My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 123 - 'THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER' EPISODE 5 RECAP WITH CLE‪‪‪M

Episode Date: April 19, 2021

Robbie and Clem are here to recap the PENULTIMATE episode of ‘The Falcon And The Winter Soldier’ on Disney+, as well as taste test some Turkish Delights, declare a couple characters SUS, get their final guesses in on who the Power Broker could be (MEPHISTO?!), and more. 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com BearBottom Clothing: Use code BASEMENT at BearbottomClothing.com for FREE SHIPPING on your first order ONE on TNT 3 this Wednesday at 10pm ET/PT!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. With me is my co-host Clem to recap the penultimate episode of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Goddamn, that feels good to say. When you get to say penultimate any time in life, you get to throw that word out there. You got to do it. And it's bittersweet with this because I feel like it's a great show. It's only six episodes. I'm holding out hope that, you know, in episode six, maybe Sam takes up that Captain America mantle and Winter Soldier leans more into that White Wolf mantle. And season two is Captain America and the White Wolf.

That would be kind of sick. Oh, all right, Fox. You got me on that one. I can almost forgive them just straight up saying character names for every single show. WandaVision, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Loki. But if they're straight up changing the characters' names, yet it's the same character, I dig that. Bob Fox, you got me on that one. That was a live reaction to you breaking my brain.

Thumbs up. Thumbs up for sure. So we talked about something. We're going to do this right up for sure so we talked about something we're gonna do this right off the bat we talked about something a few weeks ago um the turkish delights we talked about actually just last week with brett and clancy it feels like a few weeks ago this pandemic time still all over the place but we talked about the turkish delights because zemo had them in last week's episode you You know, he held one up for Falgun. He threw it at him.

He dumped him out with the kids as he was singing Baba Black Sheep, right? He was singing Baba Black Sheep. And we said we never had Turkish delights, but they looked, as they're titled, delightful. So we went and ordered them. We've got some authentic Turkish delights, folks. Look at that. And we're going to do a taste test on air. This is kind of for the YouTube.

Like if you're listening to the podcast, we still appreciate you. Especially if you're in the car or something. Don't pull up the YouTube. If you're not, though, this is a little visual thing. Who knows what these taste like? They're way more powdery in this than they look in the show. Yeah. And it is like I think with all things like i don't know much about turkey or

that region of the world but i feel like the stuff is like you know a little high class the stuff they do yes and again turkish delights between this show high class like the way it folds open it's got like the little story about the company here it says you know they're traditionally known as the locum it's a confectionary treat that originated in Turkey 500 years ago, spread around the globe. Kind of cool. I mean, this is, I think, a pretty widely, like, eaten thing where maybe we're the weird ones for never trying it. Because when I tweeted it, I got a bunch of replies and actually kind of made me, like, more interested to try it. Some people said, don't waste your time.

Disgusting. You're going to spit them out. And then some people were like, Oh my God, those are my favorite. Jeff D low included. It was like, I fucking love Turkish delights.

Delicious. Jeff D low strikes me as a Turkish delight guy, right? Doesn't he strike you as a Turkish delight guy? He's definitely, I don't know what it is. Um, I,

again, this goes back to like me in grade school and Narnia. When I heard about Turkish delights, this set, it's almost impossible for them to reach. It would be like a Wonka candy coming to life, and it's going to have to be that good. But before we did this, we opened up the packaging

because it came wrapped in plastic, and we didn't want to be gnawing through the packaging. We then opened up the box, as the people on YouTube can see, and then there's a box within a box that we then had to open. There's a little cardboard flap on top. Then there's a box within a box that we then had to open. There's like a little cardboard flap on top. Then there's like this like tissue paper like you would get in like a sneaker. And then it's all powder candy. It's fucking – it's high society is what it is right here.

That's so far. We're going to say 10 out of 10 presentation on the Turkish Delights, right? Very good presentation on the Turkish Delights. And I just picked one up. They're more gummy than I thought they would be. Like you could kind of squeeze them like a Sour Patch Kid. I kind of thought for some reason they would be like hard candies. Yeah, it would be like have a little bit of –

you'd have to bite into it a little bit. Yeah, al dente, if you may. Yeah. Just in the Italian game. All right. All right. Cheers. We always start – what are you starting with?

I'm going red. Me too. Yeah, red. Yeah. You got to always go with – I figure like maybe a strawberry or some right. All right. Cheers. We always start. What are you starting with? I'm going red. Me too. Yeah, red. Yeah. You got to always go with that. I figure like maybe a strawberry or some cherry, something good. Yeah. Red is always like, that is the cheese pizza for Dave when he does the review.

Give me your red. That's your fastball down the middle, 98. You got to give me the red first. So we're going to start with red. Cheers. Cheers, Bob. This tastes like it's like made with real ingredients like that i didn't like that yeah i wasn't a big fan of that it's kind of like easter candy like the old easter candy like

when it's like jelly beans are not made with starburst jelly beans like this is made with real sugar probably and real like fucking fruit or something it's's yet on the, on the front, like, you know, uh, authentic Turkish delight with mixed fruit. It says no, no free ads to this brand. Yeah. I didn't expect you. You bite into it. It almost tastes like,

like a marshmallow consistency. I didn't really expect that either. Bob dive into the purple, dive into the purple. Oh yeah. Yeah. Dive into the purple, purple.

Okay. Purple is better than purple. Purple. Okay. Purple is better than red. Purple is better than red, which is a scary thing because usually, again, you need to have the red being good. Purple, which does taste like grapefruit. It's almost a raspberry or something. All right. Purple is good. Try the yellow.

Try the yellow. I'm going a step ahead of you. Yellow is risky, bro. Yellow is usually. Is this going to be a lemon ahead of you. Yellow is risky, bro. Yellow is usually... Is this going to be a lemon Turkish delight? It's a lemon Turkish delight. All right. It's actually not that bad.

It's better than the red. The red is their fucking weak link, which is... It looks like we have an orange here. All right. I'll try the orange. You know what? Fuck it. The red is their weak link.

Red is their weak link. We tried the worst one off the bat. That's fucked up. This isn't a the orange. You know what? Fuck it. The red is their weak link. Red is their weak link. We tried the worst one off the bat. That's fucked up. This isn't a great orange, and I like a good orange. This is not a good orange. This is a problem. This isn't something I would buy again either. It's fun to try for the show.

I will note, if you're listening to the show, I wouldn't waste your money on these. No. It's good to scratch that itch, though. Again, this is something that's been years in the making. I thought Turkish Delight was like a chocolate item. You know what I would describe them as, to be honest? They taste like dots to me. I was going to say like a chuckle, like a European chuckle without the little sugar on top.

And it's powdered sugar instead, a little smaller. It's Europeanized, you know. This is very much, this is very British or um this is very british or very european right here i mean the back fruit delights rose oh oh here we go now oh we got the flavors on the back flavors are on the back bob you know sense i i would have liked i always like a good map on my um candies like in the chocolates yeah those are great turns out red is rose so we just ate fuck they have rose what the fuck is that about? That's too fancy.

Fucking give me a cherry, give me a strawberry with your red, you know? Rose, mint, lemon, tangerine, satsuma. No idea what the fuck that is. Kiwi and watermelon. And I don't see that many different colors in here, so we might have some – there might be doubling up on the colors. Satsuma is a semi-seedless citrus tangerine kind of thing. So I don't really know about that. And it also says try our other flavors, pomegranate, fig, walnut, coconut covered.

We got almond, peanut, hazelnut, and pistachio nut delights. So there's a whole lot of ways they go in the Turkish delight. I hope Zemo, he obviously got the good shit like he knows he's a baron he knows like the good turkish delights and his were a little bigger than ours they were kind of like individually wrapped too so i'm sure they they were top of the line turkish delights maybe they were like uh ted lasso turkish delights and he made them himself you know my my kids who have eaten nothing but processed american food for basically their entire life will spit these out immediately and they they will kill people for sugar but they like this does not have enough corn syrup and i

feel like corn syrup cannot be on the ingredients list oh corn starch number number ingredients sugar 78 wow they break down how much of each ingredient 78 sugar that's a lot. 12.55% cornstarch, uh, 9% water. And then acidity regulator 0.09%. I love this. Like, I love this European shit. I feel like you actually know what you're eating.

It's a product of Turkey. It's, it says it right there, straight out of Turkey. So this is an authentic Turkish delight. Um, all things considered, what would you give it?

Like a through F, like the whole experience here? The whole experience. See, I liked opening the box. I liked the box inside the box thing. It made me feel like a Baron. Baron Fox. Baron, you could be paying yourself as a Baron Fox.

I like that. I'm going to give it a C plus because I didn't love it. Like I said, I wouldn't buy it again. And the red, if you can't get your red right, man, that's a little rough. But the packaging helped the other ones being surprisingly good after the red i think my expectations were very low for the purple especially after the red and i kind of blew it out of the water so i'll give a c plus i i was right there with you i was thinking c plus the flavor and it's like you said it's an a plus flavors closer to a C, which drags it down. I wouldn't snitch on where someone's funeral is being held based on some stranger giving me these.

But I'm also not a famished kid living in Latvia as a refugee. So I guess if you're a refugee, these things probably taste fucking awesome. What's the candy that someone could get you to do that with? Like if you're a little boy clamming Latvia running around with like the same head you got right now. And Baron Zemo walks up to you and he dumps candy. What's the candy to make you be like, Oh, I'll fucking give you anything you want. Reese's peanut butter cups.

I mean, I'll, I'll sell my kids for like the big ones, you know, the big ones you see at the store that are like $10. I can get up for a peanut butter cup. Only if I was a refugee though, if my wife's list for me, it would probably be sour patch the kid up for a peanut butter cup. Only if I was a refugee though, if my wife's listening.

For me, it would probably be Sour Patch Kids. I'm a big Sour Patch Kids. It's a boring answer. I feel like kind of like right down the middle as far as gummies go, but can't get better than them. And I like that they sell like the all blue bags now, the all red bags. They actually give you the option.

Those are pretty awesome. I said this a few years ago and I feel like this movement's gaining steam. I think the Watermelon Sour Patch Kids are the premier Sour Patch Kid. And granted, I love having variety and all that stuff, but even sometimes Sour Patch Kids, I'm not in the mood for that much sourness. I feel like the Watermelon always has that perfect, subtle mix of sour and sweet. I love the Watermelon Sour sour patch kids i've called them a

sequel better than the original in the past but weirdly i don't like anything else artificially like watermelon flavored like any candy i'll never eat the watermelon flavor jolly ranchers i can't eat the watermelon i just think it's gross i love watermelon sour patch kids love them they're like a premiere movie can't uh candy for me yeah i can't eat that either i think that's gross wow they are they are premier movie candy as well they're bingeable i remember freshman year of college the cafeteria had um like those bulk candies where you just load up your bag like you used to like sweet factory or whatever and i remember uh the i just would start dumping the the watermelons in paying with my meal card that my parents loaded up. And I was like, that's – and the freshman 15 has begun.

That put about 10 of the 15 on me instantly right there. So Sour Patch Watermelons, it's almost like the empire of the trilogy of Sour Patch Kids, right? You have the original, which is great and got you there. And then the watermelons are kind of the empire, maybe the best of all. And I honestly can't even think of the third one. You do the tropical. There you go. Where you're. And I honestly can't even think of the third one. You do the tropical. There you go. Where you're like, all right, you got weird with the third one.

Yeah, all right, George. You got to finish it. He walks this time. Yeah. It's fine. It's fine. We're just doing the Death Star again. That's cool.

It's cool. This shit is so fancy, Bob. Thank you. I appreciate it. You made a young Clem very happy that he can finally – I feel fancy as shit right now. I'm going to start talking with an accent the rest of this podcast. Listen, I hope that the YouTube viewers enjoyed the taste test that we did for them. And while we got you here, while we're talking about the YouTube viewers, hit that like button for us over there.

Like button, right? And then hit the subscribe if you haven't already. We've got interviews coming out during the week. I've been editing a lot of my old interviews. So interviews that I did months ago that never went out as a full video are now going out. I put one out with Alan Tudyk over this past week, who is none other than K2SO himself. If you're a Star Wars fan, I bet you would really like that. He's got some cool stories from the set of Rogue One.

He does a Diego Luna impression at one point that is absolutely hysterical. He slips into his Joker voice from the Harley Quinn series, which I think the coolest thing is whenever you get a voice actor in an interview that slips into one of their animated voices, it's like, oh, the fucking meme. You're pointing at the screen. You're like, it's him. It really is him.

That's his voice. But subscribe if you haven't already. Make sure you like the video. Next week will be our last week recapping Falcon and the Winter Soldier as it's the last episode. And we've got about six weeks after that until Loki but in the weeks between we're going to do movie commentaries here on YouTube the first of which will be Batman 89 with Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson so I can't wait make sure you're subscribed do all that now I honestly um I had a buddy who uh texted me but shut up my boy pally and he texted

me around christmas time was like i decided to watch die hard and he said he said i decided to listen to your commentary die hard at work but i didn't um like have the movie in front of me obviously and he's like i have to tell you it's still play so if you guys want to watch with us i think that's awesome that's the way to go but if not i i did it with um the infinity war one time it just came on on my podcast on. It just started running on its own. I was like, shit. And I'll tell you, it actually kind of works. So we're doing that with Brother Fox. So I finally meet the man, at least virtually, that turned Bob into the nerd I know and love. My nerdy, the C-3PO to my R2-D2 uh i i think this is gonna be a lot of fun and again i haven't seen

that movie shit i mean i honestly probably haven't seen it since like it was on vhs as like the whole thing wow i saw it i saw it because i'm an old man in the theaters and it was like the first movie i could be wrong i feel like that came out um i feel like it was in the movies for like a full year because it was such a smash hit and then like the next week it left the theaters the next week it was on video and it was like mind blowing to someone like me you know I was a young kid at the time but it was crazy so I also might have completely misremembered that entire time

of my life because I was a fucking I was actually kind of young believe it or not at one point in my life so this is going to be a lot of fun good way to kind of chew up the weeks as we wait for the next MCU stuff and you have some other guests some some other movies lined up. So this is going to be a good way to burn the time. We'll get some more Turkish Toys in here and watch some flicks.

I'll tease two of the guests now. We've got two confirmed after my brother. And I told both of them I'm going to tell all of the guests, you pick the movie, your call. You know, we're hands off on it. Pick a movie that you're super passionate about that you want to talk about. We're going to have Alex Sulkin joining us, friend of the program. He's done a bunch of stuff with us in the past.

And we are going to have Brennan Clancy, who, again, friend of the program. I told both of them the idea. I said, we're doing movie commentaries. Do you want to do it? Both of them said, yeah, absolutely. We'll pick the movie. We'll get back to you on the movie. So I'm looking forward to that.

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Use the promo code MMB at checkout, and you will receive 5% off your order. Again, 3chi.com, promo code MMB. All right, and now we can finally get into Falcon and the Winter Soldier. So we kick this week off on a pretty hot note. You know, John Walker's running away from what he just did in the streets, what we just saw at the end of episode four. He's getting flashbacks of it in his head already, almost like the war-style flashbacks, which makes sense.

He is a military guy. He's getting flashbacks to Hoskins telling him the responsibilities that he had to take control of as Captain America he runs into this warehouse Sam and Bucky show up and he tries to justify the killing to him he says I had to do what I had to do come on you guys knew this and they're like don't do this man come on just you got to give us that shield and he says you don't want to do this, guys. They say, yes, we do. And once again, with Falcon, the Winter Soldier, our big premiere action sequence of the episode kicks the episode off.

And the rest of the episode is kind of exposition, kind of slower. But I dug the way they threw this together. And it was, I mean, savage by Walker to be like, I am Captain America in the middle of this thing. He's just a lunatic now. And I guess that super serum is, I want to say, and I think someone tweeted this to me as well. Is it like stronger super serum, but it makes him a little crazier because he was putting up an amazing fight against Bucky, you know, a fellow super soldier and Falcon combined. But he was also showing those signs of like oh he's still a lunatic in there so i don't know he uh he rips falcon's wings off

during this fight right and they break his arm to finally get the shield off of him they were kind of getting that shield off of him like it was the gauntlet on thanos yeah and she fucking snap his arm right and it was kind of like brutal another arm snapping brutal scene where you're like all right this one's a little more adult than the movies i guess yeah that that's actually put it a lot built the movie and i i wrote this here i always geek out when i see the title card after a big scene i'm like oh shit we didn't get the title card yet and i don't know like the title cards aren't like always that great but just something about opening with it with such like a great scene it always just gets me a little more hyped up at the end um and uh

any any johnny tweeted this to me he was trying to think of like my alliteration for the serum instead of roid rage serum psychosis that kind of works like he had fucking see the i am captain america that shit was like it was the opposite of 20 stars saying i am iron man just all calm and cool like he said it was such anger and uh it was again i don't know if it's the super serum is different or it's just the way john walker his like character is this is bringing it up whatever it may be i could definitely see it be being a more unstable version of the super serum but the thing is all is, all the Flag Smashers don't have that kind of rage in them, right? I think that might be more of a John Walker thing.

Now, granted, his best friend did just die in front of his face. But that was kind of tough. Sam asking for the shield and then Bucky getting the shield. I kind of like that whole dynamic of all that. Was this a tough one for you as a Cap guy, seeing that shield kind of getting thrown around and a guy unworthy of it having it? And it's got blood on it the whole time.

That blood is starting to dry on the shield. And it's just like, yeah. I mean, not even just this episode, not even just this scene, the entire episode was a bit hard to swallow as a Cap guy. Like, like man this shield's got some fucking shit cooked into it that i didn't know it had cooked into it yeah exactly um i gotta say this about sean walker motherfucker plays for keeps he tried to fucking decapitate sam like three times yeah that's his move listen he was seeing red at this point he was just like not even knowing what he was doing, I don't think.

You know, this is a throwback reference here. But remember the first time you learned in, I don't know if it was WDF No Mercy or NWO Revenge or whatever, when you could do the nut shot with a guy and go, that's him. He just learned he can fucking murder someone by bashing their like throat with the shield and he's just gonna keep doing it over and over again so i i you're gonna learn this is kind of fucked up i kind of started liking john walker a little bit more than we'll get into it we'll get into it not for like the reasons that you would think like there was a few things i liked about it uh and this is this was tough to admit but i have to admit it when bucky

got that shield i got a little worried i got a little worried i'm still how he still has that fucking secret zemo code word in his head and i don't want that shield going into that arm at the wrong time when it's being weaponized for the wrong reason um but uh like you said and that's the other thing this episode now so like that that scene i was like that was a really good scene and we've talked about kind of the the reaction to the series so far and i think some people like it i think it's kind of got up and down but i think the last two episodes is definitely trending up right you just threw out the penultimate word there this scene just gained another point in my book it just moved up a letter grade just because it was the penultimate

the way to kick off the penultimate episode we're gonna remember this scene so uh thumbs up from this awesome fight sequence here the grc is on the hunt for carly we know this from sam talking about it in this uh he's in at one of the places that they were being sheltered and she's just doing well evading them they're like we're never gonna catch this girl torres returns we haven't seen torres in a few episodes he gives them the status report on everyone Sam winds up giving him the broken wings which definitely we said in the first episode we saw him right that he's Falcons like sidekick in the comics definitely setting up for that in the future like ah keep him it's like all right well he's gonna make those wings his own soon I thought that was a nice little touch

and then we cut to John Walker being stripped of his Captain America title and authority. He's talking before the government guy. He's almost trying to give a testimony. And the government guy from episode one is like, sir, you don't understand. This isn't like a court case. You don't get to give a testimony. We've made our decision. Once again, fires off the I am Captain America line.

He's like, you can't take that away from me i am captain america they're like no we we definitely can take that away from you where the people that gave you the title and give us back that shield at the earliest convenience they don't know that he doesn't have the shield at this point have you not asked him if he has the shield at this point that is a microchip in that thing you know what i mean like if you're the government you probably should have a microchip shield i can. You know what I mean? Like if you're the government, you probably should have a microchip shield. I can fucking find my iPhone. If it goes to fucking Russia,

I can like ping it. It'll make a sound and everything. Yeah. We don't know where this fucking vibranium, you know, weapon is. That is like the symbol of the country and the super soldier that, you know,

represents it. Absolutely crazy that, that they don't have a fucking microchip in that thing. This, when, falcon leaves the wings behind i was like oh this is the imagery episodes he's leaving the wings behind taurus making the wings it felt very much like that um now this is part i actually started to like walker i like that he wasn't a little bitch and shriveled up now granted what like he did was fucked up but you know everyone it seems like

everyone here is against the flag smashers well he killed a flag smasher was it like wrong yes but if the flag smashers are really bad as you guys tell me which i'm still not 100 sure about then like i don't think i kind of like that it's like when you're in a fight with your parents and you feel like you're not wrong in it i kind kind of like that he fought back. And I really like that he just fucking left when they were still young. I was like, fuck you guys. I probably one or two times when I left the room was my parents were still yelling at me. And it felt good. It probably ended up worse for me than it could have if I just stayed there and take my licks, my proverbial licks.

I didn't take figurative licks from my parents. But I actually, again, like I still hate the motherfucker he's still a schmuck but i kind of respect that he went up there but you know what he had that scruff on he just looked like he was down and i my i thought i feel like we're gonna get a lot of empty pizza pizza uh boxes and chinese food cartons in john walker's apartment in like the near future because it felt like peter b parker life exactly so he's sitting with his wife or his girlfriend fiance whatever she may be to him outside of the hearing and we get footsteps approaching like high heels and we had heard leading into episode five that episode

five is a big one i actually stayed up till three in the morning for this one is the first time during the series that i stayed up because i was like hey if there's gonna be a big cameo it's someone coming back to the universe i don't want to get that spoiled and it was not someone coming back to the universe it was a big cameo i would definitely call it a big cameo none other than julie louise rifas walks over she is playing valentina allegra de fontaine and aka madam hydra in the comics and she approaches john John Walker and she sits down with him. She's like, I would have killed the bastard too. She's got like some color and a hair.

She's just Julia Louis-Dreyfus like acting from her. She's playing this character, but she's also sort of playing herself. Like she's playing that typical role that she's in, that Veep type role. And she says, you did the right thing taking the serum. Yeah, I know you took the serum. I also know you don't have the shield.'t worry about that government doesn't really own it you know that's a gray area she said that was the the second best decision you ever made in your life and the first best decision will be picking up the phone when i call and she leaves it at that and

we leave it at that with her for the episode that's all we see of her now i saw some tweets about this where they said, I can't believe that was hyped up. I can't believe her. Who is this actress that you're hyping up? Are you fucking kidding me? This is a Julia Louis Dreyfus stand show. So we're going to hear none of that.

As soon as I saw, I was like, Elaine, Elaine's in MCU. Oh my God. It was the way you texted me. It was like, I was waiting for a text.

You were like, Elaine. I was like i was waiting for a text you were like elaine i was like yes she's she's here put some motherfucking respect on elaine bennis's name people what's wrong with you i haven't even watched veep and i but you know what i know i'm gonna get a lot of shit because i just told people i've never watched because i heard it so how awesome it is and i will watch it just because I love JLD that goddamn much. She's awesome. And like you said, she plays that role where she's like,

I would have killed the bastard myself. That is a lame penis. Just fucking keeping it real. Oh, I love, I love Julia. I mean, how do you not love Julia?

Like, come on. Like, all right. Now last week, we, and what this sets up, like,

it's very clear that she's about to build a team of villains. Okay. Now fucking Julia Louis-Dreyfus is going to be at the helm of a team of villains with fucking John Walker on it. They're probably going to get Zemo. They're probably going to get Thunderbolt Ross. Like, this is the Dark Avengers, maybe. Like, if she's at the fucking front of that, this is going to be amazing. Agatha Harkness, are they going to go get her at fucking Westview? I mean, let's get it.

Let's get it, Julie. Yeah, again, like, listen, it would have... This is the thing. People think they started the Chris Evans, which I kind of brought up. I'm at the point where it's like recycling the old characters even if it is someone that's a very big part of it.

I don't think that's as good as a new character. I think a new character, which, I mean, the name Madam Hydra is fucking an awesome name, right? Let's call it what it is. And that's the good as a new character i think a new character which i mean the name madame hydra is fucking an awesome name right let's call it what it is and that's the other thing speaking of names la contessa valentina allegra de la fontaine guess what you're elaine to me i am not remembering that name at all it's just elaine oh elaine got john walker elaine dug up agatha harkness in Jersey. It's fucking Elaine to this old guy whose brain barely works these

days. I can barely keep my fucking what's his name? Battlestar. I'm still getting all the new characters down. Everyone is Flexmasher. Girl Flexmasher. Guy Flexmasher. Decapitated Flexmasher. I can't tell you anyone's name anymore.

Fucking Elaine. You are Elaine Bennis. You are nothing else. You're not La Contessa Allegra de Fontaine. decapitated flag smasher i can't tell you anyone's name anymore so fucking elaine you are elaine bennis you are nothing else you're not la contessa allegro de fontaine whatever the fuck it is um but i'm very happy to have you on the team i'm very happy to have you in the mcu and again welcome to the mcu elaine boom and you know what they don't fuck up casting in the mcu so whoever this person's gonna be based on like the little description i read about her which i i don't fuck up casting in the MCU. So whoever this person's going to be based on like the little description I read about her, which I don't know if you want to like explain to the people, like kind of what she does to people who don't know,

but it sounds like she's a fucking bad-ass. It sounds like she's awesome. I actually don't know a ton about her. I read that she was, her parents were both sleeper cell agents and then she eventually got into shield. I think she had a romantic relationship with Nick Fury. They were entangled for a while. And then it was revealed that she was working for hydra the whole time

and then it was further revealed that she was like her parents and she was a sleeper cell who wasn't working for hydra or the shield she was working for like her own uh like country in some way it sounds like a complicated history i don't really know that much about it if you're a listener and you know about Madam Hydra, send in a little description. I'll read it on the show next week. Yeah. And let's,

I think you covered the important part. She was Nick Fury's lover. Let's call it what it was. Lover. She's Nick Fury's lover. I need to have Samuel L. Jackson and Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Do you think Samuel,

is he L. Louis? Samuel Louis-Jackson, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, a couple of rival L's middle initials, just fucking like with that little sexual tension in the air? I think that would be a blast. This could be a lot of fun.

He's the like good Avengers leader. She's the dark Avengers leader. There could be a lot of fun shit because Julia Louis-Dreyfus is the world. So welcome her in, Marvel fans. Open arms. Exactly. Julia Louis-Dreyfus. That was also like when I was,

you know, starting to really understand girls and stuff like that. And Elaine is like my queen was my queen for years. She's still my queen. Let's, you know, she's fucking Julia Louis-Dreyfus. So couldn't be happier to have her on the show,

but your name is Elaine Menace. Bucky meets up with Zemo and Sokovia. He seems like he just knew where he was. We didn't even have to search for him that hard. He points a gun at his face. He fires an empty shot to kind of show him, this isn't who I am anymore. He dumps the bullets out on the ground.

I thought there was a great sequence here that I didn't even notice was great until I went on the Marvel Studios Reddit afterwards, where Zemo talks about finding a flaw in steve rogers and you know we put these people on pedestals but we realize they're just humans they have these flaws and in civil war the first time he meets steve rogers he says to him oh there's a little bit of green in your eyes it's nice to find a flaw so the fact that they're actually thinking about it that hard and i'm sure whoever wrote this episode went back and watched civil war before they started writing about zemo in this show just to get every little hint and nod

in there i thought that was great the door of melange comes and takes him away zemo crossed his own name off bucky's book understood what bucky was going for there and bucky asked the door melange for a favor as they walk away i didn't know what he was going for there and Bucky asked the door Balaji for a favor as they walk away. I didn't know what he was going to ask at this point when he's like, can you do me a favor? I was like, what the fuck is he going to ask them for later on? I was like,

Sam doesn't have wings. It makes sense. When he gave Sam the boxes, I was like, uh, um, I, I liked that scene too.

And I, I didn't pick up on the initial, uh, like symmetry to the, to the civil war line or whatever, but just such a bad-ass, like the shot too where you just see the bullets just falling on the ground and like to have a gun pulled on you is one thing to hear the click must be quite a fucking another.

I'm probably not the first time someone's done that to Baron Zemo too, just because he is such a motherfucker. I, I really, as much as I love when I hear like people like Sam who, you know, aren't exactly, they kind of understand where the flex measures are, Carly. I don't love that Zemo fucking hates Carly. It's not

a good look for my girl right there. Even though Zemo is no fucking Peach himself. Zemo calls it like he sees it, you know? Yeah, that's true true Zemo has fucking No eyes detected basically That's the gif that he is The Wakanda raft

And I heard that there's like The Thunderbolts could be something where they kind of Just leave him on the raft and stuff like that And how about our boy Bucky Getting called the White Wolf yet again I mean that's it that's like you said Anything less than Captain America And the White Wolf the next as season two of this series is gonna honestly disappoint me now we've reddited the show where it's basically you have to give us that title

card or else i'm gonna just be bummed about it um and by the way we have to shout this out too uh i'm guessing that was like baron's family or something where he was visiting like the tombs the headstone i I think so. Yeah, probably. That headstone was fucking awesome. It was. You know what I mean? It looked like a monument.

It was like a full memorial for him. A full-blown memorial. And I was going to ask, like, what kind of headstone do you want? But I thought that was a pretty dark question to ask. Listen, I've thought about it before, though, because this is a dark thing to say. I live near so many, like, cemeteries in New Jersey. I don't want one of those big guys. I was looking at him and I was like, man, those fucking big guys.

Like I'm an anxious kid. I don't want people looking at me even when I'm dead. I would rather people look at the other people. So definitely like a very tiny one, very tiny, just a little square. Give me a little SpongeBob squareob square robbie fox rock and roll i don't know wow now i mean that's the headstone that's the headstone you heard it here folks what oh man can you imagine seeing that you're walking through the cemetery to like visit your nana's spot and you're like this guy robbie he just wrote rock and roll that guy was fucking awesome

and he's you know nondescript headstone he's fucking he had the biggest podcast in the universe and he just fucking put rock and roll there what a nice guy he's so humble i i was trying to figure out if i'd want something crazy because then it's like if you're in the cemetery i mean i can't afford any of this shit but if you're in the cemetery wouldn't you think you'd want like because then it's like you just look like a bitch compared to the other thing but i guess it's if like you're a baron or a zemo you want some like legit shit i just fucking just cremate me throw me over a fucking zemo would get one of those houses that you walk into yeah you go to the cemetery and they got the little huts and it's like you walk in he would definitely have one of those i would you put it and i'd put like a tv on

we throw some sports maybe throw like super bowl 42 on you just feel like your best sports moments live those over and over again um sam goes up to baltimore to meet with isaiah bradley he sees isaiah's nephew in the street or his godson or grandson whatever you may be to him and he says what are you doing here he's like i'm going to see your grandpa he's like all right he's in the fucking back they start talking about the shield they start talking about isaiah's journey they give him the same backstory that i laid out for him when we met him earlier on in the series like from the comics like they very very much stayed true to that um without having him steal the captain america costume you know he went behind enemy lines to get his brothers back that they were testing on and they were just gonna blow up up the prisoner of war camp. He said, no way. Those are my brothers went back for him.

They put him in prison for 30 years. He had a wife during this time. They wouldn't let any of her letters get through to him. They tested on him during this time. And the wife died. He's like, I loved her so much. They threw me in prison.

My wife died. And there was a nurse that took pity on him. She declared him dead. She gave him all the letters that the wife had written him in that time and let him go live his life in Baltimore. And Sam is trying to convince him to come out with this story. He's like, brother, the times are different right now. You can come out and I can help you with this. And he laughs in his face, Isaiah Bradley does.

And he said they were the ones afraid my story was going to get out and that's why they'll never let a black man be captain america and no self-respecting black man would ever want to be captain america either they cut to the shield at that moment you know an intense focused shot and you're like fuck he really sam thought he was in a tough spot before with the like can i accept this it's bucky it's steve now he's like oh fuck now i'm getting shamed for even wanting to be captain america goes home to new orleans with his nephews at this point that he calls sarah he's like i'm coming home because he's got a lot to think about this is and i could see um the toxic side of the the internet the fan base hating that they bring

a discussion that's heavy into the falcon and the winter soldier and a discussion about race and so blatantly about race you know they're not hinting and thing on things and stuff like that we're straight up talking about it i could see them being upset i thought this was a phenomenal layer into the show another phenomenal layer into sam's character and isaiah brad's character. I feel like this is, it all made sense in the universe and in the story that they were trying to tell. So I thought this was great. I thought it was one of the best acted scenes out of both the guy that played

Isaiah Bradley and Anthony Mackie. They did a phenomenal job. Yeah. I think, I mean, especially everything that's happened, I mean, just in the last year and you can go back even further than that, but I mean, to, to, to, to just ignore that, I mean, just in the last year, and you can go back even further than that. But, I mean, to just ignore that, you know, a Captain America becoming black would just be like, it was kind of a little bit of a big deal. It's like, no, it would be unrealistic for it not to be like that. So I do appreciate it and all that kind of stuff, for sure.

And I was actually hoping we were going to get a flashback and see Isaiah go through there. I would love for a, what if, if we kind of get a, what if with him in the, in the future series, I don't know if it would be this one or if it'd be,

you know, maybe down the road. Cause it feels like it would probably be maybe more of an animated thing than an actual acted thing. Right. Unless they do it maybe in season two, Captain America and the white wolf. But again, like it, you know, you hear like hank aaron what he went through right because he was breaking babe bruce record and

that's america's pastime you're taking america's fucking hero and you're just gonna you know change the i mean i've we've vlogged i remember i blogged about stuff about iron man becoming you know a girl or a black girl or it's like you get the you see the the the craziness on one side and then the craziness on the other so it's just one of those things that they they they had to address i'm with you on that 100 but when he said that he will never let a be a black man be captain america i was like we're gonna all takes expose you isaiah and then yeah and no self-respecting black man would accept it and then i just just became Homer going back into the edges. I'm like, yep, you got me on that one.

Sam starts calling out favors. He goes back to New Orleans. He goes back to the boat and he says to his sister, Sarah, he's like, how many favors do people owe mom and dad in this town? She's like a billion. Everyone in this town owes them favors. He's like, let's cash them in. So he starts calling up everyone in New Orleans and he's like, hey, in this town owes them favors he's like let's cash him in so he starts calling up everyone in new orleans and he's like hey you remember my parents right and

you hear him on the other line like oh my god falcon anything for you man and we get another scene just like in episode one where you get to see that he's a member of his community and everyone there loves him and he's just like a good guy and he's talking to him and hugging him and it was just kind of like a wholesome scene with Falcon. And then Bucky shows up with this box from Wakanda. It looks like, you know, the nicest box ever created. It looks like it was a $5 billion suit that they made him. But his entrance into the scene was so funny when they load up like, you know, a bunch of bricks or cinder blocks onto the back of the truck.

And they're like, how are we going to get it off the back of the truck? Just one arm lifts it and then something blows up like you know a pipe burst or something kind of millennium falcon style and bucky runs over to it he fixes it and he fixes it with his human arm sam is like why why wouldn't you just use the robot arm he's like i don't know i don't think about it that much i'm fucking righty we get a montage of them fixing the boat together buckyucky sticks around. He helps him out. And then we get like basically like a fucking Heineken ad in the middle of the episode.

Did you notice that? And I cheers their Heineken's made sure the labels were facing the camera. They drank it. And since they did a Heineken ad, we're going to do a one championship ad. One championship is the world's biggest martial arts organization. And it's on TNT every Wednesday night in April. This Wednesday night at 10 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, don't miss the action-packed one on TNT3 immediately after AEW Dynamite. The best fights are on Wednesday nights.

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right after AEW Dynamite, 10 p.m. Eastern and Pacific time. And you can catch the prelims starting at 8.30 Eastern on Bleacher Report. The best fights are on Wednesday nights. I am looking forward to these fights tremendously. I love watching John Lineker fight. For a bantamweight, man, those hands are crazy. They'd be crazy for a welterweight. Let's get back into the show. This was the buddy cop show we were promised, right? I mean, the music was going in the background.

The music is great for this, yeah. It's a little like bluesy rock, yeah. Yeah, I hope that's a Louisiana band or something like that, whatever it is. the background the music is great for this yeah there's like a little like bluesy rock yeah yeah i i hope that's a new world like a louisiana band or something like that whatever it is um i love that bucky is low-key and old guy or you know someone from the you know 20s 30s 40s that's probably just handy as fuck because that's what you were back then like everyone's grandpa could just fix anything in the house because that's what they do. Then the fact that, like, what a great move by, I mean, I guess it's just how it worked out. But to have a guy make his weak hand his super hand and then his, you know, he's still a righty, though.

And here's the thing is, I don't think I could ever do anything that wasn't righty. I am so, I have such a weak left hand. Like, teaching myself how to shoot a layup was, like, the greatest thing I ever did with my left hand. I couldn't imagine, like, not relying on my right hand for basically everything in life so i love that falcon calling people and being like you know i'm using my parents i like when he's like oh hey falcon just say i'm the falcon i fucking saved you know i i guess he was snapped so he wasn't technically him but it's like hey i was part of those people that wiped that fucking phantoms battle yeah he was helping get the gauntlet to the truck or whatever.

I mean, like, yeah. He shouldn't be like, hey, you owe my parents a favor. He should be like, you kind of all owe me a favor. Yeah, you guys want to get dusted again? Well, fucking, like, I'll retire if you don't, and then we'll see what happens. So that drove me nuts. The other thing that drove me nuts, just, like, call Pepper Potts. Call Happy.

Call someone, man. It's like swallow your pride. Happy Hogan would definitely be happy to be like, no pun intended, to be like, oh, yeah, we'll get you what you need. We'll get you a fucking new boat if you want a new boat. Like how much is he asking for? Yeah. Happy spends that amount of money on jet fuel to like go from like New York to like Philadelphia or wherever the fuck he goes. So that just like – that was another one of those things.

He's got too much pride man he yeah you know he chose against tony on the civil war side and he's like ah fuck i can't call him now and and that was kind of the one thing i could understand though because it's probably still a little bit that like weirdness about it like when um because kind of like with him and spider-man and all the different guys like uh black panther and clint right they had that weirdness and then it kind of like it squashed an end game so i i would like it if there was kind of this weird divide where everyone's still cool with each other but they still have that weird feeling just because no one's had like the the gumption to just step up and say like hey man remember that airport out that was my bad we both fucked up there uh but again like you could venmo that money in an

instant i was it i was hoping i was hoping to god like either the ship itself or one of the ships in the background was going to say theseus on it again this is this is the wandavision of me coming out um but all in all like a very fun scene and um i thought we were going to get maybe a little more of it this series but i guess that's what i also thought it was 10 episodes so um i'm happy that was one of my favorite like scenes of the whole show of the whole series so far is just like it just was kind of just good vibes and it kind of makes you enjoy the the two guys shows about yeah it does we check in with john walker really briefly he is visiting hoskins

parents and he tells them i killed the man who did this to your son. I would never, ever in a million years let this man get away. And Lamar's mother is crying. She's like, my son was so proud to serve with you. He was so proud when you were named Captain America. I think he feels at peace knowing justice was served to the man who did this to him. And this teases, do you think John Walker is just going gonna go after carly and try to kill her in the next episode like we're gonna run into something in new york where falcon and the winter soldier

trying to stop her john walker's trying to kill her uh you know fucking uh bartok or whatever his name is he's coming and he's trying to kill falcon it's just gonna be chaos erupting or what all i could think of that entire scene was how much I hate the way he says Lamar. He just, I can only imagine how awful it is to have your child murdered by someone, but then having his douchebag schmuck of a friend just keep saying his name like an absolute dickhead. It,

that has to just be the salt in the wound there. And then like Philip Seymour Hoffman, like that, like monotone lamar so just don't be nuts the whole time i bet when he left too i'm like they're like i hate the way he says his name yeah me too i fucking hate that guy it's just you know there's just little things about your like friends or your son's friends i guess in this case that drive you nuts so i and

what do they think about the video like we know this was an international incident right they said in the beginning of the episode like captain america slaying someone on the streets it's fucking international incident do they see that i know they're devastated because their son just died but they're like right on or like i probably would be if someone did that to my kid and then they fucking went out and like murder him cold blood i'd be like let's fucking go you know now the thing is you're right it's all a lie though that he didn't even get yeah it's yeah carly's going to murder him in the first place and that cap is back poster the cap is back poster is so cringe i don't even like the word cringe the word cringe and scringe but that poster was just rough man it's rough to look at yeah we go back to the house in new orleans bucky apologizes

he says you know me and steve never really thought about what it would be to give the shield to a black man and kind of goes back to what you said like he's an old white man that was born in what the fucking 1920s of course he didn't think about that um and it seems like play baseball they couldn't play yeah they couldn't couldn't play baseball when bucky was growing up like it's a completely different world he he he should understand this more than we should though because like you would think like and again your eyes get opened about things bucky was living in a segregated world his entire fucking life it's crazy yeah so it seemed like sam like appreciated

his apology appreciated that he understands a little bit because he they got him to open up immediately he was like you still having those nightmares and bucky said all the time and in the first episode he wouldn't admit to having those nightmares but bucky said you know the fact that i still remember that means maybe the winter soldier training is still in me somewhere um he apologizes for the shield and he says you know that was the closest thing i felt the family so i'm sorry that i reacted the way I did when he threw it away. And Sam says in this moment that Steve's gone, he's like, Steve's gone. Stop looking for others to tell you who you are.

When he says that, do you think Steve is like on a secret base on the moon? Do you think he's gone back to the timeline to live out the rest of his life with Peggy? Did he just pop in to give the shield to Sam and then go back to be with Peggy? Where's where's Steve Rogers. I'll tell you what I thought. I wrote in the notes. You got to stop looking to other people to tell you who you are.

It's another person telling him that I'd say, go fuck yourself. You're telling me. Who is I say not as I do. I don't know. So I was a little thrown off, but again, I'm,

I'm sold on the captain america moon base there's one percent of bob fox that thinks he's up there on the moon maybe he's in the fucking moon base nick fury's fucking wiping his tears away thinking about the one that got away julia louis gyrifis i mean it's a fucking it's a pro session up there there's also a setup for yori in this scene where he says you know you're afraid that the winter soldier's still and you will do the work then he says i'm sure that there's someone on that list that needs closure and you're the only person that could give it to him stop avenging just give the closure that you're trying to give so that's obviously nakajima set up there i don't want to hear your nakajima slander in this

moment so we could just keep going sam goes to paint over the boat sarah says we can't do it man we can't sell the boat and sam is relieved he's like thank fucking god i don't want to sell this but and i kind of thought when she said like we can't sell it i thought he would have a moment where he's like nah come on we can do this we put so much time into it like but he was like ah thank god all right we're not selling this fucking boat this is our history for the record for the people on youtube who are watching i was biting my lip during that. I know yours, but I will save that for next week when he tries to kill Bucky.

But none this week, no slander this week. One thing I picked up on, it went down in Louisiana when Bucky woke up and the kids were playing with the shield. Gotta get a better case for the shield. I mean, like- You gotta lock that thing up. Like one of those locks where you have the numbers and you could like put them in.

Yeah. And it should be like a vibranium case or it should have like the Captain America fucking logo on it or something like that. And listen, I think it's like that nice old worn leather look is cool. Don't get me wrong. If you have a bag like that, or in college, we had a chair that was that. It was the most comfortable chair in the world, but it's the

fucking shield and again it doesn't have a microchip it doesn't have a nice case like let's do better here america what are my tax dollars going to what would you do if you were given the shield what would you do to like make it better i was thinking like what about a phone case like what if you could just place your phone like within the shield so you kind of check the time on it or if like say captain America, you know how sometimes cops, they're like go at that post and you've got to stand there for six hours. And that's just boring. Like maybe he could watch some shit that he missed out on while he was frozen in ice on the shield.

He, he probably had one of those fucking like, you know how dads put the phone on their belt. He probably had one of those like shitty cases where his phone on the shield. Oh, I love the idea of cap and i mean i guess bucky would be as well just to do it all the old guy shit except they look you know stronger and younger

than anyone you've ever met in your life you know just like strapping young men in their absolute primes i was thinking some sort of like nice embroidered thing in the shield but it's probably a little too you know pop and circumstance so i i would like that no i think you could do that i i got the when i got an ipad back in the day i got like the ipad 2 for a birthday or something i got why so serious put on the back because there's a big dark knight fan maybe you could get like something i mean you would probably put a fucking thanos quote on it defeating the purpose of it flag smash your logo just put the flag on the back of it um we get one of the coolest parts of it um we get one of the coolest parts of

the episode here and one of the coolest parts of the entire series um i feel very comfortable saying that it's a rocky style montage of sam using the shield training running i mean i expected this to break into a fucking old school gatorade commercial at some point because he was sweating so much that i was like that sweat's gonna turn green and it'll be a lemon lime Gatorade commercial at some point. Cause he was sweating so much that I was like, that sweat's going to turn green and it'll be a lemon lime Gatorade commercial, but he's just using the shield, bouncing it off of trees. He's got like padding wrapped around the trees.

He's figuring out the physics of it that don't make any sense, but also are the greatest thing in the world. And you get those horns too. It seemed like they went to the guy who was making the score and they were like, this is our fucking Rocky style montage. So give us some Rocky style music. So I love Sam.

I liked that. He was training. I like all that stuff. He's going to find, he did all that training. He's not going to use it once. Like he, it's like when loud Sean kept doing the spin move to like,

and he didn't spoon move once the entire basketball game. It's like, dude, that's just not how this shit works. I know you'd think you watch Steve fight a couple of times. I think it's how it like dude that's just not how this shit works i know you think you watch steve fight a couple times i think it's how it works it's just not how it works you're not gonna be throwing stuff off trees and playing angles you're gonna be doing completely different things i was also thinking like bro practice from the sky that's where you're gonna be he's what you don't have wings on all the time it's like how often you're gonna be on

the ground just throwing the shield around like you, you've got to get the angles from up there. Exactly. So I'll give him a mulligan. Like, he's not even technically Captain America yet, but, like, you've got to think better than that. It's like when you spend all your time in Little League, you're, like, playing it off the wall, you're throwing up in the air, trying to make diving catches. It's like, that's just not how baseball works. You can only practice balls being hit off a bat by hitting balls and fielding balls off of a bat. I also, after seeing this, though, I just want to let this be known

to the U.S. government now. Just give them the super serum. All right. I know you have at least a canister laying around somewhere. Every Captain America should have super serum. Just admit it. Just give them a hit at least. Yeah.

If you pass the test and the United, the U the United States government says, this guy is good enough to be captain America. He's good enough for the super serum. And grand, I don't think John Walker was good enough to be captain America. So that this, this still holds weight, even though the whole John Walker situation,

but if Sam is worthy of it, like I, if, if I, if I'm like, all right, you know, the fate of our country relies on this man helping us into battle and he's the symbol of our country, I want the most yoked motherfucker on the planet.

You know what I mean? If I'm coming up bottom of the ninth, two outs, bases loaded in the World Series, I want Barry Bonds, 73 home runs, whose head weighs more than my entire body at the plate there. I want roided out of their fucking minds. And like, hey, listen, we love Steve Rogers here. That super serum played a big part in a lot of the things he was able to do, right? So give this man the super serum.

I'm down with giving him the super serum. We cut to Carly and the Flag Smashers. She teams up with GSP at this point. GSP comes back into the show. We hadn't seen him since episode one when he flew away and Falcon ruined his shipment of whatever. And he just wants revenge. Carly kind of lays out this plan. You know, we're going to make sure the refugee vote never happens in New York.

And GSP's like, cool, don't care. I just want to kill the Falcon. So get me to him, and I'm cool with that. She sends off a little pinger that goes off to a bunch of phones, and then we cut to the actual meeting in New York. The government guy from the first episode is at the head of it. He seems a little scared when everything starts going red, all the lights start going off, and the Flag Smashers take it over.

He's still sus. I'm not completely convinced that he's not in on it, especially being like, you probably need someone in that room to be taking control of that kind of shit and then we get a post-credit scene for the first time in this show where john walker's seen building his own version of the captain america shield shit shit box reaction shit did you know there was a post-credit scene or i stuck around for this episode because you know people did hype up episode five and i was like ah we only got one more until the finale so i did stick around for it yeah i didn't know that until so luckily someone

had told me beforehand uh i think uh schwe 34 um so shout out to him because i would have probably i had done the fast forward a few times by By the way, that shield, I hope it fucking sucks. I hope it's just an absolute, like, Howard fucking Stark made the Captain America shield. Like, the smartest, most genius, like, inventor in the universe. I don't want, like, such a John Walker hard-o-ass move, thinking he's going to make some fucking, and I know it's going to obviously be a little roar,

and it's going to have that, like knock off captain america feel just you know cap cap cap in america he's gonna have that down to the fucking shield um but it just pissed me off as a stark guy i would love next episode for the two shields to clash and his to just fucking disintegrate like yeah make his out of vibranium you know straight up little pig with the fucking you know house made of like Straw Forgot to mention the episode goes to Credits with Sam actually like opening The briefcase

And we don't know what's in it we could assume it's probably His new Captain America suit new wings Made out of vibranium we could hope We got a whole bunch of what's in the box A lot of Brad Pitt gifts that morning From everybody GSP it just said george as the um closed captioning so it's like oh we gave him that first name yeah they spell it the same way

he does too yeah that character's name is now george bartok yeah um as all right so in my previous life i was a uh i was into you know software technology i gotta say the flex measures app is pretty good it looks to be a very well-built app. So can we at least admit that? It looks like a well-built app. It looks smooth, yeah. But I'm going into this finale here very worried about my Flag Smashers stance because I don't know what the fuck's about to take place.

There's red lights going off. People look very scared. There's a horde of people coming and the um one people one border whisper to each other that was very hydra and i did not like that one bit let's like avoid like hydra they do the whole hail hydra and see it like can we just do like some sort of like hand gesture like we like tapping the forehead like quentin richardson used to do with darius miles back and they'd be like one people one border one people one border no we have to do the fucking hydra thing like you just don't do whispers like don't do the thing that is like the part of the secret government

shit that was one of the worst sets of people in the world so i'm very nervous going into the next episode because of that um the what's in the box we got some good memes in it too i saw the john travolta smoking the cigarette and the pulp fiction was a good one yeah i like that one as well um are we thinking that that's gonna be his vibranium suit is that i think it is i think it's gotta be it's gotta be right it's gonna be like a captain america red white blue suit yeah that yeah that'd be pretty fucking sweet it'll be better than the old shit he had i'll tell you i had a hard time not laughing at the man as he was at the same suit forever too i think he's had the same suit since his first appearance so it'll be nice to just get an upgrade you know in general and those wings john walker breaking them like

cardboard like you need some vibranium bro that was a really really tough look for the and again like how are we sending our like superheroes in the battle with wings that can just be ripped off by a super soldier it's just not a good look for us yeah and wasn't that the whole thing at the end of black panther when they're like all right we're gonna open up the borders we're gonna allow our technology to be used by everybody i feel like the adventure should have got the top of the top line shit the like premiere unreleased wings you know like dibs yeah that's dibs tony stark's like dibs i own a by the jillion dollars and I'm like a technological Marvel. Everyone gets fucking vibranium.

God, it makes me so angry. I think my brain will be, end up being like the Mando suit of like next season. We're really going to fall in love with vibranium even more. All right. Before we get into the sus list and listener questions, let me tell everybody about bare bottom clothing. The return to travel is finally here, right? It looks like the world is finally starting to open up before you start

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Now let's get back into the show. All right. The first listener question comes from Nathan Hurst. This is our artist, Nathan Hurst, and you should look out for some new t-shirts. We're going to be putting out new t-shirts next week, or I guess this week, if you're listening to it. And they're awesome. I mean, the designs for them are unbelievable.

Nathan says, what are you guys wanting from this series as a whole to help change or move the Marvel Universe needle from where it has been? I thought that was a good question. It's just an overall, what are you looking for? I didn't even see. I was reading a question. Everyone on the YouTube, I'm doing the eyes emoji because there is some fucking heat coming from the multi-hearts right now. I was reading his question. I didn't even see you were that close to camera i just i flip back and said whoa um i think that's a great question

though nate i think it's what are we looking for out of it i think the show has sort of like given us gary given me at least what i'm looking for out of it and that's making the universe bigger and making characters that we didn't care about as much more focal. And they did great job of it with WandaVision. I definitely care way more about both Wanda and Vision than I did before that show. And the same thing goes for this show. Falcon and the Winter Soldier, I liked both of these characters going into the show. I like them a hell of a lot more now. I like them together a hell of a lot more now.

And then look at a character like Zemo. When he was in civil war people were pretty disappointed by him as a villain they were like he's such a great villain in the comics and he didn't get a lot of screen time in civil war he kind of just existed to cause the avengers to break up this we got everything out of zemo i've ever wanted he put the fucking mask on he was a john wick super villain in that field there were some awesome moments of comedy this is just entertaining mcu content week in and week out so i kind of feel like brendan last week when he said i'm such a marvel stan that i'm just gonna take whatever they give me and pretty much be happy like i'm more than

happy if falcon and the winter soldier i feel like i've gotten out of it what i wanted out of it yeah it gives a little bit of nuance right and i think that's kind of and especially for characters that may not have got it in just movie form and all that kind of stuff or if it was in a uh like agents of shield we've been told a million times you guys got to check out agents of shield and neither of us have seen it we both like marvel i don't know if has brandon seen it do we know no so i mean if brandon hasn't, right, it's like clearly, you know, didn't hit the mark that I'm sure they hoped it would, but it probably is a very important thing to have seen. So the fact that we can kind of get that nuance with these, like,

quote-unquote smaller characters, plus some of, like, I feel like Zemo's an important character in Marvel in general, and you kind of get a little more of him. You don't have to jam it into a two-hour movie and you have to pay 20 bucks and if you miss it or you know I just I like that we can kind of pace ourselves take our time and I do think that you said it best and I've been like saying it to people who have asked I do feel it's going to be kind of like the the one-off like comic series it's going to be a little like three-story five-story arc that you would get in the books

they can do that with the tv shows now and then you could have like those big with the glossy covers when you knew it was a big event coming that would be the the theatrical releases along with you know the origin stories and the bigger movies when they have to introduce characters but we don't need to have a falcon winter soldier movie and then they have to worry about all the other stuff that comes in with releasing a movie and and um revenue and all that kind of stuff so yeah uh just expanding the universe get julia louis dreyfus you get some cool shit and again you see the nuance too like getting the refugee shit with the blip and like getting more information about that that's what i love that's the stuff that you cut out of a movie because you're like ah we don't we probably don't need the refugee talk we have an action scene to get to in the show you're like oh no that's like what

the show is about you can't get that those gray areas without a little bit of black and a little bit of white you're mixing it up but you can't do all that in like two hours you just can't and anything unless you're fucking the maniacs at dc doing snyder cut that where you fucking have i mean that's all the movie is is is black and white. Right. So, um, yeah, I think the nuance and just kind of fleshing it out. And I think in the end,

when you look back 10 years from now, starting with this new phase, they're going to be like, wow, that was just like really well done. It's going to have a lot of the nice little flavors to make this fucking, uh, meal that we're getting.

So I'm, I'm very happy so far with the way everything's coming out with the shows. Our next question is from Brendan. He says, Sam says, Steve is gone. Do you think we see the old man, Steve Rogers in the finale or find out if he's living his life somewhere else,

or if he's actually dead? I'll say this. I don't think he's dead. I don't think we even have to worry about that because that seems like something you wouldn't just gloss over and like almost act like it never happened um that seems like a big event where when steve rogers dies we should get the funeral in the mcu unless i guess he went off to that other universe which i think is another possibility the way that they have talked about steve in this show and the way that in the first

episode they said there were conspiracies about him. Legitimately, lead me to believe that we will see him. Maybe not in the finale, but he's coming back. Like, we got those rumors Chris Evans may be coming back as Captain America. I think he's going to come back as an old man at some point. Maybe they do that thing Brendan suggested where they send time through him and make him young again. Or maybe he's just like a teacher at the Avengers Academy. They put him in like a Charles Xavier role or something. I could see that as well.

Do we see him in the finale? Yeah. I'm going to fucking go out on a limb. I'm going to say post-credits scene in the finale. We see Steve Rogers clinking a margarita with Nick Fury on the moon base. That's my guy, Bob. Sometimes you just got to bet with what you want to happen right yeah i start doing that in fantasy whenever i'm playing like fantasy football or

baseball i'm like you know what i'm just gonna pick the guy that i like or i want to root for i'll pick a giant or something or a met just to have something that i like and it's easier to root for or if i want to you know responsibly gamble at the barstool sports back or sportsbook the bec that's all it is we're just you're just betting with me balls and eddie like come on we're just exactly three guys you like yeah yeah exactly so um i'm with you and i was gonna say put them on the fucking moon base so let's go moon base my mom's base an official prediction i love that we got here. I was very happy. These five episodes, we went around,

all the crazy stuff has happened. Steve Rogers ending up in the movies. We're going to look like fucking prophets. We're going to sneak into the Barstool HQ in the middle of the night and in the KFC radio studio, like paint a little Steve Rogers on their moon. All right.

Our final question comes from Jake and he says theories on the power broker still out there, right? So he says the popular theory is Kingpin. I think Kingpin would be fucking awesome. And I know that the actor that played him in the Daredevil series who, you know, there's rumors that maybe they bring Charlie Cox in in Spider-Man or something from that series. I know Kevin Feige actually like talks very highly about those series.'s like yeah yeah we're definitely open to bringing that stuff in i know that actor wants to come back as kingpin which who fucking wouldn't want to be a part of the mcu at this point but he's been like on social media being like let's bring kingpin back so i think kingpin would be awesome i know some people have brought up justin hammer from iron man 2 sam rockwell i think that would be fucking cool too i like when you bring stuff back like that like it makes the universe feel connected like i've said it makes the universe

feel like a comic book where you're like oh my god this character's in this comic now and there's a crossover so i'm excited to see who the power broker is i think it will be someone cool i think it will be someone where we're like oh shit you're the power broker we didn't even expect that or maybe it's sharon maybe it was sharon all along imagine we get another fucking it was sharon uh he kind of had my mind blown here because i was thinking sharon or elaine was going to be the power broker kingpin this is it we're doing it again we're doing it again our hopes up for the wildest of theories yeah and i i'm not even i just know a little bit about kingpin my like i said my daughter played

the spider-man game and she said dad that looks like you and it was pingman who was rather large in the game too which made it even more uh heartbreaking to soul crusher for me by the way i i forgot that i was gonna tweet this story the other day. AJ now, he calls me big guy. He goes, hey, big guy. And I'm like, oh. And it always has like a little, like talking down connotation of me. And it's. Getting bullied in your own house over there. I'm getting fucking bullied on the block by my three-year-old.

It's unbelievable. Sometimes I'll call Trent little guy around the apartment. I swear to you. Sometimes I'll walk out of his room and be like, what's up, little guy? That picture of that selfie is one of the Trent has a low-key like unbelievable uh like barstool there you know we have the damn pictures we have the Dave pictures there's a few Trent has it might be the most underrated cache of pic cache cache of pictures that between the mugshot the little guy picture I mean the little guy I'll put it on the screen for nobody that's seen it.

But he's in this outfit that just made him look so short for some reason. It's like a hoodie and pajama pants. He looks like such a little guy. It's so funny. The hand on the hips, the 50-cent picture. There's just so many. I love Trent. I miss that little guy so much.

He's the best. That little guy is our favorite. Let's get into the Hydra list, a.k.a. the sus list for this week. The pet ultimate Hydra list, too. Pet ultimate. This is a big one. So we're staying with our top three here. Number three, I mean, John Walker, I just think he's just going to be like an old-fashioned late recruit to Hydra.

He's not going to be ever. He would be like, I can't believe I ever did this. But, you know, like I never thought, you know, we could go. I was Captain America. And this week, Hail Hydra. And now he's like a former military guy scorned by the government. Like just a combination of a bunch of bad things that you don't want put together with drugs and super serum and the whole thing. And I don't like Hydra.

Okay. I'm going to say that right now. You guys, I like Thanos. I'm a flex measure in training, all this stuff. Fuck Hydra. Fuck Hydra, okay? I'm going to say that right now. You guys, I like Thanos. I'm a flex measure in training, all this stuff. Fuck Hydra. Fuck Hydra to the day I die. If he ended up painting his shield with the Hydra logo, it would be pretty fucking cool. I can say that, right?

Damn. You just, I mean, yeah, that would be cool. That's the same thing as last week when I saw the blood on the shield. I was like, I don't want to see that, but there's a little part of me that wants to see that. It's cool. blood on the shield that was like i don't want to see that but there's a little part of me that wants to see that cool uh number two is sharon because she's into some shit right now i don't know what the fuck's going on with sharon but season like they're just purposely leaving it so she's your red herring could she the whole series could she be like she's been on the good side all along and we've been you know too skeptical we've been it's like boba you know what she did have some satellite stuff is she the astrophysicist bob is sharon the

astrophysicist i still cannot believe they threw that richards did you see that thread about the um fantastic four being the always sunny people oh yeah, yeah, I did that. I mean, that would be amazing. That would be incredible. Yeah, Sharon. Fuck that fucking Astrophys. But no, I mean, and that painting they zoomed in on. I read something on the. Did you see that thing on the Reddit?

I saw it on the Reddit. It was like the painting had like a symbolism behind it. I forget what it was necessarily. There was something about like the boat and the the people crashed and something about and it could go back to this barge of people where they're throwing these prisoners onto the boat like in wakanda and all that kind of stuff or i don't it was like it was pretty deep and i was like no i am not going down these fucking crazy rabbit holes because again the astrophysicist kind of shit. I'm not doing a Reddit thing with the Falcon and Winter Soldier except for the idiot

kind of shit I talk about on this list earlier in the podcast. I try to think to my own dumb theories or Brendan's theories usually they get me pretty good too. Those are fun. Brendan has the fun theories where he puts like a hint of realism in him just enough where you're like, oh shit

that could happen. And then when it doesn't the next week you're like, ah, what an idiot we were for believing that guy. Yeah, it was fun to believe in it. And number one on the Hydra list. Number one on the Hydra list is Elaine. You know why? Why? She has a lot of names. What's the name of this person?

Valentina, Allegra. La Contessa. I wrote it down. Yeah, I's elaine like she has she has a lot of names you know also has a lot of names el diablo the devil lucifer satan elaine is mephisto i said i hated all those theories i love all those theories bob throw the clip in of her doing the little devil from uh seinfeld maybe i'm the devil yeah mephisto elaine is mephisto putting it down now that's my prediction steve rogers is the only person who can save us from the moon base elaine is mephisto listen i have to call an end to the podcast right here and now because we're not going to get any higher than that um thank you for listening if you haven't already make sure you click that like i used to do the

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here so we said to subscribe we said the notification thumbs up give us a thumbs up right and then i want everyone to put in the comments who you think the power broker is so oh great call get crazy with it i want to see the best predictions the kingpin one blew my mind i wouldn't have even thought of that because i didn't watch daredevil so and you know he's he's only watched like the first half of season one and it was really really fucking good and i don't know why i stopped okay so so we might have to go back into that especially if the rumors start heating up before spider-man that he's in it that'd be a fun show to go back through and kind of binge we got doc ock coming in spider

man as well did you see that i know i saw that alfred molina confirmed that he was i wish that he didn't but you know what can you do it is what it is so maybe hey doc ock so everyone thinks doc ock might be the power broker and shit i wouldn't i wouldn't fucking be jack all right everyone thank you for listening thank you for watching if you're on youtube thank you to our sponsors for sponsoring this show and we will talk to you next week with the finale