My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 136 - 'LOKI' EPISODE 4 RECAP WITH CLEM

Episode Date: July 2, 2021

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Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome back to My Mom's Basement. It is a special Loki recap edition of My Mom's Basement. I am back with Clem and we have a mind-bending episode to break down today. Clem, how are you feeling after Michael Waldron fucking took the brain out of your head, stomped on it, made it a little mushy, and threw it back in there with episode four?

That son of a bitch put it in a blender too, Bob. He hit it on puree and it throws it back in. I mean, you can't really tell the difference before or after, but the brain is not doing well right now. I said last week business is about to pick up. Business after, but the brain is not doing well right now. I said last week, business is about to pick up. Business has picked up. Business is up. Business is booming. Business is through the roof. And it starts with the title. You click and you go to your Disney Plus, you scroll, and you

see the Nexus event, and I'm like, oh, fuck. What are we about to be doing here? Just an absolute... People were asking for an emergency My Mom's Basement. I'm like, guys, it's like one day is all we have to do. But this is... They were asking for it at My Mom's Basement. I'm like, guys, it's like one day is all we have to do. They were asking for it at like 4 in the morning. They were like, no.

This is putting the like – we're at the ultimate test right now of like the no spoilers, like when are spoilers allowed. I think the new rule is going to have to be if you don't watch it by Wednesday Wednesday night, I think Thursday should be the embargo should be over because if they released it on ABC at 9 o'clock at night, we could all at 10 o'clock be like, all right, let's talk about it. It's preposterous that we have to wait through Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday to just make a vague meme

or put a screen cap or something like that. We're going to have to appeal to either Waldron, King Flag himself. I follow Waldron on Instagram. I think his Instagram handle, funny enough, ironically is fake Michael Waldron, but that is his real,

that's his Instagram handle. And he, he posted a story today of Mobius with like, I will remember you. And as we're recording this, it's Thursday. So he waited one day and was like, we fucking pruned mobius off our show

motherfuckers although you know they did sort of reveal spoilers that maybe pruning isn't actually killing people so we'll get into all of that later this was the ultimate 3g episode for me because i stayed up for it and i was really struggling to stay up for it like i had been moving furniture earlier in the day like getting the new apartment ready so i was a little tired i was like nodding out and i was like you know what i'm gonna take the 3g pan out i'm gonna smoke a little 3g i'm gonna start thinking about the theories and that'll keep me awake and you know what it did by the end of episode four though i was like all right now my brain's fried and i don't know if i'll ever be able to get it back i was like hunter b20 or c20 or whatever when they were like yep the enchantment scrambled the brain. We don't know if we're ever going to get like,

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I think WandaVision, we got at most a taste, like a little droplet on the tongue. This is like we've now put one foot into the multiverse world and we're doing doctor strange without spoilers there was some spider-man stuff that you know got leaked online today with toys and stuff like that so there is a lot of things so get your three-chee ready because that's going to be the fucking rocket ship that takes us into these multiverses it's like an end game when uh they go to space for the first time rocket's like an end game when uh they go to space for the first time rockets like who he has been to space and then they all like raise their hand

they haven't been to space or whatever and then they show steve's eye opening that's going to be all of the marvel fans like our eyes just like oh my god we're not ready for this and uh we'll talk about loki the episode now i know everyone's eager but when we get into questions i'll also talk a little bit about black widow because i was lucky enough to go to the press screening of Black Widow in New York City. So I've actually seen it and spoiler alert, I liked it. I liked it a lot. So I won't spoil anything, obviously. I will wait for everyone to see it themselves, but me and Clem will talk about it. I guess if you have any questions for me, I could answer them and we'll get into it. But for now, let's get into loki episode four because this was the most talked about episode of the series thus far

we knew that some shit was up when marvel studios tweeted like meet the timekeepers tomorrow on loki with that character poster it's like uh-oh they set the stage for this one that was that was fucked up like i like i like when they play with us and whatever, but I didn't have that coming to me. I'm trying to keep the brain in order, trying to figure out what's going to happen next, and then they're just throwing it right in our face. They're smacking us in the face with the posters right there. But we met them, and how we got there and back and everywhere in between was quite a ride. Oh, my God.

So we kick off with the Marvel intro. We go right into Asgard, beautiful Asgard. And you see a young girl, Loki could assume this is Sylvie. This is Lady Loki right off the jump gets arrested by the TVA. Ravonna is one of the officers. This is when she's a little younger, it seems. And one thing to note when she did get arrested, the little girl was playing with dolls and toys. And the scenario she was saying was like, and the dragon swoops into Asgard, but then the knights come in and they save Asgard. So some people were saying already, we don't know why she was arrested from this episode. Was she arrested because she had a good heart?

And Lokis are not supposed to, you know, inherently they're supposed to be like, let's destroy Asgard. But maybe Sylvie had a good heart. She's brought into the TVA. We see all of the same people that we saw when Loki was brought in an episode one, the same person guarding that, you know, are you a robot metal detector, the same person saying, can you verify everything you've ever said? So obviously time does move differently in wherever they're located. If this is the quantum city or something, I don't't know but they didn't seem to age at all the the variants uh that are employed at the tva and then lady loki is taken before a judge she escapes she grabs the temp pad and we get the loki intro

um or well actually they cut to like modern ravonna at this point and she walks before the time keepers and then we get the Loki intro so it's the really like all right we're going to show you the timekeepers this episode you get the first taste of what their little lair throne room looks like what a beautifully designed environment whoever was responsible for the lighting the blue smoke the way that looked was awesome very unique big time Zool vibes i got from that you know straight out of ghostbusters and i mean hey we have talked to waldron again and see if that was another one of those i got that and um all i could think of like that must be terrible for

the infrastructure of this building just to have a room that just has you know mist and it's by getting into like the concrete and stuff like that and sienna sienna was watching with me and her i never knew she like you knew this as like a phrase she was that was a big opening and i'm like opening you know how to use opening like that like yeah that is a big opening girl um hero loki that was kind of the big thing i thought that was cool she's like valkyrie is slaying the dragon and they had like the the wolf that was like hello's wolf which i guess there's a bunch of different that's a asgardian thing i love when we go to asgard no matter what you know whenever you just see like the kingdom or whatever and just the layout i always love even new asgard when thick thor was in endgame like i just love even that vibe which is a completely different look

than it so i feel like i'm an asgardian at heart, even though I say it really weird, Asgardian. Well, you know what? I feel like I didn't know what I had until it was gone. Like, you know what? Thor 1, I wasn't the biggest fan of. Thor 2, I know a lot of people don't like, but I do. And Thor 3, I was like, man, this is awesome. I love Asgard.

I'm finally in Asgard. Oh, it's gone. But as they've said, Asgard's not a place. It's a people. That's the whole thing of Asgard. So we can be Asgardians. That's what they're saying to make you feel bad that it's gone. It's like, who's always going to live in your heart?

It's like, it's good luck. You know? I love how Kid Loki did the old bite and run, which is such a kid move. And the other thing was I saw this. Someone tweeted it out or something. The guy who is being held captive by the guards, he has the mustache. He ends up being one of the guys who's watching the timeline when Sylvie kind of nukes it all.

It's the same dude. He has the mustache. He looks like he's about the same age. So it's like he was a variant that like got arrested. They might've just done some sort of brainwashing on him and turned him into that. So that was one of those little Easter eggs that I think might come back, you know, full circle.

And this might be one of those shows you rewatch after it's all over. You throw some 3C in and you get there. Oh boy, we don't know what's coming up next. Already people are talking about, like, we have to go back now and see everything that was ever pruned in the show. Just so we know, like, what is left in that environment. But we get the Loki intro. We now cut to Ravonna and Mobius talking about the timekeepers and how they blame her.

She's under a lot of pressure. She's feeling a lot of stress. Mobius says, let me talk to C20. I want to see what the, you know, enchantment blame her. She's under a lot of pressure. She's feeling a lot of stress. Mobius says, let me talk to C20. I want to see what the, you know, enchantment showed her. And Ravonna is like, listen,

C20 is dead. We didn't want to say this, but the enchantment completely scrambled her brain and she's gone. So already things are sus. You're like the fucking girl, that Loki scramble. Oh my God, this whole thing.

We go back to Lamentis one at this point. And Sylvie says that her being born, the goddess of mischief was not supposed to happen it created a diversion from the sacred timeline this conversation confused me a little bit maybe it was just my 3 a.m brain but i have rewatched it i'm confused as to whether or not sylvie was born on the sacred timeline it sounds like she was and then just the fact that she was born was not supposed to happen so that was why she got arrested somehow but in that case who are her parents is you know like how did they give birth to a lady loki how did they give birth to another a different version of the same being on the sacred timeline this is where we either a have to talk to michael waldron or b just order a lot of three cheat and just go in a room and write it

all down and see where we end up because those are the questions on a different timeline was she not maybe we'll get that clarified later in the series maybe it's left ambiguous for a reason but that's certainly something that if you think about it too hard it's going to make your brain hurt yeah it's like are you half elf is every loki half oh no obviously not because at the end we see that there are certain creatures that are most certainly not half elves um i this whole thing like i need at the end unless in the next two episodes they can you know put a nice bow on it and wrap it up and give it to me. Which they may explain that because Loki is going to need it explained to him a little bit. Right. Like,

so there can be a, the avenue for exposition there. Agreed. And what a line you can say to where you go everywhere. I go and created a nexus event. Like what a, what a fucking brag. Like,

all right. All right. Sylvie tough guy over here. I get it. You're fucking special. You create a nexus event. Um, but is it,

and again, is it because it's that pure heart or maybe a worthy Loki, right? So it's like if there's a worthy Loki and then is this, this Loki being one of those, we kind of see how he gets redeemed in the end. Maybe the Loki is just supposed to be a dickhead. And that's, it's like, oh, you're not a complete dickhead. Varian. Too good a heart. So she has lived in these apocalypses we could assume since

she was a child pretty much they're watching the timelines back in the tva b15 is getting antsy this is our first clue that maybe something happened to her when she was enchanted we go back to lamentous and she says are we all always supposed to lose? Is that what makes a Loki a Loki? We're all losers. And Loki says, no, we're all survivors, which is a great way to put it. That being the thing that links all Lokis is perfect after they've killed him off a hundred times at the MCU. And nothing has made me more grateful that they brought Loki back at any point than this show. I'm like, oh my God, this is so good.

Thank God we still have Tom Hiddleston in the MCU. As a Mets fan, I feel like Loki's a Mets fan. He's like, are we Death Steelers? No, we're destined to survive. We're fucking survivors. We don't die. We survive. We come back next season, next movie, whatever it may be.

You can't kill us. You can kill us by the coroner's report, but we come back and that's all that matters. We're cockroaches. We're like Loki. Loki in a mets hat that's what i need that guy is a fucking someone photoshop it right now for clem you gotta give him that mets photoshop and speak maybe that's why because the entire time i'm thinking why are these goddamn assholes just sitting out in this asteroid storm or whatever you want to call it like they're just plopping down but like they're loki's they don't die.

They multiply kind of a thing. So I actually got a shot that I, and I'm not like a big time art or the CGI or the cinematography, the asteroid or the planet coming out. It was such a fucking awesome seat. It was so awesome. So a Nexus event is created big time in this moment on the apocalyptic planet and everything,

because there's some romantic tension between loki and loki what we talked about last week is it incest is it masturbation we don't know but it's there it exists and we see this string from the from the timeline that's going off like basically straight up and they're like holy fuck that's not someone stepping on a leaf that's something we've never seen before it allows them to realize they're on Lamentis 1. The TVA agents come through. They arrest them. They bring them back into the Time Variance Authority.

And Mobius immediately calls Loki an asshole and a bad friend, which that's got to sting when it's coming from Mobius, such a pure-hearted guy. God of assholes and kind of bad friends. That's what Loki is now. He's not the god of mischief. He's the god of assholes and kind of bad friends that's what loki is now he's not the god of mischief he's the god of assholes and kind of bad friends um by the way the way like you said that nexus like whatever the the meter going straight up is that basically just saying loki was getting

a boner for himself and they became a nexus event or was it like sylvie getting a lady boner maybe a little bit of both and they're like i think a little bit of both i think they were both feeling it yeah and last week like we said is it incest if two loki's have sex with each other is it masturbation is it just good old-fashioned rando sex and someone said it's a sexist event i think that's what it is i think it's a legitimate sexist event that's what's going on that's fantastic and i mean the meters are going crazy it was crazier than all the little things that were splitting as Lady Loki was basically like destroying all these different places with her time charges. Sexist events going off.

I couldn't believe it. So Loki tells Owen Wilson Mobius, the TVA is lying to you. And then he gets thrown into a bad memory torture chamber with Lady Sif. What a cameo we didn't expect. Another cameo that reminded me almost WandaVision-esque of like the Randall Parks or Darcy Lewis, like these characters from the past that we never expected would come back that aren't necessarily like,

oh my God, it's fucking Luke Skywalker, you know, like we said, but just a pleasant surprise and one that makes you smile. And of course the scene was very funny. She just kept coming through saying he's going to be alone forever, kicking him in the balls, punching him in the face. Put that on loop.

I'll laugh every time. And not a bad payday, right? Just get to kind of rehearse the same lines like she earned that. I know she was in the Ragnarok, which I guess everyone was really pissed off about. And it's like they kind of made it up to you like Marvel always does. Like people get mad at Marvel. It's going to come back full circle. I guess you have to like let them know. Put it in the suggestion box like Marvel always does. People get mad at Marvel. It's going to come back full circle. I guess you have to let them know.

Put it in the suggestion box for Kevin Feige. He'll take the suggestion. He'll be like, all right, we'll get that in like three years. It's something in a media you don't even recognize we're going to be doing in three years because I don't think any of us saw Disney Plus years ago back when like 4-2 was out or something like that. When I saw the hooky get thrown in the red door, I'm like boy he's in trouble now that wasn't good um and like bad memory prison i don't there's not a lot of things worse than i can think of then like getting tossed into like one of your top five worst memories oh my god imagine just getting tossed into like dave reaming me out like on the radio or something just over and over and over again and it's like god damn i just gotta sit here and

take it that would be horrendous and i think at some point maybe it's before this maybe it's after this but i didn't i forgot to write it in my notes so i want to bring it up now mobius mentions vampires speaking of things that they're teasing for the future blade is on the docket so i don't know if vampires have been like mentioned before not but like confirmation yep they exist in the mcu and we're gonna need a bad motherfucker to take care of them no line is just a throwaway line i'm sure he had to get that cleared by the big dog up top unless the big dog was like hey just throw the v word in that script somewhere there mr waldron and we'll go from there uh it's kind of like with the atlantis stuff with wakanda right it's like the earthquakes and stuff like that so yep i i agree with that and

they kind of meant like Titans, which I think Eternals is going to have a little bit of all that in there. So, keep giving us those breadcrumbs. I'm going to keep eating them up. I love this fucking show. I don't know if I mentioned it, by the way, last time, but I did purchase Jack Kirby's original collection for Eternals.

So, I want to dig into that before the movie. I'm going to learn. I'm going to dig in a little bit. So, I'm excited about that. At this point, Mobius goes into Ravonna's office. He requests to talk to Sylvie. He's like, let me talk to both Lokis, see what I could get while this Loki's in the fucking bad memory chamber. She refuses. She says, I don't want what happened to C20 to happen to you. It's too dangerous. I know you would normally interrogate them, but she's being very sus about it. I'm not going to let you in a room with this lady. And B-15, outside of this meeting, goes up to Mobius and says, what, did Loki say anything to you?

Did he say, did he tell you anything? Mobius is like, yeah, he said TVA is lying to all of us. I don't know, some fucking cockroach thing to survive. Mobius then goes in. He gets Loki to interrogate him for real. He tells Loki that Sylvie was for real. He tells Loki that Sylvie was pruned. He's messing with Loki at this point. Loki doesn't know that. And this allows Mobius to realize Loki fell for himself on Lamentus 1. And he calls him an incredible seismic

narcissist. That's got to sting. Even if you're Loki and you are that narcissist, just getting that pointed out, it's got a sting. And then he reveals, all right, she's alive. You know, we didn't really prune her, but you're fucking crazy for falling for yourself.

He's like, this is the thing that can collapse worlds. It's collapsed in my reality right now. Back to the future. We have like Michael J. Fox at his mom, like kissing and she doesn't feel right. Like that's the kind of vibes I'm getting from all this.

So yeah, that, and, and I went on the, the direct podcast the mcu direct and uh the uh one of the liam i met him this week at the black widow he's a titan like thanos he's eight feet tall and dwarfed you and listen right like not this way people know about robbie fox like robbie fox may not have a lot of like girth on him a lot of you know meat on his bones you're a tall lad though you are i'm six foot yeah i'm six foot liam made me look like i was five nine hey we do not five nine shame on this but i don't want to i don't want to get any enemies at the company you know in terms of the

five nine but he said uh matt said silky as a couple name i think that's a good name right it's either good it's either lovi or silky and i think silky works that's our benefit of the mcu so i thought silky was a nice thing and of the mcu so i thought silky was a nice thing and it was kind of it was kind of cool to see this version of loki who mind you this isn't loki that had his redemption arc and saved thor and you know had his thing or you know ragnarok he just was trying to like basically enslave new york city and a couple episodes later here we are he's catching feelings and you, I think when you're told enough times you're going to be by yourself for the rest of your life in this fucking time cell that he was in, to kind of see him, like, have the person thinks he lost her and now gets her back, it was kind of a cool moment, I think, all around.

At the same time, even if he marries her and lives a happily ever after with her, wouldn't that technically be him being alone for the rest of his life? Oh, fuck! with her wouldn't that technically be him being alone for the rest of his life oh oh so i love dolan wilson goes i ought to box your ears i mean boxing ears is a bad one that's like in terms of like different levels of bad it's like that's not too bad that's like tier five or so tier three is like um so open the mouth is that a bad one oh yes open the mouth is an awful one i was thinking more of a wet willy when someone just throws a wet willy in your hair and then number one like the fish hooks all those kind of things all those things that are and my friends and i got into a really bad uh we were in jamaica for spring break and we were tabletopping each other so you know when the one person crouches behind you,

you push them. And it got to the point where you'd like be talking on the beach with your friend and you just be kicking your legs behind you the entire time, just so that they didn't tabletop you. So boxing your ears is actually not that bad of a thing, but then you get the hot ears for the rest of the day. Just an awful thing to even threaten this poor Loki. Like maybe Mobius is the kind of mischief.

Maybe he's somewhere in that little Loki land bouncing around around he's a variant himself um at this point though loki does tell mobius you are a variant you're you existed at some point before the tva they took you from the sacred timeline and are basically imprisoning you here you're a slave to them and he's like yeah good try and loki's like of all the liars here you're the biggest and he says why because i told you your girlfriend was killed and he's like no because of the lies you tell yourself and at this point i'm like this is a fucking rap battle every line i'm like oh it was fucking great writing all around and hunter b15 then goes into sylvie's cell she takes her back to the alabama apocalypse and she has a run in enchantment on her.

So she could see that this is for real. She also existed outside. I guess she gets to see again that she was happy before the TVA. She said pretty intense scene. And one that made me feel pretty bad for putting Hunter B 15 on that sus list early on. Yeah. This one came back full circle and Dennis in the ass bit me in the ass.

Bob takes sometimes take some credit with it. Takes some credit because I agreed heavily with her. Yeah, you agreed heavily. Yeah, she was against our guy Mobius, but yeah, she was under my control the whole time basically. And how do you like – she has to trust a Loki. There's a Category 8 hurricane going on around her. But at the same point, I guess there's something deep in your soul that you remember whatever the fuck is going on around her but at the same point like i guess there's something deep in your soul that you remember whatever the fuck is going on so uh i don't know how i could ever

trust a loki but um i i do feel really bad she had such like a tough guy act about her but it seems like all these tva agents do and none of them have any idea what's going on i thought i'm happy they didn't do it but i would have loved like the owen wilson wow when he said you know the variant thing was going on he is a variant himself wow so mobius goes up he has a drink with ravonna and he keeps saying why can't i interrogate sylvie she says again you know i don't want to allow you to be enchanted whatever and she just keeps trying to ask him this question where would you want to go if you go anywhere on this question. Where would you want to go? If you go anywhere on the whole timeline, where would you want to go? He's avoiding answering it. He's asking about C20. He's asking about Sylvie and Ravonna says, listen, this is a big case.

Let's have a drink. Let's chill out. The timekeepers also, finally, you get to meet them. You can come up and like, this is the case. case he's like about time he then distracts her a little bit and steals her tempad mobius getting so sus that he's like all right i gotta take matters into my own hands investigate a little bit he goes into the library and he sees c20s debrief video which features ravona looking more guilty than anyone's ever looked by the way that on the temp the the view of ravona we got she was like what about box face yes and i have to save that one but that's what she looked and we get to see in the video she's like i was a variant i was happy like oh my god and this is the thing that confirms for mobius that loki's been telling the truth all along. He is also a variant. He goes into Loki's cell again, and he's like, listen, dude,

is this for real? You swear to me that Sylvie did not put that memory in her mind. And he's like, nope, she can't put memories in. She can only take what's already there. He's like, all right, come with me. Let's go. We're a team now. We went from, like, rivals throwing people in bad memory cells

to, like, buddy cop, you know, right on a dime. we're a team now. We went from like rivals throwing people in bad memory cells to like buddy cotton, you know, right on the, right on a dime. Loki mentions like, how about the word of a friend? Yeah. It's like, all right, we're back. We're a team, but not for long. Because as soon as we get out of the cell, Ravonna is there waiting for him with a bunch of TVA agents.

She's like, you got something for me? And he's like, Oh, yeah, I forgot. I swapped them. Classic goof. You know how they look similar. She's not buying it at all, so he just kind of lets it sit a beat, and he goes, you know where I would go if I could go anywhere in the world? If I could go anywhere?

Yes. I would go and get on my jet ski. He's like, I want to go back to wherever I'm from, he says. Maybe I had a jet ski. He actually mentions it. He says, maybe I would be able to ride my jet ski he's like i want to go back to wherever i'm from he says maybe i had a jet ski he actually mentions it he says maybe i would be able to ride by jet ski and right away ravona cold-blooded says prune him she has seen enough i guess he's really seen too much in her eyes and he gets pruned right away mobius is gone and this was a shocking moment in the series i was like no my guy at this point we think that's actually killing them spoilers it's not and ravonna has both loki's brought up

to the time keepers at this point very much and i got so many people writing in it saying this but how could they not return of the jedi fives when they were in that elevator big time and this one goes out to my boy Mobius. It's been a long day without you, my friend. And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again. Putting Owen Wilson should be illegal. The feelings I had in my stomach as I saw him just disappear. And that weird, like they say, the Neo Matrix scream. It's guttural. It's just wrong on so many levels. disappear is it wrong that like weird like they say the neo like matrix scream i just like it's guttural it's just wrong on so many levels i just hope he's right now riding a jet ski out somewhere

wherever he is the um the little time devices they have or whatever i get big super nintendo vibes i know that predates robbie fox a little bit that graphics at the 16 bit totally it's it's almost like it was like the orange against like the dull like gray black like it wasn't a high quality retina display by any means by any means um and yeah so wherever whatever world we're living in we're time and like loki's magic doesn't work they got to get like they got to get basically it's crazy to say it this day and age but like basically our kind of people like the people that make the barstool app like the barstool app's awesome i can't believe we reached the point where we actually make shit that doesn't break like our website just didn't work for like like basically our kind of people, like the people that make the Barstool app, like the Barstool app is awesome. I can't believe we reached a point

where we actually make shit that doesn't break. Like our website just didn't work for like days at a time back in like, you know, half a decade ago. And here we are now, we're better than the people in where we're controlling time. What the hell is going on?

And Ravonna, I mean, just the coldest bitch in the goddamn world. Let's call it what it is, right? Coldest bitch in the world. I mean, in the elevator, when Sylvie says to her, the one piece of back and forthest bitch in the goddamn world. Let's call it what it is, right? Coldest bitch in the world. I mean, in the elevator, when Sylvie says to her, the one piece of back and forth they have in the elevator, Sylvie's like, what was my Nexus event?

She says, do you remember me when I was a kid? Ravonna says, of course. She's like, what was my Nexus event? Why did you take me from my kingdom as a child? And Ravonna says, well, I don't remember. That was cool. And I think that's bullshit. Do you think that's bullshit?

I think she knows. I think it's bullshit, yeah. I think it's a big reason, too. I think we're going to find out. And I think that's bullshit. Do you think that's bullshit? I think she knows. I think it's bullshit, yeah. I think it's a big reason, too. I think we're going to find out, and it's very Loki-centric, obviously. Going back to the question she asked Mobius, and then he responded later to, if you could go anywhere on the timeline, where would you go, Bob Fox? I mean, any year, any whatever? Mm-hmm.

That's a great question. I would probably go to, like, see Oasis at Nebworth in the nineties. To be honest, I probably wouldn't go. I mean, people are going to be like, how could you not go see like who really killed JFK or something? But I would probably like go to see queen at live aid or something like,

you know, like I would go to an iconic concert with it. I, I, I have no problem with that. Like part of me like wants to do dinosaurs and just see what was going on back then. That would be fucking sweet. We're talking prehistoric time.

I'm also – and this is a tough question to throw at you. Without announced, without any 3C going through your body, all that kind of stuff. No, it's always going through my body. I'm like the Hulk. I'm always in. I lived through the 90s. I kind of just want to go back and be like, well, the 90s is awesome'm always in apart i lived through the 90s i kind of just want to go back and be like but the 90s is awesome i remember because i fucking love the 90s part of

me just wants to go there and then i was always the 70s and the 50s i'd love to see like the innocence of the 50s and like everyone was post-war and the baby boom all that stuff and then the 70s just the the free love man all the stuff that was going on so what stock imagine that that'd be cool i don't think there's really a wrong answer uh to it i think there's basically unlimited right answers so that that'll be the question of the week let us know yeah in the comments go on the timeline let us know in in the comments go back to 2003 see see pre barstool day porno i see him getting everything started flying around the country trying to get a little five-year-old bob i'd be like the the little lady loki girl from the beginning of the episode like where are you

taking me am i going to barstool now like oh here we go he's just playing with his batman figurines he has no idea the stuff that the man he's about to become exactly so they actually go up to the time keepers like we said this very cool environment the blue smoke there's platforms everywhere and we see the three time keepers sitting on these thrones almost looks like they're floating or something and all three of them have like this crazy look they almost don't look like they did like one of them had that big beard mustache thing one of them had a skinnier neck they don't look like they did in the miss minute cartoon or whatever and they call the loki's a cosmic disappointment ravonna is imprisoning both

loki's with the collars at this point and they try to like step up and attack them she brings them both back with the rewind button and then the elevator door dings open and who is it but hunter b15 to the rescue she releases the loki's from their collars a big fight scene takes place a lot of people also compared this to i know you don't love the Last Jedi comparisons, but it was Last Jedi throne room vibes in a very good way, in a very like, fuck yeah. We were happy to see both Lokis go back to back, team up against these bastards. It did not take them long to dismantle the TVA agents. They made quick work of them. And then the timekeeper, when they're kind of cornered, they realized they don't have anyone blocking them. And one in the middle goes, you're a child

of the timekeepers too, Sylvie. We can talk. She goes, oh yeah. Picks up this big ass sword, this big dagger, fucking throws it at him and beheads him. Again, kind of Snoke vibes. You know, they sliced that ugly motherfucker in half they chop this guy's head off the head sparks starts rolling other time keepers start laughing and they almost do this like back and forth thing that looks like when the chucky cheese animatronics like power down and they do power down they close captioning even said it powering down and you go oh fuck those time keepers weren't real and then i went oh well that's why the cgi looked a little strange while they were talking like while they were talking i was like man that cgi is cheap

they look like robots and then a robot head falls and they're like it's a robot and i was like oh fuck kevin feige fucking got one over on me again i my notes was the time keepers kind of stink i'm like what the fuck is going on with this nonsense and And I mean, I got kind of like the Red Skull Vormir voice at first, but then it just became almost like the Disney Hall of Presidents. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? We have the three wizards of Oz telling me what the fuck, you know, all this stuff about the time traveling. I'm like, go suck my dick, you fucking time.

Like, you guys are the guys I was scared of. I'm just more scared of Ms. Minutes ass-ass than you guys. So, yeah, I have to give them credit. Like, they did pull the okie-dokie on us. You know, if you should be scared or respect someone in the Marvel Universe, you will

learn to respect or be scared of them. Those guys were a bunch of clown shoes. But, again, I have no idea what's going on now that we have a robotic head, basically, was the grand reveal of that entire sequence. It looked crazy too, right? With like the rubbery skin and the robotic head. Like it was a weird, creepy looking head.

And they were laughing at him too, which was the weirdest thing. So it's like you guys understand what's going on. And it was, you know, it was almost like the two old guys from the Muppets. You know how they were laughing at the, at whatever's going on and they're complaining? They're just laughing at one of their dudes just getting his head chopped off. So I did let out a little laugh at all, that I have to say. Loki says immediately the line he lets out is, then who created the TVA?

And that's where I think the series is going to go. I think you and I both have an answer. We'll get into that. We'll save it for questions. But Loki then briefly tries to kind of romantically talk to sylvie he's like so uh i'm not used to this but back on lamentous one you and me kind of you know writes on a note like do you like me circle yes circle no and he grabs her and as soon as he does he kind of does the uh miles morales actually like the hey um he gets pruned by ravona another shocking moment i also wanted to shout out what a unique visual the pruning is we've seen people fade away we've seen people get like

burst open and there's only so many ways you can like kill characters pruning is a very cool like electrical current fade away thing and sylvie disarms her immediately and ravona's like fucking kill me do it and she says no you're gonna tell me everything credits another cliffhanger we're four for four on cliffhangers with loki but there was something about this one that made me go oh i don't think that's it it was the first episode where i was like i better really really make sure and i like whipped up my xbox controller scrolled to the post-credit scene and of course we got one this was kind of a parallel to when he's caught in the avengers when he wakes up and he's like where am i whatever he looks up and instead of seeing the avengers he sees four loki's staring back at him. Richard E. Grant as old man Loki, a child Loki, a black Loki holding what looks like a version of Mjolnir, which maybe he's like, Odin liked him better

than Thor in that timeline, that universe or something. And bizarrely enough, a fucking alligator Loki or a crocodile Loki. I don't want to offend the alligator crocodile communities. I don't know the difference it was one or the other it was stunning I think that's maybe a reference to the fact that in the comics there's like a frog Thor so like there's a frog Thor alligator Loki it's like you know but oh my god where are we going with the rest of this series who knows and also in the background you see like a destroyed Avengers Stark Tower. People are saying, is this a universe where Loki won? Is this a universe where the nuke hit New York? Where are we? Does this mean Mobius is now in this universe? Is he in different universe? What's going on?

So I've been told the difference between I've been told there's been reptiles and amphibians. I've been told there's been alligators or crocodiles more times than I can count. And I always instantly forget it. So I'm with you on that. However, I'm calling that a crocodile Loki for one reason and one reason only. Because locodile kind of makes sense. Like I can't really do an alligator with the word Loki. But locodile, I think that works.

So it's a crocodile. And also shout out to Steve Irwin. Like Crikey. There we go. All right. I can get down with that. I'm trying to figure it out. Bob, we have each other's backseat.

We're very – so I'll defend you to the death. When Loki got tased or whatever and disappeared, I had it all – I couldn't tweet it out, obviously, but I wanted to do, RIP my dog, Loki, Loki, Loki. And what happens when Loki dies means he's going to steal the Tesseract. They broke it down. I saw someone break it down on Twitter. It was like, Loki dies at Thor, then in Avengers, he steals the Tesseract. Then he dies at Thor 2, then he steals the Tesseract. And just every single time, he dies and steals the Tesseract.

So if Loki has to somehow steal the Tesseract, even though I guess he technically doesn't die, so we'll have to figure that out the new york city thing is interesting and i this is just like a straight guess on my part which i think all we can really do at this point is um i feel like loki's destiny is to be in new york for that you know invasion whatever it may be and in this scenario he wins or you know comes closer to winning than losing. Because that's what New York would look like after Thanos' fucking army just ravaged it, right? So that was my, like, two cents on what that could mean. I am very interested in the Mjolnir Loki more than anything just because it's, like, worthy.

That's a worthiness thing. And I don't know if that changes across multiverses and stuff like that. But, like, Loki is the furthest thing from someone who should be able to pick up that hammer right and i love the richard e grant loki in the original loki costume which reminds you of like the wandavision when they went back for the halloween episode is phase four they're just going to give us all the silly looking outfits in the coolest fucking fashions. Yeah. Oh God. It's, it's kind of like, um, we've had it with Wanda vision. We had it with,

uh, Wanda and vision. And then I guess quick silver had it as well. So I, I can, and speed a little bit. You can say the kids. Yeah.

So I love when we get the little throwbacks there and especially, um, like the old school Loki, that's a, that's a, that's a look and a half right there. So, um,

which one's your favorite? What's your favorite look out of all the Lokis we've had so far? It's the old school. I'm a sucker for those bright, flashy, spandex colors, the over-the-top long horns. I love that. That was awesome. I'm praying to God

that the vote Loki stuff is going to be just a world of Lokis and they're voting for the president and we just get more costumes. I'm sure there's plenty of Loki costumes out there. There might even be a Thor Loki costume, right? That would be a sweet thing, right? Maybe we'll see our guy Bobby Carnevale

Loki in that world. Hey, what the fuck is this? An alligator Loki. Give us Moynihan. Give us Moynihan. God damn it. You want to get into the sus list? Let's get into the sus list. And this is the sus list.

Everything's the sus list right now, Bob. Everything's the sus list. Because what is the one person we're trusting right now more than anybody? Loki Lofiesson and variant Lokis. Two of them. So we trust the Lokis more than we trust anyone else on the show, which is in itself. Like, imagine, remember episode one, we're like, listen, Loki, I know you're going to

try to trick me, but we're not falling for right now. And here we are, episode four, only a month later. And we're like, well, Loki's the only person we can trust. The dumbest thing you could do is to trust Loki, but we have to. So that makes us sus, him sus. Everyone in this whole goddamn world is sus. The TVA is sus. Ms. Min is sus. If you're watching this video, you're probably sus, him sus. Everyone in this whole goddamn world is sus. The TVA is sus. Ms. Min is sus.

If you're watching this video, you're probably sus right now. And hey, if you're watching this video and you're sus, like the video. Right there. Go like it. And if you don't, you're on the sus list next week. You're on the sus list next week. That's right. The only way to get off the sus list is to like the video.

Now we're holding people hostage with the sus list. Honestly, I have – who – all right. So this week only because everything is upside down. Who is not on the sus list? Can we say Mobius is not on the sus list because he seems innocent? Yeah, because he was pretty stunned when he found out he was a variant. Okay. Mobius, B-15. B-15. yeah because he he was pretty stunned when he found out he was a variant okay b15 but like 15 it's so tough you can't because like you can't say all the variants be in the tva because like

ravona what was she was she a variant at some point like she obviously cares way more about the tva than anyone else so that's the most us did ravona did ravona get that promotion because she was kind of like a TVA agent? She gets kind of like a corner office and a nice little trophy case, a lot of stuff. Did she get into some dirty shit? Is she riding Kang's dick? I don't know what's going on, but there's a lot of different questions right now.

So, I mean, clearly, sus list. I mean, she has like that look about her. She's mean. She's like really just mean. Don't really dig her. Yeah, cold as a motherfucker so sus list is everyone uh what's the guy uh the guy who had the infinity stones in his desk you see casey casey's on the list too because casey has not been seen for a couple of days now

a couple of episodes also people were saying did his desk get proned in that one episode like someone throws like the desk in front and then like someone tries to like prone low or Loki throws the desk in front of him as someone's trying to prone him or something. Some people were saying maybe the desk with the stones got prone pruned to wherever Loki now is. Oh boy. We got Loki and a fucking desk of infinity stones. Who knows? Let's get into the questions. Cause we got a couple of them this week. first of which is from jake patterson and this is the first and foremost one

that we have to answer up front he says who do you think is really running the tva if the time keepers are just robots and listen i think we're in agreement on this podcast it's gotta be kang the conqueror we're all in on it. Listen, he's got the romantic connection to Ravonna. His character's entirely based in time travel, in time travel technology. He's like a brilliant mechanic or engineer

or whatever. He could have engineered those robots. He could have engineered the whole place. I think it's a complete Kang the Conqueror thing. And maybe even people were saying, is he somehow going to be the product of like two Lokis? Did he need them to get together for him to be born? But they already did it, but they don't realize it because it's a whole fucking time travel thing. And who knows?

And again, let's go back to episode one where Bob and Clem are like, listen, don't trust Loki. And like, all right, and we're not going to believe that some big time character is just going to come out of nowhere. And now we're like, we've completely Mephisto'd ourselves. Kang is the Mephisto of Loki without a doubt. God damn it. There's going to be

another series. That should be the first what if. What if Mephisto and Kang actually showed up in the shows you idiots thought they were showing up in. Who do we think it's going to show up in uh falcon and the winter soldier omega red yeah exactly god damn it god damn i love this shit i do this is the best this is honestly the best we got bad batch later this is the best time to be a nerd right now it is and then this is the thing is at the end of every episode we get those loki it's like the credit scene and that is basically the wand of every episode, we get those Loki. It's like the credit scene.

And that is basically the WandaVision like on steroids now. Because I'm like, now you guys are really fucking with my brain. And I really feel like there's some big things that are about to happen here. So it's just. WandaVision, at least not every episode was like the craziest cliffhanger. Like there were some episodes that just kind of ended like normal sitcoms or whatever. This one, every single episode has been a must watch cliffhanger it's crazy the next question comes from our friend cameron ramos he says do you think that when someone gets pruned they go into a world with all of their

other variants or do you think everyone is mixed in together so is loki in a world of all loki's and just loki's or is loki in the same world with mobius and different versions of mobius maybe and is it like fucking australia back in the day when they threw everyone on the island and they were like that's prison I like that's a good question I think they're probably in the same world I feel like Loki and Mobius are going to meet up and team up in this world and then Sylvie is going to be in the real world and they're gonna have to like come out of it with her help somehow okay I'm gonna go the opposite I'm gonna're going to have to like come out of it with her help somehow. Okay.

I'm going to go the opposite. I'm going to say there, it's basically like there's a Loki world. There's a Mobius world, all that kind of stuff. Now the question is, do these guys, is it, oh, is there multiple Mobius's variants that have gone into the TVA? Cause they're just destined to get off the sacred timeline for whatever reason. I'm going to say yes. And I had a shout out d vivolo six he had tweeted us that picture of all the old owen he's like is this where owen wilson is and there's a picture of different owen wilson characters like the one from wedding crashers there was

lightning mcqueen i'm gonna throw hansel from zoolander and all that he was on there what how awesome would that be if you just had different rant like all right what actor would you want to see just like his entire uh little world just filled with characters from that actor like an owen wilson that's incredible you have i got i got an immediate name that came to mind let's hear it gary oldman i want to see commissioner gordon chasing down drexel that's the one i like that one johnny depp is a good one right because johnny depp's played with so many characters you got jack sparrow edward scissorhands his shitty willy wonka but you know kind of a version in there maybe edward scissorhands could fucking kill him

denzel washington where everyone always says it's the same role just be the same guy a hundred different times nick fury mace Windu. Oh, imagine Obi-Wan and then the guy from Taken just fucking showing off against each other. Wow, there's a lot of different ways we could go with this one. Tom Hanks. That would be the most delightful variant world ever, right? Just Tom Hanks' variant world. I could just hang out with Forrest Gump for the rest of my days. And if you get tired of Forrest Gump, go hang out with Mr. Rogers.

Like, okay. And if you get tired of him, go hang out with Captain Phillips or Sully Sullenberger. That's basically the one take. And the one... Has Tom Hanks really ever played a villain before? Like, even Hanratty, who's like the bad guy, is like a good cop in the movie.

Just chasing a cool bad guy and catching his hand he's not like as wholesome as he usually is in that thing you do I guess he's still supportive yeah he's an agent he sort of takes advantage yeah yeah but he's not a bad guy you know you wouldn't say he's like an antagonist that's a hell of a

and hey shout out to Tom we got birthdays coming up me and Tom Hanks July 9th really that's your birthday guy number one on the list yeah oj simpson's the other one which sucks yeah i got uh i got biggie me biggie mr t great one so we got oh mr t i was obsessed with mr t back in the day when i was little that was my first ever gamer tag on xbox it was i pity the fool 43 we we've gone through all these marvel recaps all this craziness this entire episode recapping just for that moment where you admitted that your first username was i

pity the fool i used to watch his self-help show where he would like go to like uh teens that were like it was basically the mr t version of scared straight on a and e and i loved it i was like yeah he's fixing people's lives i pity the fool who don't work on themselves. Tell me you have like a picture of you wearing like fake gold necklaces, just like chains upon chains. I don't think I do, but like, I have probably pictures of me with like my Mr. T bobblehead maybe, or like, I used to like draw pictures of Mr. T and stuff. Like I loved Rocky three, loved all that. Mr. t is one of those people all the variants of him if he had come around in 2021 1983 and everywhere in between passing forward

always is a hit always is an absolute smash hit a plus plus plus i want them to bring mr t back in the creed series you did ivan drago's kid why don't you do clubber lang's kid to this day i'm just like what happened to Clubber Lang after he lost to Rocky because I mean the guy was like clearly was a champion would have been number one contender at some point like unless he just like got really down on himself or you know something went wrong personally but like there's no reason that guy shouldn't have just been like just bouncing back it's a rematch like you get a rematch against the champ it would be a fucking split at that point. And you have, like, the amount of money for part three of, you know,

Lang versus Balboa is a fucking smash. They refuse to smash it. What are we doing now? Let's do Rocky VII. Let's do, like, in their old age. Listen, you got to put the dots on their face. Do the Michael Douglas and Ant-Man thing. Let's do it.

Yep. Okay. I think we're giving that one away for free. That one hurt. That was a good one but i'm sure sly's the lone he's he's been thinking of that sly's always thinking um we've got one from mike sullivan he says could you guys see loki sacrificing himself for sylvie and her being the main loki in the mcu moving forward maybe even a name switch to enchantress

as her way of respecting our loki not use his name. I hadn't thought about this, but yeah, maybe. I mean, it's no secret that Black Widow was very much the MCU's way of introducing Natasha's sister and stuff. And we know that as far as Endgame goes, Natasha may not be in the MCU anymore. I mean, she'll probably come back for Secret Wars down the line, but as of right now, Scarlett Johansson's like yeah black widow was like the swan song prequel to kind of give that character her own movie and leave it alone so with that in mind i was like maybe like maybe they're giving the doing like the baton pass to all of the new generations of characters so i now that you brought that up mike i could see that happening that's actually that's a good theory i dig that because like in the marvel you're you're never dead especially if

you're dead that makes you the least dead person out there um and it does do enough where it's not like you're just seeing like come on man i've seen loki die on screen so many times so you're you're you're changing it from you know we love hiddleston he's an awesome actor but if you're keeping that loki around you're keeping the the Asgard connection and everything else, and then whatever you're doing with the future Thor stuff. So if they do that, like, do I think it'll happen? I have no idea. I would be cool if it happened.

Because those people have to be around. I'm sure there's just a way that the stories have to tie together. You need to have those critical parts. Because, again, in the comic books, those guys come back sooner or later, some way, somehow, or they just change the timelines altogether. So with his multiverse and all the other shit to be going on, I feel like we might be getting a bunch of that stuff coming up. So it's a good call. And what a great send-off it would be to give him his own show. It's named after him.

He's the star of it, and he's also the protagonist. He's kind of an antihero where he's the star of it and he's also the protagonist he's kind of an anti-hero where he's saving the day he gets a second chance at life and loki is now not the one losing in the end hopefully he takes down the fucking tva and loki's the one winning this thing oh if he did like that line he's like oh actually i guess it wasn't him it wasn't the tva who was saying to him he's like i'm not gonna die alone or i will do the right thing like again those like pained faces watching renee russo die and watching himself die in end game. Like they did that for a reason. I feel like that's setting us up for his big moment and it would be the perfect send off to Hiddleston.

So yeah, I kind of, I kind of want that to happen now. And the final question from Connor Jennings, he says, do you guys think this show will end up containing itself by the end? Since the time keepers are fake, I feel like some of the gravitas of the tva has been diminished and i wonder if you agree i don't necessarily agree with that because i think now that the timekeepers are fake it's just a matter of like who's the bigger guy who's over their head who's controlled like someone is controlling it all so i still i don't think the gravitas is taken away as far as the show containing itself by the end i would say yes and no i would say a lot of the character arcs are going to be wrapped up but the overall picture of the universe that

was affected in this i think is going to bleed into dr strange is going to bleed into no way home i think is this is the like you said at the beginning of the episode the start of the multiverse right here in loki yeah we're not going back to like a normal world or universe for a very long time in the MCU. I think, you know, when you're just on a plane and you're like, your head is stuffed,

your ears are off and you're just like stuck up there. You're just like, ah, just like, you're just don't feel normal. You're not going to feel normal. I mean, even after you land,

check into the hotel, you got to like basically nap that like flight off. That's going to be like the next six months of the MCU. We're up in the air right now. There's a lot of crazy shit going on. And this is kind of part of it. The only thing I can't figure out is I think there is, like you said,

someone controlling it all. It's going to be Kang. Yeah, it has to be Kang. I just, the two things that are bothering me is one, the, the Tesseract,

the, and the infinity stones in general not working and loki's magic not working i don't understand how none of that stuff works there but i'm sure there will be something to put it all together but again nothing's going to make sense and you just kind of have to just be like it's kind of like when you're up in the air you're just like well this isn't the normal world we're living in right now so this is just kind of where we are so uh yeah i don't know how it's going to all play oh man my brain's starting to melt as i just try to figure it out on the fly i know it's like i'm so eager for the episodes every wednesday but it's also probably

good to give my brain like six days to decompress it feels like when fighters get like the six month um medical suspension after a fight they're like you shouldn't take any blows to the head in six months like give me six days no more blows to the head in six months. Like, give me six days, no more blows to the head from Waldron. The best thing to happen this entire series is that they moved it to Wednesday, so we had to record on Thursday because if we watched this Friday morning and then we had the whole weekend go down, we would basically be speaking in another language by the time we're done with this. We'd be speaking Asgardian.

Absolutely. So for everyone schedule-wise going forward, this is dropping on July 2nd. We've got the penultimate episode dropping on July 9th next week. That's also Friday with the Clancy brothers. I'll be in Las Vegas for that one. I'm going to Las Vegas for the McGregor fight. So, um, the week after that, July 16th, that will be the finale. Now in between Monday, July 11th, we will do a black widow recap podcast black widow it was i thought a really fun installment to the mcu i wouldn't say it was a top tier installment by any means you're not going to leave this going that was one of the best movies in the mcu but if you

dig the mcu like we do where it's like we'll take everything we can get you are going to love black widow it's just a blast start to finish actions. Amazing. I said to Clem, it was like a Marvel movie mixed with a Jason Bourne mission, impossible movie mixed with like a GI Joe movie. There's even some Terminator, like basically T2 Terminator vibes in there. And it really felt like Natasha Black Widow was worthy of her own solo movie, which is something that I wasn't necessarily concerned about going in. But I felt like other people maybe were because they were discounting this one being like, I'm not super excited for Black Widow. We'll get to that when we get to it. It's a movie I feel like you should be excited for.

Like Hopper as Red Guardian was hysterical. He's definitely going to be a new fan favorite. And Florence Pugh as Yelena, her sister, is definitely also going to be a fan favorite. There's an amazing post-credit scene that's going to excite everybody about the future of the MCU. And I honestly just, yeah, I don't really have many bad things to say about it. Also, something to look out for it has take the guardians out of the picture one of my favorite opening title sequences to any marvel movie the opening title sequence is awesome like really really cool a lot of the fight scenes are awesome a lot of the hand-to-hand combat's cool i thought taskmaster had a cool costume cool story arc so yeah i was a big fan

of black widow enjoyed it a lot and you like, it obviously has like the Bourne, Mission Impossible, G.I. Joe stuff, but it does feel like an MCU movie, right? It's not just like a complete, you know, disconnect from it. And then I had asked you, I got Sienna. It was like, I want to go see Black Widow. And you said it's not too gory. And if I think if you watch some of the other Marvel movies and I mean, she's six and a half, but she's, she's used to this stuff.

So I'm not that one. I really think Sienna is going to be fine. Like, yeah, if you have kids, if you're wondering if you could take the kids to it, definitely no more violent or scary than your average Marvel movie. It's right on that baseline. Everyone's in it and it is good.

The score is great. The CGI is pretty cool. The big action sequences are awesome. There's a lot of references to Avengersgers stuff which is awesome because that's awesome place in between civil war and infinity war and like a lot of stuff is referenced with the other avengers and stuff in that so i i really think if you like the mcu if you've been waiting for an mcu movie for a while this will scratch your itch at least until, you know, the huge movies come out later in the year. So this makes me feel better now because I think I've said it

on the podcast before. For some reason, I keep thinking this is like an origin story. So I keep thinking it's like a real throwback. That's one of the best parts of it. Like you get the origin story for maybe 10 minutes of the movie and then you're already on to, okay, this is Natasha right after Civil War. This is the Natasha that we know. And people were saying, where would you rank it movie and then you're already on to okay this is natasha right after civil war this the natasha that we know and people were saying where would you rank it in terms of like your mcu rankings i don't have the whole 20 whatever movie rankings off the top of my head probably put it somewhere in the middle i would compare it in enjoyment value to ant-man doctor strange um i'd probably say i liked it even a little more than Captain Marvel.

So that's what to expect going in, at least if you agree with my opinions a lot of the time. I mean, that's all you can really ask for. And just getting to the goddamn movie theater. I bought tickets. Shout out to my good people at Costco here. A little free plug. $12 for four movie tickets to AMC theaters. That was a Mama Fox staple. She would always buy those for us, tickets to AMC theaters. That was a mom and Fox staple. She would always buy those for us and they were the best.

So I I'm like, I kind of excited just to take Santa out to the movies and actually watch it on the big screen. Would I have done that if it was free on Disney plus? Maybe not, but I was going to have to pay the extra like 30 bucks or whatever it's going to be. I might as well go out to the theater.

I, Oh, it sucks too. Cause they just ended that unlimited popcorn deal which i guess anytime you get a lot of popcorn it's unlimited anyway but i love that amc did that as a way to get us americans back to the movie theater so sounds like a good popcorn movie for you know lack of a better term right totally totally and if you and it's on disney plus for 30 so if you're like you know what i'd like to see it but i don't want to buy myself a 20 movie

ticket and someone else a 20 movie ticket and get concessions and everything. Get it on Disney plus spend the night at home. You'll have a good time with it. And this was something we kind of threw around, like, you know, just on Twitter, but I do think we could one day maybe do a bar.

So with the movies, I think this was, we were talking about this one, but I just think there's so much to it so quickly and it's the summer and no one's doing anything. But if we did something for like a big time Marvel release, maybe like Spider-Man. Whatever the,

even whatever the next one is, I think the next one's Eternals or Shang-Chi is the next one. I would love to do it for even that. It'd be fun. You know, they confirmed that Kevin Feige confirmed this week that in the trailer, that is Abomination and Wong. Everyone was like,

you know, we could tell it's Abomination, but it was the back of a sorcerer. And he was like, Oh no, that was fucking Wong. So it's like, all right, this is going to be awesome awesome um who else who knows who else is in

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