My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 116 - 'THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER' EPISODE 2 RECAP WITH CLE‪M

Episode Date: March 29, 2021

The Basement Boyz are back to recap Episode 2 of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier! We learned a ton about John Walker (the new "Captain America"), we've got Super Soldiers on the loose, an iconic vil...lain is making his return, and Clem was recruited by the Flag Smashers, all in one week! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com ONE on TNT 1 this Wednesday at 10pm ET/PT!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We were here last week on YouTube, we made our big premiere, and since last week, we've actually been on YouTube twice. So if you haven't subscribed to the YouTube yet, you are missing out on My Mom's Basement content. I just want to start by saying that we broke down our thoughts on Black Widow getting delayed, going to Disney Plus, even the Suicide Squad trailer. So if you're interested in hearing our thoughts on that, head on over to the My Mom's Basement YouTube, subscribe, and check those videos out there, each about 10 minutes. And we're going to do that going forward. It was a Clem idea. So Clem, I'd like to thank you for that idea. It was a great one. You called it ClemTube. I appreciated that. These are youtube exclusives exclusives
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Starting point is 00:04:27 with us everyone through the ad reads so we opened with john walker in his high school locker room this week this is the new captain america we saw him unzipping the captain america suit his wife or his girlfriend fiance whoever she may be walked in and they reminisced on being in the locker room back in the day he kind of looked at his locker. It still had the JW10 on it and she gave him some words of encouragement. His friend then walked in, Hoskins, doing the same thing. Words of encouragement said, you know, this is the job now. You can't punch your way out of every situation.
Starting point is 00:04:58 You're going to have to uphold yourself in a certain way being Captain America. I thought John Walker had a great line when he said, everybody in the world expects me to be something and I don't want to fail them. He actually came off likable, made me feel like a dickhole for everything we said last week. It's just like, damn, this is a good opening scene. And we get the Marvel intro then over a drum line, like over a school band playing. And I thought it was awesome. I love when they change up the Marvel intro even just a little bit. So this variation of it, I thought was cool cool yeah so uh it starts in like the hockey locker room or whatever and as many people were tweeting at us this was actually it happened to be the week that mighty ducks premiered on disney plus
Starting point is 00:05:35 and i think a lot of people were in that conundrum do i go with falcon winter soldier first or do i you know with rim bomb in the fellas and the ladies too and that was a tough one i'm like shit now they're throwing in like so that's some disney plus subliminal fucking subliminal advertising right there because it's right there on the banner you see it too mighty duck so i like how they did that um i went in i think just like you and you're where for the people that can't see for the for you sons of bitches that aren't watching on the YouTube right now, our boy Bob Fox is rocking the Captain America shirt right now because he wants it to be known.
Starting point is 00:06:07 He's an OG Cap guy. He's not this John Walker, JW, whatever you want to call himself. However, I will say this, and I'm with you. I felt like kind of an asshole. And when he said, like this time last week, we were debriefing the guys in Chile for a mission, and now we're here. So it seems like this has all kind of just happened really quickly for him.
Starting point is 00:06:27 It kind of gives you that feeling. I don't know if you saw this. There was this guy in Chile. Apparently he was stealing stuff from open car windows. An old man approached him and punched the old man. And the locals in Chile took the guy, put him to a lamppost, and saran wrapped him to the post let me hit this i know we've had our differences about cap in the past and all that stuff because i'm an ironman guy
Starting point is 00:06:50 but at the end of the day the man's a goddamn hero he's an american hero he's a he's a hero of the world of the universe right john walker's my cap if he was the one who said let's saran wrap this dude to the pole because that was one of the greatest visuals i've ever seen saran wrap is the worst substance in the universe i hate it when it when you just like if i if it's made to like make your sandwiches fresh or you know stuff in the microwave it never works that it folds onto itself and then it becomes tough stronger than our boy uh bucky's arm and it's like impossible to get out so if that plan was hatched by John Walker, he is my new Captain America. If not, I'm rocking with the OG guy, our guy Steve Rogers himself.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That would have been an awesome reveal. It would have been kind of a leap of faith for them to throw that in the show. The other thing I said, that pep rally, we're not political, guys. We're in the politics. I'm actually kind of shocked we didn't have a Captain America in the last couple years. I feel like they would have just wheeled one out.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It was very showy like that. I was shocked he wasn't. John Walker, good guy. Big chin, though. That chin is too big. Big chin. I noticed that as well. Kind of like the crimson chin over here.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. Yeah, it was quagmire almost. I noticed it when he was wearing the mask. And I was like, oh, that's a Jesus-sized chin. And then this entire episode, I'm just like, that chin, there's the chin, there's the chin. I cannot look past the chin. John Walker, this is a problem. The only way I will ever, ever say that John Walker is my Captain America is either, A, if that chili thing comes out where he's surrounding the dude, or B, I need to know if he passed the grenade test.
Starting point is 00:08:21 The legit grenade test that our guy uh steve rogers passed because he says he jumped on grenades that's what the suit on or the help i have to know i feel like any captain america has to pass the grenade test before they become the real captain america walker runs out for his interview on good morning america he's very humble during that he comes off likable again like he's just going on and on with all his credentials all how did a guy like me wind up here and we get his backstory through. All how did a guy like me wind up here? And we get his backstory through that question. Basically they show on like the good morning America cutaway.
Starting point is 00:08:50 He's got three medals of honor. He was in hostage rescue and counterterrorism. He tested off the charts. So it's like, damn, how can we root against this guy? Until he says, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:01 I didn't know Steve, but he really feels like a brother. And we cut to Bucky and it's like, oh, that's how we don't like the guy. Because there's always that last line where it's like, oh, but he really was a brother to Bucky. So it's like, oh, there we go. What do you think about that throw? Yeah, that was a tough look. I mean, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Like, I feel like most Americans at home watching that are like, oh, yeah, that's, you know, like, that's awesome, man. We love Cap. We kind of know we're friends with caps old friends too like that's the thing is the viewers of this you know outside the universe watching it hurts it also hurts that my guy buggy doesn't have couch and i get it you're in a tough spot right now you probably don't have a bunch of money you're living in wakanda like in a hut for a while and all this kind of stuff you gotta get a couch man or at least like one of the folding chairs.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Like remember that meme that went viral where it's like, this is a guy's dream apartment and the chair and the TV. Like, dude, he has the TV. You've got to get the folding chair, man. You're just making us look bad. I understand like couches. You want to go couch shopping? It's like crazy how expensive a couch is.
Starting point is 00:09:59 That's what kept Bob's Furniture alive for all these years. Don't get me wrong. I have one right here. It's the most comfortable couch in the universe. The couch is Bob's. Is it Bob's furniture alive for all these years. Don't get me wrong. I have one right here. It's the most comfortable couch in the universe. The couch is Bob's. Is it Bob's? What was that thing that said Bob's is worth $2 billion? That's the most
Starting point is 00:10:15 preposterous thing I've ever heard. I'm like, but everyone I know gets their couches from Bob's, so maybe it's real. I don't know. I think he actually turned himself into a cartoon or a claymation guy so he could live forever. So there might be a chance. But my guy Buck, like, send us the address. We will send you a couch.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Or, I mean, let's be honest. We're on the bomb's basement here. We'll send you a little folding chair there. I was going to say a futon. Promise a futon. A futon at most. A folding chair with two cup holders. So you throw a cup in one, you throw the remote in the other. And, I mean, it's the least you could do for and that's coming from bob by the way not for me because i will never forgive you not for what you did to howard stark but what you did to
Starting point is 00:10:52 mrs stark where you clogged her nose and you killed her you killed her bucky all right i'm getting i'm losing myself i apologize i apologize i but i again it's it's not that expensive to get a goddamn chair buck come on man i wonder if he sleeps with the arm on i think he did last week when he woke up with the uh nightmare but i feel like i wouldn't sleep with the arm on if i were him i would kind of take it off put it on a fucking rack and then just kind of i don't know i'd be able to like nestle up a little better you know when you're trying to lay on your side and your arms in the way like it's the one pro for bucky maybe that's a cheat code of life he gets to just like avoid that and put arms in the way like it's the one pro for bucky maybe that's a cheat code of life he
Starting point is 00:11:25 gets to just like avoid that and put it under the pillow or like he doesn't have to think about that i mean he was probably a good spooner you know what i mean fucking the the waitress she doesn't know how she hasn't made it the shade or now she just played her battleship right she might have been able to live through that uh that that dream fantasy but i was thinking more of like a lethal weapon thing too like you bonk yourself in the head with the fucking vibranium you could be out out of commission concussion broken nose all day like i imagine bucky's like i mean he has he has a bed right yeah he has a bed his bed is probably just covered in blood from him bonking up and then like crazy nightmares and his brain arms just smashed him in the face so bucky ambushes sam at this point sam is going off on a
Starting point is 00:12:04 mission he sees you know posters of john walker everywhere tours it's like i don't know he seems like a good guy bucky ambushes him though and he says why did you give up the shield you shouldn't have given up the shield they get into this back and forth sam doesn't really want to deal with it right now because he's on his way to this mission he says you're not going to tell me about my rights with your overextended life they get into it they have the three conversation, which was used in some of the TV spots, some of the trailers where Falcon says could be one of the big three. It could be androids,
Starting point is 00:12:30 wizards, aliens. And this was the first scene where we see the chemistry, I think, between Sam and Bucky and how good it was going to be for the whole episode and how good it's going to be for the whole show. It's very funny. The doctor strange back and forth.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And then Sam tells him, Hey, Red Wing has tracked the flag smashers to this building outside of munich that's where i'm going now bucky tags along um i love the scene where they jump out of the plane because they're at 200 feet falcon jumps out after you know they're they're stubborn and getting into arguments left and right jumps out and then bucky is like all right where's the chute taurus tells him we're 200 feet way too low for a chute he's like all right fuck it i don't need it anywhere and he just jumps landing on his arm
Starting point is 00:13:07 but he just when he hits you could feel the impact you could feel the wind getting knocked out of him the grape lady noise that he wanted to be making in that moment uh and sam says you know i got that all on camera right and redwing comes right up over him i thought that was hysterical yeah they're the chemistry between the two is really good. I think of Civil War when they're just getting absolutely just dusted by Spider-Man and kind of the funny witty banter they have amongst themselves. They're getting their asses kicked. The big three line, I geeked out over that because it's like,
Starting point is 00:13:38 oh, you're acknowledging the universe and androids, aliens, and wizards. And I was hoping we'd get some sort of a Scarlet Witch reference witch reference since i mean i guess it's a witch more than a wizard and this takes place after um wandavision right so i was hoping maybe we get like a little you know sprinkling into that obviously didn't happen but i do like how like the world has changed so fucking much in this little fictional world the mcu the last 10 years when basically iron man comes out and all the different bad guys that have risen through it Pucky revealing himself as a straight-up nerd I read The Hobbit when it came out what a flex you could throw on someone that you're so funny the way you said it to be so serious in space I read The Hobbit when it came out in 1937 before everyone was tonguing
Starting point is 00:14:21 Tolkien's balls I was reading his shit you know fresh off the fucking uh typewriter or whatever the hell they used back then um that that was awesome i also like the line of like your overextended life like i feel like there's there's always a few lines you could bust your buddy's chops about and you know you don't go too far you don't be like that time you were you know a puppet for a communist regime or an evil regime and murdered people you save that one for like you know the really fucked up shit. But I like how he, and then like, I feel like they get the back and forth. I think the shield is going to clearly be the point of contention between
Starting point is 00:14:52 them all season long. Can we just admit that Sam talking about Red Wings, just weird. It's just a weird thing, right? He talks about him. Like he's a person who he trusts. He kind of talks about him. Like Han talks about the Falcon or something. And Bucky doesn't trust him.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I figure that's because he's 106 and he just doesn't trust technology at this point. But, yeah, it's the way Sam talks about him. I mean, it's like he's a pet or something. Even when it gets crushed, which we'll get into in a second, Bucky has to say to him, like, I'm sorry about Redwing. He's like, no, you weren't. That was the thing I wrote about. Oh, that's so weird red wing the books i guess was an actual falcon and again like the money of falcons is
Starting point is 00:15:31 my second favorite character of star wars third favorite character and it has that like like gravitas towards it but the like three seconds we saw red wing in the first episode i just felt weird towards it the entire time it's just you kind of have your like if you're growing up you had a kid who like was a certain attached to like it's almost his blanket right i think it's the real thing it's like dude that's not a real thing but again like we if he was a listener he'd be like i listen to you guys on youtube i watch you guys it's like no no that's a podcast two different things like he everything right he doesn't know technology so i do have to remember that it's a hundred plus year old man we're talking to here when he,
Starting point is 00:16:07 but when he jumped out of the plane and that landing, like you said, like you just felt it in like your, your soul. I was, I got up and I started going ECW, ECW. Bucky, he doesn't have the, the cap courage, maybe as much as cap or obviously the signature with the shield or anything like that. He just goes and he kicks his own ass and can get up from it. He's basically the Mick Foley of the MCU. That's what I'm calling him for now.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And I appreciate it too. If we have a little Mick Foley, Cactus Jack, or excuse me, Terry Funk kind of dynamic, Cactus Jack, Terry Funk dynamic between these two, I could get down with that kind of a thing there. But again, I like how it's like there's not a solution here well i guess i could just land on my arm which i didn't realize is that has that always been like a winter soldier thing where the arm is really his be all end all i don't know he's kind of using it like cap uses his shield i think about yeah exactly and you know landing on the shield out the window in uh avengers the first
Starting point is 00:17:03 one so like i don't know i i dig him using it like that especially now that it's the vibranium arm it feels a little upgraded since it was in the first it's not the the mark one suit if you will anymore uh they have their my favorite exchange of the entire episode in the warehouse coming up next where they're sneaking around and sam goes you spend a little time in wakanda and you come out the white panther he says it's actually the white wolf and he's like what but it was just such a mcu comedy line they really nail like the tone of the mcu comedy in this show i thought that was great red wing sees somebody so they go to track him down red wing winds up seeing a ton of people then they get into it about even
Starting point is 00:17:39 that they're like i only see four of them and he shows them on his wrist he's like well red wings he's eight of them and there's a hostage in there as well so bucky boards one of these he sees aaron kellyman from solo a star wars story who we shouted out last week and she smiles at him he thinks that she's the hostage at first because she's kind of a little girl she looks like a little woman she fucking punches him into the truck behind them he gets pulled up by two other flag smashers and then starts getting fucked up on top of this truck. Redwing comes in to save him. Erin Kellerman breaks that thing over her knee like it's a baseball bat immediately.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Falcon comes in for the save. Then he kind of gets messed up too. Captain America now, John Walker and his boy Hoskins drop out of a helicopter. They try to save him. This was an amazing, amazing movie-like action sequence. If the opening scene of last week's episode cost them $20 million to shoot, maybe more,
Starting point is 00:18:32 that's probably what this one was for this week. It was just the two 18-wheelers side-by-side, awesome fights going on with super soldiers. Let me just say, I did not get dizzy during this scene today, so it was clearly a one-time thing last week. I was able to take it all in very nicely. I put it on the new TV and I was like, all right,
Starting point is 00:18:50 like if this is going to be a thing, let me just acknowledge my washed up. This is going to just affect me for the rest of my life. Cause Marvel's only going to dial it up right from here on out. It's not going to get ratcheted down. I was very happy. My wife said that it was almost looked like an episode of MTV, the challenge,
Starting point is 00:19:04 like a challenge where they have to go on top of like two 18 wheelers and i think they actually might have done that exact fucking thing for like like last year for like immunity for one of the things so i definitely saw that it was very cool it was like watching the 1999 home run derby where everyone was juiced out of their mind and hitting bombs 800 feet over the green monster i love that side of the thing of where, you know, it's clearly a bunch of super soldiers just absolutely, you know, murking each other. The thing that back in the warehouse, when Bucky says,
Starting point is 00:19:34 I see a clear path, we take it. That was straight out of Jon Snow's fucking strategy guide. That was page one of Jon Snow. And then he would just get everybody he knows killed and murdered in the most gruesome fashionashions possible so that's kind of who I'm like you know nothing Bucky what's his last name Barnes Bucky Barnes yeah well you know
Starting point is 00:19:51 nothing Bucky Barnes that's what I'm gonna say to you and the stealing when they said stealing vaccines I straight up got triggered I was like fuck this I don't need to hear this like I am escaping reality when I head into the Marvel Cinematic Universe I do not need to hear the V word going on. That pissed me off.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And then since we're living in 2021, let's start this thing piece off. Is Bucky sexist for thinking the girl was a hostage? I say we cancel Bucky. He should be canceled. No, again, 100 plus showbiz. Can't cancel. He's older than John Wayne, who was canceled. Let's not forget, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I'm surprised you didn't call her darling. Oh, sweet darling. Hey, you in trouble here? Get me a whiskey, yo. But it is one of those things. She even, I think, plays it off, too. She makes you want to think that she's the hostage. This was the other thing, and I might have missed it.
Starting point is 00:20:39 The truck following them just didn't give a fuck that a dude just broke into their... It seemed a little weird right that entire yeah so i i don't know what that was all about like he said cap coming on getting in captain america just fucking cap popping caps captain america shooting a gun was weird that was weird as fuck for me because like his whole thing is he fights but he fights with the shield so it's almost like a pass he's defending he's not actually like on the on the attack it seems and see captain america shoot a gun that kind of fucked me up and i i it was one of those things it was just a subconscious thing and when i saw it i was kind of like i'm near offended by it rob i'm not gonna lie it's like they made a moment of it
Starting point is 00:21:18 like when he actually started tate when he took the gun out and started firing it almost took like a beat to let that sit and let that breathe i guess uh but he got trapped near the bottom of the 18 wheeler at one point through his arm it like cut through almost batman like when he would use the spikes on the end of his arm to cut through cars bucky uses his arm to do this and it's getting stomped on by one of the biggest flag smashers uh falcon eventually swoops and he saves them they go under the 18 wheeler and kind of leave captain america and h Hoskins to deal with these guys themselves. They're like, fuck that. These guys are all super soldiers, so screw it.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And they also get their ass kicked on top of the truck. Hoskins gets kicked off, and Cap throws his shield so he could slide on top of it. Awesome scene. Awesome save by John Walker there. And then he gets a little too cocky. He's like, you're going to regret that, he says to Aaron Kelly kellyman and she fucks him up throws him right off the bus uh he really has nothing to offer in return for it he gets smashed on top of someone's windshield crazy sequence let me say this aaron kellyman isn't the only girl that kicks ass though if you want to check out another girl
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Starting point is 00:24:14 I love that too. Wednesday night seems like a night that always has room for like, uh, some sort of content and something. So they probably saw that and were like, boom, we're going to own Wednesdays. And you said 16 year old rdt tweeted out our blog excuse me blogged uh a blog about uh i think uh there was a 17 year old who made this like crazy like web gem and i was like oh my god what was i doing at the age of 17 and this guy is doing you know in major league camp making these 16 year old fighting in the mma card i again like
Starting point is 00:24:44 i remember being 16 year old and seeing seeing girls fight each other in the lunchroom and being terrified of them. I'm going to be absolutely terrified of this. Oh, my goodness. She's a badass, too. She just made her debut this year. She's 1-0, and I think she's got a very promising future. And you're going to have to check out one championship to follow her career.
Starting point is 00:25:00 You've got to kind of start. This is your way to kind of get in on the bottom of her. You get your NFTs of her, and you're going to be a billionaire. I mean, I can't make any promises here, but hey, let's do this together. Bucky and Falcon are walking along the road now. I don't know why Falcon couldn't have just used his wings. They were like, you're 20 miles away from the airport. You need a ride.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I was like, he's got fucking wings. So that was a weird. Yeah, that was just kind of confusing. But Walker and Hoskins roll up on him in an army truck. Reminded me of the trucks that they were driving in the first Captain America, like very much the army set up. I don't know if they were aiming for that or not, but it just reminded me of that. And Walker says, you know, I've jumped on four grenades. Like, like you said, when they eventually get in, he says, yes, I jumped on four grenades.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It's a trick my helmet does or something. And eventually he reveals that he tracked them to munich through falcon somehow backpack it was like tracked through the government and he's like i am the government you know dickhole move the way the way that he delivered that line i was just like ah this fucking guy and then bucky steps out the second hoskins calls himself battle star i guess that's his code name his superhero name that came up with as soon as buck as Bucky hears that, he's like, stop the car. I'm done. He gets out.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Walker is still saying to these guys, he's like, I promise I'm not trying to be Steve Rogers. I know that you guys were friends with him. I appreciate that. I'm just trying to be the best Captain America I could be. I'm like, all right. He's fucking got a point. And then he says, but I need Caps wingman by my side. And I'm like, nope, there you go.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And Falcon says, there's always that final line. He just ruins it with the final with the final line and it's like bro they don't want to be called wingmen they don't want to be your sidekicks right now you just got handed this promotion after they were alongside cap through it all yeah it's it was a tough look the battle star name it was like taser face i was like oh no that's not a good one and he and i clearly clearly Bucky knows what's going on with what they're trying to do. He kind of sees through it. And they just keep talking until they end up just like just completely blowing it for themselves. And we know this within the blog.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And granted, we're not going crazy with the name. But you're Robbie Fox. I'm Clem, right? If you have a bad name for the blog name, people aren't going to care about you immediately right off the bat. So you have to be smart there, Battlestar. You have to do better. You can't be like, hey, I need some of your, like, some of Cap's faithful assistance and something like that.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Just an awful move. So, again, we're on the outside looking in. It's kind of funny to see the old crew meeting the new crew. And there's always that, like, I feel like in the Sandlot, right, if, like, Benny the Jet had left, a couple of the guys had left the guys left and you try to get another sandlot crew there's always going to be that tough you know mingling between the two different sides and uh i i think we're all supposed to be very much pro bucky pro falcon i mean it's the fucking name of the show which by the way i hate to go on a detour here disney plus we got to do a better job naming these shows. Because I just realized, WandaVision, Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Loki.
Starting point is 00:27:47 We're just naming it after characters. She-Hulk. Yeah, I understand. We're just trying to get some things established. It's a new show. Can we just, like, one of our first ten shows, just not name literally after a character? That's all I'm going to ask. The movie's kind of hard, too, to be fair. They'll add a little tagline afterwards, maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But, I mean what what would they call this if not fucking we don't like the new captain america show yeah fuck the cat new captain america he's fucking hydra new captain america's hydra that's what she called um i think there is some shades of gray with him though i think that you know i don't know where we're gonna land with him by the end of this show the flag smashers we now cut to being welcomed in some supporters home he's like i've made you guys me and my wife have made you guys chicken livers the best which i was like jesus christ buddy i could have made him something better he says anything i could do for the cause you tell me if i was part of that i'd be like you can get me and my wife some fucking mcdonald's now because i'm not eating your chicken livers but i don't know maybe they're
Starting point is 00:28:41 super soldiers that seems like the kind of thing you would feed to like a dog if you want to like bulk them up or something maybe that's like what super soldiers eat. They call Aaron Kellyman Robin Hood. I think that's going to be important or maybe what they call her. He's like, they're calling you Robin Hood now, maybe because she's stealing from the rich, giving to the poor in their eyes. And then she receives a text. It says something along the lines of you took what was mine and now i'm going to kill you for it let's take predictions right here who is this text sent from i'm saying it was your boy on the sus list mr government museum guy oh okay okay all right and maybe he's gonna send john walker to get it
Starting point is 00:29:18 back and john walker's gonna have to do some shady shit or he's gonna have to go at over his own lines to get it back that's my prediction my prediction and this one's going deep here i'm trying to figure out which one of these motherfuckers are the most sus i'm gonna go john walker's girlfriend she is going to see that one coming it's good it all comes circling back and we're gonna do all the breadcrumbs we're gonna pick apart all the theories and it'll all come back to her at the end because i don't think we've seen the end of her and we're gonna see something with her phone or some kind of tricky stuff going on with that so that's that's my complete dumb guess in the dark if that hits that's like plus 750 on the barstool sports boat that is like a solid solid future you're putting in right there
Starting point is 00:30:03 i never like when i'm looking at futures, I love futures. Thank you for bringing that up, by the way. I love futures, and I love – I basically just take out the first 10, just wipe that away. Like I don't have time for like minus or like plus 200s, and I just go straight Super Bowl. And it's basically usually wherever the Colts end up is where I usually start putting my money.
Starting point is 00:30:21 It's like the Colts are like plus 12 to plus 18. So, yeah, I'm going down on the bar. So you have to scroll twice. I don't even know her name. I don't even know her name is. So we may never see her again in this show, but as of now, she's the one who sent that text in my mind. I love it. Let me just say this.
Starting point is 00:30:39 All right. All right. Let me, let me say this the right way. I don't want to get camp. Don't want to get in trouble. Any of this kind of stuff. Two episodes so far of the Flag Smashers. There's nothing that I saw out of the Flag Smashers today
Starting point is 00:30:53 that makes me like them any less. If anything, it makes me like them a lot more. Now, listen, you said they brought them in and they made chicken livers and what kind of meat? I took it as these people are very poor and they don't have like a lot of stuff, but like, that's probably like a cheap meal out there and like Latvia or wherever the fuck they were. And McDonald's would have went a long way.
Starting point is 00:31:14 They don't have the money for McDonald's, but they have the chickens they raise on their farms. They cut the livers out themselves. And like, just seeing it in Tupperware, like that was such a homie move. I just absolutely loved it. The beds,
Starting point is 00:31:24 they had these, like, this is, that's like my guest room bed right it's like the old sheets I had when I was in college are on that bed and the the the line that they have one world one people I mean are we really gonna say the flex measures are bad they said one world one people that is kumbaya man everyone together what this is the world that's John Lennon shit. Imagine there's no countries. Yeah, exactly. All those celebrities, fucking Gal Gadot might be a Flag Smasher for all we know. And this is what they said in the first episode.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I wrote down the exact quote. Flag Smashers want a world without borders. I mean, come on here, Rob. We praise doctors without borders, don't we? Exactly. I am going all in on the Flag Smashers. And, again, this might look really bad in Episode 6. I'm Flag Smasher.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I am officially – I am going to look up what I have to do to become a Flag Smasher. It just sounds so fucking cool. And whatever kind of, like, initiations they have to do, the initiation fee is probably not cheap, right, because it looks like they need the money and all that kind of stuff. But that guy, man, I don't know. There's something about that. One more one people. I made these chicken livers. My poor shitty wife
Starting point is 00:32:32 who probably doesn't have any shoes on because they can't afford it. You don't have to call the wife shitty. I mean, she has a shitty life. She has to wear potato sacks on her feet and stuff like that. I'm saying she has it tough and she's like, I can't believe I married this goon here and he has these radicalized militants coming into our house to feed them our favorite our chicken livers that we were supposed to eat this
Starting point is 00:32:52 week so i don't know lose them every every week we lose them to a new villain that just persuades them to join the group this is how the villain groups form they persuade guys like clem with their no borders things but i do think marvel is going to add in, like I said, with John Walker, like shades of gray with the flag smashers and show that, you know, maybe they do have a perspective. Maybe they do have something that they think is right,
Starting point is 00:33:15 that they're accomplishing or they're taking forward. They're taking out. Let me just say, I haven't seen anything bad from them yet. So I think we're looking at all white in the flag smashers. There've been no dark side of them. It's been nothing but good things. they're getting attacked by these random super soldiers who are on steroids if i've learned anything from baseball it's that steroids are
Starting point is 00:33:31 the pure evil of the world again tupperware is i just this is what it comes down to tupperware is like just the everyday man's item like it's you're not going out you're not getting fancy lunches every day you're bringing your food from home and like i don't know just something relatable with that so shout out to flag smashers for being relatable as shit i'm not gonna shout out the flags back to bucky and sam on the plane and bucky's like we should just fucking take that shield ourselves fuck this fucking john walker guy and sam reminds him the last time we took that shield sharon was labeled a fugitive of the state or something which we brought up sharon we know she's gonna be in this show that was the first little tease of it i think and he says not a good idea we can't fucking do that now sam says we just got our ass handed to us by a couple of super
Starting point is 00:34:12 soldiers and we got nothing where are we supposed to go from here and bucky says well there's someone you should meet we cut to baltimore now we saw the plane made a quick left made a quick right whatever it made a turn and we get this conversation which you referenced earlier between falcon and this little kid on the side of the street where he's like he there he is the black falcon he's like no no just the falcon kid he's like no no my dad said you're the black falcon he said is it because i'm a black guy he said yeah he said well then are you a black kid and then he's like got him the. The guy's like, the kid goes, whatever, dude, which I thought was so funny the way the kid was like shooing him off. But then they walk up to this house and Bucky knocks and he's like, hey, we're here to see Isaiah.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Kid refuses to let him in. They got the metal door in front of it, which is always scary. It reminds me of like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when Brad Pitt was walking up to that house in the Manson Ranch. And he says tell him i'm the guy from the bar in goyang he'll know what that means kid's like all right walks back he says it's your lucky day and he tells falcon in this moment bucky right before they walk in he's like we had a skirmish during the korean war which i love that he's old enough to have those moments he's still a young guy but i just thought that
Starting point is 00:35:25 was cool and we meet isaiah now isaiah bradley he has a great opening line i actually thought it was one of the funniest lines of the episode when he says you know we met during the korean war in a bar on goyang and he says if i meet you mean i kicked your ass then yeah we met they talk a little bit and he says there's more of you and me out there he throws a box through a wall and isaiah's like i went to jail for 30 years you don't talk to me about you and me kicks him out of the house he goes crazy and falcon's like what the fuck was that crazy encounter but we'll get to it later isaiah bradley one of the coolest characters marvel has to offer when they showed like the cutaway and you see this dude is just jacked out of his mind
Starting point is 00:36:08 casually. I was like, holy shit. The, like you said, the subtle remark about civil war to start with, like you said, with the shields getting taken. And then the casual Korean war reference was absolutely awesome. And I'm guessing here is that Isaiah Bradley, I know in the books, he is known as Captain America. So I feel like in the time Steve Rogers was gone, they probably had a couple of guys that they were throwing around the name of Captain America. Or maybe, you know, they had the super soldiers out there.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I've got the backstory. You've got a question about it. I'll give you the backstory. Great. So again, the shit he went through with 30 years, right? Arrested in jail and all that kind of stuff. I feel like we're going to definitely touch on that side of things, which I mean, I'm sure there's people who are going to be like upset at it, getting added to the MCU. I also feel like it makes it feel more realistic. Let's be honest, right? So I don't know how it'll go. Four more episodes left, right? I feel like it'll be a pretty heavy sticking point.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And part of the reason maybe the shield went back to begin with, with without talking so they get into a heated back and forth outside the house now they're arguing because sam is basically like there's been a black super soldier here for how many years and you haven't told anybody did steve know why didn't you tell me cops roll up on him in this moment and they're like hey is everything okay here you guys yelling what's the deal they asked for id sam's like what the fuck like are you fucking kidding me right now like you're asking for my id which if anyone has a right to be like do you know who i am it's the fucking avengers of all people one of the cop realizes he's like they're the fucking avengers they are immediately treated so differently from
Starting point is 00:37:38 that moment on you could see the look of disgust on sam's face from that like when he's like oh i'm so sorry i didn't recognize you without the goggles like you're so awesome he's just like i don't want to fucking deal with this they say wait right here and then they come back and they say mr barnes there's actually a warrant out for your arrest sam tries to tell him he's been pardoned for all that and they're like no no recently you missed your court mandated therapy that's like violating parole basically and they take him to prison or wherever they put him in the car and take him away we see then at the prisoner wherever they have taken them to uh his therapist shows up and sam's like thank you so much for getting him out of this i'm really sorry about that and she says oh i didn't
Starting point is 00:38:15 get him out and cap walks in like such a douchebag like such he's got a posse he's got the news cameras and he's like oh he won't be needing therapy anymore i'm gonna take him under my wing we got big business to think up and he says talk to us outside bucky comes out they go into therapy we get our second session with marvel's dr melfi yeah the the when bucky goes under arrest i don't know how they could have done it if i could have just saw him in that jail and just saw avon or we bay or someone from the wire just in the jail somewhere it would have just made my entire day uh but i think we all had that like that chill go down our spine when fucking dickhead big chin cap comes captain captain quagmire i'm calling captain quagmire captain quagmire comes going in feeling all and you're like giggity giggity giggity giggity's his ass right into the scene and there's just nothing worse than when someone
Starting point is 00:39:11 you hate helps you out and whether it's something that you that they know you hate like you they know you hate them or if they don't know that almost makes it worse it's just like your pride is just on the ground i felt so bad for the guys in that moment right there it was just terrible so the therapist says now immediate session both of you this second i'm demanding it she takes them in for the session she makes them face each other she says why don't you say what you don't like about each other and bucky i felt like had sort of a decent gripe because sam was like this has nothing to do with you i don't know why you're so angry about me giving up the shield. It's not like Steve gave you the shield or anything. It's like very much has to do with me. And Bucky says, no, it does have to do with me because Sam gave
Starting point is 00:39:53 you that shield because he trusted you and he trusted me. So what if he was wrong about you? Does that mean he was wrong about me? And if he was wrong about Bucky, then it's, you know, a killer that shouldn't be on the loose. He's got his own shit to about am i gonna be reprogrammed and sam just tells him listen you're never gonna understand this and maybe steve won't either but i did in my mind what was the right thing we have two good arguments on each side they won't come together though they're they're both stubborn neither one sees each other's point and they agree all right let's just go on this mission let's get the flag smashers and we will never see each other ever again at the end of this gives you another uh another hint of what's to come in the future because i think we all know this show is going to be working towards them
Starting point is 00:40:35 becoming good friends and becoming close and realizing we don't want to separate after this mission we want to keep working together we still have a whole lot of buddy cop tropes that we have to hit along the way right and there's the part where one of them does walk away from the other does the thing he promised he would never do and it's going to cause a real rift or whatever but this is kind of the the seeds being planted um i love the line about the miracle like what would you say is like a miracle i was like what would be a miracle for like robbie i'd be like ah he meets luke skywalker conor mcgregor and Dana White. You've already gotten your three fucking miracles, Bob Fox. You're living a goddamn miracle life right now,
Starting point is 00:41:10 you son of a bitch. I really am. I can't complain. Shout out to Dave Portnoy. We always have to say thank you to Dave Portnoy for anything we've ever gotten in life. So I sincerely mean it. Thank you, Dave Portnoy, for giving us these dream jobs.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But yeah, I feel like in the end, I liked how they twisted that too because i never thought of it from uh bucky's angle too and it doesn't make perfect sense and i do think i think this this series we're gonna have whoever it is whoever is number one on the hydra the true hydra amongst these people are gonna try to weaponize the winter soldier again with that little book we saw those little words or whatever that was kind of his commands i think we're gonna have someone who has that book it might be yori for all we know um i'm really pissing off bob tonight with some of my fucking no yori slander no yo i thought we were free of yori slander he wasn't even on this episode i was
Starting point is 00:42:01 like there's no way clem works in a chirp at Yori. And there he fucking goes. All right. And then my other line was, or my other note, the staring contest. Let's have a staring contest for the YouTube. I don't know if people are watching on YouTube. Ready? Ready? Yeah. Ready, set, go.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I don't know if I blinked but i don't think i did well obviously my eyes are my eyes are watering immediately oh my god i used to be the staring king really i've never lost the staring you're that bucky born stare yeah and now i'm wearing glasses because i'm old this is like a three-year-old thing here. I just got glasses in the last three years,
Starting point is 00:42:46 and now I can't do staring contests. I'm just fucking crumbling apart. Basically, I am capped sitting on that lake right now. I'm just going to give A.D. my shield, give Sienna my blessings, and then just fucking die because I can't even, like, not even win a staring contest. I can't compete in a staring contest. And that's actually my question.
Starting point is 00:43:04 What's the best way to get ready for a staring contest i used to think you just close your eyes as long as possible and then open them or do you kind of just like slowly get your relax i think you try to just relax as much as possible the the idea of the visual of you sitting on that bench like an old man cap is hysterical me walking over to you like hey clem you know the mets got a day game on today you want to watch it you're like nope i don't think i will i can't even make it away to the day games like i'll be asleep like 12 30 before they're even on come on for the pregame that's the premium content you get on youtube right there yeah i'm sure there's riveting audio for the people on apple and spotify that's doing a staring contest sam and bucky go outside to talk to john and hoskins and they basically
Starting point is 00:43:44 say listen i don't think we should work together. It's not a good idea. We don't get along. We're two separate forces. You've got to follow certain protocols that we don't. And John Walker says, well, then stay the hell out of my way. You're like, oh, this motherfucker. You're telling us to stay out of your fucking way.
Starting point is 00:43:58 You stay out of fucking our way. We do the fucking. And Bucky and Zemo then start talking. They say, all right, we right we gotta go see zemo and i loved loved the reveal of zemo with the classical music the cutaway him in prison all that shit was perfect because he knows about the super soldiers and that was the end of the episode it was awesome the way they said they gotta gonna go see zemo like i like when you say the name in the reveal instead of having them just show up or whatever and it was just like so casual you know what i mean it was gonna go see zemo that was great i almost feel
Starting point is 00:44:30 like uh the new cap it's like when he said like stay out of my way it needed like the the 80s guitar of like like the villain at a ski resort is what he played in my mind um i don't know if we got to this one the smashers when they were leaving on the plane, the flag smashers. Oh, yes. I forgot to mention that. Yeah. So they're basically like, all right,
Starting point is 00:44:50 we got to get in the plane, you know, take off. And, you know, these people have found us. You see the cars coming down the road. And the one dude's like, I got it. Don't worry. I'll do anything. And then he says the line to like one world, one people, throws a mask on, goes out there, knocks a pole down and then runs toward them and gets absolutely just filled with bullet holes.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Dude, you could have just knocked the pole down, turned around and ran on the plane. Am I the only one who thinks he's crazy? Ran away even like I guess he was trying to make a distraction. Seemed like the pole was a good distraction. It was like, whoa, yeah, sparks are flying everywhere. they probably can't even fucking see if the plane's taking off from here if they got you know the astigmatism eyes that you and me have from that staring contest they probably were blinking their asses off but yeah that was he just i mean he wanted to eat a bullet for the cause i guess one world one piece he probably that's actually good point like
Starting point is 00:45:41 probably like the day he signed up he's like no no i'll die for you guys. We did it. We appreciate it. Day three. And he actually did it for Robin Hood, who we don't know if she's the leader, but she's a key member. People are talking about this woman. He did it for her. It was like an act of courage out of desperation, basically. So, yeah. This fucking guy is such a drama queen.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Everything's a soul for a soul. We need you alive. We need as many bodies as you can get we need to spread our message we need to like have people who are ready to fight we don't need people dying but you know what he just wanted the fuck that's basically what i do in call of duty we play together i go for the flag i regenerate i go for the flag again you can and sooner or later their defenses are just broken by me just keep going for the flag and i get the little checkpoints. And that's how you need to have people like this guy. So I just wanted to shout him out, even though it was the dumbest strategy I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Shout out every Flag Smasher. I want to shout out Flag Smasher number three on set. He was a great role. All right, Clint, you fucking Flag Smasher ways. And we also hear, was this the first time we hear the power broker is involved in this? I think so, yeah. They say the power broker. If the power broker is going after the flag smashers, doesn't that make the flag smashers good guys?
Starting point is 00:46:54 The power broker's a bad guy? It's who they're calling. They're saying he's the bad guy. It's all a perspective from a certain point of view. Oh, you're a power broker guy. You're a power broker. All right. No, but people from Deadspin think we're the bad guys.
Starting point is 00:47:08 We're not the bad guys. We're the good guys. Are we the good guys? Shit, I didn't know this. No. You got a sus list and an AKA a hydro list for us? I do. Our hydro list for week two here.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I'll tell you, Rob Fox, you're getting close to there. If you're so much against the flag smashers, I'm starting to think you're fucking part of the problem here. I'll tell you, Rob Fox, you're getting closer there. If you're so much against the Flag Smashers, I'm starting to think you're fucking part of the problem here. We need to get you a Flag Smasher shirt. I'm not going to get you a Flag Smashers mask. That's a bit much. That's a bit scary, but the shirt, we need to get you. Oh, Jesus. I'm going to get thrown
Starting point is 00:47:38 on an FBI watch list when they see me. Number three on the Hydra watch list. Didn't see this person this week which only makes me think this person's gonna be a problem down the road it's yori clearly just cooking something up in his little brooklyn basement or it's actually a nice apartment a little too nice being like how do you make that kind of money at the man's age you know much apartment like that cost in brooklyn bob you live in the city you know what it's like it costs a lot of money maybe i don't know maybe
Starting point is 00:48:07 he's got like that friends deal didn't they say in friends like they had the fucking thing where it's like we paid our grandmother's rent yeah maybe you already got that he's been living in brooklyn his whole life all right if that's what you want to believe sure too so story number two i i mean the guy should be number one let's's be honest. It's John Walker. But he's just too fucking nice. And he has enough of that dickhead hard-o and the chin and just a lot not to like about him. And he just happened to know where the Flag Smashers were. They said they tracked Red Wing.
Starting point is 00:48:37 That's all nice and good. I think that's bullshit because I bet they're going to show up again and Red Wing will have been smashed, so they won't be able to use that excuse, and that's where we're going to catch him in his eye. That a good call that's a great prediction the red one i like that yeah number one i already kind of gave it away on this uh john walker's girlfriend i don't know why there was just something about her i did not trust i'll be honest at first i had the psychiatrist number one i have to get off of like this crazy the most likely person is going
Starting point is 00:49:05 to be the most sus person so i'm throwing his girlfriend in because it was like enough of a character that you'd remember her but not enough that you're going to constantly be thinking about her and the thing that's going to ruin it for everyone is an episode like five or six they're going to do it previously on and they're going to show her walking in in the beginning of this episode and be like oh whatever happened to her boomra. I like that you go for the predictions that are the furthest out there. We might have to get our friend Brendan Clancy on the show soon to get his predictions and theories and stuff, because he's another one of those guys that will give you everything. You'll throw everything at a wall just in case anything sticks. And he has great predictions and takes because of that.
Starting point is 00:49:43 So let us know if you want us to get him on the show we can get him back let's get into listener questions the first of which comes from robbie poirier a fellow robbie shout out you robbie he says what part do you think zemo has to play in all of this i thought that was a good question because i don't know if he's going to be a villain right off the bat right it looks like we're going to need his help so we're going to maybe we're going to be stringing him along maybe you referenced the lethal weapon before could you imagine he's like the joe pesci and this lethal weapon too between these guys i think that would be kind of funny i think by the end of it he will somehow betray these guys and get away and it could set him up as a villain in the future of the mcu almost uh lando calvary's
Starting point is 00:50:22 and betrayal almost a dj from Star Wars betrayal, something like that. I like that. That's kind of where I was going to go to. He helps out, but then he ends up getting away. Whether or not, you know, a lot of times when these villains come in to help, it's because something that they love is at stake and they have to help out, but then at the end. So I do feel like he's going to get away and be a big part of this Falcon Winter Soldier universe kind of subsection, right? It's like the comic series. away and be a big part of this Falcon winter soldier universe kind of subsection, right? It's like the comic series.
Starting point is 00:50:47 He'll be a big part of there, but I, I, I don't know. I said it with Scarlet, with a Wanda vision a lot. I love the idea of Scarlet, which becoming bad.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I love the idea of Baron Zemo helping the good guys out. I kind of like the idea where everything is kind of fluid. And when there's a legitimate heel and face terms, I love that even more. Like if Scarlet, which did go dark and becomes like the main villain, Dr. Strange, I would absolutely adore that. kind of fluid and when there's legitimate heel and face uh turns i love that even more like if scarlet witch did go dark and becomes like the main villain doctor strange i would absolutely adore that so um i hope that's the case as well one of my favorite parts about x2 is the fact that magneto has to go and help the x-men and they're going like they're working together
Starting point is 00:51:18 magneto and mystique and like it just makes that dynamic so much cooler it's like oh my god it's you think about the x-men cartoon it's like that would be an episode you'd be like that was the coolest episode that that was always my favorite part about magneto is how him and charles xavier started together on the same side and that they split and the way they split it's like you'd be like magneto's a fucking monster but i kind of understand where he's coming from and if i was a mutant or if i had seen the shit he saw on the holocaust like i could definitely see where he's coming from and if i was a mutant or if i had seen the shit he saw on the holocaust like i could definitely see where he's coming from so that bring back x-men five games you owe us for that one of you owe us for paul bet me sins that's your that's not gonna fight you hired the man our next question comes from alternate dimension nathan hurst it's not the artist
Starting point is 00:52:00 nathan hurst who does our designs and our logos but it's the alternate dimension one this is earth 652 it's the multiverse multihurst this is the multihurst the multihurst nathan hurst it is he says can you explain exactly who isaiah bradley is and i can i can do that right here i went i looked up uh his backstory i've gathered some notes isaiah bradley was known as the black captain america in the comic books. After Dr. Erskine, who helped Captain America with the super soldier serum and everything, died, the U.S. Army wanted to continue producing super soldiers like Steve Rogers, but they had none of the resources or secrets to do so. So they took 300 African-American soldiers and they used them as guinea pigs.
Starting point is 00:52:42 They started testing on all of them. They sent out letters to all of their families saying they had died in combat. And Isaiah Bradley's wife did not believe this. She kept digging throughout all the years. Bradley was eventually one of three survivors. Everyone else died. The three of them got super soldier serum. And then on a mission, two of them died. he was then the only survivor on his last assignment which was basically a suicide mission to a nazi death camp to kill uh the nazi doctor who came up with the nazi version of the super soldier serum he stole the captain america suit and shield and went on that mission as captain america it was a successful mission but he got captured he was then rescued by german freedom fighters and by the time he made it back to the United States of America, they sentenced him to life in prison for stealing the Captain America suit and shield. Even though at this time, Steve Rogers wasn't around, you know, he's frozen in the ice and everything.
Starting point is 00:53:36 30 years later, or in the comics, I believe it was 17 years later, Eisenhower let him out. He pardoned him. He let him out on the day that Kennedy was inaugurated. And as long as he swore to secrecy, let him be. Kind of a crazy story. A very, very cool backstory, I thought. Very cool that it was kept a secret in the comics the whole time. So it makes sense for it to be kept a secret in the MCU the whole time. And then his grandson, who let them in, is also a factor. He is, what's his name? I forget his name. But in the comics, he's known as Patriot. He could be a step to building what I believe is the Young Avengers.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I believe they are building the Young Avengers. It's not my own theory. I think a lot of people are onto this. We could get Wiccan, Speed, Cassie Lang, Kate Bishop, who's going to be in the new Hawkeye show, Miss Marvel even. And then I think maybe the kid from Iron Man 3 could take up the mantle of iron lad um he was a part of the young avengers in the comics and possibly even miles morales i just watched spider-man homecoming over again and we've got miles's uncle in donald glover in that movie and he even references having a
Starting point is 00:54:42 nephew and you know marvel those teases aren't just easter eggs for the fans those are things that they're going to look back on and bring up back down the line so the the bradley's are very very vital i think and will be vital to the mcu going forward they there's some plants that need to be fucked by marvel my grounds would be hell of a plan as well is iron lad is that like is he like british iron man or something like what's that i think he's just a young iron man he's a young iron man kid because there's a boy and a girl that are both young riri williams is iron heart and then there's iron lad and i believe he's a boy but then you also have morgan stark it's like do you want to do morgan stark as an iron man because i feel like that would be sick she the actress that played morgan stark
Starting point is 00:55:23 was rescued for halloween and was just like yeah that would be fucking cool if iron man's daughter took up the mantle but they brought the kid from iron man 3 back in endgame and again like the reference to miles morales i don't think that was just hey let's have him here i think that was maybe we're gonna have him here so we could use him in the future that goddamn kid in endgame threw so many people for a room i didn't know what the fuck was going on who is that i'm like mourning tony stark and everyone's just like what yeah who the hell is this guy um that uh isaiah bradley story is awesome i had no idea that really cool right i hope they get into that in the show i hope they like actually talk about it
Starting point is 00:56:00 i almost feel a little watchman parallels right where you you hear about what was the hooded justice right and kind of his backstory and was the name of Hooded Justice, right? And kind of his backstory. And it feels kind of like that where he was this dude and he kind of just, you know, and he does this thing and he ends up getting, you know, screwed for it in the long run. And the guy looks so badass. I just looked up his, like, pictures here on the internet.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And, oh, my God, it's like a fucking, like, beast mode motherfucker just chugging people. It looks awesome. And just seeing him rock the cap outfit would be cool too. So, oh, yeah. I hope we get some sort of a flashback. Even if it's just like a five-minute thing. It doesn't need to be the whole episode.
Starting point is 00:56:33 That's cool. A nightmare. Maybe he has a nightmare winter soldier about getting the arm ripped off by him. We get to see a young version of him in his prime. That would be kind of dope. Let me just say this right now. Isaiah Reilly, no chance of ending up on the hydro list no no no definitely not he's the man um our final question comes from ryan
Starting point is 00:56:51 dietrich and i don't know if i said his last name right i hope i did he said do you think by the end of the series we will end up rooting for john walker i think this is such a great question because i could see it going both ways by the end of the series maybe we go hey we were wrong about him he was a good guy all along he did the right thing maybe he saves bucky or sam in the end or the end of the series he may be full fucking hydra fully corrupted by the fact that he has to uphold to captain america's ideologies and um be this guy that everyone wants him to be and he becomes so obsessed with not wanting to fail everyone that he starts cutting corners, doing bad things.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I think in the comics, he's called us agent. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. If the us agent is a villain or a hero, but maybe by the end of the series, he'll be the us agent and Sam will be captain America. Yeah. I,
Starting point is 00:57:42 like, I don't see how we're going to root him then again like he's gonna go on an episode of part of my take and i'm gonna like him like those motherfuckers maybe like like foul wall guy and marlin's man and all these just crazy people that i never liked at all um i don't like marlin's man anymore but he did have a minute where i was like oh this guy's kind of like funny and i was like oh no he's just a complete lunatic. But there are, I just don't see how I'm going to like this guy. I'm never going to trust him. And it's 90, he gets a new chin.
Starting point is 00:58:11 There's a chance for him. He just, like you said, he seems like fake Razor Ramon. And he just has a hard-o vibe to him. Like the vibes are off, the chin is off. You can't have that much going against. He's replacing a goddamn legend. And he's just said the wrong thing every single time he has the chance. I just don't see it happening,
Starting point is 00:58:28 which then again, my dumb brain is like, well, then it's obviously happening. This is Marvel. They're throwing you off. I'm going to say, no,
Starting point is 00:58:34 I'm going to leave with you. I'm going to say no. And I feel like if anything, he becomes, you know, someone we're rooting against and be some sort. I don't think there'll be like a super villain group, but I think he'll,
Starting point is 00:58:44 he'll be out there as a potential villain um he has super serum right i don't think so no i think he just tested like you know highest in his class and every chart every estimation whatever so he's just doing that with the shield just on fucking serious damn god bless him this is my other question are those vaccines are they super serum? I don't know. I don't know what the vaccines were, but maybe they're trying to distribute them to like the people that weren't blipped away.
Starting point is 00:59:11 You know, their whole thing is the government cares more about the people that just got blipped back than the people that were here the whole time. I don't know what exactly the vaccines were. I didn't know if it was some sort of super, I think my wife said it was at the serum and I was like, shit, I didn't think about that. But it could be something else where they're there.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I mean, they could be trying to help like people with like diseases, like deadly diseases. And they could be trying to kill people to Clem. They're villains. Vaccines. Oh, Bob's an anti-vaxxer too. I have one vaccine.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I'm getting a vaccine. Don't worry. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. Don't you cut this Bob. I'm getting a vaccine. Don't worry. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. Don't you cut this, Bob. Don't you cut this. I'm not committing. I'm leaving it in. Everyone knows.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Especially if you're listening to the podcast, please watch the YouTube for nothing but see my face when Clem suggested that. That's it for Falcon and the Winter Soldier Episode 2. This is our breakdown of it. We will be back next week with a breakdown, but if any news breaks in the nerdy world between now and then, who knows? You might get hit with a YouTube video. Make sure to subscribe to that channel.

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