My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 113 - 'WANDAVISION' EPISODE 9 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: March 8, 2021

Robbie and Clem gather in the Hex once again this week for their final WandaVision recap ever! They share thoughts on the series finale, answer your questions, as always, and tease some big plans for 'Falcon and Winter Solider' recaps later this month. 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Kevin Feige Shirt: https://store.barstoolsports.com/products/kf-teeYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is it. This is the series finale of WandaVision. It will lead into Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, and, I mean, a bunch of other stuff that we can get into. I'm here with Clem. It's just the two of us once again. It's just we're back as a twosome. It's Wanda and Vision here.

Super Producer BC is our wiccan and speed he's kind of like two and one he's our he's our child who's faded away when we close the hex exactly um this was the series finale as far as we know i don't know how they would do a bonus episode after how everything wrapped up however i'm still gonna hold that hope that like there's gonna be a big aha moment um just because why the heck not i am not waking up at 3 a.m for it though i can tell you that much right now if there was some more loose ends potentially out there i might have at least set the alarm i'll probably just wake up at 3 a.m because my body is my sleep schedule is so completely shot after the last year um but i did love that even the uh the name the series finale was the title of the episode i've i think

the titles of the episode is one of the more underrated parts of this series and it's like it's not even i don't know underrated it's even the word for it but i loved how they did because these were all the titles going through film before a live studio audience don't touch that dial now in color we interrupt this program on a very special episode all new halloween spooktacular breaking the fourth wall previously on in the series finale someone that just loves tv you you hear all that that is like perfect you know those are really good yeah we interrupt this program too being the one where they actually like interrupted wandavision like that's the first one where we see outside the x that's really clever yep i i love that the on a very special episode got me too because that was always and that was the one when quicksilver arrives oh yeah it was always like the

really serious one where it had like the psa before or after the episode and you felt really weird that these like um uh like your your, like, got serious around you. That's what, obviously, it's the 80s episode when Vision and Scarlet Witch start fighting with each other near the episode, so you feel kind of weird of, like, what's going on here? So I did love how it said the series finale. So, yeah, we're all wrapped up. There are – we'll get deep into everything.

I think we'll be very fair on the finale both as a show, on the entire basis of a TV show, as well as what we built this thing up to in our minds, because again, the redditization of TV and, and theories and conspiracy theories. I think the way the show will be remembered either right off the jump or long-term was definitely formed by that. If they had given us all these in just a big Netflix binge dump, we'd feel a different way. Right.

Then we do after waking having a week to dissect every fucking thing about this show, which God damn, we sound, if we go back to like four episodes ago, we sound like fucking lunatics. We're like, all right, it's got to be either Patrick Stewart stewart or ian mckelligan which one is it is it one or the other like oh my god all of our theories so let's i think the the best way we could go about this is let's talk about us watching the episode for the first time right off the jump we watched it at three in the morning we did the wake up for it on my i'll

probably put out some clips later in the week if you check our twitters of like our reactions to certain stuff because we did a zoom call. So we have the reactions. I think our initial right off the episode take was that was really quick. It was a lot to take in all at once. And it was a little underwhelming for the both of us. I think, would that be accurate? Very accurate. My first note I had written was i

feel like we've jinxed we jinxed wandavision because the two episodes were like hey let's just um get on a live stream and record our reactions just in case anything like in case you know magneto does show up right i want to have our reactions to it live and those last two episodes was kind of like it was a recap of like wanda's life excuse me and then obviously this last thing which didn't have it's a huge aha moment other than maybe the the post credits uh so I felt like we might have jinxed it so we might put that keep that in our pocket uh for the future I couldn't figure out why I was like I was like there was just something off about it other than obviously like all the you know no Mephisto no XMen, all this kind of stuff that, you know, shooting for the moon.

And our boy Jeff D'Lo said it best. It was a pacing thing. It felt like they could have done two episodes worth, just the loose ends that were clear loose ends that were going to be wrapped up. It felt like it could have been a two episodes worth of stuff could have been, you know, used to do it. And I compare it to Danny and King's Landing in Game of Thrones, which you never want to be compared to any thrones in any series is like if they had shown her go from literally someone who was being lifted on people's shoulders as the breaker of chains and this savior to just

being this woman that just burns millions of innocent people spoiler to anyone who hasn't watched game of thrones i guess uh yeah it does seem it felt like a pacing issue i feel like they could have done all that it wasn't even an hour episode and I listen I don't care about the timing and stuff like that in terms of numbers it just felt like they could have given us they could have made things a little cleaner I guess is the way I put it I agree and I want to make it very clear I didn't dislike the finale and I don't even think I would go as far as saying I really didn't dislike almost anything about it for the most part say 80 say 80% to 90% of the episode, I'm down for it. I liked the ideas they were going for.

I liked the theories they were putting out into the universe. I liked the things they were introducing. I just wanted all of them to have a little more time to breathe. Like you said, like Jeff said, for a show that started pretty slow, it finished very, very fast. There were a few moments in the episode where a second watch really helped but i didn't know what was going on at certain points i didn't understand the first time we were watching it the agatha wanda fight scene i didn't really know what was going on with

the town at the time are we still in a sitcom at the beginning of this episode are we not um so if everything would have had a little bit more time to breathe even like a few more minutes at the end i always think of them sitting on the ambulance at the end of Die Hard. And it's just such a perfect like wrap up for the movie, right? All that stuff. If we would have had that type of scene with Monica and Wu and Darcy at the end, give us like five minutes just to tell us in a news clip how long it had been in the hex since wanda started keeping them hostage give us someone from the hex giving a news camera an interview where it teases that as wanda's flying away from rescue just a few more minutes and i feel like i maybe would have felt a little more satisfied from it but i do think on the second watch we got a few tweets and saying you know what on the second watch when you know what you're watching for when you know we're not getting any crazy oh my god spoilerific reveals that you know you wouldn't believe it is better and i just watched it again for the second time today i do agree with that i thought the second watch was smoother

i thought if i sat down and put on episode one and did a full watch through of wandavision it'd probably play much better i think the people people that, like you said, didn't dive into Reddit like it was True Detective every week are going to have a much better time with that finale than, say, we did. Yeah, and I love that you brought up the diehard ending of how it all went, too. Like, when they say, you know, Darcy's not one for debriefs or whatever, she just left. Well, I feel like no one was there for debriefs like they didn't debrief us on the show I feel like that

we earned a debrief after just the first two episodes in black and white which was like chewing nails for a little bit and we're telling everyone hey it's gonna get better this show hit its stride I feel like episode four to seven right as like at the end of three when Monica gets thrown out we get the monkeys from From that part, going to episode seven and then we're like, holy shit, we got Quicksilver, we got, you know, Agatha. Vision kind of knows what's going on. All that kind of stuff. It just felt like a completely, like

they were really churning. And again, whether or not we were going to get those big aha reveals, it would have been sweet. I'm fine. On the second rewatch, so I watch it with you, then I watch it with my wife later that night. And I was like, oh, this is like, it's a pretty sweet show. It's fucking, the visuals are awesome. And then when you're like, oh yeah, this is like the MCU.

And this is, these are two characters that we've known. And they've obviously gone through their shit. It was very cool to watch. I actually got a DM from Chris Besnahan. That's a tough name to say. Bresnahan. Bresnahan. We're going to say Chris Bresnahan.

That's probably it. Hey, Clem, just want to give my input on Wendovision that nobody cares about. I had no interest in the show at all, yet listened to you and Robbie discuss it, and I got into it. As a casual viewer, I absolutely love the finale. I had a bit into the hype leading up to the series. I'm wondering if that is the difference. And I think people that either, you know, binged it or just didn't, like,

go through all the different loophole rabbit holes, theories, all that kind of stuff, I feel like it was a much more enjoyable show for them in the end i saw there was a thing on uh i think right it was like people who binge are like who the who the hell is this mephisto guy you guys keep talking yeah it's so off the radar you know what i mean and i think what i think there is a chance down the road mephisto could be tied in but i think it is a little, like, crazy and weird to be throwing a devil in there. Just the way they took Lady Death out of Infinity War, that would have been very, like, heavy for, like, Marvel. And then you have Lady Death just in the MCU. It's hard to do that with kids.

I mean, this China shit with they don't like demons in their stuff, all that kind of is a whole other thing. So there's a lot of reasons why I have no problem with them just skipping all that so this was this was a lesson for us this was a lesson listen trust the feige hashtag trust the feige we always trust the feige we even the feige has like has to is a is a victim of the redditization and the crazy theory like stuff that all shows that have this you know weekly thing are going to be subject to whether it's game of thrones uh true detective and then even you know marvel stuff so uh and this is the other thing too and we'll get into the the timeline of how this wasn't supposed to be the first mcu content marvel had for us after endgame right

it's just the way that corona hit, it kind of messed up everything. This would have been the perfect little nugget in between whatever the movie that was going to come out. Maybe Eternals and Doctor Strange, right? I think it was Doctor Strange and then the Shang. Or Shang-Chi. Shang-Chi. I think it was right in that range, though. So this would have been actually a pretty dope series.

And I am happy the way I think the first two episodes were kind of blah, but I do think three through eight, or even through nine, were surpassed my expectations. Now I said, the show I thought had a low floor, but a high ceiling. And I think it was somewhere in the middle there. I think if we had gotten all these reveals,

it would have hit that ceiling, but I don't think it's anywhere near the floor. I think it was very well done. And it made me care about two characters that I hadn't cared about really i mean i don't think i was i think if i go back to the infinity war uh rewatch that we did i think i was just shitting on vision the whole time it's just being like i definitely didn't care about him before this like i thought it was fantastic it was a more fun journey than it was a destination but but that's, I made the reference to you like Stone Cold Steve Austin. I enjoyed watching him chase the title more than I watched more than I enjoyed

him watching him have the title. So, and I was always fine with that. It's he's still one of the goats. He still will look back at his, we'll look back at his career and be like, he was the best WandaVision. I'm going to look back at, I'm going to rewatch it many times. And I'm going to say, this is a show, like you said, that made me care about two characters that I never did before and by the end of this one god I was you know really they they had a heart warm like a heart uh like a tearjerker is a heart toward the heartstrings yeah one of those moments and a

great like uh it's great homage to tv too like anyone who got into any of the tv whether you were into the oldies the stuff in the 80s the 90s and then even like the more modern stuff too i kind of just loved how it kind of scratch all the dishes had us going with the commercials and this is the other thing too we've learned this from marvel this stuff the stuff from this season this show can come back in future movies or tv shows and it may not be stuff that they plan on doing now but like hey listen like we kind of left a loose end in one of us we kind of tie it together and then we're all going to be sucking fuggies dick as they tie like he's been planning this whole time and he's like no we just came up with it one night on like margarita night we thought about it we were drunk so there's still plenty to be done from all this

stuff so settle down everyone i think the reaction immediately after was a little crazy but i think it'll mellow down now that we've had a few days to breathe. Again, we're in the middle, you know, we've been quarantined for a year. We're losing our minds, but once it gets nice out, we start going outside more and realize that this show wasn't supposed to be like the main event. It was kind of like the last dance with Michael Jordan. We were like relying on every Sunday for the goddamn, like just a little bit of new content in our lives. It felt like this kind of got a little bit of that, but I'm happy. I had in the end we had fun right i had so much fun even just doing this podcast speculating week to week like having that in the marvel cinematic universe now is awesome and like you said we would have had dr strange a month later i have a feeling they're going to pay off a lot of

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And this was the official show of 3G. It did kind of live up to that and the hype in terms of just like taking our brain in places we never thought it would go. Oh my God. Can you just, just like go back to episode one and be like, oh, by the way, you guys are going to be 100% convinced that Magneto or fucking Professor Archie. Oh my God, I know.

What? What the fuck happened in the 70s, man? All right, so we get our Marvel intro off the jump, obviously, and we go right into where we left off last week in the street where she said, you are the Scarlet Witch. This is the second after that happens. She's still got Tommy and Billy hostage. She's still got tommy and billy hostage she still got him like you know puppets on a string as brendan said wanda goes my magic works out here

agnes goes oh i'm counting on it she basically tells her i take power from other witches and i want your power then wanda just hits her with a fucking car she throws a car at her name more iconic duo wanda and throwing cars at people we see the wizard of oz type boots of agnes like underneath the car nice little shout out there i i think i love this stupid meme so much i don't know why but it's the old leaky thing and you just slap it on wanda the problem wanted slaps throw a fucking car at the problem and it goes away immediately the boots was i always feel so cultured when i understand a reference before you know before anyone else is anything i was like wizard of oz like of course i didn't even know those arachnids boots too i was like did she just fucking kill vision or some like random

person in the house i was so poor ralph is in the house like the fuck and speaking of vision he shows up right here we see in the ref like she's looking at the house she's looking at the car she just threw and in the reflection you see white vision swoop down and you know we know who this is wanda obviously doesn't so we're like oh fuck shit's about to go down she says vision is it really you and he says wanda and he grabs her like he's gonna kind of kiss her he grabs her by the face and he just lifts her off the ground starts squeezing her head like the fucking great khali and he said and i was told you're powerful and this was her acting like her facials in this scene she sold this as oh my god my skull is getting caved

in right now uh kind of like the mountain and and uh what's our face mandalorian what was his name on the show obran obran martell the viper in the mountain in this moment we get uh the hex vision if you want to call him that we'll say white vision and hex vision hex vision swoops in he saves the day he kind of like i don't know if he sent him into a fucking explosion uh like a tnt factory but this thing exploded like crazy i thought white vision was dead for a second and shit begins here really we're off to the races and we're fighting now yeah so we had the wizard of oz reference then again the the game of thrones reference and then terminator vision coming out of the fucking tnt factory that was that was a sweet little uh reference there for weird and there was also something i don't remember what movie it's from but the way he had vision's head on the ground and it's kind of like hitting into the

road um there's some sort of if anyone knows what i'm talking about here it's some sort of a thing and like his head is kind of going away. I can't remember what it is. Hit us up, hit me up on Twitter. If you can, if you know what I'm talking about there, Wanda, she does the whole flying thing where she like, she lifts her legs up. It just looks weird. Does it not look weird?

It just looks a little weird. That's current Wanda though. I feel like Scarlet Witch is going to own flying. She's going to just, you know, this is kind of like suburban house mom you know well what i kind of love was she spent 90 of the finale and the final fight scenes in like sweats and a hoodie yes that was extremely like the most relatable thing i've ever seen a superhero do in my life like fucking yeah good for you you'd be comfortable sis uh she says in this moment this is kind of this is one of the first things that I don't want to say I had an issue with, but I just went like, oh, we're, it's just, we're doing this already.

She says, Vision, I'm so sorry. I should have told you everything and appears to like regret the hex already. Just based on Agnes being like, I can take your power now. I'm here to take your power. She's done in this moment mentally. And she doesn't realize that maybe the kids and vision are going to go away but this just seemed quick to me for her her mind to change yeah because this is the first time we see vision after he leaves darcy right

when he's kind of just doing like the office thing is i can just fly and i understand it was like his last episode was a recap episode but i i thought the same exact thing i was like you give us like a little conversation before all this starts and all that or give it to like a slower progression throughout the battle or something because like we didn't have a conversation between them you know what i mean yeah what there was nothing in that moment that would tell her other than her being a witch and knowing what he may be thinking since she fucking created him that like he knows what exactly is going on it's the first time they've seen each other so that that was the first like, oh, there's something off here. This is the first time the signal went off in my brain.

Like this feels like we're hitting the fast. We're getting George R. Actually, you know what? I almost said George R.R. Martin. No, no. We're getting Benny off in Weiss. I'm not going to throw that. That man can't.

That man, all he does is take his time doing shit. He's still fucking writing the books right now during quarantine where there's no excuse but anything but time um but yeah he benny off i'm like we're getting benny off and weiss again i was that was not a good feeling to have that come back in my life so here's where the mixed tag team matches i'm calling it started we have vision versus vision and wanda versus agatha a classic wrestling dynamic here uh we get a quick monica and quicksilver cutaway as this is happening we see them in the house we see quicksilver's not letting her out so we're like

okay that's where she's been he's been keeping her captive somehow we get a hayward cutaway in this moment our first hayward cutaway of the episode brings jimmy woo on like on to kind of see what he's doing like to brag about it i guess he brings him onto the sword base jimmy was handcuffed and he's like you're not going to get away with this. I'm going to show them the doctorate security footage and whatever. And Hayward's like, nope. The vision they see come up from the rubble will be the vision they think that Wanda tried to bring back to life. And I'll be hailed as a hero for, you know,

being part of the team that developed this. This is sort of the only Hayward like actual motivation or dialogue we got in the episode, which I guess his motivation was just he wanted to be like he wanted to get the credit for bringing the vision back online and developing him as a weapon for sword yeah the whole like tracking the vision is he gonna is he trying to get the one in the hex to to come out and i guess it was all misdirection this is the other thing because this this is what bothered me about the way everything wrapped up too we get the end jimmy woo gets into the hex at the end and we'll go into that and or gets in the westview at the end i was like all right and that's the episode and i needed to

hear more about everyone and hayward for one and then just kind of wrap it up with jimmy in in in westview about kind of what had happened and i don't know if they're going to do that in other shows it just felt weird by the way sword like, the worst protocols of, like, how does Jimmy Woo just steal a phone by going behind his back? That was really quick. I do appreciate the magician shit where he's popping out of handcuffs. You've got to give Jimmy Jimmy. Jimmy Bluffs, too.

I mean, just talking, he's looking him straight in the eyes. We used to throw Quantico around. I don't know what Quantico is. Is it San Diego, an FBI base? I think it's maybe San Francisco. I don't know. Quantico is I'm not is it San Diego an FBI base I think it's maybe San Francisco I don't know yeah I'm like oh shit Jimmy we're talking Quantico oh watch out watch out Hayward um and also calling someone named Cliff that sounds very official if you're telling if you're calling someone named Cliff uh Quicksilver his entire life being revealed

because he doesn't go who doesn't go paperless billing in the year 2021, 2023. And he just says, I mean, I guess like Ralph Boner, that is a Ralph Boner move right there is to not go a paperless billing, but we get like kind of like a boner joke. And it was just, uh, that doesn't even come yet that they tease that even for later. Like they showed us, that's why I was leaving more like, damn, they, they tease Quicksilver and Monica here. Something's going to happen with them.

And then like what we wound up getting, we'll get to later. But yeah, Jimmy Woo, I loved in this entire like sequence. I want that X-Files show with Jimmy Woo and Darcy. Like people started making the campaigns for it throughout WandaVision. They were two of the best aspects of WandaVision in terms of like taking characters

that were side characters that people liked and making us actually love them i you know as you mentioned it the show crescendoed as they crescendoed too because they weren't in episodes one or two and by episodes eight and nine they were irrelevant and it's when the woo stuff got come got you know combined and handshaked with the stuff going on in the hex that's when i feel like the show was really clicking and it's you know i'm not a jimmy woo standard i i'm a jimmy woo stand i am come on we're jimmy woo stands now oh what it is i mean especially after i heard the guy dropping bars and shit like that um was he on wild wild and out yeah wild now yeah that's crazy man it's fucking jimmy jimmy woo what a fucking guy uh it does feel like the show lost a little bit of its

soul when he wasn't around. It's like even just hearing his name in the, is hearing his voice on the radio. And then it's, you know, it obviously hit and then he just kind of disappeared. So he actually does break out of those cuffs. He actually does call Quantico, even though he was bluffing before. We cut back to Wanda in town square. Everyone's sort of acting normal at first. They're walking past her as if they're maybe still in the sitcom, or maybe they're just being told to walk around we don't really know what's going on here agatha shows up she's above this billboard and she says the the dark hold has a chapter devoted to you about it the dark hold which we discussed previous weeks is you know the book of the damned

it's this evil book made of dark magic and she she says, the Scarlet Witch is not born. She is forged, which I think leads into that Dark Phoenix type idea we discussed last week. And maybe this will be the MCU's version of telling that story. I think we're still leaning towards that. She says, you have no coven. You don't need a coven, which made me think you don't need the Avengers. Like if who is the Scarlet witch is coven her group it's the avengers maybe that's you know a little tease towards that and she says your power exceeds that of the sorcerer supreme this is dr strange and your destiny is to destroy the world i think that's obviously a huge dr strange to tease that entire monologue everything about it from you don't need no coven,

you don't need the Avengers anymore, you have more power than Doctor Strange, you don't need him anymore, and then your destiny is to destroy the world is a warning. I think Doctor Strange is going to have to make sure that her power doesn't get out of control to where that happens.

I think we have questions about this, but I think it's entirely possible we begin that movie, and Wanda is maybe the villain for the first half of it before she realizes that the damage of what she's done and has to team up with strange to undo it or something i think it's uh i mean i i heard i read this on red i'm not sure it is uh that agatha they actually let it out you're more powerful than the sorcerer supreme and you don't need any of these people to you know lay

you down for more check your local theater available April 25th 2020 and it's like well they had to edit that out because obviously COVID happened and they couldn't release Doctor this was my biggest takeaway uh the ending the way we have and knowing we're getting Doctor Strange in a week or two weeks would have been so fucking awesome it's just such a shame that it ended the way it did so uh the whole like like you said they're very heavy with the source of supreme stuff destiny to destroy the world would you if someone said what your destiny was would you want to know would you like it's almost like finding out like how you're gonna die like do you want to know how you're gonna die it's a good question because like hmm i think the die thing no i don't i don't want

to know how i'm gonna die that would terrify me with the anxiety and stuff that you know but if you want would you want to know your destiny i'm not sure i think i kind of would me too because i kind of want to know like am i on the right path here and my path isn't doing much right what if someone because what if someone told me like your destiny is to like be a be a great warrior one day like well i'm doing something wrong then or something's gonna change in my life very soon or you're gonna destroy the world like how do you handle something like that see that one is tough if that's my destiny i don't know if i want to know it i gotta like take some 3g after i hear that after i hear i'm gonna destroy the fucking

world um it was a it was a real tough look with all the the village people walking around and again they were kind of like sims at that point you weren't sure who was really like tapped in or not exactly at that point this is where i needed more time because at that point they're all walking around but i'm thinking in their minds are they still playing roles in a sitcom or is westview just now not a sitcom world because she shut the show off but it's just a simulated world so it's like kind of what it was before but nobody has control of what they're doing nobody has control to leave maybe i'm not really sure and agatha gives us clues as to this because she snaps dotty out of it and dotty runs over to wanda and she's like hey wanda i have a daughter and maybe she could be

friends with your kids like we could do a storyline about that. If that's something that you would like, she's just been in her room for so long. Please let her out. I would just love to give her a hug. And she's like crying. And Wanda's like, no, no. You're like, you're making her say that. No way.

And she snaps everyone in the town out of it. They all run up to her and they're all saying, we feel your grief. We feel your nightmares. When we go to sleep, we have your nightmares. Please, if you're not going to let us go, just let us die like some dark shit and i loved all of that we talked about this a little bit on the lights camera barstool breakdown but i think the idea that when everyone in that town

went to sleep they had wanda's nightmares and they felt her grief that's some fucking hardcore metal shit right there like that's clever writing that makes me feel for the townspeople that makes me realize the depth of what wanda has done so i liked it i just would have liked more time in this scene i would like more time into that because that's the sort of stuff that makes wanda realize oh shit what i'm doing is wrong and it eventually does you know agatha says like you have the power to stop this why don't you just stop it she kind of chokes them freely she like has a bunch of grief chokes them accidentally and that says fuck it i'll close the hex um but man that was a it was a cool scene i just wanted more of it the the stuff when like

you said when they were you know i just want to see my daughter or you know tell them don't come back or just kill kill us if you can't let us out like that was the moment where like when i heard that thanos like snapped away the dogs of the universe too not just the people i'm like oh he's not really as he's even a worse guy than i really he's doing worse stuff than i can really uh like to admit as a thanos fan and again i i love wanda that was tough um it was also tough just every single person that i basically said was the devil at some point in the last like month and a half turned out just be a normal person being it was like hostages so yeah it was hostages you're the terrorist you're the terrorist they're like no they

fucking she hans grubered us man you know what you were the gotham police at the end of the dark night that are looking at the the clown guys and they're like they've got guns and batman's like no they're hostages and max you idiots you're the guy that's like take the shot i love it we go back to dark knight and dard everything goes back to our two favorite movies i know you're true um also the mailman saying literally says don't shoot i'm just a messenger they knew what they were doing they knew what they were doing in every single scene he was around whenever something with that he's a fucking good-ass mailman is what he is he's a good-ass mailman he's the kind of mailman we talked about the kind of mailman you want in your neighborhood

you know who's a male the mailman of our school eddie eddie's the mailman exactly such a night like that's the kind of guy i'd love to have with eddie just call hey eddie how's it going and he's always i picture eddie like wheel in the mail too. He's just wheel in the mail, always happy. I picture like when your kids run over, he gives them like a down low. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, it was tough seeing all the people that we were called the devil

were like going through personal hell every single night. And the kids thing, I still like, what did she do with like, if you lock the kids in their room, I guess you just make sure they're fed. I don't, that's the only thing I don't know what's gonna happen yeah i mean maybe we go more into that dr strange maybe he says look what you did to the kids of westview or you know something like that to make her realize that we cut back to monica and quicksilver and here's where we get the boner joke he actually says to her he goes to put like a dvd and he's like you fan of steven seagal and i'm like

that's a fucking very quicksilver thing to say and then she's looking at the mail like you said the paper mail she says you're not quicksilver at all you're fucking ralph boner and he's like huh boner and that's it she sees the necklace she takes it off and quicksilver was a boner joke they iron man three dust they mandarin dust this was exactly that it was something that was very heavily criticized back then this is you know back when Iron Man 3 came out the MCU wasn't in that place where it was now where it's like they do no wrong we abide by everything they put out people were still like taking it movie by movie and man people were upset about the Mandarin thing so they kind of just did it again here they got balls I'm just shocked they did it I don't love that they did. I sort of wish in hindsight that if you're going to do it like that,

they would have brought in someone that wasn't Evan Peters, especially if they're not going to go into it further. Maybe I'll eat my words in a few months when Spider-Man 3 comes out and they go into the multiverse and maybe that actually is someone. But if this is what it is, I wish it was a different actor. It hurts. It hurts. Listen, I don't like not liking boner jokes.

I'm a sucker for boner jokes. The road trip when the gold man knocks over the thing with his boner, it makes me laugh every fucking single time I watch it. This boner joke didn't land. I also appreciated the reference to the Growing Pains boner from the 80s and all that stuff. We were talking about it with Jeff on Lights, Camera, Bar, Schoolstool i didn't realize that frank the tank messaged me a ton about that because i wasn't a growing pains fan and he watched the recap he realized that

i didn't know about it he said that also in growing pains they take in like a homeless kid at the end and the homeless kid is leonardo dicaprio leo motherfucking and i remember like when that character comes in and i was never like oh that guy is going to be the biggest pussy magnet in the planet as we get older and crazy that really blew my mind i like googled it and stuff he looks super young in it and kirk cameron like it's like the head of a church it's really crazy and obviously his sister candace cameron was on full house so yeah i mean alan thick is this uh the father of uh robin thick yeah he's robin thick's really yeah it, there's a lot to take. Growing Pains is basically

like... It branches out to everything, doesn't it? It really does. It's fucking crazy as I just think about it. And then there was the mom and the sister. I don't really know what they had and even the brother. But yeah, it's funny too because back in the 80s, you had Boner on Growing Pains. On the

Cosby Show, you had Cockroach, Theo's friend. And then, yeah, like, Jazz, I guess, on Fresh Prince. Like, I always loved those wacky neighbors, Kimmy Gibbler. Kimmy Gibbler's one of the goats. So, like, if they just hadn't called me, if it was just his name was Ralph something, I could have lived with it. Boner, it's already out there. And, again, don't ruin a Boner show.

I felt like they twisted the knife on us there. I said this on Like Scanty Barcelona. Listen, you guys keep this shit up. Disney Plus becomes DC Plus. If you keep doing this on your TV shows, you got to pay. Either pay it off or don't make it so like you can just draw a straight line between the X-Men Quicksilver from Fox and you bring them into the MCU. That one hurt right there.

That one really, really hurt. There's a lot of ways we can still bring it back. But as of now, especially because he was being quicksilver he had the quicksilver powers in the halloween episode he had it against monica all that kind of stuff it was just a it was just a bummer in the end feige we love you just don't turn the boner jokes on us all right we want to be part of them we don't want the boner jokes done on us vision versus vision continues to happen in the sky bill Billy and Tommy watch it happen from the house where they're safe.

You know, Wanda told them go back to the house. But Billy senses danger. He gets visions of what's going on throughout the town. And he turns to Tommy and says, we gotta go. So as Wanda's opening up Westview,

Hayward decides this is our time. Let's go in. And her family starts fading. They all meet in Town square at this point and she realizes like oh fuck agatha has another great line where she says you tied your family to this twisted world and now one can't exist without the other another like every line out of agatha's mouth in this episode i was like goddamn that was good she had another one later she said same story different century there will always be torches and pitchforks for women like us wanda

when the military shows up and you're like all all right, Agatha is a good villain where she'll actually make Wanda be like, she's the kombucha girl. Wanda's like, I don't know. At this moment, the family starts fading away. Wanda has to choose one or the other. She closes the hex. She says, fuck it. I'm going to keep my family. Agatha pulls more power out of her. White Vision shows up. Hayward shows up. And it's time for WandaVision assemble. They get in that circle in the town square. She says, Mommy, we'll be right back.

Kids, you handle the military. Vision goes after Vision. They start the library fight. Hayward, of all people, just fucking pulls a gun on these kids. He starts open firing, like looks at the two children looks at the twins how old could they be no no older than 11 12 at this point and he's like he's like fucking when you do time crisis and you you you try to make the handgun an automatic yeah i think i have that as 10 year old so yeah 10 11 12 i don't know what it is it's this is

gonna sound really fucked up as i say it as i hear my kids playing upstairs i actually respect him being so fucking evil that he just would unload a full fucking clip on these kids just because like and like a co-worker that he was cool with like four episodes earlier just right it's like still just popping i actually kind of respect like if you're gonna be a fucking scumbag just own it and he is owning the fuck out of it i don't know if you could actually like he is mephisto mephisto's even like dude what the fuck those are kids there um the fact that wanda was almost peer pressure peer pressured and destroying her own world was such a bad look for her too i'm like come on

wanda she's just like playing you she had her your kids on a string now she has you on a string and so i'm happy she closed the hex back up um the hero pose that like you said the avengers assemble thing it like felt very comic booky or comic booky movie uh and then the line your mother and i never prepared you for this but you were born for it that vision says to the kids that was a cool line and it did it did feel like you were what you were like in the middle of a comic book seeing all that shit go down like god damn the hayward i need someone to just do the the black and white picture of hayward's face zoomed in like michael jordan just says fuck them kids because that's that's hysterical uh monica rambo jumps in the way of this when she shoots him and we get a cool effect where we see like the bullets kind of phasing through her um never seen anything like that in the mcu really other than maybe dr strange type stuff when like

the soul will leave a body kind of looked like that effect but billy even catches one of the bullets he puts it down and monica's like i like your powers he's like i like yours kind of a cool back and forth between those two especially i thought back to like captain marvel was the kid looking at the superhero and now she's the superhero looking down to the kid even though the kid is also fucking superhero but there's that same kind of connection vision versus vision rages on in the library and the white vision says i have a programming directive to destroy the vision and this is when hex vision's like well i'm gonna outsmart you here because i'm not the true vision i'm just a contemporary vision i think he calls himself or something situational vision he says something along those lines and they go to this ship of theseus theory where they say if

if they remove every plank from a ship and replace it and by the end if none of the original planks remain is at the same ship or if they do whatever they basically come to the conclusion that neither of them are the true vision one doesn't have the mind stone from the original vision and one doesn't have anything from the original vision just the memories just you know what he has from westview this moment hayward got outsmarted he thought he could turn you know the most brilliant tony stark ai super weapon into just his fucking puppet uh-uh it's not that easy when you have another vision inside that hex you have him be able to being able to talk to himself it's no good this was the one

thing that i think we all agreed in the recap that actually didn't feel rushed that felt like it got enough time and i like the the fight scene just being unique i like when it's not we just defeated him by defeating him you did a more of a doctor strange door mamu i've come to bargain approach i love this um every because it starts out i thought we were just gonna get the physical side they're kind of phasing in and out of each other they're visioning each other basically using which was cool i like the action stuff too i did too i like the action stuff but i didn't think we'd actually get like the deep vision stuff i appreciate that even like the mind stones going at each other and like vision is such a fucking like he you don't really get a lot of vision just fucking shit up in these in the time that he's been around right because they couldn't really do that in infinity war

that's why they had to kind of nerf him by getting a fucking like uh whatever that was what is it a skype or whatever what the fuck went through his body there a speed yeah i don't even know what you would call it sky sounds good i've not i don't know if i've ever heard that word before but it just sounds like a sharp word yeah but it was such a vision thing to do is to have a battle and like was it a library were they literally yeah it was a library yeah i think it was the library where he had the uh like the neighborhood watch meeting in episode two i'm pretty sure it's the same one yes that's when i fell in love with herb oh man i know yeah our guy yeah um the first of all i am going to be using the ship of theseus so much in life on this podcast i'm gonna probably talk bring up the ship with these it's my new checkoff's gun checkoff's gun was big back in

like uh maybe true detective, Game of Thrones time. It's time to move on. I am now using the ship of Theseus. This is the thing Hayward forgot or just didn't know about vision. Like first of all, when you run into the other vision, that vision has Paul Bettany's voice and demeanor about him. So he's like, let me give you the memories. I'd let Paul Bettany basically do anything to me.

Like I'm so mad at him right now. voice what a calming presence yeah he really has it so it's like of course i can't just he's like may i even said it to the fucking robots i know he got consent and you have to remember that he got consent he has and the this is the thing you figured about the vision that is the real vision which ends up being white vision that motherfucker picked up mule near right like he was worthy he was a good dude at his core his computer parts whatever the fuck it is so even though like he was made by this like monster that just unloads a full fucking gun at kids the real vision is still like pure of heart i guess and the fact that he was able to do that i thought that was a very cool way. Because that is, Vision is like the super powerful being

in terms of superpowers, but it's also like as much about his brain and all that other kind of stuff that makes him tick. So I thought it was very cool. We got the team man in a flashback, which was god damn amazing. We did get the team man in a flashback. We saw that purple ass skin. We saw fucking Grimace.

Felt good. Felt good to see him. Don't throw the G. we don't like the g word being used even though he might have destroyed half the universe we don't need to say that i'm gonna make a prediction here about when vision put his memories inside the white vision and vision flies away this is you know we don't see vision after this i don't believe we see him after this and he's just going to return in the future at some point i assume i think when he returns in the future and when he reunites with wanda at some point we'll find out that vision had implanted some of the memories from wanda vision into his brain possibly like i referenced before yakety

yak something about that song coming on him remembering it remembering wanda vision and wanda being like oh my god you remember like our life in the hex you remember a married life that could be their moment to reunite that's just the theory i have that could be really important too if she's like because like about to destroy the world and she's fucking up dr strange and then white vision comes she's like oh fake ass vision like get the fuck out of here and then he says you know take out the papers in the trash and it just like causes her to stop a minute. That's a good point. She doesn't know that the memories are now in that vision at all.

She has no idea. I can't believe we have to wait a motherfucking year for this to happen. CoronaVision, number 1.9 million reasons why this shit sucks is that we have to now wait for Doctor Strange to give us the payoff from the show that should have been like a month later. Instead, we're getting it a year later. No, this was basically just going to be a trailer for Dr. Strange. And we would have looked at it in a much different way.

So it's like fucking Corona, you motherfucker. Did you also pick up on the literary reference they had when way vision flew away? It was actually Charlie and the chocolate factory in the great glass elevator shoots through the seal. That's my way of saying it's like a fucking third grade book but it's my favorite book ever until this day the other thing is what have we learned rob this is a good thing to remember in the comics nobody is ever dead and the dead people are the least dead of anyone because they're going to come back and they're not going to kill them too many other times or they're going to have another version of them always around we saw with vision gamora obviously is back in the 2014 form.

Loki has a fucking series devoted to him. Black Widow comes out in two months, regardless of it being a prequel. She's back in that way. They'll find ways to bring him back. Yep, and I think everyone was going through the same thoughts in their head. You said this to me when we were watching. You said it afterwards too. As this fight was going on, we were like,ul bettany actually it was himself the big cameo he was talking about

paul bettany you cheeky motherfucker this is a lesson to all future actors out there i know you're all listening everyone in the mcu listens to my mom's base on a monday morning the first thing they do don't like just try not just nip it in the bud the aggregators please don't do that to us don't say it directly to our faces too i in the bud the aggregators please don't do that to us don't say it directly to our faces too i think ken jack is never going to be able to recover he's gonna i know ken jack and jeff poor guys jeff of all like jeff is such like a just a happy guy just likes watching movies getting a nice haircut and talking trivia and he just bet me fucking gave him a noogie on his nice haircut oh man oh someone's gonna give jeff a noogie now jeff's noogie

like like jeff i feel he's gonna have a bounty on that hair for a no what did that football player call jeff uh he called him a weenie paul bettany basically called jeff a weenie to his face he weenied him right to his fucking it was agatha all along behind the weenie but yeah i can't believe paul bettany was really fucking with us and the cameo was himself that was part of the thing that jeff said you know you can't get upset about this show not not having cameos they never promised and i agree with that entirely but the cameos were sort of promised like they promised the cameos they said the paul bettany thing there was the luke skywalker moment thing which elizabeth olsen might have gotten a little click baited on but

still we definitely didn't have like a Luke Skywalker moment, but yeah, they just got to be careful with the hype. You can't hype everything like it's end game because everything's not going to be end game. You can have expectations and still get us excited for a show. You just got to find that balance. Exactly.

And I think it's, it's a lesson learned again. This is their first show they've done, right. Where it's not just a movie. And I think they keep things very close for a movie. And then you just have to wait for the premiere and then it's a lesson learned again this is their first show they've done right where it's not just a movie and i think they keep things very close for a movie and then you just have to wait for the premiere and then it's good but to do it for like two months and you know the months leading up to it and all that kind of stuff it is a tricky thing and everyone especially in corona world

where everyone's just looking for anything they have plenty of time and they just want to find some more shit just to like take their minds off the shittiness of life. That, that was tough. Again, I'm a Knicks fan. We do Photoshop's for any single player that has a free agent contract. Isn't it a free agent? Like just might be a free agent like two years and has like a coach that used to, you know, coach him. Like when he was an AU or something somewhere in our payroll, we will believe anything. We were looking at JJ Watt, JJ Watts, Peloton.

It's crazy world out there on the internet right now. So this is just a lesson to who's next. I guess a Falcon winter soldier, like guys don't say anything. That's going to like make us believe that like Chris Evans is coming back, but he's going to be the human torch. Like I can already see us going down this road very quickly. Yeah. All right. So we get one of the coolest sequences in the episode here.

Wanda runs up behind Agatha while she's on the roof, overlooking town kind of looking for Wanda. I think she runs up behind agatha while she's on the roof overlooking town kind of looking for wanda i think she runs up behind her and she does that mind control thing she did to tony stark in age of ultron i believe it's the first time she has done it since age of ultron it's very cool to see it kind of looked very similar they know we like how you know if you just make it look like the scene did in age of ultron you know the fans are going to geek out at that because we're gonna be like it's a reference it's not just her doing it again uh and she brings her back to being at the stake in Salem very badass Agatha looks very scared at first she's like please no no no but then all

the witches come alive and they start chanting that Wanda is a witch Wanda is the scarlet witch of all people she grows this headdress it was kind of like the one that Agatha's mom had. It wasn't like the one that's part of her costume, more of an energy type headdress. Agatha tells her, I want all of your powers. If you give me your powers, I can correct any of the flaws in the spell that you made over the hex, and I can give you a peaceful life with your family. I'll let you have this little weird corner of the world to yourself but i want your power so wandis is fine i don't want him you could take him they break out of salem now now they're both floating above the hex and she starts throwing her powers at at her i didn't really understand what's happening the first time i watched this so i'm glad i got the second watch but it appears

she's throwing her powers at her she's like you can take my power and as she's doing it you know she's also throwing powers at the walls of the hex. And on the second watch, you really pick up on that. On the first, I didn't know what was going on at all, what I was looking at. But Wanda was casting runes all throughout the walls. And as soon as Agatha says, ha, you fool, you took all my power, I could never correct the flaws of your spell. It's going to be wicked and twisted forever.

She tries to use her magic, and nothing comes out. It was kind of like Thanos trying to snap, and there wasn't the final Infinity Stone in that gauntlet. Wanda reveals she was playing possum. She was casting runes all along. Her body looked all grim. It looked like she had the energy sucked out of her. But in this moment, she says, I don't need you to tell me who I am. long her body you know looked all grim it looked like she had the energy sucked out of her but in

this moment she says i don't need you to tell me who i am and she becomes the scarlet witch very reminiscent of what we saw in the mind stone agatha says oh god you don't know what you've done another great tease for the future here uh she doesn't know what she's done she doesn't know what you've done agatha you you fuck this up yeah and let's say what she says to scarlet witch because it is a fucking line she goes this world will always be broken like you wanda that was fucking that was that was fucked yeah it's like in a fight like ufc you're the mma guy right like you still can't fish someone you can't people in the nuts they can't say the world's gonna be broken like you to a girl who lost her mom her dad her brother and the love of her life like five that guy like five fucking

times all this shit um if you can't trust zombie witches who can you trust right i i couldn't believe they they turned around there i'm like girls this i mean i mean this is just a vision it's not actually what happened right it's like they didn't go back in time it was just like the little mind trick she plays um i love that wanda just straight up cucks vision and throws him in a bubble that's when you know yeah yeah that's an absolute just domination move by it's like your wife being like go sit on this bench i'll be back in an hour fuck god damn it um i didn't notice the casting runes thing until the second time either i thought she was just missing her because it's like i had the bigger hand i listen anyone who hasn't watched it a second time and if if you didn't

do it because you were so pissed off of the show that's fine i think you will enjoy it more and it's like it is a visually like pleasant episode oh yeah it's very cool the special effects and all that kind of shit i've definitely like i i've i've uh lessened my feelings of being underwhelmed since the second watch. I'm definitely more well. I'm definitely more well. Yes, exactly. I, I was like the guy from Rudy. I don't know his name. I call him rock. Cause that was the name of the show. I just did the clap when she's like, Oh yeah. Oh, I have the runes up.

Like my girl's a quick learner, right? It was a good one. Yeah. It's a good trick. I was so proud of her. And if you're a witch and you do the little spell casting thing with your fingers and you can't get anything out has to be a top one worst feeling in the world right yeah if this if if roman was a sponsor here i say it's like a guy not being able to get it up in the bedroom or something like that like it's just like i was gonna say it's like the feeling when you like hit your pockets and you're like oh my god i don't have my phone on me where's my fucking phone that's gotta be the witch version of that just like oh no my magic like what the fuck

phone wallet keys any of those things like like we have the dreams about like not like i always go to my locker in my dreams of like high school and i don't know the combo witches have to have the dream of just no powers coming out and yeah fucking shout out to wanda she fucking she turned her into ned flanders she turned out of the ned flanders she did okie dokie artichokey was fucking an incredible yeah so she brings her back to the floor she's now wearing the full uh scarlet witch costume it's the first time we get a great look at it right because we can see in daylight now the the red clouds have gone away there's that great detail in the neck that you sent me in in sort of i don't know what you call it it's the chest neck area it has the shape of the mind stone right in the

middle of it so it's you know it's almost like a choker or a collar yeah like on the collar basically agatha says to wanda like what are you going to do with me imprison me forever or where are you going to imprison me and wanda says right here in westview i'm going to give you the role that you chose the noisy neighbor and agatha says you're going to need me wanda says well if i do i know where to find you a great tease for the future we said last week one of our hopes for this episode was that they kept agatha around that they didn't kill her that they left the door open to bring her back in the future that's exactly what they did here they couldn't have teased uh bringing agatha back anymore, basically.

And like you said, she said, okie dokie, artichokie. She went back to that nosy neighbor spell. Somebody said, where's this question? I want to answer this one right away because we got this from a few people. It was from Jake Penzimas. He wrote it in. He said, how do you think Wanda is controlling Agatha now that the hex is down and where does she live i think wanda probably just cast a spell on agatha in this moment that is good in the hex not good in hex where it's just like she's the nosy neighbor until wanda snaps her out of it that's what that's what i took away from it yeah i don't think we have to be like how does she pay her bills what's

her job yeah i figured like they'll just take care of that and i feel like wanda's magic like she put the whole hex and had every and had a whole town living on it. Just concentrating that magic on one person, now that she's the fucking Scarlet Witch, everything will be just fine. The one question I had was, where is that rabbit? That fucking Senua Scratchy.

There's something else going on. I want to know what's going on in Agatha's house, the people who live there all that kind of stuff that may be something we find out maybe something we don't find i guess it's boner it was the boner people that were living there so i guess yeah so i guess it's just ralph's family or something like that okay so the boners it felt like like no offense to ralph but like a guy who was that little like man cavey attic thing which was pretty sweet by the way i dug it um the fact that i feel like

that's not the owner of the house right i don't feel like oh no that's the kid his parents own that house yeah yeah yeah i would love one of those man cavey attic things one day it's like an underrated man cave is the upstairs man cave i when we were looking for houses like one of the things is i want a place where i can like make my own little man cavey kind of thing and i'm doing it right now from from my basement but uh there was a house i looked at that had like it was over the garage and it had its own little thing i love being able to see like the roof part of it right i think that is what it's like a concave roof or whatever like a triangle roof and uh that is exactly what i thought i was like damn it just feels like it feels like when you're

just in the clouds instead of being like underground you feel a little more like involved in the world, I guess. Reminds me of the opening scene of Mallrats every time. I guess not the opening scene, but it's where Brody wakes up. It's like Brody lives in that attic type where the slanted ceilings, the posters hanging on the ceiling, rock and roll posters, like comic books on the walls. That feeling is just like, that's what i envisioned when i started my mom's basement it's like that's what i want people to imagine when you're listening to the basement that's where me and clem are right now that's your destiny rob you're gonna have that's my destiny

basically yeah just like chilling my mom's basement forever it's pretty pretty good destiny so vision knows it's time now he turns to wanda he's like it's time for you to make things right but not for us right she's like. They go back to the house. The hex starts reducing. And they go back to their normal clothes. As they entered the house, they phased into normal attire one more time. She says goodbye to the kids. This was another scene I could have used a lot more time in,

where it's like the vision scene we got right after this was heart-wrenching, emotional, made me a little teary-eyed in the moment. The kids, she said bye to very, very quickly. And she said a weird line that I didn't understand where she said, thanks for choosing me to be your mom. Did you get that when she said it as she was leaving the room? When she said thanks for choosing me to be your mom, I go, that's not how this works, Wanda, unless there's some crazy chaos magic and that's how you do it. That's what I was thinking. Like, did they actually somehow choose her or like what happened there?

I didn't understand this. I didn't love the goodbye to the kids scene. Cause I thought there was, I liked the relationship between like Elizabeth Olsen and the kids. They had great chemistry. I bought her as their mom and all that, but it was just so quick. It was just like, all right, see ya. Let me tell you what happened, Bob.

As a parent, Wanda got a taste of what it was like to be a parent ready to make her kids disappear for a little while she had a baby for one day one fucking day she had to deal with a crying baby you had to change the diapers and rock them and make them burp and make them mean if they don't any worried about me wake them to know she she'd deal with that for one day she dealt with four-year-olds that can just cause chaos and hurt themselves hurt other people for like three hours she had to deal with 10 year olds for like a few days to have superpowers and can like make trick-or-treating done in like a minute and she was like ah this shit stinks i'm done with it and you know what wanda good for you right there because there's times where it's like,

listen, I love my kids. I do anything. I would do anything in the world for my kids. There is a time where I'd be like, Oh, you guys are gonna disappear for a little while. Okay.

I'll see you another time. I'll use my chaos magic to bring you back. I'm telling you, it makes perfect sense from this side of the tracks, Bob. All right. Fair enough. That's why she took the, she took her time with vision and the kids.

She was like, all right, all right, fucking go to bed, go to bed. She, she made the hex close over their room real fast.'s like and then she just stopped it at the door like they were still talking like mom and then you just see the hex just moving she's like yeah whatever just like doesn't even close the door on her way out so she says goodbye to vision here this part was sad this was such a sad scene and so well done

this was in terms of like my favorite scene in the episode this was it vision turns the light on right right after wanda turns it off and he says i heard somewhere or read somewhere that it's bad luck to say goodbye in the dark and she says no you didn't like you're a liar and he's like true i just wanted to get a good look at you and she's like what do you think she's like and there you there you are. And he says, before I go, can I just ask you, what am I? And man, if Elizabeth Olsen didn't deserve an Emmy for everything she did before this monologue, her line where she says,

you're the piece of the mind stone that lives in me. You're a body I made of wire, blood, and bone. And you're my sadness and my hope, but mostly my love. Oh my God. Give her all of the emmys give her six emmys for that line make her fucking michael jordan for that line give her an emmy for every finger now vision fucking throws it right back at her and he says you want all the emmys won't take it some of the emmys with me says, who knows what I might be next on account of the fact that we've said goodbye before it stands to reason that we'll say hello again. And he fades away.

Goodbye, my darling. What a scene between these two. This was them doing their victory lap on the series in terms of just tremendous acting. They killed vision again. kenny of the mc again you killed vision you bastard i can't believe vision died again even though he knew was probably coming i just cannot believe i need i love white vision i love how he might have a

little bit of the real vision in him i need to to see him die again. And I need to see this vision then come back and get killed. Someone's got to paint that white vision, right? As soon as he becomes good, one of the Avengers has got to step up and be like, all right, let's get you a fucking new coat. You look ridiculous. Is there anyone who's an artist in the MCU or in the Marvel Universe in general? Maybe Peter Parker. He's like a spray.

I'm thinking Queen. You know, it's a shame that Natasha Romanoff is dead because in the time between infinity war and end game she definitely went into sad girl taking up art period oh yeah and like the whole like uh byob like you bring your wine wine oh yeah some ceramics and stuff like that big time anyone who was alive in the snap it's basically because like like quarantine people that's what i thought of yeah they were they learned the banana bread first then they started doing the painting classes they started doing the you know chris evans captain america was trying to rile people up he's like come on guys push-up challenge let's all do 10 push-ups today uh and vision shedding a tear like that like that's when you know you're fucking good elizabeth

olsen is when you can make a fucking robot shed. Like that, that would be like in my Twitter profile, once made a robot cry. Like that's a good one. That's a good thing to do. Like, I guess like being able to create life out of nothing is pretty sweet. And like putting a whole town under my control is pretty cool.

Making a robot cry might trump all that. Right now, I wish I could use chaos magic to create like a fucking Comic-con that was free of corona and we could just all go to comic-con they could show us the trailer for like fantastic four or the mutants or x-men or something that ends with the fucking snip snip wolverine's back and then we could all lose our minds or something that would be my hex inside the hex but it closes now juan is back on the plot of land that vision bought for her in new jersey the house is gone very end game kind of score i noted that when you listen to it very sad

solid score she walks through the town everyone's looking at her they clearly hate her i would have liked if instead of everyone kind of stopping in their tracks and and looking at her she walks through town if they sprinted away from her in fear, screeching, screaming, that would have given, I mean, it would have given the scene a much different vibe. But if everyone was legitimately that afraid of Wanda now,

I kind of would have dug that. And she walks right up to Monica. And Monica's like, listen, they'll never know what you sacrificed for them, which I don't know if that plays to the people of Westview. If you're just an innocent person in Westview and this person took your family hostage for however long it might have been, which I would have liked to figure out that time period. We may someday, but was that a month?

Was that a week? Was that two weeks? Who knows? But man, yeah, it doesn't play if your family in Westview. Like, man, she sacrificed so much for us. What the fuck are you talking about? And she says, you know, if I would have had your power, I would have brought my mom back. And Wanda says, it's okay.

They'll never understand me. She flies away. She says, I'm on a journey to understand my own power. And that's WandaVision. That's credits. I kind of would dig. And she said this a few times how she doesn't understand her power. I would kind of love it if the reveal in the

future is like she's understood it the whole time and she's just been learning and doesn't give a fuck. I kind of want a badass Wanda in the end. I could dig with that, but no, I'm 100% with you. Hey, Monica, we're no longer in the hex. We don't have to be nice to Wanda anymore. We're not all these neighbors like, hey, girl, it's all you.

No, she held these people hostage in a sense, and she probably didn't know exactly what she was doing but she did give up a lot too but it's just kind of tough like you said if they if they ran from her if they were like hissing at her if they were throwing stuff at her you know just yelling stuff that would have all been a cool thing it's kind of hard like she did have kind of like that cool like vibe on she had the hoodie on like totally like i wouldn't i don't think i was ready for lose yourself to kick in exactly she might just fucking roast you in bars you know 16 bars on your ass i wouldn't fuck with the witch that just held the whole uh town hostage but i thought that would have been cool it is kind of weird that like tyrus just threw on a hood and everyone was just cool with it i was like see you

later you know that is very strange my favorite tweets were from q from impractical jokers where he's just like hey resident of westview here please arrest that witch and not the person who tried to save us by shooting at the witches also fake witch children the little demon children yeah what the fuck guys um and this is something that might come out in the future and i'm not sure but like the way it did feel rushed at the end you could tell me that they had stuff they wanted to wrap up on and corona hit and they couldn't maybe they had to just kind of make do with what they had true you could say it didn't happen but i feel like that is one excuse i couldn't use an extra jimmy woo scene i could have used and i could have used like a j a Jimmy Woo debriefing, the FBI debriefing him on saying,

what did you see in the Hex? What did you see outside? Or something simple where he kind of just gives us a recap, just recap the series. Give us a final sentence. Agreed, agreed. We didn't mention this during the thing. I didn't love the Darcy have fun in prison.

I think that works more if you're still in a sitcom instead of being in the show. But I guess it is kind of an MCU and it's a lighter version of it. She's kind of like the comedic relief. So I guess that could work. I didn't, I didn't love that, but I feel a lot better. Like I, Kyle, Kyle Gellin who works for bar school, he sent me a link to a article that I don't know if it's true or not. It said that there was a Dr. Strange cameo that got onto the cutting room floor, got cut. So whether or not that's true, I'm not sure.

But that along with any other- Surprised me. Yeah. And then again, all this, like everything that happened, you know, post-production, they couldn't probably do as much, you know, and do research and stuff because we were in the middle of a global pandemic.

So I don't know what we could have had in the end of it, but that's the series. The more we talk it through, the middle of a global pandemic. So I don't know what we could have had in the end of it, but that's the series. The more we talk it through, the happier I am with it. And especially when I look at it and I say, we would have gotten Doctor Strange right afterwards. I think I went into this, they said there's going to be no difference between the movies and TV shows of the MCU, right? They're going to be handled with the same budget, the same gravitas,

the same importance to the story. WandaVision, in and of itself, was a lot like age of ultron in that it's very clear that this show is going to set up so many things for the future we're going to look back at wandavision in five years we're going to say oh wow it's crazy that they even teased that back then we didn't realize it back then i bet it's like that i was almost expecting a lot of payoff by the end of the show thinking it would be like a movie this is clear now to me that the tv shows are going to tease a lot of the future movies and i don't know if that you know a show like loki maybe may not be the same way that might be its own standalone thing where they do pay off things by the end of the season wandavision as a limited series i think was mainly intended To build the hype for

Doctor Strange and also make us Love these characters in Elizabeth Olsen And Paul Bettany's Vision and Wanda Maximoff And I do think there could be a good Chunk of God willing the X-Men Where it's like these people with powers

It's like you know we went from a world where there was Nothing you know before you know the we went from a world where there was nothing, you know, before, you know, the heroes, right. With starting with Iron Man to now. And then obviously all you know is about these people with these mythical powers, other than the few heroes in the Avengers. It's like the one dude snapped away half the universe. The other chick fucking kept the entire, entire town hostage and God knows what happens with the kids.

And obviously Hayward could end up being the face of the people against that who ends up becoming someone who's against mutants or against any sort of person with powers down the road. And these heroes kind of become like, it's kind of like the Incredibles, right? Where it's like the heroes are seen as the villains by people and stuff like that.

So I do think there's a lot that this is going to touch, let alone the stuff with Dr. Strange that is going to be directly connected and all that. So in the end, I was very, I wanted to know what is your grade on the show? If you could give a- Oh, good question.

Gut Reaction says my grade for the show overall, you know, I'm going to give it like a B plus. That was my exact grade as well. B plus, I think A plus would have been like, because you have to take into account the first few slow episodes. You have to take how you feel rushed at the end. But I do think at its peak,

it was awesome. And listen, whether or not that shit paid off in the end, if like you don't go down Reddit, you feel completely different about the show than you do. If you did, I could kind of like remove myself from that for a minute and be like, I'm happy I did that though. Cause it burnt time when like there was really not much going on in the world and I was stuck inside. I'm pretty content with how it all. And now as it's all done and I feel like where we're going to in the world. And I was stuck inside. I'm pretty content with how it all now as it's all done.

And I feel like where we're going to go from here. And I have this whole new respect for kind of Elizabeth Olsen. And I said about this girl, which character I think B plus is exactly what I would give it to. I'm going to say something before we get into the post-credit scenes and questions here, it's going to be controversial yet brave Clem. I want them to bring Hayward back into the MCU in the future.

He's such a hateable fuck that I think he's going to become one of those characters i love to hate because if they bring him back he walks onto the set of a fucking mcu movie where we're watching falcon and winter soldier or something and he walks on and he's like oh yeah like the government got me out of that or whatever it was a conspiracy created by jimmy woo i would be like this motherfucker didn't get what he's deserved like we didn't get a true he didn't feel like we got one over on the heel in the end and hayward you know what i mean we didn't see him get someone get revenge on him it was just like i have fun in jail whatever go to arkham asylum and we'll see in two weeks i have to co-sign this and again i had him on the dick

list i want to punch him in the dick those kind of reactions are what you need and listen i'd love if every uh villain was as nuanced and crazy as thanos and you know what scarlet witch could be coming all that kind of stuff sometimes you just need a dickhead because sometimes they're just dicks you encounter those people in your life where you're like why are you such a dick like who who angered you in the world or made you such a dick that's hayward you're like what the fuck man but if he comes back we're all gonna be like oh are you kidding me it's gonna provoke that response that reaction that emotion out of us again so i think it's a smart idea to fucking bring hayward back and like again those are the guys that become directors of these giant corporations or giant you

know agencies and shit like that it's the dicks of the world it's the it's the good people that work hard and the reason you know sword became what it is they usually are left at the bottom and they're like you know two steps up the ladder because they're not sucking dick or like backstabbing people and hayward's the guy who makes it up i i'll go as far as this when he started shooting at those kids that's when i knew we're gonna get hayward back because that's the kind of shit that makes you say all right this guy doesn't give a fuck some mvp villain shit that'll get him respected by his villain peers right there this is who he is he's like the uh he's like the opposite of agent colson he's like the anti-colson colson's the most likable dude right like there's nothing that guy did where anyone's like mad he's got the avengers baseball cards the captain

rock baseball oh my god that's just like the most wholesome lovable guy hayward's the opposite fuck that guy okay he probably he probably like wrinkles the corners of his baseball cards hayward hayward takes other people's baseball cards and he puts it in the spokes of their bike to get the sound yeah it ruins them um this is again gonna sound fucked up but it would be funny if every single series hayward's in he just starts shooting at kids and like it never works out it never ends up hurting anybody but like he's just such a sick twisted fuck like that's the moment darth vader became darth vader right the young one yeah this motherfucker just unloaded i just get that was the most shocking part of this episode is he just started bucking shots at fucking children. I don't even like shooting odd job because he's short in gold.

Looks like a kid. He's small. And this guy was shooting at two 10 year olds that are like, they're cute kids. Jesus Christ. Hayward. Unbelievable. All right.

The post-credit scenes. We had two of them. The first of which Monica Rambeau is pulled into the movie theater in Westview. And she's brought up to this kind of director-looking woman. Looks like she's with SWORD or the FBI or something like that. And she turns into a Skrull. And she says, you know, we're inviting you up to space.

I forget the exact verbiage, but she basically invites Monica up to space. You would have to assume maybe with Nick Fury in that base we saw him at at the end of Captain Marvel. Or maybe Captain Marvel herself. We know the actress that played Monica Rambeau in this series is cast in that I don't know if she's cast in Secret Invasion she may be we discussed this on the lights camera bar still break down neither of us trust the Skrulls I know that they're trying to make us warm up to the Skrulls Captain Marvel they cast a nice lovable actor as the main one Ben Mendelsohn who doesn't love Ben Bendo? Old Bendo from Down Under.

The Skrulls just can't be trusted. They come into our world and they turn into us? I don't think so. That's not cool. Ben Mendelsohn. I'm looking him up here. Oh yeah. I like this guy. He usually plays the villain in everything, but he's just like

a lovable villain. He plays the villain in Ready Player One and Rogue One. He's in that show. He was in that show with Matt Damon on HBO, The Outsider, I think it was called. He's been in some good stuff. And he said he's Australian? Yeah. How are you going to fight?

You can't hit an Australian. And this guy is a dickhead in Rogue One and stuff like that. But it's like hard to, yeah. So it's the Skrulls and what's the other alien? The Kree. The Kree. Oh yeah. The two sides. The Kree tries to kill Xandar and all that stuff. Is that right? Yes, I believe so.

Okay. Maybe mixed up with my aliens now. Shout out to Richie because we're getting into that zone of aliens it's gonna get weird i i she has to be told by nick fury right when she says i think that fury that was that was the gut instinct i guess you you can make the jump and say captain marvel but i think nick fury yeah she's he up there and all that kind of stuff she's going to space she's thrilled she's going to space um i i almost i don't want to say i expected it but i thought there was a good chance

once we saw monica and whoever she becomes a photon or whatever i thought we were going to have it whether it was at the end of this or in some other show she was going to get the some sort of a cree moment and then go up there but or i'm sorry scroll again do not trust the scrolls they're not all cheeky australians either they're exactly i liked but i do like that we're going to have good aliens and bad aliens on both sides but i do like that we're gonna have good aliens and bad aliens on both sides but i think that's kind of the cool part of you know i think that's what makes a lot of the shows that have come out more recently whether it's breaking bad sopranos the wire all that kind of stuff levels are great there's no black and white it's just all kind of

gray so yeah um i guess i'm down for it the i i'm always like i never thought i was i never liked space in the comic books in the marvel compost i never cared about it but guardians is my favorite fucking like marvel movies other than the uh the two newest avengers and thanos is my favorite villain and those guys i did not give a shit about when i read the comics so i'll i'll give all this a try i wasn't i wasn't a huge captain marvel fan the movie i thought it was all right and this is someone that you know loved all the 90s stuff but i just thought there was a better movie they could have done with it. I don't really know how to describe it. I don't know if we ever talked Captain Marvel in the pod here.

But I'm interested to see what happens with Monica here. I'm very excited to see where they take Monica going forward. Because I know during Secret Wars, the original giant Marvel crossover where Spider-Man gets the Venom suit and all this, Captain Marvel herself was Monica Rambeau. Monica Rambeau went by the Captain Marvel Monica at that point. And people say that the character was great in that. People really liked the Monica Rambeau character as Captain Marvel.

So I'm excited for that. I like the way they handled her in this show, to be honest, in that I was afraid she was going to play a major factor in the final battle and help Wanda out and i was i i like what superheroes take a little bit to learn how to use their powers and stuff like everything she did as photon in this show is cool with her getting shot and just like kind of saving herself with self-defense i'm cool with i'm excited to see how that character expands in the future and then the real oh go ahead her and her like her backstory is very cool too she got snapped

right her mom passed away her mom was obviously very cool i liked her in captain marvel and she clearly has some sort of interesting issue with captain marvel they don't really delve into it and all that stuff so i i will be whether she thinks you know she caused her mom to get the cancer you know her powers and stuff like that and her mom's nickname was photon we see it on like the name pass or the, the memorial, the plaque or whatever for her. So I do like, and I like the actors too. So all that kind of stuff is good in the show. She feels like basically in that, like the chaotic, good, lawful, neutral,

all that kind of stuff. She feels like basically as good and as like nice of a character as you're going to get, she's going to be basically almost as pure as you can get in terms of like the entire mcu so it'll be interesting to see her go up there i feel like her and captain marvel could have some like real like heat between them and i kind of dig that i kind of want to see how it goes because captain marvel is always like everyone's like bowing at her feet because she's so strong you know what i mean yeah and and she's like the one who knew her as a kid like the chris jericho versus sean michaels wrestlemania 19 like the student who knew her as a kid, like the Chris Jericho versus Shawn Michaels WrestleMania 19,

like the student versus the teacher. I could get that dynamic going. And then we get the main post-credit scene, I would say, the real one that's going to play a factor in the Doctor Strange tease and the WandaVision recap. We see Wanda in a cabin in the mountains. Looks very similar to the Tony Stark cabin. She walks inside.

Camera keeps panning throughout the rooms and we see the Scarlet Witch, basically. I shouldn't even say Wanda because she's in the full getup, sitting like Doctor Strange, kind of sits in the floating manner. She's reading the Darkhold. She's studying it. I assume the chapter that's dedicated to her in it. And she hears the crying voices of Billy and Tommy. Mom, helpy mom help mommy help we're trapped whatever these could be kids absorbed back to their father mephisto this was something that i teased in the lights camera bar still break down but when wanda first started taking the hex away in town square the hex that she eventually put back up and the kids were fading away it didn't

look like they were fading like they did from the snap you know how that was like everyone kind of turned into dust it looked to me like shards were actually being pulled off of the kids in the comics i know that the children are made with shards of mephisto that's the verbiage used so maybe that was a tease there maybe they're being pulled maybe you know they didn't go away when the hex pulled them away maybe they just got taken back into the mephisto universe or the nightmare universe or the scython universe or whoever the doctor strange villain may be the eventual unveiled villain after i think wanda will be uh i don't know all charges against her will be dropped halfway in the movie when she realizes what she's done wrong or something.

But I think we're going to see Wanda bend some rules to get her children back at the start of that next one. Emergency. Awesome. I watch him on YouTube. He does some good recaps and all this stuff. And he was saying how Wanda the cabin and it's in the Wondegore mountains. And he says, this could be a hint that it could be uh kathan could be the the villain all this because that's i guess where i don't i don't know the exact that's the chaos magic that's like the the elder god who created chaos magic or something the god of chaos magic yeah so i mean whoever it is i feel like we'll we'll know it could be the big bad and

strange along with her or along you know know, in a whole different thing. I'm not sure. I find this in every single thing. But with Thanos, I always try to go. I got major Thanos in the garden vibes. Like after he's done picking all this stuff, she was all at peace. And she was even, you know, she had water heating up like he did, obviously, before the Avengers crashed his house and all that kind of stuff. That's rude of them, yeah.

That was very rude. Just chopped a motherfucker's head off in his own house i mean who was really the bad guy some breakfast yeah he's really the bad guy when it comes down to it i'm just gonna say uh and all right i didn't think i was gonna get to this point i thought of this a few days ago i almost tweeted out but i didn't i'm gonna say it on the pod and said let's just give thanos a little bit of credit for destroying those stones. Cause I don't, I can't promise I would have done the same and I can't promise you would have done the same, all that fucking power. And he does the right thing.

Whether the first snap was the right thing or the wrong thing is up for interpretation. The second snap was, you could also say maybe not the right thing. Cause say he was destroying him just to make sure he couldn't undo what he did the first time. He also could have like, I probably would have done some like really like like in the words of um darla like i'm gonna make some weird shit like i probably could have done a whole lot of things with just like one of those stones let alone all of them together so i gotta shout out

my guy there anyway um shout out to i i don't know if that i always look to find some sort of infinity war end game parallels just because i love the man dr strange's music is playing in the background is that confirmed that it is playing in the background i saw some posts about that yeah i think it is and it's like oh well we would have had a movie in a fucking month or so fucking coronavirus um hearing the kids and all that too with i don't know how that goes um i just thought of goddamn hayward like coming into like the netherworld al powell's entire fucking arc is about how he mistakenly shot a kid and how he feels terrible about it this guy hayward can't get enough of shooting kids i can't get over this

it's fucking crazy maybe he's uh maybe we're this is a multiverse thing and he's the father of todd from breaking bad that you know what that that lines up a little too crazy perfectly for me it's crazy so yeah i mean i think if that again you have to put yourself in another world go to a multiverse me if me and robbie can like smoke a cup of some and figure out a way to jump between multiverses. We're going to go to 2020, you know, earth 695 and we're going to go to the earth where there is no COVID-19. And we're going to tell you how this all plays out when it goes from this straight into Dr. Strange.

I feel like everyone gets really excited about all of this. Absolutely. All right, let's get into the questions. We've got four final questions of the season. Stool Center has the first one. All right, let's get into the questions. We've got four final questions of the season. Stool Center has the first one. He says, do you think the events of the Hex will tie into the Loki series at all? Loki and whatnot. I think this is pretty direct towards Doctor Strange, and if not directly Doctor Strange, maybe Spider-Man, because I know that comes out before that, has multiverse teases. Just something in my gut says,

I don't think the Loki, Falcon, Winter Soldier, WandaVision connection will be very strong. Could be wrong, and I do agree with you when you say Agatha and Loki on screen together. It'd be amazing. Yeah, that would be dope. Was Winter Soldier supposed to come out before Wanda vision? Yeah,

that plays a role in it. So I don't think that'll be the case. I don't think they're going to kind of just jam something in. Cause it didn't happen that way. And like trying to figure out now it's like, Loki is in this different universe where like, I don't think it lines up. Cause he's in a different time.

He's in a completely different time. Yeah. Is it technically the space stone or is it the Tesseract i don't know what i guess it's still the tesseract at this point yeah so i think i don't think either that i do think maybe future future movies and shows but that makes a lot more sense but the most immediate ones i don't think we see any wandavision stuff until factor strange basically all right next question from mike sullivan he says what's up with the sword if fury is with them in space then they can't be bad entirely but we saw that they are bad with hayward so is that just a rogue group of bad agents under

hayward or is fury being tricked again a la hydra and shield great question sword is a bit sus right now we don't i assume we don't have a sus list because the season's over but if there were one sword is kind of like i don't know you're on you're on shaky legs there sus list right now i do have a sus list oh you do number one of the sus list unfortunately is wanda because she's starting she's studying the motherfucking dark holes yeah and she's learning a lot of powers and her eyes are glowing and there's the astrophysical version and the physical so i feel like she's like trying to throw people off her scent if they're watching her and then she's like in the corner learning all the dark secrets about herself and you know all the fucking sorcery shit and then number two on the sus list is paul bettany

because he fucking tricked us and that was wrong throw a sword on. Throw a sword as number three because it's a good question. I'll put them at two. I'll put them at two. I'll put Bettany three as a gentlemanly thing to do to the man. That's definitely a problem. It's like, that's the thing is I feel like they're so big, you get bad apples along the way. And that's the thing.

I get so, like, Barstool, we have to throw a perfect game with all our hires because if we have one just idiot scumbag, it's good. Like, if a Barstool guy just started shootingumbag, it's good. Like if bars, if a barstool guy just started shooting at kids, like, Oh my God, everyone at barstool hates, you know, kids, they're going to shoot at them where it's like all these other, like the places that like write about us have little people who have said much more shit like on record. And it's like, where are we living right now?

So it's crazy when like sword is supposed to be protecting us and they have some bad apples that fucking shoots at kids. But it's just one of those things. I think once you reach a certain size, it's like sooner or later, you're just going to have an idiot along the way. So I, I,

I can't get too like upset at Nick Fury for this. It's just, I think right now is group of bad agents led by Hayward. I think you had like a toxic leader in the clubhouse. We got him out. Nick Fury's back. The GM, Steve Cohen, if you want to make the Mets reference, we'll in the clubhouse. We got him out. Nick Fury's back. The GM, Steve Cohen, if you want to make the Mets reference, will make the team better. All right.

Ryan Dietrich says, if Wanda is the only person more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme and she's going off the deep end, what logical explanation can be made of why Doctor Strange never showed up here? A massive magic battle was going on between Wanda and Agatha, and the dude was nowhere to found it's a great question i don't know i think they'll probably have an excuse in dr strange i think he'll say while you were creating chaos magic in new jersey i was fucking with wong trying to do something in thailand or i don't know but that seems like the sort of thing that would be too egregious to ignore so yeah the location thing too they're so close location wise and this is the thing again if there was a cameo that was cut i don't know if that's the case but that could have explained it i will say this and i'm right with you we've been saying right across the fucking river and it's like jersey and new york

like when you say new york metropolitan area new jersey is part of that because it's like everyone commutes there it's that close i will say like when half the universe gets wiped off the map in like and this so strange probably had like three days where he like just like sat down unwinded he probably had to do a whole bunch of fucking like house clean housekeeping because because he was snapped too right so he has to come back he led a fucking battle against thanos he got all of his sorcerers to bring everyone there he gave us that portals moment he probably had a lot of shit he has to come back. He led a fucking battle against Thanos. He got all of his sorcerers to bring everyone there. He gave us that portals moment. He probably had a lot of shit he had to get attended to, not even in this fucking world,

but in the underworld, the overworld. Like there's fucking like Mephisto probably is like, dude, I just was snapped. Thanos snapped my ass. Like there's a lot of shit going on right now. So I'm not ready to like get mad at Dr. Strange. I'm not putting him on the sus list yet. He's sus list watch list we'll put him on but it's like i can't really get mad at him because there's probably a lot of shit that happens when half the universe gets wiped out

that the sorcerer supreme has to clean up the mess at the end of it so i'll give him that much do you think wong moved into his room in the five years that he was snapped in the sanctum sanctorium while he was watching over it no way man wong's a good dude wong knows his place on the totem five years you think you think he just kept that room empty for five years you know what i think there was an awkward thing where they got back and wong was like listen i still got some stuff in your room i'll have it all out by tonight i promise like i'm still moving it back it would be hilarious remember when you were in school and it was the whole rule people would make up they'd be like if the teachers are coming in five minutes like oh yeah we don't like we're done with the class so it's like five years is like the sorcerer yeah so it's

like he moved in and like the next fucking day of course everyone back he's like god damn it he's like and it's like not only that but first you have to get out of the room and then oh yeah you have to like get all the wizards of the world to bring all the heroes of the world to upstate new york to battle thanos and his army of fucking minions unbelievable but i feel bad for one and he doesn't even get to go to the wedding either because tony stark's dead oh man yeah he got the invite yeah you know he was telling everyone about that too like guess who's wedding i got invited to fucking tony stark of all people tony stark invited me to his wedding. The Iron Man. The Iron Man.

He's catching elves. Our boy Wonko has so many elves in this. Yeah. All right. Luke Miller with the final question of the season. And this is a great one to lead into future MCU projects. He said, which characters from the show are you most excited to see pop up elsewhere in the MCU? Lots of great new characters and old ones that just got better development.

There's two main ones for me. They're the most obvious ones. I think it's Wanda and Agatha. I am excited to see Wanda because Elizabeth Olsen really proved that she's a top level actress in this show that none of us even realized she was. She showed, you know, that other emotional side of Wanda. She showed the more powerful side of Wanda. And that's now one of the most interesting characters they've got, I think. Legitimately, like a top five, maybe top ten interesting character in the MCU where I'm like, I'm very, very excited to see where that character goes. Agatha, just as that, basically what I hope her to be,

the Loki of this phase where I want her to come back. I want her to be likable for a movie. I want her to crack the jokes, all of that. Like Agatha should be here to stay in the MCU. Yeah. I mean, I feel like those are like, those have to be the answers that you take away from this one. Unless our boy Ralph, whoever, all right, I'm going to throw a little, I'll go a little outside the box here. Whoever the missing person is from, from Jimmy Woo, I feel like that,

whoever that person is, I don't know who the fuck it is. It could be someone, it could be Agatha for all we know. I'm going to say that person. I'm going to go outside the box on that one. All right, I don't hate that person. Oh, fuck it, Hayward. I want to see if Hayward just starts popping shots at people who, like not only kids, but like elderly people.

It's like, dude, you're really fucked up. Like, thank God. Keep Hayward away from Morgan Stark, by the way. Yeah. Oh, that's. I said, he's like Jr. Smith. He shoots first things. All right. Before we get out of here, ladies and gentlemen, I do want to tease. We will be doing Falcon and winter soldier recaps in two weeks. We're going to give Clem the week off next week.

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on whatever you watch YouTube videos on, your Xbox, whatever it may be. I think this is going to be a great endeavor for the podcast. I think by the end of 2021, we may be bigger on YouTube than we are on Apple Podcasts. I think it's just a great place for nerdy discussion, stuff like this. I watch almost all of my podcasts on youtube i like the visual component so please throw us that subscribe i would really appreciate it we've still got the kevin feige shirts for sale kft at barstool sports.com you can get those for falcon and winter soldier now those are hype shirts those are no longer like wandavision shirts those are

now falcon and winter soldier shirts they double as all that clem thank you for an amazing season of wandavision and i'm excited to dive into Falcon and Winter Soldier with you, the next show. Yeah, me too. Those Kevin Feige shirts, they're also, if you're a fan of Endgame, if you're a fan of Infinity War. Actually, if you don't have a Kevin Feige shirt, you don't like Endgame. You hate Endgame if you don't have a Kevin Feige shirt.

Those are Terminate Cameron commemorative shirts. Exactly. It was an absolute blast, Rob. It was, I look forward to it every single week and we won't do any more rewatches live. Me and Rob, we won't do any watches live for a little while, just so that we don't like jinx the episode of like any potential aha moments. We'll have to live with the reactions not being there, but when they are, they will be on the YouTube page at some point.

Yeah. As I'm an old man i never understood the youtube thing then i got i just i cut the cord everything i watch now is through either my smart tv or the new google tv with my new chromecast and stuff like that and i watch so much shit on youtube now i imagine like the younger demographic does as well i know um kfc has been really big into it and it's it's one of those things that until you like at least for me until you actually watch everything on your smart tv youtube was just a place i go to on the computer to like watch a video or whatever it's completely different and i've realized that so hopefully we'll get some good shit we could chop up some some videos and stuff like that to make it look cool we still have

a lot of plans that need to be fucked i don't know when we're gonna but i think they will be fucked at some point in the future because of our guy, Kevin Feige. So thanks for having me. Also, real quick, Bob, MVP, LVP of the season. I got to hear it. MVP, Wanda. I won't even say Wanda. MVP, Elizabeth Olsen. That was mine too.

LVP. Got to give it to Bettany for teasing us on that cameo. Listen, he did a great job on Wandaavision for messing with my boys jeff and ken jack fucking bettany gets it wanda and vision that in that case yeah exactly it's just like the show i had i had wanda written down i was like no it's elizabeth olsen i i honestly think she has to at least get a nomination for an emmy i don't know the first fucking thing about emmys and i'll tell you right now if i get mad about the emmys like punch me in the face because i promised myself when the wire won like no emmys during its entire run even after it became like just kind of

like got out of the whispers and started becoming more of a hit like other than just like critically and stuff like that it still didn't win shit I was like don't ever get mad about award shows ever again I'll probably still end up getting mad about it I think Elizabeth Olsen is it's like a lock it's an absolute Jeff and fucking loud Sean have 12 Emmys between each other if Elizabeth Olsen is, it's like a lock. It's an absolute lock. Jeff and fucking loud Sean have 12 Emmys between each other. If Elizabeth Olsen can't get one for one division, there's something wrong in the world. That's fucked up. That's fucked up. LVP. I had Hayward down, but I'm kind of starting to love the guy. Cause he's such a villain.

I have to almost respect him kind of a thing. It's really tough here. I guess I'll give it the vision too. You know who is an LVP was Quicksilver just in in terms of like he actually wasn't a valuable player in the end um oh you know speaking of not valuable player there it is lvp dotty dotty it's fucking episode everything i feel the key to everything oh she's this badass who like again i said it in a blog at some point you raise you rise to the top of some suburban mom's circle you have to have literal skeletons in your closet to get to that kind of like get through that fucking game of thrones and the fact she did me a fucking thing after she bled red on my tv all right clem i will

talk to you in two weeks