My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 142 - ‘MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE: REVELATION’ PART 1 WITH LARGE AND CLEM
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Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members in the basement, noise in the basement.
Just stupid boys making basement noise in the basement.
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Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by 3G and Barstool Sports.
We've got a special guest in the basement today.
It's Large, your first time in the basement.
I can't believe it's your first time in the basement.
I'm sorry it took this long. I really you an apology me and clem here this is like the
podfather's my mom's basement connection yeah i am so it's always stuck in my craw i've always
wanted to be down here i'm a little bit bitter about it we do um the twisted history thing
donnie always want to do twisted history with me donnie has like he had like a cartoon going
for a while with history and i was one of the first people to do it with History with me. Donnie has like, he had like a cartoon going for a while with history,
and I was one of the first people to do it with him.
So he's like, I had you on my cartoon.
You know, why?
And I was like, I don't know, Donnie.
And like every week I'd be like, the Twisted History of this with Ken Jack.
He'd be like, fucking Ken Jack.
Like, you know, like it was almost insulting to him.
And that's not the case here.
But I know we've been talking about doing it for a while,
so I'm really happy that you guys found an obscure cartoon that nobody else fucking liked so you decided to
pull me out of mothballs and talk about my god i know this was such a talked about cartoon and
when we set like this my honest basement uh you know episode we didn't expect it to be as talked
about as it has been on the internet i think this i mean people are going full-on captain marvel
review bombing the rotten, all this stuff.
This was my first introduction to Masters of the Universe ever though.
Legitimately, I never watched the cartoon.
I never played with the action figures growing up.
Always thought Skeletor was cool.
Always thought he looked awesome, but never really had an interest beyond that.
Now I brought you in because you're kind of an expert in this.
Clem as well said last week, the one toy that he always wanted that he never got was I think it's Snake Mountain, right?
Right.
Yes, it was Snake Mountain.
So I didn't even realize how big a fan Clem was.
So I feel like we should start before we even get into this show just at Masters of the Universe and like how you got into that.
It came out in 83.
So 83 to 85 was the run.
So I'm about to turn 50 this year.
So 83, I was born in 71.
I was, you know, 11 to 12 years old when it came out.
So as an 11 to 12 year old kid,
so 12 to like say 14 or 15 before it started going to reruns.
So I watched this from 12 to 16 at the same time that I had a younger brother
who had then gone from four to seven. Right. So, you know, being a 12 year old in Brooklyn and
still trying to maintain a street rep. Right. Like China, you know, by hunting knives in Herman's
sporting goods and penciling in your mustache to buy vodka.
You can't really watch a lot or buy a lot of action figures.
But my little brother was perfect for that.
So he liked it.
So he got all the action figures.
I watched the cartoon by myself and then started watching it with him.
So I've seen every one of them.
And I've seen every action figure.
And I've played with every action figure.
I take long dumps. I take a long time in the bathroom almost unhealthy so like I've had some problem with
hemorrhoids and stuff I don't know if this is the right podcast yeah it happens right I used to have
to tuck them into my shoe TMI maybe but yeah yeah I so I've always brought his action figures in
with me and G.I. Joe's were the best for that G.I. Joe just the way that they were you know there's
they could move so well but He-Man was huge since he had so many of them.
The worst to play with on the toilet was
those solid rubber wrestling
figures that I brought in that time.
Yeah, you dropped one of those on your foot.
So I remember when
Jeff wanted us to do niche categories
for the dozen, for my
team, I almost did action figures.
You know, Fisto, Stinkor, like, you know,
just to kind of go through all those things. Not figures he-man figures because i'm so uh versed in and i think more so
than you guys well and that's the age difference the age difference is really clear with this
anything that happened in the early to mid 80s that's my shit it's adorable that you had like
the playing with action figures with your brother, like the Prince Adam, and then going out to Brooklyn
and being like, I'm He-Man now.
I'm a badass.
Here I am.
Airported down the middle, brush in the back pocket,
chipping in for batteries and stuff like that.
So this is a real fond one.
Right after He-Man was done in 85,
then right after that came Thundercats.
Thundercats was 85 to 87 which i think people
might even be even more fond of just because it's just slightly more recent yeah um so there was a
time there where you were either a he-man guy or a thundercat guy oh yeah you know like there was
that thing a marvel dc type thing but um and i was both i didn't i didn't pick a side because i try
to be uh right down the middle on most of it.
So, yeah, when I had heard that they were doing this reboot, I was excited.
I was excited when they did the Toys We Grew Up On.
Yeah, that's a great series.
Really great series. And they gave He-Man that full episode, which I found to be fascinating.
So that's it.
So it's all good.
We're going to get into it, I'm assuming, with all the episodes.
It's not a home run.
This isn't a home run.
It hasn't been described as a home run by just about anybody.
But I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed it a lot.
As someone with no expectations, especially as someone with no connection to He-Man himself as a character,
because he's not in a ton of this.
It's a lot of Attila story.
Like, I was cool with it just being a Masters of the Universe thing.
Where I struggled at points was not being a Masters of the Universe fan.
They kind of hit the ground running,
assuming you know a lot of the characters,
assuming you, because it is, they say, a direct sequel.
I did think the first episode with He-Man was the best one, so that might
say something. The last one was pretty
good too, where they set it up to go. I think
Mark Hamill as Skeletor is awesome, because
he just sounds like kind of the Joker, but
also Skeletor. Clem, what was your
introduction to He-Man and the Masters
of the Universe? So I
think this is one of the coolest things
about getting large in the basement finally,
which, again, we knew we had to get large in the basement back. It was like, I think this is part of the, one of the coolest things about getting large in the basement finally, which again, we knew we had to get large in the basement back.
It was like,
I think one of the first episodes we'd done a pod fathers,
we were talking star Wars and he hit me with a deep cut character.
Who was the character large that we were talking about?
Star Wars.
Um,
now it's,
so now that you're asking me,
it's a name like,
I'm also a big Lord of the Rings guy.
I know you're not a Lord of the Rings guy. I'm a big Lord of the Rings guy. No, you're not a Lord of the Rings guy.
I'm a big Lord of the Rings guy.
I used to read Tolkien.
And so now all I got in my mind.
I don't start a tale of the hunt.
Yeah, it's like Azog the Defiler or something like that.
But Azog the Defiler is a Lord of the Rings guy.
It was one of those ones who was a deep cut from Star Wars.
I'll think about it before we get out.
So now we know we have Large in the basement.
We get him down here.
And for once, I'm not the oldest guy on the show, which is kind of nice.
So Robbie obviously wasn't even like a thought of a thought i don't his parents might not have even known each other in 1983 like did your parents even in 1983 uh in
83 i guess they did yeah my mom graduated high school in 80 and they went to high school together
okay so there so so at least rob least Robbie's parents have met each other.
But Large, obviously, you know, just about teenage years
and all that kind of stuff and actually knew.
I, looking back now, I started watching He-Man probably
when it was like in reruns or something like that,
and I knew it more from the toys than I did the show
because I'm 82, baby.
So, you know, 86, 87 is when the memories start coming in.
And I used to just have a sword in my back and I would do like I have the power and stuff like that nonstop to the point where my parents are like, shut the fuck up, dude.
You can't be doing this in public nonstop.
So that's how I kind of got into He-Man.
And it's funny.
Large said brought up Thundercats because I was I was a He-Man kid.
Like the first memory I have is like He-Man kid. The first memory I have is He-Man, but Thundercats is where I just fell in love with television
and all the toys and stuff like that.
I had probably a handful of He-Man figures,
but I had all the Thundercats.
I didn't have the Thundercat lair,
which honestly might have trumped Snake Mountain
as the toy that I missed out on growing up.
That being said, I also realized
I didn't know
what the fuck was going on in he-man back in the day because i watched this one and i'm like yep
don't have any clue who any of these guys are other than like a handful whatever toys i had
were the only guys i knew everything else was a complete mystery to me so yeah definitely uh a
little bit different of an experience and kevin smith did this right yeah yeah he was the show
runner behind it yeah so i think we all went in thinking hey kevin smith you know has a part of it and i'm sure maybe the he-man diehards are very happy
with the way he kind of let it go but this was a little above my head from the jump and i was
kind of just like i could never like get my head above water for basically the entire series there's
things i like which i'm sure we'll go over but there was just a lot to take in i tell you what
if you look at the he-man dolls versus the thundercat dolls too and you watch that uh documentary on the toys that changes to whatever it is it slipped
my mind now with the things it toys that made us the the craftsmanship and the um i don't know the
like thundercats they really spent more money developing each character. Like, we'll go through it, too, today.
Like, some of the He-Man dolls, it was so blatant.
You know, Faker was in the first episode of He-Man, right?
Just a blue He-Man after he ripped off his thing.
He was literally just He-Man painted blue.
Like, the He-Man dolls were the Fudgy the Whales of uh action figures you know fudgy the whale they
turn him on his side and he's cookie puss and then they turn him upside down and he's the
mother's day bouquet they they they bastardize each thing and they even go through like they
were on such a shoestring budget right and it's it's so weird to think about how an action figure
um created a franchise right as opposed to creating an action figure around a franchise.
They had no money left to, like, get him a car.
So they had to go back to the original.
You know, remember they had that jungle Jim who was a 10 inch.
So, like, the lion that was with him and the tiger that was with him became Cringer and Battle Cat, you know, because since it was a scaled down type thing.
So it really was like they made do. cringer and battle cat you know because since it was a scaled down type thing so it's a it it
really was like they made do and then thundercats came along and it was like more articulated and
you know like nobody looked like each other yeah you know painted better right and it was just kind
of refreshing like you were like oh man i'm a little bit out of the ghetto you know that it
was when i was playing with he-man so we have a ton to talk about he-man wise masters of the
universe was i even want to talk about the Ghostbusters trailer
with you guys because that came out this week
and it looks pretty awesome.
I think we all agree on that one.
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say like you know what i mean like i'm gonna go smoke some pot i'm gonna go do some. I don't know how to say, like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm going to go smoke some pot.
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I don't do any Coke.
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Yeah, I guess it's eat 3C.
And yeah, so I got to get the Skittles.
I'm a huge fan of the brownie.
Yeah.
And it's 50 milligrams.
And so if you have the wherewithal to only eat half the brownie,
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I mean,
because if you have
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and they just sent me
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I have the Pebbles ones.
Yeah.
They have those
the cereal bar ones, too.
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Like, do you have people
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If you want to take a nostalgic trip
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take some 3Cheat.
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I know they just came out
with a new season of the movies that made us,
which I'm very excited to check out.
It's a great series.
They got a huge lineup for that.
The new series of that.
It's like Pretty Woman, Back to the Future.
Jurassic Park.
Was that on it?
Jurassic Park was on it.
I mean, they picked some.
And Forrest Gump.
More Forrest Gump.
Forrest Gump.
Wow.
That's some monsters.
Monsters for that show.
We just watched the Back to the Future one the other night.
And that's one of those things you kind of savor.
Like you do like one a night and then recall
You don't want to binge it
I know a decent amount about Back to the Future
There's a lot of little fun facts in there
I had no idea that the original Jennifer
Marty's girlfriend was Jan from The Office
What?
Right? That was a complete mindfuck
Eric Stoltz was originally Marty McFly
They filmed five weeks worth of stuff And they scrapped him because he just didn't have the comedic chops and
michael j fox had a um couldn't do it at first because the family dies and then they ended up
making it work out and when michael j fox came on jan was too tall so they were like it was one of
those things they didn't want her just towering over she got screwed that's true yeah big time
that sucks for her all the time, and then in the second one,
it becomes Elizabeth shoe.
Cause the first Jennifer,
I think she was pregnant or something.
So there's a lot of like,
and then with the action figures,
like large shed,
I don't think a lot of people realize this.
At least I didn't as an eighties baby is,
you know,
basically all like the stuff we grew up on,
they were toys that they then make cartoons for to get us kids,
you know,
just get the,
the thing into the house.
And then you go to the toy store and go, mom, I-man mom i want lion oh all this kind of stuff so uh
must watch on all this stuff movies that made us toys that made us and i am currently on ebay
looking up old thundercats and x-men figures and it actually gives you that three-cheek feel that
nice warm body feeling in your belly the nostalgia mix here i just heard that
matt damon matt damon just said in an interview that he turned down james cameron was going to
give him points like 10 or something wacky like that to star in avatar and he took a pass
because he was making like elysium or something like that you know like not a house i don't i
don't think he did it for like born or one of those ones that kind of made his career. Forgettable. I think it was one of those ones.
Damon movies.
Yeah.
But he had like – and I'm telling you, he got like an incredible amount of points were offered to him on the back end from Avatar.
And he talked – and I like Matt Damon.
Yeah, me too.
He's promoting that new show where his daughter gets whatever in prison.
And he talks about it like like I think the movie's
name is Stillwater
like
that smile
like
I fucked up so bad
you know
like you just don't know
and he's done
so many other things
and so many other
great stuff
but
he does so many
cameos now
I know
especially Marvel
just the most
random cameos
in the world
like he was in this movie
Unsane
I went to see
for like
I literally went to see it
just for a blog because the whole concept of the movie was in this movie, Unsane, I went to see for, like, I literally went to see it just for a blog.
Because the whole concept of the movie was that they shot it on an iPhone entirely.
Oh, okay.
So I went to, it was a piece of shit.
It was just hard.
It was a weird thriller movie.
Tim Coyce in an asylum.
But halfway through the movie, fucking Matt Damon showed up to be in a three-minute scene where he was, like, a therapist or something.
It was bizarre.
Never expected to see that.
I think he's got friends.
So, like, if somebody's making Eurotrip,
he shows up in the background.
Scott doesn't know.
Yeah.
And you know,
my daughter was in love with Ponyo.
So there was that,
you know,
so Liam Neeson was in Ponyo.
Yeah.
Matt Damon had a,
you know,
thing in there.
Like everyone was in Ponyo.
He's just,
he finds time to do all these little roles,
but he took a hard pass on Avatar.
All right. You know what I mean?
Speaking of movies,
this is actually the perfect transition.
We'll save Ghostbusters for the end,
but I want to talk about the infamous live-action
Masters of the Universe movie.
This came out in the 80s, right?
Or the early 90s, maybe?
The Dolph Lundgren vehicle?
I don't know when it came out.
87.
Did you see this in theaters?
Were you excited about this?
Yeah, 100% I had seen it in theaters.
I haven't seen it since, but it has been shown on TV.
And even with the TV thing, it doesn't get a stop for me.
It doesn't even get a stop like a nostalgic thing.
I wasn't mad at it.
I wasn't as mad at that as I was about the female remake of Ghostbusters,
even though I individually love every female that's in the cast.
And they're all extremely talented and I love them all.
Like that I had some animosity towards.
Maybe it's deep-seated sexism.
But it just seemed to be one of those things that I couldn't wait to forget.
There's a Punisher movie too.
Thomas Jane did one
and then the other guy who was in Rome did one.
Like there are Punisher movies
and one of them was just absolute trash.
So I just pretend it didn't happen.
So that's one of the things too.
But everyone went to go see it in 87.
I was 16.
So I definitely went to go see it.
You know, Courtney Cox. She was in it? Yeah, Courtney Cox was in it. So she was enough to kind of get in there. it um you know courtney cox she was in it yeah
courtney cox was in it so she was enough to kind of get in there yeah i'm gonna have bonked a bunch
um on this thing but there was also a famous midget in there billy bardy so billy bardy was
like a like a i i say midget just because uh za told me i could but however you guys would rather
me say it we'll say a little person billy bardy was in there and he was one of those guys that's always showed up in.
He's got a great voice.
He does a lot of animated movies and he also does a lot of fantasy movies.
So I almost went there for the little person and for Courtney Cox more so than than Yvonne Drago.
So but it was one of those things that was so easily forgettable that i'm trying to keep it forget
for a villain who really he was the one that captured my eye as a kid the only one out of the
the kind of cast of heroes where i was like man i might have to check this out they made him look
like a doofus yeah frank langella oh yeah it was frank langella who played skeletor in it and you
know we'll get into it too. When the original cartoon came out,
we'll talk about the guy who did the voice of Skeletor.
Skeletor did not have a voice that fit his character's look.
Like, that's a badass body.
It's a badass, like, sunken face.
But the guy Oppenheimer...
It's like a high-pitched voice, right?
That was his laugh.
And when they did it, like, Mark Hamill does a much better job.
But even he goes a little high pitch like Joker, I think, as an homage to Oppenheimer.
And then they put Franklin Jell-O in there.
It just, nothing worked.
The only thing that they saved from it that I saw in the cartoon that we just watched was those hoverboards.
Oh, it's from the movie? Yeah, so the hoverboards when they do that little hunting trip
with the other dead He-Man
where Adam throws down those two discs
that then become the hoverboards.
That's from the movie.
That's the only semblance of anything
from the He-Man movie that I had seen.
People who wanted to pick it apart
can probably see other stuff,
but that's all I got.
You know what I found myself doing a ton
watching this cartoon
was Googling characters that would show up and being like, did they invent this for the show?
And all of them are like former toys.
Even the Skeletor ghost that they go and talk to, that was a toy as well.
The Triclops, I thought those were some of the coolest people in the series.
Just the thought that in this world without magic, like a cult forms up based on machinery and stuff.
Drink the juice.
Drink the juice.
Like they're literally drinking out of the chalice.
All of that stuff I thought was fucking metal.
And I looked it up and I was like, holy shit, these are real toys.
Yeah.
Andre even was.
But the thing is, a lot of them didn't make it into the cartoon.
So a lot of the comic book purists, and i wasn't a comic book purist yet
when he-man came out so and you're a comic book guy uh not like for this stuff but in general yes
so like when killing joke came out the batman killing joke which is now an iconic comic book
i would say right everyone knows it so that was 88 so when i bought that i was 17 because everyone
was kind of talking about it and then it kind of got hooked and whatnot.
But like the He-Man stuff, that was already –
That was the book that got you hooked on comics?
Yeah, it was one of them.
That's the book that got me hooked on comics.
Yeah.
How about that?
There's a couple of them that got me.
I don't want to go off on a tangent, but my buddy's dad was a delivery guy for FedEx,
and he had the Marvel route.
So he would go to the plant, and it would be like 15 are going to this shop,
15 are going to Joker's Child,
seven are going here.
So whenever like 10 would come down,
let's say it was only seven,
three would go in the bin,
then they'd have to be resorted.
So when this guy would go and pick up the thing,
the guys would be like,
oh yeah, take whatever you want from the sorting bin
before we go to resort them.
And he's like, okay.
And he brought them home for his kids. He used to bring home boxes and his kid was like, I have so many doubles, do you want from the sorting bin before we go to re-sort them. And he's like, okay. And he brought them home for his kids.
He used to bring home boxes.
And his kid was like, I have so many doubles.
Do you want them?
So I used to get free comics all the time.
And then that's what got me into it.
Totally.
And then I started to buy, you know, because graphic novels were new.
Yep.
Then we did Mouse, like, you know, the one about the Holocaust and stuff.
So, like, I started to really understand graphic novels.
And that's why i'm such
a fucking geek you know what i mean like i can go off on those tangents i know we gotta be in the
basement way more yeah it's and it's such a fond memory for me and and you can tell because i think
we're both in the same thing this is where we we diverge clem but when robbie and i do the the
dozen if they start to ask about what was the last ACC player to rush for 1,000 yards, you actually start to think about it.
You're like, he's Clemson.
Me and Robbie are like, oh, take this one off.
Totally.
You know what I mean?
We could start looking at our phones and people will know.
We're so clueless that we're not even cheating.
We're just bored.
Right. But if they were to say,
what were the only two scented He-Man action figures,
I would know what they were.
There were scented He-Man action figures?
Only two.
So this is the deal.
Can we go into He-Man now?
Oh, let's go into it.
So He-Man, they bring it.
So the first episode was a biggie, like you said.
Yeah.
And at the end of it,
they just introduced this big magical character named uh
moss man yeah moss man and like moss man was very obscure like you're like how the fuck did he make
the movie it's kind of like a swamp thing yeah a big swamp thing thing but the voice of moss
moss man was alan oppenheimer so he was the guy that voiced Skeletor. So to throw him a bone, they let him voice this obscure thing, Mossman.
And the only reason I remember Mossman, he was the worst doll.
Beastman is the guy, the orange guy.
Beastman was sick.
He was awesome.
I thought Beastman was really cool.
So he was orange and he had almost like a spiky-ish haircut.
He used to wear this big plastic thing that you could take off, but it was almost like a furryiky-ish haircut. He used to wear this big plastic thing
that you could take off,
but it was almost like a furry scarf
or muff or something like that.
So for Mossman,
they obviously took that off.
They just painted Beastman green.
They put moss on him
and covered him in green velour.
So he had that little mossy feeling to him.
And then they sprayed him with pine.
So he always smelled like pine. And the the only other person the only other action figure that smelled was stink or who
wanted being played by jason muse voiced by jason muse and he smelled like patchouli they did patchouli
oil on him so those were the only two scented ones. What a fucking strange idea. Yeah, it was absolutely. Someone was on 3G when they came up with that.
Dan March, I had no idea.
Well, no, like Merman is the guy that everyone kind of liked.
I liked Merman a lot.
He was good.
And he's voiced by Kevin Conroy, who we know as Batman from the animated series.
He's badass, yeah.
He's just fun.
I'd like to listen to him just read me the dictionary yeah
and they took merman they painted him white and black and that was stink or they made merman into
a skunk by just painting that's what they did so they said oh we have merman we'll paint them white
and black we'll we'll uh dip them in patchouli oil and we'll put them out there as a uh as a
fucking skunk smell like oil yeah so he was only in the comics. He never made it to the TV, but he was a popular doll.
And then Jason Mewes got to voice him.
He only had that small thing.
Yeah, just a small part, but you know Kevin Smith has to get his boy a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was cool.
So that's what I saw as I was going through this.
I was like, oh my God, Alan Oppenheimer.
That voice.
Did you recognize him?
Right away. Right away, wow. And I saw his name, too, so I was ready, oh my God, Alan Oppenheimer. That voice, almost like- Did you recognize him? Right away.
Right away, wow.
And I saw his name too, so I was ready for it.
But it's almost like that Mel Blanc type voice.
And so it was exciting to see.
And I remember how terrible the doll.
And then I came up Mossman and Stinkor were number 31 and 30 respectively
on the 36 worst action figures of all time.
Wow.
I had seen that just like,'re cracked. Does all those ones,
which are fantastic.
But,
um,
yeah,
so that was,
uh,
that was my thing.
I mean,
the Moss man's a sweet looking action figure.
Like if you're looking at the computer,
I'm sure in real life,
it absolutely like literally and figuratively stinks.
That was the one thing about these T-man figures are like,
they had like fun,
like many faces and that was a dude and you could change his faces.
He had like three faces.
You spun the little thing and it changed them. Um, like many faces and that was a dude and you could change his faces he had like three faces you spun
the little thing and it changed them um that was kind of like the thing that i loved about he-man
more than anything and then we see them i guess on the tv it kind of like resonates with the kid
kid at home but uh shit i had no idea we had sent it so you can see beast man right you can see
beast man in it totally and it was just i'll put all the pictures on the screen for those watching
on youtube so if you're listening on the podcast all the pictures on the screen for those watching on YouTube.
So if you're listening on the podcast, go over to YouTube. And if you're watching on YouTube, make sure to give us the thumbs up, subscribe, all that
fancy stuff.
But I do want to note the cast of this entire series is pretty fantastic.
We've got Chris Wood as He-Man and Prince Adam.
We've got Lena Headley as Eva Lynn, who is Cersei from Game of Thrones.
Mark Hamill as Skeletor, we mentioned.
Sarah Michelle Gellar as Teela.
Tiffany Smith as Andra.
She does a ton of animated voices.
Liam Cunningham as Man-at-Arms,
who I thought Man-at-Arms was one of my favorite characters on the show.
He's awesome.
He's always been awesome.
Liam Cunningham, for those that don't know,
is Ser Davos from Game of Thrones.
Justin Long as Roboto, another badass character.
I was like, why is he in there?
Why did they pay Justin Long to do it?
But his voice, robotic type thing, really was soothing.
And I liked the angle they took with him where they were like, he was created by Man-at-Arms, so he knows how to do the thing.
It was almost like the Hulk in Endgame being like, no let me do it let me do the snap i'm the only one
that could handle it um but all across it henry rollins as triclops like what a random person you
got there um like you said there's some homages to the original and i want to shout out griffin
newman because from what i understand orco was always kind of like a so-so character in the show.
I loved Orko.
Orko is one of my favorite characters in this show.
So he did a good job.
And whoever – who is it?
Steven Root as Cringer, another one of my favorite characters.
I don't know what it says about me, but Cringer and Orko were like two of my favorites here.
And Steven Root is legit.
Like he played a great character in Justified, one of my favorite series of all time.
He played this wacky judge who always carried a gun on him and stuff.
And then he was also the guy with the stapler and office space.
Remember the guy?
Is that my stapler?
Holy shit, that's him?
I think that's Steven Root.
Yeah, yeah.
What?
So they pulled him out.
And I wouldn't have picked him to have a cringey voice.
Yeah.
Cringer is not a great character,
and he wound up being a very big character in this one, right?
I've only slam danced once in my life,
and I went to go see the Beastie Boys
at a hockey rink in Kalamazoo, Michigan,
and we drove up in a friend of mine's car.
We were drinking Mickey's.
Mickey's is malt liquor.
That's what Clem just took a sip out of right there.
Yeah, 40s and Mickey's.
We got there, and Beastie Boys were the opening show.
They were the openers?
No, no, Beastie Boys were the main thing.
Henry Rollins opened up for them.
So I saw Henry Rollins and the Beastie Boys in 1990-something, early 90s at Calumetree, Michigan.
We could do a show on just the shows you've been to, Nirvana, all that shit.
Oh, yeah, Blind Pig.
So that's where the first time I saw it.
So it was like the Search and Destroy tour.
So Henry Rollins, not everyone had tattoos back then.
He got up there.
He never wore a shirt.
He just wore those black shorts with the black Doc uh doc martens you know like real you know
and i always try his punk and i always try cloths he's stone white haired now you know what i mean
he's not as jacked one of the best episodes of uh joe rogan he went on there and he was good
going to north korea undercover as a journalist and he's a he's a psycho he's 100 but he's lived
a crazy life and he has very crazy stories. I think he actually goes on like theater tours now and just tells stories for his life and stuff.
Yeah.
And so it's like one of those things where it blows my mind.
Office space guy now is Cringer.
Henry Rollins is Triclops.
Do you know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
Sarah Michelle Gellar is the only one that I didn't think really fit too well.
I don't know why.
Really?
Like just maybe voice wise or something like that. I don't know why. Like, just maybe voice-wise or something like that.
I don't have a fondness necessarily for her.
She doesn't do it for me from a perspective of,
oh, I remember when she was in this, this, and this.
Yeah.
But, you know, she did a fine enough job.
But anybody could have been.
Like, Jenna Jameson as Tila.
Like, they really could have went to the vault.
Again, you can bonk me for it.
But it was really cool seeing Rollins show up.
I feel like Lars clearly has – Lars just added himself that he's never seen Cruel Intentions.
Because when you see Sarah Michelle Gellar, you think of her.
Oh, yeah.
I mean that won the best kiss, right?
Her and the girl.
Right, yeah.
They recreated it at the MTV.
Yeah, exactly. I had a sock named after that
i i and it was uh the voice that i like was like wait a second is that him and i and then i i kind
of was second guessing myself the whole time because it's such a like distinct voice my guy
dennis hazebirth uh aka or uh president palmer the greatest president in the history of television or movies, President Palmer from 24.
When I heard him as King Grayskull, shivers down my spine.
All-time great voice guy.
Not a 24 guy, so I didn't pick that one up.
Oh, but I mean, he's Allstate commercials too, right?
Allstate commercials.
Oh!
Yeah, and then the dude from the Drew Carey show.
In good hands?
You're in good hands.
You're in good hands.
I actually, you know what is bad for me to say this now? I met him once. Oh. And my friend made a I'm in good hands? You're in good hands. You're in good hands. I actually, you know what, it's bad for me to say this now.
I met him once.
Oh.
And my friend made a
I'm in good hands joke
while he shook his hands.
Really?
Yeah, he shook his hands
and he said,
I'm in good hands.
That's awesome.
Don't disrespect Palmer like that.
The guy who played,
so you were talking about
that Skeletor bullshit
in the spirit world type thing.
So that's Scare Glow, right?
So he glowed in the dark.
I read that online.
That's Candyman.
That's Tony Todd, who's fucking terrifying.
Yeah.
Tony Todd, a big black dude.
So that was him.
I liked that kind of arc in the show of the fear and everyone trying to feed off the character's fear and Orko sacrificing himself.
That whole episode I thought was great.
I liked the second episode a lot where they went undercover into triclops and we got to see like the man at
arms pretty cool in his uh undercover gear he reminded me of like a mortal kombat character
with like his bun and stuff there was just some of the series that was hard to follow i would say
overall though i enjoyed watching it and whether or not we were doing this podcast I would go on and watch part two
to see how the series ends
I was frustrated right just like
everybody else and I'm making
assumptions on how the other five are going to go
yeah you know and
I assume the last five are going to have a lot of he-man
right yeah and raising somebody
from the dead twice in ten episodes
is a little egregious
you know so and it's
gonna have to happen i know that kevin smith had alluded to it to tell everybody just to calm the
hell down i didn't do this to kill the guy off you killed him twice see that was the thing in
the last episode when when skeletor does the big stab it was just like holy fuck he just came back
i think about like i said my four five six seven year old brother eight year old brother
like through that thing was watching it that was heavy yeah that was heavy if all of a sudden i
had my four or five year old well they did say this was sort of for like the fans of the original
that have grown up a bit now there was a lot of heavy like when orco got aids we was talking about
in the third episode like when he showed up i was like oh my god orco um AIDS, we was talking about in the third episode, like when he showed up, I was like, oh, my God, Orko.
We were talking about it before we went live today.
Large and I were just, you know, chopping up on the phone being like, oh, we're going to head in and head into the basement later.
And Large was like, yeah, when Orko got AIDS, I go, that was my note.
It was like Philadelphia Orko.
It was tough to see.
I wrote it down.
Episode three, Orko has AIDS.
Episode four, he gets cured but still dies.
Episode five was a lot
that's that
all these other notes
were like from episode 1 and 2
if you want to read anything about AIDS
Elton John put out a thread
this week
you know
no disrespect
fuck DaBaby
I did Out and About with Patty yesterday
I ripped apart DaBaby
for being that
for being that fucking
um
but Orko did look like
yeah
he did look
and we're talking about the 80s right so we're talking about that time where all of a sudden for being that fucking... But Orko did look like, yeah. He did look...
And we're talking about the 80s, right?
So we're talking about that time
where all of a sudden
Pedro gets on the real world and stuff.
And I was like, wow,
they're really throwing this back there.
And so it was good.
And obviously he was a hero.
So I will say this.
So I think every...
So I didn't know coming into this
how it was received online.
I didn't realize there was like
the Rotten Tomato bombs were going off. And I only had heard in the beginning that it might have actually been a
decent series but it sounds like people weren't you know in love with it i will say this seeing
like the old enemies mix it up i thought was a cool twist right how everyone's kind of like
for the greater good of eternity and all that stuff that was very cool love it's like x-men 2
yes exactly and i actually had made a note
that I was like,
you know what,
I kind of wish there was
a version of this show
where it was a little more metal,
where you did see, you know,
guys' heads getting ripped off
or you get a little bit more blood
and stuff like that.
And the one episode
Sienna watched with me,
she comes downstairs
and she gets to see Adam
get a fucking spear
right through his abdomen
and just blood dripping off
by the giant skull man.
And I think that kind of scared her a little bit. But I honestly would have been all right with it
if Adam just dies. And that's the end of Adam. He came back, bad move. Skeletor is just going to
rule supreme. And the next He-Man has to kind of ascend to the top. If that's not going to happen,
I think this was kind of a bummer of an overall thing. It feels like we just ran. We were on a
treadmill for the last five episodes.
We didn't really go anywhere when it's all said and done.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't think it's enough to make this series to replace He-Man with
Teela.
And I like her character,
but even we're all going to,
I think,
agree with this.
We all like Sergeant in Arms,
Man in Arms,
rather better than his daughter.
Right.
Like if,
yeah. And I mean, I thought he was Liam Neesoneson at first so and i said the same thing like i could
totally it was like oh my god neeson's back but the gentleman from game of thrones was just as
good i mean you know it's interchangeable but um so so yeah i think he-man fans that's the easiest
dig on this and when i said i was coming on here, people were like, this thing sucked, this thing
sucked. I'm not saying it's very good.
And I'm saying that my nostalgia factor
is going to give this a higher grade
than what most people would do.
But everybody's dig was, I watch
He-Man to watch He-Man. And there wasn't
enough He-Man in that. And they do have
a point. They just do.
I could totally see that. Like I said, as someone with
no connection to
he-man i was okay with it i just kind of viewed it as like this is a masters of the universe series
and these are all the characters so i was okay with that but when there's one flashback sequence
an episode and a show about he-man people are going to want to see he-man and when i said like
when you look at the proof is in the pudding like the best stuff was usually when he-man was in the
mix so i totally agree with that when you see the outrage online versus your disappointment, do you feel like the outrage is overblown?
Because the show, I will say, has amazing critical reviews.
Nobody's really bashing it in that.
And you could say maybe it's because they went with the female lead and people are afraid to say what they really want.
But I've seen a lot of people that are pretty happy with it.
And they're like, you know what?
There's a lot of crazy homages to the original stuff that we didn't think we would get.
Like, is there two sides to it for you?
I think this is going to be like the Nickelback sort of.
I sometimes pump Nickelback and I sing till I'm hoarse, but not if anybody's around.
Like, I think this is going to be one of those things.
The haters will be louder.
They missed.
I was disappointed on the end of He-Man, and you can't remember this,
but you know how G.I. Joe had knowingness half the battle?
Go Joe.
Like, G.I. Joe.
You know, He-Man used to wrap up each episode with a lesson.
And so he'd be like, remember, kids, don't make her peas your peas.
And then he'd speed off, see you next time, or something like that.
Like, they could have easily have done that that and that would have been kind of cool.
And it wasn't always He-Man that did it.
It was always like somebody else.
And it was like real weird stuff, like point to the doll where he touched you type shit.
So there were certain things that I think they left out.
He-Man never injured anybody in the original cartoon.
That's a little factoid. I heard about that. Kevin Smith talked about that in the lead up right that's a little fact i heard about that yeah
kevin smith talked about that in the lead up a little bit on his podcast and he kind of hyped
people up where he was like for the he-man fans that always wanted to see the fights that they
didn't really get to show because they were very much made for like kids kids back in the day
we're gonna show those fights on this show fucking he-man so if he-man hit you with like the sword like with a power
bolt from the sword it would throw you into a lake yeah he if he was to take you he wouldn't like
um what's the other uh show that limited edition cartoon that's on amazon the invincible invincible
oh man awesome like when they start so violent yeah so the original He-Man was the anti-invincible. It's almost like the 66 Batman with the pow.
Like they don't show the punch.
It's like a big, yeah.
100%.
And so everybody would like slide off on the ice or get pushed into water or get pushed
off into a thing and you couldn't see it.
It's like Wile E. Coyote type stuff.
And then this one, that's the one thing I'm glad.
Arms ripped off, stabbing.
Stabbing through the heart and all that stuff.
So that's one of the things
Skeletor's badass
gotta admit that
and another person
Skele-God
I would like more of
to be honest
yeah
when they took He-Man away
they also took Skeletor away
yeah so the two main guys
yeah I think some people
arguably liked Skeletor
more than He-Man
back in the day too
but when he
in the last scene
of the fifth thing
when he came out
and like
he becomes Skele-God
I mean I'm really looking forward that's crazy I'm looking forward to six i'm looking forward to the cartoon before no so that's like i've never
seen the the branching of the um like i thought that was a little bit weird too like all of a
sudden they go on a quest to forge the sword and then even the forging of the sword seemed like
one of those things they wrote as they were going along you know what i mean like he kind of got
that feeling that they did it, but still, you know,
it was a little sappy the way
Justin Long, you know...
Yeah, yeah.
Sacrifices himself.
Yeah.
And then he feels emotional.
He feels...
He's kind of like IG-11.
Oh, that was bad.
That was bad.
That was a little bad.
Yeah.
There was times, again,
like, Robbie knows this
more than anyone.
We're in the basement a lot.
We're going through
some heavy nerd shit where, like, my brain just –
there was times where – I think it was the second episode.
I just saw He-Man back on the screen.
I'm like, wait, did he die last episode?
Yeah, the flashbacks.
Yeah, there's flashbacks.
You don't know what's a flashback.
And then, like, the sword – it seems like, all right, we got to get this sword.
As soon as the sword broke apart, I go, all right, this sword,
the next four episodes are going to be about getting it –
both pieces, get it back together um and then it just like kind of happens in one episode in like
like large set they're kind of writing it as they go along this is the other thing that watching
human as a kid that didn't know what the fuck was going on because i was like four you could just
kind of like get past but as an older person the technology makes no fucking sense they have like
old castles they have like these like
old walls you know no air conditioning or heat and stuff like that yet they're shooting lasers
and have hoverboards and are flying like put some of that technological work into your infrastructure
attorney all right can we just build up the technology you know from the ground up for the
people instead of just building for war maybe that's just you know mankind at its
soul or i guess you know living creatures is they always are looking for war and to climb on other
people to reach the top of life but come on man like we could be better than this there's magic
you guys have magic as a resource and you give living in fucking castles they probably don't
even have toilet paper to wipe their asses they have like uh community fountains yeah you know there was an
aqueduct in the background like barely running water like you said they did live like animals
for people who had a lot of fucking magic very close at hand too and a lot of eternia looks like
it's just a desolate wasteland except for the two castles yeah yeah that's not a lot going i'll tell
you what looks great one of my biggest I'm getting pretty personal on this podcast.
And stop me or cut it out.
I don't give a shit.
I'm terrified of death.
I don't know what's going to go on after death.
So it keeps me up at night.
It's my big fear.
I say it out loud, but I don't give a shit.
I'd be pumped to die and go hang out with Greyskull.
Oh, my God, yeah.
And those other dudes.
All their master or mad at arms.
Yeah, they're old like He-Man. He-Man. Yeah, they're the old like he man yeah they're the old
and so they were calling them flea man yeah yeah yeah and then they were like you know
they were doing like that hunt thing by the way the thing that they caught was panthro that's the
panther that skeletor rides oh cool cringer becomes battle cat and panthro becomes you know
the whatever panthro and uh so that's was like the
homage to panthro um but that looked kind of cool like gray skull looked like a guy i want to throw
back some mugs of magic mead or whatever the fuck they're drinking up there butterbeer you know i'll
just i'll just throw this out there if i'm adam there's no fucking way i'm going back to attorney
i'm living in heaven with other he-men even with with the – the Flea Man burn was bad too.
Even Sienna was like, oh, that was like kind of like a six-year-old was like, oh, I don't know about that.
Why did he get to be like He-Man when he was in there?
He got to choose it.
So they said he's the only guy.
I must have missed that.
He's the only guy in heaven.
What's it called?
Preternia?
Which one is the heaven one?
Preternia, I think.
Yeah.
That shows his lesser form, they said.
And then when I heard that, I was like, oh, so does that give him a second trip in as He-Man?
So if he dies again, he gets to come back because technically he was never in there.
You know what I mean?
Like, is that the spoiler that, you know?
They might just keep him alive at the end of the series.
I hope so.
I don't want to see him die a third time, to be honest.
It's killing me.
Pun intended.
Yes, exactly.
But that just seemed like the place to be.
And I think Greyskull.
I would love a spinoff, like an origin story of Greyskull and all that stuff.
They named the castle after him, for Christ's sake.
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Yeah.
Another thing I wanted to bring up.
Did you know that there was a canceled live action movie
written by the screenwriter of The Dark Knight
and Man of Steel, David Goyer? Did not know not know that yeah this was planned uh for i think 2009 and apparently focused a lot
on the relationship between he-man and battle cat it was like battle cat didn't trust this new he-man
that was coming up and he had to earn not only the respect of former he-man that came before him but
his own battle cat.
And they said it was like a nice story.
David Escoyer was going to direct it as well.
And they said it just got canceled.
It just got scrapped out of nowhere.
When I first heard that this project was in the works with Kevin Smith, I thought that it was going to be live action.
Do you think live action He-Man can work today?
It's tough, right? going to be live action do you think live action he-man can work today i listen tough right my favorite movie growing up was uh conan the barbarian right so when we had to do on lights
camera barstool um we had to rank arnold schwarzenegger movies and conan the original
one was a one for me and it shouldn't be right That's not a very good movie. There is a sex scene in it.
Like, it's not easy to watch in front of the kids
and stuff like that.
So that is the pinnacle.
And then when they remade it,
like Jason Momoa was Conan once.
Like, do you remember when they did
the Jason Momoa iteration of it?
Yeah, I remember that.
Terrible.
So that kind of lightning in a jar doesn't work.
But then, like, I remember being fond
of The Scorpion King when The Rock did it,
and then they wound up doing another one.
So those are always hit or miss for me.
And then The Rock wound up doing Hercules,
and that was okay.
I still watch it every now and again.
Speaking of The Rock, I saw his new movie, Jungle Cruise.
I got a screener.
No big deal.
You said it was good.
It's pretty fucking good.
Is it?
Yeah, it's very enjoyable.
In the Pirates of the Caribbean way.
It's like a fun adventure movie.
I think the whole family would enjoy it for the dads.
So, yeah, I would recommend it.
So I don't know if you'd be able to.
Rock can't do everything.
Like, The Rock can't do everything.
And so I don't know.
Like, that's the whole thing.
He looks stupid with the hair.
I know.
Yeah, Terry Crews put the hair on, too, the other day.
But, you know, there's so many great characters that they
left unexplored that they could like that's Spike Gore up there in the in the corner like there's so
many you know tangent secondary tertiary characters that they could have gone into a claw full and
whatnot like maybe we'll get them in the last five maybe yeah and so I think they transfer well to
maybe a movie live action but they would have to do it in a pretty campy way.
To have Dolph Lundgren come in and then go all black and then be on the streets of – I don't even think it was Los Angeles.
It was something kind of weird.
And people weren't wearing the loincloths and stuff like they were.
It didn't work.
Oh, they put him on like Earth?
Yeah, he came to Earth.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, he landed in a blockbuster or something.
That's terrible.
That is tough.
You know what I would do is I think I would make it like a Taika Waititi movie.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yes.
Kind of go, like, satirical with it, but also make it, like, you know, full of heart at the end.
And, you know, make us cry, make Roboto be like, ah, I feel fear.
He makes everything better too now that I'm thinking about it.
Taika?
Yeah, if he was like to be at the helm of something like this,
just the way that he handled, what was the name?
Ragnarok?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But the worm that died in the guy's arms.
Oh, Korg and Meek?
Yeah, Meek.
He's like, yeah, oh, Meek's dead.
Oh, no, he's alive again.
Like even just the subtle way that he did it,
it just seems like everything he touches turns to gold.
The Mandalorian, his episodes with Rey,
him having a Star Wars movie on the horizon as Star Wars fans
makes me excited.
I'm like, yep, I trust that guy.
Right.
Do whatever you want.
Get super wacky with it.
Right.
Yeah, it's in very good hands with him.
So now that you mention him, I'd be pumped to go see that movie
but otherwise i like that that exists mainly in the cartoon form it's easier with all like the
different cgi all the different talented people like you know tyker whoever it might be in
hollywood with three chi out there to kind of expand the mind a little bit i feel like we could
make a good he-man it's just someone the right people have to get involved with it i don't want
to see motherboardboard again.
That was the worst name I've heard in a while.
Oh, yeah.
Motherboard, tough name. Tough name
for a He-Man guy, and you can kind
of give him... That's the thing. I think those weird
powers and
the names were better in the 80s, but the weird powers
you could be like, well, it was the 80s. They were still
trying to learn the medium. In 2021,
these guys got to be fucking cool. All the have to have like sweet ass powers crazy names and
everything has to hit i thought like things like motherboard just kind of fell flat yeah that was
a little bit creepy i like the idea of it and that had a conan feel to it too like when conan
finally went i'm going back to that too went up to the temple and he had james old jones with the
great haircut.
Everyone was kind of like cultish.
I've never seen it.
I've got to watch it with you one day.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's the same kind of robes that they wore.
Triclops wore that robe that was kind of like exposed on the side.
That's what the whole thing at the end of Conan was.
And so I think that they always try to bring a little bit of a culty aspect to it.
I like that.
But the motherboard one, that's even when the animation started to break down too a little bit.
Like you saw the buzzsaw of a sudden form with the hands like it.
And the spaghetti come out and start to grab people.
Like the animation was, they tried to stay in line with what the old He-Man was.
So I understand they couldn't go too crazy with the animation or they didn't want to.
But I think I could have seen a little bit more from the animated figures with Kevin Smith.
I thought –
You know what I didn't like about the animation?
At times when they would kind of transition from like the 2D to the 3D for like a singular shot.
Every time they did that, I thought it looked bad.
And I would have preferred to just see like a 2D shot of the same thing.
If you just kept it flat.
Like every time they – it almost took me out of the show like, oh, yeah,
I'm watching like a weird computer-generated thing now.
Other than that, I was okay with the animation.
I think because it was very in line with the DC animated cartoons as well,
which I watch pretty often, which I feel like I'm so used to now.
So I was like, it is what it is.
But I do agree with you in that
it's not like the most fluid.
You don't look at it and you're like,
that's beautiful animation.
Right.
You're like, it serves the story.
Looks like you, man.
Yeah.
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Yeah, everyone has it.
And I'm telling you, getting six kids at the time, Bridget was a newborn.
So Finn was just a prick.
He was around just over three.
I actually took my belt off and I lashed him to a chair.
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I don't know why you would.
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that i i mean i mean we're talking about things that resonated with us as children that i may not
have understood ghostbusters was my favorite movie until probably about ghostbusters 2 came out and
then like we've talked about this in the past robbie it soured me a little because i love the
first one even though i didn't understand why ray's eyes were getting crossed as the lady ghost
was hovering above him and stuff like that whereas large i'm sure was getting every single reference
that was being thrown his way back in 84 um but i'm so happy we have another ghostbusters i mean
again this the he-Man re-release,
they're going for that tickle the nostalgia bone.
This one, I think, is going to be a better hit than the He-Man.
Jeff D. Lowe fucked my mind with this yesterday.
He did.
I saw it happen in real time.
Yeah.
And so Robbie was like,
I want to talk about the Ghostbusters thing.
And when you said that, I was like, awesome.
Let's talk about the real Ghostbusters cartoon
because it was a great cartoon. I thought you were staying along the cartoon thing so they had a
cartoon and a couple of them but the real favorite cartoon the real ghostbusters was a great cartoon
even though egon was blonde for some reason and so i thought that was probably the direction we
were going and i just spit on the mic for some reason um but so you said no no the new one which
i had seen i had seen the uh the preview to the new one or the trailer rather.
And I said, yeah, it looks cool.
Like I like the edginess and the way that it's in, you know, like Iowa or something like that.
And it seems like the technology is there, but they're still using the old car.
And when she goes out on that side car, it looks like it's old, you know, like rusty and whatnot.
And Jeff's like, yeah, but it's old you know like rusty and and whatnot um and jeff's like
yeah but it's not going to be funny or something like that he was like he was saying that jeff is
basically worried that people have a fundamental misunderstanding of like what they loved about
ghostbusters right and he was saying he's afraid that they're trying to make another action movie with comedy in it like the 2016 one rather than a comedy with a little bit of action in it.
Yeah.
I don't think anything would be – listen, with the cast that they put in outside of Rudd, there are no hitters that would be able to stand in and be as funny as Bill Murray.
No.
Just Bill Murray. No. You know, just Bill Murray.
So there's nobody that could collectively be as funny as Bill Murray was in that.
There's nobody that could be as collectively as funny as Rick Moranis was in that.
Right?
Like there were some heavy, heavy hitters, you know, Ackroyd obviously and whatnot.
But so like trying to make a Ghostbusters as funny as the original Ghostbusters, don't
do that.
Yeah, it might not work.
Yeah.
Don't change it into girls and try to do it either.
We've learned that the hard way.
So going on and doing some sort of in the future, granddad left us this property.
All of a sudden, there's some tile work on the floor that we can Rubik's into something
and it winds up that it's on the precip the precipice or whatever a big type of uh ghost void that that i think that intrigues me a little
bit and i will not like they're setting us up so we don't have to compare it to the original
ghostbusters this will have no whereas the 2016 abomination was a one forfor-one, not shot remake, but it made me want to compare it to 1984,
and 1984 was just too good.
Those girls were set up to fail.
So take a storyline and go with it.
I think, actually, you made a good point, Large.
I never thought about that with the remake
that was made a few years ago.
You had just such fucking titans for the original movie,
and like we said, those girls on their own are hilarious. they carry movies they carried shows they carried us and ellen a lot
of race even chris hampshire um yeah but like the fact that to try to like have any of those guys
feel just the merges i mean how ramus i mean all those things like stripes genius genius so that
sigourney weaver was awesome yeah so gorney weaver was awesome and
and you know bonk me again she was kind of sexy when she was hovering above the bed
i would have had the restraint that bill murray did perhaps but at least um but you know the
subtle the subtle humor where it's like the the the blonde girl you know bill murray's giving
her all the right answers the other guy's getting buzzed yeah you have uh even you know walter peck who just plays that 80s prick so perfectly you know and
i like i said it i blogged the the last trailer like yes this man has no dick like that's the
kind of humor that just to this day is the high water market can make me laugh every single time
um i will say that having jason reitman i think this is a family affair he's gonna want to you
know do well by the original while also not completely trash it.
Where I feel like, you know, maybe Kevin Smith may not have as much of the attachment to He-Man because, you know, it didn't put, you know, food on his table growing up.
I feel like it will at least be a decent movie.
But Jeff definitely raises a good point there.
Like, they can't really go tit for tat with the original in terms of comedy.
Or they can't even be the same movie because the original in terms of comedy or they can't even
be the same movie because it won't it doesn't have the straight it's almost impossible to have like
michael from stranger things come in and just be the next bill murray at the age of like 12
which by the way the stranger kids things if they look if any of them look like him right now
this they're gonna have to change the plot of the new season because everyone is like the
summer that has happened since we were last in
what's the name of the town hawkins uh yeah right i've never watched a single episode oh really my
kids have seen them all and they left me behind on i said i'll watch it with you and then they
just started and i was like all right i'll catch up where are you guys at it's good stuff you would
like that's everyone tells me i have to watch it so you have to watch stranger things before you come back in the basement because it's very big time basement stuff, 80s vibes.
And, I mean, I thought that He-Man was crazy with ending every episode in a cliffhanger to keep you coming back for more.
Stranger Things, like, they fucking had that thing down to a T where as soon as it's over, you hear the theme song and you immediately want to re-binge.
It's like a fucking eating a snack. You just more more more i'll say this about jeff's
ghostbusters fear i understand it especially after we were burned the last time i'm going in a lot
more optimistic than him with paul rudd with jason reitman i feel like they're gonna do right by the
franchise i love the little stay puff marshmallow man in the trailer they're gonna take over like
baby yoda this summer you're gonna see those in every toy store in every you know
meme there's gonna be little stay puff men i'm i'm here for it you're gonna probably see a bunch
of promotional stuff with like actual marshmallow brands too you'd have to imagine it's it's too
easy yeah magic spoon now has a marshmallow cereal oh Oh, come on, Magic Spoon.
And you know what I would love to do?
We've done some commentaries in the basement.
Maybe before Afterlife we could do a Ghostbusters commentary.
You know what?
I love the Talking Dead.
I used to like it.
Me too.
I love Talking Bad when they did for the Breaking Bad thing.
I thought, and that was new. I hadn't seen that before.
No one's ever done it.
Is this He-Man Masters of the Universe Revelations?
Oh, yeah.
After the show, it was called Revelations Revelations.
Like the Revelations.
And it was, that was, and not to use the kid's word,
but that was very cringy.
You know, I love Kevin Smith.
I couldn't watch that.
It was a forced peppiness to it.
I didn't watch it.
I was just like, yeah. Please don't watch that it was a forced pepiness to watch it I was just like yeah please
don't watch that yeah that was it and it was called Revelations Revelations which is just the
worst Talking Dead is brilliant name it couldn't be a better name bad was a reach right yeah yeah
but but um Revelations Revelations was yuck but like like what you guys do after my mom's basement
excuse me after like Loki and all that stuff yeah mom's basement, excuse me, after like Loki
and all that stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
However the hell you want to try
and like get it.
I would love to get you on
for the Ghostbusters episode too.
And you know what I liked seeing
was on the trailer
exclusively in movie theaters.
This one's not going to streaming.
They're like,
we want to get you back
in the theaters for this one.
Yeah.
It's obviously going to take over
and do massive box office numbers
with Paul Rudd
in the lead role.
I went back to the theaters a couple of times since.
And one of the reasons why I'm even more attracted to Stranger Things now is I really like David Harbour in Black Widow.
Oh, yeah.
He was great, right?
I don't see enough of him.
Like, you know, he was in – what the hell was he in?
Oh, The Equalizer.
The Equalizer, yeah.
He was very good in that.
Double crosser.
He was very, very good in Black Widow.
I mean, Florence Pugh.
Yeah, she steals the show.
She's the best.
And I didn't know her.
You got her right on The Dozen.
I said it was unfair.
Who is she?
Nobody knows her.
And I knew her from the trailer from Black Widow.
Yeah, and she was extraordinary.
But I thought to David Harbour, I'd like to see more of him.
So I'm as close now to watching Stranger Things as I've ever been.
Well, I'll say this.
Me and Clem have discussed my theory on David Harbour.
This could be the last thing we can get out of here.
This is a real tangent.
But you know how in Black Widow, and spoilers for Black Widow,
Red Guardian keeps saying he fought Captain America, he fought Captain America.
He even says to Natasha, like, has he asked about me in the past?
I think he's telling the truth, even though the timeline doesn't add up for when Captain America would be frozen in ice the whole time.
I think when Captain America went back in time to spend the rest of his life with Peggy, the TVA came after him.
And we're going to get – we heard rumors that Chris Evans is going to come back.
I think we're going to get, like, Steve Rogersgers peggy carter on the run from the time police show and he's going to fight david harbour in it in that timeline okay yeah that's
cool they can do whatever the hell they want right like they've created these multiple timelines
where you can just figure it out loki yeah i watched you dig it i did i i'm still
wanting more like i'm not satisfied on the tail end of any of these so far.
Maybe I've just been so critical of it, of these things.
And you know what I did with Wanda.
I hated it when I started.
And then all of a sudden there was a big payoff.
But then now I want more.
I feel like it's unfinished.
I always want more, but I feel like it's unfinished. And always want more but i feel like it's unfinished
and i kind of get that like we just go into the next step to the next step so unless they throw
out some sort of end game-ish thing where everybody from the three four or five different you know
spinoffs kind of gets you there i'm gonna i'm gonna kill somebody next one spider-man though
we might have a couple different spider-men come in, and who knows? It's awesome. It would be amazing.
All right, Large, thank you for joining us.
We'll have to get you back in soon.
I'm sorry if I spoke too much.
I get excited about this shit.
Brother, we're on a podcast.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
That's what we brought you in for.
Clem, as always, thank you for joining us in the basement.
We will be back next week for another unconfirmed, untitled mystery episode.
We don't know what we're coming at you with next week,
but it's going to be a fun episode, and we'll see you then.