then people started thinking they were like oh wait both of them got snapped so there's probably gonna be at least discussion in that show of like hey that was fucking weird wasn't it when we just disappeared for five years imagine we go to they go to wakanda
Starting point is 00:32:18 i got goosebumps thinking about go to wakanda you get to see like everyone that was there for the most part like obviously you can't do black pan unless it's already been you know filmed obviously man that would be crazy that would be sick and then you see like um does one come out of wakanda with them no he was watching the sanctuary he's like i'm gonna go watch the sanctuary and then you never see him again so i guess you know someone probably just blew a portal up there whoever did did the portal there, obviously Strange was in Titan. So I can't wait to see just how they're like fucking Black Panther. You have Scarlet Witch coming back, right? All these new people coming back from the snap.
Starting point is 00:32:54 The fucking armies, the literal army of people that are there. And then they're going through the portal for the Thanos shit. I just got excited for it. I wonder if we're going to see Scarlet Witch coming back from the snap and not wanting to come back. Because remember when she gets snapped away, she has that moment where she looks up almost like, fucking good, take me. I just had to murder the guy that I love.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I wonder if they'll show that in this show. Because if you want to show some trauma, God, that would be a good way to display it. You know what we're going to get from Scarlet Witch? We're going to get the LeBron face. Youbron meme and this because the celtics where he just dialed in and ready she's like open the portal i'm gonna go kill this purple motherfucker myself yeah absolutely all right and then when we come back like you said she goes into sword this is three weeks later they say so this is kind of i guess when wandavision is happening it's like three weeks after the snap which which is pretty fucking recent.
Starting point is 00:33:46 She goes back to SWORD. They say, whoa, you're the first one to report back. We're not surprised. Like, you know, you take after your mother. We see that the program was kind of founded after her. Her mother's now passed away at this point from Captain Marvel. So it's cool to see that they give that character kind of a reputation. And it is a theme in this episode.
Starting point is 00:34:03 They give the side characters a lot of shine so they break down what's happening they say we got a missing person in west view or there's they should be in witness protection and when she shows up she's greeted by agent woo who hits the card trick everyone was tweeting us about it they were like you better fucking mention that he hits that card trick this is a card trick that uh scott lang performs after he had been locked up on house arrest and agent was like how'd you do that and ant-man and he finally does it the subtlety of that is why you trust in feige that's why we trust the feige trust the feige i mean this this episode was like fucking fan service up the ass for all everyone that paid attention to marvel over the last few years if endgame was the big scale version of it if that's the macroeconomics version of it this is the fucking micro they did it for all these little
Starting point is 00:34:49 characters another one they brought back kat denning's character what's her name in and uh the show i'm blanking on darcy fucking who would have ever thought that she's coming back you know what really opened my mind to anything can happen though is when they brought back red skull in infinity war like i never ever ever they brought back red skull in infinity war like i never ever ever would have thought red skull was coming back because what a random character that and even his assistant guy in uh the winter soldier z uh not zemo um the guy on the screen you know who i'm talking about yeah i know what you're talking about yep like the fact that they care about these little characters it's another thing that we texted about briefly they're building a universe in the coolest of ways it's like it feels like a comic book
Starting point is 00:35:30 universe that's exactly how i was gonna say because it would be like someone you see in the panel you're like oh shit she's back again like darcy you know and and she plays that role really well she plays a comic book character in real life i think that's just how cat denning acts like she's an actress too but that's just her like her vibe and she just nails that vibe just like woo does i guess right so um yeah i'm thrilled it's because the universe you could have the big things hit you have the little things hit we have it all hit that's when you get kind of that's the reason why we are where we are right now we trust the fight because everything is just clicking on all cylinders and then when you actually get those little easter eggs and you
Starting point is 00:36:09 open the easter eggs and it's not fucking an empty egg or it's not candy from last year it's fucking nice little the little cadbury robin eggs those are my favorite all bob i love those little robin eggs so good with like the kind of powdery shell you're talking about yeah oh yeah the best those are the best those are the ones that i tell my mom like after easter stock up because those are my favorites it'll be on sale they send rambo out to check out the bubble this is where she meets woo and he's like be careful there's fucking two cops there that are acting very strange they're saying this town doesn't exist she goes up to the bubble and it's the the wall that we kind of saw her get thrown out of in the last episode very much uh annihilation vibes if you've seen that movie there's the wall that we kind of saw her get thrown out of in the last episode. Very much Annihilation vibes.
Starting point is 00:36:47 If you've seen that movie, there's the shimmer with Natalie Portman. Reminded me of that. And she touches it. Well, she sends the helicopter in first, which we get clued in like, oh, shit. Okay. This is the helicopter that they found in the show. Sends the helicopter and it disappears. And then she gets sucked in herself.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Now, Wu goes back this is when they bring darcy in who's a doctor at this point i don't know if she was a doctor in the thor movies but they said dr darcy and she starts monitoring the frequencies coming out of the bubble and she says that there's a broadcast frequency she's like get me an old school tv and not a flat screen they get her one and we see the sitcom now i mentioned darcy in episode one because i saw on reddit theories that the hand that they zoomed out on they were like that looks like fucking cat dadding's hand that is officially the spotting the boba fett noise of the s because whoever did that holy shit they show us that exact shot in this and they show us a lot of the teasing you
Starting point is 00:37:43 know they showed the beekeeper that was just a sword agent which another thing we speculated on in this show maybe it just changed when he went in there um they show us all of those moments from a different perspective we think this is the villain coming in to ruin things for wanda no it's people trying to save wanda from what's going on because they realize she's creating a universe with a fucking dead husband yeah it was um it was really fucking cool and whoever nailed that uh that cat denning's like i hope it was like through like re-watching i hope it's not some sick fuck who like just knows what every part of every celebrity looks like like those are the people that are going on we're not shaming army hammer on his bernie on his burner account he's like i've wanted to eat that hand for years
Starting point is 00:38:23 those are the people that get their only fan foot subscriptions maybe there's hand subscriptions for all i know like if that's your if that's what gets you going god bless you but the the police thing was was was strange too but i guess it's just like whatever spell she had whatever spell she has gulping or whatever she had cast she basically fucked up the minds of everyone in that radius too so they're not going down that road which i guess makes sense i mean you you don't even remember you know your high school you were the scarlet so you fucking you were in you were in the race uh the blast radius and all that kind of stuff didn't you think that case for the drone was a little excessive i mean i'm sure that drone's like a hundred thousand dollar drone it was like
Starting point is 00:39:01 fucking gigantic ass fucking stainless steel briefcase i think that was a little i thought she was gonna break out a bazooka or something like a thing that rips a portal in the universe or something no it was just a fucking little toy helicopter a little drone and it changed i like that they showed later on they were like why did it change and they're like i don't know maybe that's just the aesthetic of the episode like we mentioned earlier they say there's just a sitcom, like the universe has created a sitcom with two Avengers. They do not know what's going on. I mean, we have hints of it really,
Starting point is 00:39:32 but we know Wanda's probably the one controlling it. We know it's, or at least she's loving it. I think there's still the chance, they try to lead us in this episode to the direction that maybe Wanda's a villain, maybe she's the one trapping everyone, because that's another big part. Everyone in this town is trapped and playing roles they're like Herb is so-and-so uh Geraldine is so-and-so obviously Monica Rambeau um Dottie is so-and-so
Starting point is 00:39:56 so they're all being cast quote-unquote to play these roles in Wanda's life could this be someone doing this to Wanda and Wanda's just loving it because it's her ideal world could be wanted doing to herself to hide herself from the trauma that is still yet to be seen the one person they could not spot down was of course agnes this was probably the main easter egg i saw all over reddit all over twitter because they even put out a trailer the night before that revealed this and i didn't watch it the night before we also got questions about this they were like how do you feel about them putting out mid-season trailers mid-week trailers at this point i hate it if you're trying to get the people that aren't in in on the show just release the trailer like the day the episode comes out of the day after
Starting point is 00:40:36 because then at least you're not screwing the hardcore fans who like to go without getting spoiled i haven't even i didn't even know there was a like a midweek or next episode trailer until i saw some of the twitter questions i haven't seen them i don't know where they are i'm such an old person are they on like disney plus are they on youtube i don't even know they keep tweeting them they just keep tweeting oh really i keep seeing them on my feed and i think the one in the trailer like it it basically revealed this week that we were getting a monica rambeau episode and it was going to stray from the story it's like i don't want to know that and at 24 hours before the episode comes out just let me watch it yeah at this point that's kind of the the nicest thing about wandavision is that you don't know what's
Starting point is 00:41:13 coming next and um again maybe you could have done that for the first the first two episodes having a full trailer for the season i'd be fine with to know that i'm not just going to watch black and white all season because i might have been one of those people to bail if i thought it was gonna to be a full, you know, series worth of black and whites. But actually, no, that's not true. Trustify me. But I, I could, I don't like that kind of stuff. I don't even like going out the, the previously on, cause then the way, especially like, again, I've said this a million times, but game of Thrones, once they had like so much content to build off of once the previous year on, if they touched on something from like season two, that was your season six,
Starting point is 00:41:46 you're like, Oh, well now I know exactly that that's getting brought back. I want that to come naturally on the screen and my brain to process it instead of being like, all right, I know this guy's coming back from the dead or this person that I haven't thought of in,
Starting point is 00:41:57 you know, years is coming back. So I, I avoid those trailers like the plague. I also love how the cord that the beekeeper, it becomes like a jump rope. Like it becomes all 70 shit. I hadn't thought of that.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Those kinds of jump ropes that they would always chip and then they would like hit you and you'd be like, oh my God, this is fucking sharp. Like I hadn't thought of those since I was in gym class. Yeah, gym class. You know what I associate with those jump ropes is those goddamn scooters that you sit and you would just run over your fingers.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah, it's the worst. worst the absolute worst and that and those those mats those are the three things that was like every gym teacher's startup package it was those starter those three dodgeballs a good parachute i love the parachute classic right when you're you're a younger kid that's not like you know middle school that's more elementary but the parachute was classic where do we go wrong as people like when did when did we stop using parachutes like i'd fuck with the power like if my friends all got together with you're not even with kids just like i'll go to barstool let's just get a parachute for the office start every day at barstool with a nice little parachute everyone gets a run in the middle get to run across and then let's start the day team that's that's the good way to get it going instead we just sit at the desk all quietly
Starting point is 00:43:09 and just scrolling on twitter through all the vendors wanda's basically created herself a nice little parachute i think we should let her do it i'm in i'm gonna start committing to the city just for our parachute mornings um i wrote this down too agent franklin is the name of the b guy they say it a few times i don't know if it's going to be important or not i don't know if there's anyone in the mcu that's like a franklin that could come back as the guy but we don't know what happens to agent franklin she rewinds the show and then he's gone i think yeah we don't see him again so i i don't feel good about what's happening to agent franklin like you said no agnes on the board i mean at this point let's just fucking call it Agatha Harkness, right?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Is that who they're saying she is? And I think someone said that her anniversary was the same day as the Salem witch trials in 1672. So the brooch with the thing that the witch wear. You see her on the Halloween episode with the witch hat, definitely. Yep, yep, yep. I think that's got to be confirmed. And then at that point, it's like if they're bringing in yep i think that's got to be confirmed and
Starting point is 00:44:05 then at that point it's like if they're bringing an act of agatha that's the door to mephisto so could this be mephisto they put the thing on the whiteboard right why the hexagons 666 devil all of that kind of stuff the episode ends with what we see them i i loved uh we also saw the different perspective on jimmy woo trying to communicate through the radio and how it kind of glitched in the show and stuff. That was great. And then we see them kind of experiencing what's happening to Geraldine, but not really. Like they're watching the episode. And as soon as she brings up Ultron, they're like, whoa, has that ever happened before?
Starting point is 00:44:37 A reference to our reality? And then just kind of glitches and the show ends and Geraldine's gone. And they say, what happened to her? Then we see the end of last week's episode where they run up on her they're like oh my god she just got thrown out of the universe the aspect ratio widens we get to see reality but it's the 70s so you it's they clue us in like listen you're seeing what's really happening in this television show now and you see the full scene with geraldine you see her get very angry she throws her through two walls in the house a fence and then the final barrier breaking the fourth wall of the show
Starting point is 00:45:12 just a brilliant fucking down to the final details they're thinking about this stuff rebuilds it all vision comes in where did geraldine go oh she had to rush home and then as wanda turns around she sees vision with the mind stone ripped out of his head not his temple his forehead the scariest visual of the episode she she's even stunned by you know she has that reaction of oh my god and she looks back at him and he said what's wrong and she sees him normal again so now the question is is that his body is she literally resurrecting like a puppet of his dead body? Is that she just seeing it?
Starting point is 00:45:47 She haunted by it? I don't know. But the way this episode ended really gave us hope that the end of this show is going to get weird, going to get fucking scary, going to get wacky. And they kick it off with Jimi Hendrix, Voodoo Child. They end it with Jimi Hendrix, Voodoo Child. Oh, so good. I don't know how much they
Starting point is 00:46:05 paid for the rice of that song but it how much however much it was so worth it so worth it thousand percent worth it and not only does it like it fits in with kind of the vibe of the show but it just makes you like if you fire it up it also gives me the nw hogan vibes too every time every time how the whole kogan went from fucking real american which and then i don't know what his theme song was before he went to hollywood but then to go to fucking voodoo like when that played it was fucking sick and i wasn't even a big wcw fan back then but um everything about that jimmy hendrix to make a song where hulk hogan could abandon real american and bring it to the wwf he came out to that at WrestleMania 19 and people were like, fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:48 He had the feather boa. Oh my God. Someone said vision is basically their weekend at Bernie's Bernie. It's basically just a lot dead. Someone's going to make that poster. That's hysterical. Right. That would be incredible. But that vision thing, that was like, that was one of them. like, that chilled me. Like, that kind of fucked me up, if we're going to be honest here. And every time I see him now, I'm just going to have that in my mind.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And because the internet has ruined my brain, I've been like, I can make so many memes out of that vision thing right there. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I feel like right now on Twitter without Steve Cohen. Like, my mind stone has been ripped out. My leader is gone. And I'm just on Twitter, Twitter dead eyes I don't care about the world anymore and that's what uh our guy vision is so um it's that was that was worth the first four episodes in itself you're still not 100 sure what's going on but this is just my guess I feel like all the people
Starting point is 00:47:41 in there that are like you know the regular regular residents of the town are basically like under a spell and are doing whatever. Obviously, Agnes knows what she's doing. She's kind of pushed Wanda to do things. You know, she's the only person who's kind of gotten her to do what she wants, you know, as we made her do actions. And I think Vision is very much dead. I don't think there's even any – like, I feel like Vision could be fixed,
Starting point is 00:48:04 right? Like, obviously, Tony can't fix him. But, but like if you gave him to the Hulk, you gave him to Bruce Banner, he might be able to rewire him, but he would never be the vision. Cause he doesn't have the stone. I think so. So I feel like, but I feel like at this point, he's just basically a puppet. She might as well just stick her hand up his ass. Cause she's just treating him like a puppet.
Starting point is 00:48:21 She's weekend at burning him. And, uh, If that's his real body, it's 10 times creepier. If that's like, she's like reanimating his corpse, literally, if it's what she's seeing still creepy, but yikes.
Starting point is 00:48:35 So I'm going to say what I was going to say. And I'm going to already say, before I say it, that I'm taking it back. I was going to say, I want to see what visions body is like. Like, I want to see the whole thing where she's moving him around and he's kind of doing it and as I say that I gotta chill down my spine
Starting point is 00:48:50 because that's fucking dark man yeah I don't know if I want like I remember a couple months ago Rowan started up a chain where it's like him Tyler I think Coley a dead bird chain where they would just tweet text dead birds to each other I was like oh I'd love to be in that chain and then i was like a day later i was like i don't want to be in this chain it's like yeah we had like a meeting amongst ourselves we said clem you're not built for this it's like you're right i like real living birds i'm part of the barstool bird club i'm not part of the barstool dead bird club and this is the same thing i want to see it it's like morbid curiosity i want to see it i feel like we're gonna see it but i'm not ready for it and i don't know if i ever will be i know all right let's get into some questions for this like we're going to see it, but I'm not ready for it. And I don't know if I ever will be. I know. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Let's get into some questions for this week. We're back to questions. And the first one we got is from our guy, Brendan Clancy. We got to have Brendan on for an episode during the season too, because I feel like he's like the theory king. He loves researching on Reddit and all this stuff. So we got to have him on. He'll bring his best theories.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I love this question because I had this in mind. I wanted to bring it up on the episode. He said, who do you think the actor that Paul Bettany was super excited to finally work with is? Paul Bettany did an interview recently. It might have even been the Lights, Camera, Barstool or KFC Radio interview. I think it was one of the two where he said, by the end of this show, people are going to have their minds blown. And he finally gets to work with an actor that he's always wanted to work with. Clem, hang in there with me. I'm going to say something batshit crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I'm going to say something that might blow the mind stone out of your brain. Too soon. What if this actor is Sir Ian McKellen, a.k.a. Magneto? Bobby, that was my answer too! Get out of here! I was going to say Magneto. I was going to say Magn out of here i was gonna say magneto i was gonna say magneto too that was what i had written down could you fucking imagine could you imagine if they really kept that secret if they did the mandalorian thing where they did like the volume or whatever that circle where they could make sure no cameras are getting in here only the people that are like
Starting point is 00:50:42 under fucking high security nuclear level clearance can get in here could you imagine if they fucking got magneto that is who i want that's and i was trying to think like actor and obviously there's like basically everyone who like works in the mcu these days like an a-list actor because that's just what they do and they fucking nail it every single time with the casting but i'm thinking outside the box i'm obviously always thinking x-men which is what i'm hoping how many times i mean every time we get a new release and my dumb ass is like oh but where's the x-men where's the x-men and it was just scaring us house of m whatever this is gonna be right in our face obviously the wanda connection right because he's her dad her father right yes so it just and it's
Starting point is 00:51:23 even implied in the movies too in age of ultron they have that line not about mutants but they say like extremely gifted or do they even say they they they imply it for sure and i don't yeah i don't know how this is all gonna work in terms of if this actually does bring the x-men in if she does kind of do the reverse house of emily said where everyone gets powers or it could be a multiverse that's where i was also thinking it could be like it would be weird if it was like benedict cumberbatch and dr strange comes in it's like all right like cool dude i i don't think they ever cross paths in no they definitely do in an infinity war um but that would be something where it's an actor we know of a role role we know of, but obviously it's never been brought here. And you don't have to keep him as Magneto
Starting point is 00:52:08 because I think Magneto is one of those guys that you could go younger down the road. Because at some point, you just can't keep using all the same X-Men, even though I would be fine with six of them. They nailed that X-Men 20 years ago. They did a really good job, yeah. Yeah, they really did.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I mean, Hugh Jackman became, you know, and I'll say this, I'll say this and there there's an easy scapegoat, an easy way to do it. Dr. Strange and the multiverse of madness, the whole next, you know, phase of the Marvel thing is going to involve the multiverse, bringing that stuff in. You can take like 40% of that team if you want and be like, these guys are from this multiverse, the Sony multiverse, and these guys are from our MCU.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And you can combine them there. The next question we got was WandaVision tied with the new Doctor Strange has to be the X-Men introduction into the MCU, right? I think at this point, yeah, I think that's pretty safe to assume. Like I didn't even really put it together at first, but what? You took the one mutant you got and you gave her her own show first wanda and it's like you imply it you make the quicksilver connection right you brought up quicksilver another one i never thought would get brought up again at the mcu but now we got another question
Starting point is 00:53:14 i don't know where it is i don't know who it's from but they said do you think there's a chance we see quicksilver i do think at this point there's a chance they might bring him back as a trauma thing you know if wanda is reanimating vision at this point what's to stop her from reanimating quicksilver and saying oh my brother's coming over for the weekend can't wait and that's a sitcom episode oh okay i could i could because that was one thing about age of ultron that always was weird to me was the introduction of a new character and then immediately killing him and as someone that read the books I always felt like Quicksilver was like a relatively important character you know I mean obviously the Magneto connection he's cool in the X-Men movies too when they do the the scenes where he's like running and everything appears so slow to him and
Starting point is 00:53:57 he's got the music those scenes are some of the best parts of the newer X-Men movies even the bad ones those scenes are always sick so like they nailed them in those movies. If they brought back Pietro or whatever, and they could try again, hell, we just said that Wanda was basically a different character in Age of Ultron. He could be a different character too. It was Big Blue Theory that sent that question in,
Starting point is 00:54:18 by the way. Thank you for sending in a question. Shout out Big Blue Theory. I hope that's a Giants fan, Big Blue Theory right there. I would love it if Wanda always had like the sokovian accent whenever she said pietro whenever she's like remember i think there was like a a video a few years ago with dave and he was with someone from boston and like boston portway came out out of nowhere like you start having the heavy and i'm like where did this guy come from i'd love to see that come back with uh where she's always like talking a little like this
Starting point is 00:54:46 escobian but you know maybe like i said the multiverse opens and there's so many different things that could come out of it and whether it's the exact you know quicksilver that died in ultron or another one um i do feel like you know again loki's gonna be back fanos has already come back like that's just how comic books work just find a way to make it happen i'd be 100% all right with it and if she just reanimates him let's get dark man you want to get dark let's just get dark I'm ready to go down that that I the kids watched uh watch a little bit
Starting point is 00:55:13 with me they came in the room when I was watching it and um that's a pretty messed up show to have watching everyone be careful for like 10% of it though it's like super appropriate for them for 90 of it yeah the mind fuck of it you're like oh yeah it's fine it's like they're doing like i love lucy sitcom stuff it's fine and then a dead guy walks into the room exactly all right our final question from jason he says with herb not being named herb and his real name being listed this week are we feeling better about him have his sus levels gone down i'm gonna say this no i'm gonna say finding out that his name wasn't really herb was like finding out santa claus wasn't well i'm not gonna say anything we're in the basement it was like finding out things about santa claus was like finding things out about the tooth fairy
Starting point is 00:55:57 you know this is a safe space i'm not gonna say it but it wasn't good i didn't like it i didn't like finding out that he was like jonathan something. It was like a totally normal name. I would have loved if they just said everyone's name and it's like, this guy is Herb. No, no. What's his current name? No, no. Herb. I don't know what the hell it is. He's Herb. I was so bummed.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I have actually created a sus rankings for us this week. Oh, let's hear it. Okay. Number one in our sus rankings agnes 100 sus 100 sus whatever the definition of sus is she's it number two wanda wanda is sus af sus as fuck wanda i mean she it's one and one a with her and agnes another like emmy award-winning scene at the end of this episode she was fantastic crushed it number three on the sus list agent hayward is sus on my list i don't trust him whatever the guy gets to promotion that probably shouldn't have gotten it but the other person
Starting point is 00:56:56 couldn't get it for some reason and it's just a little too convenient when he's not in the scenes sus i love that because we're also going to need some kind of way for rambo to be triumphant right at the end of this she could get promoted into that original position which she should have had from the blip i like that that's a good one sus af and then for i guess i'll throw herb on the sus list he's he's the last of the sus rankings this week herb just because he's not named herb because the thing is if his name real name was Herb, zero, 0% sucks. But he's not named Herb. You can trust a Herb. You can trust a Herb.
Starting point is 00:57:29 That's what threw me off so much is when I thought he was sucks and he's here cutting through the wall, which, by the way, the fact that Herb has a gif already on Twitter when you said WandaVision, I love that he made the list. How about this? I just looked up WandaVision. It was like the first one. I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:57:45 They just made my job real easy. That's exactly what happened to me. I saw it. I put in WandaVision for the blog, which, by the way, I wrote that blog saying people are going to – I really like WandaVision, and they're going to love it. I mean, what's the opposite of all takes? Just right takes?
Starting point is 00:57:59 Right takes exposed. I nailed it. Everyone's just like, this show. I almost wrote it after the first episode, but I was like, I'm going to wait a week before, you know, let's get some more momentum on the show side. I mean, it's all right. I think we've already cashed that in.
Starting point is 00:58:11 We've already cashed in the back. Going off the point I just made about it being really good. It's officially a morning watch show for now on. It's a morning watch. First thing I, I didn't get any spoilers, but I got like, oh my God, those first three minutes of WandaVision. We're at the point now where we might get something major happen. And Disney's tweeting shit the day of too.
Starting point is 00:58:30 You have to. That's why I watched it because I got something spoiled for me. I got that. I saw the helicopter. They tweeted a clip of them sending the helicopter. And I was like, Jesus, from Disney. It's like this day of. Come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:58:42 They need to release these on Saturday. So you're not going to work. People should have the day off or whatever, some to watch it so i hate that um number two episodes now they're too short they're just too short it's like 20 minutes obviously there's no commercials i appreciate it for you they have to take out like the 10 minute fucking credits run so like my brain isn't like why is there so much i feel like it's just empty space in every episode and it's just not fair and then i have to watch the credits in case there's a post credit scene i don't want to get that spoiled for me so i just hate that the episodes are too short but i guess i mean it technically is a typical you know episodical show 20 minutes without
Starting point is 00:59:19 commercials um i feel bad for monica she listen to this She went from the snap, from being unsnapped, to being in WandaVision in two weeks. What a fucking – and she found out her mom died. And she found out she didn't get the promotion to the job that her mom built. Fucking shout out, Monica. I don't know what else to say other than that. But, I mean, you can't have – you just snap out of existence and then you enter a 70s TV show and then you get sent out of the world which by the way if wanda's fucking if
Starting point is 00:59:50 wanda's hands have red you're about to be dead that should be the fucking like uh sword you know checklist like if you see her eyes start glowing run motherfuckers she's about to get medieval on your ass and uh my last thing here, imagine if Wanda went into my house and saw my Thanos stuff. Like if I was in Westfield, I'd be fucking dead so quick. That would be a fan. We might have to shoot that scene.
Starting point is 01:00:15 If we could intertwine it with WandaVision, where it's just like, you're like sipping coffee, looking at your Thanos mugs and your Thanos, your gauntlet, everything. And then WandaVision just looks in like, howdy neighbor. And you're just like, you drop the coffee mug.
Starting point is 01:00:30 It shatters in slow motion. You're like, uh, I can explain. Boom, through four walls. And it's a Thanos coffee mug too, which makes it even worse. Like I'm drinking the gauntlet coffee mug. And I did see this theory a lot online. And I just want to mention it. People think that there's a chance that i think darcy's mentioned in passing that it might grow the wandavision like the sphere
Starting point is 01:00:51 may grow and that the world could then be caught like you know the state becomes and then this whole thing and that could lead to this house event stuff i don't know if that's the case but it's fucking terrifying the fact like i i can't wait like we referenced like that sounds like some dark phoenix shit and that's kind of i don't want to say where they're going but we definitely see wanda's powers are growing in an uncontrollable way where they're like we don't know what the fuck to do i also saw a great meme where they were like man this is crazy the most powerful avenger is losing control you want to fucking call the avengers it's like not fucking called jimmy woo who got it who is the missing person do we know that we don't know who the missing person is no because i i watched it twice and then i'm saying time like wait did they say the missing person
Starting point is 01:01:36 is it uh that was a question someone wrote in with a question and they said who's the missing person i have no idea maybe it's maybe fucking scott lang tried to disappear again that that could be a good one to go off the radar because he would have got snapped back and i like he he wasn't even snapped he was in the the quantum realm the whole time right yeah obviously because he goes back and then get um but then i'm thinking like could agnes or whoever mephisto takes the form of could that be a person that's missing and how do you get sent there yeah that that part of it is a complete mystery to me um which is perfect i mean we're halfway through the show we have some questions answered we have a shitload unanswered and probably some new questions
Starting point is 01:02:13 as long as wanda's sphere can go to salem new york and bring the fucking x-men to the show that's all i care about right now let me put that on the record

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