My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 132 - 'LOKI' EPISODE 1 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: June 11, 2021

Robbie and Clem are BACK in the Basement (in-person, as well!) to break down the very first episode of Marvel's newest Disney+ series: 'Loki' - starring Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson - and they kick the episode off with a MASSIVE announcement! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Cuts Clothing: Go to CutsClothing.com/BASEMENT for 15% off the Only Shirt Worth Wearing HelloFresh: Use code 12robbie at HelloFresh.com/12robbie for 12 FREE MEALS! Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement. My Mom's Basement in person. We're really here, Clem. We're live in the flesh. This is not a simulation.

This is not CG. Let's hug it out. Hug it out. Hug it out. This is the first time in a while and we are here to recap loki episode one this is the first time we've ever done this in person like one of these recaps so we're looking forward to it and just first impressions of loki episode one i thought it was really fucking good clem you texted me and just said this is gonna be one fun

show to talk about yep we're gonna have a lot of fun these next six weeks and i'm just i'm just so fucking excited and not only like wandavision falcon winter soldier uh i think the first two of them were i mean wandavision was like what the fuck are we watching right yeah but it was like i watched those in abu dhabi to it like three in the morning do you remember that i was all like out of sorts i was like i don't even know if what i watched was real or if that was a dream I just had yep but with this one it's like all right like not only are we're getting we're getting back to the MCU but now there's like there's more MCU stuff coming there's going to be movies coming out where those things were just kind of little oases in the pandemic desert we were living in and this one I

don't know we'll see I don't want to help up too early, but it felt like this is going to be fucking awesome. Yeah. I tweeted, I said the best pilot of all the Marvel shows. And we've been very like, you know, vocal about the Marvel shows, us loving them. But I feel like all of them did start a little bit slow. It took a little bit to set things up and Loki didn't. Loki came in hot. They were like, here we are. We got Avengers end game. We got like callbacks to the past can I say this and this I I almost tweeted this out but I I I just flat out forgot I kind of would have liked it if we woke up you know for the people who woke up at 3 a.m eastern or we wake up on Wednesday morning and there's just no episode and it's just a picture yeah I was gonna say that is that how you pronounce it that would have been a problem

with the show. That's what you've done. Yeah. But like a little Loki. It's just like his face. It's like, see you next Wednesday. You know, I thought that would have been a nice move. Kevin Feige.

Again, take some notes here. Yeah. We love you. Yeah. You could play with us like that with Loki. You know, we wouldn't appreciate it, but we'd be like, ah, I fucking got this again. It's fucking me. Because we're going to fall in love with Loki this series. Yeah.

And he's a motherfucker. Already kind of did in episode one. We already got him reliving his arc and whatnot. Spoilers if you haven't seen Loki. Jesus, if you're watching this. I mean, come on. Spoilers. Spoiler alert.

You click on episode one recap. It's like, I hope they don't spoil anything for me here. Yeah, but we saw some character development already that made me be like, all right, that's the Loki that I know and love. They took 2012 Avengers Loki. they took them into this world they started them off bad but in like one episode we got through that now we're gonna do the three chiad we're gonna do the full recap of the episode before we get into this i think we should make our announcement for all the listeners who our guest next week in my mom's basement is going to be so as far as schedule goes loki comes out every wednesday we're going to be doing reca as far as schedule goes, Loki comes out every Wednesday.

We're going to be doing recaps every Friday, like this one. If you're watching on release day, it's Friday. That'll be the same throughout the entire season. We're still going to do some episodes on Mondays. If we have guests or something this week, we have an unbelievable guest.

Clem and I have never gotten to speak with someone who had a hand in creating the MCU, but that changes on Monday. We are going to be sitting down with Michael Waldron, with someone who had a hand in creating the MCU. But that changes on Monday. Boom! We are going to be sitting down with Michael Waldron, writer and creator of Loki. Unbelievable. A barstool fan, too.

Yeah, he follows, like, he's followed all of us on Twitter forever, so it's, like, kind of crazy. And I DM'd him months ago. I said, would you be down to, like, talk about Loki once Kevin Feige gives you the okay? I was like, don't get me vaporized over asking you this. But he's like, absolutely. Like, gave me an email. I was like, don't get me vaporized over asking you this. But he's like, absolutely. He gave me an email.

He's like, let's do it. So next week on Monday, we're doing the interview. I'll edit it that day and I'll try to get it out that day as well. I think that is going to be a blast. And I'm glad it wasn't like a pre-Loki thing. We get to watch episode one so we could actually ask him about some things that are in the episode. We are going to fucking pick his brain and try to get every ounce of spoilers.

And we're going to throw a bunch of fan theories And shit at him and we're going to see what sticks Every single thing he says, every reaction will be measured And we're going to figure out what the fuck's happening We're going to make sure he doesn't Bettany us either What Bettany did to poor Jeffy Lowe Our poor king He's so good looking

Like Bettany, he's like fucking Medusa You can't look at him or you can't even hear his voice You have to like hold yours because he just fucking melts you with those good looks and that great accent. He really does. And the outfit changes mid-interview. It's like he does a Lights, Camera, Barstool interview. He's in a turtleneck. He does a KFC radio interview.

He's in a suave little, like, tan jacket like this guy. He compliments Ken Jack. So Ken Jack completely melts in his hands. So Ken Jack can't even be like, oh, fuck this guy. Nope. So this is going to be a good one, though. This is a big day for the basement. It's a huge day for the basement.

I mean, look at look at all of this. We're moving on up in the basement. It seems like there is probably mice running around just like most basements. Right. So welcome back to Barstool. The last time we did a bad battery cap, Ken Jack was the only one in here. We were remote and he was like, oh, there's a mouse. Yep.

We got a mouse running around. I think he got the mouse cam going. Now, let me tell everyone about 3G and then we can get right into Loki episode one because there is a lot to talk about. We got to get right into it. 3G is the Delta 8 leader in Delta 8 federally legal THC. They created the industry. They run the industry, and I swear by this stuff.

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That's the only thing you should be operating. Let's get into Loki. You call a clicker? No, I don't. I just called it that. You're having a weird remote. You use remotes. I didn't want to double up on what you said.

I was going to say, Bob Fox is having a weird pronunciation day so far. I wouldn't call it a clicker. You're outside your element. All right, let's get right into it. We open with Avengers Endgame, which I kind of expected to open with Avengers Endgame. No, it was Avengers 1, wasn't it? Oh, no, I'm sorry. It's like, you know, when they go back to Avengers 1 in Avengers Endgame.

So it is. Yeah, it's the whole thing. My brain. I'm not on 3C right now. My brain just like put itself in a knot because that is exactly what it is. Oh, fuck. So it's 2012 New York, though. That's what it is.

We see the original Loki being taken downstairs by the Avengers. We get to actually see the Avengers which made me turn to Trent. I watched this with my roommate Trent and I said to him, I was like did they get paid for this? Did Robert Downey Jr. get a fat check for Loki episode 1 just for them reusing the footage? I don't know. But they take him downstairs. We all know what's going to happen. If you've seen Avengers

Endgame, the Hulk bursts through that door sends the Tesseract flying. Loki grabs it, and he disappears with it. I like that you were able to hear the echoes of Thor being like, where did Loki go? Loki? And then you have no idea where he is. He winds up in Mongolia, in a desert in Mongolia. And this was great. Great way to start the episode because we get three or four Mongolians walk up to him, and he stands on a rock and immediately starts trying to rule. And he's like, I am Loki, leader of Asgard, soon to be leader of Midgard, whatever.

And in the middle of this, they're like, who are you? What's your name? We don't know. We get the TVA. Now, we don't know who these people are at first, but we see officers come through these, like, teleportation doors. And they're like, they say, say yep it seems like a standard uh time sequence violation and we're like okay these are the officers of time patrol apparently we knew we were going to get them and they say loki you have committed crimes against this sacred timeline

this is the first time sacred timeline was said i believe yep and loki says it's been a very long day and i don't want to deal with this right now i think that was written in there there to remind us that, like, this is the same day Avengers 1 happened for this motherfucker. Like, he just got put into the handcuffs. Instead of going into a jail cell, he's dealing with the TVA now. That's one of my favorite things about this is you forget Loki just tried to take over New York City or, I mean, I guess the world, basically. This was supposed to be, like, the beginning of it. He has this massive fucking army he got he got fucking hulked right where hulk just smashes him non-stop in the you know stark tower or whatever and now he has fucking time traveling weirdos just sucking him up and he's

getting shot halfway around the world he has the tesseract a lot of stuff for our guy loki here it's a rough day it's a rough day for lo. And it even gets rougher because he gets punched in 1 16th speed, which is. Oh, that's right. Oh, that's insulting. It adds insult to injury. His mouth was going, you know, flopping. She's in the lady that punched him was just like, you just got punched in 1 16th speed. Like just walked away from as it happened.

The people on YouTube just saw this idiot here trying to me. I was trying to do it with my mouth. I'll try to put that footage in slow motion or something i don't think it'll work i edit this in imovie so i don't think they have the uh the mcu capabilities but they put this grenade type thing on the ground it's kind of like a pod grenade thing it has like smoke on the inside of it and they say they're going to reset the timeline here they take loki and like like he's a prisoner he's taken to the tva he gives the front desk guy whose name is casey the tesseract and he's like what's this he's like it's the tesseract be very careful with that he says it sounds dumb and that was like the first like very funny moment

of the episode we were like all right they're still getting wacky with this this is still the mcu and he's put in front of this robot that takes his clothes from and then drops him into an office and this is what we saw in the the trailer where they say they put a stack of papers in front of this robot that takes his clothes from him and then drops him into an office. And this is what we saw in the trailer where they say, they put a stack of papers in front of him and they say, please verify this is everything you've ever said. He's like, what? Another paper prints out that says what? And also sign this as well. And it's the first DMV style scene in this episode, which we get many of. Every time he was walking through like the take a ticket thing, I was like, oh, this feels like when I went and got my passport. This feels like DMV.

It's just the dimly lit room, kind of like an ominous vibe. Very process-oriented. You can almost smell it, right? It's like a 70s dated kind of thing. I love the words coming out and the giant stack of papers. I would have looked. I would have looked, I would have definitely looked to seeing the stuff I said, you know,

start with the first word to see what your actual first word was. Then you go to like, just some of the nonsense you were saying, go to like maybe a drunk night and be like, Oh shit. Like forgot about that one. I know. So you never go back and look at your old Facebook statuses and you're like,

Ooh, that's a little cringy. Why did I say that? Crumple those up and throw them out. Right. Um, I was also thinking like, what else would you want in like, if they were also like, here's what you said.

Was there anything else? I'd love to see every time I took a piss. Just a list of that. Oh, stats? I would like to see the number of times I've seen certain movies. Like every movie I've seen and how many times I've seen that movie. What would be number one? Is it Star Wars?

It'd probably be The Empire Strikes Back. Honestly, I think Force Awakens is up there because after The Force Awakens came out, I was so high on Star Wars that I would just watch that on loop. The original Adam West Batman would be very high up there. I could quote the Adam West Batman word for word. I would watch that just constantly as a kid. That and The Phantom Menace, my sister said she got so tired of by the time I was four. You were the little brother who was doing that, huh?

Yeah. Yeah. I'd say Die Hard. Die hard's number one for me it just in terms of scene though like the portal scene from endgame it's only been a few years i've i watched that i think looking back now like a little bit of time has passed i think that's how i coped with the pandemic because i watched portals like four times a fucking day just the music everything going on you just had like that that feeling of hoping you. And that, I think, looking back now, got me through a worldwide pandemic

that was pretty fucking depressing. You know what? If we have any listeners that are psychologists, I would love for them to like do a study on the endorphins that releases in your body. Like when you watch that. There's gotta be something, you know? There's gotta be something to the Avengers music.

There's gotta be something to the Avengers assemble, the on your left. Everything about it, it was just concocted into the perfect moment. And maybe that is why when Loki gets into the argument with the judge and he's like, what? The fucking these three people are saying what is and what isn't right when we're all jumping in times months. They're like, no, that was supposed to happen. Listen, Loki, that moment was so perfect that that was supposed to happen. It wasn't supposed to fucking happen. Trust me. You didn't't get to see it but all of us that did get to see it and there's also some about like we were in the movie theater i guess around other people

it's i i almost did blog the other day what is like the greatest scene that you saw in a movie theater for the reaction and i don't know how it can be that one it's the entire stretch of like cap getting y'all near and into portals because that even was huge i remember frankie said i felt like i blacked out when cap got the hammer and frankie said he looked over at me and i was like this on my chair and i was just like and he was like what the fuck and we were in the last row of the theater so i wasn't blocking anyone but yeah i just blacked out and then by the time avengers assemble happened we it was clean up on aisle fucking 16 we needed a new pair of pants for me and frankie is in no place to be judging anyone because a bunch of random strangers

and skating on ice make him do the same exact things exactly that he got to see like i got to see lunatic frankie when we once went to a rangers islanders game together and he got to see a lunatic robbie when we went to go see avengers end game together they take the asgardian leather off of them and i just want to take this opportunity to say if they took my cuts clothing off of me oh that would have been an issue me and the tva me and that robot would turn you into the hulk yeah we would have been throwing hands right there remember when we did the batman 89 commentary yes and the joker just fucking would shoot every tv that he saw that would be me immediately don Don't take my Cuts clothing. Cuts clothing is the future of apparel. I'm telling you right now.

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That's cutsclothing.com slash basement for 15% off the only shirt worth wearing. Now we can get back to Loki. He's sent into this line where they make the joke, like, what is this, a deli? Because they say take a ticket. Taking the ticket, I said this to Trent, was my favorite thing in the world as a kid, at the deli. I would always go to ShopRite with my mom, and I'd be like, don't take, don't, I'm taking the ticket. Like, you better not grab that ticket. She'd be like, I'm not taking a fucking ticket.

You grab the ticket. Go up to it, fucking grab the ticket, and then I would always like grab another one, fold them into little paper airplanes because, you know, they have the little wings on them. Oh, my God. That was my favorite thing. Let me tell you, that still plays because the kids with their tickets, because then they have like the rest of the trip. They're playing with it until they get, you know, check out or whatever.

If fucking COVID took away the tickets from us, because, you know, at this point, I think anything where you're touching stuff is going to start going away. I mean, we just hug. So hugs are. Everyone thought hugs were dead. Hugs are not dead, my friend. We're bringing them back. Portal style.

They came in through. Dr. Strange brought them back. I hope they do not take the tickets away because it makes the food taste better when you get the ticket. You went through the whole process. I waited for this. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I waited. It was a journey.

But he doesn't get a fun sandwich at the end of it, unfortunately. Yeah, exactly. Did you think of any other piece of content when he took the ticket? When he took the ticket, did I think of any other piece of content? It's a movie. Oh, like, no. Beetlejuice. I always think Beetlejuice when they do tickets on the big screen.

I thought you were going to say, like, Hank giving out tickets at the— When you said content, I thought Barstool. Ah, you think Barstool. I thought you meant, like, Hank ripping tickets at the museum before Dave hired him. Weirdly, that's the first thing that came to mind. Now, I'm going to skip ahead a bit when we talk about this scene because there was one other person in the room with him. Did you notice that? Yeah, yeah.

And he got vaporized. He was a hard-o. He was a dick. He was a bit of a hard-o. But he had the exact same haircut as Loki. And I know by the end of the episode we're getting into alternate timelines and maybe alternate Lokis. There is, in the back of my mind, like, was that like hard-o New York Loki? Was that like, I don't know.

But if you look back, I'll put the image on screen right now. He just had the same haircut. And after, you know, when I watched it back the second time, I sort of watched everything with a more keen eye, knowing, okay, them bringing in Loki isn't just them bringing in another fugitive. They all know who Loki is. They all know what he's doing right now in other timelines. So you got to pay attention to that.

By the way, Rob, Bobby Fox, you have a little bit of a Loki haircut too. So I know I actually thought during this episode, I was like, when he has the, uh, the little choker on and he's got the jumpsuit on, I was like, that'd be such an easy Halloween costume. I could be Loki for Halloween like that. So while Loki is online at this dmv style place though a miss minutes video comes on television this is wandavision-esque right in terms of very much the old school cartoons i immediately thought back to like okay this is

kind of like the wandavision intros they nailed the miss minute because i i just kept calling her clocky all right i thought it was clocky or i thought it was like a bitcoin like a cryptocurrency kind of thing miss minute they kind of fucking nailed that and i feel like we're gonna have a lot of misses miss marbles coming in but uh miss minute thumbs up by the way i i this just happened i found out yesterday i was like i could talk about this in the pot with rob sienna first grader is learning how to tell time like through a clock i was like i didn't realize i thought that was like no where the hands are going and yeah or at least second grade first grade and this is first grade in a pandemic i feel like this would have been months earlier if it was like in person i didn't realize. I thought that was like third grade. Knowing where the hands are going and stuff. Yeah, or at least second grade. First grade, and this is first grade in a pandemic. I feel like this would have been months earlier if it was like in person.

I didn't realize you could tell. Like, I don't remember when I learned telling time. I didn't think it was first grade, though. I have no idea when I learned telling time. If it wasn't first grade, shout out to Miss Connelly. She was a good teacher. But I don't think it was in first grade. It was probably like second or third grade.

Shout out to Sienna. I mean, we're a brilliant child. She's maybe like a little Tony Starkey guy on your hands, like a prodigy. I can't pay for college. I forget what I want to. I can't pay for college unless she gets a scholarship. So I need a little Tony Stark. In the Miss Minutes video, they tell us the story of the timeline and sort of the TVA, why the TVA exists. They said back in the day, thousands of years ago, there were multiple timelines. They were all split up into different things, and then three timekeepers emerged. They came together, and they reorganized the multiverse into the sacred timeline.

They showed all of the little timelines went into one thread together. They still protect and preserve the flow of time, the timekeepers, now through the TVA, but we haven't seen the timekeepers. We only saw them through the cartoon, which everyone is pointing out. One of the Time Keepers looks a lot like Kang the Conqueror. A lot like Kang the Conqueror. Like, a lot. It's Kang the Conqueror. It's Kang the Conqueror.

It's Kang the Conqueror. I remember Portnoy did it during the 2016 election. We're calling the states. We're calling one of the Time Keepers. We're calling it quick. It's Kang. That's one of them. He's on the sus list.

Can we get, like, a graphic? Like, it's like a mystery, and it's like a mystery and then it just says kang yeah it's like we reveal it yeah i'll put kang on there yeah and they say if variant escapes one of their timelines this could lead to madness and a multiversal war which i was like fucking michael waldron but guess what michael waldron writer and creator of Loki, isn't only the writer and creator of Loki. He's the writer of Doctor Strange 2, the multiverse of madness. So it's like, oh, brilliant. Maybe teasing that. Also, maybe teasing Secret Wars. People said, you know, that is a big multiversal war. So if you want to skip ahead, it could be a future tease as well.

Secret Wars is some shit, too, which I thought it was the Secret Invasion storyline. Secret Wars is a whole other thing ken jack that could be like the next you know uh endgame infinity war in 10 years almost yeah i feel like this is when that hardo loki if we're gonna even refer to him as that hardo new york loki he seemed like that guy from uh snl what's his name you know who i'm talking about the bigger guy bigger bigger white dude from from SNL. Bobby Moynihan? Bobby Moynihan. I was a Moynihan fan.

This is a Moynihan fan right here. I was sort of thinking of Moynihan during this scene. He gets incinerated and the Loki title screen hits, which is, you know, it kind of looks like a ransom note. It's like all different letters going all over there. We now cut to France in 1549. There's been a massacre in a church, and the murderer has been taking the reset charges. That's what they called him, I assume. That's what they left in the beginning

in Mongolia. We get to see Owen Wilson immediately, and it's going to be hard not to call him Owen Wilson. He's Agent Morbius, I believe. Morbius? Mobius? Mobius. It's going to be very hard not to call him Owen Wilson, but... It's going to be hard not to call him Morpheus for me, because it's like, you're getting the names like close together and I'm going to try not

to say Owen Wilson. It's fucking Owen Wilson. Don't give us, they did change his hair enough though, where you're like, Whoa, look at all of them with like a short haircut. You don't see him like that very often. If they could have fixed the nose, that would have like, I'd be like, that's not Owen Wilson. Yeah. It's just such a, that's his calling card.

Right. As soon as I see this though, I'm like, wait a minute. We got a fucking murderer on the loose going and committing crimes back in time in Victorian churches. Fucking metal. This show is going to be awesome. He sees a little child. She comes out of nowhere. He walks up to her.

He shows her this stick figure thing. He draws a stick figure on a smartphone, and then it projects up, and it starts walking around. And he's like, who did this? She points to the devil mephisto confirmed god damn who knows you know michael waldron is like as soon as mephisto rumors started he's like motherfucker i wrote a whole devil scene into the first episode they're gonna think it's mephisto right away when they zoomed in i got so like triggered i was like fuck this i'm not falling for this stuff again i was like at this we're like, they're going to put Mephisto right in front of us. We're going to be like, nah, it's a Mandarin situation. There's no way that's the real Mephisto.

But he notices she's got a little blue on her teeth, and he says, what's the blue from? And she shows him candy. He's like, oh, devil-bearing gifts. So whoever this murderer is, he's coming. He's giving the children gifts, almost a la our guy Zemo. Zemo, yes. He's giving the children gifts almost a la our guy Zemo.

Zemo, yes. Yes. Right. He's giving the children something for a little info or intel. We may have to try this gum out if it's a real gum. Yeah. Blueberry. Yeah, it was.

I tried to read the label on the second thing to be like, is that something? But I couldn't read it. Too much 3G maybe. If it was a real devil gum, it should have been the gum like in Pee-wee's Big Adventure that makes it look like you're bleeding out of your mouth. Yeah, that freaked me out as a kid. It freaked me out, too. We talked about this on The Karate Kid and how he fucking ruined Pee-wee's Big Adventure because I was a big Pee-wee's Playhouse guy. And he just made it weird.

Large Marge, to this day, I've never been more scared of a scene in my life than Large Marge. And then, obviously, the bleeding gum thing always freaked me out, too. The bleeding gum thing always freaked me out to bleeding gum thing. That's like when Papa Shango, uh, curse the ultimate warrior, bleeding black and throwing up black. That was like the worst day of my life. I still like,

cause I watched that live, you know, I was a little kid. And not that if you didn't watch a lot of it makes a difference, but I saw that live and I freaked the fuck out. I've never, I've never been more scared of it. I think another creature or human in this world than Papa Shango at it.

Cause he showed up on Saturday mornings when it was usually basically human cartoon characters like Hulk Hogan. And you want to talk about an actor showing range. Papa Shango to the Godfather. That's amazing. It's one of the greatest fun facts. Give him a retroactive Oscar, you know? I know he's in the wrestling world, but it's the entertainment business, and that's impressive. That is impressive.

That is impressive. So at the end of this scene, Owen Wilson is handed the Loki case. They said, sir, I think you're going to want to see this. And they slapped the Loki file in front of him. Loki is now brought into court and he's charged with sequence violation 7-20-89. As soon as they said that, I was like, that's got to be someone's birthday or a date that something happened. It's actually the day after my brother's birthday. He's born on July 19th.

Oh, nice. So maybe that would be his third birthday, I think, the day after his third birthday. Shout out to Mike Fox, my mom's basement guest and also my brother's birthday. He's born on July 19th. Oh, nice. So maybe, you know, that would be his third birthday, I think, the day after his third birthday. Shout out to Mike Fox, my mom's basement guest, and also my brother. That's the more important part. He says,

you must be after the Avengers, not me, because they were the ones that messed this whole thing up. Like, I got away because they traveled back in time. He said, you can never mistake the cologne of two Tony Starks.

The fact Loki picked that up, I love so much. The fact that he knew there was two Avengers there, back in time he said you can never mistake the uh cologne of two tony starks the fact loki picked that up i love so much the fact that he knew there was two avengers there and i've said i think i've said this in the past on this podcast but if you ever talk to portnoy his brain is always moving i remember at the old office i was talking once i was like talking about a shirt or something and in the corner of his eye he's like i think it was the frankie or someone else he's like why did you shake your head like that and like no one else is looking across the if dave's not paying attention he would do that on radio all the time when you could still see frankie through the glass and hq too he would always be like frankie what are you laughing at in there and that would sometimes

cause for issues because frank would be like oh i just saw like you know someone in the office roasted so and so and then they'd get brought in or something yeah it's crazy and like the fact loki has that same kind of brain and that's how you know, like the God of mischief. He's always fucking thinking. Always thinking. Unfortunately, he was thinking to get out of this courtroom with his magic and it doesn't work in the TVA.

He realized that quickly. He's like, I'm going to show you this. And, you know, nothing happened. They were like, oh, he's he's trying to use his powers, man. And I liked the courtroom had the timekeeper's heads above the judge. That was some Marvel shit. And then the Kang one in the middle and the woman, they're like linked, right? Yes.

I think that woman plays like a specific character in the comics. I apologize for not doing the prior research on that. But, yeah, they are linked in some way. Yeah. So that's, I feel like. Kang confirmed. We're calling it. Kang confirmed. It's already been. It's put on the big board. research on that but yeah they are linked in some way yeah so that's i feel like confirmed we're calling it can't confirm it's already been it's been it's put on the big board we've already slapped it on it's a blue what is king purple it's a purple state yeah kang the the uh time

whatever the fuck it is purple kang on the map by the way just because you had mentioned the thing with uh two tony starks the feeling feeling of Loki getting out of pocket during Endgame. I like I still remember I was like, oh, fuck, this is a complete X factor. And obviously it was to set up the show, not to like completely fuck up the happenings of Endgame. I mean, they had to go back in time to then get the space stone. But just the fact that you were just that feeling of dread. We're like now Loki's in the mix. Oh, shit.

And the fact that this show is centered around that dude who can give you that feeling is so awesome it's it's amazing and they tell them the avengers were supposed to break the timeline like i said i love that he blames the good guys too that's exactly he's like he's like yeah they were the ones that did it and they were like no no that was supposed to happen which if you're loki from his perspective must be the most frustrating thing in the entire world to hear. Like, what do you mean they were supposed to? Like, who decides that? And they even say it later on.

He says to Agent Mobius, he's like, who are they to decide what's right and wrong? And he's like, well, it's not right and wrong. That's kind of – and it sounded like – or I at least got the implication that he was going to be like, that's sort of political. Like, when you put it like that, it's what's supposed to happen and what's not supposed to happen. Now this brings up the like, okay, were the Avengers supposed to go back in time, but Loki wasn't supposed to get away? Does that mean they weren't supposed to go to get the extra Pym Particles as well

back in 1970? Were the TVA maybe after them there too? Yeah, I guess. See, this is where we talk about the 3G show. You hit 3G and then start thinking about that, and your mind expands. You know the galaxy brain? Your mind becomes the galaxy brain. Every episode, I'm going to do the, wait, Frank the Tank from old school because that's just how I'm going to feel.

But, yeah, that kind of just broke my brain there, Bob. You kind of just broke my brain there bob you kind of just you kind of just broke my brain there like what is and if you're loki i understand his confusion i understand his frustration like what the fuck is supposed to happen what's not supposed to you know what i compare it to it's like when you're a kid and you and your brother or sister are in a fight and you get in trouble for doing the same thing they did like no no but it's different because you're younger or you're this or you're that i told you to yeah exactly and then because i told you to in loki exactly. I mean because I told you to. And Loki's exact – his brother is on the Avengers and he's always fighting it.

He's like, why does Thor and all his friends get to do it but I can't do this? Literally his brother, like you said. It's fucking crazy. So I – goddammit. Another fucking season and I'm with the villain. Yeah, it's hard not to be with the villain in this one. Especially after like we saw his arc. We know what he's capable of.

We know that, listen, when it comes time to save his brother or go after the T-Man, he's going to do it. Yeah. So when we know that, it's like we know what he's capable of. We know his potential and we want to get him back to that point. You don't get to the top of the mischief, you know, org chart. Like you could be maybe like the CEO of mischief or the manager of mischief top of the mischief uh you know org chart like you could be maybe like the ceo of mischief or the manager of mischief got a mischief you have to make people believe in you to really

then fuck them over so here here we are falling in love with loki to think remember when he made that big appearance at comic-con in full uh costume and it was like this big thing that was gonna be the last appearance of loki that's what it's for in the dark world they were like it's gonna be the last time you see loki and everyone's going to be the last time you see Loki. And everyone's like, cool. Like the third time we see him. Now he's got his whole TV show. He's in all the movies.

I feel like he might be by the end of this show, like the leader of the TVA. Even the big purple man couldn't keep him down. No resurrections this time? Not so fast, my friend. Our friend Michael Waldron is like, nah, fuck you, Thanos. We're fucking resurrecting that motherfucker. He's sentenced to be reset, which we kind of get the implication is that would put him back in 2012 and he would be put back into the timeline. So he would experience the events that we've seen him do in the MCU.

That's how I took it at least. And he says, you have no idea what I'm capable of. And then Owen Wilson stands up and he says, I do actually. I think I have an idea what he's capable of. I don't do a very good Owen Wilson. That sounds like Dr. Evil, yeah. Wow. The TVA Owen Wilson kind of shows him around.

He walks him around. He gets him out of being reset. Looks like a city from the Jetsons. Flying cars everywhere. It's like a city of the future. We have no idea where this is, if it's a planet, if it's underground. I mean, later in the episode, maybe my favorite comedic beat in the episode is when Loki escapes and he threatens Casey and he says, I'll gut you like a fish. Casey's like, what's a fish?

I've lived my whole life behind a desk. So it's like how does that work? Like they say time moves differently there. So how long is Casey's life? I have no idea. This is all the three G questions, the galaxy, brain, expanding, which we may get answered by the end of it. We only have one episode. We've only seen one episode.

But Owen Wilson introduces himself here as Agent Mobius. He says he just wants to know a little bit more about Loki. They have a great report from the start. They're in the elevator joking around where he says, I just want to talk to you. Loki says, well, I don't like to talk. He says, well, you do like to lie because you just did it there. You do love to talk. I know everything about you.

Like we've watched your entire life. We're the TVA. And the whole time Loki does not believe in what Agent Mobius is telling him he believes that the entire TVA is an illusion to inspire fear and it's a power play and they just want to get something out of Loki now watching this on the second like when you watch it the first time the entire interrogation scene Owen Wilson comes off a little patronizing like he's like what do you want really like you want to be the leader of the world on the second watch when you realize who they're going after at the end and that they're on the hunt for a loki i didn't do the rewatch it really

made it be like oh he's interrogating his current suspect he's getting the opportunity to sit down and be like why are you doing what you're doing like we're we're following you right now and loki has no idea so he starts starts showing Loki his past life. He starts showing him his worst moments, his lowlights, things that we've seen from the Avengers, him ripping that eyeball out and smiling. That was fucked. I forgot about the eyeball thing.

The eyeball thing was fucked. I forgot about that too. And Owen Wilson says, he's like, that looks like someone that enjoys what they're doing right there, doesn't it? He shows them stabbing people. He shows them inspiring fear upon humans. And he's like, this is god of mischief? Doesn't seem very mischievous to me, right?

It's god of dickheadness. God of dickheadness. That's what you could call Loki. Read it in a way. Put that on a shirt. And Loki's clearly uncomfortable. Like, seeing all of this is making him physically, he's like, no, no, I had to do that.

Like, you know, whatever. Loki tells him, I had to do that. Like whatever. Loki tells him I want to be the king of Asgard, the king of Misgard, the king of space, the king of whatever. Oh, king of space. That would make you pretty awesome, Loki, wouldn't it? He's like, don't mock me. And then he shows him his future. He shows him this is what would have happened if you didn't escape. We could see from the dark world him basically being responsible for the death of his mother.

Not basically. He is responsible for the death of his mother. He led the dark elves into the castle, and he put them into the room, kind of did the Rachel Dawes Harvey Dent thing, sent them to the wrong room. Yep. But he killed his mother. And he actually tells them, like, you exist to allow others to achieve the best versions of themselves we see the avengers circling up in the first movie and loki sort of like realizes that it sets in and

then we go on a side tangent in the middle of this like heavy moment he's like let's talk about some of your escapes though because i have a favorite and we get to see loki is db cooper you know like that the implication is that that was loki the entire time he lost a bet to thor he said and he hijacked this plane didn't really have like a purpose necessarily or place in this other than to be fun but goddamn was it fun i kind of like too that thor was in on it too because that's back when he was not mature thor he's this you know takes over asgard this is kind of like the thor's biggest struggle was becoming that mature Thor. Mature Thor.

Why does it have to rhyme? I really wish it doesn't rhyme. It just feels weird. But yeah, I liked that callback. One thing I didn't understand, why was Loki so amazed by that place? I feel like he's probably seen some crazy shit. I was thinking in Ragnarok he goes to space and all that.

I forget this is 2012 Loki, so he probably doesn't know. True. I mean, Asgard is pretty fucking gnarly. And his magic doesn't work, though. I think that's a big part of it. Oh, okay. And he said he tried to use the Tesseract multiple times in there, right?

So I think all of that not working is like, what the fuck is going on right now? And why am I being held captive? How often is it that Loki's held captive? Yeah, exactly. In 2012? Not often 2012, the year of our lord Also

This is going to be the thing that's going to hurt me the most about Loki Finding out his I didn't know his real name Oh yeah, they kept calling him Loki Lofi-son They kept calling him that Like Mr. Loferson Yeah

And it always is tough Loki sounds like a god Mr. Loferson sounds like my English's just like, I don't know. And it always is tough. Loki sounds like a god. Mr. Loferson sounds like my English teacher. Yeah, and it's the double letters, so then it sounds like you're just some random dude that's like – you're one of those typical jobs. You're like the used car salesman. Ned Ryerson, basically, the insurance salesman from – that's what I think of when I hear Loki Loferson.

Yeah. That was a tough look for him. They said it with like – it was like Lovison or something there's some there was something behind it but it was just like nah call him Loki don't call him Loki Loki's badass Loki on the screen that's what the whole show is called they named the whole show after it you know come yeah and again those high that highlight reel or low but you wrote everyone to call him he's not the god of mischief he's the god of like again dickheadness like torture fear sick fuck he's a sick like give me some pranks that loki did along the way you know whoopie cushion or the snake

thing that thor talked about when he's like hide as a snake or whatever and attack him did you ever do the popcorn you ever have the peanuts thing where you pop it open and the fake snakes would like jump out oh no when you when you said pop right there i thought you were gonna be like did you ever do the popcorn thing with the dick and i I was going to be like, no! No! Never. No, no, no. Nope. I've never done that.

I'm happy to say I don't think I know anyone who's done it either because that, I always thought, was a very aggressive move. I would be stunned if someone did that in real life. Also, and just that, like, you put the floppy dick in there? Do you have to be hard for that? Yeah, that's the thing. I don't know. I guarantee Loki's probably done it because he's a sick fuck like that.

True. He goes too far. One of the Loki timelines has done it. That Bobby't know. I guarantee Loki's probably done it because he's a sick fuck like that. True. He goes too far. One of the Loki timelines has done it. That Bobby Moynihan Loki did it probably. That Bobby Moynihan. Bobby Moynihan. Can I say Bobby Moynihan did it? No, that's like slander or libel or something like that.

Okay. But that Bobby Moynihan looking fuck did it. Yes, there we go. So that agent that apprehended Loki from before comes back in to check on Mobius and Loki and be like, what are you doing, man? Let's send this guy back. And they're like, listen, I'm trying to fix Thor 2 right now because they're going to fix Thor 2.

I thought about that. I actually, when they showed the heaviness of his mother dying, I was like, that's a fucking Filoni moment right there. That's like, we're going to take one of the highlights from that and remind you of it so that's what sticks in your memory in the future is like oh yeah thor 2 the one where uh you know loki sent the dark elves to kill his mother it's like i would have never you know thought of thor 2 that way you're gonna not think of the two hours of shit you're gonna think of the

two seconds of like heaviness that you got from a show like a decade later and that it gave loki his character development in this episode all the character development he needed at least owen wilson does an unbelievable move here and the move of only someone that like isn't familiar with loki would do he leaves him alone in that room and apparently he left him with one of the remote controls which like did you just fucking leave the keys to the handcuffs in there with him buddy if someone said i think he like he kind of like rubbed up against him and like pickocketed him. Oh, did he? That would make more sense because I thought our guy, Agent Mobius, was just like a slacker. And then I'm like, the entire time I'm thinking, I didn't realize that until I watched a post.

I think Emergency Awesome I watched, and he, I think, made that point. But again, I'm not sure if that's definitely the case. And then I'm like, because the entire time during the episode, I'm like, oh, there's clearly like a big game he's playing. You know, Mobius. Well, the other reason why I think Loki was so fascinated with that place is because of the remote. Remember, he tries to attack Mobius as soon as they get into that room. And he just like resets. And he's like, come on, buddy.

Time works differently here. I'm Owen Wilson. Keep doing the Owen Wilson, Bob. We're going to get better. It's going to be a six episode arc. By the end of the series, I'll sound sort of like Owen Wilson and less like Dr. Evil. I was going to every I wrote down to like that during that interrogation. I did write the wow, because it was and I can't do it either because it was like a holy shit.

Owen Wilson's just in the MCU now and he's crushing it. And he definitely is Owen Wilson, not Mobius. But it was like a fuck this. This is it was just good acting. It was just a good vibe. You know what I mean? Almost like it reminded me of in like a similar caliber. Julia Louis-Dreyfus in Falcon and Winter Soldier.

Yes. Wow. That's like a huge actor that we have in the MCU now. And it's cool to see them just interact with the MCU, interact with Loki, Tom Hiddleston. And we're living in a very unique time where you're getting it's not quite movies. It's not quite TV. It's not HBO. It's the it's Disney Plus. And it's it's kind of this movie quality stuff that is being broken up onto your TV. And it looks probably great because everyone 4K TVs are like two hundred dollars now. So everyone's looking at like a nice screen.

And it's like, fuck, this is just really just good entertainment. It's great. It's a great time to be a Marvel Star Wars fan nerd. I mean, we got Bad Batch on Friday still. Like, tomorrow. The Basic Boys are having themselves one. They're having a great one. Loki escapes, though, and did you notice, this was brought up by some Easter egg accounts.

You might have seen it in a video. Someone else comes through a portal at the exact same moment he escapes, and she looks suspiciously like Peggy Carter. Captain America's on the sus list. It has to be said. It had to be said. For the in-person episode, we hugged at the beginning of this.

Tell you what, we won't be hugging at the end of this. Captain America's on the sus list. You think she's, like, trying to get away from Captain America? He might have just thrown her in the fucking mix. Like, it was her, and then they fucking, like, well, Captain America wouldn't tell a lie even though he didn't tell Tony Stark his parents were killed by his friend. There was a rumor that Chris Evans was going to return to the MCU as Captain America. Imagine it's like a Chris Evans, Peggy Carter, like, on the run from the TVA show.

Loki America? Maybe he's fucking Loki in this time. Oh, shit. There's another one? That's the galaxy brain. You saw that expand in my mind right there. Loki America. We've seen on the YouTube.

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And Casey says, what's a fish? I don't know what a fish is. Casey's delightful. Delightful. I hope you don't put him on the sus. We'll get to that later. His teeth are kind of funky, which scared me. I don't know if you noticed that.

I don't know why I noticed it. But because Casey, again, everyone there, they're like made by the time travelers or whatever. And then I'm thinking like, were they just, it's kind of like in Watchmen when these people are just made by, and I'm like, there's probably something.

They're not like regular beings that were organically made and babies and all that stuff. So then I think I saw his teeth and I was like, Hmm, it's like in Jack Nicholson in the park. He felt, she felt funny. His teeth are kind of weird and he doesn't know what a fish is.

And he has infinity stones in his fucking drawer. Yeah. He's kind of throwing me off right now. Well, that is what I think makes Loki realize that this place is not an illusion. This place is everything it's cracked up to be because Casey opens that drawer when he says, give me the Tesseract, and it is full of infinity stones.

I mean full of it. There's two, like, big soul stones. There's tons of time stones, which I thought was clever that there's the most time stones because that's probably what people were committing crimes with, time crimes with.'s you know reality stones there's every stone in this desk and loki has this no mind stone oh there was no mind stone because it's in vision did you see the fucking size of that goddamn uh soul stone huge it's a rock it's like the size of a hand like you could fit that thing in your softball yeah i want to know i need to know the story about that soul

so i don't care about all the other stones that were in that drawer. That soul stone. How did it get there? Someone made the whole sacrifice only for it to get confiscated. That's. Oh, yikes. Yeah. You wake up in that goddamn water. All right.

No, I guess it could have been in another place at some point. But no matter what you're doing, a soul for a soul is the rules. Soul for a soul. Everyone knows the rules. Right. Yeah. One soul. Everyone knows the rules.

And Loki has this moment where he says, is this the greatest power in the universe? He's like – and Casey tells him like, oh, yeah. There's like some guys use them as paperweights. Now, we got a lot of questions about this and like it was actually like a point of contention for some people. I want to get to that right away before we even get to questions because we're talking about it. My friend James McKenna wrote in and he said, here's my main question after leaving episode one. Are you all concerned about all of the past decade of Marvel content being reduced to paperweights? I get that we're moving forward, but it felt like an odd way to establish that.

And I'm not concerned with that. I didn't take issue with that. I actually thought it was very similar to the moment in Infinity War. In the very beginning, Thanos takes the Tesseract and he crushes it with his bare hand. Yeah. And you're just like, oh, my God. the whole fucking avengers lead up was to that thing and he just like broke it in his hand into a little stone i took it as that like listen that was the past and now that doesn't apply here like we're moving on to a totally new realm where like the infinity stones

just can't solve everything anymore that's a great call because again that tesseract just like looking at it would like fucking paralyze people for like days and then thanos that's how i was like oh this guy is fucking he means business here and he could fuck the paper crumbled up yeah exactly an origami square he was like and you know what listen there's i don't know if there's anyone that loves the infinity stones more than me that's why me and the team man have grown so fond of each other over the years because the way he wielded them. But in the words of the big man in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, it's over. You know, like it's time to move on.

I love this. You know what? I'm sure the Stones will come back in some sort of way, whether or not, you know, it's one of them or they even just again. I just see that fucking wallet. They do present problems to like storytelling problems. Yes. They like they can solve everything. It's almost the Superman issue of like well if you have the stones like everything's

going to just work out in your favor we'll bring this up on Monday too I think that's a good question to ask on Monday be like did you write that because you want to just say hey listen did you want to like move on is it a story writing thing I imagine probably a little bit of both and this is someone that loves the stones like we have to move on from the stones at some point and again they will come back but

they made the infinity saga the infinity saga yeah and now this next saga has got to be on from the stones at some point and again they will come back but they made the infinity saga the infinity saga and now this next saga has got to be something different the time saga it's going to be the multiverse saga yeah exactly which by the way when I heard multiversal saga or multiversal war I saw the

secret war stuff the the time I didn't know if the eternals were a part of that because I know the Eternals – I think they are, yeah. And I said, oh boy, this is going to get weird. This is going to be a weird-ass series. Things are getting real weird, yeah. We're going to go on Reddit and completely ruin this show for us, and it's going to be a goddamn trip.

So as soon as he realizes this is the greatest power in the universe, I can't believe I am where I am, the TVA spot him. They try to continue to chase him, but he warps back to that room. And now he has a different look at the footage that he was being shown of his future. And he watches his mother's death again. Amazingly acted scene by Tom Hiddleston. He's crying, right? Oh, and I wanted to shout out

Casey actually had a cameo in The Mandalorian, season one. The episode where Mando kind of gets it on with his lady and they have to teach that whole village how to fight. He was one of the villagers. Really? He had a side by side. Yeah.

So he must be just one of those guys in the Disney family that was probably easy to work with on the Mando Mandalorian show. And they gave him a call back like, hey, do you want to have like lines this time? But I rushed it. What I would give to get into like the phone book of the casting director of anyone who works for Disney and you just like, you know, you're getting those checks every few months or whatever. Yeah. Fuck.

I mean, listen, I love my job here, too. Damn. You're in some cool shit. Probably pays pretty well. And yeah. And that's cool stuff to like when that guy is 80 years old, he's going to look back and show his grandkids like, check out this episode of fucking Loki where I'm in it and Loki's threatening me.

That's the coolest shit in the entire world. Yep. So he goes he watches his mother's death he's weeping in that room he's crying it's really hitting him hard and then he keeps going forward he keeps fast forwarding he sees his father's death and he sees that him and Loki him and Thor kind of sitting side by side the sun line was big you know my sons my sons yes absolutely and then sees him and Thor teaming up side by side. And some moments from Ragnarok where Thor is saying, you know, those sentimental lines. If I thought we would fight side by side forever, brother. And then goes back to them, maybe you do have some good in you.

Maybe you're not all bad. And Loki's like, maybe I'm not. And Loki realizes his potential in that moment, I think. And that was, I think, their way of developing him into the loki we know in 10 minutes do you know what i mean using the kind of catching him up to the loki we were left off with i'm not saying he'll be exactly that i think he still will be more mischievous and and not as good he'll be some shades of gray within him he might want to take over the tva while he's working with them or something but it was it was a heavy scene and it was one that was necessary for him to realize everything that happened in the sacred timeline yeah and they're gonna I feel like at some point they might have

to do something like this with Gamora if she comes back for guardians and all that kind of stuff and again it's it's like it is one of the things that sucks because I love the growth of her character I love the growth of Loki's character even though in the end you still couldn't trust like i feel like if loki kills thanos there he ends up just taking the gall and snapping everything he's just a dickhead he's a fucking he's the god of dickheadness um they're gonna have to do the same with uh with her as well but it does suck that we lost that loki just like we lost that gamora um but in the end like that's just the way comics work yeah and it was a great death it was important and seeing your own death must be a fucking trip and you know i was geeking out when big team the team man came on the screen i know we were asking for that in in uh wandavision i think every

every episode we were like the commercials got to be the team man right the commercials and immediately they were like we're giving you the team manman in your face. Boom. Cracking necks. I know. They said the boom cracks on the closed captioning, and Loki's face changed. Like, oh, my God. I can't believe that motherfucker just fucking killed me. Because in his mind, I don't know if he ever met Thanos before he got hired to do the 2012 invasion, but that was, like, the same day that he did that for Thanos, essentially. I mean, in his mind, he was going to take over himself, and he was going to be king.

But, like, he was with Thanos, essentially. Yeah. I mean, in his mind, he was going to take over himself and he was going to be king. But, like, he was with Thanos' army. So to see someone you teamed up with fucking choking you like that in a matter of hours, crazy. And then you just see, basically, the credits rolling your life as the tape goes out. So you're like, oh, it's over, over.

No resurrections this time. Yeah. Oh, Thanos is so fucking... Come on, that was a great line. No resurrections this time. And, well, he was wrong about it, so it's all takes exposed now. Hey, no resurrections. It's fucking... By the letter of the law, that was a great line and well he was wrong about it so it's old takes exposed now hey no resurrections it's fucking by the letter of the law that was not right but and then also

seeing thor like the way he's grieving him too how he saw that i think he probably appreciated as well again we are not going to we will not 100 trust loki in this entire series we will make that promise to ourselves he's permanently he has a permanent spot on the sus list yes of course so that agent comes back. He slaps the collar on her and sends her through the fucking spin cycle of just like I thought she was going to throw up. He just kept like resetting her. She kept like running back and forth. I thought we were going to puke, too.

I thought it was lowering the bar style. Definitely. Especially as soon as she gets like transported out of it and like in front of Casey. I thought he's going to be like, are you OK? And she was just going to be do like the baby or like spit up, you know. And then Mobius comes back and Loki's kind of laughing and they're like what what is like why are you laughing he's like just fucking glorious purpose he's like I don't want to go back to my timeline like if that's my fate like I don't want to go back there and that's a Avengers thing right glorious glorious purpose I think yeah it was an avengers thing he's kind of laughing at himself

after all of that and he tells mobius in a great great loki moment that he doesn't enjoy hurting people and he calls back to the line that he thought the tva was earlier and he says it's all an illusion to conspire fear and mobius realizes when he was talking about the tva before he was just projecting he says oh, oh, you do know yourself. And he said, yeah. And he says, well, I think I can offer you a job. He said, look, he said, like, are you going to send me somewhere to die?

He's like, no, I could, like, offer you something much better than that. And he tells him, the fugitive we're hunting is you. Wow. Wow. I can't do it. I hate that I can't do it.

Blew my mind. Truly, I didn't see this coming at all. In front of Trent, I was like, what? And immediately, I was like, oh, that's why she said the devil. The fucking horns on Loki's helmet. The horns, yep. I thought the same thing. Come on. Like, oh, that's such a great line.

And then we cut to, and this was brilliantly shot. It was shot like a fucking horror movie. It's like a field in the middle of the night. TVA officers arrive. They're like, what is this? Some rich guy got himself like a time machine? it's like a field in the middle of the night tva officers arrive they're like what is this some rich guy got himself like a time machine we don't see anyone put the fucking reset charge on the ground and then we see a hooded figure drop a lantern and the entire field explodes these officers burn alive they're screaming it's like a horror movie fucked loki walks up to it or you know a version of loki walks up to it he grabs the reset charge and that's

the end of the episode I don't know why he's taking these reset charges I don't really understand the reset charge to be completely honest I assume it's like a men in black thing because in the beginning I was like oh and Wilson's showing this fucking girl a smartphone she's gonna go back to her village and they're gonna burn her at the stake for being a witch when she tells them what she just saw they're gonna throw it next to Agatha and just light exactly like she's gonna be like i saw a fucking smartphone and a stick figure walking around they're gonna be like okay crazy lady you got blue teeth too so that must be like a disease you have um immediately i thought back to rumors though months ago when they didn't show us loki when they didn't show us the hooded figure thought back to rumors months

ago that there would be multiple versions of Loki in this show. And I remember them saying there could be a female Loki. There could be like an older Loki, a younger Loki. I would have to assume. Bobby Moynihan Loki. Bobby Moynihan Loki. I have to assume, and I hope you're in agreement with me here, that the Loki that we saw at the end of this episode is not going to be played by Tom Hiddleston. Because I think they would have showed us his face if it was yes and the yeah the way that they've kind of had that shadowy and has the um the hood on and

everything it's keeping it and I don't I don't think it's a spoiler it's it's kind of just a theory there's a lot of people think it's going to be Lady Loki Lady Loki or I've seen even I think Richard E. Grant has been cast in this right and people are like Richard E. Grant has been cast in this, right? And people are like, Richard E. Grant is a fucking villain. He gets cast to play villains. He's got sort of a Loki-type look. Could it be him as an older Loki? Or maybe Loki cast him so you think it's him. He could have.

Whoa. Yeah, imagine he's not even in the show, and they're just like, oh, that was one, you know, mischief, as I said at the beginning. I'm telling you, I feel like we're on 3C right now. We're not, but I think our brains are cooking. You know what? I probably always have a little 3C through my veins. It's probably in there somewhere.

It's like the Hulk. I'm always angry. Yeah, exactly. The Delta 8 is somewhere in Bob's bloodstream at any given moment. But man, what a cliffhanger. What an episode. This episode, I would say, hit everywhere it needed to hit for me. And I couldn't be more in for Loki.

I couldn't. And I will admit, this is big of me. I had a screener for episodes one and two, but I did not watch episode two because my man Clem did not have a screener, and I don't want to watch episode two and know where we're going, but somebody told me who saw episode two

that there's a cliffhanger at the end of that one that's even worse than this one in terms of you're going to want episode three that much more. So I'm looking forward to episode two. I can't wait't wait for i'm looking forward to our interview with michael waldron even more it's gonna be awesome it's gonna be and that is a very brother i feel like thor t or loki only because you look like loki i don't look like thor maybe a good holiday costume for both of us oh i think we just okay if comic-con is back yep comic-con or we can and thor would

be awesome we got to get to that Avengers campus in California too. So if we do that, I'll go as fat Thor. I'll just bite the bull. I'm not going to be regular Thor. I'll be fat Thor. You be Loki and we're going to go fucking do that. Didn't you say Brennan Clancy looked a little bit like the Winter Soldier? Yes, I did say that.

Maybe we get a group together and we get like, you know, a little MCU within Marvel. That would be really fun. I like that. Within Barstool, I mean. I like that a lot. Love the episode. The credits felt very WandaVision-y where there was a lot of things. I was laser focused on it.

Let's see. We got apocalyptic event report. That was one thing. Number nine is everywhere. So that's our new hexagon. The number nine was everywhere. Yep. We got, I don't know if this was actually, but I don't know if it was in the post credits,

but the Nexus, like they just mentioned Nexus. So obviously we know that. They mentioned that in the Miss Minutes video. Yes, that was the Miss Minute video. They mentioned Nexus and obviously WandaVision with the Nexus commercial, all that kind of stuff. So I'm sure the people on reddit and that's the other thing we're doing this on thursdays now right so yeah so the episodes will drop on wednesday and we're we're doing our recaps much sooner to the release date of the episode so we

might have like less you know to go on yeah in terms of theories and easter eggs that other people have spotted or we have spotted it's much fresher in our minds which is probably for the best because then we don't have time to really ruin the show from us By just sitting on Reddit and reading everyone's theories I had a shout out I got a tweet from Glenn here And he said, quick side note from my mom's basement I can't watch Loki until tonight

He woke, this was on Wednesday I believe He woke up and saw Magneto trending And was met with a mix of happiness He's in the MCU And sadness that it got spoiled Then he realized it's true it's trending Because the vaccine Magnet political video

Where the lady tried to put the key on her Yeah, it's like it's magnetized. Yeah Someone called her Magneto it trends because That's the thing like you could have avoided like Your timeline and you still go on Twitter Because you're addicted to it, right? But if you Go to the trending section or something like that, you might see hashtag Magneto and be like, or, you know, Luke trended, you know.

Luke Skywalker, yeah, when he came back. Did I just spoil? We're not going to say when Luke came in, but nonetheless. So, yeah, so that was a funny story. He was a return of the Jedi in 1983, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Crazy, crazy moment for everyone who saw it. Would you like to get into the sus list or questions first?

We'll do the sus list. The sus list is pretty basic.'s three people three people long number three we've already revealed captain america sus throws peggy carter he would he would do what he did to tony stark he does it to peggy he's just out for himself that's just we do have a current case me and the captain america uh a whole team for slander. For slander, yeah. There's been a lot of slander. Bobby Moynihan's legal team is currently gearing up as is yours. Number two on the list, Bob Fox. Bob Fox, you look like Loki.

You look like Loki. Like I could be a different Loki timeline? Yeah, exactly. Maybe I was the Loki sent to Midgard to send everyone off the trail? Well, right now, I'm going to put up the drawing that Triggs did of me and you. And I mean, he's not really taking any liberties with that hair. That hair has the Loki hair going on. So Bob Fox.

And even like it's a little shorter in the show because it was a little short in 2012 and I just got a haircut too. So it is a little shorter. Oh, how coincidental that you just happened to get a haircut. Oh, wow. It lines up. It lines up unfortunately well be better at me right if you're gonna be the god of me you gotta be better at hiding it

and the number one on the list it's fucking loki lo we're not taking loki off the number one spot on the sus list at any given moment i don't care okay with that there's like a thousand different loki's lady loki morning hand loki loki lo Loki, Robbie Fox, Loki. Loki is permanently. We're not losing track of like we lost WandaVision. We got a little crazy. We blamed a lot of very innocent hostages for being the fucking devil. I was worried about that. I actually like the sus list that I mean, I'm on it, but I'm on it with my guy, Captain America.

So I'm like, all right, I'm here with good company. And also, I was really worried that Casey was going to be on the sus list. I was like, you better not throw Casey on that motherfucking sus list. Now you have me thinking about Casey and those teeth. No, going to be on the sus list. I was like, you better not throw Casey on that motherfucking sus list. Now you have me thinking about Casey and those teeth. No, I'm in on the sus list. I like where you left it. All right. Our first question comes from KP Wilkie.

This is a longtime listener of the show. He actually fought in Rough and Rowdy before, had an awesome comeback. So shout out, KP Wilkie. Hope to see you back in the Rough and Rowdy ring in the future. He said, did Loki have the growth we saw in the movies from watching his correct timeline, or do we think he'll still try to take over from the timekeepers? Also, is it really Loki or is it Kang? What if it's Kang

all along? Kang is Loki? That would be true galaxy brain mind-blowing shit. I think he pretty much had the growth we saw in the movies. I would say he'll show hints of mischief, but I think he had the growth that he had in the movies. Yeah. I would say he'll show hints of mischief, but I think he had the growth that he had in the movies.

Poor Rene Russo had to die like multiple times on the screen to really hammer home. It's like, no, no, he feels bad. He killed his mom. And she said he was, she was his mom. I think like there's really no way to, I guess, get an answer on it. But I think the fact that they kept hammering it home and with Loki, you just can't trust The motherfucker right Because he's a

Susses a motherfucker But I think I think we have to just say He did it Because it's just so hard To like You can't just devote Hours to this

In a TV show That's six episodes long Which I kind of liked Is it six Is that confirmed I This was an all time Like freaky Google moment

I googled how long is And it completed Loki And it wasn't like I hadn't gotten on Loki On that computer The entire time Yeah So it was like like freaky Google moment. I Googled how long is, and it completed Loki. And it wasn't like I hadn't gotten on Loki on that computer the entire day. So it was like, oh, you're just connected to my TV that connects to this,

connects to that. And it said it's six episodes long. So I kind of like that. Would you want it longer? Selfishly, sort of. But I did think by the end of Falcon and Winter Soldier, we got like a pretty good arc in six episodes, especially their hour long as opposed to the half hour of WandaVision. Yeah, exactly.

And I forgot it was 50 minutes long, this one, as opposed to that. But I think, at least with Falcon and Winter Soldier, I think we kind of hit our point where we're like, all right, you guys can kind of wrap it up now. I think six and the way that this is going, I can't imagine. It'll leave us wanting more. Yeah. I think six and the way that this is going, I can't imagine. Leave us wanting more. Yeah. We're, we're going fucking. And based on the, the, you know, episode two, we're going to have that cliffhanger. This fucking truck.

We're at 75 right now on the highway. This thing ain't stopping anytime soon. It's only gonna get faster. So, um, let's get this, let's make this trip fast and fun and not like kind of be like, all right, wrap it up. You know? Yeah. We got another question from sarah

malikian she says as a nexus being do you think wanda is exempt from the rules of the tva this was an interesting question because she's gonna go into a different timeline in dr strange and the multiverse of madness to try to get her kids right that's okay at the end of wandavision she hears the screams of her kids. She's reading the Darkhold. Is she exempt? Are the TVA going to be after her? And Doctor Strange throughout the whole thing? Is Loki going to be in that?

Is Loki going to be involved in that? Does he open up the multiverse in some way at the end of this show, which is a lead-in to Doctor Strange like we got in WandaVision? I don't know. I think it's a good question. No, it is a good question because you're you're thinking all right is then is any is everybody powerless here it's like no at some point those time what are their names again the time keepers time keepers it's like she's obviously above loki in terms of power now i don't think she's equal to them but at some point i feel like she has to be somewhere within that range uh so i would say

i mean i by the time dr strange we're gonna be like holy shit wanda is a weapon right now we're gonna be terrified of her so i'll say like like dr strange too you feel like could dr strange change shit in here i would say yes because he's doing shit in all different weird realms and stuff like that so again do not underestimate underestimate wanda maximoff for the rest of our time loki is always sus and wanda is always like fucking terrifying it's basically a nuclear bomb just waiting to go it's the tony stark bomb and it's just beeping right now yeah by the way i re-watched endgame very recently like this past week for the 14 million 605th time right and man wandavision made that like a much better movie in terms of every Wanda moment

in that movie slaps so much harder now yeah it does right when she's like you took everything from me it's like oh we know how pissed she is we know just how like enraged she is and and her taking down Thanos her afterwards being like when Clint says to her I just wish there was a way that she could know we won and Wanda turns and she says, they both know. Like, she's talking about Vision there. Like, every Wanda moment in that movie, and Infinity War, when they have their moment together in Scotland, like, in the beginning, that was always sort of like a,

oh, you could go to the bathroom real quick while Wanda and Vision are talking. And now it's like, oh, man, they're about to lose each other. And for the record here, Romanjo, I had to shout out the guy who said, did Clem write this when she says you took everything from me and thanos said star killed your parents ultron shot your brother i just took

some fucking stone from your sex doll and i'm the one to blame it does raise a very good point vision doesn't even get into the tva because he's a fucking he's not a robot he's a robot exactly he's fucking ship of theseus my fucking i don. He's fucking – A friam. He's my fucking – I don't care. You know what that reminded me of, by the way, when Loki was like, what if I'm a robot? And I don't fucking know. It's like you ever leave a store in the mall and the metal detector goes off and you're like, what if I stole something? And I didn't even know.

Like did I – am I a shoplifter? What happened? Or it's like you think you're part of the Truman Show. Have you ever thought that where it's like – Of course. I mean the week after you watch that movie for the first time, every time. Every time. And then whenever someone says it, KFC always will bring it up

and I'll be like, wait, are they saying that because they're trying to throw me off the scent of being the Truman in my own Truman Show right now? So it is one of those things. But 20, what was that? What year was which Thanos was that? 2014. Yeah. 2014 Thanos was kind of like shit man

and he got his he was in over his head yeah she was in because she is a nexus being that can probably fuck up the tva if she wants to yeah that's i would imagine that's the official stance of my mom's basement i think yeah i think i think wanda greater than sign tva boom there it is all right our final question comes from jb Wait, sorry. This is just a very random question. Did you learn this the same way I did? Alligator eating the bigger number for greater than? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Of course. That's the easiest way to remember that. Loki question from JB. As the god of mischief with all of the new timeline control knowledge, will Loki somehow change things around so that he doesn't die in Infinity War, or do you think he knows that's now what needs to be done to save things? I do think he's going to leave it be. I think he's going to leave the sacred timeline as it is at this point

and sort of view this as his second lease on life and like his chance to get things right. That's the vibe I get from it. He's going to have a chance, right? There's going to be a moment where Loki can make the move. I think it's going to be put in front of him, yeah. Yeah. I can't have the cat number one on the sus list,

but I really do want to believe that Loki's going to do it. Because we've seen him do enough things. He stabs me in the back after I put my neck out for you like that, Loki. I'm going to be pissed. What's the agent that he kills? Coulson. I don't want him to Colson you're like I'm looking at you and I just see that fucking spear

go right through your fucking body I just feel like such a fucking jerk it's such an idiot saying I believe look he's gonna do right thing I think he's gonna do the right thing but I think in very Loki fashion we'll see he does the right thing but he still does a lot of really

wrong things right afterwards like he becomes like the leader of some place like basically enslaves a population. We did see in the in the trailer right that image of him where it's the one that Trey drew you as. Yeah. He's got his arms out he's got the crown back on he kind of has like a Loki for election button on or something

that looks like a villainous Loki. Yes. That looks like he's up to some mischief. Hijinks to some mischief. Hijinks. Yeah, exactly. Mischief. By the way, next episode, the way you say mischief the first time is how we have to say it the rest of the episode.

So if you mischief it, either by mistake or on purpose. Now it's like a USB. It's like 50-50, and I'm going to get it wrong every time. I can't say the emperor's last name. Yeah, you say Papaltean. I'm not saying it.

Emperor. The emperor. All right. This has been a blast. It's great getting to do My. I'm not saying it. Emperor. The emperor. All right. This has been a blast. It's great getting to do My Mom's Basement in person. If we're able to do it, we'll do it in person whenever we can. If not, we'll go back to the Zoom thing, which isn't the worst thing in the world. But stay tuned.

That's like a YouTube thing. Every week, tune in and be like, are they in person? Are they in Zoom? It'll be a new thing.