My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 112 - WANDAVISION EPISODE 8 RECAP WITH CLEM & SUPER PRODUCER BC

Episode Date: March 1, 2021

Robbie and Clem RETURN for the penultimate WandaVision episode recap/breakdown, and they've brought Super Producer Brendan Clancy back into the mix by popular demand. 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout t...o receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Bearbottom Clothing: Use code BASEMENT at bearbottomclothing.com for FREE SHIPPING on your first order Magic Spoon: Use code ROBBIE at MagicSpoon.com/ROBBIE for $5 off Kevin Feige Shirt: https://store.barstoolsports.com/products/kf-teeYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports, Magic Spoon, 3Chi, and Bare Bottom Clothing. This week we have a penultimate edition of our WandaVision Recaps. God, I love saying that. And we've got the fan favorite, Brennan Clancy, coming back into the basement with Mean Clem. The three of us back together brendan people were saying we need more bc he's got the best theories well i love that i mean we're running out of time now so i don't know if i have any like wild theories you know earlier on it's like easier to just be like we can go a zillion
Starting point is 00:00:39 different directions but uh i appreciate it i love talking with you guys clem how you doing doing great good to have bc back in the basement again we uh an ultimate i love talking with you guys clem how you doing doing great good to have bc back in the basement again we uh an ultimate i mean you just you hear that phrase and uh it kind of gives you the goosebumps it wasn't your typical penultimate that we've gotten used to maybe some other series but uh we still got a shitload of things that happen so excited adds that gravitas the penultimate episode it's like oh shit things are going down and tell you what added the gravitas immediately to this episode was the first time that me and clem watched together we did a disney plus group watch at three in the morning clem woke up at you know 2 30 i stayed
Starting point is 00:01:15 up through the whole thing and we zoomed during it we did a little slumber party if you want to call it that as soon as the marvel logo changed to purple this week both of us were like oh here we go it was exciting it was also the moment i realized we are simps for marvel he has us wrapped around his little color we're up like i am waking up at three in the morning or something i could very easily watch it like i don't know five if i you know i have to bake in the kids right because i can't have the kids running around as i'm watching so i have to bake in an hour or so but i'm like all right i gotta get up at three o'clock in the kids, right? Because I can't have the kids running around as I'm watching. So I have to bake in an hour or so. But I'm like, all right, I got to get up at 3 o'clock in the morning and live stream my reaction in case anything crazy happens.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Marvel has us and everyone else who pulled the same move or even does it before work wrapped around their fucking finger right now. So I am a simp. I now know what a simp is. It's like sus. I hear it a lot. Don't really know. I am now a simp. I'm a simp. I now know what a simp is. It's like sus. I hear it a lot. Don't really know. I am now a simp.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I'm a simp sus motherfucker because of Marvel. And one of the worst parts of watching it at three in the morning is when the episode ends and it's almost four in the morning. And now you want to go look up every Reddit theory, every single Easter egg, every single did this ever happen in the comics? Did that ever happen in the comics? Can we just not do that at 3am? Can they just put it on at a reasonable time?
Starting point is 00:02:24 I mean, is that too much to ask? They should do the premieres. They should do like the 8 p.m. premiere. I would love that. If we could live tweet it like it was Game of Thrones and all that. But if you're one of these people that wakes up at 3 a.m., you watch it, you're staying up, and now you're like, I can't get back to sleep.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Maybe you got work in the next morning. Get yourself some 3C. I've been tweeted by so many people this week. They're saying 3ie has helped my sleep like i never imagined it would this stuff is the best in the biz even how about this boys mama fox dove back into the threechie this week i had the vape home and she said give me a hit of that rob let me see what that's like so i said all right take a little hit be careful she took a hit it was so funny she acted like it was nothing and then immediately was like oh i didn't
Starting point is 00:03:04 realize i held it in then i was coughing up a storm the rest of the night but it was so funny she acted like it was nothing and then immediately was like oh i didn't realize i held it in then i was coughing up a storm the rest of the night but it was so funny the next morning she said rob how much is one of those little things i think i may like to get myself one she said i you know the gummy was a little too much for me but the vape take one hit right before bed she said it was perfect for her so go to 3g.com right now use the promo code mmb i don't know what more of a sell i could have for you guys my mom is in on 3chi my mom's basement we're in my mom's basement i'm bringing 3chi upstairs you know to the penthouse from the basement to the living room 3chi is out right now that's all you need to know the mommy spread out all over the house and our basement by the way is not like uh
Starting point is 00:03:42 agatha's basement when you think of the basement, I want you to think of Wayne's World and not Agatha's basement because, God, that's scary. The bugs, everything. I hated the bugs this week. You boys want to get into this episode? Let's do it. Go past the Marvel logo changing to purple. I was so bummed, too.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I thought we were going to get an Agatha previously on WandaVision or previously on – it was Agatha all along. So I will admit I was a little hurt that that you know again i don't expect fighting to throw perfect games just no hitters at this point i would like that actually if she would have been the one to say previously on wandavision and like her theme is in the background a little bit all the themes by the way shout out to everyone that's made a remix of agatha all along the hip-hop version the rock and roll version the metal version every single version is amazing there's a challenge apparently going on now we're like all these musicians are doing like an agatha
Starting point is 00:04:28 long challenge um the guy who made the trap music hit me up it was like hey we're you know they're doing this blah blah so i have to look into it still but does pop punk need to put out a pop version absolutely if i could convince the other boys to do that, you know I'm in. Oh, it was Erica. Oh, look at that. We just need to wait for Erica to turn into an evil person in the office. That would be great if, like, everyone is yelling at Portoy or, you know, saying Portoy's taking Barstool to the moon, and then we just kind of give a little Erica shout-out.
Starting point is 00:04:59 So remember that for bonuses next year. Yeah, let's bookmark that. That's actually a pretty great idea. All right, so we open with the Salem witch trials in 1693 this was something that was teased not in the show but just by fans they were saying oh Agatha maybe she's been around forever the Salem witch trials she had that calendar right with the date circled and Agatha is being accused of using dark magic by a woman who we find out to be her mother. And she's at the stake. There's
Starting point is 00:05:26 witches surrounding her and they say, are you a witch? Are you using dark magic? She says, yes, but I didn't break the rules. The rules bent to my power. And they try to burn her at the stake unsuccessfully using their powers. I think the beams, the colored beams have to mean something. I'm sure we could talk about that, but they all have different colored beams of magic. The witches have blue, Agatha has purple, Scarlet Witch obviously has red, and Agatha pulls the life out of her own mother. There was a funny moment during our lights, camera, barstool breakdown
Starting point is 00:05:54 when Jeff D'Lo was like, what did this remind you of? And I didn't know what he was talking about. The wheels started turning on my head. I was like, oh, fucking Zam Wessel from Star Wars Episode II when Jango fett shoots her with a little dart and she's like a changeling she turns into an alien it did kind of look like that she pulls the brooch off of her so that's the brooch she's been wearing and this was our big intros you know going back to 1693 the salem witch trials are now canon in the mcu the salem
Starting point is 00:06:19 witch trials are much cooler in the marvel universe than they were when you learned it in school it was like it was kind of just fucked up and stuff like, wow, they really did that. It's kind of like one of the first times you really just how fucked up humanity can be. I will say this though. Brent has kids. I have kids and my kids, I don't know about Brent. Like my kids just straight up. Don't respect us anymore. They just tell us no to our faces. They, they like AJ straight up.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Like we tell him not to do something. He does it while looking at us. I am going to learn Latin because that is the scariest language of all time and i'm just going to start speaking fucking witch hymns to them i might even learn magic as well but for now we're just going to stick with some latin phrases and just to kind of say i'm like ipsum you know the whenever they have like little things mocked up they write like ipsum and all this random oh yeah lorem ipsum yeah yeah i'm gonna start saying that shit to them just to scare the fuck out of them because that was terrifying the latin i love the spin on it that it was like a trial by witches instead of the trial i mean it was a trial of a witch but it was you know i definitely thought when they opened that up i was like this is going to be the townspeople
Starting point is 00:07:18 and they're going to try and kill her and mephisto's going to come save her and it's like no no no that's the that's the easy that you that, then that's not what's happening. So, but yeah, I agree with you. Like, it's funny you try and track all the colors. Like, you know, so she's purple, and purple is Dormammu, but purple is also Black Panther. And blue, I don't think we've really seen a ton of.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I guess, is Monica's blue? So I don't know if that'll tie in. But then I'm also just like, you also have to allow for like, there's only so i don't know if that'll tie in but then i'm also just like maybe i don't know you also have to allow for like there's only so many colors so marvel is like this probably you know agatha's is maybe tied to dormammu but probably not tied to black panther um but you know it's just like i mean we gotta run out of colors guys and the infinity stones they use all of them so it's like it's a box of fucking crayola crayons in there it's like oh shit maybe we're
Starting point is 00:08:03 just using colors now and the infinity stones have ruined colors for all of us. Right, right, right. We got the little crown that the mother sort of, it kind of like subtly emerged when she was getting her power drained. Just something like straight out of your mom. Scarlet witch thing. Yeah. Was that her brooch? The mom had the brooch? Was it the mom had the brooch? Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So that was her kind of her signature thing from the comics I know. And I think that was kind of on her character in every episode somewhere with some like you know reference to the brooch which i guess is a big deal i mean we are diving deep on characters i had no clue existed back when i read the comics like agatha harkness was so off my radar and she's like the most important thing in my life right now it's kind of i think back to me watching the first two episodes of this show and having no idea who agatha harkness was at that point and being like who knew that by the end of this we would be doing deep dives on that random character that we were like oh yeah she was kind of funny right yeah she's sus she's fucking her all along so the the the scarlet witch now
Starting point is 00:08:59 sound i guess this will be by the end of it we'll talk about it but it sounds like it's almost like a title like you are the scarlet witch which i don't know if it you know it's like you are the one with the red power obviously like the most powerful agatha have the title is she the blank witch right and did the mom have the title because and does the brooch signify that because if it's colors then you know her powers were blue so it's not that but you know i don't know if it's being as as literal it's like you know the scarlet witch might just be like the queen of the witches at the time or the most powerful. Maybe there's, maybe there's only one. I don't know. So we'll, I guess, I think that's one of the things where you hope you get the
Starting point is 00:09:33 answer, but you don't know if you're going to, I could be wrong, but I think at the end of the episode, she says, you are the Scarlet Witch. Sounds like it, right? Which makes it sound like there's, there would be only one. We go back to like modern, you know, quote unquote modern day in the basement agatha's basement she's petting the rabbit still senor scratchy she says wanda you know your magic doesn't work here how do you not know this you're surrounded by these runes and they have these basic spells in them where you can't use it she makes a joke where she says
Starting point is 00:09:58 your accent really does come and go doesn't it which is so perfect and meta for all the mcu fans they just take any quote-unquote like mistake or thing that people are like oh this is a little weird this is off and they're like no it's not anymore we're just going to reference it and then it's weird in the universe as well it must be wild to write a show like that and and be like well we're going to have to anticipate with the bloggers at barstool sports and they do they did it so well like every step of the way they knew what we were going to be theorizing they knew what we were going to be theorizing. They knew what we were going to be guessing. The whiteboards, the hexes.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I think they were guessing that, that Fiatro would be more of a thing. I don't, I don't think a lot of people said Fiatro and they kind of like guessed that. And it was still funny, but I think a lot of people were going to be like, no, no, no, that's a fake Fiatro. That's Fiatro.
Starting point is 00:10:39 The line about the accent, it kind of reminds me when they changed the Brody in Iron Maiden. It's like, yep, it's me. It's weird. Like just deal with it kind of a thing when they changed the uh brody in iron man he's like yep it's me it's weird like just deal with it kind of a thing like you change actors all together and that's how they said it in one line how they change actors and they didn't go through all the bullshit that happened in the backseat in the background and i just love it's like the same kind of thing and let's be honest we just re-watched agent voltron i do not need to hear that sokovia sokovia accent ever again i'm very happy to hear regular liz's balsam voice and hey that roadie
Starting point is 00:11:05 thing maybe they go back now and they're like yep it was a multiverse thing somebody changed it nobody told don cheetle nobody told the other guy it's a fucking you know she mentions fiatro she says she came to westview when she sensed all the magic going on she didn't know what was going on when she sensed it she immediately came over that's why she wouldn't have the corresponding person or why you know obviously she was from salem so maybe she wouldn't have the corresponding person or why you know obviously she was from salem so maybe she wouldn't have the idea in the first place and she takes wanda back to sokovia now we go into the christmas carol storyline of this episode can i just say something here go ahead yeah i was fucking embarrassed by wanda when she was in that
Starting point is 00:11:40 basement and fucking agatha was just throwing her around like you you clearly didn't go to witch school, Wanda. Like she's like talking about runes and stuff and he's trying to use her magic. But that's like fucking like witch 101. You can't use your magic with someone else cast the runes. I was fucking embarrassed as a Wanda fan. I'm a diehard. I said like Wanda, you can pretty much do a lot in this next phase and I'm going to ride with you. Cause I know your backstory here, but you gotta,
Starting point is 00:12:04 you can't like embarrass me in front of the witches. It's we put in uh it's a 20 stark says that like you're embarrassing in front of the wizards here you're embarrassing in front of the fucking behind it all along and i as a bird guy did not appreciate that bird getting squeezed and then it's tough they threw it into the fucking mouth yeah that was fucked up and the word i we all i think we're um leo dicCaprio in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when she said transmutation. The M word is a thing where I'm pointing at the screen every single time. One of those runes had an M in it.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Did you guys notice that? Like the first rune they showed was just an M, and I was, oh, an M. Here we go, an M, House of M. Senior Scratch has got to be top of the sus list right now, right? That's not just a rabbit sitting there. Come on. How much more are we going to have this rabbit eating birds? And then it's just like right now, right? That's not just a rabbit sitting there. Come on. How much more are we going to have this rabbit eating birds? And then it's just like, oh, no, it's just like a demonic rabbit.
Starting point is 00:12:49 That's what it is. No, no, come on. That's something. Maybe that's why she's trying to figure out how Wanda did all this. Maybe she's trying to bring back Senior Scratch. Did he get banished into being a rabbit? Something like that. I wonder if he – is he just caught in the hex is he just like somebody
Starting point is 00:13:07 that was there and you're a rabbit transformed into a rabbit i get a feeling though everyone gets to stay together with their families and shit you're a fucking rabbit i get a feeling though that everything in that basement is sort of like not in in the hex like it's true like it's like like it's like a portal to agatha's world she probably made that once she got to the hex like it's true like it's like like it's like a portal to agatha's world she probably made that once she got to the hex somehow maybe yeah it could be that too yeah and i will say this like that the i i couldn't figure it out at first you you you pointed out pretty quick right i know there was i know my wife was kind of like how the hell did agatha like was she in the town already and she does say like i I sense the magic going on here.
Starting point is 00:13:48 So that is kind of how she ends up there, probably just set up shop in the basement. God knows wherever the people that were living in that house were. They're probably fucking dead. That's probably the splattered plastic where it looked like there was blood or whatever. That's probably the owners of the house or whatever. So that might get a little gruesome if we find out that backstory. Rest in peace to the owners of that house. Just tragic story right there.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And she tells Wanda in this scene scene which was very surprising to me it was a way they took it where i didn't think they were going to take it that she wants to figure out how wanda did all this she doesn't know how wanda did all this and the whole time i've been watching this show since we've been skeptical on uh agatha i've been thinking she has actually been doing this especially the agatha all along she has been doing the hex using some of wanda's powers using some of the you know vast power that she has inside of her and that's why it was her all along but it's not it's very much like wanda did everything herself and agatha's like how the fuck did you do this because i would like to also figure out how to do this so she takes her back to sokovia this is before the bomb hit we see wanda's parents not
Starting point is 00:14:44 the people from the commercials who we you know we, we speculated on that early on. There's a absolute war zone going on outside. Coley had a funny tweet where he's like, you're just going to watch sitcoms while your neighbors are gunned down in the streets. But it's a, it's a war zone and they're very much kind of life is beautiful in it to the children. They're like, nope, that's not happening. Don't look there. Let's watch the Dick Van Dyke show. Ken Jack said they the dvds out of their dick hole in the wall he said we got to call that the dick hole and we see all the sitcoms in this briefcase that we've seen parodied over wandavision and this was such a nice kind of like heartwarming way to do the sitcom thing i just thought hey because sitcoms don't have you know the the horrible endings that most movies
Starting point is 00:15:25 and serious movies and tv shows have which is what wanted tells vision later on but i didn't expect that to actually be pointed out to us especially with the shows themselves we watched the dick van dyke show for a few seconds very much looks like the first episode of wandavision and then the bomb goes off dramatic as hell the music in this scene was perfect for what they were going for we see her and pietro under the table the first time scene was perfect for what they were going for we see her and pietro under the table the first time we're actually seeing what we were told about in age of ultra on the bomb is ticking it's going off just like that uh microwave or toaster whatever it was in the in the first episode and here's where it's a bit of a retcon but it's a retcon
Starting point is 00:16:01 that is okay i think it makes sense agatha tells wanda that she probably in that day used a probability hex on the bomb to make sure it didn't go off for those two days wanda is like no no it was just a malfunction that didn't go off she's like no no you were a scared child scared witch who used the probability hex i say it's a retcon because in age of ultron we were told you know they got their powers wanda and pietro by being tortured by struck her by you know the infinity stone now they're saying that happened it amplified their powers which we'll find out the next scene but she had the powers all along they were inside her all along which makes you think was she a mutant all along i mean got her ready and if she's i mean we don't know yet maybe we'll know by the end of it but you're if you're the child of magneto i mean then it makes sense that you're
Starting point is 00:16:48 a little kid who can control a bomb um and you know i who i guess they haven't really explained has did the mind stone also enhance uh pietro i guess i don't have to infer that yeah but you know i mean it going back to that scene where she said transmutation i was like okay okay here we are here we are but again i you know dove head first when we saw quicksilver from um the fox universe i was like okay we're in the multiverse and now we might not be yeah so you know can't go too far into jury's still out on that i don't i don't doubt that we're in the multiverse just yet we got one more episode i'm like they're gonna he's gonna have to have that conversation with monica where
Starting point is 00:17:29 they're you know outside the basement the post-credit scene what's gonna go down there is monica gonna be able to get through to him because she's got powers now i don't know i'm still jury's still out on that as someone that is like living and dying waiting for the first x-men like appearance or like confirmation during the show, I was staring really hard at like that six-year-old pH. I'll be in like that motherfucker is slow. He has no fucking like hints of being a fast ass Quicksilver. So that does kind of concern me again, if it's Mind Stone or something down the road that kind of unlocks it.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And that dad is very much, he seems like a delightful guy, right? One of my favorites to COVID I've ever seen. Definitely not motherfucking Magneto. Definitely not like the most incredible villain. i mean magneto's whole backstory with you know the concentration camps and shit like that it seems like he was just a very important person in the sokovian community though and i i know brian had this brobby maybe not so much in uh in jersey but at least at least when you were in uh fordham or even the bronx yeah the dvd sales person that goes to the bar or the barber shop and they sell
Starting point is 00:18:25 you the bootlegs that guy is what makes the world go around and i mean i feel like they're like what does that person do now everything's digital like have they just been like you know evolved out of like the community or are they like slinging drugs now you gotta you gotta be on a blockchain yeah you want this mp4 i don't know from the block to the blockchain from the block to the blockchain i like that like you want that lebron james fucking dunk that top shot right here i got it for you 59 and people are like where and they're like well i mean here it's trust me it's here that's what it feels like buying nfts are like you just like buy nothing it's emperor's new clothes you just buy virtual nothing the the kids these days they
Starting point is 00:19:05 don't know like you would buy that uh you know copy of fast and furious 3 and you get home being like i hope it has i hope it's in english i hope it's actually fast and the furious like you don't know what you were getting i hope it like was like the digital version not the shaky camera version of it people's heads like at the bottom of the screen because it's literally just every now and then you're like oh geez he had the good shit though he had like the american plug he had the the legit like it looked like the real dvds and shit like that he had dvds from the future did you see malcolm in the middle it didn't come out to like 2002 yeah that is 1999 yeah yeah i don't know if it was like a continuity error or they're trying to hint at something also something about the
Starting point is 00:19:41 magneto thing that you brought up clem that i saw i think they brought this up on kevin smith's podcast last week the whole concentration camp backstory with magneto it's one of the most recognizable parts of his character especially since the fox x-men movies that he was a holocaust survivor if you bring that in at this point you might have to do something with de-aging or something because the holocaust happened a long time ago and it would make magneto like 90 by the time that the mcu is going down so you could say hey he's a mutant so he ages very slowly or you could do something like that but you definitely need to excuse it because we're getting to the point now where that might become disassociated with magneto if the x-man and all this stuff still exists in 100 years is that going to be his backstory in 100 years i don't know
Starting point is 00:20:23 yeah that's a great point that's a fucking really great point i think i love when they they do this right it's very dangerous i wouldn't even speculate like how to change the character but if you can find what works in the timeline you know unfortunately you just have to find like another distressed community it's not going to be like you know i don't know i mean there could be holocaust happening all the time and we just don't know because we live in like privilege but you know be like you know i don't know i mean there could be a holocaust happening all the time and we just don't know it because we live in like privilege but you know you find that like i don't know is it like he's from afghanistan or something like that where like the people were suffering him a refugee of some sort yeah right yeah you might have to change it to
Starting point is 00:20:56 become more modern with the times right right honestly it could be i mean fucking eastern europe went through some shit during the cold war right and that kind of mixes in with sokovia too so i guess that could be a way to go. How did, but damn, it makes you feel like Magneto is, it's just the timelines don't match up anymore because the comic books have been around and then the movies. So that's a great point by Kevin Smith there. Shout out to him.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And the fucking Call of Duty game just happening outside of their fucking window. Like, it's crazy. They're just living in the middle of fucking a Call of Duty game. And that's just, you know, it's like the happiest moments of her life because she's with her family maybe let's not look through those curtains i feel like that's a clear like sniper in the window you know like don't look through those curtains now the family i feel really bad for them they probably got all their stuff destroyed in that bomb so i'm gonna suggest they head on over to bare bottom clothing to restock
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Starting point is 00:23:30 I think it was the Winter Soldier. This was the post-credit scene for that. Looked just like that. There's sitcoms on again. I joked to Clem during this. I was like, these scientists, they didn't know what the fuck they were doing because they were like, alright, Wanda, why don't you go touch it? See what happens.
Starting point is 00:23:49 What the fuck kind of experiment is that? They're like everyone that's touched just died wanda see what see what goes down when you keep running orphans out there the fuck they're just making everyone touch this they're like hopefully we'll find a witch eventually look i told you i told you we're gonna find a witch yeah i said the robbie would be like if barstool sports opened up the science wing of the blog. And it's like, all right, we have Big Cat and KFC and they're scientists. Like, yeah, hire a new intern. Now go touch that fucking glowy thing. Vibs is over there telling people to touch an infinity stone.
Starting point is 00:24:15 We're taking turns. Welcome to lowering the bar. Infinity stone experimentations. I fucking love it. She does it, though. She walks up to it. The stone kind of, I say it called to her kind of like in star Wars, how the force calls to some people, the mind stone kind of called to Wanda in this moment, it, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:36 the shell exploded off of it. You see the yellow mind stone. And then she has this vision, no pun intended of herself, the Scar herself the scarlet witch at least we think it's herself we could be pretty sure you know based on that assumption it's the scarlet witch in very much kind of like a dark phoenix uh visually it looked like that she's like coming down from the heavens there's been brightened images online where they show you know this is a costume that she's wearing like it looks like the new scarlet Witch costume. She's got the headpiece on and everything looks really bad-ass. And then it just kind of goes black and it's like, Oh, what happened? The people in the room are like, what happened in that room? I don't look like it when it glitched
Starting point is 00:25:15 in the TV show, um, how she just like made sure that they couldn't see that. I don't know, but it makes me think like what you referred to earlier, Brendan, when the Scarlet Witch, could that be a title? This kind of made me think like, did she view herself as the Scarlet Witch, just like Jean Grey had the Dark Phoenix? I don't know, but I feel like it could be. Yeah, is it like a vision of the future or is it just the mind's own communicating? I saw people say that's her nexus. Like since she's a nexus being, there's only one of her through all universes. Like she saw her own nexus
Starting point is 00:25:47 and that's a thing nexus beings are able to do. That could be cool if you play it off like that. It kind of gave me, like if you know anything about Kang the Conqueror, which I think there's rumors of him coming in in the next Ant-Man. I think he's confirmed to come in in Ant-Man. Is it? Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah. And he's just like, from what I understand of it, and I'm sure in Marvel, there's like a million different stories about him the way it's told, but he's like a distant future, but, but coming back and he like travels through time. So I'm like, is this her, is this her final form? Is she like seeing herself as like,
Starting point is 00:26:19 this is your destiny. This is what you will eventually be. But it seems like it's so far, it's like beyond our understanding. Like it's like, this is when you become that like upper echelon type of thing. So, but just very like ominous, very like powerful conveying all like, you know, she's not just like fucking around with the drapes, you know, like, Oh, let me change this Ottoman. You know, it's like, she's obviously like very, very powerful. It's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I think where it's like you you run into that like you can't give anybody too much power or if you do you have to tell it in a way where she is still somewhat limited because it's just like you don't want them being like well why doesn't she just snap her fingers and erase agatha you know it's like okay we have to somehow tell the story but convey is that ultimate dark phoenix like power my broken internet detective brain was like you said kang is from the near future i uh wanda's dad confirmed kang because he had malcolm in the middle years before it came out that fucking outfit is fire it is so cool i and as someone that is already prepared to be rooting for the bad guy in this next year because we basically
Starting point is 00:27:21 are witnessing an extended version of breaking bad right like what this is what like wanda was like this good kid and we've seen her through the few movies she's been in now this show and there's a chance she's gonna become heisenberg except heisenberg can fucking just like wipe people off the mat by like just thinking it with red shit coming out of their hands and a sweet fit so um i'm i thought that was awesome and like like robbie said if you guys go online you can find like the the people who change the brightness you kind of see what it looks like it's pretty and it kind of looks like even the um who is it there was was it nightmare or whatever the the little thing that was found in between the floors in that cartoon oh yeah grim reaper
Starting point is 00:27:56 yeah it kind of has a little vibe of that as well i don't know if that was if it's supposed to be maybe uh a shout out to what she's gonna end up wearing as her headpiece but uh very like you said very cool shit i love when they find a way to make the ridiculousness of the comics like like where they just at least like hint towards it um you know like like the costumes the halloween costumes when she was wearing it and she's like i'm a fortune teller and you know she's in the full ridiculous getup and even i mean i think this is part of the comic books but like you know captain america's outfit is a little silly but it was like well i'm a mascot yeah so now it's like all based on that so because it's all weird like capes you know you don't need a cape that cape is ridiculous but you know and they just
Starting point is 00:28:39 leave it on thor they don't explain that but they're like wow i mean he's like a norse royal i love the way vision gets his too it's just because he sees thor in age of ultron's the first person he sees and he's like should that be what i'm wearing all right i'll wear cape now i guess yeah because it is ridiculous it doesn't make any sense but they find a way to to add it all in that's one of my favorite things as well i tweeted last night i really really hope that favarow feloni and robert rodriguez find an excuse to have boba fett wear his holiday special colors in the book of boba fett i'm like just make it so it's like when he didn't have his armor he was like uh you know someone offers it to him someone tweeted me they said what if someone just
Starting point is 00:29:14 offers to sell it to him and he's like no that looks ridiculous yes give me that like that's what i want and you know they treat this like a challenge like they all just like sit in a room and they're like how are we going to work this in how are we going to explain this and they sometimes they just do it in little hints like you know when they're um when they're trying to lift the hammer and they're explaining they're like what if the hammer is in an elevator does the elevator go up that's because people like us and you know message boards and forums have been asking that question all the time so they're like of course tony stark would ask that question too it's just genius it's genius i think back when you mentioned the hypothetical superhero questions like that all the time to mall rats the conversation that brody has with stan lee where he's like superman i mean
Starting point is 00:29:53 would he need to wear a kryptonite condom would he just blow right through lois lane's back like well how does superman have sex with lois lane it doesn't make any sense and fucking even agatha says it in this scene where she's like i I have a theory, but I need more. That is all of us. Every fucking scene of the entire eight episodes so far, we go now to the Avengers HQ. It better be when they first moved into the Avengers HQ because the television that was in Wanda's room was rolled in on a cart.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Come on, Tony, what are you doing? You're making her drive this fucking used car. She's got a shitty television in her room. No wonder she went fucking crazy. She's watching Malcolm in the Middle. Great episode of Malcolm in the Middle
Starting point is 00:30:30 where Hal is fixing the, whatever they call it, the awning above the backyard falls on him. Vision walks in. He kind of asks her about it. He's like, you're laughing because that man is in terrible pain? She's like, no, no, it's not that kind of show. He's fine, I promise you. Which is another, oh, wow, this is, you know, what WandaVision has been the whole time. That's why she's wanted no no it's not that kind of show he's fine i promise you which is another oh wow this is you know what wanda vision has been the whole time that's why she's wanted the
Starting point is 00:30:48 sitcom world brilliant and they talk about pietro for a little bit and then vision hits us with one of the heaviest deepest lines in the history of the mcu people have been tweeting about it all weekend just because i think it hit everyone like a ton of bricks the same way where he says what is grief if not love persevering when he when he talks about uh pietro and how sad she is now she can't bring him back and the only thing that would make me happier is seeing him again and man sad as hell especially when you look at this is what the whole show has been about juan has been grieving because she loves vision so much so fuck that was brilliant writing whoever penned that line give them an emmy too we're handing out
Starting point is 00:31:26 emmys left and right on this show but give them an emmy as well best line they're making up a whole new category just for the bottom best line of the year goes to what and you said it man um fucking vision he's like a fortune cookie because he also has a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts like he's a fucking computer but bettany is i mean bettany's voice and just his style the way he looks give him an emmy too bettany gets one definitely um it's also kind of fucked up because you have to break a fortune cookie kind of the way thanos broke fucking i always got to bring it back i didn't even think about that clem dagger through my heart right there i love when the stuff is like clearly influenced like you know this is all written by by people and and i know um
Starting point is 00:32:05 robbie you're re-watching um true detective just finished it and and um like you know the nichi and the philosophy that goes into that like i honestly think like i learned about like nihilism and stuff like that through rust cole like in his quotes and i'm i'm quoting like rust cole on profound things because nick palazzato was heavily influenced by that and he probably went through like in his quotes, and I'm quoting like Russ Cole on profound things, because Nick Palazzato was heavily influenced by that. And he probably went through his own sort of like, thinking that life is meaningless. So whenever, you know, a real person sneaks in, like a life message, like, you know, not like it's a religion, but this is one way to view life, you know, this is one way to, you know, get through grief. I don't know who wrote that. But that is like, you
Starting point is 00:32:43 know, you learned a lesson from vision, like, Oh, wow, you know, get through grief. I don't know who wrote that, but that is like, you know, you learned a lesson from vision. Like, oh, wow. You know, like a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts. You know, that's like, it's very profound and, you know, optimistic in a certain way. If you're religious or not religious, you think about that, like, you know, finality of something. And that's what makes life what it is.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And I'm like, we're watching a fucking comic book movie. But bringing it back to the start, that's what we learned as kids reading comic books like always stand up for what's right captain america i don't like bullies there's all these little things that we learn as kids through cartoons through comics even through the movies if you're a kid when the early movies came out that now they're saying hey you're adults now we're gonna keep teaching you these life lessons they're just gonna hate you like a fucking ton of bricks this time they going to make you cry now.
Starting point is 00:33:26 The people that made comic books too, they weren't the ones who were out partying and having fun and like living this like fast life where there wasn't really like, they were just sitting in their fucking rooms and their basements like fucking losers. And they were reading books and they were like getting to know stuff. They overcame a lot of adversity, probably getting picked on and you kind of like think about the different
Starting point is 00:33:43 parts of life deeper than, you know, someone who was living, having like a fun easy breezy life so yeah of course it's like i feel like it's deep but that's i think one of the issues that a lot of people had when they were a lot of the like great directors were kind of just dismissing comic movies like you know this shit makes you feel things whether you want to admit or not like this shit has depth to it the fucking the way end game is i get chills just thinking about the portal scene to this day and that is one of like the lesser like deep moments in terms of you know shit like fucking vision just dropping lines on us he's a robot too that's the crazy it's not i know like wanda could
Starting point is 00:34:13 go through to say that kind of shit she actually has grief which is just some robot that's like two years old when he says that stuff it's crazy in that scene i thought wanda should have been having some magic spoon i mean how are you watching any milk in the middle without cereal without magic spoon i don't know what time of day it was but it doesn't matter to me i have it for dinner i have it for lunch i have it for breakfast it's my favorite thing in the world right now and i'm even getting ads for it on instagram i actually get a little excited every time i see a magic spoon ad on my instagram all the colorful cartoons i'm like oh this is fucking amazing this is magic spoon maybe they bought that instagram space because they're like man my mom's basement was such a good investment that
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Starting point is 00:36:40 not even looking for a kiss or anything but it's like there there was just like vision and you don't know what to say there's just like an awkward moment of silence. And then there's too much silence. You're like, man, I can't break it now. And then you're just in the vortex. Somebody else pointed this out. I think maybe it was new rock stars where, um, he, he walks through the wall and she's kind of like, you know, bugged out by it. And then in Ultron,
Starting point is 00:37:01 he walks through the wall and she goes, Viz, we talked about this. So you kind of get like the backstory. It's kind of reminds me of, of, um, Jimmy Woo through the wall and she goes, Viz, we talked about this. So you kind of get like the backstory. It's kind of reminds me of Jimmy Woo doing the card trick. They pay off all these little things. That's where like, I think by the end of this, we'll talk about like the predictions and stuff. You got to realize you're watching like a 500 hour movie. You're not watching like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:20 something that's going to be tied up. Well, it'll probably be tied up nicely because they're very well produced and very well done but you might not get all the answers that you were speculating about early on because you're like they might pay this off in like avengers 6 you might figure out who senior scratchy is in like ant-man 5 you know yeah i'm gonna be bringing my kids to the movies they're gonna be crumb by the time they figure out senior scratchy right right right i could see a lot of this paying off in doctor strange in the multiverse of madness we've been told this is a big lead into that and you know we talked about a little bit before we even started
Starting point is 00:37:51 but we don't know how long next week's episode is if it's 30 minutes i don't know if they can tie up all the loose strings so you might have to tease some you might have to make that post-credit scene a cliffhanger for doctor strange and that's gonna make a billion dollars because everyone's gonna want to find out what the fuck is going on in wandavision and now is spider-man coming out before dr strange so like will that tie in or reference or you know all the movies are usually pretty good standing alone and you know now then you get into like the whole marketing and like strategy behind what disney's doing are they going to make it like you need to watch you know six hours of disney plus show to like understand i i don't think so like i don't think they compromise a
Starting point is 00:38:30 blockbuster like you need to but obviously it's going to you know help help you understand what's happening you know i'd be like go fuck yourself sony you guys can do it on your own figure it out at this rate they need spider-man to be good right because that was like it was it definitely benefits both sides which by the way we didn't talk about this. I think it actually came out this week. Tom Holland saying that it's the greatest fight scene in a superhero movie that they have coming on. Tom. And they filmed it for like a month, too.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Yeah. Just a fight scene. Well, we got to talk about all these guys maybe doing a little bit too much promo and hyping things up a little too much. The whole Paul Bettany tease. The Luke Skywalker thing. I'm like, listen, we take this shit seriously. Maybe we shouldn't, but we take it seriously. We're going to speculate as fuck.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Like, I mean, you're going to have a better scene than like the portals end game scene. Like, I mean, I hope it's good, but I mean, it's just, you know, I don't know. We'll see. I hope it is. It's going to look like a live action version of the final into the spider-verse fight where we just have spider-man and fucking sinister six running around everywhere going every glitch in and yeah that would do it could you imagine they give like toby mcguire's spider-man like a fucking heart-wrenching death scene in this movie oh my god i'll be we i'll start weeping right now we go to sword she wants vision she's like let me let me see the body.
Starting point is 00:39:46 This is probably a few days after she comes back in Endgame. You would have to assume, or weeks after, pretty soon after. They send her to Hayward's office. Hayward is being a dick right off the bat. Just an absolute dick to her. He's talking to her. He's, like, flexing on her like he has powers and she doesn't in this scene. He says, we can't just give you $3 billion worth of vibranium to bury in the ground because that's what she wants to do.
Starting point is 00:40:09 She's like, let me give him a proper burial. He's like, we just can't do that. And he kind of plants this idea in her head that we especially can't give it to someone who has the power to bring her husband back from the dead. She's like, what? I can't do that. He's just digging. He's trying to get something from her. She looks over his body. She's like, why would you show me this he looks horrible the way he's being taken apart is oh the fingers are coming out wires spread out everywhere she breaks the glass and
Starting point is 00:40:34 goes down and now we start to get hints of like wait a minute this is kind of what we saw in that security footage oh she's about to steal vision's body she goes up to him she puts her hand on on his head she says i can't feel you very sad scene and then she just leaves and you're like wait a minute what the fuck she didn't steal that body and then you play it back in your head and you're like oh my god the security footage we saw was actually what we saw happen right there she broke the glass she went down guards put their guns on her. But then Hayward said, put your guns down. He cut the footage out at that point. He doctored it.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Motherfucker. He set us up. This whole fucking series is about, like, not knowing what's going on because of doctoring. She does it inside the hex with the show. And she also did it, obviously, with the Mind Stone. And now he's doing it in real life, just the old-fashioned way of just cutting things out and giving half-truths and lying about it. Dick!
Starting point is 00:41:28 He's a dick. I have a whole thing on Hayward later, but I'm going to just say it now. Fuck it. He's on the dick list. He's number one through a thousand on the dick list. I wrote this down. I want to punch that motherfucker in the dick. I don't want to punch him in the balls, which hurts more.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I want it in the dick. I want to bruiseise his dick because he is such a goddamn dick rector haywards i hate his guts so much so i have then i have to then like kind of hit the brakes and say it's a good fucking villain when you feel like that's a villain and he doesn't really do much and he's clearly just trying to do it to rile wanda up it feels a little little like agatha too where he's trying to get a vibe of what she's actually capable of too. So it's just, oh, I hate that motherfucker so much. So I haven't thought about this in too in-depth yet,
Starting point is 00:42:13 but I mean, like it could be obvious, but so he didn't, she didn't take the body, but he says in front of like a lot of people, including Rambo and Jimmy Woo that she did is that just for them is he just lying to them is he lying to like everybody in that room how deep does this go you know because most of sword probably needs to know they're building you know during that time that he's saying that they're still rebuilding yeah um the the new white vision that we see at the end and they're gonna like you know power him up so is that just to trick rambo and like why that's the first question we have we could skip ahead mike
Starting point is 00:42:50 sullivan said i feel like the big question is why is hayward doing this why does he seem to hate wanda so much he threatened is he threatened by her because he doesn't know uh who she is is he just a sus dickhead is he gonna play a big part in Phase 4 going forward? That's all we don't know because the post-credits scene would show that many people from S.W.O.R.D. clearly fucking saw this guy. Did these guys not watch Age of Ultron? Stop building super bots. It's very dangerous. It was another question we got. Who sent this one in?
Starting point is 00:43:22 Alex Schwartz said, why did other avengers let hayward obtain vision's dead body like how did sword get vision's dead body from wakanda at the end like at the end of infinity war i guess it stayed there so maybe the other avengers that actually survived were like fuck i don't know give it to sword they'll know what to do with tony stark's not here right now so he doesn't know what to do with it and you know like the half of the world has been erased like i can see it just being chaos and it's like well i don't know like wakanda just had their king evaporate like you know and and you know you evaporated too so it's not like you have the person who was working on the mind stone yeah and like i mean like with respect to wakanda like you you have to think of this as like a real world thing where sword like
Starting point is 00:44:06 nobody is supposed to know that sword is like bad yet you know so it's like i mean it's a government agency so it's like you have to you know but it's sort of be like the department of homeland security everybody wants to think like they're always have our best interests at heart and they probably don't they're probably doing some sadistic too so i think that they get their hands on it because they're like well this is what we're supposed to do i mean isn't nick fury heavily involved in it it's like well yeah trusted nick fury we didn't think he was a bad guy you know but it's a corrupt organization at at some levels you know i think it'd be interesting if they could make us feel a little something for hayward where it was like he's just like well i'm trying to be the good guy. Like, who is it? Is it the general who is basically, like, carrying out the Sokovia Accords,
Starting point is 00:44:47 where he, when he says, listen, if I misplaced two 30-ton nukes, I'd be in trouble. You know, so Hayward is like, listen, we got this thing here. I have to rebuild it, get it under control so I can, you know, potentially protect the Earth. And, but again, it's like, did you not see this movie? Like, we literally did the movie already. You you can't you are not ready to control why are we building these parks who's putting these parks up i'm just gonna say it because no one no one's pussyfoot around it or they don't want to face the truth here that's a fucking captain america job captain america or bruce banner were in wakanda my guy 20 stark was across the fucking galaxy fighting against thanos in his home court he was in thanos's home planet and almost had him
Starting point is 00:45:30 taken down before that goddamn asshole starlord fucked it all up that's cap or or because i know robbie's a cap guy banner banner had his hand in the vision banner has to have one of those two we both know they didn't get snapped they're both there i understand like you're just looking for people at that point you're like all right where's bucky you know they just disappeared you're trying to like fathom the snap but yeah the fact that there is three billion dollars worth of vibranium that someone from shield could get from across the wherever they were it's kind of a fucking problem i'm with you guys on that it's a pro especially you saying banner like he was there he knew how dangerous vision was he was definitely there for age of ultron he saw all of it so banner should have
Starting point is 00:46:08 been on top of that we're gonna leave my guy steve rogers out of this he was born in fucking what 19 fucking 20 he doesn't know what technology is all about steve like steve rogers is still like what the fuck's going on right now he's like i still don't know how you made that guy i i don't understand how my iphone works and i've been alive since the 80s and this guy god bless him he's like fighting with robots on his side that are you know super weapons so um i would love by the way people are saying you know what if white vision has like james spader's voice i would love if it even like glitched into james spader's voice for a little bit that'd be fucking cool speaking of which i i i so i hate to say this so with vision being torn apart and wanda she's like i can't feel you which
Starting point is 00:46:45 goes back to when she's like all i feel is you and then he says all i can feel is you as she's tearing the the mind stone apart and stuff like that there's no offense to paul bettany who's a delightful man a delightful man great voice great looking guy just has like that like look to him just a guy you're like and vision has some tony stark in him obviously all that kind of stuff who's like can talk his way out of anything, and is just very handsome man all around. I think Wanda's horny for the Mind Stone. I think that's what it comes down to. The way she's like, I can't feel you, is she talking to the Mind Stone there? Because like, the way the Mind Stone, it obviously showed her that look back in the day, right, with the Scarlet Witch vision and all that kind of stuff. And listen,
Starting point is 00:47:21 again, no offense to Paul Bettany, no offense to the vision himself, but I feel like it's almost like a little bit of a mind stone thing. I feel like if any of us touched a mind stone, we'd feel a very like big relationship with it like her. So that could be another thing too, along the way. Touching her mind stone sounds like a very adult metaphor. Yeah, it does. It does. You got to find the mind stone. Yeah. Everyone, everyone looks for it all the time. It's at the top. It it all the time. It's at the top. It's not the hard to find if you're looking for it, but it is hard to find if you don't know what you're looking for. I like that theory.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I like the theory that the mind stone attracted her just like vision did, or, you know, a combination of the two or either one. I like that theory. Clem, she goes to Westview. Now she has the deed to house on her passenger seat, drives to Westview. So sad. He said to a house on her passenger seat. Drives to Westview. So sad. It says, like, for us to grow old in V. Like, oh, fuck. Vision Rwanda. We're going to fucking grow old together in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:48:11 That's, like, my life dream. So it's sad. You know, I related to him. The house is not yet built. There's just a plot of land. She builds it all. She collapses. She starts crying.
Starting point is 00:48:21 She can't believe that this is her life now. She builds this house. An amazing CGI sequence. The way the house is building, the way it was like, it looked glitchy. I thought that was so cool. And then we see her actually like build or create vision. She leans back and this yellow beam of energy comes through her. Vision is created.
Starting point is 00:48:42 It goes into the Dick van dyke show era during this and we see it it appears that she just literally created another vision which chaos magic gets referenced later on in the episode chaos magic in the comics from what i've looked into is quite literally doing this it's creating matter they're like i even the sorcerer supreme dr strange never thought this existed where you could actually create something and have it exist in the real world. So Wanda seemingly created $3 billion worth of vibranium in the scene, maybe another mind stone inside Vision's forehead. We're still skeptical on, like, why did he disintegrate when he left the Hex? Why did that happen?
Starting point is 00:49:21 If he is a real person, if if he is matter if he's not gonna disappear i don't know but this was crazy scene emotional we obviously got the music again was like it climaxed at this moment and they zoom out during the dick van dyke show and agatha's just clapping she's like fucking at a girl you did it the explosion uh so you know what they call was the superhero landing or the superhero pose when you go on one knee wanda had like the superhero um my powers are taking me over when you bend backwards like that like yes who can bend so far i was thinking how did they do that did they have her own wires they had to had to right if elizabeth was able to do that i mean
Starting point is 00:50:00 it's like michael jackson now he had like the the nail slits in his shoes so he could do the lean did she have some kind of slits in her shoes i don't know but during that i watched the episode like three times every time like how did they do that and so the deed is i guess we're led to believe that vision bought that for them which i think in the books they do go to new jersey like that's where they want to build a family or whatever it's kind of fucked up but i thought like imagine a real estate agent just straight up swindling vision. We were like, Oh yeah, like there's this beautiful house there. And he thinks he's buying a house and she like sells them the Brooklyn bridge too. And he has all this money. Cause he's with Tony Stark.
Starting point is 00:50:32 And they just fucking swindled for this old shitty plot of land in the middle of Jersey now. And I, I didn't realize this at the time. So I remember we're going through Westview. I'm like, shit. Like I think I'd rather live in like this fake sitcom than live in like the shitty part of New Jersey that clearly is on top times. But this is post-snap. So post-snap, like the whole world probably looks like that at this point. I feel bad. I also felt dotty i think we might have saw her but there was no dotty for no dotty and we didn't see her uh she didn't get like an id when they were saying hey this person is clearly this from that she also didn't with agatha missing persons maybe oh yeah i like what you said about the real estate agent swindling vision like that fucking
Starting point is 00:51:20 guy's nose don't work so he couldn't smell the mold. He's a robot. So when would he have bought this? This would have to be when they're on the run, like after Civil War, when they're living together. Because where do the – You're right. They run to Scotland by a pretty word. Where does like the – what is that, the Dark Order? What do they call the –
Starting point is 00:51:43 Yeah, the Children of Thanos. The Children of Thanos. Yeah. They're in Europe europe aren't they scotland i think yeah and yeah so but you know they're on the run so they could be everywhere so maybe somewhere along the lines he visions thinking like when all this settles down yeah we will just try and disappear into new jersey um and then yeah i got that vibe of um remember when um scott lang first comes back and he's like walking around he asked that kid riding the bike like what they just convey very i don't know it's like i guess it's just cinematography like make make this a sad place this is a sad neighborhood and i'm like i don't really even know what makes this sad but i got
Starting point is 00:52:20 this real sad vibe and it's just sort of like, yeah, this is, this is just the world after the snap. Fucking an end game. They're like, how do we make a sad, make New York sad? Oh, let's just show where the Mets play. Those motherfuckers. That's a city field, man. That'll get the people real depressed subconsciously. Also, Agatha motherfucking Harkness, why are you using your chaos magic to make breakfast for dinner? Breakfast for dinner is fucking awesome, Agatha.
Starting point is 00:52:45 That's definitely how I would use my chaos magic. I make breakfast for dinner. I feel like I'm the king of the house. The kids love breakfast for dinner. I love it because it's easy. Everyone's fucking happy. If I wish I could be the Scarlet Witch, that would be my – exactly what you said, Bob. That would be my power.
Starting point is 00:53:01 All right, so we think she creates vision. I don't know if he can go inside the hex do we think she actually created a mind stone because chaos magic like that is 10 out of that's 100 out of that's a thousand out of 10 chaos magic if you're creating infinity stones i think maybe that's why he he couldn't get through the the border of the hex maybe it's like she because he didn't have the genuine mind stone or because it was like a synthetic mind so how like uh the sith they use like the genuine mind stone or because it was like a synthetic mind stone, how like a, the Sith, they use like the synthetic kyber crystals and that's why their
Starting point is 00:53:28 lightsabers are red. Maybe it's like in synthetic mind stone is similar. All this talk about New Jersey, by the way, is just making me wish that we got a Sopranos episode where vision was in like a Velvore suit, trying to fit in, doing an accent and shit.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Not a sitcom, but we're in New Jersey. Like, come on. Imagine vision being like a herb. Can you pass the Gabba ghoul? doing an accent and shit. Oh, man. That would have been awesome. Not a sitcom, but we're in New Jersey. Like, come on. Imagine Vision being like, uh, Herb, can you pass the gabagool? Hey, this guy got a Cuban circadian fucking mind stone in his head. Yeah, even Pietro would have been right at home
Starting point is 00:53:58 with that Jersey accent. I am sad that we won't get, like, I just want more parodies. I know, we're not going to get any more. And, like, going back after this episode is definitely going to just want more parodies just I know we're not gonna get any more and like going back after this episode is definitely gonna make the early parodies even sadder like it's gonna give them that tone of like oh fuck
Starting point is 00:54:12 this is like what Wanda's actually doing just to stay sane but this is also like and it speaks back to the whole like you know where the what the writers are willing to tie in from like real world philosophy like so she, did she bring vision back or did she just create a vision?
Starting point is 00:54:31 You know, like, is that really vision or is that just her creation? You know, all this stuff. I don't think it is vision. I think, I think it's a create, just based on like what he knew when he was talking to Darcy, he didn't know the end of his life, what he knew in the first episode where he's like, I can't really remember anything before right now. That's where like,
Starting point is 00:54:48 I had this early theory that like, it was already someone else, you know, and, and Hayward had put somebody into that body. And that like, turns out not to be true because you're like, I felt like they were kind of heavy handed in that.
Starting point is 00:54:59 She can't bring people back to life, but then, you know, she is like a nexus being, so she probably can if she wants to but what are we going to see what what is the writer's decision with this are they going to say is that going to be the gut-wrenching moment at the end of the the season where it's like listen you you feel like you're losing this but you've already lost it it's you know i can
Starting point is 00:55:19 see agatha being like he's already gone this is an illusion that you've created you've lost all this and oh by the way your kids aren't real either and that's where her having to actually destroy the vision again and go through that again you know what i mean if she could go through we could just mirror that scene it's like poetry it runs i don't like that at big country philly said it's gonna be so sad when she has to kill vision again and i just got it was like probably like four in the morning i was like oh i got like a stomach ache from it like if they bring back yakety yak if they bring back the the wedding song i've been thinking about that since the first episode like man they're gonna bring that back and fucking rip our hearts out of our chests
Starting point is 00:55:56 with it that song is not supposed to be sad it's not supposed to be sad so at this point we're at the end of the episode wanda hears billy and tommy crying out for help she runs out of agatha's basement into the street now we see agatha harkness in her full glory she's in her full witch costume she looks like a witch with the you know the cape is kind of draped and it's ripped and she's holding billy and tommy hostage i guess with her magic beams that are choking them and she reveals to wanda hey you're using chaos magic i didn't think this was possible you are the scarlet witch please stand by episodes over and you're like motherfucker at this point i know many people thought the same thing that i did
Starting point is 00:56:38 because i got tweeted by people i thought she was gonna say you are a mutant i thought that was like oh my god she's a fucking mutant her calling the Scarlet Witch, first time ever hearing that in the MCU though. Pretty cool. Put chills on my arms. I was like, all right, she's the fucking Scarlet Witch. Here we go. Leading into the finale, I'm down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:54 God damn it. I really need to see that. She also looked different facially too. She did. She looks completely different. And I don't know if like, it feels like the kids, she could like let them go or take them away. But I feel like she's like doing this to prod Wanda, whatever she's doing.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And again, that goddamn please stand by screen coming through. Also, I have to ask this. What the fuck was Monica doing that entire time? She was at the base. She's there. They went through like fucking Wanda's entire life and then they're outside. And all there is, is Fiatro there being you know snoopers gonna snoop what the fuck are you doing uh oh maybe he took her hostage or something that's that better be the case because i'm telling you or maybe maybe they're plotting together i don't know if like the
Starting point is 00:57:35 spell is broken is he a good guy right now or i'm watching this new show is actually a glennie balls recommendation it's not new um it's 11 23 63 james franco he plays a high school teacher he goes back in time to stop the jfk assassination it's on hulu it's very good it's one season i would i would definitely recommend it but when he goes back in time for every year he spends back there it's only a minute in our world so maybe the whole time wanda was looking through her past there's only only like five minutes. True. Okay. I also wish that that first door going to Wanda's childhood would have been sick if they had – it was Boo's door from Monsters, Inc., like a little – Pixar.
Starting point is 00:58:14 It's a Disney. We were saying during a club, we thought they were going to go through the Thanos door. We thought we were going to see the big T-man this episode. I need to see the T-man. Someone put this on Reddit. I saw there was like a quick glimpse of something at the old westview and it's something about snap it was like a like do something in a snap and anytime that the s words used that's the team man they're talking about big purple i need big purple by the end of the step so i need yeah it was it was a billboard
Starting point is 00:58:38 for the lagos paper towels and it said like clean everything in a snap. And, yeah, that's – two things about that with Agatha and the kids. It looks a little like marionettes, like puppets. Like she's controlling them on strings. And, too, we talked about this last time I was on, but Master Pandemonium is, like, this weird, obscure bad guy that kind of ties in with Mephisto, but his arms are children. It's just, just like the most disturbing thing you've ever seen right it's actually them right and it sort of looks you know her she's
Starting point is 00:59:11 you know it's not her arms but i think this is sort of the way that marvel kind of references these things without being too freaking weird you know it's like okay so hints there but not necessarily like you know tying everything directly to mephisto or anything like that before we get into our post-credit scene let me ask both of you guys do you think agatha harkness is our main villain for this show or do you think in the next episode it's still going to be revealed that she's working under someone the whole time or with someone i think it's going to be her i do think if they i think there's a chance they reference someone i think whoever they reference would be then tied into a doctor strange or
Starting point is 00:59:47 another kind of movie or show or something like that. I don't think it's going to be like, you know, we're going to get the Bowser, you know what I mean? The final boss of the video games will be showing up. I, I don't, I think that there'll be somebody else involved in some way, shape, or form, but now I don't think this is all like just because i don't think that there's enough time in the last episode to like i don't know though they did they did just
Starting point is 01:00:10 like throw dormammu in at the end of doctor strange so it's not like it's impossible but and that's a pretty unique battle too i like that battle i feel like she is like it's weird because she doesn't necessarily have any malicious intent like she was trying to figure out what's going on. She's obviously willing to strangle two children, so she's not a good person. She's definitely not a good person. Now, what happens after this? She's like, you are the Scarlet Witch, and I must take your power from you, or you must use that appropriately with great power.
Starting point is 01:00:42 What is the Spider-Man line? Great power, great responsibility. So it's's like are you just uncle ben here like what what are you but um i think that rabbit's got to be somebody and i think that she definitely has darker connections um and whether or not that gets revealed it's there's two like completely different storylines going on like okay so hayward's going to attack but also does you know i would expect wanda and agatha to have like a big confrontation but you know i think all that needs to be white vision right maybe you know because like you said there there's hints of agatha not being completely malicious especially in this episode she has moments with wanda where you're like are you well like why are you trying to
Starting point is 01:01:24 figure this out is it for a good reason is it for a bad reason is it you know like what's happening and just revealing that she's just trying to figure it out like she's not i i could i was like you know my early theory was that monica needs help to get over her depression and that one um agatha and mephisto or agatha and Nightmare conspire to help create this hex. And they're the ones manipulating everything for their own gain. And I was just like, no, she had a, she had a breakdown. She made all this and Agatha was interested. So she comes in and now obviously you've seen her suck the power out of other
Starting point is 01:01:56 witches. So you have to think, okay, like sus list, we're not going to give you a pass on this, but at the same time, it doesn't mean you, you haven't been manipulating anybody you haven't held an entire town captive that's our hero this is your king this is your king our queen is who's the bad guy here so i don't really know um but i do expect them to tease something and then i i do think that this all leads right into the multiverse of menace but the multiverse of menace is going to be i think so deep and confusing in a good way that I think that what they're just going to reveal is that,
Starting point is 01:02:30 but I don't know if it'll be a being that gets some shine, you know? And this is going to be the interesting thing about Agatha too. If you really are concerned about, you know, Wanda, how she got her chaos magic and how she uses it, turning her two kids into some demons hands is not going to be a good
Starting point is 01:02:45 thing for anybody involved with chaos it's going to be a fucking hex the world's just become a hex like planet earth is just one giant hex which you know we thought it was going to grow it's already grown once we could see it growing you know exponentially because of something like that but agatha's true intent here could kind of decide the way this this whole thing ends up absolutely and what we've heard about dr strange just teasing it for everyone is that originally it had horror movie vibes they were like this is gonna be the scariest movie that marvel's ever put out and it's being directed by sam raimi who everyone you know comic book wise knows from spider-man but he's also the guy who made the evil dead movies and the guy who made that terrifying dr octopus surgery scene in spider-man 2 so it's like man we got a guy behind this we might make nightmare fucking terrifying or mephisto
Starting point is 01:03:30 or whoever it may be i'm with you uh both of you guys in that i think maybe we're gonna get someone revealed next episode but they're gonna save that person generally for dr strange in the multiverse of madness i also hope that agatha sticks around for dr strange or even the phase four going forward because i think agatha's just so good people have compared her to like she could be the loki of this phase where you bring her back all the time sometimes you want to root for her because she's like actually funny and she's got cool powers but most of the time she'll be just like a devious fuck well the the character has ties to the fantastic four so like i think that there's got to be you know they send their kids like everybody loves the actress like you know now
Starting point is 01:04:10 she's she's just been so good in this that it's tough to think like let's let's not reuse also marvel like they bring everyone back come on they got to bring agatha back you said it perfectly bob too i was sorry i almost rubbed me i was gonna say exactly what she said though, though. She reminds me, I think, in this, at the end of the series, she's going to be the Loki of the Avengers movie, where the Thanos, who's behind it all, Mephisto or whoever it may be, that person will be revealed. But, like, Thanos didn't come in and, like, do anything during that Avengers movie, right?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yeah, we just got him in the post-credits scene, his little smile. I also didn't realize this is the same actress that plays the sister-in-law in Step Brothers. She wants to fuck, um dale john c riley i'm scared of that woman more than fucking agatha harkness herself that chick is crazy she's awesome her moment in that movie where she she's talking to him in the bathroom and then she just walks over lifts the dress and starts peeing in the urinal is so fucking funny she is she's hysterical in that our post-credit scene this was huge this was shocking we see white vision go online he's got blue eyes he's got kind of blue features all over himself i very much expected white vision to look like he did at the end of infinity war
Starting point is 01:05:18 just with maybe a reconstructed head just like the gray but he looks more like mr freeze here coley had my favorite tweet of 2021 when he just said ice to meet you dash vision i died at that oh my god what killed the dinosaurs d.i sage i would love for vision to walk in with arnold's voice next week oh no give me paul bettany's voice but it's the same awful awful puns but it's such a voice saying it would completely melt your mind it's it's white walker vision let's call what it is it is yeah it's fucking disney if you guys really want to like make us love you just redo fucking game of thrones the last season like you just change the names a little bit and just make him like the night king and then we could have a
Starting point is 01:06:00 good fucking throne finale and everyone's happy we got our white wandavision wrap up we got our game thrones wrap up and everyone will fucking buy disney plus for the rest of their lives just because you did i was saying to coley that uh you know maybe it was kevin feige's origin story his superhero origin story that he was so excited for batman and robin as a little boy and he went to go see it and then he came out so disappointed he's like i'm never gonna make anyone disappointed by a superhero movie ever again and now he's getting to mr freeze finally um i don't i hadn't heard a lot of speculation did you guys talk a lot about white vision i think it's like a very obvious thing i know we didn't really talk about it but i think he had us all thrown off by thinking that there
Starting point is 01:06:39 was only one body yeah and that it was in the hex and how would he become white vision but so nobody speculated on it um but it's you know in the in the comics it's similar they've died they've brought him back but they just he has no memory he has no nothing it's like he's like very much robotic like he's not human at all right right and i guess that's just like and maybe uh hayward can control him or obviously like it's gonna be, and maybe Hayward can control him. Or obviously, like, it's gonna be like, Hayward thinks he can control him and can't control him. And he's just gonna try and destroy. I don't know what the conflict like, what's the is it? Does it get to a level of like, I mean, obviously, Dr. Strange has got to show up, right?
Starting point is 01:07:17 I think he does. Yeah. This whole town has been taken over. And then it's been expanded upon. Like, this is a fairly big deal, dude. Like, you're in what like lower manhattan at the sanctum and it's like right across the river is this giant glowing hexagon like get out there dude um but i don't know if hayward now is sending him in to destroy everything there because if it's like they're going to try and destroy the hex maybe they endanger agatha maybe agatha needs to join on that side and then so then now we've got wanda and from the teasers wanda and like wanda's manifestation which we've agreed is not really truly vision both like this is our home we have to defend it like home alone like i've got like a they're gonna set up little kevin
Starting point is 01:08:00 little kevin vibes um but you know that, her – when you really think about it, when you get deep with it, it's like her just being like, I just want to stay in my fantasy. It's not a real home. Like, those people need to be free. That mailman needs to be able to go back to his pizza delivery job. Like, Wanda, are you – I'm talking to myself. Is Wanda the bad guy here?
Starting point is 01:08:19 She's a bad guy. Next episode, they should reveal that, hey, Wanda's the bad guy for Doctor Strange. She's the main villain for that movie. That would be mind-blowing i love the theory though that hayward is in the early stages of creating sentinels and that is why he changed the name of sword to sentient weapon and it's like sentient weapons you're making sentinels and you're making vision and now he looks like we've said all season he looks like the kind of guy who would fucking hate mutants hate the x-men be like you know he would testify before congress to get these guys out of here is he creating sentinels because holy fuck what an intro to those that would be and sentinels i believe are always in like the distant future right isn't that always like a
Starting point is 01:09:00 world i think so fairly far out that like they don't you know they're in it a lot but they're not like really it's always the days of future past style storyline right right right and it's always in a in a timeline where like basically mutants are extinct because of things like sentinels yeah but yeah like the early version like if they if if that if his um if that body of vision somehow turns like a purplish, you know, like the earth of the first Sentinel. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Throws somehow.
Starting point is 01:09:31 You're like, oh, fuck. But, you know, their job is to get rid of mutants. We don't even have mutants yet. I know. We don't have mutants. Yeah, yeah, we don't have mutants. That's why I say the early stages. You probably have to save it for something,
Starting point is 01:09:40 but maybe this is going to be what we look back on in three years. Right, and I'm sure the backlogs of these comics somewhere have told the early stories of mutants, but like you forget, you don't really know that you were, you, you were plopped into a world where there's a Wolverine and there's a Cyclops and there's all these, and professor Xavier needs to help the kids because they're usually ostracized. But like, what was the first move to be like, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:02 we don't call them mutants yet. We're only just learning about this. But Hayward might be like that forward thinking guy who gets paranoid and goes, Whoa, whoa, whoa, we better build a super robot to destroy all these things. Like, okay, dude, calm the fuck down. And if they're one like example of what a mutant is, is Wanda. And they're like, look what this chick did to these people, these innocent people in New Jersey, and then whatever she does causes mutation, or it's a multiverse thing where they come in, whatever it may be. And then he's kind of on the other side of being like, I threw this white vision in there to fuck them up and whatever he ends up
Starting point is 01:10:30 doing. I do think that could be kind of a way to kind of just like, they kind of have to fast forward button on this, right? Like we're going to have to already wait like years for the X-Men to come out, but they can't, you know, we already said, Magneto's whole backstory has to change too. So they're going to have to kind of gummy things up along the way. And I could definitely see, I mean, Hayward plays the hateable guy perfectly. He's a dick.
Starting point is 01:10:50 That's all he is. He's a perfect dick. I feel like if I see that actor in anything else now, I'm just going to hate him. It's like the Joffrey effect of like, fuck that guy. All right, before we get into the sus list and the final questions, let me just ask you guys one final time before the finale, who do we think is this big cameo? Because right now, with everything that we saw in the last episode, I'm leaning on Doctor Strange.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I think you're right, Brendan. I think it's going to be Doctor Strange coming down, and they're going to have a big confrontation maybe with White Vision, and that's how Bettany got to work with him. But I'm going to put my money on Doctor Strange. I swear to God, if it's fucking Bettany, if Bettany working with Bettany, I will – And how are you thinking? I'll rebuke him. I'll rebuke his ass. And I really like him. I like, I loved him in the shows. He's really grown on me and I love how he was so cool with both KFC radio and lights, camera bar school. If he pulls that fucking trick on me, like this is,
Starting point is 01:11:36 we don't joke around right now. Tom Holland, you too. All your little fucking cheeky Spider-Man things. Those weren't fucking funny guys. We're not nice. We're in a very fragile state right now after the last year of shit we've had to deal with so please don't do that stuff anymore um all right so you're gonna say cumberbatch too i think like i thought we were shooting for the moon with magneto and all stuff i feel like cumberbatch three episodes ago i've been like that's kind of a bummer it would be fine now i'm gonna go big picture here though and the email last week i'm gonna go pacino with nefesto it
Starting point is 01:12:06 could happen why the fuck not let's get weird with it so i'll go patina i think the i think bettany mistimed how he said this quote a little too early if he said that like one episode ago and it's like oh but we've had so much time to speculate on it that now we're like kind of frustrated but him you know a week ago saying, Oh, it's an actor I've always wanted to work with since I was a kid, like myself. Okay. Like I've always wanted to do a double, you know, like I never understood how to do that. Like, um, kind of like Lindsay Lohan parent trap, you know? Um, but, uh,
Starting point is 01:12:39 and then I, I think that the Cumberbatch, I think Elizabeth Olsen's quote, um, that there's a Luke Skywalker moment. I think she means that like, it seems like all is lost. And then the hero who we all need comes in and saves the day. I, I hope I don't want them to be too heavy handed. I thought we were going to get Mephisto by like the penultimate episode. And then there was going to be time to build it out. Now I don't want it rushed, but i do think it just heavily influences it said you know somehow she gives us the tragic moment
Starting point is 01:13:10 where she's like you know those are not your children they're pieces of the dark dimension they're pieces of you know like because in the comic books they're like shards of mephisto soul she hints at something i don't know if you see the guy um maybe you get that thanos turnaround moment or something like that maybe they hint at it and then she loses the kids and maybe you get that thanos turnaround moment or something like that maybe they hint at it and then she loses the kids and that you know triggers a house of m style breakdown but then again the whole the confusing thing is that far from home is actually has already happened and it takes place after this so you know that the world doesn't really like collapse in on itself but in far from home um they reference the multiverse so maybe something's happened
Starting point is 01:13:43 that allows the general public to have a little bit of knowledge about the multiverse so maybe something's happened that allows the general public to have a little bit of knowledge about the multiverse so maybe like you know there's this moment in new jersey where where you know it comes out where it's almost like um a conspiracy that some people have even yeah like that's how people heard of it and then that's how uh mysterio was like oh yeah i'm from another multiverse yeah and maybe like dr strange is gone because he's been pulled into the multiverse so people are talking about it people are like jesus we just got back we just got the snap undone and now i gotta worry about like the potential collapse of the multiverse but when mysterio is talking about it and tom holland
Starting point is 01:14:17 kind of knows about that he's like oh you're from the multiverse so i think something like that goes on but yeah in terms of the cameos, I think Bettany was talking about himself. So I don't really think that there's a reason to think. You do think Bettany was fucking with people? I think he was. I really think he was. I think he's talking about acting with himself. I'd be like that guy that said he was going to the Mets.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Who's that fucker? Trevor Bauer. Every time I see that, everyone says he's good for baseball. Every time I see that guy, I just get annoyed. Stupid vlogs, the stupid Mets stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I hate her now. His thing with Noah Syndergaardah cinder guard i'm out i was gonna love anything about him except his stupid twitter presence and i hate it that's my guy rob rob is he coming for our side i appreciate that bob um we got two questions two questions left because we answered some of them as we as we progressed first one from alexei he says what the hell is up with dotty what are we getting out of dotty next episode is she gonna reveal herself to be a good guy and maybe she was you know that was a big twist the whole time is she gonna be along with agatha a witch maybe maybe she they're working together the flowers theory right they had flower different color flowers in their yard what's up with dotty i just think now i'm like i just don't know if there's
Starting point is 01:15:25 enough time to feed like to really spend on dotty it's very it's a very strange thing that she was just like blipped in and blipped out but i mean i do think there's something there i just don't i just don't know if it's gonna be the way she didn't trust wanda in that episode is fucked up i think there's got to be something there the way she's's like, I don't trust you or your husband. Yeah, I agree. I just don't really, I can't really come up with a real big theory. If she's the key to everything, that's how fucking George Lucas
Starting point is 01:15:51 talked about Jar Jar Binks. You know how much he loved Jar Jar Binks. Darth Jar Jar is real, no matter what anyone fucking said. Darth Jar Jar is real. Probably, this is my opinion on Dottie. Dottie is number three on the sus list this week because it's sus as fuck what's going on.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Whether it's a missing persons thing, some sort of the, the yellow magic we talked about her hand getting cut with the blood coming through in color. The way she acts, a lot of the lines she has towards Wanda about, you know, getting a blood stain,
Starting point is 01:16:19 a housewife getting a blood stain out of the rug or something like that. It's all sus. And it's like, they're not just going to leave. That's a big breadcrumb to just leave unpicked up. So Dottie is number three on the sus list. Very sus. Very sus.
Starting point is 01:16:31 She's got to be the missing person, right? Unless they just drop that. I can't see them just dropping that. Right? But who else could it be? Speaking of missing persons, let's just call it what it is. I missed the shit out of Agent Wu this week. I missed that.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Who do I? Yeah, I missed Randall Park. That guy's a fucking man. Let's get into the sus list and then save the last question to close the podcast with because it's very much kind of an ending question. So let's get into the sus list. Okay. The sus list
Starting point is 01:16:57 has shrunk a little bit because I mean at this point I fucking was calling some poor pizza guy sus. As any suspect list would when narrowing things down. Let's be honest. We've had the pizza guys who don't belong at Susless. We've also had a few pizza guys who belong at Susless. I think any pizza guy could agree with that.
Starting point is 01:17:14 That's number three is Dottie. Two, Quicksilver. I don't know how you got the superhero agent with a heart of gold to not do anything to the witch that was throwing Wanda around downstairs. But there's something off with this Quicksilver guy. I don't, I'm starting to lean into that. He's the beekeeper that she could just kind of take and,
Starting point is 01:17:34 and Agatha could kind of just do whatever she wants with him because whether, I don't know if she pulled him for the multiverse or the chance, she just kind of changed some random dude who got, you know, thrown into the mix. So I'm going to say Quicksilver is too on the sus list list i don't know what's going on he seems a little sus still but i don't like he's just a complete fucking question mark number one on the sus list we've mentioned
Starting point is 01:17:51 it the rabbit fucking eating birds or flies whatever the hell's going on he's like best friends with the literal witch that's making all this shit happen um and again i'm a rabbit guy too i you guys know bird as a bird fan. My parents used to have a little family of rabbits, and I would just sit out there and just stare at the rabbits. I'm a big rabbit guy. I feel really bad saying this. I had to mute Billy Football on Twitter because he's been tweeting all his fucking rabbit meat.
Starting point is 01:18:19 And I used to have a pet rabbit, and I love rabbits. And every time I see rabbit meat, I'm like, listen, I'm not a vegetarian, a vegan. I'm not saying don't eat meat. I just get sad when I see it. Don't eat rabbit meat. Don't eat rabbit meat. You can say it, Rob. Don't eat rabbit meat i'm like listen i'm not a vegetarian a vegan i'm not saying don't eat meat i just get sad when i see it don't eat rabbit meat you can say don't eat rabbit don't don't eat rabbit meat they're so fucking cute eat chickens or something little fun fact about papa club my dad he was a kid and he was just like outside you know he had like a pelican or something shot a rabbit and that was like it like like scarred him for life like he was done with guns at that point you know all this kind of stuff and it really got to him and i think that's probably where my love of rabbits came from my dad's empathy towards them as a child blended to me and now they're like my favorite things in
Starting point is 01:18:52 the world so i do not take any joy about the rabbit being on the sus list yeah especially after sparky by the way for you to put another pet on the on the sus list after sparky it means they gotta be real sus damn it a fucking rabbit and now that you say that i feel really bad but come on if if sanger scratchy's just her fucking pet that just eats carrots in the corner that's like really fucked up what she like did with him like yeah talking to him too it seemed like boots let's be honest but isn't it weird to think there might be like this big dramatic scene where we like flash to the rabbit and he like morphs into a demon. You're like, Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:19:28 That's true. It's like the animal book back in the day, or you can flip through the pages in the corner. It shows them evolving. And you have a, you have another list for us as well. Right. A list of one. List of one, the dickhead list, dick rector Hayward. I hope I want to punch you in the dick, you're a dick.
Starting point is 01:19:45 I hate your guts. I hate your dick too. It probably is a shitty dick. I hate you, Hayward. I hate you, I hate you, I hate you. I will never be a Hayward fan. You know how I became a Thanos fan? I can assure you I will never be a Hayward fan.
Starting point is 01:19:58 That's reassuring. That's reassuring to hear as a guy who had to watch you go down that dark path with the big purple guy. That wasn't fun. Especially that he ended up killing my favorite person of all time, R.P. my dog, Tony Stark. I hope we get one of those really good deaths, you know what I mean? Where it's either painful
Starting point is 01:20:15 or like a Hans Gruber from the building, something good happening to Hayward. I want to see him die. It got dark here quickly. Let's do our final question. I love this one. It's from Sean O'Keefe, and he just said predictions for the final post-credit scene at the end of the show. Now, there's a lot of ways that they could take it.
Starting point is 01:20:33 They could have a post-credit scene for WandaVision, which I don't think they will. I think they're going to tease a movie here. Are they going to tease a movie or a show? Are they going to show us a quick clip from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier that has nothing to do with W wandavision just to tease that are they going to show us something with dr strange and lead into that movie are they going to show us dr strange pulling peter parker out of his multiverse and into another one because he's like your identity just got revealed it's too fucking dangerous for you here what are we getting for a final post-credit scene at the end of the show for some reason this being a disney plus show on that i sort of lean towards maybe something that's gonna tease falcon and winter soldier
Starting point is 01:21:08 that's coming up in two weeks they want to ramp up the hype for that i think maybe that just as like promo just as like and over here like how they i think about how they showed us like a clip from civil war at the end of one of the movies it was the clip where like they meet up with ant-man i think in that garage or whatever right it's like they just showed us a clip from that maybe they do just hey here's what you're looking forward to i mean i'd be fine with that it's like it is what it is you got to do what you got to do but i i think of that like the post credit scenes the mid credit scenes are part of the show so it's like i'm like finish the show and then send me an ad you know does this happen to you for every time i stop watching once the full credits roll and Ultron just pops up? Like, it's just like, would you like to watch Age of Ultron?
Starting point is 01:21:51 I don't know if that's an algorithm thing. I think it probably has happened to me. Now that you say that, I feel like that's happened. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, I guess you want to watch Ultron. Maybe Ultron was like underperforming. I was going to say, at least watch a movie on Disney Plus. And they're like, we're going to make a whole show just to make sure people watch it run an ad if you want
Starting point is 01:22:07 to run an ad but i would like the post-credits scene to definitely tie into but at the same time i'm trying to be like i expect them to sort of wrap up in the regular portion of the show whatever dr strange does so if it's a tease i'm thinking it'll be because No Way Home, Spider-Man is the next movie to come out, right? It's Christmas time, but I think it's the next one. I think we have Shang-Chi before that. Oh, okay. I can't imagine that's going to have anything to do with this. I would think – I'm kind of thinking it'd be interesting to tie it into Spider-Man.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I think that's what I'd like the best, so I'm just going to go with that. I think so too. I mean, if you had Peter Parker and Doctor Strange in a post-credits scene, I'll excuse you saying Luke Skywalker moment. That'll be pretty cool. I just, I mean, you know, what I'd want is for them to drop like major things.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Like I have this vision of like where we start to see the multiverse swirling and there's just like a very quick brief shot of like John Krasinski as like in oh my god fantastic four thing and then they sweep around like you know you see toby mcguire you see andrew garfield but then you see but then that's like giving away the whole bag so it's like what if they give us like the uh post-credit scene at the end of the first avengers where we just see thanos what if they like mention mephisto in the next episode and then the post-credit scene he fucking turns around we see
Starting point is 01:23:22 him i'd love it i would love it i forgot about the fucking aerospace engineer there are a lot of plans to be fucked right now there's a lot of stuff that has to be handled in the finale right yeah this is my sports analogy basically this is how i'm going to consider it now this is this episode which was a lot of backstory a lot of stuff that has already happened people People call it like a filler, whatever you want to call it. This episode that was like running for it on third down, knowing you're going for it on fourth down. And what's going for it on fourth down bonus episode. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:23:55 So we're going to have a mid credit scene where we're going to get something. And then the post credit scene, we're going to flip the, we're going to take the most hated man in the Marvel universe. The please stand by screen is then going to show up in the post credit scene and it's telling you please stand by because we have another episode coming for you next week 3 10 10 the little heart of the calendar i don't know it means it means a fucking bonus episode's coming that would be oh my god i mean that would be the most amazing thing they could possibly do i feel like i'm going to be disappointed now that clem don't get your hose i know yeah because remember i don't know i know i talked with ellie about this when
Starting point is 01:24:28 we were doing lots of game of thrones talk we thought there was going to be a bonus episode of game of thrones because we were like you can't possibly end the season there's not enough time you have to get through the night king and then you have to do all this other stuff and they were just like we're just gonna have our stuff yeah we got enough time the night king's dead and then we just move on so don't get your hopes up with that stuff still maybe maybe wandavision will reveal the little swirly from game of thrones that was the first credit scene we're gonna fix everything he's like yeah i'm just gonna fix everything across the board we're fixing it listen it's possible with the multiverse we end up in westeros what about eternals they were around back in the day.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Did they fucking know Khaleesi or something? I don't know. Imagine this. Feige ends up fixing Game of Thrones, Batman and Robin. This entire universe that he's created that is a cash cow right now. He does all that. The world is Feige's hex. The world is Feige's hex.
Starting point is 01:25:19 That's what I'm saying. That might be our next shirt. By the way, our Kevin Feige shirt is still for sale. We're getting tweeted pictures now. People are getting them they're getting the shirts they look amazing go to store.barstool sports.com right now if you want a kevin feige shirt looks beautiful and when movies come back movies come back soon they're saying march 15th they'll allow people back in new york you're gonna be the the bell of the ball at marvel premieres wearing a kevin feige shirt people oh where'd you get that that's fucking awesome little you know it's like a you're a hardcore fan if you're wearing that
Starting point is 01:25:48 and we told the merch team listen at least leave these up through like the end of wandavision because i feel like it's gonna there's gonna be like a moment where everyone's so hyped about it i can't promise you how long this is in the store after they do say kevin feige on them so i don't think we own that but my big prediction is i think there will be a mid and a post credit. So I'd say stick around for two. So like, don't just be like, all right, that's the mid. Just watch that shit until you see the little Georgia logo in black and white, the little peach.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Yeah. All right. Let's close the episode. Now that Brennan's here, I haven't said this in a few weeks, but since Brennan's here, I feel like I should say it's appropriate. Please, if you enjoy the podcast, go to iTunes, give us a rating give us a review especially if you've enjoyed the wandavision season it helps a lot for when people search for nerdy shit right we'd be one of the first podcasts to come up that'd be great tell your friends get the kevin feige shirt
Starting point is 01:26:36 get your magic spoon get your bare bottom clothing get your three chi and we'll talk to you guys next week for the final wandavision episode well maybe final. We'll see if we get that bonus episode. You know, Bobby, you know. God damn it. I ruined this for myself again. I want Feige to fix all the sins of Game of Thrones and I guess everything else, like you said, DC as well. God damn it. Please give us this bonus episode.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Give us the Feige cut or the Snyder cut afterwards as well. As soon as this episode airs, COVID officially disappears. Like all cases dropped to zero. Feige did it again. Solves every problem. There goes that man.

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