My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 129 - THE KARATE KID COMMENTARY WITH ALEC SULKIN

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

Robbie and Clem are joined by friend-of-the-program Alec Sulkin today to provide a commentary track for 1984's 'The Karate Kid' starring Ralph Macchio, Pat Morita, Elisabeth Shue and William Zabka. 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com BearBottom Clothing: Use code BASEMENT for FREE SHIPPING on your first order at BearbottomClothing.com HelloFresh: Use code 12robbie at HelloFresh.com/12robbie for 12 FREE MEALS! Outro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by 3C and Barstool Sports. We are back with another movie commentary. We are going back to the 80s. We did Batman 89. Now we're going back, we're spinning back a batman 89 now we're going back we're spinning

back a little bit this is 85 i believe right like correct of 84 with us as you could see if you're watching on youtube is alex sulkin returning guest recurring guest of the show he's a friend of the basement he joins us all the time he's done actually more than one movie commentary with us as well over on the lights camera barstool page we did empire strikes back we did raiders of the lost ark with david goodman it's a great time and we are going back to do the karate kid now clem is with us as always clem it's been a long time since you've seen this right it's been way too long i mean it's it's it's an absolute class if the sulk is on barstool it means he's doing an absolute monster movie from the 80s. And I think this – hey, listen.

Empire is like my favorite maybe top three movie of all time. I don't think – I think this is in the same realm of existence, right? Top 20 or something and all-time classic. So it's been way too long, and there's no two people I'd rather watch it within the basement than you two fellows. And everyone listening at home. This was Sulk's pick. So what was this like? What was this coming to your mind? What made you want to do this?

Because I loved this one. Well, I mean, how could you not? And there are very, you know, people say, oh, this movie I can watch at any time, you know, all the time. And that's kind of true. You know, there are movies you stumble on and you're like, I can just, I can watch. I mean, The Karate Kid, like it's like strapping yourself in for such a great emotional ride.

And I can still barely connect to the person I was in 1984, 11, seeing this in the movie theater, watching this scrawny Italian kid try to make his way through a new high school. And like Jews and Italians are like a little bit close. So I'm like, yeah, that's me. That could be. And I don't know. I,

I contend and Robbie, we've talked about this. There's a scene in this movie. I'm going to tease it now that I consider to be one of the top five scenes in cinema history. I'm saying it now. And I can't wait for you to expand on that because you said it to me last night. I was actually kind of watching the movie last night. I was doing other things,

but I put it on in the background to prepare because it's been a few years for me as well. And once I got to that scene, I just sat and I watched. And afterwards, I was like, damn, chills, you know, goosebumps on your arm. So I was like, all right, all right. I can't wait to hear him talk about this. Before we get into it, everyone queue it up on, you know, whatever you may get it on. If you have the DVD, Blu-ray, you can get it on YouTube or Amazon Prime for like $3, $4. It's not streaming, so you got to rent it.

But come on, it's the Karate Kid. Fucking give Ralph Macchio some residual checks. He deserves it. Yeah, absolutely. Before we get into it, let's do one ad for 3Chi. This is the industry leader in Delta 8 THC. I know, Sulk, you're a big marijuana fan. Well, if you want to indulge in some marijuana but get a smoother high, a little less anxiety, a little less paranoia, get some 3Chi.

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I'm not sure of the cheese quotient. All right. Everyone get it queued up. We're going to do a 3, 2, 1 click, and you'll all press play at the same time. And then we will watch the karate kid together this is a great movie a great movie for uh especially if you're from new jersey because you're like yeah that's like like alex said you kind of look at ralph machia like that's me yep all right three two one click we're good all right we're pressing play that's always the

most stressful part is just making sure that it plays after we said the click thing what's your this logo reminds me of tootsie like i'm expecting tootsie to come on which is also a classic but my my question was what was the movie you think of i think ghostbusters oh great call wow i mean now that you put that in my brain it's hard to think of a different one. Ghostbusters might be the one. Tootsie was a was a silk recommendation, by the way, that I watched for the first time just a few months ago. What a great movie. I really I it's a secondhand recommendation to all the listeners. I say go watch it now. Fantastic. Maybe the best comedy ever.

Yeah, that's what you said when you when you put me onto it. I love this opening opening by the way with with the aunts and uncles from jersey oh tony don't forget uncle louis yeah and there's also i mean secretly there's no way that ralph macchio is in that car it's like they didn't need him for this day of shooting it's just like pretending that someone's in you never see him yeah so that's when mr macchio gets the day off. I love that. They're like, how do we have a kid from Jersey?

Just you know it right away. Uncle Tony, Uncle Louie, get the Parmesan in the fridge. Here we are, the Karate Kid. And that's the thing. If you make it all the way to Cali and you're like, I left the Parmesan in the fridge, like that guts you. I'm an Italian. I know like that's all I would be thinking about is when I'm going to get back to Newark to get the Parmesan from uncle Louie.

Now tell me, because I'm old, like you, are you guys hearing this or do we not hear it? No, we're not hearing it. Okay. So we don't get any of the great music.

Unfortunately, we don't know. All right. I'm out of here okay well that means maybe i can do the music we did say before listen we were trying to figure out how to do the commentary for you and you were like i don't need any sound because i know every line that this movie has there is bill conti he's the guy who gave it to us. Same guy who did the Rocky soundtrack,

of course. How many times do you think you've seen this, Sulk? I'm going to go with right around 30, maybe. A lot. Just a lot. And that's like in its entirety not just yeah i'm going upon pieces

of it i've watched this movie through so many times is that is this was this um a big cable one i'm trying to think like i feel like i know three kind of had a huge run right for a while there on cable and stuff like that but i don't know if this was maybe hbo it had a run but i feel like you could catch karate like shawshank lives on tnt right and now they've got to move to the marvel franchise um i feel like karate kid had a run too yeah it must have because i've seen it a bunch robert mark cayman is that the writer has he done in uh other stuff other than the karate kid huh well i would bet dollars for donuts that he did karate kid too i don't know factually but i'm checking on mdb live on the uh live on the pod let's do it oh god was this uh did you see this in the theater alec oh yeah was it like pretty like

it was it was it hyped like when it was coming out like you know kids your age were like like excited to see it like was this thought it was going to be like a hit in the theater and stuff like that do you remember totally and it kind of came out of nowhere because you know it wasn't like a cast that if you heard any of their names you'd be like oh i can't wait to see that ral Ralph Macchio film that's coming out. It just all came together. It came out, and critics liked it, and people liked it, and then more and more. It really generated and sustained for a while.

Awesome. There he is. Look at that. I'm shocked to see how much this writer has done, actually. He did The Karate Kid 1, 2, and 3. Yep. And then he did Gladiator, which was the 1992 fighting movie Gladiator, not Russell Crowe Gladiator.

Right, right. I always make that mistake on cable. He did Lethal Weapon 3. Oof. He did The Next Karate Kid, which I've never heard of. I think it might be a TV movie. No, but that was Hilary Swank.

Oh, was that the... Oh, yeah. I think it was... And Miyagi came back for that one. Yep, yep. And then he did The Fifth Element. Oh, I like that. He did The Transporter,

and then you'll sense a theme upon the next ones. He did The Transporter, then he did Taken, then he did the transporter which and then you'll sense a theme upon the next ones he did the transporter then he did taken then he did the transporter three um and then he did taken two then he did transporter the series and then he did taken three then he did the transporter refueled angel has fallen he kind of got into the action movies, you know. But he crushed it. He did great. Yeah. Like to work that much and to have that many things made is insane.

Yeah. Okay. So he's arriving at his apartment building here and he just karate kicked the door into this guy. Making bacon shirt. That's the first guy you meet at your new complex i know i'm gonna like it here i love to give it the outdoor courtyard feel too like he's he's in california guys just a reminder i know but also like because this place is supposed to be kind of shitty and like it is a in the valley there are lots of places like this that are soul crushing when you walk inside.

If you had to live there, you'd be like, oh. As an East Coast guy that moved out West, do you feel a special bond to this movie, especially now? Are you like, I fucking feel you, Daniel? Yeah, we came out under the same circumstances. He for karate and me for the late, late show with Craig Kilbourne. Yeah, no, I only felt like him because I wanted to be like him. You know, he was like brave and capable and seemed nice. Of course, I'm none of those things. Now, Clem, the first time you saw this, how old are you in 84 you're pretty young right i'm two so i

saw it um afterwards so probably uh i think it was at someone's house used to babysit me they would always have that on it was like a hit in their house throwing the vhs yeah and just uh do work with it one two and three we went through the whole cat i i can still like they live i live in the neighborhood now where that was and i still can like when i go when i go to their house or pass by and i still think um what's the chicago like a night and shining and i can just hear that in my head in my mind's eye my mind's here i guess that's two that's two yeah yeah that was a good one and that's just not Chicago. That's solo Peter Cetera. Oh, excuse me. Oh, wow.

I don't want to. That's a good shout. Yeah, apparently they hate each other. So that clarification, if Peter Cetera is watching, he's saying, thank you. So huge music guy. Huge music guy. Love music. I feel like that's like we talk about it every interview we do, but I love talking about it.

We should. How could you not? The the mom, by the way, looks alarmingly like my wife. And so like so much so that on her birthday one year on Instagram, you know how you have to make a post about your wife and say, here she is, my hero, my queen, all that stuff. And you have to I put in like six or seven photos to swipe through and the sixth one was just actually still from the karate kid of her her holding groceries like this and nobody nobody said anything oh it's the mom from the karate kid that's how much she looks like her i love that writers are just like us by the way way, because you know, when I text Sulk about movies,

I definitely hold you in this high regard of like, man, he's like such a, such a great writer, right? You'll figure it out that that's fake, but yeah, you talking about me writing that Instagram post.

You're like my queen, my, yeah, my hero, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Just like us. I know. Well, yeah, you have to, Oh, here he is. Let's not step on his entrance. Oh, a little blah, blah. Right. Just like us. I know. Well, yeah, you have to. Oh, here he is. Let's not step on his entrance. Oh, a little scared of him.

Why? Because he's Asian. Maybe that's wrong. And 84. Yeah, probably. We just got instantly scared of a five foot two guy. With chopsticks and flies. Yeah.

But yeah, of course we're making fun of it now but the the way these the relationship that develops between these two characters is one of the you know it's right up there with uh andy and red and rocky and mick i would say yeah there's one point in their relationship which, it's kind of like what you said before, which I'll, I'll tease that always chokes me up. And you could probably know what I'm talking about when I even say that, but every time we, when we get to that scene, I'll talk about it, but it's just like such a great moment. Yes. I know exactly what you're talking about. And by the way, this is what the eighties was all about. Just getting to the beach and playing soccer way too close to girls.

That's just in a big mass of short shorts. And of course, the famous Elizabeth Shue. Had a chokehold on the 80s for a while there. Oh, yeah. She was great. Always delivered. May have to do Adventures in Babysitting, Bob, one of these days. I haven't seen that movie in forever But that was one of my favorites

I've never seen that Really? It's fun It's a fun movie It's a nice way of saying it's not great I call Thor Ragnarok As a fun movie Oh okay yeah fair How about this i got a

haircut recently just a trim it's still long don't worry everyone um but my new hair cutter is an australian guy the entire time i was like uh that meme i sent you alec of like the kid with the veins popping out of his forehead being like do you you fucking love Taika Waititi? But I wanted to, I didn't want to do the whole time. You could have, you know, I already use that card up on an Australian band. I like,

and I didn't want to be the, you know, the American that's just like, Hey dude, do you know this Australian thing? Well, you can, I think you could get away with it somehow. Next time. Next time I'll go in with the Taika.

Yeah. All right. So he's being, his buddies are convincing him, go over and just go talk to her, man. And also this is unrealistic. Like your friends never helped you out in these situations. Yeah. unrealistic like your friends never helped you out in these situations yeah and the amount of times that this scene actually took place where there was contact like this never you just sit on the other side and be angry about why they weren't coming to you your friends actually did

whatever they could to ruin your chances of being with the girl yes absolutely okay obviously this is the apex predator of 80s bad guys, Johnny, here. I mean, we're talking about, I mean, it's literally him and Darth Vader. Two best 80s villains. Great hair. Perfect 80s hair. The jackets. It's like all the thriller-based stuff happening.

The jackets, by the way, phenomenal. I threw out a top five not too long ago of top five movie jackets. That was a good one. It's too niche, you said. How about these jackets? You could have thrown them in. You're right. The blue or the red.

And meanwhile, Daniel's dressed very simply, very plain. Yeah. Doesn't have much money. He's from Newark, New Jersey. Here come the rich. No logos on his clothing i feel like traveling in karate packs was a thing in the 80s too right i mean probably after your dojo yeah go with your dojo yeah yeah we went from you know warriors to this it's true

warriors would be a fun one to do commentary wise it's very fun yeah i actually think i put a tweet out not too long ago like what would people want to see us do and i feel like a few people threw out warriors it's one of those movies that's like in ways funnier and in ways worse than you remember like you think like oh that'll be fun we'll watch warriors then like an hour and 40 minutes later you're like i can't believe i just watched that whole movie yeah this is breaking your radio in the 80s had to be against the law that had to be against the law back a boombox come on it's like jail time and you can't do it single cassette deck by the way so it's like that's 84. The double cassettes started coming in like 87, 88. Yeah. Oh, man.

His karate strategy is off here. Yeah. When I play Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter II, I was a big sweep the leg guy. Love sweeping the leg. That's my go-to move. And the guy would fall down and you could just keep doing it. So I appreciate Johnny. I've learned to appreciate Johnny as I've gotten older. You know, I didn't love the new Mortal Kombat movie.

And when I say that, I mean, I turned it off pretty quickly. But there was a scene in it where they have Liu Kang just spam sweep the leg. And it was very funny. And like, I think it was against Kano and he just couldn't figure out how to combat it. I love the movie trope of hero fights the villain at the beginning and gets his ass kicked and has to come back later oh yeah i mean that's that's rocky three totally it's one of my favorite things in movies that's uh you know the hulk against thanos although he never really gets a second you know that was the most disappointing the most disappointing thing

to me about Infinity War and Endgame and I love both of them was that we never got to see Hulk go full Hulk nuts yeah I agree with that do we even get him in the battle scene at all like do we see him actually I think he fucks up a little bit right he gets his arm

frayed so he's kind of like in the end he's with he's with the people that get trapped underground. Rocket and War Machine. Ant-Man. Yep. Alright, so he just got his ass kicked. Is she rocking the Chris Evans

Knives Out sweater? It's a little... That's a great sweater look. That was very popular back then. That's a great, a great sweater. Look, that was very popular back then. That white. Oh, and they run over the boom box for good measure. Those.

I think her radio. Yeah, it was. Should have popped the soccer ball too. Like that's a real villain. Pop the soccer ball. Super aggressive. So here's the mom. She mom she delivers a great she gets the

information out of him in a great way there's Mrs. Sulk just you know making some scrambles that's right oh that minute maid OJ takes you back too to the 80s take off your glasses by the way Ralph Match Takes you back to the 80s. Take off your glasses.

By the way, Ralph Macchio. Macchio, I read, was 22 when this was filmed. They said they didn't believe him. Is that legit? That's wild. Oh, yeah. No, he's way older than you would think. Holy shit, he's my age.

God, I can't believe you're that young. Could I pass for... What is he playing in this uh like 17 can i pass or i bet i can yeah you can yeah bob i've thought by now you've turned 25 i feel like i've known you for like my entire life at this point 20 you're still 22 oh my god that's crazy yeah and he's the most mature person on this podcast too by the way right right here is they're playing cruel summer and i remember seeing this by banana rama i remember seeing this in the theater and when this song came on it was like i don't know why it like opened up a part of my mind i was like oh what a great song to put in here and oh my god and he was just biking to school but somehow the adding of great

music it can just instantly help what's going on in a scene that's otherwise like mundane or nothing i'm co-signing that too because when bob said we were doing karate kid that was the first like the song came to my head before like you know the crane kick or ralph macchio or miyagi i thought of this and they play it multiple times, right? During the movie. I don't actually, I don't know. I feel like it might just be a long play right there, but who knows? Maybe that's what,

because I feel like it's very power of love in back to the future where it's like, he's just skateboarding and they just start playing. You're like, Oh, all right. Like this is what he'd seen. Mr. Mundane scene did just get a lot better. Yeah. Good call. Silk, do you have a go-to favorite use of a song in a movie?

You mean, oh, you mean like if asked, like what is it? Yeah, like something like that. Like what's your favorite? Yeah. Huh. I don't think I have a go-to, but I'll think about it as we're watching. If you could come up with one.

Obviously, I feel like the chalk one that everyone loves to bring up is Tiny Dancer, Almost Famous, which is like, of course, it's amazing. Nope. You don't like that? I didn't love that movie. Oh, fuck. I know. I know. I realized.

You were going to walk off at the beginning. Now I'm going to walk off on you. Maybe I have to watch it again. I don't know. I, I, I, at the time I just wasn't buying it.

It seemed to just a little bit too precious for me. It seems to really know what a good vibe it's giving you all, you know, it gives me that good vibe. Um, do you like the Martian? Have you seen the Martian with Matt Damon? I do like that, yeah.

They use Starman by Bowie. I really love that. I loved, in a similar vein, because you brought up Bowie, I don't know if this is my favorite, but I really loved the guy in Life Aquatic singing the Bowie songs in Portuguese, I think. I haven't seen that. Yeah. Oh, you haven't seen Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou? singing the Bowie songs in like Portuguese, I think. I haven't seen that.

Yeah. Oh, you haven't seen Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou? No. Oh, I would recommend that. All right. I'll add it to the list. You know, I watch all your recommendations. Yeah, I think that's very good.

Moon Age Daydream is a good one and Guardians. Yeah. I was going to say, you know, mine is rubber band, man. When they show up in infinity war. Yeah. The theater went nuts. Yeah. James, James gun just recently said it was his choice. It was his like suggestion to throw that in as the intro,

which I think everyone kind of could have kind of guessed. Right. Yeah. Shirts versus skins, by the way, talk about eighties. Oh, so eighties. And by the way, I always did everything humanly possible to get on the shirts team uh me too brother we're gonna make that a clean sweep

the big guy never likes being uh on this on the skins team but i was it way too many i was it probably like a handful of times but i can remember every single time it went in slow motion yeah the worst i know and you i always you subtly try and control the situation and those you're like okay so i guess the guys over there will be skins and it's also part of some casual it just makes much more sense yes that's so freaking accurate how about daniel getting such like an in to talk to the girl when it just happens to be a soccer ball nearby you know it's gym class or whatever it was like and he gets the alley with an eye gets the name alley with an eye i feel like was like kind of a i don't feel like that was used a

lot as a quote back in the day i don't know why daniel with an l like a smooth you know he nailed that when he went back he looked in the mirror he's like fucking hey daniel with an l i did it he's just able to play like the new jersey version of like the all-american like aw shucks kind of kid like he's sort of like stumbling into things you know like he doesn't say i'm daniel with an l he says i'm daniel with an l like it's just all yeah and he's still got like a little chip on his shoulder. Like, you know, when he, he'll start to like get angry with Miyagi later. And yeah, he's got like that Jersey edge to him still, which makes him just a unique character.

It's not just that normal. All America, you know what he is. He's the bridge between Bruce and Bon Jovi. It's sort of the New Jersey in between. It's a perfect way to put it i always by the way very much landed on the bon jovi side of that and much to the dismay of people as i got older i didn't realize that that's you know people look at that as like oh so you don't have good taste i yeah you know it's funny if forced at gunpoint, I don't know who I'd pick between the

two of them, because I have to admit that Bon Jovi songs individually have brought me way more joy in my life than Bruce Springsteen songs. Like I like a handful of Bruce Springsteen songs and I like a handful of Bon Jovi songs, but I think the Bon Jovi songs are like a little more rocking. That was like tradition for me growing up in Jersey. He would play giant stadium once a year. We would take the whole family. My mom worked there. So she would get like a hookup on tickets, like the whole family, go see Bon Jovi in the, in the rain and the heat didn't matter the weather I've gotten sunburned there. I've gotten my clothes soaked there. I've probably seen Bon Jovi nine times in my life. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Well, see, it's weird because I feel like I would have a way worse time with that experience. Like I like to hear like, you know, when I'm driving on a summer day and they're

like, here's Bon Jovi living on a prayer like that. I'm all pissed out the window. But if I had to sit through like a two hour concert with like the the ballads and the new stuff i'd be like the new stuff is what what really hurts you yeah what hurts you yeah because he knows he can get away with the new stuff because his fans worship him totally it's you know a lot of 50 year old moms in leather oh he's got that market i love that shot by the way right there of uh the picture of him in the war. He's got the gun. She's like, all right, this guy means business. Yeah. Yeah.

He's holding an M60. Not a Rambo kind of big. Okay. Obviously. So this is the Cobra Kai dojo. The bad guys. Yeah. He thinks he's going to go there to like join because he wants to fight that blonde guy on the beach.

Johnny. Only to discover that Johnny himself is in Cobra Kai. Have you dove into the Cobra Kai show at all? What's that? Have you watched the Cobra Kai show at all? You know, it's funny. I started to and I just i don't know there's something like just i didn't i i think i would like it but i i could already kind of see the way it was developing and it was it was bothering me not because it was bad but it was because like

i didn't want to put myself through it in a weird way like I could see like, oh, okay. Daniel's going to, with good intentions, teach the bad guy. And Johnny's going to teach the, oh, I don't, I don't, it's too much math for me. I'm too afraid. By the way, this, this place is like, it's on Wilshire Boulevard in LA, Wilshire and Cloverdale. You can see the sign behind them. That's like two blocks from the family guy offices. This where they're sitting right now is currently a diner. And when it opened, I went in there and asked for the table by the window. So I, just so I could sit with this exact view.

Did they, were they, did they like kind of get it or were they just like, yeah, sure. No, I don't think they had any idea. Yeah. But it's a good diner 11 city diner shout out that's a that's a great uh commentary recommendation where else are you going to get that on a karate commentary yeah a diner that's now in a shot from karate kid and we talked about this last time you were on the show but you're now relocated back in massachusetts correct how's how's like the family guy writing going now? Is there still a large portion of the people in LA have a bunch of writers gone their separate ways and now you get to do things via Zoom? Like what's that like?

Yeah. You know, I think that we're still figuring it out. Obviously we don't have the green light to go back into the offices yet. We don't think that'll be till the fall kind of when everything, because there are a lot of people in our office.'s like you know two to three hundred people in this office just for family guy or like in the whole building uh no just for family guy and yeah family guy and american dad basically yeah together right there wow that's a that's a crazy amount of people it's a lot so everyone under the same house, though? Like animators, writers, like everyone is in the same building? Yes. Yeah.

But yes, to answer the question, I think there probably will be some remote component going forward to kind of like alleviate a little bit of that. But I think the goal is to at least be able to be back and with our friends and working together again interesting i didn't know if you were like fuck la i'm never going back ever again i mean i think it's going to be a mixture of both yeah it's like i think that we did great work on zoom it was very efficient people got a lot done So I think it's hard to argue with keeping a component like that. Yeah. This is, oh,

as a, as a little, you know, frail kid who experienced a fair share of bullying, great bump by the, uh, I don't know if Ralph Macchio did that himself or if that was a stunt. No way.

No chance in hell. Yeah. Yeah. But it is kind of a weird 80s thing it's like hey there's that new kid we don't like let's try to kill him it's like don't throw me off a cliff yeah because i come from a different state if if ralph macchio were younger let's say he were like 15, really playing a 15-year-old in this movie, and wanted to do a stunt like that himself, would they be legally allowed to let a kid take a fall like that?

Oh, that's a good question. My instinct says no. It seems to me like you have to be a guy like Tom Cruise or something. Make it like a virtuous sales pitch. My favorite ever use of a stuntman in a movie is in Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park. It was Kiss's movie. They decided to get their own movie made. It was just horrible it was like they took the script for like a made for tv movie

that was like an hour long about these kids discovering that the the person behind this park is actually manufacturing like evil people and it's like a wizard of oz type thing man behind the curtain yeah i'm sorry you shocked me when you said the kiss movie was terrible. I was just they throw kiss in and Ace Frehley was so like fucked up on drugs at the time that they couldn't get him to do all the scenes. So they had his stuntman do some of the scenes for him. And his stuntman is a black guy and it's very, I mean, he's wearing the face paint, but you, it, it's not hard to tell he's a black guy. I mean, they don't wear face paint on their neck, on their hands. If you look it up, there's just some very funny scenes of like ace freely there.

And then there's a black guy and then there's ace freely. And then there's a black guy. What are the politics of a black guy in blackface? Like, how is that even, how could that be judged? That's like, it's almost like, I don't know. You just broke my brain with that. I think we're probably a bad jury to decide. Yeah, I think so probably too.

I just like to go over and look at the hot water. I don't like to get in it. Okay. Yeah. So this is now he's showing them, okay, this is where they tried to kill me. Also, this is the weird friend who was in a lot of 80s movies, just this character type who doesn't like the new boy either. Like, she's very against Daniel on the left.

You're just too good for him. It doesn't even get to the level of you're just too good for him. It's more like it's sort of a very crude, like, he's slime. Shout out to the makeup artist on this movie. His black eye before and this both look great. And sometimes you see, like, nowadays, even in shows like A Black Eye, where you're like, yikes. I know. I know.

It's a tough thing to get right but they got it they nailed it yet another reason this movie's climbing its way checking off all the boxes yeah it's one of those things where it's just everything came together for you and this outfit that that daniel's wearing here what was he thinking camo pants plaid shirt baseball shirt under it let me tell you what if you want a better shirt you go to our friends at bare bottom clothing bare bottom has everything you need and you can help match yourself because it's all like plain clothing listen i'm no fashionista myself i'm able to take a bunch of bare bottom clothes out of my draw put it together and it looks like an outfit

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travels through all three movies in some way, shape, or form. Does it? I mean, not the same one, but just the bonsai. The idea of it, yeah. I don't know if I've ever seen three in my life. Is Macchio in it? Yeah. Three's bad, but it's like

it's bad but he's still in it and he's still decent so it's like i don't know i i'd recommend watching it at some point but yeah it has one of those insane bad guys which i kind of hated i've definitely wanted to or like i watched constantly growing up i think clem you were right about at least i remember watching karate kid 2 on cable like all the time like karate kid 2 would just always be on cable yeah um and i'm a little bit embarrassed to say that i saw the jayden smith karate kid on release day and i was really excited about it and i left the theater as a what was that 2010 i think before the summer so i was 11 i left that theater as a, what was that, 2010? I think before the summer. So I was 11.

I left that theater and I was just like, that was incredible. I loved it. I have seen it since. I retract that statement. It wasn't incredible. You were excited. I was excited. They did the backflip kick at the end instead of the crane kick.

I was just like, oh, my God. The theater, I remember, really cheered at the end of it. Like, the theater I was in loved it. So that added to the enjoyment of it. It was like I was at the karate tournament. You know, sometimes you get that experience in a theater where a movie is like, you're kind of amazed that everybody's going nuts. But by the end you're like,

that was great. Yeah. I think we talk about this all the time. Infinity Wars in my top five, it may probably top three movie theater experiences. Absolutely. The world landing back on Wakanda, like the greatest moment. Great. The place landing back on Wakanda, like the greatest moment,

great. The place exploded. That was so awesome. And just to think that you would ever be that psyched to see Thor, Rocket and Groot together. It was like crazy. Exactly. Oh, by the way, shout out to Clem for making the C4D commentary experience. As we are working on some of the greens in the movie, it sounds like he's got some people working on his bushes outside. Yeah, we've got a deck getting done and some stuff being blown away. So yeah, a little moving the bonsai trimmings.

Getting a nicer deck for the summer? Just getting fixed up. It was a little banged up. So I painted it myself five years ago. As you can imagine, imagine didn't last quite full five years so now we're gonna have the professionals handle this one it's not good for you i love a good uh good deck hang on in the summer oh yeah it sounds like i'm about to say dick hang i thought you were doing some pun there um what are you drinking Schweppes or Mountain Dew oh come on this is Canada dry the

best of the best okay hey to this poor to this Jew any ginger ale is fine any ginger ale no I'm a Canada dry or else like sometimes the uh store I go to like restocks with Schweppes or a different one um what's the other one? Seagrams. Sometimes they'll restock with one of them and I won't even buy it then. We used to have at our school infirmary, they had Shasta ginger ale and like the tiny cans. I don't think I've ever heard of that. Cool treat. I remember Shasta in school and I think some hospitals still randomly have it's the only

place i've heard of it is still as hospitals i don't know why it's in the medical world they probably reagan probably categorized it as like medicinal at some point for like some kind of tax loophole reagan famously made uh ketchup a vegetable so really it could fill some school requirement that the kids had more vegetables in their lunch at school lunches so he categorized uh uh ketchup as a vegetable what a move michelle obama cat or categorized cookies as some kind of you know unhealthy thing and they took them away in my high school. So I always was kind of upset about that. Oh boy. But that's the way you, you know what? That's how the insurrection starts. When they, when they start taking cookies away, someday those people are adults and they're

cookies. They were great, but yeah, they took them away. I've since cookies uh that i've found are the exact same ones they used to make in my high school and i know where to buy them now so i'm like all right i can still get the 50 cent cookies it's great that's the best i just halloween um by the way we're getting ready for halloween in the movie is he drinking a canada dry in a movie oh, that's got to be like a Sprite. It's a bigger. It's a Shasta. I just looked up the jersey. I was like, I got to get that jersey. And I was wondering, I didn't know if it was like Kellen Winslow or whatever. It is Wes Chandler of the San Diego Chargers.

It's a solid jersey. You bring that up. Is he a famous player? He was all right. Yeah. Not like a legend or? He was all right, yeah. Not like a legend or anything. Number three pick, I think I read. Yeah, third pick overall.

She says something ridiculous here about him. Watch what this girl says. Oh, yeah, she must be into fungus. Like, I don't know why she's into him. She must be into fungus. What an 80s put down. I could imagine DJ saying that on Full House. I know. And by the way,

this is maybe like people are going to be like, Jesus smoke more weed turtle. But when I look at this Halloween costume, I'm like, Oh my God. In the era of weed, vape pens, what a costume this is.

I would just be getting stoned in the little shower all night. Oh, that's great. It there. It's a problem getting around parties. And also when people get drunk they're going to want to start fucking with you in there they're going to start basketball yeah oh man that's so true garbage and garbage yeah yeah i know three of my friends who would

just be throwing like you know what three-quarter empty cans in there just like you're taking a shower in there, dude? And you know that the teachers would immediately be like, what are you doing in there? It's an all-time great costume. All-time great costume. Really good. Really. And shout out to mothers from New Jersey

that make homemade costumes. My mom always made homemade costumes for my siblings growing up. By the time she got to me, she was like, you could buy one my buddy was this he he did he made this costume or he bought it or something like that he had the whole like beth costume it was oh really yeah and i think like you said people were throwing shit into there by the end of the night it was college so yeah of course yeah the villain costumes that we're about to run into are iconic. Oh, great. As iconic as it gets.

Same French. Was the skull one year, too. Big Karate Kid guy looking back. Big Karate Kid guy. Yeah, it feels like a movie version of Halloween. Like too many people are going all out with their costumes. Like they're too perfect. And too many people are going all out with their costumes like they're too perfect and too many people are sticking to the halloween theme you know a lot of times people just go with pop culture nowadays i don't know how it was in the 80s maybe it was that way

i have a nephew luke who for his first few years was just like adamant that he stuck to the halloween theme we were like hey you're a big like thomas the train fan do you want to be thomas the train he's like no pumpkin we're like all right okay the next year we were like hey you're a big like thomas the train fan do you want to be thomas the train he's like no pumpkin we're like all right the next year we were like you know do you want to be uh mario you're super into mario he was like nope a bat we were like all right you know what this kid loves halloween we respect it yep he's a purist yeah and also this is another 80s trope of like the evil bad kids are smoking weed. You know, I noticed this last night is the first time I ever noticed that he's like

rolling a joint in there. Yeah. And he, they say something, there's a line about it. He's like, you know, are you rolling it up or something like that?

I love that. You know, he throws the headphones on and he wouldn't notice the massive shower curtain coming over him. No great plan by Ralph though. I know, by the way, if he hadn't notice the massive shower curtain coming over him. Great plan by Ralph, though. I know. By the way, if he hadn't been held up by that Spider-Man, he would have made it.

I think about that a lot. But he almost makes it. Yeah, you're right. And if he hadn't got tangled with Miles Morales there, he would have made it. That does look like the suit Miles buys from the Stan Lee lee costume that's right the costume shop yeah did either of you guys ever do a group costume with your friends i feel like yes but i can't remember i was always my my enthusiasm for enthusiasm for Halloween kind of waned after the age of like 10, I would say. Yeah.

Trying to think, I don't, my wife and I, we do a lot of couples costumes. We did like, um, the key master and the, uh,

gatekeeper. Yep. Finkel and Einhorn. So we, we do a lot of like pop culture, a couple of things like that as we got older, but, um,

Oh no, cancel Ace Ventura, cancel older. Oh, no. Cancel Ace Ventura. Cancel it. That's true. Yeah, that doesn't make it today, unfortunately. Yeah, I read an article about how Ace Ventura needs to be canceled because of that ending. And I was like, sorry, can't put those laughs back in my mouth.

And it's not even necessarily about the ending. Yeah, that was dumb and fine. Get rid of it. But Jim Carrey, an absolute inspired performance. I love both of those movies. I know people don't like the second one as much, but there's some moments in the second movie that are my favorite in either. He's just on fire in those movies.

The slinky scene is so goddamn funny. Yeah. When I left Ace Ventura to the theater, I was, like, legitimately disappointed because I love one so much. But the Rhino scene and the Monopoly Men scene, they fit right in with the first one. And the first one is an all-time favorite of my book. Yeah, it's so funny.

Yeah, I was, like, 21 when that came out, and I was, like was laughing uncontrollably. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to pick on the guys all dressed as skeletons right now. I'm going to get back in my vengeance. They almost killed me by destroying their joint, and let's see what happens. Well, this is a big part in the movie here because we didn't know this. We did not know that Miyagi could do this, so this is very exciting.

And then then of course the last boss he has to face oh quick work did he hit him with a triple ball shot was that a triple ball shot on the second last guy i think it was or maybe like an inside leg kick and then ball shot i could see that as the family guy uh like uh a gag where it's like this one guy always just gets taken the balls no matter what he just like four times in a row bing bing bing yeah yeah so we're gonna need to do a retake on that again four quick successive gaps to his groin by the way as i was uh preparing to do this commentary i did a little research i found this very interesting mr miyagi here is 51 years old in real life ralph macchio is currently 59 years old wow wow that's kind of weird to think about ain't it well what's weird for me is that now i'm three

years away from miyagi age dude in three years let's write a parody to this where it's you teaching me how to like write in some way and in three years we'll shoot it. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, God. Every time I remember that Back to the Future's Future was six years ago, now at this point, sadness just overtakes my body.

One was Blade Runner's Future too. It's coming up, yeah? Yeah, it's like 2023 or something. Yeah, it's weird to to think about it's all nuts he thought it was spider-man who bailed him out he thought he was miles and spider-man ended up being the one who like you said kind of lampooned him yeah you know what there was a subtle through line there that we all missed that spider-man guy it's a story within a story he's one of these one of

the many in in that spider-verse you could we could write a comic about that guy that's right uh all right he's he's getting up now so mr miyagi helped him again look at the new bruise on his cheek. It looks great. It looks real. Yep. I wonder who their makeup is. Not that I would ever recognize any name. Tell you what.

Yeah, so Miyagi had a great father who taught him a lot. And by the way, the idiot that I am, and this is of course the racist American view of the world. When I heard about, oh, he was from Okinawa, I was like, oh, it's awesome. They made up some fake place that he's from. Like it's a fictitious story. Like I had, I did not know that Okinawa was like a real place yeah i think i think that lasted through karate kid too i'm like they're going to okinawa magical land

that's so funny and you kind of get that with daniel here like he kind of gets to learn about the culture a little bit you know when he asked about the father i thought your father was a fisherman he's like no everyone knows you know karate and fish right he's getting a sense of okinawa so i'm looking up the makeup artist here death becomes her i mean that that movie required some serious makeup he series make up. He crushed that. The name, by the way, E. Thomas Case. R.I.P. Died in 2007. Damn.

Well, I hope he got some respect before he died as well. We're doing it. Tons of movies. Posthumously. Yeah. Posthumously. Is that how you say it? Yeah. You're 22. but yeah, you could posthumously. Is that how you say it? Yeah. No,

that's all right. You're 22. Started off creature from the black lagoon. And then he was in that's 54 and he was in a ton of stuff, but nothing. I guess death becomes the biggest thing. I love that line from Miyagi right there. That's Yoda.

Ask karate for defense only. Yeah. That's how a Jedi uses the force, right? Defense or knowledge. He's such a Jedi master in this movie. He is. Yeah. They should base the next, you know, whatever next spinoff Star Wars movie,

base the Jedi master on Miyagi. Oh. Make him like a samurai master, you know. Make him a mixture of Miyyagi and um what's his name from kill bill volume two um that tarantino does the voice for her with a white white beard oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember that guy a mixture of those two characters yeah well actually we got that great guy in rogue one remember? Yeah. He sort of had a similar vibe. I am one with the force and the force is with me.

Great. What an awesome movie that was. Yeah. Might be the second best Star Wars movie ever. Maybe. Wow. Are you that high on it? I loved it. We've talked about it before. I remember you

made Seth sit down and watch that, right? Yeah. Yeah. I remember you saying that. Yeah. And he liked it. And of course he had a Seth note, which was accurate and a very Seth style note where he was like, it's like, you really miss that John Williams music. Okay. You're right.

John Williams may have, my brother always says uh the most impressive career in the history of cinema i totally agree when you look at the resume absolutely because he's yeah all the stuff he's been involved with. Yep. Could not argue with that. And he's really like, we talked about film composers, the goat. There's not really a discussion around that. Right. He's like the name that comes up and then you can bring up Bill Conti.

You could bring up Danny Elfman, but like when you, when you put all their careers next to each other, it's like one is 80 movies long. And then the other two are there. Well, there's, it's funny. is 80 movies long and then the other two are there well there's it's funny there's definitely no contemporary competitor people bring up the name of uh what's his name it's like harzimmer no it's like eric corngold or something and he was from like

he did whoever did like all the errol flynn robin hood movies and a bunch of stuff back in the day and and it's funny because they play a lot of it side by side with Williams music. And you can see that John Williams was clearly a big fan of this guy because like a lot of the stuff is almost sampled. But yeah, I think John Williams takes it. I think John Williams is in a league with like Mozart and Beethoven. I mean, yeah. In terms of like writing that kind of music. Also, can we talk about, you're kind of like a sick musician. Not at all. Terrible. You post videos all the time on Instagram though, where I'm like,

this guy really knows how to play piano. Well, I have a, a lower intermediate level of playing piano. I think you're being humble. I think you're a pretty good piano player. I can pound chords for sing-alongs. That's more than most people can do. Literally, if I play through Piano Man once just pounding the chords, my hands are all clawed. I never practice at all.

It's all for the instagram videos it's like it's like annoying people who can kind of play the guitar and they always play the same six songs like i'm that way on the piano that's it that guy i'm that guy's face so yeah yeah you know all those great bass songs that you like to sit around oh shut up no in my basement no baselander in my basement. No baselander. Sit around the campfire. Yeah. You ever hear the age old, like, how do you clear room? You play bass solo.

But it's a cool instrument, believe me. That's also a thing. And people say, how do you get homeless people off the street? Put a bass player out there. Oh, if only it were that simple. I'd be out there slapping a bass lick all the time. So this scene is, okay, you see a little bit of the cruelty of the Cobra Kai dojo in this scene where the crease, the sensei orders him to hit him again.

Boink. No empathy. Nope. And that, of course, is Bobby, who ultimately becomes a conflicted Cobra Kai member. What tat are we rocking on the arm there? Is that a heart or a grenade or a grenade

that poses a heart? I can't really tell. We're going to have to get a better look at it because that is some important research. Yeah. Oh. They said...

Come on, let's forget this. That poster is a sweet poster of the tournament too. That's... I was thinking that. As soon as I saw that, I was like, that's kind of badass. You guys got to try and use that for uh rough and rowdy oh wow that's such a great call by the way just before we started recording this it's public it's on twitter pac-man jones called out the rough and heavyweight champ unbelievable i think tom segura has a joke about pac-man jones i feel uncomfortable repeating it now that uh I might be in his presence.

But he's like, if you want to know anything about Pac-Man Jones, he went into a strip club and people wound up shot twice. I sent Alec the Gary Goldman bit about the Karate Kid before this. And if you guys have never heard it or if you've never seen it, I really recommend checking it out. Gary Goldman, I think, is one of the funniest comedians out there right now. I think his special from a few years ago, The Great Depression, was just spectacular. One of my favorite stand-up specials I've ever seen.

Got to watch his Karate Kid bit because it's so funny. It was really funny the stuff about pat is so funny that like his name is noriyuki pat marita and somehow pat is the nick like the sort of nickname for noriyuki yeah like you like that bob from robert yep exactly it's it's you know right down there. So funny. All right, so now the plot's picking up here because now Mr. Miyagi has just said

Daniel's going to fight in this tournament. Like, don't beat him up until then and you'll settle this like men in the tournament. And we get a pushy little bastard comment. Yeah, you're a pushy little bastard. Pushy little bastard. That doesn't feel good. None of those words feel good.

I think we missed it. We did, yeah. It just happened. I want to get a clear look at that tattoo. 51. I still can't believe that Daniel goes, thanks for nothing to Miyagi, who fixed his bike and saved his life so far in this movie.

I just can't get over that. It's like the young kid. We all say stupid stuff when we're kids, but damn, Daniel. I just said an old meme. Damn, Daniel. I just said an old meme. That was tough. The meme, yeah. I can't believe this. I just said an old meme. Damn, Daniel. I just said an old meme. That was tough. The meme, yeah. I can't believe this.

I can't believe this. Right on Wilshire again. You know how Trent said that, what was it, Elf was the prequel to Step Brothers? Yeah. I almost want this to be the prequel to My Cousin Vinny, where it's just the same character. He goes about his life, and then he ends up getting arrested and was in a pile of fucking Bama. I don't know.

My Cousin Vinny. It's hard to say it's underrated. It's perfectly right, but anyone that knows it and loves it, I mean, I just love that movie. I feel like that should be talked about. Bob, have you seen that? I have. It was actually Grandma Fox's favorite movie ever.

Rest in peace. talked about bob have you seen that i have it was actually grandma fox's favorite movie ever rest in peace it was one that she sat me down and watched uh when i was way too young to watch it like way way too young and then when she passed away i watched it just kind of like you know like i it was recently after she passed i was like yeah i don't want to watch grandma's favorite movie kind of to remember her and i found it so goddamn funny and i was like the fact that she showed this to probably like a seven-year-old at the time was like yeah preposterous because i didn't even understand what was going on i think the only thing i remember from watching it the first time is like the train constantly passing the apartment and like them waking up from it or whatever but

man watching it as an adult what a movie and i love me some Joe Pesci. Anytime you give me Pesci, I'm in. It's a good movie. It's a fun movie. Like, there's that word again. It's a fun movie. No, I really did enjoy it. I saw it, enjoyed it, and probably haven't thought about it since. But I did like the interplay between Joe Pesci and Fred Gwynn, who played the judge, who was Herman Munster from The Munsters. By the way, I have confirmation on what the tattoo is.

I have close-ups of action figures where they've printed it on him. It's a hand holding a grenade. It's so badass. I don't know if you can see it. Oh, yeah. Nice. So that must be from his war days, you know? Yeah.

Great car here. That never gets mentioned when you talk about great movie cars. Right. But kind of a cool one and important to the plot of the movie. Important to the trust between Miyagi and Daniel. And also like, it helps that he, he cleans the shit out of it so like when it's

riding around you're like oh that's that's fresh that car fresh and clean by the time he takes it out on the night that's right i was reading that he still has the car macho macho got it as like a gift when it was all over and he still has it wow that's awesome talk about a piece of movie memorabilia we pose that question all the time what piece of movie memorabilia. We pose that question all the time. What piece of movie memorabilia would you like? If you are Ralph Macchio and you are the Karate Kid, that's probably what you fucking want. Yeah, not that screw the trophy from the tournament. No. Yeah. Okay. I wonder where that headband is right now. Do they have that in a museum somewhere? Does does machio have that is it in one of those raiders of the lost ark style storage

they hide memorabilia from 80s movies man if a place like that exists it would be my dreamland i would want to get locked in there like peter parker and homecoming it does a place like that exists it's at the lucas ranch where they have all the star wars stuff and somebody i've been there you know with my uh no big deal yeah my buddy george georgie uh yeah no there is a room and literally there a lot of them are in that exact style boxes and it's like a huge warehouse and you go through and you see oh here's this model of the millennium falcon and here are these uh you know tauntauns and here's it was

awesome that's i need to start manifesting a video tour of that place for barstool because they talk about a dream it was awesome it was i don't know i guess it's all still there of course it is uh did you see the uh seth rogan interview he recently did about meeting spielberg and lucas together no it was hysterical i think it was on stern and he said uh he had a meeting with him and uh evan goldberg right is his partner right bloom one of us they had a meeting with him and Evan Goldberg, right, is his partner. Right. One of us. They had a meeting with Spielberg and Spielberg walked in with George Lucas, like unannounced, didn't know he was going to be there.

And they were just like, oh, my God, are you kidding me? George Lucas and Steven Spielberg walking in right now. Steven Spielberg almost immediately takes a call and leaves the room. And he said this was in 2011. The meeting happened. Right. So they kind of like just made like small talk with George and they were like,

Hey man, like, how are you? And they said, George's response was not good. It's about to be 2012, which means the world is coming to an end. And it was like very serious about believing in the 2012,

like, you know, the December 21st or 12th, whatever it was. Yeah. The Mayan calendar. Yes. And they said he had like,

I think he said that George had a spaceship, but he was like, you can't. And they're like, Oh, can we come on it? And he was like, no,

like very seriously. Like, Oh no. Yeah. That's awful. Yeah. So unfortunately, you know,

maybe not a great experience for him, but it made for a great story in his book yeah that's true jesus wow creepy excited to read that i'm hearing that seth rogan's book is is very funny which isn't surprising not surprising not as surprising as those photos of him without his glasses yeah oh yeah he's heavily bandaged the whole movie here he is he's just getting beat the hell up for wrestling fans he's like the brooklyn brawler he comes out every week and he loses every week but you still love him great callback oh here they are the giant 80s sling as well.

That just looks like it was made out of like a big t-shirt. Yeah. Yeah, like a pillowcase. Yeah. Oh, no, he delivers a clap. Look at this line. Must be take a worm for a walk week. That's when he yells after him.

Got him. Oh, got him on the way out. That's nice. I'm stealing that. Next time I really want to piss someone off, hit them with that one. I mean, can you imagine if it actually had been take a worm for a walk with double burn? Yeah. That's always the worst kind of joke when you have to invent something that doesn't exist to make the joke work.

Yeah. Like a friend of ours in the family guy room, writer tom devani he's so funny he has a very distinctive way of talking and he's like wanted to tell us a joke one day one day and he was like he was like a guy walks in uh oh no before the bit he goes uh now for this bit to, you have to make the buy that there are things called clans. So it was like, he was going to do a joke about a Klondike bar, clearly. How can you make up this weird fake thing for your joke? This is a great strategic move from Daniel right here. In covering MMA, we talk about the fight IQ.

Your brilliance when you're actually in the cage. This is fight IQ building right here. This is, oh, my bully's right there. Let me grab the principal. Let me say, hey, how are you? Whatever. What are you doing here? Whatever.

Whatever he says to him. Exactly. It's a good move. Just getting a pick in front of him. Him and the bully. The Batman smokescreen out of the belt. Exactly. Okay. out of the belt. Exactly. Okay.

This is the date. Okay. The big date. Okay. Fancy. She's fancy. Yep. That's very eighties.

Fancy Mercedes in the driveway. He's in the family wagon. Yep. It's just, if you guys have, have station wagons in the family we had one that uh my family got rid of like just as i was born yeah i didn't uh we didn't have station wagons but i wasn't like a carpool service for school that was all a wooded station wagon the wooden ones i think are maybe the ugliest cars ever made. We had like the wooden minivan. Like, you know, like the fake wood side in the minivan.

We didn't have that. So ugly. But whenever you got to go in someone else's station wagon, they had the seats that were in the back. You could look at the back, which were horrendously dangerous for children to be sitting in at any point. It's hilarious that they actually built them like that, right? I know. They had seats that like faced the back, you're saying? Yeah, yeah.

And like the trunk, yeah. Yep. Holy shit. Never knew that. It was like a bench in the back that faced the back window. That's ridiculous. I know. I know.

It was so dangerous. And I remember our bus driver like speeding up over things, you know, and we were just to like give us all that thrill of kind of going he was later arrested for uh drug dealing oh wow yeah bus driver yep our station wagon driver he used to take us to like this candy store on the way to school or on the way back usually and he would be like you guys can get anything you want at veronica's the store is called veronica's like just you know go ahead and go on veronica's i'll be right back and he was doing drug deals in the alley behind it we had no idea nice that's very

otto from the simpsons right there right yeah it is yeah it really is is Otto still alive? did he get killed off? I feel, you know, there's so many Simpsons characters got killed off over the years I wonder if Otto's still breathing I don't know I have no idea don't talk about the Simpsons

fuck the Simpsons we're failing iPodcast I love the Simpsons we all love the Simpsons yeah, how could you not okay, so this is embarrassing. The car won't start. Oh, and the rich, greedy parents.

I know. Embarrassing for the mom, too. I can't believe I have to watch this in my tennis outfit. I was watching The Simpsons the other day. It's the episode where Mr. Burns is trying to kill Papa Simpson over the treasure. The treasure when they're all part of that Navy. Hellfish? Yes, the hellfish, yes. So funny. So goddamn funny.

Mr. Burns is a home run. He's awesome. Burns is great. What a great play land this is. It's so California too. Golf and stuff? Yeah, it's great. That's kind of my goal in life is to just own a mini golf course. Like that's my retirement plan.

Just own a mini golf. Nothing like this. This is way too much work. That's a beautiful retirement plan. I know. I can picture you as the guy at the front desk just being like, what color ball do you want, sweetie? I have like the same like five jokes that i recycle to like all the kids and

yeah all right old man give me give me the stick and get out of my face i kind of picture you more as you know the carl spangler bill murray from caddyshack moving moving the holes around and i picture clem to be the kind of guy where it's the 18th hole is one of those where it like sucks your ball in and you don't get it back. But if you miss, he's like, ah, take another shot.

Oh, big move. Handholding meshed fingers. That was a cool shot by the way, the, just the shot of like where you couldn't see them. You could only see their hands. I'm telling you, this director doesn't get enough credit abelson john abelson he nailed

this movie yeah that was really cool all right so question for you alec that i i texted you last night and i said i've been holding back questions to text here that i just thought of because i was like i'll save it for the pot it'll be be interesting to just ask. Do you have a billion? This is a question as not only a writer, but as a stoner. Do you have a billion concepts for movies, TV shows, anything in your mind that you're just like, eh, maybe one day I'll get to it? Do you have just a pool of a hundred ideas that you want to jump into? Well, we cut from a billion to a hundred, which I'm glad of. But no, I would say not even close to a hundred, not even 10. I would say I have, you know, like maybe three or four things that if and when, you know, someday when family guy's over and if I'm wanting to do more stuff, needing to do more stuff, there are a few ideas that I'd like to visit.

But I'm I'm pretty lazy. Like, I'm not one of those stoners who's like, I'm a stoner. Like, just so I can say it like it's legit. I'm lazy. And like I've you know, I've softly stomped grape stomped a lot of my brain cells over the years. And so, you know, I love what I do now. I get to sit there and be like a wise ass and, you know, in something that already exists. It's like such a perfect mix mesh for me right now.

I ask that because I heard musicians talking about it recently. Chris Stapleton, I think, was doing an interview and he talks about how he has like at all times, he's like, I literally have thousands of songs in the vault that I just sit there and I record songs. And I, sometimes I never plan on doing anything with them.

Sometimes they're like, you know, it's just a guitar part that I put down, but he's just constantly working. And I was like, I wonder if that applies to not only music, but TV. I'm sure for some people it does.

For me, I don't think it would. Yeah, no, I'm the anti-Stapleton in that regard. But I definitely, you know, I still like to think of comedy things all the time on this podcast. We're starting. I do this. We have this segment, me and my buddy Goldie, called Johnny Jokes, where we just look at the day's news and write johnny carson style jokes for it and and anyone who knows the carson style it's like you know you you you can end the punch line on like you know saying like he you know he tried schnitzel in fiji like it has to sound funny so it's it's like i i occupy my mind with shit like that way more

than i should because that won't get me anything or get you know nobody cares about that style anymore but i like to throw my comedic brain into something like that i suppose for like family guy it's you could it's so versatile what you could use in jokes, right? Like from cutaways to like even just the characters referencing pop culture. Like you don't, it's not like, oh, that would be a great joke, but it doesn't work for the project. Like I would assume most of the jokes you write, you could make work for a certain character. Yeah. I mean, if you think of something funny enough,

we can usually find a way to get it in there, but we do try to patrol like with cutaways and stuff, like how randomly we get into them. Let's just say you remember the South Park episode where they make fun of family guys, like being written by, you know, random balls. Well, that had a profound effect on set. Really? Yeah. Like he, he agreed with that.

And it pissed him off later after that, when we would write cutaways and he would think in his mind, like, Oh, like the South park guys were right. Like this cutaway is just so random and such a left turn. Like it, it doesn't make sense. So he makes us kind of watch how we set up our cutaways to make sure that it feels like it exists in that moment somehow like that character would set up that cutaway that way it's not just us inserting something we think is funny

holding you back from just making beatles jokes in every. Yeah. Well, kind of, no, that's, that's really interesting that like, he, he took that as like constructive criticism, I guess, in a way that like that joke. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that he saw the truth in that and he didn't, he didn't like that when he saw it in the show, especially uh so he you know when he does records and and he's recording his his different lines and setups and cutaways and things he'll he's not shy about pointing out like still makes notes for you guys yeah yeah he'll still say or sometimes he doesn't say anything you just you're keeping track of the lines he's reading. And then like you get to a setup and there's a pause and then all you hear is like the crumpling of paper moves on to the next thing. texted you, like, almost, I feel like, every week of the last season when it would hit Hulu because every episode I thought was so funny. And I love – and it was something that you said that Seth doesn't love.

But some of the fourth wall breaks in the last season of Family Guy were so funny to me. Yeah. And so, like, self-referential. And Family Guy is in such a good place right now, I think. Oh, thank you. Yeah. It was really fun this season. And I myself was obviously T-Vo-ing and watching them when they would come out on Sunday.

I'd watch them the next day. But I often found myself like, oh, that was a good one. There were a couple where I was like, I'm glad that one's over. And I'll never get it again. But yeah, it's been fun. And the fourth wall stuff, he's, it's been fun. And the fourth wall stuff, he's not against us doing it. But it just,

it's like, we can't rely on it. Yeah. I think we were coming to kind of use it as a crutch. If we didn't know how to get out of a scene or end an act or something, we'd break the fourth wall. And so we just have to be a little more judicious about how we dole that out. wall and so we just have to be a little more judicious about how we dole that out one of the all-time uh family guy fourth wall breaks is the entire episode where you had them do this you had

them do a commentary over a family guy episode which i thought was so funny oh god that well that was a that episode was a huge headache just for the reasons you'd think it was just logistically really hard to kind of sync up the fake commentary track with the fake episode that was going on underneath and like the fake episode had to have enough like comedy and story in it to kind of seem like it was real and then it was that was very complicated i could imagine yeah iconic scene just happened in the movie by the way of catching the fly with the chopsticks yes as i watched that last night i was like how the fuck did they do that how like what what was that special effect because you could see the fly in frame and then it's you clearly can't see it anymore once he grabs it with the chopsticks i think if i could

be wrong but i think if you read the imdb trivia about the movie, I think they mentioned that. And I think that it was on a string. Yeah, there was some, you know, it was it was fudged in some way, but it did look good. Let me see if I could pull it up as we're watching and paint this fence here. Another one of the main lessons that he doesn't realize he's learning right now. Not at all. And he's really being, you know, he's really being put to work here.

So he's, what has he done? He's sanded the floor. He's washed the cars. Interestingly enough, Pat Morita himself designed the Bonsai logo sewed onto the back of daniel's gi didn't know that that's a very very interesting fact about it that's great no idea he's only 51 folks i can't unsee yoda and luke right now you guys have really

i know well it's i'm sure they based it on that. Yeah. That would be a cool piece of artwork to get commissioned. Like, you know, sort of them sitting by a bonsai tree like that was framed right there. And Luke has that headband on with maybe a Rebel logo in the middle of it. Oh, that's good. I've been thinking. I'm about to move apartments in July.

I'm about to move to Jersey City. I'm about to move to Jersey City. And I want to get a piece. And I was like, is this like cringeworthy in the stoner way? But almost like, you know how Banksy does that graffiti stencil style? I want to get that of an Ewok handing a scout troop or a joint. And just kind of like a friendship, peace and love thing. And I was like, that might be too cringeworthy. Yeah, I'd hold off on that.

Yeah, might be one of those tiny ones for the desk. You know what it is? It's funny if you had suggested that, like, not at your age then, but like if I had heard about that 15 years ago, I would have been like, that's awesome. And in fact, I did, somebody gave me as a housewarming president and I put it up proudly, uh, like the three, it's like three storm trooper, just their heads and they look like Che Guevara. That's cool. And I'm like, Oh, that's awesome. But now I feel like, eh, skip it, but you're 22. So do whatever you want.

True. All right. Now he's got to paint the whole house. And this is the last straw. He's not happy about him and his jeans are not happy. His jeans are back in style, by the way. They are. They actually are. I know.

It's crazy. I mean, what a job, by the way, painting the whole house with that one brush. And he's got to do side side. Yep. Okay. So here we go. Now this is, we've, we've arrived.

We've arrived at the scene that I contend is one of the best five scenes in movies. And, uh, I hope you all enjoy this at home. He's, he's fed up. What have I been doing?

I've been washing your cars. I've been, you see this. He's been, hasn't been learning anything. You've learned a lot. Here we go. This is like a musician.

They don't want to practice their scales. They just want to learn songs, right? They want to get straight to the songs. He doesn't realize the scales are what you need to learn those songs. That's exactly right. Except on the base. You can just wing it.

Oh, come on. All right. So he's now he's saying show me that first chore i gave you oh first we get the miyagi magic yeah warms up the hands yeah oh and yeah the satisfying crack here you can hear in the shoulder and then they have an issue when Rey can do this in The Rise of Skywalker. They don't have any issue when Miyagi can do it. A little force healing. Oh, God. Don't get me started on that.

The two of you guys. I don't want to get either of you started. Missed opportunities. But you've got to get on The Mandalorian Mr. Missed Opportunities no I know I'm I'm almost at the end of season one now you're almost

a few years from us I think I said during the Empire commentary when we were together, I was like, let's do the sequels and let's just rip them apart. Cause I knew everyone else on the stream loved them. And I was like, this is one of my people right here.

I would, I would so be in for that. I probably wouldn't be hugely popular court on a corporate level. Yeah. Corporately maybe. Yeah. Yeah, corporately maybe. Good point. Good point. I mean, he's starting to get it.

He's starting to. Maybe a little bit. Yeah. He's got that face too. Like he's just got such a, the acting by him in this scene, I think is by both of them is fantastic. Yeah.

And the way that the, these varied shots is good. It gives you like a realistic sense of this karate karate. Sorry. There's a shot later on when they get to the tournament that goes handheld that I was like, that's so cool. As soon as they get to it,

they're like in the middle of this crowd and they go handheld and it makes it feel like chaotic it makes it feel like we're not used to this like i'll point it out when it happens but like you were saying the director deserves more credit totally and watching this last night talk about acting he's throwing those punches yeah those are coming in fast that's the only way it can work oh so good pull back there we go oh here we this is awesome throw the kitchen sink at him yeah he just goes off oh so great

oh look i oh and the respect so great that look i know and again, it's like a, as an audience for the audience, it's such a week, like we can do it moment. Like we might win this thing. Yeah.

Which is always such a satisfying. Him practicing as he's leaving. It's great too. And we talked about, you know, like Rocky going up the steps and you like believed in him. Like, here we go. As you know, like Rocky going up the steps and you like believed in him. Like, here we go. As a writer, like what what lesson can you take from that?

The way they built that? Well, God, you know, honestly, the writing was a very good like garnish for that scene. But that scene was all about the way it was staged, the music, the performances by those two actors and the physical karate. Seeing is believing like you're seeing all that, as you pointed out, like those are hard punches coming. It looks real. Yeah. So legit. It was really the writing that contributed to that scene was really more about the writing that's happened before that moment where like he doesn't believe it's working how fed up he was you know going back even further than that just that they started working together it was just a great payoff yeah it's definitely been used

you know since in other movies i can't think of them off the top of my head but i feel like that structure of like oh no you really are learning and you don't even realize it yes it's one that people have revisited yeah well and it was a little bit it's not quite the same but like in shawshank when uh andy tutors the sort of rock and roll inmate to get his GED. And like, he's like, this is so stupid. He crumples it up.

Like, I don't get any of it. And they're like, I was, you did pass. Great shot here. Amazing. Amazing.

One of the things, the crane kick. One of the things my like basic brain, basic New York brain never understands is like when you go, when I went to LA for the first and only time, and there's just a major city and then a beach and people go in the ocean there. And I'm like, this doesn't compute. Bob, you went out there recently too. Did you have the same kind of feelings?

It's so weird being able to go into the city and then 20 minutes later be in the ocean. Oh my God. You guys sound like the LA tourist board from the downtown to the ocean this guy attacking the bass players attacking the new yorkers come on change man i mean i changed them i live there for so long and and I think I went in the ocean once. Like it just, the ocean is not that big. The ocean back East is a much bigger draw for me. I don't know why. I feel like much more of an Atlantic purist. I guess so. I feel Pacific. What's that? You don't fuck with the Pacific.

I like it. I love, Hey, listen, I love Moana. I see it. I love, love yeah that's that's that might be the best disney movie by the way i love mo i'm glad you said that i'm a big mo like i love moana i've talked about it in the office and people are like it's not as good as frozen and they look at me like i'm crazy i love moana coley looks at me like he's like he's like the the ocean's such a crutch It just helps her whenever she needs any help It's like yeah because it's fun It's Disney magic

Yeah the force is a crutch in Star Wars Ain't it In Frozen she shoots ice out of her fingers Sub-Zero yeah I thought I would die With Lion King or Toy Story I mean if you want to consider that a Disney movie Because it was pre-Pixar purchase as the best Disney movies ever,

without a doubt. And then I saw Moana. I'm like, oh, it's not. And I've watched that movie a ridiculous amount of times because my daughter was like of the age when it came out. So we watched it. The music's great. I mean, Bob, that's your guy too.

I forgot about that. That definitely changes everything. Bob, that's your dude. I am a Lin-Manuel guy. That's, to me, Moana is by far his best work. It's so good. I mean, the main theme in it, the You're Welcome theme, the Bowie-inspired song that the crab has in it.

Yep, yep. Phenomenal. And the rocks in it. I mean, like, soul, done. Yeah, yeah. Come on, bro. He's got tattoos that move, that talk to him. It's good stuff.

I love the the mad max inspired scene with the little coconut guys oh great amazing amazing yeah every every beat it's it's almost like in the way that raiders the lost ark went from great sequence to great sequence to great sequence like moana does that too yeah there's very little wasted time in that movie no downtime great animation too just like a beautiful movie to watch all the water stuff the the glowing stuff the lava monster at the end yeah who looked like rihanna oh we never realized that when she turns into the sort of island and oh yeah oh at the end when she turns green. Yeah, she does. Yeah. The heart of Teviti.

Look at those shorts. I know. Probably back in style. Yeah. The shirt, solid. Three-quarter sleeve. Baseball tee, solid. Neverquarter sleeve baseball tee, solid. Never went out of style.

Never. Hope it never does. No, I know. It's a classic. And especially for me, a guy real skinny, can't fill out many sleeves, three-quarter shirts are very good for me. Yeah, it gives you a little extra sort of pop. I got a three quarter sleeve shirt, baseball sleeve shirt at star Wars celebration. It's my favorite shirt I own maybe.

And it's a max Rebo and it says the max Rebo band, but it looks like the blues brothers. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. You're still in that zone of loving that shit. Love it. That's great.

That's great. Yeah. There's a lot of good uh training going here from miyagi he's getting him in the right mindset yeah now he's got daniel fully committed too yep yep it's it's like a belichick player he's committed to the program we had to check that off every time you're on i feel like there's a patriots reference somewhere we got to it everyone they bought in we just did a bit on an upcoming family guy with the the bit is bill belichick's christmas album uh and mike henry does a very funny bill belichick and you know playing sweeping music and it's all stuff like you know i'm uh you know on the first

day of christmas my true love gave to me uh four million dollars and a player to be named later you know very funny making me laugh i love that do you struggle for for like writing family guy and like not putting in references to the shit that you love specifically well yeah i mean and i think i feel like that'd be my biggest struggle i would just want to like reference oasis and shit in every episode by the way that'd be great like that's what you got to go with and that's what every all the writers on the show do that they do some version of that from their own lives like something they know about something they love and then it's a discovery for everyone else or

everyone else is kind of aware of it. But you know, we have guys from Chicago on the show and they know Chicago stuff, sports better than the rest of us. And we've got a guy from Oregon who's always doing that. Like he's always talking about apples and trees and he's just got all that shit down.

And it works. it works for the show how large is the writer's room at this point how many people i god i think we're like we're over 20 it's like around 20 22 maybe that's awesome that seems like just like a fun time sitting around with like 21 other very funny people that are all kind of into the same thing that you are. We usually, it's usually similar to almost like not barstool. Cause we don't all work together in that big group setting,

but like definitely bounce ideas off of each other. Yeah, no. And also we're more similar to you guys than you think. Cause most, we spend almost the entire day in three separate rooms of like seven people and each one kind of working on a specific spot in the show that needs help. Oh,

there's the fungus. You must be into fungus. She's there at the club. He's about to regret this outfit that he picked out as well. I know. And Johnny's hair, we got to mention it here. It's absolutely stunning.

It's so perfect. It looks like the hair of a Lego figure that you can just like, plop it on. Yep. Laloid. Oh yeah. That's man. I mean,

in no world, even if you got spaghetti spilled on you, would you ever have a stain like that? No, that looks like in the WWF whenulk hogan would like blade himself way too much and you'd be like oh my god he's gonna bleed out in the ring that's what his trunks would look like was there like a spaghetti gun that they had that went off by mistake because it's possible the homer simpson makeup gun full of spaghetti and meatballs. It was like to serve in army barracks.

Yeah. But to be fair, this is what? Right after Halloween, you don't wear white after Labor Day. It's kind of his fault. That's true. Does that hold up in California? Because I don't know. Is California abides by the – those feel like an East Coast rule, but I don't know. Yeah.

I don't know. I have no idea. I never – California white might always be in style. They might be like, those are, it feels like an East Coast rule, but I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I have no idea. I never. California white might always be in style. They might be like, come on, it's Cali. And no way you don't go home and change. Like, you're sitting there in disgusting sauce. Disgusting.

One of my worst experiences ever. I went to Abu Dhabi back in January. The experience wasn't bad but um the flight home an 18 hour flight from abu dhabi to las vegas just oh horrible the guy next to me requested a drink on the plane he gets you know the little cup with no lid on it and of course falls asleep the drink spills onto my sock i had a wet sock for an 18 hour flight home. Oh God. Is there anything worse than a wet sock?

You can't do anything. You can't take it off. No. Well, I did. I went to the bathroom, I took it off and I just tried to fan it out and then I put it back on and, you know, like I wasn't going to put my bare foot in my shoe. I think that's gross. Yeah. It was a whole dilemma, but i'm here now i've made it and it was uh we got not an offer but there's gonna be a boxing match happening in saudi arabia probably this year and large was like kind of making a push he's like let's let's go to that and i was like buddy i'm never going back to the middle east i love you that'll be a solo trip for you right they have some crazy weed laws there man i'm sure

yeah you just can't bring it if you get caught with even the smallest portion it's uh four years in prison jesus wow yeah so like i'm gonna kick it back here about to be legalized in jersey it's good stuff. I thought it already was. Well, it is, but we don't have dispensers yet. Oh, got it. They're still about to come up. Because I'm heading to Jersey next weekend, so I was hoping it was all.

Okay, good. I'll be wild. Look at that. Because of your commentary on the Karate Kid, you can now plan ahead. Who knows how life works? It's crazy. That's right. A little backstory on Miyagi here for his wife as well. Yeah, you don't like seeing something like this,

but you just love a guy who loved his wife this much. I always loved Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting. You can tell he just loved his wife. It's sad, obviously, but it's just nice to see yeah yeah totally agree and also completely unrealistic yeah he's a little drunk here yeah there was something on the imdb let me pull it back up it had a little tidbit about the drunk miyagi. Here it is. When Mr. Miyagi is drunk and celebrating an anniversary, he reveals that he served in the Army in the 442nd Regimental Combat Team, the unit comprised of mostly Japanese Americans, many of whom had fought in internment camps, fought in Europe during World War II. It became the most highly decorated unit in the history of the United States military. Wow. A little fun fact for you, yeah.

That's awesome. I didn't know the Japanese made their way into Europe during the war. But it was Japanese Americans. Oh, Japanese Americans. They were fighting for us. Alec, are you a history buff? You kind of come off as a history buff at times when I, when you made me watch all the president's men,

you had some facts about that, that they didn't talk about in the movie. Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm not a history buff. I would never categorize myself that way, but the,

the things that I do know about, I enjoy learning about. So there are certain small, small things in history that i have like a slightly better than average knowledge of but for the most part i'm pretty terrible with that stuff i'm the same way in that like i'll really dive into the stuff i like everything else i can fuck off yeah exactly bob when you were going to give us the fun fact about the drunk scene i thought it was gonna be like miyagi actually you – Pat did actually drink during this to get into character.

It was like Andre the Giant. He drank 18 crafts of wine and was still able to walk home no problem afterwards. Nice. I just saw that Evan Peters did – he had a drunk scene in Mare of Easttown, the new HBO show. And they said to get the the drunk feeling he was doing shots of apple cider vinegar whoa it just seems like yeah it would give you that gross feeling yeah how healthy that is either but yeah that might get you in just sort of the spine tingling yeah shot kind of like headspace have you watched that? Either of you guys, Maravista.

I watched episode one and I feel like I kind of enjoyed it. Um, but I didn't, I would keep going. I feel like it just keeps getting better to be honest. Yeah, no, she's good. And I hear people who I trust talking about how good it is,

including you, Robbie. Oh, wow. Thank you. I always love the, the back andforth top five list between you guys. It's such a game-respect game. You guys talk it out.

I always just love watching it. I can never put together a list, and I don't want to get picked apart. I mean, Robbie knows how to do the stoolies. I said the other day, just off the cuff, because I love Die Hard. I was like, Die Hard 3 is the best third movie in the history of movies, and I'll fight to the end. And then I just have the Lord of the Rings people coming at me. Yeah. Rocky 3.

Rocky 3. And I'm like, well, guys, listen. John McClane is my idol. He's my movie poster right here. Nice. So that's my guy. We can all disagree. But I love that you guys put it out there, too.

Your mentions, I'm sure you see what comes up from just like the most harmless jack top five jackets right oh and it's always like i'm sure it's the same thing with alec like you think about your list but you don't really really think about your list like you put like a good five minutes of thought into your list where if you put 10 minutes of thought into your list you would probably have like the concrete ones but as soon as you put it out there, you'll get like five tweets right away with like your favorite shit in the world. And you're like,

ah, I know, I know. I know. It's that's a hundred percent correct. I'm always like, I fucked up. I forgot that one.

Like I forget one of the, I don't know. I forgot to mention Darth Vader in something like it was like, you know, and it was not this. I remember his best star Wars noises. Right. And you forgot to mention like Darth Vader in something. Like it was like, you know, and it was not this. I remember his best Star Wars noises, right? And you forgot to mention like Darth Vader's breath. Yes. Yeah, that's it.

And that's that was a huge oversight. Huge. And you're right. You just spend a few more minutes thinking about it. That's that mean directing all over this. These can all be computer backgrounds. Oh, yeah, this is great. That's that mean directing all over this. These can all be computer backgrounds. Oh yeah. This is great.

That's the poster. Yeah. I love the, the umpires or catchers in it, whatever he's wearing here. Yeah. And by the way, as Daniel son is preparing for the karate tournament,

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And then that's one of like, it's like blocks. Yeah. Deleted scene. This is so wholesome. Just a a two-man birthday party i know this is one of the all-time great friendship stories just in a movie like as i'm just re-watching it's just so delightful to see it all come together like this oh you know you know who does that well uh male friendship movies is um uh peter weir if you look at peter weir's film he films he's done like there was a great early 80s movie called gallipoli with mel gibson when he was like

very young it's about world war one it's a great male friendship movie it's about him and his friend getting sent off to war uh he did dead poet society which is kind of a good one master and commander which is a great male friendship story between russell crowe and paul and vision the true show he did which is not necessarily a male bonding story but he's got a friend in that that you know what you you want to root for he did the way back was his last movie in 2010 this is the scene that i was talking about before as well when i talked about just such a like damn what a wholesome moment what a wholesome scene when he asked him who made the oh where'd you get this he says my wife made it and she's like wow he says if you ever want this back i'll

give it back to you and he says like i understand and he's like i know you understand that that's great back and forth is like damn these two really are like their family at this point i know and it's it's so true and i as much as i hate hearing it you always there's like a stereotypical network note for scripts which is like add more heart and like as a comedy writer that that note is annoying. You're like, fuck that. Just add more jokes. But the truth of the matter is when you add heart in the right way and you get people performing it the right way, there's nothing better. There's no joke that can compare to E.T. and Elliot flying across the moon.

And again, this friendship here is absolutely fantastic and totally believable. You like, you don't spend a lot of time thinking like, okay, there's this high schooler and this 51 year old guy and where's the mom. And like, what's that? No,

you just buy their friendship completely. It's almost like Marty and doc. Like it's kind of weird that he's hanging around this old guy all the time, but you don't, you don't care. No, no, you totally buy that. Another, I mean, Michael J. Fox in that deserves a retroactive Oscar. They should do retroactive Oscars. They should.

I think about that all the time. It would be so great to just say, like, take it. You were trying to. that all the time like it would be so great to just say like take it you were talking about uh movies with heart when you said that right away two animated movies came to mind right away and both of them are from the team of lord and miller first of which would be into the spider verse where you look at that that's a movie with heart just all over it. Miles Morales, you want to believe in him by the end, by the what's up danger scene. And then another one, which is a recent one that I've recommended to both of you.

I don't know if either of you have watched it yet, but it's the Missiles versus the Machines. It is produced by them. I forget what the director's name is, but man, it's so funny and it's got so much heart in it. It's like a family road trip animated movie right i seriously i'm recommending that to everyone it's my favorite movie i saw in 2021 wow you did recommend that to me is it is it good for kids great for kids i took bob up on his offer i said to the wife i said we have family movie night tonight. Let's try this out because Robbie recommended it. And my six-year-old said

that was one of the best movies I've ever seen. And the parents both loved it too. And the three-year-old didn't move too much during it. So that's as good as you're going to get for him. So definitely highly recommended from everyone in my family at least. I'm stoked Sienna loved it. I feel

great recommending a good movie to the fan and it's one of those movies too that like it feels just like internet and some modern stuff so it even keeps your attention in this crazy 2021 world we're living in so yeah two thumbs up to uncle bob on that one great work hell yeah awesome i will definitely check it out let's see yeah let me know family movie night great movie jacket from daniel right here almost to the uh what is it like the james dean rebel without a cause yeah and i mean i i think it's the same i think he was actually wearing it in the scene when he got spaghetti but it's back oh you're right oh he's wearing it over his outfit over the white mrs larusso could get

any stains out. She must be using that good stuff in the 80s. Hold on. I have a jacket that probably sounded horrible on audio. I'm sorry for the listeners if you heard that. I have a jacket that I got to put on for the scene. It just looks just like that. Do it.

Man, I have to say, finding out that he is actually illegally old enough to drink in this scene, let alone drive a car, kind of kind of i know it's funny i i thought he was older than 22 but i knew he was you know an adult yep yeah this boy the saturday nights of the age looks so simple and fun all right there we go. Nice. Sort of a Kansas City Chief red kind of. Yeah. I once was so embarrassed as a kid. I'm a Washington football team fan and was raised that way. So as a kid trick-or-treating, I once went up to someone's house, and they opened the door, and they were wearing a Chiefs jersey. But just like through my mask or whatever, the colors looked reskins jersey and i was like love your jersey i'm

a reskins fan too he was like fan in front of all my friends and it was humiliating uh you could have said but the mask all right so he's trying to they're in a bad place right now because he saw Johnny kissing her and he didn't know the backstory, which is that Johnny basically mouth raped her. Yeah, he forced it like Ric Flair and Miss Elizabeth at WrestleMania eight. You had that one. but kind of a theme in avildsen movies uh rocky has been revised now with the rocky love scene where he kind of puts a little bit of a little bit too much pressure on adrian that first which he definitely does you can't argue with that yeah it's like i still i still love them every every fighting movie needs this you need just a little bit of conflict before the big match before the big fight to throw you off yep and her friends think it's his head really in

this does he is he really all the way in there her friends were so happy like oh this guy's finally out of the picture she finally made that mistake and they're like don't try it dangle stay out of here she wants no part of you yeah she called him fungus i mean how much lower you have to go how many organisms are lower than fungus i'm like the living organism mold is that the only one worse you're mold like yeah all right he's figuring out that it was an unwanted advance yeah he just figured out that she actually hit him afterwards got to feel kind of dumb after that he has very long legs yeah hey slugger i don't know if that's a good i don't know what kind of woman likes to hear yeah i come up to her hey sarge what are you talking about what up chief

seeing a water park open at night is kind of stark too i feel like they're usually closed by this point now gotta be closed at night i mean that's that's a post uh what is that hbo movie like action park it's like after that got shut down they were like all right that's way too dangerous allowing kids on those things that in the darkness i guarantee you this place is open at night it's a very california thing i would love to go to a water park at night that seems like a blast yeah well you're 22 to me that seems like a nightmare if we can go shirts and skins i think we'll so we'll be shirts you go down and skins all right so they've made up yeah winds are back pretty quickly

yeah oh there we go that might be the first kiss we've seen between them. He's going in for it. Oh my god. Little Jersey. The Gabagool. He's reaching for it. He's trying to reach down to the South Jersey there. Good 80s run on her. She's got a good 80s girl run.

Backing in after the day you get your license, that is some fucking stuff. That's a continuity error right there. There's no way he would have backed in. Oh, that's true. Oh, and now you drive it. Yeah, that you just, I would never let anyone do that.

You know, and if I were in Daniel's situation, even if it was the girl of my dreams i'd just be like i just can't do that he just gave me the key made by his wife they they dismiss her so quickly at the beginning of two like is she at the beginning of two no she's not into and they need to address it by saying like you, you know, what happened with Allie? Like, it's over. They just brush it away in one line. That's what they're going to do with Gina Carano on The Mandalorian.

I know. That's what they did. I know. Make fun of me all you want. I still watch Idol. I love it. Oh, yeah. They got rid of that kid this week. Cause he was in some video where

his friends were wearing like a, like KKK style hoods. So they're only editor on the show. Yeah. There were only five, five people left and he was one of them. He was this young kid who played country and he looked like a little intense and scary, but then the video came out and he got kicked off the show. And Ryan Seacrest starts the show he's like good evening america caleb haney was no longer with us tonight and we have four wonderful like that he's done like that just as quickly as possible get past it yeah they poochied him don't talk about i think one of the this guy here that might be steve mcqueen's. So there was an action star from the 60s and 70s, Steve McQueen. Big, like one of the biggest names in Hollywood. Sort of what the Leonardo DiCaprio character in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was sort of based on?

No. No. But there was, it was the guy, what's his name? Damian Lewis. You know, remember him? The redhead guy from Homeland. Bobby Axelrod. And Band of Brothers.

Billions. Yeah, billions. Anyway, he's in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. He does play Steve McQueen. Oh, interesting. time in hollywood he does play steve mcqueen oh yeah interesting by the way we're about to get to the uh this is a great like little back and forth about allowing both of them there with the translation and then miyagi lets out the uh you're welcome after he says thank you at the end yes um but right after that we'll get to the handheld shot which i was talking about before where it's

like a little shaky as they're walking into the gym. Let's see. Love that official shirt. I was thinking that last night as I saw it, I was like, that's kind of cool. Oh, you're right. I could smell that, Jim. I could smell it. Oh, absolutely. Those mats.

Those mats. Just like you can smell like the indoor pools whenever you see them. Yep. Oh. So that shot of them walking in, just the fact that they stayed on it, there's one shot, kind of goes up there. Just very cool. It's weird because it had a handheld feel in the middle,

but clearly it's on a dolly and a crane here. So I wonder if they were just rolling. There was a transfer or, yeah. Maybe they were rolling it over like cables to create that. Yeah. All right, first fight. What do you got, Daniel? Man, going to a legit karate meet seems like it would be a great time never been to one

myself i mean you'd go to like wrestling meets in high school i was friends with the wrestling team so i'd always go to those those are fun crowd gets really into it karate like strikes are being thrown i'm in for that yeah well that's that's you all over now yeah all right here he's coaching him up coaching him up belichick making some first quarter adjustments i love that he showed up in the suit right with the long collars as well like miyagi shows up looking like it's business everyone else is in their their workout attire yep i wanted to point out elizabeth shoe too just an outstanding outfit by her as well yeah well she she knew it was game day that's solid 80s right there that's uh giselle watching tom and if you're right and of course okay here the music starts

right here the the famous you're the best around just starts playing right now now now we're we're in it this has got to be top five eighties montages with songs, right? I mean, Rocky is obviously there. This, what else do you get? Like,

well, we got Rocky four because Rocky is in the seventies. The first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say Rocky three or four. Those were the two I would pick from.

IV is probably the more iconic one in the snow. Rocky IV has – no, but that has – Rocky IV, if you watch it again, it's like 20% montage. Well, it's got that on the beach as well, right? Him and Apollo running. Well, yeah. Well, that's III. The original III is them running on the beach. But in four, he thinks about them running on the beach. So they portray it as part of a montage.

It's when Apollo has just died and Rocky is angrily driving his Ferrari around the town, just thinking, and they use just all clips from the first three movies. So it's like, you know, I think Rocky IV is like maybe 60 minutes of original material. Yeah, it's like the Snyder Cut they were saying. I think Rocky IV is like maybe 60 minutes of original material. Yeah, it's like the Snyder Cut they were saying.

There's like an actual 17% of the movie was slow-mo shots. Just that much of Rocky IV's montage. Right. Totally true. Apparently he's redoing that, right? There's going to be like the fucking Stallone cut or something of Rocky IV, and he's taking the robot out. Really? Yeah. Oh, that robot was like Jar Jar for him? Yeah, he said he doesn't want

the robot in there anymore. Happy birthday, Pauly. I know. I always appreciated that they had the other kid who wasn't Cobra Kai or Daniel that was like, are this kid's legit too? It's not just a two-man It's an Asian kid and he does look like he's by far better than everyone in the tournament.

He's like doing major moves. Oh, he got this guy. Got him. And Miyagi, like Belichick, is just kind of stirring the whole time. He doesn't get excited. He doesn't get too upset. Nope. Stone cold.

I love Dutch. I always think that's his first name for some reason, too. He just looks like a Dutch even though that's his last name. I'm pretty sure that's Steve McQueen's kid. Very blonde. That's got to be colored. So blonde. Almost albino. Those eyebrows

messes you up. Yeah. That is something that messes you up. Yeah. That is something that messes you up. You watch the first Thor movie again. They dyed Chris Hemsworth's eyebrows for that. Really? Yeah, they didn't do it for any of the other ones. They learned their lesson. It looks weird now,

especially now that he kind of has the shorter brown or more natural hair. We had a break recently from work and and i chose to use that time by watching like phase one of the marvel cycle again i actually had never seen like the dark world or oh i think you texted me during the dark world yeah and you were like this was not great not good yeah iron man two and three were not awesome either no there were some dark days there and they some they turned it all around pretty quickly but yeah i saw dark the dark world the other day and i was like the last half hour i

was like oh wow this is the best part of the you know the end of the movie too i know i definitely have the hot take of i like the Dark World better than the first Thor just because I think the first Thor is so boring. First Thor was a lot of jockeying for Odin's place, right?

Between Thor and Loki, yeah. And I feel like Loki wasn't his full... He wasn't what we know him as now yet no he wasn't not nearly as funny exactly they didn't let tom hiddleston like have fun with the character like that show i'm looking forward to a lot i think that show is going to be awesome uh yeah it'll probably be like doctor who but with loki exactly which sounds awesome given Given the CGI budget of the MCU. Yeah. I saw something about what some show they're making for Amazon.

It's like that really it was made out of the rings. Yes. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Every episode has like a hundred million dollar budget or some shit. Crazy. This kid is just using too many aerial moves you're gonna exhaust yourself let me say this though daniel's lucky that he didn't have to face him because miyagi didn't rep him for that aerial shit that's true is that guy flipping at daniel he'd be like oh my god what the fuck i know that's a whole different chore he would have had to have him do like trim the tree.

You see him on the sidelines right now. Like he's fucking sweating. He's like, Oh my God, this guy better not be Johnny. That was the cooking scene that got deleted. It was, he was like chopping up. Yeah. The fruit Ninja. He was like in the air chopping them.

Yeah. Machio is like the, every year that I grew up the Lakers watching the Eastern conference, just beat the shit out of each other until somebody got to the finals like pistons bulls celtics bucks all just killing each other like who did magic have to play they had like the twin towers a couple times with elijah on and samson like yeah who else was even out there in the west no no one yeah the west was the lakers for so long. Are you a big basketball guy, Sagan? I mean, I'm a big basketball guy from like a specific era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm much more of a casual fan now.

But I still love the game, and I acknowledge that the skill level in the game today is off the charts. It's crazy. You're mainly a football guy, would you say, in terms of sports that you like? Football. I mean, I watch the Red Sox too, but definitely the Patriots, after what they've given me, of course. Of course. Oh, all right.

So here, he got illegally kicked after the sensei told him to. Bobby didn't want to do it either. He didn't want to do it. He kind of got screwed out of even having a chance to win the title. I almost feel bad for Bobby. He was ordered. He's sympathetic. What would Crosshair say, Bob? Good soldiers follow orders. That's right.

That's from the Bad Batch, the new Star Wars cartoon. Oh, nice. Is it good? It is. It's a lot of fun. If you liked the Clone Wars or, you know, if you're into that style at all, it's very much a continuation of that. But it is good. And it's something that me and Clem love is any Order 66 content.

And it begins during Order 66. And you get to see that from a different perspective, which we're in for. Awesome. Oh, that's great. Yeah, we're saying give us all Blip content, like after the blip, and then Order 66 is like the Star Wars version of that almost. Yeah, Order 66. I remember I saw that in the theater,

and when Yoda sniffed it out and beheaded those two guys, the crowd went nuts. It's awesome. Great moment. He's got that court awareness. Did you know that in the original, I think, script, or at least there was concept art, Yoda was going to meet Han Solo in Revenge of the Sith as a child?

Yeah. Which would have been a bit silly considering Han didn't believe in Jedi. Yep. Well, he wouldn't have remembered if he was really young yeah true um that boy that solo movie was a turd yeah that's that's i listen i love all star wars if you put that on i'll watch it but out of every movie they've ever made that's the one that i would want to re-watch the least yeah i just remember several times in the theater like being very kind of like angry and like like wincing through my teeth when they give him his name there's just nothing worse than that nothing worse oh you're alone huh yeah well i guess solo and then he decided for the rest of my life, that's me.

Yep. That's a terrible pun the guy made. I feel like it's good, though, because it made them pull the e-brake and be like, all right, we have to start fresh here. We've officially destroyed this franchise from the root. Yeah. I think they hired Favreau right after that came out. Legit.

I love that this guy looks exactly like someone who would run a karate tournament and makes his money running local karate tournaments. I know. This guy's outfit is stuck in the 70s while everyone else is enjoying the 80s. I also never realized Daniel's the one who asks for like, you know, the, what do they call it? The drug that you get for the NFL player starts with a T. Tryptophan?

Tortal, I think. Miyagi's giving him the tortle with the hands. Yeah. Miyagi's like, listen, we don't just break out the hands for anything, Daniel, other than your little shoulder injury. But Miyagi was just ready to call it a tournament. What's that, Miyagi? We came all this way?

I mean, I know you have a nice painted house and everything looks great, but we're here to win, Miyagi. And this is classic pro wrestling. When I look at like the pro wrestlers injured and will he be able to finish the match? Oh, we're going to send out the stretcher for him. And then as he's being wheeled up, he pushes the EMTs away and he doesn't want them and he's going back to the ring. It's great. And every time, you know, when that's done in front of a pro wrestling crowd,

people are losing their minds, just going crazy. I can't imagine watching this in the theater for the first time in 1984, never having seen this and just like feeling the energy of like, I think he's about to do it. I know. I know. But it's always, it's sketchy because he goes up 2-0 very quick, very fast. And you're like-oh, something bad's coming.

Also, it's a little questionable the points that are given out in this. Never understood that. Oh, yes. That was a great move. It was. A little sweep, back elbow. Yeah, he's got a timeout. He's got to go talk to his evil

coach. Here we go go here's the line oh sweep it i have never swept anything in my life even bad boy johnny reacts like that that's how you know it's a great reaction great reaction you can feel the conflict within zabka he looks like logan paul i never realized that until just now right there it's like oh it looks like that looks like the mayweather face off they just did yeah got your hat what a move like that's not a point for some reason yeah i super kicked him that is face. That is a point. He basically knocked him out there.

Yeah. Cowardly. He's got to chase him down. Chase him stumped. Oh, the chase, yeah. Great choreography as well where it's like, these kids look like they're really going after it. Adults, I guess.

Yeah. Road-ass men. Yeah, see, it's – It should have been – It shot very well too. You should have been ready with the crane technique then at 2-2. Like, when else are you going to use it? Yeah.

That's borderline. That's not a point. That's borderline a point. What happened there? It seems like nobody told the choreographer that there was a point system. What's that? They were just like, do a big karate fight at the end so that's not a point somehow a direct punch to the face i guess you can't do that they said but he nailed him right in the face and he's not penalized for

it and now come on if do right and still he's not ready with the crane. Oh, how's this? It's illegal, I guess, but he's not eliminated and it's not a point. They're just like, we can't have the finals end like that. I know. Miyagi got the 70s memo from the tournament director. Yeah, he did. Those collars go out to his shoulders. Major.

Get him a body bag. There it is. Oh, here we go. Get it ready, Daniel. Amazing. Miyagi's into it. Yep. Woo!

Got him. He did it. The winner. And there's your first smile from Miyagi in the whole tournament. I know. His girlfriend comes and crushes his leg. Yeah, he's like, I can't put weight on this. Stop.

Johnny's like, I hit him in the face eight different times. You didn't give me a point. He kicks me in the face once. He wins the championship. I know. Johnny's like, I hit him in the face eight different times. You didn't give me a point. He kicks me in the face once. He wins the championship. I know. What's going on? To make another WrestleMania reference, that's WrestleMania 6 for you.

Hulk Hogan, after being defeated by the Ultimate Warriors, like, give me the titles. I got to hand them to Warrior myself. We don't talk about that, Bob. You know, I'm a Hulkamaniac. You're a Hulkamaniac. I know, and I'm a Warrior. That was the worst day of my life.

And they end it right there. That was something I noticed last night too. They don't tie up anything because they don't need to. It's like, yeah, you just need to have him win the tournament and you get that smile from Mr. Miyagi. And it's like what he did. We did it. And my guess is I bet they had some other ending tacked on,

maybe some other scene of them like at home with the mom and the girlfriend and Mr miyagi like well we did it and i love you and whatever and some somebody made the right call i'm just like why don't we just end it with him like nothing that's probably right because it is sudden it feels sudden when you watch it in relation to like you know you get used to movies nowadays movies nowadays i feel like don't really end like that no maybe whiplash you get like jk simmons smiling at the end of that thing, but it's a little different.

Well, my friends, I happened to be doing my research on this as well. Wait, you're just blocked your mic. You just, can you hear me now? Yeah.

I actually had seen that they were still carrying off was supposed to be the end. And they reshot the smile, which they said helped him get, what was it like some nomination or there was a better award it was it would have been so they actually did reshoot and i love we kind of like we said with rocky where they do the flashback to start two or is it three actually right and they go back to the parking lot and all that kind of stuff two two right he does the honk yeah i i love that they

kind of i wish that more movies these days when they had the sequels would go back to the originals and you know dabble in what what had happened or what you might have missed after the credits ran totally now that now that you know everyone's interested in it you can just add something fun true and it gives you that immediate response from the audience yeah that was great time thank you for indulging me with that movie today. I love it. Love it. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for the great pick.

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He was being humble, but it's very impressive. to be disappointed i uh i thank you guys so much i love doing this so fun you guys are awesome to watch a movie with so i appreciate that yeah and the next one because when when you submitted this you submitted two movies really we're not submitted i was like what movie do you want to do and you said let's do either the karate kid or footloose yeah i don't know if i've ever seen the full footloose i've seen man i've seen clips from it a billion times growing up with a sister that was nine years older than me and growing up in the house with her and my mom but i think we got to do that at some point maybe at some point this summer sit down footloose is one of those movies that it started small and became this huge

thing that everybody knew a lot because of the soundtrack. But within the movie, like the movie that they're trying to make the story that they're trying to tell and Footloose, like they absolutely nail it. Like you could not, they could not have done it better. Like you may not like it and just be like a dancing.

I don't give a shit. But for what they were trying to do a movie about dancing in high school and all that kind of shit, done it better like it you may not like it and just be like a dancing i don't give a shit but for what they were trying to do a movie about dancing in high school and all that kind of shit they they nailed it that's a perfect piece for it and when we do footloose we're gonna have audio so you'll be able to hear the audio we'll be able to hear the audio that's a must come on yes all right we'll talk to everyone next week with another movie commentary