My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 140 - 'LOKI' EPISODE 6 RECAP WITH CLEM, KFC, AND SUPER PRODUCER B‪C

Episode Date: July 16, 2021

Robbie and Clem are joined by the Clancy Variants (KFC and Brendan) once again to recap/discuss the Loki Season 1 finale! Did they get any predictions right?! Did Kang show up?! Was it Miss Minutes all along?! Did Mobius get on his jetski?! Listen and find out! 3Chi: Use code MMB at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com Cuts Clothing: Go to CutsClothing.com/BASEMENT for 15% off the Only Shirt Worth Wearing Subscribe to My Mom's Basement on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeZ96PqdsJYQ7DFLRx6MHw My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement Intro Music: “Basement Noise” by All Time Low Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/basement-noise/1499013757?i=1499013968 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/3Aq9W9BBCjsFOQqcYyO6IA?si=d9d0f74cf54a48deYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement, noise in the basement. Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement. Yeah, yeah. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and the Loki finale edition of My Mom's Basement. We've made it all the way to the end of this show, back by popular demand. We've got the Clancy variants with myself and clem starting off let's just say it right off the bat spoilers for the entire podcast if you didn't watch loki episode 6 do not watch this now that we're here we were right we were basically right

we did it i am going to take a bow because I've called a dog sus that ended up getting killed. I called a bunch of people that were being held hostage by a witch sus. Miss Minute, you sus bitch. I called you. You got long legs, a big smile, and a southern accent. Your sus is fucking my mind. So I'm just going to take my bow now. Great job.

Great job, Clem. I'm going to do the opposite of taking a bow. I'm going to own up to the fact that i was dead wrong because i would have bet the rent well wait are we gonna really spoil spoil everything spoil everything go into anything i would have had to rent that we were not getting a full jonathan majors as kang the conqueror appearance i think we all we were right in the sense that's what we knew was happening but i thought as we said it was going to be a post credits turnaround it was going to be a picture of his boots it was just going to be somebody

names him but i definitely didn't think we were going to get flat out him i definitely didn't think we were going to get it in the first fucking 10 minutes i definitely didn't think it was going to be maybe this is recency bias but like the the best acting scene i think in all of the uh disney plus marvel series is right now i mean i'm not as deep as you guys are in the comics so i don't know what kang is supposed to be like like thanos is like this you know speaks deep and scary and speaks in in these quotes and it's like this menacing guy but but i don't know what kang was supposed to be so i don't know if this is his interpretation or if this menacing guy, but, but I don't know what Kang was supposed to be. So I don't know if this is his interpretation or if this is what comes from

the comics, but this like maniacal comedic laughing yet super powerful. I thought that was unbelievable acting, especially for a comic book movie. That shit was like a 10 or 15 minute scene where like he stole the scene from our two favorites in the series. So I was I was wrong on all that. I mean, that was just goes to show. And as a TV guy, I love like TV is so important now.

And the reason I thought that he wasn't going to make an appearance is because they got to save that for the big screen. That's got to be his big reveal. And it's like, nope, Disney Plus and that 40 minute episode of television just as important as your three-hour epic on on the big screen so a big deal marvel fans and loki fans but a big deal for like tv fans george literally dropped when i was like are they they're really doing this they're really doing this now i mean disney plus is an absolute must have it's a continuation of the movies now, not, and you know, what's weird. If you've seen black widow,

also spoilers for black widow, but the actual real life timeline got screwed up because of COVID. But I think what they, I think Julia Louis-Dreyfus was supposed to debut in the movie. I'm not sure exactly which way it's supposed to go, but it's like now these days, she was in this shit. Wow.

That's awesome. Julia Louis-Dreyfus is in Falcon, the winter soldier and now and she's in black widow and so like now all the big stars are going to be in there and now i mean we're talking about debuting giving scenes it would be like if thanos was just in a tv show before all this you know i mean like it was crazy that they even debuted him in like a end credits thing now you're gonna see the major cast pop up in a in a disney plus show anytime also we need two two disney plus shows per week from now on we need to we need to step it up and no more breaks no more like oh all right in a month we're gonna have the next series rolled out i looked at the time the the like layout and like moon knight shehulk all that stuff coming up i'm like double them up need two per week exactly why they did it

though i you'd love to say that it was you know our guy waldron like wrote this amazing script and screenplay or whatever it is and they knew they needed to have him debut and and jonathan majors wanted to do all that shit it's probably like if we start doing things like this we're gonna get 15.99 from all these motherfuckers they know i'm so curious do you think they told waldron like when he signed on like you have to introduce kang by the end of this that's the end goal of this series or do you think that was like one of his creations yeah have him back on and ask him i need that answer i need to know i i don't understand how any of this stuff happens how how much feige is in control

because he lets people do their thing but he can't just be like Taika Waititi can't just be like I'm going to do the Fantastic Four in my Thor movie. He's just like, well wait you can't just do anything you want. Somebody's got to be doling this out. You can do this, you can do that. That's amazing

to me. That's fascinating. I think we're a little barstool brainwashed because at a company where it's like you're hired just go do whatever you want or something on this magnitude is planned down to the last fucking second they don't you know so but uh me and bob kind of talked about this just over at his desk the other day like i feel like they probably say you know here's the overarching thing here's who your villain has to be you're gonna have access to him for one episode and like you do the rest but i bet it's got to be like hit these points because you know the next series and the next movie depends on it but you know but again they could have done that in a 15 second flash or whatever to get that scene so is he like that

or was that like jonathan majors and waldronors and Waldron's take on this new version of him? Because that was like a brilliant character. Kind of like Riddler-esque or Heath Ledger's Joker-esque in a way. It's like kind of a game to him. And he's laughing. But it's also deathly serious. It's like unpredictable, right? You don't know where he's going.

You can sort of trust him because he's sort of comforting in some ways i don't know if kang is necessarily always like that i don't even know if the kang that we'll eventually see in the mcu is going to be like that but this variant of him i think that he remains nathaniel richards variant is going to be that like strange maybe each kang variant we meet because i assume we're going to meet a couple along the way it seems like the kind of reoccurring villain that could appear in a few different movies i assume that maybe they're each going to get a little more sinister than the last yeah and maybe ramp that up as it goes along which i would love to see either clem is taking a nap

or he's been burned again. Yeah, there it goes. They are so good at this stuff. To me, my impression from Kang, and we were saying this before we got on, I didn't, you know, like I knew of him. I actually knew him as like a fantastic four villain. And he was just, he was like Thanos. He was much more pure evil. At least that's the way I read him as a kid in the comic books. And then don't forget, I stopped reading comic books like 20 years ago.

They've continued to write this stuff. So he may just have a lot more personality than I took off the pages. But they do this so well. They just pick the right actor. They write the right lines. They give him, because even Thanos was so,

people don't realize how weird some of the comic book storylines are, like how Thanos is in love with death. And the MCU just fixes that. And they're just like, let's make this better. Let's make this person. And it's the trend that's been going on with Hollywood in general, where like antiheroes, you like make them sympathize. You kind of make them like them, even though they're really bad.

And Majors is just crushing that with. I thought it was amazing. I said on Twitter, gave it a 15 out of 10 some people were pushing back i'm like if you don't like this like let me explain it to you like i don't know i don't know if you're missing something but but that was it was so good so good and it was like what we wanted out of the wandavision finale the whole season we were like oh my god they got to be building up to this big villain reveal, this big Mephisto thing. And we all wanted it, and then we got a CGI fight at the end.

This time we just got exposition, explanations, answers, questions that were brought up that we didn't even know were gonna be there. An amazing performance. This was everything I could have wanted out of a finale. Especially knowing that season two is on its way, we're going to have answers going forward there the only thing it was missing was mobius on a jet ski which you know those fuckers are going to make us wait for that that'll be the new avengers assemble we'll get to like hear it in one movie and not see it and then it'll be in 10 years we finally see it and we're all weeping in the theater as it happens let's get right into it let's talk about three chief first the leader in delta 8 THC.

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So go use promo code MMB. You'll get 5% off. Now let's get right into this episode. You knew it was starting off with a massive massive tone by the intro we had that old timey song from endgame we had all the lines from the mcu's history we even got some fucking nelson mandela lines if you had the closed captioning on uh that greta thunberg girl i think that's how you say her last name um this is why teen closed caption is always a thing like i wouldn't have known like you know greta van thunberg said like you have to stop them or something i would have no idea i probably wouldn't have known, like, you know, Greta Van Thunberg said,

like you have to stop them or something. I would have no idea. I probably wouldn't have been known Nelson Mandela's voice. I would have known any of that for a split second when it was all of the Marvel voices. I thought, I thought I was losing my mind. I was like,

have they always done this? I just never noticed. When they went into all that, it was very fitting for, as they were showing the heroes. Yeah. Like it could have been like a new Marvel intro. If they did that. Well, it was very fitting for, as they were showing the heroes, yeah, it could have been like a new Marvel intro. If they did that going forward, it would kind of fit.

But they show there's a timeline. It kind of looks like a circular bifrost around this citadel that we saw from the last episode. And the door creepily opens as Loki and Sylvie walk up to it. It's black, and it has this gold crackle effect throughout the whole thing very dope looking effect and that sus bitch opens the episode off miss minutes appears like a horror movie and they have even like almost like the sound effect of that when the knife stabs in psycho

like the really high-pitched shrieking miss minutes shows up she says he who remains is very impressed with them for making it this far and he wants to propose a deal he'll allow them both to exist together on the same timeline loki can win the battle of new york he can kill thanos he can get the infinity stones sylvie has a much lower bar she's like i could just give you a couple happy memories you'll be fucking good with that and they turn it down they're like that's fiction there's no way that's real yeah for real like give me all the happy memories in the world you take the embarrassing moments out of my life that would probably be like it's almost like an ignorance is bliss thing and you're just like oh i'm the happiest person in the world but obviously a very horror-esque intro which i was happy to see

knowing that the multiverse of madness is still being teased as mcu's scariest movie so we're kind of inching towards that realm i felt bad for sylvie because she's like i've been waiting my whole life for this moment and she doesn't even get to open the door she's with like a stranger she just met like earlier that week and then it's just like she's just like up and then miss minnick gives her the shittiest fucking it's like um what's that let's make a deal is that the way in brady show yeah it's like all right loki you get the or no even better price is right showcase loki gets like the trip to hawaii the brand new car and the fucking camper and she just gets like a trip to you know new york city and your room set a lawnmower yeah dining room set like that was always the worst i was like it's terrible terrible

it's all like some of the stuff that they consider a prize i'm like whoa it's just like a burden on me now. This is terrible. How am I getting this dining room set in? Do I got to hire movers? Do you guys hire the movers? What's going on here? What am I going to do with this bit of bagel?

I don't know. These things are ridiculous. Mobius would love winning that, Jeffy. Can I get a poll here? Is mentioning that Miss Minutes is in an episode of Loki a spoiler? I saw that. You really dealt with the spoiler police on that one. It's tough because I understand both sides.

Your side, you didn't put out a spoiler. You just said Miss Minutes made an appearance at the end of time. Like, no duh. We knew Miss Minutes was going to be in the final Loki episode. But the nerds are on high alert finale day the day a movie releases and they're like if you say anything their brain jumps to what they think is going to happen and they're like that must be a spoiler like i got some people telling me i must have spoiled black widow based on me saying that i really liked yelena and red guardian they were like that must mean that

natasha's mom dies you didn't say you liked her. I was like, God. It's like, if you're just going to be an idiot, you're not doing something. Yeah, I can't control what you're just going to pretend is happening. And if those people had assumed now that Miss Minutes, I guess, is the big bad, I guess that's what they jumped to that conclusion. It's like, well, that's wrong. So, thus, it's not a spoiler. That's an even better thing. It's like a mis, that's wrong. So it's not a spoiler. That's an even better thing. It's like a misdirection for you.

And then when you watch the episode, you're like, oh, my God. Miss Minutes continues being sus in this episode, though. She goes back to Ravonna at the TVA. She gives her the fake files, not the files she asked for. And she's like, hey, I didn't want these ones. And she says, he who remains thought they would be more useful. Happy reading. So you got to assume by where she ends up at the end of this episode that that must have been kang giving some kind of direction to him some kind of

map some kind of here's how you get to me right big time rent slayer's his right hand girl so he's gonna keep her around and whatever variant of him he wants his variant and like i can't even like try to figure out timelines and multiversities but he wants to have dren slayer as his girl whenever this shit hits the fan which is just it now wait so this is what i got confused by unless it's just miss minutes kind of lying or just just talking when she's like he's very impressed with how far you come but technically he like saw that and knew all that was going to happen no so it's not like ah fuck these two actually like tamed uh alioth and got to me when i've been hiding all these years right or is it like he knew like was he actually impressed and was he

actually like fuck now i gotta come up with an idea here or as you said i've got all the script i knew this was happening it's a good question i don. I don't know if we know the answer to that. I don't know if we know it from the details of this episode. He certainly could be lying. He could be a little impressed with. He said he just paved the way and they walked down. I don't know. I don't know.

Did he ever actually give them free will with the choice between A and B? I feel like they're're gonna expand upon that a ton in season two the whole free will talk that came apart in this episode specifically i was like okay and i even saw a breakdown where they said the debate that sylvie and loki have at the end is like democracy versus dictatorship debate like are gonna fly i'm waiting for some sort of consent think piece about marvel like well free will implies that these these people are not consenting to blah blah blah oh god but i know i feel like uh all of that had to be like i'm gonna present them with this choice

knowing that they're gonna clash which will lead to loki getting sent over here and she or is it like you know because even he does say at that one point i was wrong now i don't know where we're going right and i but is that part of it as well is it is it is it you know when they came up when he went through 14 million scenarios and came up with the one in the avengers or is this you know because when they cross the threshold and he's a little bit like oh fuck i wonder at that point if we really were just like anything can happen or if it's all part of his plan or destiny or fate this is where i'm just so impressed with how they do it and and you have to just trust

in the future that they will continue to make these really complicated crazy storylines somewhat digestible yeah there'll be a few gaps you have to fill in but blending in like he who remains is a separate character in the comic books and it's very complicated and he's actually a mobius that's aged he's like the last mobius to survive and they just are like okay that's it's kind of the same thing here it's it's the one person at the end who will make sense of it all i i took it as like he wasn't literally impressed with this right now he knew this moment was coming but he was kind of like overall impressed that that that that they are the destined ones and then i took it like on faith that it was true that

that we came to like an expiration point where he wouldn't know what's going to go past it's kind of like the ancient one in dr strange that happened to where she could foresee everything because she had the time stone until a certain point because that's when she dies but uh you know all this stuff is is super complicated in the comic books there's the living tribunal and there's infinity as like a character there's eternity as a character and they just boil all this stuff down i think they said didn't they say that um i think the living tribunal was supposed to be in end game like thanos was supposed to be judged and they're like it's it's too much like we can't do that so they

take all these really complicated confusing things and boil it i mean and nothing more than like a multiversal war like i don't understand how we're gonna understand that but i really i just continue to like i think they'll find figure it out they'll find a way to make it understandable he's like the smartest guy who can dumb it down you know it's like we're gonna make this easy for the dummies i was i was wondering how much he makes because i think he's the most important person in hollywood in america yeah yeah there's the world like maybe not like he's like the most powerful or the most important or the most, like, his decisions on how to execute this is, you know. He's he who remains, but for Marvel.

I was going to say, the fate of Disney must be for the universe here. Maybe Kevin Feige's, like, from another dimension, another universe, and he knows how to do all this. I don't know if this shit's true, you like celebrity net worth and wealth genius but i'm reading here that his salary went from 5 million to 50 million annually that's what i don't think that's enough when he got the keys in march 2007 he was named president of the production for marvel a few years later he became a member of the producers guild of america and then thanks to those important titles his annual salary jumped of the production for Marvel. A few years later, he became a member of the Producers Guild of America. And then thanks to those important titles, his annual salary jumped from five to 50.

And you're right. I mean, like when you're talking about billions, like all of these make a billion, like instantly, right? I'm not sure there's a lot of execs that can actually like get anybody to take their phone call. But I think Feige right now is the most powerful man in America in that like absolutely everyone would pick up the phone. every single you could call like a soccer star in europe he

could call you know anybody he calls again a lot of people there are probably a decent amount of people who pick up the phone but right now even if you don't like that stuff you're like well i mean this is a i mean here's the perfect example brendan there's rumors that megan the stallion has been cast as herself in she hulk and she's going to be a recurring character as herself in she hulk the tv show that's a rumor right now listen justin feige he'll make it work i don't know but really like it's funny that the most like important thing is is just making it digestible. You know what I mean?

Because if you weren't following this to the letter of the law, I don't think – I'm a good example of I'm into it, knew it when I was a kid. But if you really were going into deep right now, I'd probably be like, I don't know. Well, you mentioned last week, Kevin, the time travel scene in Endgame is broken down really well. In even Loki, you have the minute scene in the beginning doing the whole like here's the the dogma of it all and then in this scene where we get the he who remains version of what really happened through his little like cool morphing figures yeah there was like claymation yeah it was very cool and he tells them i know everything that's happening he has the script and he says you can't kill me because i already know they're like it's the tempad he's like nope and then he makes them an offer he's like i would like you guys to take over for me i'm old i'm tired and they're like listen if you're so afraid of life

without the tva like what is it you're so afraid of and he answers me he says if you think i'm bad you should meet my variants a lot of eerie lines a lot of great score cues behind it where it just seems like fucking scary you get a chill sent up your spine you're like oh fuck someone's coming and that's like a big line and they ask who are you he shows that there was a variant that lived in the 31st century i think this was the nathaniel richards variant he discovered multiple universes and then some versions of himself wanted to rule they attacked each other they created a multiversal war and he harnessed the power of elias to swallow all of these universes just a badass story condensed into a little thing

back at the tva we also learned that ravona used to be a school teacher we learned this through b15 and mobius's plan where they're taking TVA agents to where she taught at a high school or a middle school or something like that in Ohio. And they're introducing them to the Ravonna variant that is not going to recognize them, the TVA, none of that. And she's stunned by this. Mobius walks in with the perjured stick, whatever you call it. And she disarms him immediately. Tells him she's in search of free will. Yep, you're right.

Get it again. Yep. Yeah. He just got owned right there. She says only one person gets free will, the one in charge. And then she says she's in search of free will. Gotta be meaning she's in search of the one in charge, a.k.a. Kang. Season two.

These guys are going to get it on. Where does Kang rank on your sus list right now? I mean, Kang is all he is. He's everything. He's the sus list. He's not the sus list. He's basically. I was like Loki.

I felt like he was telling the truth. I was like Loki. I felt like he was telling the truth and was trustworthy. Like, not trustworthy because he's like a supervillain. He's trustworthy. I agree, though. I don't know if it was because he was such a great actor, but by the time he was like, oh, we just crossed the threshold. When he was like, I'm being candid. I was like, I believe you, man. I do.

It's half-baked, the guy on the couch. I believe him, yo. I don't know why. I think that he's, you know, his idea of like, it's like anything else with Thanos and a lot of these things that are kind of rooted in, like, this is bad, but the alternative is worse. And I had to stop the war by doing some fucked up things,

but trust me, it's better this way i think i believe him and i and i feel like sylvie was like being an idiot but maybe it's the total opposite so i feel like kang is sus that very i didn't even consider bob that he might be like a different character like he might act totally different in season two or in the movie because because think about the loki variants how different the loki variants yeah i mean and so he there could be one i mean in sometimes they might cast a different person i know i know that he will be kang for ant-man but just be another guy another girl exactly we got sylvia and loki at this point the doors are open for that do Do you believe, Clem, that he...

Like, what he was saying, though? Now you're done fucked up. I was the same as you. I was like, that was my note. Do you guys believe him? Because I didn't know to believe him. And then I'm getting mad at Sylvie for not trusting Loki, and I'm like, it's fucking Loki. Of course you don't trust Loki. It was a complete mind-boggling.

That was what I thought was so fun about that scene. That's what I love, so fun about that scene. And that's what I love is because you never know. You still don't truly know. And I think in the end he was telling the truth. Now he might have been leading them away because he wanted them to go that way. But it was a complete mindfuck. And Bob and I, and not to spoil Black Widow, but Bob and I,

that was the thing we disliked about it was the ending. There was like, they could have just, it was just bad action. It was bad boss fights. And then they never explained what happened. I could have just, a 20-minute discussion, I would have been happy with that. Like, that's what this shit is about. You read comic books. It's not like I see action in comic books, and I walk away happy, right?

So, I loved that scene, and it was complete mindfuck the entire time. And like, the little, and I don't know if this is like, if this is actual, like, people just digging,, but like he's eating an apple. You have a guy and a girl. It's like Adam and Eve kind of shit, right? When he ate the apple for the second time, and I'm too dumb to have made the Adam and Eve connection.

I should have the second, like that was, that was overt. I was like, he's eating, he has another apple. Like what? To hit you over the head. And I was too dumb to put it together but that does kind of make some sense and oh wait yeah that makes total sense right because eve was the one who fucked everything up by eating the apple and by you know going with the temptation so she was thinking on like her own selfish actions whereas loki and he got he called himself the

devil in this episode right oh man i i'm I'm disappointed in myself for not getting that, like, very, I think, very blatant symbol. They're all hanging some temptations right in front of their face. He said, you can take over for me. I'm tired and old. You know, never expected two of the same person to show up. And they set it up perfectly for them, for their fight to make sense. Because you could see why Sylvie would be like, oh, Loki wants the fucking throne. He wants to rule all of time again. No doubt sylvie says what he did was personal he's like listen it was

practical not personal she's like it was personal to me and this is maybe my favorite he who remains line of the episode he's like grow up sylvie grow up murder you hypocrite and he just like lays on her in almost a barstool-esque way i could imagine that conversation happening on barstool radio on sirius and i was just like oh fuck he's fucking right he's like listen we're all villains here we all did horrific stuff we're doing it for the right reasons now like just grow up and i did think like sylvia is kind of a fucking hypocrite she was killing tva agents at the tva these these are people that were just variants if she knew that i mean that does kind of make her a hypocrite like sylvie is is fighting for like free will but she's fighting like for herself you know she's she's like a revenge this is uh you know i you took away my sylvie revenge tour yeah all

right i mean and so and then i don't know it like loki seems to be thinking about the greater good for the first time but i also think that maybe he's a little bit a little bit whipped almost in the moment like he's being clouded a little bit by romance like you know that might play into it because for the first time he's had some like a female affection in his life so is that clouding him like is he gonna get her initial tattooed on his finger or something thinking Clearly when there's some love involved. Yeah. Scott and Sylvie.

But, but so it's like, everybody's, you can't trust everybody's us. It's just, the show should just be called. Everybody's sus. Everybody's sus.

At this point, we hear a vibration. We hear something going on outside he who remains is like uh all right he's like i just fibbed i knew everything that was going to happen until this point we just crossed the threshold now i don't know what's happening you could even see outside the window the timeline did start to branch off at this point a little bit and he says you could take over my work continues or you can kill me right here and infinite bees will start another multiversal war and i end up here again so there's really nothing

for me to worry about here i'm not scared of anything loki's like i think he's telling the truth this is fucking nuts i can't believe we're the ones in this position loki seems like he's like me having an anxiety attack i could relate to him at this point and sylvie's like fuck it let's kill him i hate this guy and they get into this big fight in the point. And Sylvie's like, fuck it. Let's kill him. I hate this guy. And they get into this big fight in the middle of this. Uh, it's like not even a throne room. It's like this office, which makes it even cooler.

And he's just watching the whole thing, kind of like being overjoyed by uncertainty, just not knowing what's going to happen for the first time in his life. He was Michael Jackson popcorn gift. He was just, he wasn't in the fight scene. It was probably the coolest we got in the series. I think like choreography wise.

No, it's cool. If you go back and watch like low keys, like never on the offensive, like he, you know, he was just like blocking. He didn't want to kill her.

Didn't want to fight. And if you watch that, the actual like motions and whatever the sword, he really does. He's not trying to armor at all. It's cool. Jonathan majors. He's basically us who we were like ourselves entertained in the beginning of the pandemic,

watching old Bulls highlights that are like 20, 30 years old. And then sports came back. We're like, oh, my God, Korean baseball. We don't know what's going to happen. We were all Kang. Who remains? He's Kang. Can we just call him Kang?

Kang! It's Kang! It's Kang! They never say it, right? They never say it. No, they say, he says he i've been known as many names and then he says the conqueror at which point i was you know the fucking oh my god i fucking hit the nail but eventually she gets free of loki she runs up to kang with the sword and she

goes to stab him loki warps in front of it and he's like listen stop it i don't want the throne i just want you to be okay oh as a romantic oh cute line look she kisses him don't forget this guy is like two weeks away from trying to blow up all of new york city yes oh yeah like that was not that long ago yeah he's literally and now he's got a crush on a girl yeah he was making 9-11 look like a fucking walk in the park. Yeah, but you know what? He's got a crush on himself. After all that, if he could fall in love with anyone, it's gotta be himself. No, it's the power of

the pussy. You can turn him from like a war god to like, I just want to be happy with you in the park. Tell you what, that's what enchanting really means. He's enchanted. Yeah. If Loki Tell you what, that's what enchanting really means. He's enchanted. If Loki just had a moment to just go crank one out,

the whole fucking time, get back to conquering the planet, or the whole universe, or the whole timeline. She kisses him, she says, I'm not you, and she throws him into a portal behind him. Kind of a fucking move that we predicted. We said, do you think think that she's gonna stab him in the back at the end of this loki's can't trust loki's love is a dagger kind of a solo-esque thing right and she did it she then stabs kang she said he's like uh she goes are you gonna beg for your life he's like oh i could i thought it was so cool it was

like uh uh if if somehow there was ever real life happening, like you would just, you know, there would be. It was quick. Yeah, it wasn't a monologue. Yeah, it was boom. And as he's dying, he just looks at her with a smile and he says, I'll see you soon. That was creepy. Anybody who didn't like this finale, I don't think I've seen anybody say that yet. But if you didn't, then like this isn't i don't think i've seen anybody say that yet but if you didn't

uh then like this isn't for you you know what i mean this is it was a little bit of a cheat code because but because doing that big reveal it was going to be a home run no matter what but the acting and the storyline and the ending it's it's i mean that was i mean they had a conversation just a 20 minute conversation that kept everyone on the edge of our seats the entire episode yes pretty impressive not acting i'm all about jonathan majors man i watched him a little bit in lovecraft uh what's called lovecraft country lovecraft country yeah that's the only thing i really have seen him from but man i'm hoping you fucking blew my mind clearly i keep referencing it if that's not who he is like for the rest of his time with marvel marvel i'm gonna be i'd be surprised just from a like a storytelling standpoint if they did that they certainly can do that that makes sense if he's just like a vicious marauder but one like i mean

he showed it with the acting chops that he can pull that off and that's just a better i think that's like a better character the same way they like humanized thanos for them to give him this like more cerebral kind of thing. That's definitely what I thought of him as a comic books, like a ruthless conqueror. And I'm sure there will be like one variant like that. And maybe he'll play that at the end where he's got the statue of him. Yeah.

Right. I'm anticipating that being like a dictator. Yeah. And maybe he'll just, you know, play that role too. The outfit he's wearing under the like face, he's not wearing the helmet obviously, but the outfit he's wearing under the like face he's not wearing the helmet obviously but the outfit he's wearing is like kang the conqueror robes yeah right that's

shit right so that is where loki got sent to he wakes up in the tva and he runs to mobius to tell him what happened mobius doesn't even recognize him he's like you're you work in accounting right like what's your name who are you if you watch it back i have laughed i've watched the episode three times i've laughed every single time now at when he first shouts out to like we can't do it it's all messed up owen wilson's delivery of what is so funny just like why the fuck is this co-worker shouting at me right now oh my god that makes me laugh if you were to think about yeah i gotta go back and rewatch it too, because he's so out of control. And like, imagine if that happened.

Imagine if somebody ran in your building at work, it was screaming like that. He's looking at him like a crazy guy. He's like, what are you, what's your name, dude? And Loki looks up, he sees what we think is the statue of Kang the Conqueror in place of where the timekeeper statues were all season. And in the post-credit scene, we just get a stamp that says, Loki will return in season two. They just

gave us a little crumb in the post-credit scene. They didn't give us a lot because they blew their load all over our face, neck, and chest in the whole episode. Jeez, Bob! Jesus Christ, this is a GFC radio episode. Yep, it's a GFC radio episode. Man, shit. Bob gotFC Radio. Yep, it was the KFC Radio episode. Man, shit.

Bob got the job from coming, though. Or not coming, I guess. You know what? There's some fucking variant where Bob Fox was like, here's my resume and I made these t-shirts and Dave gave him the full-time job. But in this version, he had to hold his

come-in for 19 days. That was my Nexus event, yeah. I'll get this one for you. I know that WandaVision was a one-off, but I didn't even consider that there wasn't going to be a season two. I don't know. Maybe I was just too excited and loved it so much. But that, I guess, was a big deal for most people in the post-credits.

But I was kind of like, oh, I thought that was going to happen anyway. I thought it was announced. I was very, very heavily rumored. Yeah. Okay. So then, yeah,

I thought I was hoping for maybe a little bit more. I wanted a Kang, Kang post credits. I want to see some more of that. Or like Ravonna, like going through a portal and like seeing she's somewhere else, even that would have been sort of cool. Yeah.

But I mean, we got so much in the episode have been sort of cool. Yeah. But I mean, we got so much in the episode that I can't complain. Yeah. I'm going to complain. I fucking, I am Pavlov's dog. I was expecting a goddamn post-credits scene and I I've done it. They give it to him every time.

And this was such a big moment. And granted, they didn't do it at the end of end game, but that was the end of like the phase. I like went there and I'm like, what the fuck? And I missed, I, cause I also missed the season two reveal. Cause I was fast forwarding waiting of like the phase. I like went there and I'm like, what the fuck? And I missed, I,

cause I, I also missed the season two reveal. Cause I was fast forwarding waiting for like a scene. And I missed it. That was kind of in the credits. It looked like the credits. Yeah. It was just like the paper. Yeah.

I see what you mean. Even if they just threw something in, like, like it's like a Hawkeye thing. You're like, I need my post credit thing. I just, I need it.

I don't care what it's really even about. I just need something. But you know what? I didn't realize. Here's five minutes of. I just need something. But you know what I didn't realize? Here's five minutes of what if. I'd be in for that. I'm in for every single what if recap you want to do.

Come on, do what if? Hell yeah. What if comics were my favorite? That's just like what we do, right? You're like, you know, when you're a little kid, you're having like a sleepover and you're in bunk beds and you're like, well, what if Wolverine fought Captain America? You know, that's just like what I love. Before Barstool Sports, that's like Treehouse Comics.

Like, what do you talk about in the Treehouse? Yes. Kevin, I'll go one further. I was thinking we should do a what if Barstool version. What if Neil stays in Chicago? What if Barstool LA survives? What if Big Cat starts as a you know different city or something like there's all these different stupid ass shit we could talk about

goes through because the guy doesn't fuck up filing and and we actually get to it for 100 might not i mean we should do that we should do every week we'll do a recap we'll also do a real life what if i love those man if you can animate what ifs for us, we want to write a different what if scenario every week of that show, and we'll put out a little minute-long what if at the end of every episode. By the way, just quick departure from Marvel. What if James Gandolfini was in The Office? Oh, all time. I know.

That was crazy. Crazy. And I think it was a smart move by HBO because it did, you know, it did kind of keep him as that guy. Like it was kind of worth it. Although, was HBO just going to do that forever if he didn't die? How long would that have lasted? You're just never allowed to work again because we just keep paying you. That's a good KFC Radio hypothetical.

Like how much money would it take for you to not do anything else? Where you just, you know, like, and it's not three million dollars a year but if it was just like you know some people would get paid fifty thousand dollars a year but you can never do anything you know you have to lose all sorts of other like you know sign me up but as far as loki man i can't think of a single criticism like my favorite marvel show out of the three honestly by far it was my favorite marvel show shout out to michael waldron our guy shout out to kate heron was my favorite Marvel show shout out to Michael Waldron our guy shout out to Kate Herron the director of it and shout out to Natalie Holt who did

the music for it I've been shouting out the music give her a Star Wars movie that news music it felt familiar in a sense I was like does this sound like something but it was like it was just perfect I don't even know how to describe it was ominous and suspenseful but just like cool music at the same time.

Elevated that shit to a whole other level. The only. Oh, did we lose you? He was about to criticize it. So I pruned him. He was about to criticize it. I said,

get out of here. I thought I was actually going to give WandaVision the edge, but it was going to be close but that last episode i mean it was just everything was the super payoff i mean i i liked them both and i really liked it but i did not say that i didn't think that loki was like far and away out ahead but i thought we were going to get a similar ending where you weren't going to feel super satisfied and then they just i mean they flipped everything but you know one thing at one point i just want to make that i thought was when kev was talking about the

end of the the tva so think about how different that that timeline must really be because for owen wilson to not even recognize a major loki that must mean that that whole thing is super like super different like obviously it's different like there's no time keepers there's just kang but he doesn't even recognize him and unless of course like you know who's sus and who's not who's lying who's not but i'm imagining that owen wilson does not even recognize i guess the owen wilson character that mobius could be very different it doesn't have to be loki's very different but like you know he's still a mobius who's in charge of timelines and he doesn't even recognize a major loki so it's like i don't know i just thought i was like oh i get it he doesn't recognize him

but then i'm like no wait a minute this is the guy who's supposed to recognize everybody yeah everything's fucked up it's all it's all flipped it's i just thought about it on the personal level right but he's he's supposed to be at the end of time and he's supposed to know classic loki and black loki and alligator loki and he's supposed to be at the end of time and he's supposed to know classic loki and black loki and alligator loki and he's supposed to know all that stuff and he doesn't even know like you know one of the main i mean i guess there's like a billion variants but you know he he shouldn't think that he's like from accounting you know yeah and that's what that's that's the thing to get most like everyone we're gonna walk away from this episode and this podcast

we're gonna be like man the next phase is all set up. But the coolest thing is that in season two, we just go back to this world. And we're going to, like, we still don't know how variants get plucked and, like, their minds wiped and all that kind of stuff. There's a lot of that, like, micro shit for just the show, let alone the macro shit of all phase, what is it, five now at this point? Which this was the weirdest thing, F. So I was watching, I'll, like, go on YouTube and the algorithm will give me endgame reactions. And I'll watch them or I'll watch like the scene. Like the other day, Thor goes in Wakanda.

Just happened to be on TV as I was flipping around. Watch that. This was the first. After I watched that Loki episode, I watched. It had like another one of the reactions for endgame. And it was like that was a previous phase. Because this has now. I think we've officially jumped to

the next phase knowing the villain knowing there's a million kings coming our way like in the words of kevin carnett anything is possible we got a million different kings coming we got you know the spider-mans are going to be all fucking with each other we have all these potential you know potential x-men fantastic four variants of guys we know of different characters and all that stuff there's so many different ways to go and i was like oh shit there's so much to worry about here i can't even think about my guy thanos i appreciated the little nod they gave about saying they could beat thanos and stuff like that in the miss minute was throwing that out but this was the first time i officially felt like we're moving forward in the mcu and that was that was a pretty cool thing i haven't go back and

gone back to check but i heard chatter People were saying that they thought in the beginning one of the sound bites was from X-Men. Like one of the quotes. And I don't know if that's confirmed. And I feel like that would be going a little bit more viral right now. But I wonder if they just like snuck it in there. A little like Wolverine's claws coming out. Yeah, maybe it was something. It was sort of just somebody going, I have to go they they were saying themselves i

have to go back and watch but i think one of the the bites was from x-men which would just be like i'm a hawk right now brendan don't give me hope now that's all the reality last time he was on god damn it now that alternate realities and time is in play they could now introduce like young x-men and also bring in hugh jackman like because it's like you know obviously like toby mcguire and tom holland aren't the same age so it's like you could you could be introducing young mutants and explain why mutants haven't existed. You could be introducing fantastic four, but then also have the timeline where the fantastic four just come the traditional way where they're going to space.

So, I mean, everything is like, there's all these variables, there's all these variants, but I mean, it's so fucking cool. I don't know if Waldron would even like this was his influence,

but when the timelines were all branching out and he knew we were fucked i got major containment unit vibes from ghostbusters when it's going and then the spirits blow through the top and you're like and then that haunting music plays and i was just like oh fuck like anxiety like it was real i was like oh my god look how many fucking timelines there are how are are they going to do? Can you imagine being Sylvie right now? Like, if you ever get a virus on your parents' computer, you're like, I downloaded some porn on LimeWire, and that was

me. Like, the dread you feel? She just fucked up the entire multiverse, universe, whatever you want to call it. Like, does Loki feel bad because she's technically a Loki, or is he like, no, that's a Sylvie. I am a Loki right here. He's going to try to distance himself now. Yeah, I tried to do the right thing here.

I kissed her and I was trying to, you know, get some loving and save the universe. But can we all come to one agreement? Loki Gator does not fuck that up. Loki Gator does the right thing. Every time. Ten times out of ten, Loki Gator makes the right move. He has the best morals. By the way, they're trying to make it hashtag alligator loki

it's loki gator it's loki gator exactly like if you do hashtag alligator loki you get the the image like i think waldron and company trying to make it be that i'm like you chose poorly it's loki gator i like loki gator not too late go get you know we can we can change that that's my only critique. Before I got cut off, I was thinking, what could I do differently? I mean, I had said I wanted it to, not even, it's not even a critique. It's just, I thought it was going to be more real life things that he was doing. I would like, I would just like them to continue that.

I want to see more libraries of Alexandria, Philadelphia experiment. If you could do you could do some shit like that so that's not even like a critique it's just more what i want i want more of that but like i got nothing i think it was perfect maybe even yeah which was eight episodes instead of six like it was a little bit short um otherwise i'm just trying to think of things that i would like i could so i'm just not fanboying over it but i just got nothing i think it was like they are such tiny things too that you could think of which is pretty a good sign for the show yeah do you have a final sus list for us fucking is everyone sus is it like the sus list like the the timeline at this point where it's just like yeah it extends to everyone can you like yeah like can you trust mobius or interest mobius like he's he could be like working for kang the conqueror like one mobius like the mobius that is searching for

loki on the tva normal timeline if that still exists i think we saw him in b15 at the end but like you trust tom loki yeah i do yeah i do you but you dumb you do but you're dumb because two minutes ago he was the ultimate villain. You know, he was not the ultimate villain, like not Thanos level, but, you know, he was a villain that couldn't be trusted. And we got played in a matter of six episodes, in a matter of about six hours. You can't trust him in that, like he could side with like maybe the bad, like the Conqueror Kang variant. But I think it's sort of like one of those things where it's like when there's a greater evil this is like you know a traditional marvel storyline

where like the good guys and the bad guys have to team up because there's like a bigger bad guy because he even he is like i want to like rule over the world i don't want all the time to be fucked up like that that's a big problem the fact that he gave up the chance to blow up Thanos, right? He could have been that dude. That's what John Wick Kang was offering him, right? To give that up. He just wants Sylvie to be okay. What a pussy!

Come on, that was nice. The fact that he did go at Thanos in Endgame, that does show that he had made the transformation and he watched a highlight reel of his life. Yeah, think that was a change. But that's exactly it. You want to talk about pre-crime? This guy's been wearing a tie this entire

fucking week. That is some shit, man. You can transform into anything. Sweats in a hoodie. Throw on the fucking Moon Man shit right there. You know what he should be wearing? His armpits? That know what he should be wearing? His armpits? That's what he manifested?

He should manifest himself some Cuts clothing. Cuts clothing is the only shirt worth wearing. That's why I was wearing it at the UFC press conference, where I asked Conor McGregor a question. I would ask, hey, Conor McGregor, did you let your kids stay up to watch Loki? He would say, nope, no

Loki for the kiddos. I was wearing my cuts anyway. I got all the tweets about it. Oh, where'd you get that shirt, that green shirt? Oh, were you wearing green for Connor? I was, and I got it from Cuts Clothing. If you go to cutsclothing.com right now slash basement, you will get 15% off the only shirt worth wearing,

cutsclothing.com slash basement. For the record, Bob, i just wanted to say this last episode i'm gonna say it again you threw a fucking alley-oop to connor and he just didn't fucking dunk i know lay it up he just fucking boned it like you should like i was like i'm like oh here we go baby and maybe he didn't realize it was you because maybe he's just thinking it's just a random question but if i was like oh that's my boy he's asking me a question like i get to be real connor drive up the fucking pay-per-view buys by saying something crazy about my kids seeing violence and anyone who fucking was like pissed at that i'm like that was a good fucking question that could have been a good moment

and connor not the first time he's coming shortly let's call it what it is like if he's losing it that's when i should have bet the rent on poor yet because he clearly was off his game that was his chance to be like well i can all about that there's too much blood for the kiddos it's just too dangerous I'm gonna kill him like that's what I was trying to do obviously obviously very obviously as we were trying to do I can't believe people didn't see that how about him just cruising around town on his scooter man just like I love that you imagine seeing him in that little grocery store scooter like around town funny he's like he's filming, and he's checking his rear view. He's making sure he's being hit.

It's just such a funny scene. I don't like the excuse-making, though. Can't do it. It should have been – they should have sprinkled it out there. Well, I guess you can't because then Poirier takes advantage of it. But if there was some mention of it and then it happened, then we'd all believe him. But right now, it just kind of sounds like excuse making. That sounds like excuse making.

At the same time, I'm going to not focus on the excuses. I'm going to move forward and say bionic leg Conor McGregor is going to be a force to be reckoned with. When he kicks you with that bionic leg, oh, my God, he said it's unbreakable. He said he can't break it. What if you had like a titanium elbow? Wow. That's like a foreign weapon. Let's get him a titanium elbow? Wow! That's a foreign weapon. Let's get him a titanium elbow, too.

Let's do it all. Let's make him the bionic man. We can rebuild him. Let's just make him into a super soldier, Conor McGregor. And he can fight for the next hundred years. That could be a Kang. That's the thing, Kev. I don't know if you understand this. I could be completely wrong. But I feel like we're going to get a Kang that's's like a nice guy a king that's like a fucking super

brilliant scientist a ruthless motherfucker we could get conor mcgregor as a kang who's just out of middle imagine there's a variant and a universe out there where clem is just a motherfucker there's a i know like that's why he likes likes Thanos and has such a fandom with the big purple guy Zola Fron there's a Clem out there who's a Jets Yankees fan Cabagool 27 rings

I still say 27 rings unironically Shane it's just yeah they did such a good job with all the different types of each of these characters. And it just goes to show how if you can write well, you can change things like so quick. You know, like if you just know the right words in a dialogue, you guys ever see Promising Young Woman? Oh, yeah.

So like the way that they just made Bo Burnham look like a cool, nice guy because they just knew how to script it. And that just shows like if you're a guy and you know the right words to say to girls, they're going to love you. And they know how to make this guy look like a douchebag even though it was McLovin. And they know how this guy had to make him look cool. And it's just the power of dialogue and like the way you set these things up. You can turn Loki into a guy that you trust. I mean we're all fools for trusting Loki. But in a matter of five, six episodes, they can do that.

So just ultra shout out, biggest shout out possible to Waldron and company, like almost doing the impossible and doing it quickly and tight and entertaining. And like, give me season two, give me season 10. The excitement that they built up from this is crazy. That also is the first one. I really think if you just played that, like a four-hour movie, I think it would just flow. It really was just one giant movie chopped up into the exact perfect spots. But just bravo, Waldron. Unbelievable.

A sick fucking part of me kind of wants the series finale where Loki actually just fucking betrays everyone and takes fucking part of me kind of wants like the series finale where loki actually just fucking betrays everyone and takes the throne like i kind of like that i kind of want to just tell you tiger doesn't change his stripes kind of a thing right ultimately you gotta end with loki being loki somehow some way right you can't just be like the nicest guy in the ncu all of a sudden can you i think that's kind of how it goes in one of the comics that they're like heavily influenced by i'm pretty sure that Loki eventually becomes King Loki and is like,

fuck you guys. You wanted me to be the bad guy? I am the bad guy because society breaks him. Throwing the toothpick at him. The toothpick, yeah. We have to say it too because we said it basically every episode of WandaVision. Tom Hiddleston fucking murdered it. And Majors obviously stole the show this episode but even this episode, I wrote down

my notes like Hiddleston, man, he had some fucking, like, he was, like, just sobbing, and he's fucking aggressive, and he's trying to figure out what the fuck's going on. He murdered it. The whole series. No surprise that I like the villain guy, but I think the fact that right now, if you had to power rank, like, MCU characters,

I think I would put Loki far ahead of Thor. And to me, like, that's crazy. That's like putting Robin ahead of Batman in a way. But I, you know, Thor is good for what he's good for. But I, you know, there hasn't been a time where I've really been like blown away by Hemsworth's performance or, and it's not necessarily even about the actors.

I just feel like the Loki material now that he has this series around him and maybe they can make one with Thor and that could be equally as good. And he shoots back to the top. But right now, like if you had to tell me in an ATI question, you can only get from here on out, you could only get Thor franchise books and movies and series or Loki. I'm not even considering taking Thor.

Wow. I will say this because I bet there will be people who go Thor. Thor does have some – he had some clunkers to start. And I think he – ever since Ragnarok, he's kind of shot up like a cannon. He was – the entrance in Infinity War and then Fat Thor in Endgame was really entertaining. But Loki was like the star of the fucking show in all the Thors.

And then he was always a great villain. He's the best villain outside of Thanos that they have by a million miles. So I could live with that. Or he's not a villain at all, Clem. Oh. Oh my God. Kevin, what even is a villain?. Kevin, I said. What?

What even is a Thor? Who knows? I said on We Gotta Believe today, because obviously everyone calls Noah Syndergaard Thor, and I said, I used to call him Loki because he was like the guy to mischief where he would always fucking just suck for us. And we're like, where the hell is this Thor guy? And I feel like if you call him Loki now, it's almost cool to be Loki. It's a compliment.

Yeah. It's a compliment. He's just a shitty Thor variant. I said, Frank tweeted a picture of, I've always taken exception with Noah Syndergaard calling himself Thor because I just think he's so opposite of what Thor is. So now I think he's the Thor that kid Loki slaughtered. Yes. I like that.

I can get out of that for sure. He's like, this pussy? Yeah, I'm going to kill him. Take over my timeline. Kevin, thank you for joining us. We do have questions. I know you got the live show tonight. You want to get out of here while we do questions? Yeah. I'm going to kill him. Take over my timeline. Um, Kevin, thank you for joining us. We do have questions. I know you got the live show tonight. You want to get out of here while we do questions?

I'm going to run. You guys do your thing. Appreciate you having me on. And, uh, what if startup I'll be back in the basement with you guys. We'll see you for what if. Have a good one boys.

All right. Our first question comes from chief Keeks. He said, I'm curious if Loki is in a different universe altogether where Kang is ruling the TVA, or if it's the same universe, but in the future where the Kang variant took over. If it's a different universe, did Sylvie send him to the bad one intentionally? I needed some three chi for that ending. So I don't know if Sylvie sent him to a different universe intentionally or if that was somehow Kang interfering or he who remains interfering. I feel like maybe she doesn't have the power to send someone to a different

universe like that. I do think it is a different universe and not the future. Cause if it were the future, Mobius would know who he is, right? Or unless there's, you know, a bunch of Mobius is everywhere.

What's your take on that? All right. So for people that don't watch on the youth, listen, you don't have to watch it. You don't have to. So for people that don't watch on the youth, listen, you don't have to watch it. You don't have to. So I like, if you guys watch YouTube more than anything,

I just want you to subscribe, give a thumbs up, like the video you guys have to watch on the YouTube though, because at least during the Loki episodes, cause I, my brain breaks every time I try to figure this shit out and you can just see me as Bob's answering the question. I'm like,

uh, okay. This is what I think happened. I don't think, um, I don't think, um sylvie like knew what she was doing because she was using kang's little device so she just threw him to wherever he went and and he just went there it could have been i don't think it was the tba from the timeline we

went from just because there was similar looking mobiuses and b15 or whatever so i'm gonna say it's a completely different universe and the the good, I guess this is like good Loki. I don't know what else to call him. Our 2012 Loki, I guess is what you call him. Hero Loki. Yeah, Hero Loki. He's in, and I think Kang is the ruler of it with like an iron fist.

I don't know what you want to call it, but he's basically the dude pulling the strings and he's pulling them all for himself basically in this version in this version, which again, three, she is going to get us through a lot of shit. I mean,

we want to, we might just do an episode where we just do some three cheat and just come up with our own fucking theories. And it's going to get nuts. AKA. That's every episode for Bob. The next question comes from Tony. He said,

where do you think Sylvie goes from here? Is she a villain? Does she realize she messed up? Does she appear in movies? Maybe just season two. I think she will appear in movies in the future. I think giving her the, I don't know, spark of lighting off the multiverse makes her such a big character that, yeah, she could definitely appear in movies going forward. I could see her in Secret Wars.

I could see her in different shows. I could see her in season two. Is she a villain from here? No. I say she realizes she messed up pretty quickly, and she goes back to find Loki. Yeah, it's kind of like that, oh, shit, I fucked up. I completely ruined the universe. All I could do, the only thing that I basically became the Tony Stark, why would you do that from Infinity War?

I'm like, why would you do that? Why would you do that? And she has to feel like that, too. She's like, why would you do that from my from uh infinity war like why would you do that and she has to feel like that too she's like why did i do that like and she's has such like a dark evil hatred of the tva because they basically ruined her life and she didn't get the little highlight reel that good loki got to kind of show her being redeemed and stuff like that but i i definitely don't think we saw that light. I thought she was great, too. Yeah, so did I. I hope we see her back. And I think she'll be kind of what she was before the last episode. I think she'll be, like, you know, the chaotic good and neutral evil and all that kind of stuff. She's like a neutral evil.

I don't know which one is her, but it's somewhere in the middle of the chart. I don't think she's going to be, like, straight Loki or straight murderous. However, let's not forget, like said bob hypocrite murderer she burned fucking tv agents alive like that was some gnarly shit she was doing to people yeah and oshkosh of all places absolutely not this next one comes from logan i love this question because i actually have an answer to it when i have like a thing where i'm not just like, oh, I'm such an idiot about this. He says at the end of the show, where exactly are we on the main Avengers timeline with what happens to Loki in the movies? If he doesn't return to that timeline at some point, there's the moment with him on the ship and Thanos never happened. So yes, basically

in that changed 2012 timeline, he'll never run into Thanos as long as he never returns to the battle of New York in that moment. That's why the TVA was after him in the first place. He's created a new branched reality. So he did confront Thanos in the Avengers timeline. You know, Thor saw that happen. And like they said, an end game, the, the past can't change what already happened. Like them changing their past can't change their future or like they said in end game the the past can't change what already happened like them changing their past can't change their future or whatever they said like that like the butterfly effect is changed in the marvel universe so to thor he really saw his brother loki die but this 2012 version of loki will yes never confront thanos if he continues along this path and i hope

we get to see a glimpse of what happens in that 2012 timeline because i want to see just loki disappearing what ends up coming and i mean i guess we'll see what kang you know comes out of it but i want to see end game infinity war all that kind of stuff because everything you know happens in a certain way uh so bob thanks for getting that one because i don't think i would have answered nearly as gracefully as you would actually i thought about it for like you have to like think about it for five minutes it's like how kang said he like untangled the multiverse and made it into one you almost have to like untangle your brain to like think of the answer for any multiverse questions it's the three gallon five gallon four gallon diehard with the vengeance which i mean the

fact that comes up on this episode after kevin lee he's going to be so sad when I tell him that. Next question. I love this one from Dylan Caraballo. He says, which Marvel hero would you most like to meet the other variants of? And my answer is so cliche that I feel bad saying it because I know we're about to see it, but it really is spider-man for me into the spider-verse is like one of my favorite movies and the fact that we can live in a reality where we might be able to see toby mcguire andrew garfield and tom holland all in one movie together like an into the spider-verse movie in real life that would be my dream aside from spider-man himself i think the two big guns right like iron man captain america what are the other versions of them like um i think a lot of this a lot of times this kind of comes down to like your favorite superhero

because you would like to see like again like as an alligator or whatever the fuck it may be uh and this in turn goes to my guy i'd like to just see like different wolverines and what comes out of wolverine uh a hulk would be interesting the different versions of the hulk would be cool um hmm that's a that's That's a, that's, that's, that's, that's a fun question. And like,

even like a, I always, this is why what if it's going to be so fucking awesome. Right. Cause like we saw in the trailer where T'Challa is Star Wars. It's like, what? You know?

So I'd love to see like, yeah, I'd love to see like Magneto as the hero and professor X is the villain, like stuff like that. So, I mean, I guess the answer is all X-Men. What else is fucking new with me? I want to see my magneto as the hero and professor x is the villain like stuff like that so um i mean i guess the answer is all x-men what else is fucking new with me i want to see my x-men and the final question from bud thundergun he says how's clem feel about he who remains being

here for 20 minutes and already looking more terrifying than grimace i just had to throw that shot in there oh oh all right um it's real funny i won't forget how happy entire universe got snapped away and everything that it caused that i think he who remains got like 20 minutes of time they're still talking his name still rings out in the streets the streets grimace all right so you take it easier but i did see someone say like clem you're already falling in love with the villain it's like i think everyone's falling in love with Kang right now. I think even Bob Fox was the newest villain lover over here. Like, that guy, like, you get good actors, it's going to be hard not to love these guys, right? And I love him.

I know, and if you set him up the way you did here, where it's like, are we going to see Kang in Ant-Man? Maybe a different variant version of him will show up in, like, Doctor Strange. Or maybe a different one shows up in a post-credits scene in Spider-Man. Will one show up in the Eternals? He said he fought he fought this like he's a multiversal war how long did that last did the eternals fight kang is thanos going to be in the eternals he could be that's rumored right i think thanos his brother is in the eternals maybe or something like that there's so much what's his brother's name is it bannos or something no i think his brother's like a human too i'm pretty sure he like as a human bastard child in some way i don't know it's a great time to be a nerd though a truly great time in life to be a nerd i had one question that i had seen i

seen a bunch of people ask i don't know if anyone asked it in the replies but when wanda hears her kids do you think that is when the multiverse opens and it's you know right because and again i don't know if we're going to get these answers in dr strange i don't know if we'll ever get these answers i don't know if that sylvie moment actually did open the flood gates and if we're going to see it in spider-man it does feel like that moment was supposed to be a big one and that's why we got like yeah yeah like open the multiverse to me yeah so i'm interested to see how that's all gonna because i mean i'm fucking uh variants of well no wanda can't be a variant right because she's a nexus being so it's one person across things which now a lot of wanda vision makes a little more sense now right so it's

like we're tying this whole phase together slowly but surely, and we've got a big old puzzle piece for it. And did you see this thing? Season two might have already been filmed. People are taking every little quote because they're like, he said he was recording, Tom Edelson said he was recording on his birthday, so it was either he was doing Doctor Strange or he already had filmed Loki because it was after Loki had wrapped.

So people are already coming up like, I was saying, maybe the reason we didn't get a post-credit scene is because we're getting a secret episode next week. So everyone, 3 a.m., see you guys at fucking Disney+, right? You and the secret episodes. We're never going to escape that. I think we went the entire series without you being like, maybe there's a secret episode. And then right at the last second, you're like, stay tuned.

I love it. Never change, Clem. Never change. And hey, if you tuned in for our Loki recaps throughout the season, I know it was a bit shorter, like Falcon and winter soldier. It wasn't like Wanda vision, but we really appreciate you for being here along the ride with us. And we hope that you'll come back for what if we'll definitely do recaps of that.

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MVP of the season? Should it be your favorite episode of Loki? Give me the MVP of the season. I like that a lot. MVP. And if you want to give LVP to MVP of Loki season one, LVP of Loki season one, who are yours, Bob, do you have an MVP and LVP? MVP for me is going to be Tom Hiddleston himself. It's going to be Loki. You kind of referenced it before, but he took that character, which we thought not we were sick of, but we thought like, I think when we were going through the shows, we were just like, yeah, Loki, we'll get more of him. Cool. He took that and brought it to the next level where like the next time Loki's in something I am tuned in, I am on the edge of my seat. That's a character

that I really like. The LVP, I'm going to give to Casey for not turning into Kang the Conqueror at the end. Damn, Bob. I was going to use Casey as my LVP, so that is some cold-hearted shit.

The fact we both went to MVP for me. I mean, Hiddleston, the Loki. Actually, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to shock the world. I'm going to give an MVP to someone that – it's almost like giving the MVP to the guy who then gets swept in the first round and you're like, well, you just gave the regular season MVP to the person.

Like Sylvie just fucked up and just completely ruined the universe, but she also got us to the point where we made it all the way to the end. It was her and the other Loki, so I got to give her credit. She basically just gave us a whole bunch of fun, fucking crazy movies coming up. I'm going to give Sylvie the MVP. This also might be because I think she's enchanted me because I full-blown fell in love with her.

Then a LVP, I'm going to give the LVP to Renslayer. This is LVP, but I think Renslayer can be better, though. I think Renslayer is actually really important to this entire scene here. It's just she fucking, every time she got in our way, she fucked everything up and she just fucking skedaddled once she hit the fan.

That bitch miss minute, too. Oh, I hate that bitch miss minute. The worst. The worst. And one final rest in peace shout out to Classic Loki, one shit hit the fan um that bitch miss minute oh i hate that bitch the worst the worst and one final rest in peace shout out to classic loki without him who knows if we would have gotten here he had glorious purpose and richard e grant is still firing off the most wholesome tweets twitter has ever seen being like oh thank you for the fan archives oh thank you for all the praise on my loki performance that guy is going to be the King of comic-con come next year. Oh God.

Yeah, he is. I, that's, that's our hashtag. If you made it to the end of the episode, hit us up with a hashtag glorious purpose. That's the hashtag for everyone that made it to the end.

The OG, the real ones. There you go. And we will see you next week for something. I don't know if Clem will be back. I don't know if it'll be a solo episode. I don't know if it'll be interviews. It's like Loki.

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